Ben Shapiro on How Conservatives Should Address Big Tech Censorship — Transcript

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1. 0:00so we've been talking throughout the
2. 0:01show about the role the media has played
3. 0:03the role social media has played
4. 0:04and kind of the shifting view of many on
5. 0:06the right about what should be done
6. 0:08specifically with social media
7. 0:10what do you make of this moving forward
8. 0:11if the republicans don't prevail tonight
9. 0:13and if they're staring at four more
10. 0:15years of a joe biden presidency or four
11. 0:16new years of joe biden presidency
12. 0:18should there be calls for serious reform
13. 0:20on social media what should those look
14. 0:21like and what do you think would be the
15. 0:23conservative position
16. 0:24with where things stand now so the
17. 0:26proposal that's been put forward by
18. 0:27marcia blackburn which is to look at
19. 0:28section 230 and section 230
20. 0:30uh contrary to popular opinions is not
21. 0:32actually distinguished between publisher
22. 0:33and platform
23. 0:34it simply says that any open thread has
24. 0:36to be treated as though the person who
25. 0:38is in charge of the open thread is not
26. 0:39responsible for the content they're in
27. 0:41right so that we're not responsible at
28. 0:42daily wire for the comments section
29. 0:44under section 230 even if we curate the
30. 0:46comment section section 230
31. 0:48essentially says that you can mil you
32. 0:51can moderate comments for purposes of
33. 0:52obscenity
34. 0:53um or you can do it for purposes of
35. 0:55harassment and then there's a catch-all
36. 0:57phrase or anything otherwise
37. 0:58objectionable now what marsha blackburn
38. 1:00has promoted
39. 1:01and josh haley has promoted is getting
40. 1:03rid of the otherwise objectionable
41. 1:05standard and basically saying you can
42. 1:06moderate for
43. 1:07pornography you can moderate for
44. 1:09harassment you can moderate
45. 1:10for a wide variety of things but you
46. 1:12cannot moderate for simple political
47. 1:14disagreement
48. 1:15without taking on the burdens of any
49. 1:17other publisher right because now your
50. 1:19editing
51. 1:19is tantamount to me editing the daily
52. 1:21wire i'm approving what is going up and
53. 1:22down
54. 1:23uh on the daily wire if i were the
55. 1:24active editor i'm adorama right so right
56. 1:26now it's uh john bickley obviously is
57. 1:28editor-in-chief
58. 1:28so that's that's a change that i think
59. 1:30is is worth considering
60. 1:32and frankly i think that uh many of the
61. 1:34folks in social media would not be
62. 1:35particularly unhappy at that at that
63. 1:37change that that sort of moderate change
64. 1:39that sort of mild change is not what
65. 1:41democrats are looking for
66. 1:42and this is what scares me is that if
67. 1:44democrats were to gain office they would
68. 1:45not be looking at it cut around cutting
69. 1:47around the edges
70. 1:48and making some sort of bipartisan deal
71. 1:50that basically frees up people to speak
72. 1:52more
73. 1:52democrats are looking to have people
74. 1:53speak less that entire facebook
75. 1:55social media hearing that we saw
76. 1:56facebook twitter and google
77. 1:58and youtube that that social media
78. 2:00hearing was plagued by republicans
79. 2:02saying we want to see more speech on
80. 2:04your platforms and democrats saying we
81. 2:05want to see far less speech on your
82. 2:07platforms
83. 2:07ed markey was chiding zuckerberg and
84. 2:09dorsey for allowing too much material
85. 2:11on their platforms you saw the same
86. 2:14thing from
87. 2:15the senator from delaware i believe so
88. 2:17you see you see this or chris murphy
89. 2:19um from from connecticut you see this
90. 2:20over and over from democrats
91. 2:22that they're actually pushing hard
92. 2:25against more free speech on these
93. 2:26platforms so if democrats take over the
94. 2:27white house and take over the senate
95. 2:29i think what you are very likely to see
96. 2:31is social media restricted with an
97. 2:33oversight board run by somebody like
98. 2:34elizabeth warren now that should scare
99. 2:35the living hell out of republicans it's
100. 2:36one of the reasons why i've been pretty
101. 2:37libertarian on this stuff
102. 2:39and if you are going to nibble around
103. 2:40the edges of section 230 you have to be
104. 2:42nibbling around the edges of 230 you
105. 2:43can't
106. 2:44turn the the social media sphere over to
107. 2:47the predations
108. 2:48of a government-run board which very
109. 2:49often will be staffed by democrats
110. 2:51well ben we really appreciate you being
111. 2:53here and we will be seeing you a little
112. 2:55later along with the rest of the daily
113. 2:56wire team thanks for making time thanks
114. 2:58so much