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Ben Shapiro Debunks 5 Lies About Socialism — Transcript

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  1. 0:00Socialism keeps getting a rebrand decade
  2. 0:02after decade. It's the brand new
  3. 0:03socialism. The last time that wasn't the
  4. 0:05real socialism. This one is so much
  5. 0:07better. Why won't socialism just stay
  6. 0:10dead? Russia, China, Cuba, Venezuela,
  7. 0:12North Korea, and now, get ready, New
  8. 0:14York City. In 1848, Karl Marx and
  9. 0:17Friedrich Engels wrote the Communist
  10. 0:18Manifesto in a Parisian cafe over the
  11. 0:20span of 6 weeks. They, of course, were
  12. 0:22living high on the hog, you know, in
  13. 0:25non-communist countries. All of world
  14. 0:27history, they said, was a class
  15. 0:28struggle. The proletariat, those who'd
  16. 0:30be the workers, are exploited by the
  17. 0:31bourgeoisie, those who'd be the owners.
  18. 0:33So, Marx's solution was state ownership
  19. 0:35of the means of production. Marx
  20. 0:37believed that capitalism would
  21. 0:38inevitably devour itself, and that
  22. 0:40socialism would arise naturally. Now, it
  23. 0:44turns out that wasn't true at all, but
  24. 0:45that's never stopped the socialists. So,
  25. 0:48what is socialism and what is not? First
  26. 0:49of all, socialism is not wanting to help
  27. 0:51poor people. Socialism is, instead,
  28. 0:54giving the government complete control
  29. 0:56of the economy, and it is a failure
  30. 0:58everywhere it is tried. Number of deaths
  31. 1:00caused by socialism in the 20th century
  32. 1:02alone are staggering.
  33. 1:04Low estimates are 20 to 30 million
  34. 1:06people, that would be just based on
  35. 1:07direct political executions. Mid-range
  36. 1:10estimates would be 60 to 70 million
  37. 1:12people if you include man-made famines,
  38. 1:14and high estimates would include all
  39. 1:16excess mortality, civil wars, regime
  40. 1:18policy effects. That would be all the
  41. 1:20way up to 100 to 148 million people.
  42. 1:23China under Chairman Mao saw at least 55
  43. 1:25million dead in the Great Leap Forward.
  44. 1:27Then, of course, the Soviet Union saw
  45. 1:29under Stalin and Lenin 20 million dead
  46. 1:31in gulags, Holodomor famine in Ukraine,
  47. 1:34the Bolshevik Revolution. Cambodia's Pol
  48. 1:35Pot saw 2 million dead due to starvation
  49. 1:38and ethnic cleansing. North Korea saw 2
  50. 1:39million dead due to state-sponsored
  51. 1:41famine, labor camps, executions.
  52. 1:43Ethiopia saw 1.7 million dead in the Red
  53. 1:45Terror, forced resettlement, and famine.
  54. 1:47Eastern Europe saw 1 million dead in
  55. 1:49post-World War II purges, labor camps,
  56. 1:51and executions. Vietnam saw a million
  57. 1:53dead in reeducation camps and purges.
  58. 1:55And that's not to mention the tens or
  59. 1:57even hundreds of thousands dead who
  60. 1:58disappeared in Cuba or Venezuela. Let's
  61. 2:01talk about the objections that
  62. 2:03socialists will speak on behalf of
  63. 2:05socialism against capitalism. Objection
  64. 2:07number one, the rich don't pay their
  65. 2:08fair share. Utter horse manure.
  66. 2:10Leftists today say that our progressive
  67. 2:12income tax does not take into account
  68. 2:13the fact that billionaires barely have
  69. 2:15any salaried income whatsoever and that
  70. 2:17the wealthy borrow against their assets.
  71. 2:19They say that corporate tax rates should
  72. 2:21be hiked as well and they say the
  73. 2:22government debt problem isn't real, we
  74. 2:23can always just print more money. First
  75. 2:25of all, most US tax collections are on
  76. 2:27businesses according to the Tax
  77. 2:28Foundation. Out of $4.4 trillion
  78. 2:30collected by the government in 2017,
  79. 2:32only $308 billion was non-business tax
  80. 2:35collection or about 7%. As for the
  81. 2:38income tax, who pays it? Well, in 2018,
  82. 2:40the top 1% of earners paid $616 billion
  83. 2:44in federal income tax. That is 40% of
  84. 2:46all federal income taxes. The top 1% of
  85. 2:49taxpayers account for about 20% of the
  86. 2:51nation's income. The top 0.1% of
  87. 2:54taxpayers paid a greater share of the
  88. 2:56income tax burden than the bottom 75% of
  89. 2:59taxpayers combined. We already have a
  90. 3:01massively redistributive system, a
  91. 3:04massively progressive tax system. And by
  92. 3:07the way, none of this includes what
  93. 3:08people receive back in tax dollars,
  94. 3:10meaning, for example, the earned income
  95. 3:12tax credit, which disproportionately
  96. 3:14affects low-income households, many of
  97. 3:16whom don't pay tax in the first place.
  98. 3:17In fact, if you look at net taxes,
  99. 3:20meaning the amount you pay in taxes
  100. 3:22minus the services you collect from the
  101. 3:23government, people in the top quintiles
  102. 3:26pay all tax in the United States.
  103. 3:28In 2017, households in the bottom three
  104. 3:30quintiles collectively received more
  105. 3:32than $1 trillion in direct government
  106. 3:34benefits than they paid in all federal
  107. 3:36taxes that year.
  108. 3:37Households in the top 20% pay $1.7
  109. 3:40trillion more in taxes than they receive
  110. 3:42in direct government benefits. And when
  111. 3:44it comes to inequality itself, that too
  112. 3:46is a sort of myth. The rise of
  113. 3:48pass-through corporations means that
  114. 3:50more wealth is reflected on income tax
  115. 3:51forms than ever before, which makes it
  116. 3:53look like an explosion of personal
  117. 3:55income among the top 1%. But, there's an
  118. 3:58equivalent decline in business income
  119. 3:59and divided income with that rise.
  120. 4:01There's an inevitable problem when the
  121. 4:03government manages such a large budget.
  122. 4:04It doesn't manage it at all. Objection
  123. 4:06number two. It's impossible to pull
  124. 4:08yourself up by your bootstraps under
  125. 4:10capitalism. This is, of course, sheer
  126. 4:12nonsense. The myth is that hard work
  127. 4:14doesn't bridge the gap of someone
  128. 4:15starting with nothing versus another
  129. 4:17person starting with wealth. And that
  130. 4:19individual responsibility is a way for
  131. 4:22rich people to preach to support people,
  132. 4:24but it won't actually help poor people.
  133. 4:27Well, here is the thing. These
  134. 4:28structural barriers that the left says
  135. 4:30exist don't actually exist. A Pew study
  136. 4:33on the economic advancement of families
  137. 4:35compared to income of parents to that of
  138. 4:36their children 30 years later, inflation
  139. 4:38adjusted. It turns out 93% of children
  140. 4:41who grew up in the bottom quintile were
  141. 4:42better off than their parents. 86% of
  142. 4:45children from the middle 3/5 of the
  143. 4:47income quintiles grew up to live with
  144. 4:49higher income than their parents. 70% of
  145. 4:51children of parents in the top quintile
  146. 4:53of income were better off than their
  147. 4:54parents. Of the children who grew up in
  148. 4:56the middle quintiles of income, 39% rose
  149. 4:59to a higher quintile about 30 years
  150. 5:00later. 37% fell to a lower one. 62% of
  151. 5:03children from the top quintile fell to a
  152. 5:05lower quintile. By the same token, 63%
  153. 5:08of children who grew up in the bottom
  154. 5:10quintile rose to a higher one. Upward
  155. 5:13mobility. So, would you like to not be
  156. 5:15impoverished in the United States? It
  157. 5:16turns out virtually everyone who does
  158. 5:18these three things will not be
  159. 5:20permanently poor in the United States.
  160. 5:22Graduate high school, get married before
  161. 5:23you have kids, get a full-time job.
  162. 5:25Statistically speaking, you will not be
  163. 5:27permanently poor in the United States.
  164. 5:28Bottom line is,
  165. 5:29personal decision-making is still the
  166. 5:31number one factor in success.
  167. 5:33Proclaiming victimhood at the hands of a
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  213. 6:52Objection number three. Real Marxism and
  214. 6:54socialism, they've never been tried. So,
  215. 6:56number one, people say socialism has to
  216. 6:58be global to succeed. The Karl Marx
  217. 7:00wanted a global socialist system versus
  218. 7:02Stalin's socialism in just one country.
  219. 7:05Well, it turns out that this is just the
  220. 7:07no true Scotsman fallacy. Because it
  221. 7:09turns out socialism has been tried
  222. 7:11pretty much everywhere, and it's failed
  223. 7:12miserably over and over and over because
  224. 7:15the idea of Marxism is just wrong.
  225. 7:17Marxism is a utopian philosophy that
  226. 7:20basically suggests the perfectibility of
  227. 7:22mankind. That if you change the economic
  228. 7:23structures, greed will disappear and
  229. 7:25people will become better. They will
  230. 7:26transform. It is not true. The reality
  231. 7:29is the vast majority of countries that
  232. 7:32even socialists call socialist are not
  233. 7:34in fact socialist. Denmark is not
  234. 7:35socialist, and Norway is not socialist.
  235. 7:37These countries are highly capitalist
  236. 7:39economies with high taxes and welfare
  237. 7:41systems. They're mixed economies. Here
  238. 7:43for example is the Prime Minister of
  239. 7:45Denmark at the Harvard Kennedy School of
  240. 7:46Government in 2019 explaining this.
  241. 7:48>> I would like to make one thing clear.
  242. 7:52Uh Denmark is far from a socialist
  243. 7:55planned economy.
  244. 7:56Denmark is a market economy.
  245. 7:58The Nordic model
  246. 8:00is an expanded welfare state which
  247. 8:02provides a high level of security for
  248. 8:04its citizens.
  249. 8:06But it is also a successful market
  250. 8:09economy with much freedom to pursue your
  251. 8:12dreams and live your life as you wish.
  252. 8:15>> The 2026 Index of Economic Freedom from
  253. 8:17the Heritage Foundation shows that
  254. 8:18economic freedom advances and prosperity
  255. 8:20follows.
  256. 8:21The countries at the top of the list by
  257. 8:23the way might surprise you. One,
  258. 8:24Singapore. Two, Switzerland. Three,
  259. 8:26Ireland. Four, Australia. And five,
  260. 8:28Taiwan. Those Nordic countries, the
  261. 8:30northern European countries, Denmark,
  262. 8:31Norway, Sweden, Finland, Iceland, all
  263. 8:33top 20. US ranked number 22. How about
  264. 8:36the socialist countries? Well, China's
  265. 8:38154 and North Korea's 176. By the way,
  266. 8:41that freedom index is measured using
  267. 8:42four pillars. Rule of law, government
  268. 8:45size, regulatory efficiency, and open
  269. 8:46markets. Since the Trump administration
  270. 8:48changed a bunch of Biden policy, that
  271. 8:502026 index shows the United States
  272. 8:52moving up in the rankings. How about
  273. 8:53those big socialist systems in the
  274. 8:55United States? Well, pretty much all are
  275. 8:56subsidized by of course the market
  276. 8:58economy.
  277. 8:59Those systems are essentially draws on
  278. 9:02capitalism. They cannot exist separate
  279. 9:05from the supportive network of
  280. 9:07capitalism that generates all the
  281. 9:09revenue and all the services upon which
  282. 9:11they leech. Objection number four, we
  283. 9:13already have socialism here in America.
  284. 9:14Well, no. We actually have some
  285. 9:16socialized systems, kind of, sort of,
  286. 9:18like Medicare. Some people try to
  287. 9:20pretend that for example the police
  288. 9:22department is a socialized system. Nope,
  289. 9:23this is just called a public good.
  290. 9:25Public goods exist in every system.
  291. 9:27These would be non-rivalrous and
  292. 9:28non-excludable goods, meaning my use of
  293. 9:31the system does not burden your use of
  294. 9:32the system. So, a great example of this.
  295. 9:35We all pay into the military, the
  296. 9:36military defends all of us equivalently.
  297. 9:38Therefore, it is not a socialist system.
  298. 9:40It is called a public good. I could not
  299. 9:42pay for it myself. We all pay for it
  300. 9:43together and we all benefit from it.
  301. 9:45That is not the same as a socialized
  302. 9:47system like Medicare, for example, with
  303. 9:48an individual recipient of benefits.
  304. 9:51Objection number five, a just society
  305. 9:53should produce equal outcomes, not just
  306. 9:54equal opportunity. This is the big
  307. 9:56philosophical objection to capitalism.
  308. 9:58The idea here is that capitalism is
  309. 10:00fundamentally unfair and that we ought
  310. 10:02to correct all of the terrible
  311. 10:05injustices of living on this planet with
  312. 10:07the power of government. On a moral
  313. 10:09level, this is wrong. Inequality of
  314. 10:11outcome will always exist because humans
  315. 10:13are not the same. In fact, your level of
  316. 10:16wealth today is not the same as your
  317. 10:18level of wealth in 40 years. Does that
  318. 10:20mean that you are inferior now to the
  319. 10:23person you will be 40 years from now? Of
  320. 10:25course not. The fact is this, true
  321. 10:27justice is that equals are treated
  322. 10:29equally and unequals unequally, as
  323. 10:31Aristotle suggested. Thomas Sowell
  324. 10:33observed in his 1999 book, The Quest for
  325. 10:36Cosmic Justice, justice is a process,
  326. 10:37not an outcome. We're not God that we
  327. 10:39can simply say let there be equality or
  328. 10:41let there be justice. We must begin with
  329. 10:43a universe that we were born into and
  330. 10:45weigh the costs of making any specific
  331. 10:46change in it to achieve a specific end.
  332. 10:49Inequality is not inherently inequity
  333. 10:51and disparity is not inherently
  334. 10:53injustice. Also, from a utilitarian
  335. 10:55angle, this is just wrong. Socialism may
  336. 10:57create more equality, but only in
  337. 10:59poverty. Capitalism, meanwhile, may
  338. 11:01create more inequality, but mainly
  339. 11:03because everybody is richer. If I make a
  340. 11:05million dollars and Bill Gates makes 10
  341. 11:06million dollars, we have more inequality
  342. 11:08than if we both made zero dollars.
  343. 11:10Socialism thinks the latter is better.
  344. 11:12In 1820, 80 to 90% of the world lived in
  345. 11:15extreme poverty. By 2026, 10% of the
  346. 11:18world lives in extreme poverty. That is
  347. 11:20free markets, not socialism.
  348. 11:22Socialism, government ownership of the
  349. 11:24means of production, eliminates the
  350. 11:25mechanism by which producers know what
  351. 11:27to make and how much to make of it.
  352. 11:29Without markets, get shortages. This is
  353. 11:31why people die of starvation in
  354. 11:32socialist countries. Inequality under
  355. 11:34capitalism is a byproduct of the
  356. 11:36generation of wealth. Inequality under
  357. 11:37socialism is a byproduct of power
  358. 11:39consolidation. It's why Stalin owned a
  359. 11:41really nice dacha even presiding over a
  360. 11:43communist country.
  361. 11:45So, is there anything socialist get
  362. 11:47right? I mean, only that inequality
  363. 11:49exists and that poverty exists. But what
  364. 11:51socialist get wrong is the idea that
  365. 11:53poverty can be alleviated by focusing on
  366. 11:55rich people. The problem with poverty is
  367. 11:57not that there are rich people. The
  368. 11:58problem with poverty is that we need to
  369. 12:00help poor people get richer.
  370. 12:02Centralizing economic power in the state
  371. 12:04kills all the price signals you need to
  372. 12:06actually generate functioning markets.
  373. 12:08It destroys incentives. It destroys
  374. 12:09individual freedom. It hands a ton of
  375. 12:11power to whoever is in control of the
  376. 12:13state. Well, I'm sure there will be a
  377. 12:15thousand videos attempting to debunk
  378. 12:17what I'm saying here. So, have at it and
  379. 12:18tell me why I'm wrong.

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