Ben Shapiro Debunks 5 Lies About Socialism — Transcript
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- 0:00Socialism keeps getting a rebrand decade
- 0:02after decade. It's the brand new
- 0:03socialism. The last time that wasn't the
- 0:05real socialism. This one is so much
- 0:07better. Why won't socialism just stay
- 0:10dead? Russia, China, Cuba, Venezuela,
- 0:12North Korea, and now, get ready, New
- 0:14York City. In 1848, Karl Marx and
- 0:17Friedrich Engels wrote the Communist
- 0:18Manifesto in a Parisian cafe over the
- 0:20span of 6 weeks. They, of course, were
- 0:22living high on the hog, you know, in
- 0:25non-communist countries. All of world
- 0:27history, they said, was a class
- 0:28struggle. The proletariat, those who'd
- 0:30be the workers, are exploited by the
- 0:31bourgeoisie, those who'd be the owners.
- 0:33So, Marx's solution was state ownership
- 0:35of the means of production. Marx
- 0:37believed that capitalism would
- 0:38inevitably devour itself, and that
- 0:40socialism would arise naturally. Now, it
- 0:44turns out that wasn't true at all, but
- 0:45that's never stopped the socialists. So,
- 0:48what is socialism and what is not? First
- 0:49of all, socialism is not wanting to help
- 0:51poor people. Socialism is, instead,
- 0:54giving the government complete control
- 0:56of the economy, and it is a failure
- 0:58everywhere it is tried. Number of deaths
- 1:00caused by socialism in the 20th century
- 1:02alone are staggering.
- 1:04Low estimates are 20 to 30 million
- 1:06people, that would be just based on
- 1:07direct political executions. Mid-range
- 1:10estimates would be 60 to 70 million
- 1:12people if you include man-made famines,
- 1:14and high estimates would include all
- 1:16excess mortality, civil wars, regime
- 1:18policy effects. That would be all the
- 1:20way up to 100 to 148 million people.
- 1:23China under Chairman Mao saw at least 55
- 1:25million dead in the Great Leap Forward.
- 1:27Then, of course, the Soviet Union saw
- 1:29under Stalin and Lenin 20 million dead
- 1:31in gulags, Holodomor famine in Ukraine,
- 1:34the Bolshevik Revolution. Cambodia's Pol
- 1:35Pot saw 2 million dead due to starvation
- 1:38and ethnic cleansing. North Korea saw 2
- 1:39million dead due to state-sponsored
- 1:41famine, labor camps, executions.
- 1:43Ethiopia saw 1.7 million dead in the Red
- 1:45Terror, forced resettlement, and famine.
- 1:47Eastern Europe saw 1 million dead in
- 1:49post-World War II purges, labor camps,
- 1:51and executions. Vietnam saw a million
- 1:53dead in reeducation camps and purges.
- 1:55And that's not to mention the tens or
- 1:57even hundreds of thousands dead who
- 1:58disappeared in Cuba or Venezuela. Let's
- 2:01talk about the objections that
- 2:03socialists will speak on behalf of
- 2:05socialism against capitalism. Objection
- 2:07number one, the rich don't pay their
- 2:08fair share. Utter horse manure.
- 2:10Leftists today say that our progressive
- 2:12income tax does not take into account
- 2:13the fact that billionaires barely have
- 2:15any salaried income whatsoever and that
- 2:17the wealthy borrow against their assets.
- 2:19They say that corporate tax rates should
- 2:21be hiked as well and they say the
- 2:22government debt problem isn't real, we
- 2:23can always just print more money. First
- 2:25of all, most US tax collections are on
- 2:27businesses according to the Tax
- 2:28Foundation. Out of $4.4 trillion
- 2:30collected by the government in 2017,
- 2:32only $308 billion was non-business tax
- 2:35collection or about 7%. As for the
- 2:38income tax, who pays it? Well, in 2018,
- 2:40the top 1% of earners paid $616 billion
- 2:44in federal income tax. That is 40% of
- 2:46all federal income taxes. The top 1% of
- 2:49taxpayers account for about 20% of the
- 2:51nation's income. The top 0.1% of
- 2:54taxpayers paid a greater share of the
- 2:56income tax burden than the bottom 75% of
- 2:59taxpayers combined. We already have a
- 3:01massively redistributive system, a
- 3:04massively progressive tax system. And by
- 3:07the way, none of this includes what
- 3:08people receive back in tax dollars,
- 3:10meaning, for example, the earned income
- 3:12tax credit, which disproportionately
- 3:14affects low-income households, many of
- 3:16whom don't pay tax in the first place.
- 3:17In fact, if you look at net taxes,
- 3:20meaning the amount you pay in taxes
- 3:22minus the services you collect from the
- 3:23government, people in the top quintiles
- 3:26pay all tax in the United States.
- 3:28In 2017, households in the bottom three
- 3:30quintiles collectively received more
- 3:32than $1 trillion in direct government
- 3:34benefits than they paid in all federal
- 3:36taxes that year.
- 3:37Households in the top 20% pay $1.7
- 3:40trillion more in taxes than they receive
- 3:42in direct government benefits. And when
- 3:44it comes to inequality itself, that too
- 3:46is a sort of myth. The rise of
- 3:48pass-through corporations means that
- 3:50more wealth is reflected on income tax
- 3:51forms than ever before, which makes it
- 3:53look like an explosion of personal
- 3:55income among the top 1%. But, there's an
- 3:58equivalent decline in business income
- 3:59and divided income with that rise.
- 4:01There's an inevitable problem when the
- 4:03government manages such a large budget.
- 4:04It doesn't manage it at all. Objection
- 4:06number two. It's impossible to pull
- 4:08yourself up by your bootstraps under
- 4:10capitalism. This is, of course, sheer
- 4:12nonsense. The myth is that hard work
- 4:14doesn't bridge the gap of someone
- 4:15starting with nothing versus another
- 4:17person starting with wealth. And that
- 4:19individual responsibility is a way for
- 4:22rich people to preach to support people,
- 4:24but it won't actually help poor people.
- 4:27Well, here is the thing. These
- 4:28structural barriers that the left says
- 4:30exist don't actually exist. A Pew study
- 4:33on the economic advancement of families
- 4:35compared to income of parents to that of
- 4:36their children 30 years later, inflation
- 4:38adjusted. It turns out 93% of children
- 4:41who grew up in the bottom quintile were
- 4:42better off than their parents. 86% of
- 4:45children from the middle 3/5 of the
- 4:47income quintiles grew up to live with
- 4:49higher income than their parents. 70% of
- 4:51children of parents in the top quintile
- 4:53of income were better off than their
- 4:54parents. Of the children who grew up in
- 4:56the middle quintiles of income, 39% rose
- 4:59to a higher quintile about 30 years
- 5:00later. 37% fell to a lower one. 62% of
- 5:03children from the top quintile fell to a
- 5:05lower quintile. By the same token, 63%
- 5:08of children who grew up in the bottom
- 5:10quintile rose to a higher one. Upward
- 5:13mobility. So, would you like to not be
- 5:15impoverished in the United States? It
- 5:16turns out virtually everyone who does
- 5:18these three things will not be
- 5:20permanently poor in the United States.
- 5:22Graduate high school, get married before
- 5:23you have kids, get a full-time job.
- 5:25Statistically speaking, you will not be
- 5:27permanently poor in the United States.
- 5:28Bottom line is,
- 5:29personal decision-making is still the
- 5:31number one factor in success.
- 5:33Proclaiming victimhood at the hands of a
- 5:34system or broader system is unlikely to
- 5:36lead you to actual true achievement in
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- 6:52Objection number three. Real Marxism and
- 6:54socialism, they've never been tried. So,
- 6:56number one, people say socialism has to
- 6:58be global to succeed. The Karl Marx
- 7:00wanted a global socialist system versus
- 7:02Stalin's socialism in just one country.
- 7:05Well, it turns out that this is just the
- 7:07no true Scotsman fallacy. Because it
- 7:09turns out socialism has been tried
- 7:11pretty much everywhere, and it's failed
- 7:12miserably over and over and over because
- 7:15the idea of Marxism is just wrong.
- 7:17Marxism is a utopian philosophy that
- 7:20basically suggests the perfectibility of
- 7:22mankind. That if you change the economic
- 7:23structures, greed will disappear and
- 7:25people will become better. They will
- 7:26transform. It is not true. The reality
- 7:29is the vast majority of countries that
- 7:32even socialists call socialist are not
- 7:34in fact socialist. Denmark is not
- 7:35socialist, and Norway is not socialist.
- 7:37These countries are highly capitalist
- 7:39economies with high taxes and welfare
- 7:41systems. They're mixed economies. Here
- 7:43for example is the Prime Minister of
- 7:45Denmark at the Harvard Kennedy School of
- 7:46Government in 2019 explaining this.
- 7:48>> I would like to make one thing clear.
- 7:52Uh Denmark is far from a socialist
- 7:55planned economy.
- 7:56Denmark is a market economy.
- 7:58The Nordic model
- 8:00is an expanded welfare state which
- 8:02provides a high level of security for
- 8:04its citizens.
- 8:06But it is also a successful market
- 8:09economy with much freedom to pursue your
- 8:12dreams and live your life as you wish.
- 8:15>> The 2026 Index of Economic Freedom from
- 8:17the Heritage Foundation shows that
- 8:18economic freedom advances and prosperity
- 8:20follows.
- 8:21The countries at the top of the list by
- 8:23the way might surprise you. One,
- 8:24Singapore. Two, Switzerland. Three,
- 8:26Ireland. Four, Australia. And five,
- 8:28Taiwan. Those Nordic countries, the
- 8:30northern European countries, Denmark,
- 8:31Norway, Sweden, Finland, Iceland, all
- 8:33top 20. US ranked number 22. How about
- 8:36the socialist countries? Well, China's
- 8:38154 and North Korea's 176. By the way,
- 8:41that freedom index is measured using
- 8:42four pillars. Rule of law, government
- 8:45size, regulatory efficiency, and open
- 8:46markets. Since the Trump administration
- 8:48changed a bunch of Biden policy, that
- 8:502026 index shows the United States
- 8:52moving up in the rankings. How about
- 8:53those big socialist systems in the
- 8:55United States? Well, pretty much all are
- 8:56subsidized by of course the market
- 8:58economy.
- 8:59Those systems are essentially draws on
- 9:02capitalism. They cannot exist separate
- 9:05from the supportive network of
- 9:07capitalism that generates all the
- 9:09revenue and all the services upon which
- 9:11they leech. Objection number four, we
- 9:13already have socialism here in America.
- 9:14Well, no. We actually have some
- 9:16socialized systems, kind of, sort of,
- 9:18like Medicare. Some people try to
- 9:20pretend that for example the police
- 9:22department is a socialized system. Nope,
- 9:23this is just called a public good.
- 9:25Public goods exist in every system.
- 9:27These would be non-rivalrous and
- 9:28non-excludable goods, meaning my use of
- 9:31the system does not burden your use of
- 9:32the system. So, a great example of this.
- 9:35We all pay into the military, the
- 9:36military defends all of us equivalently.
- 9:38Therefore, it is not a socialist system.
- 9:40It is called a public good. I could not
- 9:42pay for it myself. We all pay for it
- 9:43together and we all benefit from it.
- 9:45That is not the same as a socialized
- 9:47system like Medicare, for example, with
- 9:48an individual recipient of benefits.
- 9:51Objection number five, a just society
- 9:53should produce equal outcomes, not just
- 9:54equal opportunity. This is the big
- 9:56philosophical objection to capitalism.
- 9:58The idea here is that capitalism is
- 10:00fundamentally unfair and that we ought
- 10:02to correct all of the terrible
- 10:05injustices of living on this planet with
- 10:07the power of government. On a moral
- 10:09level, this is wrong. Inequality of
- 10:11outcome will always exist because humans
- 10:13are not the same. In fact, your level of
- 10:16wealth today is not the same as your
- 10:18level of wealth in 40 years. Does that
- 10:20mean that you are inferior now to the
- 10:23person you will be 40 years from now? Of
- 10:25course not. The fact is this, true
- 10:27justice is that equals are treated
- 10:29equally and unequals unequally, as
- 10:31Aristotle suggested. Thomas Sowell
- 10:33observed in his 1999 book, The Quest for
- 10:36Cosmic Justice, justice is a process,
- 10:37not an outcome. We're not God that we
- 10:39can simply say let there be equality or
- 10:41let there be justice. We must begin with
- 10:43a universe that we were born into and
- 10:45weigh the costs of making any specific
- 10:46change in it to achieve a specific end.
- 10:49Inequality is not inherently inequity
- 10:51and disparity is not inherently
- 10:53injustice. Also, from a utilitarian
- 10:55angle, this is just wrong. Socialism may
- 10:57create more equality, but only in
- 10:59poverty. Capitalism, meanwhile, may
- 11:01create more inequality, but mainly
- 11:03because everybody is richer. If I make a
- 11:05million dollars and Bill Gates makes 10
- 11:06million dollars, we have more inequality
- 11:08than if we both made zero dollars.
- 11:10Socialism thinks the latter is better.
- 11:12In 1820, 80 to 90% of the world lived in
- 11:15extreme poverty. By 2026, 10% of the
- 11:18world lives in extreme poverty. That is
- 11:20free markets, not socialism.
- 11:22Socialism, government ownership of the
- 11:24means of production, eliminates the
- 11:25mechanism by which producers know what
- 11:27to make and how much to make of it.
- 11:29Without markets, get shortages. This is
- 11:31why people die of starvation in
- 11:32socialist countries. Inequality under
- 11:34capitalism is a byproduct of the
- 11:36generation of wealth. Inequality under
- 11:37socialism is a byproduct of power
- 11:39consolidation. It's why Stalin owned a
- 11:41really nice dacha even presiding over a
- 11:43communist country.
- 11:45So, is there anything socialist get
- 11:47right? I mean, only that inequality
- 11:49exists and that poverty exists. But what
- 11:51socialist get wrong is the idea that
- 11:53poverty can be alleviated by focusing on
- 11:55rich people. The problem with poverty is
- 11:57not that there are rich people. The
- 11:58problem with poverty is that we need to
- 12:00help poor people get richer.
- 12:02Centralizing economic power in the state
- 12:04kills all the price signals you need to
- 12:06actually generate functioning markets.
- 12:08It destroys incentives. It destroys
- 12:09individual freedom. It hands a ton of
- 12:11power to whoever is in control of the
- 12:13state. Well, I'm sure there will be a
- 12:15thousand videos attempting to debunk
- 12:17what I'm saying here. So, have at it and
- 12:18tell me why I'm wrong.
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