Ben Shapiro Explains Basic Biology to a College Student — Transcript
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- 0:00hey Ben I'm been waiting for a long time
- 0:02um I've kind of for this moment yeah
- 0:06well I've kind of pondered how to ask
- 0:07this but um how does your view of
- 0:09transgender issues work when STI
- 0:11scientific anti-realism as a concept
- 0:14exists you're going to have to explain
- 0:16that one all right so scientific
- 0:18anti-realism is the concept that when
- 0:20you see me you see you know my skin my
- 0:23hands everything about me but you do not
- 0:25see my cells you do not see my atoms you
- 0:28do not see the things that make up the
- 0:30things they are just physical so there
- 0:31is no really true way to prove other
- 0:33than by hitting me obviously um that I
- 0:36am right here if it is only us two
- 0:38talking um so therefore this would apply
- 0:41to um any gendering things including
- 0:44interex um which can have an XX or XY
- 0:47chromosome and have Androgen or um
- 0:49estrogen insensitivity um so uh so I
- 0:53just need you to narrow this down is the
- 0:54argument that things that that we don't
- 0:56understand the nature of things because
- 0:57we don't have microscopes and therefore
- 1:00we can't determine sex I I would like to
- 1:03narrow it down to
- 1:06um we cannot fully identify a gender of
- 1:09a person right when we see them so
- 1:12therefore um I believe that it is not
- 1:15within my own individual liberty to
- 1:17gender that person okay so okay so so
- 1:20here's my problem with that particular
- 1:21argument the answer is that in 99.8%
- 1:2499.9% of cases you absolutely can gender
- 1:26somebody based on looking at them like
- 1:28really if if you're going to use
- 1:30intersex people as an example of not
- 1:32being able to do that this does not
- 1:34obviate the biological duality of sex
- 1:36upon which all progeneration is based
- 1:38for all of human history and for all
- 1:39Maman species so interex people do not
- 1:42invalidate the concept of sex as a
- 1:44generality interex people are people who
- 1:46have a biological anomaly and by the way
- 1:49in most cases of interex those people
- 1:51still manifest as either a male or a
- 1:53female so the the the idea that interex
- 1:56exists does not invalidate the idea that
- 1:58there is a male and that there is a
- 1:59female or that in the the in nearly all
- 2:01cases I can tell the difference between
- 2:02a male and a female again I'm not saying
- 2:05by the way that if you can show me your
- 2:07chromosomal charts that you are actually
- 2:09not a male when you say that when I say
- 2:11that you're a male that I should stick
- 2:13with that biological objective standard
- 2:15like my my perception of you in other
- 2:17words is subject to my correct
- 2:20enunciation of an objective standard so
- 2:23the objective standard here's the here's
- 2:24the deal for all of human history there
- 2:26was an objective standard between male
- 2:27and female it was for the most for for
- 2:30nearly all of human history out of
- 2:32partial ignorance and partially because
- 2:33this is usually true it was out of
- 2:34genetic it was out of simply looking at
- 2:36people's genitals and assessing them
- 2:38based on their outward appearance right
- 2:39which is still true for nearly all human
- 2:41beings on planet Earth at all times
- 2:44okay is that you can't really describe
- 2:47someone without secondary sex
- 2:48characteristics and gender them into
- 2:50something well I mean you can based on
- 2:52primary sex characteristics if you can
- 2:53see their genitals doctors do this
- 2:55literally at Birth all the time right so
- 2:57this is so the so so but but but your
- 3:01point is correct if somebody was was
- 3:02male dressed as a female and I
- 3:04misgendered them and then they said oh
- 3:05look I'm male zip right then I would say
- 3:08correct then then correct I would say
- 3:12for all of human history you a male now
- 3:14the standard is chromosomal right it's
- 3:16the it's the srn Gene and all of this
- 3:18there is some objective standard in
- 3:20other words by which we can determine
- 3:21sex the problem I have with the
- 3:22transgender argument is that people are
- 3:24arguing that there is no objective
- 3:25standard that no objective standard
- 3:27exists by which I can determine sex and
- 3:28in fact sex is completely subjective I
- 3:30can determine my own gender based on no
- 3:33biology and in fact in in abeyance of
- 3:36biology I can have every single
- 3:38biological characteristic of a male and
- 3:40if I say I am female then I am female
- 3:42this is anti-scientific nonsense no yes
- 3:45Caitlyn Jenner had every biological
- 3:46characteristic of a male there is no
- 3:48evidence whatsoever that Caitlyn Jenner
- 3:49was a female because Caitlyn Jenner was
- 3:51an Olympic Athlete as a male with all of
- 3:54the chromosomes and all of the junk and
- 3:56all of it right that is it that is a
- 3:58biological male and then we are supposed
- 3:59to believe that Caitlyn Jenner is a
- 4:00female listen I'm happy to call Caitlyn
- 4:01Jenner Caitlyn because people can
- 4:03legally change their name if I were out
- 4:04to dinner with Caitlyn Jenner I wouldn't
- 4:06go out of my way to say Caitlyn Jenner
- 4:07is a he because why would I want to have
- 4:09a bad dinner with somebody but if I'm
- 4:11speaking in public with folks and I'm
- 4:13talking about the presence of sex
- 4:15there's not a biologist work their salt
- 4:17on planet Earth who would say that sex
- 4:19does not exist yeah I agree so if sex
- 4:22exists then what are the characteristics
- 4:23of Sex and the problem with biological
- 4:25anti-realism or scientific anti-realism
- 4:27as you're suggesting is that there is no
- 4:28actual standard of sex that it's
- 4:30completely
- 4:33malleable not it's okay we sorry do you
- 4:36have a quick response I don't want to
- 4:37cut you off um I'm not saying that sex
- 4:40is malleable I'm saying there is male
- 4:43and female biologically that is true yes
- 4:45right but I'm saying that gender is a
- 4:46spectrum I'm saying that there is at
- 4:48least male female and non-binary because
- 4:50of this strange and what what I'm saying
- 4:52is that there's a there's a there's a
- 4:53word game that goes on when people
- 4:55discuss gender because if we are talking
- 4:57about certain characteristics which we
- 4:58attribute to Mas or feminine if you want
- 5:00to say that there's a genetic male with
- 5:02feminine characteristics we're fine
- 5:04that's a male with feminine
- 5:05characteristics fine that's fine I mean
- 5:08okay so you're a man with feminine
- 5:10characteristics that's cool who cares
- 5:12okay but if but that doesn't make you a
- 5:14woman in other words if you are going
- 5:16what we are now doing is we're playing a
- 5:17semantic game where we say a male with
- 5:18feminine characteristics is a woman
- 5:20that's nonsense or a woman with male
- 5:22characteristics masculine
- 5:23characteristics is a man that's nonsense
- 5:25too and by the way it actually ends up
- 5:27misgendering a lot of people who are are
- 5:29just Butch women or or a feminite men
- 5:32yeah agree right so all of the so in
- 5:34other words by trying to separate out
- 5:35gender and sex completely and then by
- 5:38using terms like male and female or
- 5:39woman and man that are innately
- 5:42connected to sex what you are doing is
- 5:44deliberately not you what people are
- 5:45doing is deliberately confusing the
- 5:47issue such that you get idiocies like
- 5:49ilhan Omar writing to the powerlifting
- 5:51Association of the USA saying that a
- 5:54transgender woman who is a biological
- 5:55male should be able to compete against
- 5:57biological women because it is a myth
- 5:59that men can pick up heavier objects
- 6:00than women that is not a myth that's
- 6:02called
- 6:03science thank
- 6:08you
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