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  28. 2:11bright My heart
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  76. 6:20>> SL. I am
  77. 6:25not
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  79. 6:31Foreign
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  81. 6:38speech. Foreign speech. Foreign speech.
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  84. 6:53>> [music]
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  86. 6:59>> Krishna.
  87. 7:03God
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  91. 7:24glory
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  93. 7:38>> and the river. [music]
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  96. 7:58Holy God
  97. 8:01she [singing]
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  99. 8:11might [music]
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  101. 9:03Krishna. So thank you so much everyone
  102. 9:05for coming
  103. 9:07this morning. We're reading from Shrimat
  104. 9:09Bhagwatam.
  105. 9:11And before reading from Shrimat
  106. 9:12Bhagatam, it may just be good to take
  107. 9:15some moments to reflect on why Shilap
  108. 9:18Praad brought the Shrimat Bhagwatam to
  109. 9:22us.
  110. 9:24When Shilap Praad was leaving India, one
  111. 9:27person said to him, "Oh, Swami G, I
  112. 9:29heard you're going to America."
  113. 9:33He said, "No, no, the Bhagwatam is going
  114. 9:36to America. I'm simply holding it. So
  115. 9:40it's very interesting that Shilapraad he
  116. 9:43wanted to bring Shrimat Bhagwatam to the
  117. 9:45west.
  118. 9:47Someone asked him why bring Shrimat
  119. 9:49Bhagwatam it's a little complicated.
  120. 9:52It's a little difficult to understand.
  121. 9:54Maybe you can bring something a little
  122. 9:56more easier for people to digest.
  123. 10:00But no, Shilap Praad specifically wanted
  124. 10:03to bring Shrimmed Bhagwatam.
  125. 10:07In fact, he didn't want to leave for
  126. 10:08America until he had completed the
  127. 10:11translation of the first kanto of the
  128. 10:13Bhagwatam.
  129. 10:15So it's very important for us to
  130. 10:18understand why is the Shrimat Bhagwatam
  131. 10:20such a special literature.
  132. 10:25Now the Bhagwatam itself declares
  133. 10:43If you want to know what is the the
  134. 10:46essence of
  135. 10:48all
  136. 10:52it can be contained and understood and
  137. 10:55grasped by reading Bhagwatamita
  138. 11:00one once once one is tasted
  139. 11:04Bhagwatamatra
  140. 11:08Their attraction will never go in any
  141. 11:12other place. In other words, Shrimat
  142. 11:14Bhagwatam contains the essence and it
  143. 11:17fully satisfies the heart such that if
  144. 11:20one actually understands how to relish
  145. 11:23Shrimat Bhagwatam then uh they will not
  146. 11:26look in any other place because they
  147. 11:29will be fully content.
  148. 11:32[snorts]
  149. 11:33Now Shrimat Bhagwatam
  150. 11:35uh Jiva Gow Swami who is the one who
  151. 11:39systemized all the philosophy of Sri
  152. 11:42Chaitananya Maha Prabu. He is one of the
  153. 11:45most prolific authors in the history of
  154. 11:49the universe.
  155. 11:52In fact it said there's only one
  156. 11:54personality in the universe
  157. 11:57who wrote more verses than Ja Gowami.
  158. 12:01Want to have a guess?
  159. 12:05That's pretty amazing. The only
  160. 12:08personality in the history of the
  161. 12:10universe who wrote more verses than Jiva
  162. 12:14Gow Swami is Vyasadev himself. The
  163. 12:17compiler of the Vic literature'ses. So
  164. 12:20Jivow Swami was a prolific author. It
  165. 12:22said that he wrote over 400,000 verses.
  166. 12:28Just think about that for a second.
  167. 12:29reading 18,000 verses of the Bhagwat and
  168. 12:33reading it in itself is a task.
  169. 12:38Now think about writing 400,000 verses.
  170. 12:43That's what Jiva Gowami did. It's okay.
  171. 12:46That's what Jiva Gow Swami did. And what
  172. 12:48Jiva Goswami does is in a book called
  173. 12:52Sundarbas. Sunda literally means
  174. 12:58like many of you I think in Hindi or
  175. 13:00Gujarati sand means
  176. 13:04to weave together no weaving
  177. 13:07like jar sand isn't it he was put
  178. 13:11together by the demon jara [snorts] so
  179. 13:14sarba literally means to weave
  180. 13:17so jivow swami writes a book uh or
  181. 13:21multiple books the sarbas And what they
  182. 13:24do is basically they weave together all
  183. 13:27the verses the most important
  184. 13:29conclusions and sedanta contained within
  185. 13:32vic literature'ses and jivosami there
  186. 13:36presents the essence. Um and in the very
  187. 13:40very first book of the sundharbas
  188. 13:43called tma sandba what jivow swami does
  189. 13:46is he establishes why shrimat bhagwatam
  190. 13:50is the highest book in creation.
  191. 13:54So it's useful to understand what jiva
  192. 13:57gow swami how he establishes shrimmed
  193. 13:59bhagatam as the ultimate book because
  194. 14:03this can also be very very useful in
  195. 14:05your preaching.
  196. 14:07So jiva go swami even in modernday
  197. 14:10philosophy they say there's four strands
  198. 14:13of philosophy and perhaps the most
  199. 14:16important strand of philosophy is known
  200. 14:18as epistemology. Have you heard of this?
  201. 14:22Epistemology means how do you know what
  202. 14:26you know?
  203. 14:28In other words, even before thinking of
  204. 14:31what the knowledge is, first you have to
  205. 14:34establish how do you find that
  206. 14:36knowledge.
  207. 14:38This is the first step to being becoming
  208. 14:40knowledgeable. First you have to
  209. 14:42understand how do you find knowledge. So
  210. 14:46what Jiva Goswami does in Tatva Dharba
  211. 14:49is he explains how you can discover
  212. 14:53data. Data means
  213. 14:56>> truth
  214. 14:58but duta means a very special kind of
  215. 15:01truth.
  216. 15:02Duta means a truth which stands true in
  217. 15:06all times, places and circumstances.
  218. 15:11Duta can never change. Duta can never be
  219. 15:15proved to be wrong. Duta never needs to
  220. 15:18be upgraded or refined. Duta stands true
  221. 15:23in all times, places and circumstances.
  222. 15:27So in Tatva Sandara, Jiva Gowami asked
  223. 15:30the question, how do you discover what
  224. 15:33is tutba? What is true?
  225. 15:36So his strategy is very very
  226. 15:38interesting. The first point he makes is
  227. 15:41this. He says there are three ways broad
  228. 15:44ways of understanding something in this
  229. 15:47world. Number one prataka
  230. 15:57>> slip.
  231. 16:05Okay.
  232. 16:10So the first way to understand something
  233. 16:13is pratyaka. You understand it by your
  234. 16:16direct sense perception.
  235. 16:19We have eyes, we have ears, we have um a
  236. 16:23nose, we have different knowledge
  237. 16:25acquiring senses. So therefore the first
  238. 16:29step or the first way to understand
  239. 16:31something is through your own senses.
  240. 16:35And then Jiva Gow Swami says another way
  241. 16:37to understand something is through
  242. 16:40anuman your logic your mind. If a equals
  243. 16:44b and b equals c then through our mind
  244. 16:48even though we may not have seen it we
  245. 16:50can conclude a equals c because that
  246. 16:54logically makes sense. So he says anumu
  247. 16:57man means the mind and anu means to
  248. 17:00follow. So the word for logic in
  249. 17:03Sanskrit is literally anuman to follow
  250. 17:06the mind.
  251. 17:09And then he says the third way to
  252. 17:10understand something is shabda.
  253. 17:13You understand it by hearing from
  254. 17:16someone who has more knowledge than
  255. 17:18yourself.
  256. 17:20So he said broadly speaking there are
  257. 17:22these three ways of understanding
  258. 17:24reality. And what he does through a
  259. 17:27series of arguments is he makes the
  260. 17:30point that if you try to understand
  261. 17:32reality through pratyaka and anuman
  262. 17:37ultimately you will not come to the
  263. 17:39highest conclusion. Why? Because the
  264. 17:42basic point is that your senses and your
  265. 17:45mind are limited.
  266. 17:48Right now, we can't even see what's
  267. 17:50going on beyond this wall
  268. 17:53because our senses are limited. And our
  269. 17:56mind is also limited because our mind
  270. 18:01and everything our mind uses to
  271. 18:03logically come up with something is
  272. 18:05based on what our senses discovered in
  273. 18:08the past.
  274. 18:10And so he says if you really want to
  275. 18:12understand something in the deepest way
  276. 18:15you have to hear it from someone
  277. 18:19who has a higher perception.
  278. 18:22And then the second point he makes is
  279. 18:24that okay if we're saying that the way
  280. 18:26you understand knowledge is through
  281. 18:28shabda
  282. 18:30then who should you hear from?
  283. 18:33And he said the next problem or the next
  284. 18:35uh thing that you have to overcome is
  285. 18:38you have to find a spiritual source from
  286. 18:41which to hear. Because if you hear from
  287. 18:44another material source,
  288. 18:47then even though you're not using your
  289. 18:50mind and senses, you're using the mind
  290. 18:52and senses of another limited person.
  291. 18:56Every single human being, he says, has
  292. 18:58four defects.
  293. 19:01Imperfect senses, illusion, cheating,
  294. 19:05and mistakes.
  295. 19:07And so he says the second point, first
  296. 19:10point you have to hear from someone
  297. 19:12else. Second point, you should hear from
  298. 19:15an authority or a source which is a
  299. 19:21means nonhuman,
  300. 19:24non-limited, a spiritual authority.
  301. 19:30Then the third point he makes is okay,
  302. 19:32we have to hear point number one. Point
  303. 19:36number two, we have to hear from a
  304. 19:38spiritual source. But now there are so
  305. 19:41many spiritual bodies of knowledge
  306. 19:43around the world, so many religions.
  307. 19:46So how do you choose which religion?
  308. 19:50So the Vic teachers explain that every
  309. 19:53religion can give you some spiritual
  310. 19:56elevation but all religions are not the
  311. 19:59same. All spiritual sources of knowledge
  312. 20:02are not the same. There are certain
  313. 20:05objective measures which can tell you
  314. 20:08which is the most advanced theology in
  315. 20:11the world.
  316. 20:13I'll give you a few of the points. How
  317. 20:15do you know if someone asks you how do
  318. 20:17you know which religion is the highest?
  319. 20:20There has to be certain objective
  320. 20:22measures. So the first objective measure
  321. 20:25is detail of philosophy.
  322. 20:30How much detail is there in this
  323. 20:32theology that can answer all of the
  324. 20:35questions that anyone could conceivably
  325. 20:38come up with? The most detailed theology
  326. 20:42is the most advanced theology.
  327. 20:45Another one, intimacy.
  328. 20:48Which theology explains God in the most
  329. 20:52intimate and in the most confidential
  330. 20:55way? That theology must be the most
  331. 20:59advanced theology.
  332. 21:01Number three, which theology creates the
  333. 21:05most transformation in the practitioner?
  334. 21:09The theology which actually transforms
  335. 21:12the heart of practitioners in a profound
  336. 21:15way, that theology must be the highest
  337. 21:17theology.
  338. 21:19Number four, accessibility.
  339. 21:22Which theology can be practiced by
  340. 21:25anyone from any uh level of
  341. 21:28consciousness?
  342. 21:29That theology must be the most advanced
  343. 21:32because the most advanced theology
  344. 21:35allows for anyone and everyone to
  345. 21:38participate.
  346. 21:40Number five, the most advanced theology
  347. 21:43in the world must be the most beautiful
  348. 21:46theology. It must have the best poetry.
  349. 21:49It must have the best descriptions. It
  350. 21:51must have the best artistic and cultural
  351. 21:54expression.
  352. 21:57So now if you look at all the religions
  353. 22:00in the world and on these five factors
  354. 22:05you begin to mark each theology
  355. 22:09on objective measure on objective
  356. 22:13analysis
  357. 22:15you will find that there's no theology
  358. 22:18in the world which is more advanced than
  359. 22:20the Vic theology because on every single
  360. 22:24one of these points
  361. 22:26No theology can trump or be higher than
  362. 22:30the vic revelation.
  363. 22:33So therefore jiva go swami says third
  364. 22:36point yes you have to go to a spiritual
  365. 22:39source and there are many sources but
  366. 22:41the source you should go to is the vas
  367. 22:45because there cannot be more advanced
  368. 22:48revelation than that.
  369. 22:50But then the fourth point he makes is
  370. 22:52that but there's so many books in the
  371. 22:54vades.
  372. 22:56So which book shall I go to because so
  373. 22:59many books are there. So he says yes
  374. 23:02there are the four vades there are
  375. 23:04brahmanas there areas there are
  376. 23:06opanishads there are so many auxiliary
  377. 23:10literatures.
  378. 23:12So he analyzes all the different books
  379. 23:15in the vadas and he says there are a
  380. 23:19certain set of books in the vades that
  381. 23:21if you go to these books then you will
  382. 23:25get the ultimate conclusion of
  383. 23:27everything.
  384. 23:29And through a variety of scriptural
  385. 23:31references he establishes that if you
  386. 23:34want to understand the essence of the
  387. 23:36vades then you have to go to the
  388. 23:40piranhas.
  389. 23:42He says puranas is purana is connected
  390. 23:45to the word pa and pa means perfect. So
  391. 23:49the piranhas are those books which
  392. 23:52establish and which present the perfect
  393. 23:56conclusion of what the vades are trying
  394. 23:58to teach you.
  395. 24:01He says okay but there are 18 puranas
  396. 24:05so which puranas should we go to because
  397. 24:07there's 18 of them. So then he says
  398. 24:10there are puranas in tamas
  399. 24:13puranas in rajas and puranas in satwa.
  400. 24:17There are piranhas which are in the
  401. 24:19ignorance in the passion and the
  402. 24:21goodness. So he says naturally if you
  403. 24:23want to find the highest then you should
  404. 24:25go to the piranhas which are in
  405. 24:28>> satwa goodness.
  406. 24:30Says but there's six of them.
  407. 24:33So then which should you go to? Then he
  408. 24:36says amongst the six puranas in satva
  409. 24:40there is one purana
  410. 24:42uh which is a purana
  411. 24:45and this purana has no imperfection.
  412. 24:48This purana has no material tinge and
  413. 24:51this purana throws away all uh cheating
  414. 24:54religion and that purana is.
  415. 25:01So this is the way in which jiva go
  416. 25:04swami establishes why this book is the
  417. 25:08conclusion of everything. Point number
  418. 25:10one there are three ways of acquiring
  419. 25:13knowledge but you have to learn by
  420. 25:15hearing.
  421. 25:16Point number two don't hear from a
  422. 25:19material source hear from a spiritual
  423. 25:22source. But point number three, there
  424. 25:24are many spiritual sources. But yes,
  425. 25:27amongst them, the vadic revelation is
  426. 25:29the highest on objective measure. Okay.
  427. 25:33But there are so many books in the
  428. 25:34vades. Yes. If you want to understand
  429. 25:37the essence of the vades, go to the
  430. 25:40>> puranas. But there are 18 puranas. Yes.
  431. 25:43But they're divided in three. Therefore,
  432. 25:45go to the puranas which are in the mode
  433. 25:47of
  434. 25:48>> satwa. And amongst those in the satwa
  435. 25:51there is one purana which is amala that
  436. 25:54is the bhavatam. And in this way he
  437. 25:58establishes
  438. 26:01that if you want to know anything
  439. 26:05then the place to go is bhagatam.
  440. 26:08Now this is very very powerful
  441. 26:11like now we're going to go out on book
  442. 26:13distribution and we're trying to share
  443. 26:15Krishna consciousness broadly in the
  444. 26:18world. You'll speak to three different
  445. 26:20types of people. One type of person will
  446. 26:23be like, why do I even need to read
  447. 26:25spiritual books?
  448. 26:29Another broad type of person will be,
  449. 26:32yeah, I'm a spiritual searcher, but why
  450. 26:34do I need to read Indian religion? I can
  451. 26:37read Christian, I can read Muslim, I can
  452. 26:39read other.
  453. 26:42And the third type of person is you'll
  454. 26:44meet the person who says, "I know
  455. 26:46everything.
  456. 26:49because I grew up in the Hindu religion.
  457. 26:51But why only Bhagavatam? We can read
  458. 26:53Shiv Purana, we can read that Purana, we
  459. 26:55can read Agni Purana.
  460. 26:58So broadly speaking in your preaching,
  461. 27:00you meet three type of people. An
  462. 27:03atheist, a spiritual searcher and
  463. 27:06someone already within the Vadic
  464. 27:10kind of world.
  465. 27:13Jiva Gowami establishes how to establish
  466. 27:16to each one of these people why they
  467. 27:19should read Bhagawatam.
  468. 27:21To an atheistic person, you can explain
  469. 27:24the reason you need to read this book is
  470. 27:26because your senses and mind are
  471. 27:28limited. And on that line of argument,
  472. 27:30you can defeat them. To a spiritual
  473. 27:33searcher who says why the Indian
  474. 27:34religion? I can go to any religion on
  475. 27:37the basis of Jiva Gowami. who can
  476. 27:39explain this is the highest revelation.
  477. 27:42You're not going to find any theology
  478. 27:44which is advanced as this. And to the
  479. 27:47person who's already looking into
  480. 27:49different vic scriptures, you can
  481. 27:52establish on the basis of Jivow Swami's
  482. 27:55explanation that yes, you're reading so
  483. 27:57many books in the Vedas, but if you want
  484. 27:59to understand the essence, you're going
  485. 28:01to find it here. Who compiled all of the
  486. 28:04Vedas?
  487. 28:06Vavyas. When Vavas wanted to summarize
  488. 28:10all of the Vades into codes, which book
  489. 28:13did he write?
  490. 28:15>> Vanta Sutra.
  491. 28:17And when he wanted to write a commentary
  492. 28:19on Vanta Sutra, which is the essence of
  493. 28:22the Vades, which book did he write?
  494. 28:24>> Chim Bhagat. So, who can know the
  495. 28:27essence of the Vades better than the
  496. 28:30person who compiled the thing in the
  497. 28:32first place?
  498. 28:34Therefore, jiva go swami says if you
  499. 28:36want to understand the vades you have to
  500. 28:38read bhagavatam.
  501. 28:41So this is why praad brought the
  502. 28:44bhavatam to America
  503. 28:47because on the basis of bhavatam you can
  504. 28:50convince anyone
  505. 28:53uh
  506. 28:54why they need to go on this path.
  507. 29:00So um I thought just to give this little
  508. 29:03bit of introduction. Does anyone have
  509. 29:06any questions on this?
  510. 29:21Which
  511. 29:23so first one is detail
  512. 29:26which has the most philosophical detail.
  513. 29:30Second one is intimacy.
  514. 29:32Which one describes the inner life of
  515. 29:35God? The inner mind of God. Which one
  516. 29:38describes how God exchanges love with
  517. 29:41his devotees?
  518. 29:43Which one explains what God is thinking?
  519. 29:46Why God does what he does?
  520. 29:49uh this is intimacy.
  521. 29:52Third one I think I said was
  522. 29:56>> transformation. Which one creates a
  523. 29:58transformation?
  524. 30:00If a theology doesn't transform,
  525. 30:03therefore even when Rupag Swami is
  526. 30:05explaining devotional service, what does
  527. 30:07he say?
  528. 30:18The very he says
  529. 30:22by practicing devotional service
  530. 30:26all auspiciousness will come.
  531. 30:29Apiciousness will come in your life.
  532. 30:31Apiciousness will come in those who are
  533. 30:33around you. Apiciousness will come in
  534. 30:36the world because it transforms.
  535. 30:40Fourth one is accessibility.
  536. 30:43The most that you see like Einstein he
  537. 30:47said if you can't explain it simply
  538. 30:51enough
  539. 30:52you don't know it well enough.
  540. 30:55The best teacher can teach the most
  541. 30:59advanced thing to even someone who has
  542. 31:02very little qualification because the
  543. 31:05deeper you know something the more
  544. 31:07simply you can understand it to anyone
  545. 31:10and everyone. Therefore, the Bhagwatam
  546. 31:12is simultaneously the highest philosophy
  547. 31:17and simultaneously made accessible to
  548. 31:20even
  549. 31:21someone who may not have so much
  550. 31:23qualification
  551. 31:28like that. So, accessibility and then
  552. 31:31the fifth one I gave was um beauty.
  553. 31:35Beauty.
  554. 31:38So, another time I'll show you
  555. 31:41how beautiful
  556. 31:44uh
  557. 31:46this theology is. Have you ever heard of
  558. 31:48Chitra Kavitwani?
  559. 31:53Okay, maybe I'll show you this tomorrow
  560. 31:55morning.
  561. 31:58I'll show you the beauty of Rupag
  562. 32:01Swami's poetry. It will blow your mind.
  563. 32:06I'll show you tomorrow because you need
  564. 32:08to see if there's a projector. I can
  565. 32:10show you.
  566. 32:13>> So this beauty, the beauty of the
  567. 32:16language, the beauty of the culture, the
  568. 32:18beauty of the art,
  569. 32:21um the Vic, there's no beauty like this.
  570. 32:26So this is why when we go out and we say
  571. 32:29this is the highest, this is the
  572. 32:30highest. It's not just some fanatical
  573. 32:32statement.
  574. 32:34On objective measure you can establish
  575. 32:37that Krishna consciousness is the most
  576. 32:39advanced theology.
  577. 32:41Bacta Swami once he went on national
  578. 32:44television and he said if anyone can
  579. 32:47show me a more evolved theology than
  580. 32:50what I'm practicing I'll convert to your
  581. 32:52religion right now.
  582. 32:56But you have to show on objective
  583. 32:58measure
  584. 33:00that it's more advanced.
  585. 33:04Okay.
  586. 33:12So recently
  587. 33:17people
  588. 33:19say
  589. 33:26history.
  590. 33:30So how can I
  591. 33:41So sometimes people say there
  592. 33:44that which is heard that which is
  593. 33:47directly emanating in the ether from the
  594. 33:50mouth of the supreme personality of
  595. 33:52godhead and which is then passed down by
  596. 33:54sages through oral reception.
  597. 33:57And then there is shmmiti that which is
  598. 34:00remembered by the sages that which is
  599. 34:02then documented in histories like the
  600. 34:04itas the puranas like that.
  601. 34:08So sometimes people make the argument
  602. 34:10that um
  603. 34:13is somehow more authoritative thani
  604. 34:16because this is just some stories. This
  605. 34:18is just some uh something that is uh
  606. 34:22written down by the sages.
  607. 34:26The first thing to understand is that
  608. 34:29these sages who are writing these things
  609. 34:32down, they are in uh contact with the
  610. 34:35supreme lord.
  611. 34:37Rishi, the word rishi comes from the
  612. 34:41Sanskrit word disha. Disha literally
  613. 34:45means one who is seeing.
  614. 34:50So therefore rishi like for example it's
  615. 34:53explained that when vasadev compiles
  616. 34:56shrimmed bhagwatam then the language in
  617. 34:59which he's compiling it is sanskrit but
  618. 35:02in another sense it's what we call
  619. 35:04samadi pashia
  620. 35:07the language of trance
  621. 35:10in other words uh the sages they are
  622. 35:13completely connected to the absolute
  623. 35:16truth and therefore when they right
  624. 35:20is non- different.
  625. 35:23Therefore, when for example when we uh
  626. 35:26talk about the 10 offenses to the holy
  627. 35:28name and we say to blaspheme the vadic
  628. 35:32literatures or literatures in pursuance
  629. 35:35of the vadic version because the idea is
  630. 35:38that which is compiled by those who are
  631. 35:41pure is nondiffer than the supreme lord
  632. 35:45himself
  633. 35:47and therefore jivow swami also
  634. 35:49establishes he says
  635. 35:56that the puranas
  636. 35:58the upanishads themselves the chandoga
  637. 36:01upanishad itself says that the piranhas
  638. 36:05are the fifth va
  639. 36:07so uh even the vadas itself even the
  640. 36:12shruti itself
  641. 36:14says that the shmmiti or the histories
  642. 36:17are actually vadic and they're actually
  643. 36:20uh pramman their authority.
  644. 36:24So that's why jiva go swami in tvasa
  645. 36:27he's explaining this that and in one
  646. 36:30sense we say for example that this is
  647. 36:32not the words of the supreme person
  648. 36:36but the bhagat gita is krishna's
  649. 36:38wordshavan
  650. 36:44so although it's contained within the
  651. 36:46mahabharat
  652. 36:50it's still the direct words of the
  653. 36:52supreme lord which are documented by the
  654. 36:56so in that sense uh the itas or thei or
  655. 37:00the puranas are not any less
  656. 37:05than
  657. 37:07[clears throat]
  658. 37:09any other questions on this
  659. 37:17happy
  660. 37:19okay
  661. 37:22how we What time?
  662. 37:28>> What time we going to?
  663. 37:29>> 8.
  664. 37:30>> We go to 8. Okay. So, should I read a
  665. 37:32verse?
  666. 37:37>> Okay. Let's just read any verse until we
  667. 37:40say stop.
  668. 37:46[cough]
  669. 37:46[clears throat]
  670. 37:49>> Okay. So we're reading from canto number
  671. 37:51one chapter number nine entitled the
  672. 37:54passing away of Bishma.
  673. 37:58Today we're reading from text number 46.
  674. 38:02So just to give you a background to this
  675. 38:04uh Shrimat Bhagwatam continues where the
  676. 38:07Mahabharat ends.
  677. 38:09So therefore the first kanto of the
  678. 38:12Bhagwatam explains everything that
  679. 38:15happened when the Kurukhetra war ended.
  680. 38:19Therefore, if you look at the final
  681. 38:21chapters of the Mahabharat and you look
  682. 38:23at the structure of the first kanto, you
  683. 38:26will actually see that they mirror each
  684. 38:28other.
  685. 38:30So what happens at the end of the
  686. 38:33Kurukhetra? Many many things happen but
  687. 38:35one of the things that happens is that
  688. 38:37Udistia is overwhelmed with grief
  689. 38:41because he has seen so many people uh
  690. 38:44annihilated
  691. 38:46his cousins uh so many people have died
  692. 38:49on the battlefield
  693. 38:52and therefore he feels guilty. He feels
  694. 38:56that because uh he was to be made king,
  695. 38:59he was to be made emperor that so much
  696. 39:02suffering had to take place. And
  697. 39:05therefore being bewildered, he decides
  698. 39:08to go to see Bishma.
  699. 39:12Bishma is on the bed of arrows. Bishma
  700. 39:16has the city that he can choose the time
  701. 39:19of his death.
  702. 39:22It is said that uh in the Bhagwatam that
  703. 39:25Bishma is waiting for utarayana.
  704. 39:29Utarayana means the rising sun. When the
  705. 39:31sun is at a certain point then he is
  706. 39:35waiting for that moment and then he will
  707. 39:37leave. But Vishnak
  708. 39:40says doesn't mean the rising sun. It
  709. 39:44doesn't mean that the sun is in a
  710. 39:45certain point. There is a person uty
  711. 39:52there is a personality who appeared in
  712. 39:54the womb of uterikshit.
  713. 39:58Who is that?
  714. 40:00>> Krishna.
  715. 40:01So Bishma is not waiting for utayana.
  716. 40:06He is waiting for utarayana.
  717. 40:09>> He's not waiting for the sun to appear
  718. 40:11at a certain point. He's waiting for
  719. 40:13Krishna to appear. And when Krishna is
  720. 40:16in front of him once he's had dion of
  721. 40:19Krishna then he will decide to leave the
  722. 40:22world. So Udishia he is bewildered.
  723. 40:26Krishna knows Bishma is on the bed of
  724. 40:28arrows. So Krishna puts two and two
  725. 40:31together and he says to Udishia and the
  726. 40:33pandas let us go and visit Bishma.
  727. 40:38And there on the bed of arrows Bishma
  728. 40:41begins to give many many different
  729. 40:44instructions.
  730. 40:46Mahabharat is how many verses long?
  731. 40:51>> About 100,000.
  732. 40:53Did you know
  733. 40:55that nearly half of the Mahabharat,
  734. 40:59half
  735. 41:01is Bishma's instructions on the bed of
  736. 41:03arrows?
  737. 41:05Did you know that
  738. 41:08nearly half of the whole Mahabharat
  739. 41:12is Bishma's instructions on the bed of
  740. 41:15arrows because he talks about all kinds
  741. 41:17of dharma all kinds of so in the
  742. 41:19Bhagatam is very very quick. We hear
  743. 41:22about the some instructions that Bishma
  744. 41:26gives but actually in the Mahabharat is
  745. 41:29is a vast
  746. 41:31uh vast part of the Mahabharat.
  747. 41:34Bishmade's instructions.
  748. 41:36So
  749. 41:39um
  750. 41:41so here we're hearing about the passing
  751. 41:43away of Bishm
  752. 41:46text number 46
  753. 42:03translation.
  754. 42:05Oh descendant of Brigu Shaak, after
  755. 42:09performing funeral rituals for the dead
  756. 42:11body of Bishmadev,
  757. 42:14Marajistia was momentarily
  758. 42:17overtaken with grief.
  759. 42:21Purple
  760. 42:22Bishmadev was not only a great family
  761. 42:25head of Maharaj Judistia but also he was
  762. 42:29a great philosopher and friend to him
  763. 42:32his brothers and his mother. Since
  764. 42:36Maharaj Pandu the father of the five
  765. 42:39brothers headed by Maharaj Udistia had
  766. 42:42died. Bishmadev was the most
  767. 42:45affectionate grandfather of the pandas
  768. 42:48and caretaker of the widow
  769. 42:51daughter-in-law counti.
  770. 42:54[clears throat]
  771. 42:55Although Maharaj Darashtra
  772. 42:58the elder uncle of Maharajistia
  773. 43:01was there to look after them, his
  774. 43:03affection was more on the side of his
  775. 43:05hundred sons headed by Duryodan.
  776. 43:09Ultimately a colossal clique was
  777. 43:12fabricated to deprive the five
  778. 43:14fatherless brothers of the rightful
  779. 43:16claim of the kingdom of Hustinapur.
  780. 43:20There was great intrigue common in
  781. 43:23imperial palaces and the five brothers
  782. 43:26were exiled to the wilderness. But
  783. 43:29Bishmade was always a sincerely
  784. 43:32sympathetic well-wisher, grandfather,
  785. 43:35friend and philosopher to Maharaj
  786. 43:37Udistia.
  787. 43:39Even up to the last moment of his life,
  788. 43:43he died very happily by seeing Maharaj
  789. 43:46Udistia to the throne. Otherwise, he
  790. 43:50would have long ago quitted his material
  791. 43:52body instead of suffering agony over the
  792. 43:56undue sufferings of the Pandas.
  793. 43:59He was simply waiting for the opportune
  794. 44:01moment because he was sure and certain
  795. 44:05that the sons of Pandu would come out
  796. 44:07victorious in the battlefield of
  797. 44:09Kurukhetra
  798. 44:11as his lordship Sri Krishna was their
  799. 44:14protector.
  800. 44:15As a devotey of the Lord, he knew that
  801. 44:18the Lord's devotey cannot be vanquished
  802. 44:22at any time. Marajidistia was quite
  803. 44:25aware of all these good wishes of
  804. 44:28Bishmadev and therefore he must have
  805. 44:31been feeling the great separation.
  806. 44:34He was sorry for the separation of a
  807. 44:36great soul and not for the material body
  808. 44:40which Bishmadev relinquished.
  809. 44:43The funeral ceremony was a necessary
  810. 44:45duty. Although Bishmade was a liberated
  811. 44:48soul. Since Bishmade was without issue,
  812. 44:53the eldest grandson namely Marajistia
  813. 44:57was the rightful person to perform this
  814. 44:59ceremony. It was a great boon to
  815. 45:02Bishmadev that an equally great son of
  816. 45:05the family undertook the last rights of
  817. 45:09a great man.
  818. 45:15So therefore it's explained that there
  819. 45:18are different
  820. 45:20mahajms.
  821. 45:34There are 12 personalities who are said
  822. 45:37to be [clears throat] authorities in
  823. 45:40Vadic literature.
  824. 45:44Who's that?
  825. 45:47>> Who's Swamu?
  826. 45:53>> Lord Brahma
  827. 45:56literally means born
  828. 46:00from himself. Like in one sense he was
  829. 46:03born from the navl. So he had no
  830. 46:07conventional father in that way. Nada
  831. 46:12nar
  832. 46:14to give. Therefore nada one who is
  833. 46:18traveling around the universe always
  834. 46:20giving naran to others. Shambhu
  835. 46:25>> Shiva
  836. 46:27it's explained in Bhagwatam isn't it?
  837. 46:43Ganga of all rivers Ganga is foremost.
  838. 46:50Of all the gods achna is the foremost
  839. 46:56of all piranhas bhagata is foremost and
  840. 47:00navanamashu
  841. 47:03of all vaynavas shiva is considered
  842. 47:07foremost
  843. 47:12isn't it we say bhta
  844. 47:15shiroi
  845. 47:17bhakta what is a shiomani
  846. 47:22is a crest jewel. A crown jewel,
  847. 47:25isn't it? So this he is like the crown
  848. 47:28jewel. The crest jewel of devotees.
  849. 47:31Janak.
  850. 47:34Janak is mentioned in Gita. He's there's
  851. 47:38many many stories of how Janak was such
  852. 47:41advanced. He said once all the sages
  853. 47:44came to Janak and they were wondering we
  854. 47:47are all Thiagois. We're all renunciates,
  855. 47:50but you're always glorified. We don't
  856. 47:52understand. You are a king. You have so
  857. 47:55many duties. You have so many dharmas.
  858. 47:57You have so many preoccupations,
  859. 48:00yet you're always glorified as such an
  860. 48:02advanced devotey.
  861. 48:04How are you able to think of so many
  862. 48:06things at once?
  863. 48:09He said, "Come back at lunchtime. I'll
  864. 48:12give you the answer."
  865. 48:15So all the sages came back at lunchtime.
  866. 48:18And so he said please sit down take
  867. 48:20prashad. So they all sat down in a row.
  868. 48:24And as they sat down they looked above
  869. 48:26them and above every single seat was a
  870. 48:31sword
  871. 48:32and the sword was hanging on a thin
  872. 48:35piece of string.
  873. 48:38So now imagine you're taking prashad
  874. 48:40[laughter]
  875. 48:41and there's a sword above you hanging on
  876. 48:43a thin piece of string. So they looked
  877. 48:46at Janak. They said what's this? He said
  878. 48:48it's part of the decor. It's part of the
  879. 48:50design.
  880. 48:53Janak looked at them and he said, "You
  881. 48:55already said I'm glorified as such a
  882. 48:57dharmic person. So would I do anything
  883. 48:59to hurt you? You relax. You just take
  884. 49:01prashad."
  885. 49:03So anyway, they sat. They took prashad.
  886. 49:08At the end, Janak said to them, "Had
  887. 49:10pashad." Yes. Had pashad. Digested. Yes.
  888. 49:13Digested.
  889. 49:15What were you thinking of while taking
  890. 49:17pushad?
  891. 49:19We could only think of that thing. He
  892. 49:22said this is how it's possible
  893. 49:25to do your duties
  894. 49:28but at the same time have your mind
  895. 49:30fixed in completely something else. So
  896. 49:33yes, I have my kingly duties. I have so
  897. 49:36many things I'm doing. But my mindn
  898. 49:43is always fixed on Krishna. So this is
  899. 49:46how you can be doing one thing
  900. 49:49externally busy externally active but in
  901. 49:53your mind be completely fixed on
  902. 49:55something else like this jan was
  903. 49:57glorified
  904. 50:02bishma is the next great authority
  905. 50:12mar
  906. 50:14he was Uh
  907. 50:17he he he is the embodiment of atman
  908. 50:22isn't he gave everything
  909. 50:33great authority
  910. 50:37and me who is mear
  911. 50:41yamaraj is the one speaking this verse
  912. 50:45So these are all the great authorities
  913. 50:47on devotional service. Bishma he loved
  914. 50:51the pandas. Bishma was a great soul. He
  915. 50:54was a mahajan. There's no question of
  916. 50:56Bishma
  917. 50:58in any way, shape or form having any
  918. 51:01impurity.
  919. 51:03However,
  920. 51:05Leela and because of showing the world
  921. 51:09the complexity of dharma, he was caught
  922. 51:12in a situation where he was on the side
  923. 51:14of the core of us.
  924. 51:17He had to support the korovas and
  925. 51:19therefore he had to seemingly
  926. 51:22uh
  927. 51:24do things which seemed to be against the
  928. 51:27pandas not in the interest of the pandas
  929. 51:29but actually he was um he was always uh
  930. 51:34completely uh looking out for their
  931. 51:38well-being.
  932. 51:41So Bishma in his humility sometimes he
  933. 51:44will show his weakness but actually like
  934. 51:47for example when he was on the bed of
  935. 51:49arrows then Dropati came to him
  936. 51:54he was speaking all this amazing wisdom
  937. 51:58so Dropi looked at him and said you're
  938. 52:00speaking all this amazing wisdom now
  939. 52:04where was all this wisdom when I was
  940. 52:06being disroed in the gambling arena
  941. 52:11Where was all the good wisdom then?
  942. 52:15And Bishma in his humility he said I was
  943. 52:18living in the palace of the Koravas and
  944. 52:22therefore every single day I was eating
  945. 52:24their food
  946. 52:27and therefore I was contaminated
  947. 52:31and therefore I couldn't think straight.
  948. 52:34But now I'm on the bed of arrows and all
  949. 52:38of that blood has been drained from my
  950. 52:40body.
  951. 52:42Therefore, I have regained
  952. 52:44my good conscience.
  953. 52:49That's how Bishma explained it. Anyway,
  954. 52:52the
  955. 52:54lesson for us is
  956. 52:56only eat
  957. 53:01it has an effect.
  958. 53:03But like this Bishma very very humble
  959. 53:06but actually a great soul
  960. 53:09love
  961. 53:12and uh here you yes naturally he feels a
  962. 53:16lamentation when a great soul leaves the
  963. 53:18world um then naturally
  964. 53:22there is great pain a great feeling of
  965. 53:24loss even though we know yes the soul is
  966. 53:29eternal even though we know yes they've
  967. 53:31gone back to Christishna
  968. 53:34Even then it becomes very very
  969. 53:36difficult. So Udysphere is overtaken
  970. 53:40with grief momentarily
  971. 53:42but not so much that he forgets his duty
  972. 53:46like we were talking yesterday. So
  973. 53:48naturally when we lose a loved one there
  974. 53:51is grief. Udistia is feeling the grief.
  975. 53:54But here it says Marajistia was
  976. 53:57momentarily
  977. 53:59overcome by grief. In other words, in
  978. 54:02that moment, yes, there was great grief,
  979. 54:05but not so much that it debilitated him
  980. 54:08from then going on and becoming emperor
  981. 54:10and doing his duty. So he performed the
  982. 54:14final sacrifice rights for Bishma
  983. 54:19and then continued on with his duty and
  984. 54:23when the time came also left and then
  985. 54:27Perik
  986. 54:29took over. like this.
  987. 54:40>> Three minutes if any last questions or
  988. 54:43comments. Yes.
  989. 54:45[clears throat]
  990. 54:57In the presence of
  991. 55:00So at that moment he he regained his
  992. 55:03consciousness and he knew like he
  993. 55:05already knew obviously
  994. 55:08but how to understand how he gave
  995. 55:11instructions in front of Lord like Lord
  996. 55:14already gave instructions in the form of
  997. 55:15like he spoke of so instruction.
  998. 55:30When Chaitananya Mahapu travels to South
  999. 55:32India,
  1000. 55:35then Chaitananya Mahapu comes to
  1001. 55:36Godavari
  1002. 55:39and there in Godavari he meets
  1003. 55:40Ramanandaray
  1004. 55:43and he says to Ramanandereay
  1005. 55:46uh I am the sasi
  1006. 55:48I'm the supreme lord but today you're
  1007. 55:51going going to give the class
  1008. 55:54and then Chaitanany Maha Prabhu asks him
  1009. 55:56a question what is the ultimate goal of
  1010. 55:58life.
  1011. 56:01Ramanandaray begins speaking things and
  1012. 56:03Mahapu says
  1013. 56:06this is external. Say something more.
  1014. 56:08Say something more.
  1015. 56:11Like this Chetani Mahapu draws all of
  1016. 56:14the philosophy out from Ramanandai.
  1017. 56:17And later on Ramanand Ray said I am like
  1018. 56:20a stringed instrument
  1019. 56:23and you are like a expert musician.
  1020. 56:27The sound seems to be coming from me.
  1021. 56:30But actually it is your expert playing
  1022. 56:34of me that is bringing out something
  1023. 56:37good.
  1024. 56:38So therefore the devote
  1025. 56:42understands
  1026. 56:46Krishna is here. He's the compiler of
  1027. 56:48the Vedas. He knows everything. But
  1028. 56:50still because Krishna has asked him,
  1029. 56:53Krishna has come with the pandas and
  1030. 56:56Krishna knows that the pandeas are
  1031. 56:58bewildered. Krishna knows that the
  1032. 57:01pandas need direction.
  1033. 57:03Krishna knows that they need to be uh
  1034. 57:06trained
  1035. 57:08uh in their dharma. Therefore uh Krishna
  1036. 57:12encourages Bishmadev and Bishmadev as a
  1037. 57:15service then speaks to the pandas like
  1038. 57:19that. So like this we can see that a
  1039. 57:22devotey
  1040. 57:24uh sometimes
  1041. 57:26whatever the supreme lord wants to do uh
  1042. 57:30whether it's speaking whether it's doing
  1043. 57:33a project whether it's cooking a devotey
  1044. 57:37knows everything. The Lord can do it
  1045. 57:38himself. He doesn't need me. But when
  1046. 57:41the devotey gets an opportunity to
  1047. 57:43serve, then the devotey becomes very
  1048. 57:46very enthusiastic to take advantage.
  1049. 57:50And so on the order of Krishna, he
  1050. 57:52spoke.
  1051. 57:58Okay, I think we can finish here. Thank
  1052. 58:01you so much.

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