Baseball's Most Notorious Drug Dealer — Transcript
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- 0:00in 2007 a fake doctor who had a clinic
- 0:03in a tanning salon created a
- 0:05performance-enhancing drug protocol that
- 0:07served multiple mvps all-stars and
- 0:10potential future hall-of-famers it also
- 0:13caused 10 arrests multiple death threats
- 0:15an investigation from florida police an
- 0:17investigation from the dea and even an
- 0:20investigation from mlb themselves which
- 0:22allegedly included investigators
- 0:24sleeping with potential witnesses paying
- 0:26off potential witnesses and spending
- 0:28hundreds of thousands of dollars to buy
- 0:30stolen documents from criminals this
- 0:33resulted in more than 15 players being
- 0:36punished including the longest
- 0:38suspension in major league history one
- 0:40player publicly exposed other players
- 0:43including his own teammate for using
- 0:45peds to make himself seem less guilty
- 0:48one created an entirely fake website to
- 0:51prove his innocence and one player even
- 0:53claimed the drug tester purposely
- 0:55tainted his sample because he was
- 0:57anti-semitic and this entire controversy
- 1:01created a war between alex rodriguez and
- 1:03mlb in which both sides accuse the other
- 1:06of multiple crimes which got people
- 1:08fired and even sent to prison and
- 1:11concluded with a legendary courtroom
- 1:13showdown which allegedly featured a fake
- 1:15protest an altercation between lawyers
- 1:18and reporters an altercation between
- 1:20lawyers and other lawyers and concluded
- 1:22with someone having a severe courtroom
- 1:24meltdown ending the most bizarre scandal
- 1:28in the history of major league baseball
- 1:31record suspension tonight for baseball
- 1:33star alex rodriguez prescribed to
- 1:35address ramirez's erectile dysfunction
- 1:38the most despicable liar in the history
- 1:41of baseball alex rodriguez and or his
- 1:44associates were involved in threatening
- 1:46to kill tony bosch
- 1:49[Music]
- 1:54on january 12 2014 mlb orchestrated a
- 1:58segment on 60 minutes with one goal make
- 2:01alex rodriguez look as guilty as
- 2:04possible tonight you are going to hear
- 2:07details of the evidence for the first
- 2:09time his actions
- 2:11were
- 2:14beyond comprehension the most important
- 2:16and controversial interview on this
- 2:18segment was done by tony bosch he says
- 2:20that when he got there he had drugs and
- 2:22alcohol waiting for him in his dressing
- 2:24room to make him feel more comfortable
- 2:26they were put there as a gift but he
- 2:28still doesn't really know who the gift
- 2:30was from mlb wanted him to go on 60
- 2:33minutes and tell the world a-rod took
- 2:36performance-enhancing drugs and that he
- 2:38as a-rod's personal doctor supplied them
- 2:41but tony bosch wasn't even a real doctor
- 2:44he did however know a ton of doctors and
- 2:47many of them were his family members the
- 2:49most famous one was his cousin orlando
- 2:52love him or hate him or ladobosh is
- 2:54tonight released from prison who
- 2:56according to the justice department
- 2:58committed 30 acts of sabotage was
- 3:00convicted for firing a homemade rocket
- 3:03at a cargo ship and mastermind a plan to
- 3:06destroy a commercial airplane with 76
- 3:09passengers on it and after all of this
- 3:11he was also officially given his own day
- 3:14by the city of miami for his
- 3:16anti-communist cause tony bash's parents
- 3:19were a lot less controversial they
- 3:21migrated to the u.s from cuba and became
- 3:24successful physicians and were able to
- 3:26give tony an upper class upbringing
- 3:28according to tony brosh this did not
- 3:30stop him from getting into trouble in
- 3:32high school he was kicked off the
- 3:33baseball team for doing drugs and not
- 3:35showing up to practice and his lack of
- 3:37discipline may have stopped tony from
- 3:39achieving his goal of being a doctor
- 3:41however it did not stop him from
- 3:43becoming a fake doctor tony bosch was
- 3:45already in his 40s but went back to
- 3:47school and got his degree from central
- 3:49america health sciences university a
- 3:52school in belize with less than 500
- 3:55students at this point tony bosch had
- 3:57already been divorced had been sued for
- 3:59unpaid child support had to foreclose on
- 4:01a home had multiple failed medical
- 4:04businesses and had been sued by his
- 4:06investors the degree he got from belize
- 4:08by no means makes it legal for him to
- 4:09call himself a doctor but this did not
- 4:12stop him he framed his diploma bought a
- 4:14lab coat with dr bosh stitched on it and
- 4:17opened up an anti-aging clinic in
- 4:19florida his business model was basically
- 4:21to prescribe patients with things like
- 4:22synthetic testosterone human growth
- 4:24hormone hgc and peptides to basically
- 4:28anybody who wanted it these substances
- 4:30are legal to prescribe for several rare
- 4:32medical conditions and it's safe to
- 4:34assume that bosch's patients mostly
- 4:37didn't have these conditions and even if
- 4:39they did he's not even a doctor so he
- 4:42can't write a prescription but luckily
- 4:44for bosch there are a ton of retired
- 4:46doctors in florida who are willing to
- 4:48rent out their prescription pads to fake
- 4:50doctors like bosh if they give him a cut
- 4:52of the profits bosch's father was one of
- 4:55them he used his name and several other
- 4:58doctors to prescribe medications to
- 5:00basically anybody who wanted it at one
- 5:02point fosh was writing prescriptions
- 5:05with the name of a doctor who had been
- 5:07dead for years and didn't even notice i
- 5:10thought he was still alive
- 5:12and yeah but yet and then and then the
- 5:14other his partner told me no he he died
- 5:16pretty much everything about this is
- 5:18illegal but in florida not really in
- 5:21large part due to a man named rick scott
- 5:23remember me the handsome bald guy who
- 5:25oversaw one of the largest health care
- 5:27frauds in history he was the ceo of a
- 5:30company that was fined 1.7 billion
- 5:33dollars for giving patients tests they
- 5:35didn't need giving fake diagnosis and
- 5:38health care visits to people who didn't
- 5:40qualify for them all in order to receive
- 5:42hundreds of millions of dollars from the
- 5:45government and in 2011 this man also
- 5:47became the governor of
- 5:51you're an florida
- 5:52to our state
- 5:54sweet
- 5:55[Music]
- 5:56rick scott passed legislation that took
- 5:58away millions of dollars in funding to
- 6:00the department of health which was meant
- 6:02to investigate illegal medical
- 6:04operations like the one tony bosh ran
- 6:07according to the miami new times over a
- 6:09four year span the department of health
- 6:11investigated and referred 206 cases of
- 6:14unlicensed practitioners to florida law
- 6:17enforcement only four of those cases led
- 6:20to convictions this has created a
- 6:22massive anti-aging market in florida
- 6:24where people basically just sell hgh and
- 6:27testosterone out of a doctor's office to
- 6:29anybody who wants it this type of gray
- 6:32market attracts criminals from across
- 6:34the world it also attracts athletes and
- 6:36in 2007 tony bosch was introduced to his
- 6:39most famous client not named alex
- 6:42rodriguez he was tony bosh's first major
- 6:44league client and he just so happened to
- 6:46be one of the best and most outlandish
- 6:49baseball players of all time manny
- 6:52ramirez became tony bosh's first vip
- 6:55client meaning he traveled with him
- 6:57everywhere to give him a specific
- 6:59protocol of peds that would change
- 7:02constantly according to bosch his job
- 7:04description also meant recruiting women
- 7:07for manny and sleeping in the same room
- 7:09with him on the road saying he was asked
- 7:11to read manny bedtime stories because
- 7:14ramirez had trouble falling asleep by
- 7:16himself bosh's protocol required him to
- 7:18give players small doses of banned
- 7:20substances at different times throughout
- 7:22the day to maximize their energy
- 7:24recovery and performance he used things
- 7:26like hgh testosterone peptides and
- 7:28various other substances all banned by
- 7:31mlb mixed with other legal substances
- 7:33like zinc melatonin and amino acids all
- 7:36of them serve their own unique purpose
- 7:38the banned substances were taken in such
- 7:40low doses and at strategic times if
- 7:42taken correctly they would not show up
- 7:44on random drug tests bosch's clients
- 7:46would be able to take a testosterone
- 7:48pill that they would call gummies
- 7:50moments before a game began and by the
- 7:52time the game ended it would be
- 7:53completely out of their system bosch may
- 7:56have been a fake doctor but his protocol
- 7:58seemed to work in 2007 manny ramirez
- 8:00only hit 20 home runs the lowest total
- 8:03of his career the next year under
- 8:05bosch's protocol he hit 37 home runs had
- 8:08an ops above a thousand and finished
- 8:10fourth in mvp boating he was 36 years
- 8:14old but in 2009 after getting traded to
- 8:16the dodgers i'm back
- 8:18and being one of the best players in the
- 8:20world while being there manny tested
- 8:22positive according to bosh manny
- 8:25accidentally took a testosterone cream
- 8:27that was supposed to be taken on off
- 8:29days on the day of the game and randomly
- 8:32got drug tested manny ramirez publicly
- 8:34claimed he was prescribed a pad from a
- 8:36doctor but thought it was legal and a
- 8:38source close to manny even told the
- 8:40media that his drug test was due to
- 8:42medicine he took for erectile
- 8:44dysfunction tony bosch and his father's
- 8:46names were made public as the people
- 8:48responsible for supplying manny and soon
- 8:50the dea was investigating them both this
- 8:53seemed like it could be the end of tony
- 8:55bosh's clinic but in reality it only
- 8:57made his business more popular bosch
- 9:00laid low and was never charged according
- 9:02to him once everybody found out he was
- 9:04supplying manny ramirez he went from
- 9:06seeing five to seven patients a week to
- 9:09seeing around 60 patients a week bosch
- 9:11is mostly known for supplying major
- 9:13leaguers but a large part of his clients
- 9:15were either regular professional workers
- 9:17or amateur athletes and a lot of these
- 9:20amateur athletes came with their parents
- 9:23in 2013 a survey found that hgh use
- 9:26amongst teenagers had doubled in only
- 9:28one year the survey also found that 11
- 9:31percent of high school students had
- 9:34tried hgh before and an even crazier
- 9:36stat found that hga's prescriptions for
- 9:39teens in palm beach county florida from
- 9:412003 to 2011 rose
- 9:45376 percent the same county tony bosch's
- 9:49clinic was located in according to bosch
- 9:51a man named laser would help him recruit
- 9:54high school players to his clinic he was
- 9:56a pitching coach for the university of
- 9:57miami but left after he let high school
- 9:59players use the miami facility and took
- 10:01recruits on boat rides he was also fired
- 10:04from another coaching job after dropping
- 10:06his pants in front of the whole team and
- 10:08asking them if they quote unquote had a
- 10:10pair of these however the school says
- 10:13other than that he was a good leader and
- 10:14administrator laser was accused of
- 10:16recruiting high school players and even
- 10:18taking his own sons to bosch's clinic
- 10:21for testosterone he was even supposed to
- 10:23be arrested for distribution of the
- 10:25substance but never was because he was
- 10:27in the hospital after breaking up a
- 10:29fight between two dogs however laser
- 10:32took a plea deal and was only punished
- 10:34for possession of testosterone it is not
- 10:36clear if laser or anybody actually
- 10:38actively recruited high school players
- 10:40to the clinic but bosch admits that he
- 10:42gave at least 18 kids as young as 15
- 10:45years old peds because sadly tony bosch
- 10:48would pretty much work with anybody
- 10:51including criminals and the most
- 10:52noticeable one was a man named oogie
- 10:55he's been arrested for grand theft drug
- 10:57offenses burglary and was charged with
- 10:59domestic violence and battery he also
- 11:02somehow happened to be an acquaintance
- 11:04with alex rodriguez oogie became tony
- 11:07bosch's black market testosterone
- 11:08supplier because bosch had so many
- 11:10clients he couldn't get all the
- 11:12substances he needed through
- 11:14prescriptions oogie also helped tony
- 11:16bosch open up a new clinic called boca
- 11:18body which was a clinic located in a
- 11:21boca tanning salon
- 11:30and this is where tony bosch met a guy
- 11:32named porter fisher bosch put porter
- 11:35fischer on one of his protocols and soon
- 11:38fisher surrounded himself with bosch
- 11:40anytime he could porter fisher is just a
- 11:43random guy who likes tanning and
- 11:45testosterone but he would go on to
- 11:47become a lot more because he would do
- 11:50something to get back at tony bosch that
- 11:52would ruin bosch's life put his own life
- 11:54in serious serious danger and basically
- 11:57caused the biggest ped scandal in
- 12:00baseball history bosch's new
- 12:02testosterone dealer oogie would go on to
- 12:04introduce him to alex rodriguez who told
- 12:06him right away that he wanted whatever
- 12:09manny ramirez was taking tony bosch did
- 12:11and within a week awot hit three home
- 12:13runs in a single game he was immediately
- 12:16bosh's newest and biggest vip client but
- 12:20at this point he was one of many it
- 12:22seems like bosch was extremely busy
- 12:24giving players across the league his
- 12:26attention he claims he injected one
- 12:28player at a gas station one player told
- 12:31him hours before a game he needed help
- 12:32with an injection so he drove to marlins
- 12:35park picked up the player who was in
- 12:37full uniform went to a local polio
- 12:39tropical and injected him in the
- 12:41bathroom he even says he once had to
- 12:44take a blood sample from a-rod in a
- 12:46miami nightclub the two continued
- 12:48partying and bosch ended up losing the
- 12:50vial of blood the two literally crawled
- 12:53on the ground in the crowded club trying
- 12:55to find it bosch's laundry list of major
- 12:57leaguers included several all-stars mvps
- 13:00and players who seemed like locks to be
- 13:02hall of famers but today the chances
- 13:04that any of these players are going to
- 13:05make the hall of fame have decreased
- 13:07significantly because starting in 2011
- 13:10bosch's clients began testing positive
- 13:12and other than alex rodriguez the first
- 13:14one of them to fall went as far as
- 13:17anybody to clear his name including
- 13:19making up accusations against an
- 13:21innocent man which completely ruined his
- 13:23reputation all in order to make the
- 13:25player seem like he was clean and this
- 13:28actually worked in october 2011 ryan
- 13:32braun set a record for having the
- 13:34highest testosterone ever recorded in a
- 13:36major league drug test and according to
- 13:38the daily news it was twice as high as
- 13:40the person who previously held the
- 13:42record this was the same season braun
- 13:45won nl mvp and up to that point he had a
- 13:48start to his career that rivaled
- 13:49anyone's after news of his positive
- 13:51tests went public braun went into
- 13:53full-on denial he blamed the person who
- 13:56handled his sample for not following
- 13:58protocol braun publicly hinted that he
- 14:00discovered some quote unquote suspicious
- 14:02things about the man taking the sample
- 14:05braun even reportedly told players
- 14:07across the league that the man was a
- 14:09cubs fan and was anti-semitic ryan braun
- 14:13is jewish and claimed this could be why
- 14:15his test came up positive but in reality
- 14:17ron was extremely aware his hgh and
- 14:20testosterone use probably had more to do
- 14:22with the positive test the man who took
- 14:24bronze sample was supposed to give it to
- 14:26fedex to be shipped but since fedex was
- 14:28closing soon and the sample wouldn't be
- 14:30shipped until the next day he waited to
- 14:32avoid the risk that the sample would be
- 14:34tampered or broken in the hands of fedex
- 14:36and apparently this was enough to
- 14:38overturn ryan braun's suspension the
- 14:41investigators found that the sample seal
- 14:43was never broken or tampered with but
- 14:46still waiting that extra day was
- 14:48technically against the rules and made
- 14:50the test invalid few months later the
- 14:52man who decided to reverse the
- 14:54suspension was fired commissioner bud
- 14:56selig wanted ryan braun and anyone else
- 14:59doing peds suspended and soon he would
- 15:02get his wish because about a year later
- 15:04tony bosh's empire began to crumble in
- 15:072012 two of tony bash's clients tested
- 15:10positive in one week bartolo colon
- 15:12tested positive and was suspended 50
- 15:15games bosch served cologne and
- 15:17exclusively referred to him by the
- 15:18nickname dui when he tested positive he
- 15:22was 39 years old and was putting up his
- 15:24best era in 10 years that same week
- 15:27melky cabrera tested positive as well
- 15:30only one week after winning the all-star
- 15:32game mvp award who were these lovely
- 15:34ladies i'm thank you they're fine we got
- 15:37mom here who else is here with you thank
- 15:38you thank you
- 15:40he also made an extremely insane attempt
- 15:44to plead his innocence melki claimed he
- 15:46took a supplement that he saw advertised
- 15:48online that was fraudulently spiked with
- 15:51testosterone this was a complete lie but
- 15:53to back it up melky bought a website
- 15:55from a company for ten thousand dollars
- 15:58then created a fake supplement with fake
- 16:00advertisements to convince mlb he had
- 16:03accidentally bought it online they
- 16:05quickly discovered it was a fraud and
- 16:06suspended him 50 games at this point
- 16:09bosch was in huge trouble he knew this
- 16:11would likely lead to another dea
- 16:13investigation and three of his biggest
- 16:15clients were suspended and no longer
- 16:17wanted his service so bosch needed money
- 16:21to keep his business alive and this is
- 16:23where porter fisher comes in porter
- 16:25fisher was still some random guy who
- 16:27liked tanning and testosterone but
- 16:29around this time he was hit by a car
- 16:32while riding his bike and was rewarded a
- 16:34large amount of insurance money tony
- 16:36bosch found out about this and convinced
- 16:39him to invest four thousand dollars of
- 16:41this money into the clinic an investment
- 16:44bosch never planned to pay back as time
- 16:47went on porter fischer became insanely
- 16:50upset about this he stole all of bosch's
- 16:52files called a miami newspaper and
- 16:54exposed tony bosch and all the athletes
- 16:57he worked with the miami new times used
- 16:59the files porter fisher stole to link
- 17:01melky cabrera bartolo colon yasmani
- 17:04grandahl nelson cruz and alex rodriguez
- 17:07to tony bosch most people are unaware
- 17:09that mlb has something called the
- 17:11department of investigations a group of
- 17:14former high-level ex-law enforcement and
- 17:16intelligence agents which is essentially
- 17:18the fbi of mlb so if there's any
- 17:22problems like a steroid scandal the
- 17:24league can look into the matter
- 17:25themselves mlb immediately sent this
- 17:27department to investigate every player
- 17:30and person involved in the scandal and
- 17:32their main target was alex rodriguez
- 17:35he'd already been busted for peds once
- 17:37and many within mlb wanted to see him
- 17:39banned for life so a-rod used his
- 17:42millions and basically set up his own
- 17:44department of investigations to combat
- 17:46mlb's department of investigations and
- 17:48over the next year the two squared off
- 17:51and broke many laws while doing so mlb
- 17:54and a-rod's first priority was to obtain
- 17:56tony bosh's records and the only person
- 17:59in the world who had these original
- 18:01files was porter fisher abroad's camp
- 18:03offered him ten thousand dollars porter
- 18:06fisher was scared oogie might kill him
- 18:08if he didn't give them the files so he
- 18:10did a-rod took these files and leaked
- 18:12the names of ryan braun and his own
- 18:15teammate francisco cervelli just to take
- 18:18some of the media attention off himself
- 18:20ryan braun was suspended 65 games and
- 18:23said sorry for lying and ruining the
- 18:25urine collector's reputation i wish that
- 18:27i could go back and change things but i
- 18:29don't have that opportunity to do that
- 18:30so
- 18:31i'm just going to do everything mlb also
- 18:33desperately wanted these files but
- 18:35porter fisher knew that giving these
- 18:36files would put his life in great danger
- 18:39from a-rod's camp mlb offered to make
- 18:41porter fischer a full-time employee
- 18:44paying him a thousand dollars a week he
- 18:46said no they offered him an additional
- 18:48ten thousand dollars he said no then
- 18:51they offered him 125 grand he said no
- 18:54again so they went a different more
- 18:57illegal route one day porter fischer was
- 18:59going to take these original files to
- 19:01the florida health department for
- 19:02evidence but before he went he stopped
- 19:05by the tanning salon while porter fisher
- 19:07was in the tanning bed somebody broke
- 19:10into his car and stole the files they
- 19:13then took these stolen files and sold
- 19:15them to mlb for a hundred and twenty
- 19:17five thousand dollars buying storm files
- 19:20that were meant to go to the state of
- 19:21florida for an active investigation
- 19:24seems pretty illegal so the people who
- 19:26sold them these files filmed the
- 19:28transaction and then sold the footage to
- 19:31a-rod so he could have more dirt on mlb
- 19:34but when a-rod got the hard drive it was
- 19:36blank so they basically sold a-rod a
- 19:39blank hard drive for literally hundreds
- 19:42of thousands of dollars at this point
- 19:44a-rod and mlb both have copies of tony
- 19:47bosch's files mlb plan to use them as
- 19:49evidence to give a-rod an extremely long
- 19:52suspension but needed tony bosch to
- 19:54cooperate and confirm to a third party
- 19:57that the files were real to convince him
- 19:59to cooperate mlb investigators bought
- 20:02bosch's girlfriend flowers and shoes
- 20:05they also sued him and said if he did
- 20:07cooperate they would drop the lawsuit
- 20:09average camp did not want this to happen
- 20:11so they offered tony bosch 25 000 a
- 20:14month until the scandal blew over they
- 20:17also were willing to pay him an
- 20:18additional 50 grand to flee the country
- 20:22and live in colombia so there was
- 20:24absolutely no risk of mlb getting him to
- 20:27cooperate a-rod's camp also leaked
- 20:29information to the media that the head
- 20:31of mlb's investigation slept with one of
- 20:34tony bosh's nurses she was a potential
- 20:38witness and this was not a good look and
- 20:40caused mlb to later fire him but before
- 20:44he was fired he was able to get tony
- 20:46bosch to cooperate with mlb bosch turned
- 20:49down all of a rod's money and because of
- 20:52this tony says he received a text most
- 20:55likely from a-rod's camp that said he
- 20:57wouldn't live to see the end of the year
- 21:00tony bosch then basically went on a
- 21:02full-out media tour giving his tell-all
- 21:04story under the direction of mlb he most
- 21:07famously went on outside the lines where
- 21:09he was visibly intoxicated no comment
- 21:13i'm a nutritionist
- 21:15i don't know anything about the
- 21:16performance enhancing drugs i had no
- 21:18idea what i was saying in that interview
- 21:20to be quite honest with you he also did
- 21:2260 minutes and said he had drugs and
- 21:24alcohol waiting for him when he got to
- 21:26his dressing room mlb suspended a-rod
- 21:28211 games the biggest suspension in
- 21:31baseball history but a-rod was not done
- 21:34fighting he appealed continued to play
- 21:37got booed
- 21:40and got hit by pitches that offseason
- 21:42a-rod and mlb went into an arbitration
- 21:45meeting where the two camps would tell
- 21:46their side of the story and an
- 21:48independent party would decide the
- 21:50suspension throughout the hearing up to
- 21:52150 people gathered to protest and even
- 21:55held a candlelight vigil in a-rod's
- 21:57defense the signs were all written in
- 21:59the same black marker and apparently the
- 22:02protest was organized by hispanics
- 22:04across america an organization that
- 22:06reportedly received an anonymous
- 22:08donation for a hundred thousand dollars
- 22:11to protest leading many to speculate
- 22:13that a-rod paid people to show up to
- 22:16support his fight against mlb which
- 22:18didn't go particularly well according to
- 22:20tony bosch a-rod told the arbitrator he
- 22:22thought he was taking an erectile
- 22:24dysfunction medication other reports say
- 22:26his lawyer almost got into a brawl with
- 22:27reporters and got into an altercation
- 22:30with tony bosh's lawyers a-rod was asked
- 22:32to stop after making weird faces towards
- 22:35tony bosch while he was talking and
- 22:37eventually stormed out of the meeting
- 22:39told rob manford he was full of bs went
- 22:42to wfan and famously said this and today
- 22:45i just
- 22:46i lost my mind i banged the table and
- 22:48kicked
- 22:50a briefcase and slammed out of the room
- 22:52and and he doesn't have the courage
- 22:54to come look at me in the eye and tell
- 22:56me
- 22:57this is why i did 211 i shouldn't serve
- 22:59one inning
- 23:01and this guy should come to my he would
- 23:03end up getting his suspension lowered to
- 23:05162 games which is still an mlb record
- 23:09in the end over 15 players would be
- 23:11suspended in relation to tony bosch
- 23:14three of mlb's top investigators were
- 23:16later fired likely because of what they
- 23:18did during this scandal tony bosch
- 23:20himself only received a five thousand
- 23:22dollar fine from the state of florida
- 23:24but then the dea stepped in his chemist
- 23:26and his supplier oogie were sentenced to
- 23:28prison and tony bosch was given four
- 23:30years his sentence has since been
- 23:32reduced and he is now a free man
- 23:34currently he is back in the industry
- 23:36owning a business which he describes as
- 23:38a technology company educating other
- 23:41anti-aging clinics but promises he will
- 23:44never work with another professional
- 23:46athlete again
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