Baronato universitario – Come si truccano i bandi in Italia — Transcript
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- 0:00That the academic situation in Italy is
- 0:01absolute crap, I think even the bananas
- 0:03know that. It’s a war among the poor
- 0:06to scrape the bottom of the barrel, to
- 0:08gain some stability in life where those
- 0:10who succeed have had to walk over 30
- 0:13corpses. If even a professor who is
- 0:15part of a committee to assign a
- 0:16university chair ends up saying
- 0:17something like this,
- 0:19you live in a political mafia. You
- 0:20didn't understand, you must not say
- 0:22anything.
- 0:22I mean, do you understand? This
- 0:24recording is part of an investigation
- 0:25carried out by Mim Manda Rei 3.
- 0:28Obviously, the professor in question
- 0:30didn't know he was being recorded,
- 0:31otherwise we know where he would have
- 0:33shoved this burst of honesty, but he
- 0:35ended up confirming the obvious by
- 0:37openly saying what many poor souls
- 0:39stuck in the academic system have
- 0:40experienced firsthand for way too long.
- 0:44that of the "baronial" university, and
- 0:46you can't get in even if you are very
- 0:47good, even if you are one of the best
- 0:49researchers in the world, and in the
- 0:51end, you find yourself facing...
- 0:54not that we don't know it, it happens
- 0:55in all universities; I know many places
- 0:57that have tried to make things work
- 0:58differently. I say this because I would
- 1:01never want to demoralize anyone who
- 1:03wants to follow this path, but this
- 1:04stuff happens anyway and it creates a
- 1:05huge short circuit that, oh, it hit me
- 1:07too, what do you think? Precisely
- 1:10because I've seen it from the inside, I
- 1:11feel I must say that things are
- 1:12unfortunately not even as easily
- 1:13oversimplified as you might be inclined
- 1:15to think. Sometimes the line between
- 1:17victim and perpetrator is not always
- 1:18clearly defined, you know. And when you
- 1:20are inside, absurdly, you find yourself
- 1:22facing situations that make you say, "I
- 1:24understand why it happens." Since there
- 1:26are so many similar stories, let me
- 1:28tell you an iconic one that I had
- 1:29actually already told you some time ago
- 1:31on social media. He is Antonio Pesce, a
- 1:34Sicilian surgeon who in 2024 applied
- 1:37for a researcher position in Ferrara.
- 1:40During the selection process, however,
- 1:42strange things happened, so much so
- 1:44that Pesce decided to file an appeal.
- 1:46What had happened? Two people
- 1:47participated in the call, Pesce and
- 1:49another person. The committee then
- 1:51evaluates the titles, publications, and
- 1:53experience of the two, and at a certain
- 1:55point, it reaches the oral exam. A 45-
- 1:57minute lecture prepared by the
- 1:59candidates
- 2:00and, in fact, since written and oral
- 2:02exams are excluded by law throughout
- 2:04Italy, I can ask you for a lecture and
- 2:05I can give you a grade because that
- 2:07would be an oral exam.
- 2:08Anyway, this oral exam goes amazingly
- 2:10well for Pesce. 20 points out of 20,
- 2:12they give him the maximum, crazy. The
- 2:16other one gets 17 points, and you say,
- 2:17"Well, then it's done, right, he won."
- 2:19No, because the other guy got more
- 2:21points for his publications. The other
- 2:23guy wins. Oh well, it happens. Maybe he
- 2:25was more qualified than him, right?
- 2:27Maybe he has more degrees, more
- 2:29experience. So you just suck it up and
- 2:31go home. Yeah, too bad it turned out
- 2:35the other candidate was already working
- 2:37with the professor, the very one who
- 2:39signed the committee minutes; they knew
- 2:41each other, worked together—basically
- 2:43, gossipers might say there could be a
- 2:46conflict of interest and the professor
- 2:48wanted him to win. But there is another
- 2:51problem, perhaps even more serious. The
- 2:54other candidate shouldn't have even
- 2:56been in the contest because he lacked a
- 2:58fundamental requirement: 3 years of
- 3:00research at another university. So how
- 3:02did this guy win? And so Pesce files an
- 3:05appeal and wins. The judges wrote: "The
- 3:09illogical and irrational modus operandi
- 3:11of the university, which held a
- 3:13restricted competition without ensuring
- 3:15participation only to those possessing
- 3:18the required credentials, is
- 3:19specifically the subject of the second
- 3:22grievance, the merits of which must
- 3:24lead to the upholding of the appeal."
- 3:27Alright, so everything has to be redone
- 3:28. Fair enough. Pesce enters the
- 3:31competition again, this time he's alone
- 3:33, there are no other candidates, he
- 3:35retakes this cursed oral exam, lecture,
- 3:37whatever you want to call it, and gets
- 3:39zero points. Zero. And you're thinking,
- 3:42"Wait, how did they give him 20 out of
- 3:4420 before for the same test, and now
- 3:46zero?"
- 3:46And he doesn't win in that case either.
- 3:48No,
- 3:48I mean, like, screw you, nobody wins.
- 3:50Oh well, peace, or rather, Pesce. Even
- 3:52if you're the only one participating,
- 3:54you don't win the damn thing. The new
- 3:56committee appointed includes Professor
- 3:59Occhio Norelli, the very one we heard
- 4:01from at the beginning.
- 4:02Italy is full of corrupt people. But
- 4:05you can't change the world because it
- 4:06will never change. They're in charge,
- 4:08and we just say yes because that's how
- 4:10it is.
- 4:10Pesce gets nothing; in fact, he loses
- 4:12everything. He actually held a course
- 4:15called Culinary Medicine right there at
- 4:16the University of Ferrara. Over 300
- 4:19students and great feedback, so a
- 4:21course you could call a success, right?
- 4:23Following the incident, the course was
- 4:25cancelled by the university. We get the
- 4:27reason from the person in charge at the
- 4:29University of Ferrara, as featured in
- 4:30the report on Mi Manda Rai 3.
- 4:33Well, things happened that weren't
- 4:34pleasant, so let's say...
- 4:37It must have been an act of retaliation
- 4:38. No, I'm sure that's just gossip.
- 4:41It was: don't break balls about the
- 4:43contest, even if you come in second,
- 4:45they'll call you in 6 months. Why did
- 4:47you have to go and break balls for 6
- 4:48months? Reporting everything and
- 4:49anything? I don’t know about you, but
- 4:51the fact that this happens, that so
- 4:53many people endure it every day and
- 4:55just take it in silence, gives me such
- 4:57a sense of injustice that it makes my
- 4:59blood boil. Not long ago, I was
- 5:01contacted by lawyer Stefania Flore,
- 5:03spokesperson for "Bandi Università,"
- 5:05who, as she writes on the site, is a
- 5:08post-doc researcher wanting to promote
- 5:10merit in Italian universities and the
- 5:12importance of reporting any injustice
- 5:14suffered during public competitions to
- 5:17the proper authorities, especially
- 5:19through zero-cost actions. What
- 5:21happened to you? What was your
- 5:22experience regarding this? I took a
- 5:24competition at the University of
- 5:25Bologna, which is very renowned and
- 5:27hadn't had a single complaint in 20
- 5:29years. I took this exam; it was for
- 5:32private law, which is my field,
- 5:34specifically the rights of minors
- 5:37online. I specialize in family law, so
- 5:40the minor's rights part was in my field
- 5:43; the online and privacy aspects
- 5:45weren't strictly my specialty. I had a
- 5:49110 [ __ ] laude degree, a specialization
- 5:52with top marks, a PhD, and other things
- 5:55I won't mention. And at the competition
- 5:59, they chose a fresh graduate with a
- 6:02107 and zero publications over me; I
- 6:05had about 20 at the time. It was during
- 6:08the oral exam that they cut me out. I
- 6:11pointed out an undeniable error, which
- 6:13is that they were obligated to give 10
- 6:16points for the degree, but they gave me
- 6:18six. They had committed, in the
- 6:22qualifications assessment report, to
- 6:24giving 10 points to a degree with a
- 6:27private law thesis; so I basically
- 6:29asked to annul the proceedings based on
- 6:31this. Also based on another thing: they
- 6:35had modified or specified, or simply
- 6:37changed, the evaluation criteria when
- 6:39the candidates were already known,
- 6:41which in administrative law, I think
- 6:43everyone knows, you just don't do. Why?
- 6:47Because otherwise, there’s the risk
- 6:49that I let "so-and-so" pass because I
- 6:51see the other person has better
- 6:53qualifications.
- 6:54Oh well, yes, we change the rules of
- 6:55the game mid-stream, right? Because it
- 6:57seems obvious, but in reality, it's not
- 6:59obvious at all because it actually
- 7:00happens. So, what did they do? They
- 7:03annulled everything and re-announced it
- 7:04from scratch, so they opened it up to
- 7:06new participants as well. I wrote a
- 7:09post on LinkedIn, and basically, this
- 7:11post, where I specifically cite the
- 7:12University of Bologna incident, was
- 7:14picked up by a journalist from the
- 7:16Corriere di Bologna.
- 7:18So it suddenly exploded in your hands.
- 7:20And so yes, when we did the second
- 7:21edition of the competition, they knew
- 7:23who I was; they knew I was the one who
- 7:25had appeared in the paper to break
- 7:27their balls. During the oral exam,
- 7:29another colleague starts a controversy,
- 7:31insults the committee members, and
- 7:33basically, a huge mess ensues. Anyway,
- 7:36the point is that I won this
- 7:38competition, and the news blew up
- 7:39nationally right when I won it.
- 7:42As you might have gathered, today we're
- 7:44talking about the university "baronage,
- 7:46" that closed power system created
- 7:48within some universities where
- 7:50professors manage jobs, competitions,
- 7:52and funds in a totally personal way.
- 7:54Often, they reward their own students
- 7:56or their own friends. Professors agree
- 7:58on everything behind closed doors, and
- 8:00the ones who get penalized are always
- 8:02the most qualified candidate or simply
- 8:04the one coming from the outside. This
- 8:05produces the plague of localism, where,
- 8:07according to many, always working in
- 8:09the same place, in the same university,
- 8:10enormously increases the probability of
- 8:12getting a position because you’ve
- 8:14made yourself known, you’ve staked
- 8:15your territory, right? The most
- 8:17immediate way the baronage operates is
- 8:18obviously by controlling the
- 8:20competitions. The tests to become a
- 8:22researcher, associate, or full
- 8:23professor are often decided in advance
- 8:25behind closed doors, sometimes
- 8:27involving a miasma of political games
- 8:29like "You do me a favor now, then I'll
- 8:31do one for you." It’s political stuff
- 8:33that should never involve the
- 8:35university; this also produces a
- 8:36network of favors where, if you want a
- 8:38career here, you must depend entirely
- 8:39on the powerful professor to get ahead.
- 8:42The famous suck-ups, right? People
- 8:44subjected to the professor’s whims
- 8:46who would sell their own mother, or
- 8:47simply those waiting for the old guy to
- 8:49kick the bucket so they can take his
- 8:51place. And it's not even their fault,
- 8:54because in such a system, either they
- 8:56do this or they don't get ahead, and
- 8:57obviously, there’s a loss of merit
- 8:59because, clearly, if I never hire the
- 9:01best, the entire research field loses
- 9:03out, and the best from abroad can't get
- 9:05in here. The best from here, if
- 9:07anything, end up serving abroad, damn
- 9:09it, damn it all. And the result is that
- 9:12so many aspiring academics give up, or
- 9:14if they aren't good at infiltrating
- 9:16this network, they will never find a
- 9:18space. In a climate of fear and
- 9:20precariousness, while waiting for one's
- 9:22turn, it's a total loss of credibility
- 9:24for the research system and the country
- 9:25. And what if I told you that the
- 9:27situation has actually gotten even
- 9:29worse now? Oh, of course it has. The
- 9:32government has approved a bill backed
- 9:33by the Minister of University and
- 9:35Research, Annamaria Bernini, which, in
- 9:37short, legalizes rigged hiring notices
- 9:38—all because the most important thing
- 9:40here is meritocracy. Remember what is
- 9:43going to happen to the Italian academic
- 9:45world now. Ah,
- 9:46doctor, call a doctor.
- 9:48Today, I want to tell you some stories,
- 9:50explain well how this stuff works, and
- 9:52also share all my troubles. I don't
- 9:53know, maybe you don't care about
- 9:55universities or research, what is all
- 9:56this stuff? But hold on, research
- 9:57affects everyone, you know. Even you.
- 9:59Having performed operations with a
- 10:01knife and fork from a diner.
- 10:03Yeah, but I wiped them off with a
- 10:04napkin.
- 10:05And ultimately, this story,
- 10:06unfortunately, also helps us understand
- 10:07how the world works, or at least Italy.
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- 11:49Look, I’ll say it clearly in this
- 11:51chamber: in 40 years, I am not aware of
- 11:54a single competition where the winner
- 11:56wasn't known beforehand.
- 11:59And there isn't a single professor who
- 12:01has ever contradicted me. This is the
- 12:04situation of our universities today.
- 12:07This is senator and microbiologist
- 12:09Andrea Crisanti. The discussion in this
- 12:12case was sparked, was triggered by the
- 12:14situation at the University of Verona,
- 12:15where a competition was won by the son
- 12:17of the then-rector in a classic case of
- 12:19nepotism,
- 12:21a bit too Italian. I don't know if, uh,
- 12:24yeah,
- 12:24but look, if you want similar stories,
- 12:25you're spoiled for choice. Last July,
- 12:27for example, a scandal broke out over a
- 12:29competition at the Magna-Graecia
- 12:30University of Catanzaro, thanks to an
- 12:32investigation by Il Post. On the
- 12:35examining board was Antonio Brunetti,
- 12:36who had a very close relationship with
- 12:38the candidate who eventually won the
- 12:40competition, Maria Mirabelli. Brunetti
- 12:43had in fact been her tutor, had
- 12:45co-signed numerous scientific
- 12:46publications with her, and both were
- 12:48listed as inventors on the same patent
- 12:49regarding a potential treatment for
- 12:51type 2 diabetes. Pretty nice stuff, in
- 12:53short. Maria Mirabelli seems like a
- 12:55sharp person. Cut out for this job. I
- 12:57understand that Antonio Brunetti had
- 12:59every reason to help her win the call
- 13:01for applications. It's something I can
- 13:04at least humanly understand, even if,
- 13:06precisely to avoid such conflicts of
- 13:08interest, maybe it's better not to have
- 13:10a guy on the board who has worked with
- 13:12a candidate, right? Otherwise, who
- 13:14knows who wins this contest. But oh
- 13:16well, one might say let's overlook it,
- 13:18come on. If it weren't for the fact
- 13:19that something even more serious was
- 13:21discovered. To allow Mirabelli to take
- 13:23office as a researcher, they jumped
- 13:25through hoops, defying all the rules,
- 13:27and had her complete her four-year
- 13:29specialization in 3 years. In short,
- 13:32they recognized her activities and
- 13:34credits, so she finished her
- 13:35specialization a year early and could
- 13:36participate in the competition. Damn,
- 13:38they really wanted her to pass, didn't
- 13:41they. And Il Post asked, "Is this thing
- 13:43even legal?" And apparently, it is. Now
- 13:46I am telling you these stories because
- 13:48they are recent and, above all, because
- 13:50on one hand there was an investigation
- 13:51by Il Post, and on the other, a
- 13:53candidate who opposed it and appealed.
- 13:55But do you know how many times these
- 13:57things have happened and continue to
- 13:59happen? How many similar cases there
- 14:01are. Then, obviously, the candidate
- 14:03often doesn't appeal, so we don't find
- 14:05out, but it happens. And by happens, I
- 14:08mean it happens almost always. There
- 14:09are a lot of stories from those who
- 14:11lose.
- 14:12Exactly. Unfortunately, they don't go
- 14:14like that. How the professor's
- 14:17protégé builds their career with many
- 14:20small positions that aren't the ones
- 14:23appearing on the MUR website at a
- 14:26national level, like researchers, PhDs,
- 14:29professors, etc., but with smaller
- 14:32contracts, such as freelance work,
- 14:34adjunct teaching, and research grants.
- 14:40You have to go and scour the websites
- 14:42of about 100 universities, sites that
- 14:44are often poorly made, and so obviously
- 14:46what happens? That this hidden vacancy
- 14:49—because it’s essentially hidden,
- 14:51the State doesn’t deign to create a
- 14:53platform—I thought, let’s make one
- 14:55ourselves, otherwise nobody
- 14:56participates and the person who’s
- 14:58meant to win, wins. In fact, that’s
- 15:00always been the case. But how many
- 15:03reports do you receive, I mean, I don't
- 15:05count them every month. I can tell you
- 15:08that I have filed about 40 complaints.
- 15:12Okay. About 40 complaints, but I think
- 15:14the reports are much more numerous.
- 15:16No, there are certainly many more
- 15:17reports, but consider that not everyone
- 15:19knows about "Band Università," which
- 15:21has only been around for a year and a
- 15:23half, and that people are terrified.
- 15:25And here we come to this new bill.
- 15:27There are a lot of things written in it
- 15:28; I’ll just tell you the most
- 15:29interesting stuff. For starters, there
- 15:31is the abolition of the ASN, the
- 15:33National Scientific Qualification.
- 15:36Until today, the ASN was a sort of
- 15:38national license, a committee of
- 15:39experts that evaluated whether a
- 15:41researcher had sufficient credentials
- 15:43and publications, and was therefore
- 15:45qualified to become an associate or
- 15:47full professor. Think about what it
- 15:51means to reach that position, why
- 15:53it’s so coveted: a salary, a decent
- 15:56amount of money, a real, permanent
- 15:58contract, no more 1-2-3 year vacancies
- 16:00with that devastating instability that
- 16:03most of those who chose this path have
- 16:05had to endure. Well, without the ASN,
- 16:08without this license, you couldn't even
- 16:10participate in local competitions. The
- 16:12Bernini bill wipes everything out,
- 16:13replacing it with a simple
- 16:15self-certification of requirements on a
- 16:17ministerial platform.
- 16:18How do you feel about this?
- 16:19Look, the ASN is corrupt, it’s
- 16:21extremely corrupt. If Bernini had only
- 16:23eliminated the ASN, she would have done
- 16:26something right. So much so that many
- 16:29academics, victims of discrimination,
- 16:32corruption, and so on, seeing this
- 16:35abolition of the ASN, were all happy
- 16:37because they didn't realize it's a
- 16:40decoy. Behind the ASN lies the
- 16:42legalization of discretionary oral
- 16:44exams, which cannot be appealed to the
- 16:46Administrative Court, and the
- 16:48legalization of tailor-made vacancies.
- 16:51The second crucial point is the
- 16:52transition to a new recruitment system
- 16:54based on local evaluation. Competitions
- 16:57will no longer be tied to this national
- 16:59filter, but each individual university
- 17:01will be able to announce them with
- 17:03total autonomy based on its own
- 17:05resources. And that is something not to
- 17:07be taken lightly because it gives much
- 17:08more power to the universities. And the
- 17:11problem here is that if you already
- 17:12know these systems are rotten from
- 17:14within, what’s the point of giving
- 17:15them more power? But perhaps the most
- 17:18criticized thing is that it now gives
- 17:20universities the possibility to
- 17:22describe the required scientific
- 17:24profile in an extremely specific way.
- 17:26In what sense? While grant calls
- 17:28previously covered broad sectors,
- 17:30allowing people with slightly different
- 17:32but eligible experience to apply, it
- 17:34will now be possible to specify very,
- 17:37very narrow research topics. The
- 17:40candidate must have worked in recent
- 17:42years on multifactorial modeling of the
- 17:44evolutionary dynamics of the gut
- 17:45microbiota of cave-dwelling isopods
- 17:47subjected to intermittent hyperbaric
- 17:49stress, and must wear a size 41 shoe.
- 17:52How many people will be interested in
- 17:53this call? Ah, few, maybe just one. Who
- 17:57? That one, precisely him.
- 17:58Hello, I am the very famous Peppe Fed,
- 18:02but look at that, I think this is the
- 18:04most problematic aspect of the Bernini
- 18:06Bill. Absolutely, it is unprecedented;
- 18:10competitions have always been based on
- 18:13a sector, tax law, general surgery,
- 18:16organic chemistry. You went by these
- 18:20sectors. What does this reform do? It
- 18:23narrows the field enormously. And one,
- 18:26let's say, of these examples that I
- 18:28liked the most is that of Antonio Pesce
- 18:29, also because the University of
- 18:31Ferrara sent me a cease-and-desist. I
- 18:33don't know if you know.
- 18:34How did they send you a
- 18:34cease-and-desist, in what sense? They
- 18:36paid a lawyer, chosen who knows how. He
- 18:39assumes that I spread fake news,
- 18:41meaning that the University of Ferrara
- 18:44hadn't broken the law. There's a
- 18:47Regional Administrative Court ruling,
- 18:50anyway, that the competition wasn't
- 18:52illegal, and then he ends by even
- 18:54saying, "Take down the reel," because I
- 18:56had highlighted it. This is pure
- 18:59intimidation. I mean, they told me, "
- 19:01You must be quiet." Period. I obviously
- 19:03brought this to the public prosecutor's
- 19:05attention.
- 19:05I don't think they'll be very happy
- 19:07about this video that's about to come
- 19:08out. Eh,
- 19:09imagine his. Then the oral exam is
- 19:12generalized, that lesson where the
- 19:13candidate must demonstrate their
- 19:15teaching ability, and there would be
- 19:16nothing wrong with that, right? I mean,
- 19:19you have to prove you can teach. Fair
- 19:21enough. Yes. But do you remember the
- 19:23Pesce case? One time they can give you
- 19:2620 out of 20, the next time zero,
- 19:27arbitrarily, for no reason. Why?
- 19:29Because I'm crazy, do you get it? And
- 19:31what do you do? Yeah, what do you do?
- 19:33How do you try to prove you're right?
- 19:34You foolish candidate? You're out of
- 19:36luck. What, do you want to appeal to
- 19:37the administrative court? And how do
- 19:39you prove to the court that you didn't
- 19:40suck during your oral exam? What proof?
- 19:43My word against yours.
- 19:44Good morning, your honor. Good morning,
- 19:46your honor. Also because the
- 19:48administrative court judges cannot
- 19:50substitute their technical and
- 19:51scientific assessment for that of a
- 19:53commission. Who says so? That I don't
- 19:55know. You deserve an 18, a 20, or a 30.
- 19:57Who says so? Some propose recording the
- 20:00exams and making them public. Do you
- 20:02really think they’ll do that? Besides
- 20:03, it isn't even provided for in the
- 20:05bill. So why should I do it? The bill
- 20:07contains other stuff. If you want, you
- 20:08can read it; these are more or less the
- 20:10important points. But was this bill
- 20:11really necessary? They say the reasons
- 20:15for wanting the change were one, to
- 20:17reduce bureaucracy, which is fine, two,
- 20:19to speed up the competitions, which is
- 20:21fine, and three, to retain young
- 20:23researchers, i.e., let's hire them
- 20:25immediately in Italy before they find a
- 20:27position abroad. And four, the goal is
- 20:30to avoid having a candidate judged
- 20:31first at a national level and then at a
- 20:33local level for the same position,
- 20:34again to streamline the whole thing. To
- 20:37me, all of this sounds like an excuse,
- 20:39because I don't see how these things
- 20:41can help. This would be understandable
- 20:44if we didn't all know what the
- 20:45situation is like. It's a bit like
- 20:48giving a syringe of morphine to an
- 20:49addict and saying, "Hey, only inject
- 20:51this in case of a serious injury." And
- 20:53what do you think they’ll do?
- 20:54Straight in the vein. The truth is, why
- 20:58even tell you that this will further
- 21:00legitimize "tailor-made" notices—
- 21:01those calls for applications designed
- 21:03specifically for certain candidates,
- 21:04essentially having the winner’s name
- 21:06already written on them. Joining the
- 21:10voices condemning these injustices are
- 21:12many people holding important roles in
- 21:14academia, like General Pathology
- 21:16Professor Antonella Viola, someone
- 21:18who’s been swimming in this world for
- 21:21a while, who explained to Corriere how
- 21:23discretion, especially in oral exams,
- 21:25has historically been used to favor
- 21:27friends. She even recounts threats
- 21:30received during her career to pressure
- 21:32her into withdrawing from competitions
- 21:34where she was clearly the most
- 21:35qualified. Then there was another
- 21:38competition, this time in Naples, on
- 21:39the day of the lecture, so the oral
- 21:41exam. A member of the commission faked
- 21:44a heart attack. After that, in the
- 21:50following days, I get the usual threat,
- 21:52blah, blah, blah.
- 21:53And then there are unions and
- 21:54associations, all with very negative
- 21:56views. Anyway, it’s worth asking:
- 21:58will the academic world actually become
- 22:00more corrupt, or will it just keep
- 22:02doing its own thing, as it has always
- 22:05done until now?
- 22:06Corruption is only bad if I'm not
- 22:08involved.
- 22:09Yes. But if I'm part of that corruption
- 22:11, I'll defend it.
- 22:13There are studies in the literature on
- 22:15this, such as this one by Battistin,
- 22:16Checchi, and Verzillo, which analyzes
- 22:18the reform that, in 1999, transferred
- 22:20competitions to individual universities
- 22:22. At the end of the 90s, in fact, the
- 22:24minions in Parliament found themselves
- 22:26facing problems similar to the current
- 22:27ones. University hiring competitions
- 22:30were too centralized and too slow. So,
- 22:33with the Berlinguer reform of 1998-1999
- 22:35, the responsibility for competitions
- 22:38shifted from the State to individual
- 22:40universities. The expectation was that
- 22:42universities, knowing their own needs
- 22:44better, would choose better researchers
- 22:46and professors. The study therefore
- 22:49took two groups of academics, those
- 22:51hired before the reform and those hired
- 22:52after the reform, and compared them.
- 22:55Comparing scientific productivity, they
- 22:57found that nothing, there was no
- 22:59statistically significant improvement
- 23:01in the productivity of researchers
- 23:03recruited after the switch to local
- 23:04competitions. In short, decentralizing
- 23:07the competitions did not allow for the
- 23:09selection of better people. The authors
- 23:12sum up and conclude that, in their view
- 23:14, if you completely change the rules of
- 23:15the system but the quality of those
- 23:17recruited doesn't change, perhaps there
- 23:19is a fundamental problem that hasn't
- 23:21been considered. That is, according to
- 23:24the authors, the real problem was not
- 23:26so much the written rules as these very
- 23:28Italian organic mechanisms of personal
- 23:29connections, collaborative networks,
- 23:31academic schools, relationships between
- 23:33professors, and the "baronage." If
- 23:36these mechanisms continue to influence
- 23:38hiring, similar changes will be of no
- 23:40use. Therefore, at the moment, one of
- 23:43the very few things that can actually
- 23:44be done is to continue collecting
- 23:46stories of academic injustice. The more
- 23:49they pile up, the more impossible it
- 23:50becomes to look away from the pile of
- 23:52[ __ ] that is forming. Stories like that
- 23:55of Agnese Rapposelli, a statistics
- 23:56researcher who participated in a
- 23:58competition at the Gabriele D'Annunzio
- 24:00University of Chieti-Pescara. She
- 24:02appealed to the regional administrative
- 24:03court (TAR) because, as usual, the
- 24:05competition seemed quite rigged, and so
- 24:06the competition was annulled. The court
- 24:08found that the commission had exercised
- 24:11its power in an illegitimate manner.
- 24:13One time, they wrote in the evaluation
- 24:15rejecting her that her publications
- 24:16were all on the same subject.
- 24:18It meant they hadn't even read the
- 24:20titles.
- 24:20In another instance, they were even
- 24:22capable of inserting a qualification at
- 24:24the last moment that was not provided
- 24:25for in the call for applications,
- 24:26changing the rules mid-course. The
- 24:29court discovered that the commission
- 24:30had wildly overvalued the winning
- 24:32candidate's participation in a
- 24:33conference.
- 24:35My 4 years were devalued to the same
- 24:37point as attendance at a conference,
- 24:40like in the Fish case, one should redo
- 24:41everything from scratch, right?
- 24:43Rapposelli, however, does something
- 24:44else,
- 24:45this is a struggle, it is a war.
- 24:47She had it, you know? She does what
- 24:49everyone dreams of doing for revenge.
- 24:52The Ocean's Eleven move: she goes to
- 24:54Professor Roberto Benedetti, a
- 24:55professor of economic statistics at the
- 24:57university, and records the
- 24:58conversation they have. According to
- 25:02the accusation, during the meeting, the
- 25:03professor supposedly told her, in short
- 25:05, either you drop the appeal and
- 25:06continue your academic path as we tell
- 25:08you, and without being a pain in the
- 25:09ass. Or, uh, I think you risk
- 25:13permanently compromising your
- 25:14university career. She recorded him,
- 25:17what a satisfaction. The criminal
- 25:19proceedings concluded in the first
- 25:20instance this January. The Court of
- 25:22Pescara convicted Benedetti of
- 25:24attempted extortion. Meanwhile, after
- 25:28the procedure was annulled, Raposelli's
- 25:30position was re-examined and the
- 25:31researcher obtained the academic role
- 25:33she had contested. Supreme. Victory.
- 25:37So all's well that ends well, more or
- 25:40less. Imagine having to end up in court
- 25:42every single time an academic
- 25:43competition is involved. Oh, guys, I
- 25:46have so many stories and testimonies
- 25:48told to me by people close to the
- 25:49situation, folks who went on for years
- 25:51on precarious contracts, promises,
- 25:53waiting for their chance because the
- 25:55professor promised them. Like, come on,
- 25:57you know? I'll sacrifice, I won't get
- 25:59paid for a few months, I'll live on
- 26:01thin air, but then my turn will come.
- 26:04Or on the other side, the lack of funds
- 26:06and not being able to hire people, even
- 26:07if you promised them—which, by the
- 26:09way, that lack of funding is the root
- 26:10cause of it all. Then others who apply
- 26:13for the positions, but are told right
- 26:14away that the spot is already
- 26:15guaranteed, it's already for that
- 26:17person over there. Eh, look, you don't
- 26:18even need to show up. If you want to
- 26:20come, though, go ahead. And there are
- 26:22even some who get calls in the night
- 26:24being told it's better not to accept
- 26:25that position, take my word for it, and
- 26:27then they find out the one who called
- 26:28was the other candidate. Because this,
- 26:31in the end, I told you, in the vast
- 26:33majority of cases, is a war among the
- 26:35poor—between people who want
- 26:36stability after years of precarious
- 26:38work, professors who want a candidate
- 26:40they like, and labs with a pittance of
- 26:42funds and therefore very few positions
- 26:44available. And here we arrive at the
- 26:46crux of the matter. The real reason
- 26:49that makes me say, "Damn it," is that I
- 26:51don't blame the poor soul of a
- 26:53candidate who is favored by the rigged
- 26:55competition, who might have already
- 26:57been working with that professor for a
- 26:59long time on a ridiculous contract or
- 27:01no contract at all, and perhaps has all
- 27:03the skills to continue doing what
- 27:05they've already started, but finally
- 27:07has the chance to see their work
- 27:09recognized—where sometimes they've
- 27:11been told for years, "You'll get the
- 27:13contract, we'll try, I promise." And
- 27:17I'll tell you, I even understand a
- 27:19professor who says, "But I have to put
- 27:20someone in the lab to work with, why do
- 27:21I have to pick them through a
- 27:23competition?""Let me choose who I work
- 27:25with." No, maybe I don't want the one
- 27:27with the most credentials, but the one
- 27:29I work best with, the one with more
- 27:30grit, who’s hungrier, with more
- 27:32motivation. If there’s this guy,
- 27:34right, who I already get along with
- 27:36personally and professionally, with
- 27:38whom I can continue a conversation
- 27:40already started, who I care about and
- 27:42am fond of because he’s shown me that
- 27:44, even if he’s not the best, he
- 27:46really wants to learn and do
- 27:47extraordinary things, why can't I do it
- 27:50? And this is the complexity I was
- 27:51telling you about. These are the two
- 27:52sides, the two faces of the same coin.
- 27:55And I’m telling you this because
- 27:56I’d never want to trivialize the
- 27:57situation. We aren't always talking
- 27:59about rigged job postings to put in
- 28:01incompetent people, even though that
- 28:02happens too. Eh, there’s one
- 28:05professor in particular that I know,
- 28:06who doesn’t know what I was told: he
- 28:08was put there only because two members
- 28:10of the examining committee had two
- 28:12different protégés they wanted to
- 28:13push and, not having reached an
- 28:15agreement, they said: "Fine, we'll take
- 28:16a third one, neither of the two, the
- 28:18other one, that guy, let's take the
- 28:20jerk nobody likes." And this guy just
- 28:22ended up there, get it? Can you even
- 28:24believe it?
- 28:25I mean, you're in the realm of
- 28:27commercialism.
- 28:28But I was saying, in many cases,
- 28:29excluding blatant misconduct, we’re
- 28:31talking about candidates who are pushed
- 28:33because they’re good—maybe not the
- 28:34best in terms of credentials, but
- 28:36that’s relative. So what am I saying
- 28:38then? That it’s okay like this? No,
- 28:40because in the middle there’s
- 28:42nepotism, servility, cronyism, localism
- 28:44, favoritism, all things that this
- 28:46mechanism fuels. And that is why they
- 28:50try to make rules that must apply in
- 28:52every context, and above all, people
- 28:53forget that job postings are long and
- 28:55demanding to deal with, where people
- 28:57invest their hopes. And if you make me
- 29:00waste a ton of time on your shitty job
- 29:02posting, when you’ve already decided
- 29:03that I won’t win it anyway, you
- 29:05won’t hire me, because you’ve
- 29:06already decided who has to win this
- 29:08posting. You’re playing me for a fool
- 29:11twice; you’re making me waste a ton
- 29:12of time and then I get a little
- 29:13depressed and I walk away. That’s why
- 29:15you either respect the rules or we call
- 29:17it quits. Let’s just make it easier,
- 29:19guys, there are two options here, in my
- 29:21opinion, at least. Either we really
- 29:23decide to make job postings transparent
- 29:24, not our clownish legislative bills,
- 29:26or we just get rid of job postings
- 29:27altogether. No, I'm serious, okay?
- 29:29Let's eliminate them. At least when
- 29:31someone needs to enter another person's
- 29:32lab, like, I don't know, a PhD student,
- 29:34a post-doc, let's cut that out. We
- 29:36should do it like they do abroad, like
- 29:38some labs I've worked in. You talk
- 29:40directly to the lead professor for that
- 29:42position, and then they handle it; if
- 29:44they want to hold a call and interview
- 29:45various people, they do that and decide
- 29:47on the best one based on their own
- 29:48standards and research, autonomously.
- 29:51Otherwise, if there’s already someone
- 29:52they like, they just take that person
- 29:53and that’s it. Then, it’s their own
- 29:55problem, eh. If you pick shitty people,
- 29:57your research group will be crap. Your
- 29:59university becomes a sewer. If you pick
- 30:01worthy people, you publish a lot and
- 30:03become an authoritative entity. In
- 30:04short, it’s a system that, at that
- 30:06point, becomes natural selection. You
- 30:08choose the best thing for yourself. Or
- 30:09maybe not.
- 30:10And that is the fundamental
- 30:11misunderstanding. The one doing the
- 30:13hiring is not the professor. This thing
- 30:15, I swear, makes me incredibly,
- 30:17horribly angry. It's the institution
- 30:20that hires, the university, not the
- 30:22professor. The institution has no likes
- 30:24or dislikes. If we open the door to
- 30:27likes and dislikes, then we open it to
- 30:29professional—no, wait, personal—
- 30:31discretion. And then long live the
- 30:34Bernini reform, long live rigged
- 30:35competitions, we aren't talking about
- 30:37anything anymore. When a professor
- 30:40tells you "I want them because I get
- 30:42along with them," it’s almost never
- 30:44tied to scientific or academic merit;
- 30:46it’s very often tied to a question of
- 30:49manipulatability, blackmailability,
- 30:51malleability. If we were in an honest
- 30:55system where people actually evaluate
- 30:58your resume, as can be the case abroad,
- 31:01and evaluate your potential as well,
- 31:04then everything would be great. The
- 31:08problem is that we are in a system that
- 31:10has been super corrupt for 1,000 years.
- 31:13There is an incredible link between
- 31:15politics and universities, which is why
- 31:17it’s unthinkable for me, even in
- 31:18chemistry—if you knew how many
- 31:20reports I have in chemistry, well, I
- 31:22could make a life of it myself. Sure
- 31:24thing, absolutely. It’s right to get
- 31:26rid of the competitions. In my opinion,
- 31:28in Italy, it’s unthinkable, at least
- 31:30until we equip ourselves with good laws
- 31:32.
- 31:33In short, I honestly don't know what
- 31:35the best solution is. I only know that
- 31:36this is what is happening right now.
- 31:38What I’m saying is, just make up your
- 31:40minds and stop jerking people around.
- 31:42Damn it!
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