Ben Shapiro DESTROYS Transgenderism And Pro-Abortion Arguments — Transcript

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1. 0:00so how do you say that some people don't
2. 0:02have privilege when you basically just
3. 0:04said that trans people aren't valid
4. 0:06they're not a thing they're just girls
5. 0:07pretending to be boys or boys pretending
6. 0:09to be girls okay someone's excited okay
7. 0:13biological but gender is a completely
8. 0:15different thing no gender is not
9. 0:16disconnected from sex so it's not
10. 0:18completely disconnected but it's still a
11. 0:19cultural thing it's still from society
12. 0:22it's no it is not in the mind okay
13. 0:24you're not a man if you think you're a
14. 0:26man and I didn't say pretending or if I
15. 0:28did I shouldn't have said pretending let
16. 0:29me amend playing okay I said a boy who
17. 0:31thinks he's a girl that's the usual
18. 0:33phraseology I use not playing I usually
19. 0:35say a boy who thinks he's a girl or a
20. 0:36girl who thinks he's a boy which is
21. 0:37technically what we're talking about
22. 0:38here as far as the actual psychological
23. 0:41issues at play it used to be called
24. 0:43gender dysphoria or gender identity
25. 0:45disorder now they call it gender
26. 0:46dysphoria the idea that that sex or
27. 0:50gender are malleable is not true okay
28. 0:54and I'm not denying your Humanity if
29. 0:56you're a transgender person I am saying
30. 0:58that you are not the sex to which you
31. 1:00claim to be you're still a human being
32. 1:02and you're a human being with an issue
33. 1:04that I'm you know I wish you godspeed in
34. 1:06in dealing with in whatever way you see
35. 1:08fit but if you are going to dictate to
36. 1:09me that I'm supposed to pretend I'm
37. 1:11supposed to pretend that men are women
38. 1:13and women are men no my answer is no I'm
39. 1:16not going to I'm not going to modify
40. 1:18basic biology because it threatens your
41. 1:20subjective sense of what you
42. 1:23are okay but you're still saying these
43. 1:25kids should like not be accepted because
44. 1:26they don't really fit in either place
45. 1:28they can't just like I'm saying that the
46. 1:29the Boy Scouts have a standard you must
47. 1:31be a biological boy to be a Boy Scout
48. 1:33you have to be a boy to be a Boy
49. 1:35Scout in the name boy
50. 1:41scouts because because it because this
51. 1:43is because this is a a
52. 1:46very something because for all of human
53. 1:49history boy meant boy and girl meant
54. 1:50girl boy did not mean girl like
55. 1:54people and if I call you a moose are you
56. 1:56suddenly a moose okay if I redefine our
57. 1:58terms
58. 2:00no it's a yes that's right men and women
59. 2:01are a completely different thing this is
60. 2:03true have you ever met a man or a woman
61. 2:05they're completely different completely
62. 2:06different thing you say you're a cat
63. 2:07it's not a thing it's genders it's not
64. 2:10saying why why is that I don't
65. 2:12understand why okay let me ask you this
66. 2:13how okay I won't ask you how old I will
67. 2:15ask you how old you are okay because
68. 2:16you're young enough that it's probably
69. 2:17not insulting to ask you so I'm 22 so
70. 2:20I'm probably 9 right no why aren't you
71. 2:2460 why aren't you 60
72. 2:30and
73. 2:31what why can't you identify a 60 why
74. 2:34what what is the problem with you
75. 2:36identifying a 60 the same as gender you
76. 2:38can't just you're right age is
77. 2:40significantly less important than
78. 2:42gender you can't magically change your
79. 2:45gender you can't magically change your
80. 2:47sex you can't magically change your age
81. 2:50you can still legally change it people
82. 2:51recognize you can't legally change your
83. 2:53age by the way obviously you can change
84. 2:55your name you can change your sex you
85. 2:56can change your identity just because
86. 2:58you can do things legally doesn't mean
87. 2:59that they are correct biologically could
88. 3:01do lots of things in the past that were
89. 3:02incorrect biologically and correct
90. 3:04legally for a long period of time in the
91. 3:05United States sterilization of the
92. 3:07mentally ill took place that didn't make
93. 3:09it okay Skinner versus Oklahoma Justice
94. 3:11Oliver Wendel Holmes wrote the decision
95. 3:13great I don't
96. 3:16understand these children that are it's
97. 3:19not a matter of open-minded and
98. 3:20accepting I want them to get treatment
99. 3:21that they see fit but that's not
100. 3:23involving me the the idea behind the the
101. 3:25transgender movement as a civil rights
102. 3:26movement is the idea that all of their
103. 3:28problems would just go away if if I
104. 3:30would pretend that they were the sex to
105. 3:31which they
106. 3:33claim to which they claim membership
107. 3:35that's nonsense the transgender suicide
108. 3:38rate is 40% it is 40% and according to
109. 3:41the according to the Anderson School at
110. 3:43UCLA it makes no difference there's a
111. 3:45study that came out last year it makes
112. 3:47no difference virtually no difference
113. 3:49statistically speaking as to whether
114. 3:50people recognize you as a transgender
115. 3:52person or not which suggests there's a
116. 3:54very high comorbidity between
117. 3:56transgenderism whatever that mental
118. 3:58state may be and suicidality that has
119. 4:00nothing to do with how Society treat you
120. 4:02think it could be because of their
121. 4:03bullied at school no I don't think that
122. 4:05I do not think that the discrepancy I do
123. 4:07not think the discrepancy first of all
124. 4:08I'm against bullying of any sort okay
125. 4:10the idea that that somebody would beat
126. 4:11somebody up is terrible okay as somebody
127. 4:13who's viciously bullied in high school
128. 4:15I'm not a fan of bullying but the idea
129. 4:17that the the normal suicide rate across
130. 4:19the United States is 4% the suicide rate
131. 4:21in the transgender Community is 40% the
132. 4:23idea that 36% more transgender people
133. 4:26are committing suicide because people
134. 4:28are mean to them is ridiculous skilless
135. 4:30it's not true and it's not backed by any
136. 4:32science that anyone can site it is pure
137. 4:34conjecture in fact it's not even true
138. 4:36that bullying causes suicide according
139. 4:38to a lot of studies the the for example
140. 4:41in the black community where the idea is
141. 4:43supposedly that America is a racist
142. 4:45Society blacks are bullied a lot okay in
143. 4:46the black community black community has
144. 4:47significantly lower suicide rates than
145. 4:49in the white
146. 4:50community in fact in third world
147. 4:52countries the suicide rate is
148. 4:53significantly lower than in First World
149. 4:55countries suicide actually seems to be a
150. 4:57privilege of the upper classes if you
151. 4:58actually look at it from a financial
152. 5:00perspective so the idea that suicidality
153. 5:02is directly a result of people like me
154. 5:05saying no men are not women and women
155. 5:07are not men it's it's it's it's not true
156. 5:10it's also so you think it doesn't impact
157. 5:11their identity at all or their
158. 5:13depression or how they feel about
159. 5:14themselves I think the idea that you're
160. 5:15going to sacrifice the entire society's
161. 5:17proper definition of sex because you
162. 5:19think that there is a a in in legal
163. 5:21terms somebody with an eggshell skull
164. 5:23meaning that somebody who has a
165. 5:24pre-existing condition that makes them
166. 5:26more susceptible to criticism that that
167. 5:28is not a way to run Society you can't
168. 5:31sacrifice truth because some people are
169. 5:33going to actually suffer because of the
170. 5:34truth plus there's no evidence
171. 5:36whatsoever that the suicide rate would
172. 5:38go down in the transgender Community any
173. 5:39Market way if people just started
174. 5:41pretending that men were women and women
175. 5:42were men we're trying that experiment
176. 5:44now we'll find out whether it works so
177. 5:46far no evidence have you talked to a
178. 5:47group of FR people at all and soad there
179. 5:49a group of like white people I'm more
180. 5:51than happy to talk to a group of any
181. 5:53people who will have me but usually they
182. 5:54protest
183. 5:57me okay last question um about your
184. 6:00planned parenthood thing um so why do
185. 6:03you think it's not about controlling
186. 6:04women's bodies and just about the
187. 6:05separate life like after the baby is
188. 6:07born how come when people don't care
189. 6:09about them they don't care where they
190. 6:10end up in foster care they don't care
191. 6:12about the mother being poor okay I do
192. 6:13care about the mother being poor I do
193. 6:15care about foster care okay why don't
194. 6:16you advocate for that though parthood is
195. 6:18supposed to prevent abortions because I
196. 6:21well Planned Parenthood doesn't prevent
197. 6:22abortions they perform hundreds of
198. 6:23thousands of abortions a year they
199. 6:25perform 300,000 abortions a year they're
200. 6:27leading abortion bill in the United
201. 6:28States for that V that they perform
202. 6:30300,000 abortions a year from Planned
203. 6:33Parenthood that's my evidence they don't
204. 6:36dispute that no one disputes that birth
205. 6:37control and I'm not anti-b birth control
206. 6:41I know birth control is extraordinarily
207. 6:43cheap that provides affordable birth
208. 6:45control which would okay they're not the
209. 6:46only people in America who provide
210. 6:47affordable birth control you can go get
211. 6:49a pack of condoms down at the local CVS
212. 6:50for 12
213. 6:52bucks people need medication too yes and
214. 6:55it's true that most forms of birth
215. 6:57control are also extraordinarily cheap
216. 6:58on an annualized basis unless you have a
217. 7:00severe problem V most birth control is
218. 7:03very cheap and readily available and I'm
219. 7:05not against people going and getting
220. 7:07that from Planned Parenthood as you may
221. 7:08have noticed I'm mostly against abortion
222. 7:10if you want to go to plann Parenthood
223. 7:11and get a contraceptive go for it I
224. 7:14don't care I do care when you start
225. 7:15killing babies this is a problem for me
226. 7:18but what about in rape and incest
227. 7:20situations okay so this is okay so
228. 7:22here's the question I mean this is a
229. 7:23long conversation and I'm enjoying it
230. 7:25actually which is why I'm allowing you
231. 7:26to stay but but it's but the the
232. 7:29question of of rape and incest first of
233. 7:30all important to note rape and incest
234. 7:32are not only a vast minority of of
235. 7:34abortion cases they're an
236. 7:36extraordinarily low percentage of
237. 7:37abortion cases so if we can first
238. 7:39stipulate that all the other abortions
239. 7:41are bad then we can talk about that
240. 7:43other one can we do that are all the
241. 7:44other abortions bad or those ones okay
242. 7:46and you're just using this as an excuse
243. 7:47to make the other ones okay they're all
244. 7:49okay ah good someone who's honest
245. 7:52so who's the honest fellow who's who's
246. 7:56okay yay honest people good I like the
247. 7:57honesty okay so all abortions are okay
248. 8:00so does the so the so oh a sign that I
249. 8:03can't read because it has lots of words
250. 8:04on it okay
251. 8:07so I have one question for you and one
252. 8:09question only on abortion does the
253. 8:11vagina the the vaginal Canal magically
254. 8:13confer
255. 8:15personhood answer does the vagina
256. 8:18magically confer personhood yeah raised
257. 8:20hands are okay you sir no the first
258. 8:22breath does the first breath confers
259. 8:24personhood okay so if the baby is in the
260. 8:27womb and is exactly the same size and
261. 8:29has not yet breathed and you take a
262. 8:31knife and you stab the baby in the head
263. 8:33a fully formed 9-month old baby it is
264. 8:35not a human the only thing that makes it
265. 8:36a human is when it takes a breath it has
266. 8:39to independently breathe I mean I'm
267. 8:40going to be honest I'm going to stick to
268. 8:42it yeah because I'm also Pro capital
269. 8:44punishment and pro selective suicide so
270. 8:47I'm going to stick with it selective
271. 8:49suicide I assume you I assume you mean
272. 8:51elective suicide I mean
273. 8:53elective yes I'm not going to make
274. 8:56someone commit suicide okay that's good
275. 8:58cuz that wouldn't be suicide that be
276. 8:59homicide so so that that by the way I'm
277. 9:04for capital punishment too because
278. 9:05people who kill people should be killed
279. 9:07but babies who have not killed people
280. 9:08should not this is my basic position on
281. 9:10abortion so let me just so but I'll get
282. 9:12your answer because you're the one who
283. 9:13asked the question are you willing to
284. 9:15stipulate that all the other abortions
285. 9:16are bad just rape and incest bother you
286. 9:20I mean no I believe a woman should have
287. 9:21the right to God so it's an excuse right
288. 9:23so it's an excuse that we can say that
289. 9:24so that we can we can take the marginal
290. 9:26case and then say that the marginal case
291. 9:27applies to all cases okay that's that's
292. 9:30again faulty thinking but if you want me
293. 9:32to answer specifically on rape and
294. 9:33incest here is my basic answer rapists
295. 9:36should be castrated or killed you
296. 9:37shouldn't kill babies end of story but
297. 9:39are they ever castrated and killed most
298. 9:41rapists don't even get convicted I agree
299. 9:43and that's usually left side of the
300. 9:44aisle because left side wants to let
301. 9:46them out after 5 years in prison I want
302. 9:48them castrated or killed I'm telling you
303. 9:50what my belief is my belief is not
304. 9:52public policy at the moment but I think
305. 9:54would you agree with me on that one can
306. 9:55we at least get a little agreement to
307. 9:56finish this particular parlay okay you
308. 9:59should rapist be castrated or killed
309. 10:01well okay good yeah okay we agree thanks