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0:00So, some people are telling us that the
0:02riots in France are just about to do
0:04with school policies.
0:06Mhm, no. This is about something that's
0:09been bubbling under the surface for a
0:12long time. I mean, otherwise, how else
0:15do you explain these kaffiyehs and
0:17Palestinian flags and communist flags at
0:19these protests? Um, I will now show you
0:21a clip from Ayaan Hirsi Ali, a a former
0:24Muslim who was uh faced uh significant
0:27abuse
0:28uh at the hands of Islamists and is now
0:31a
0:32you know, a massive advocate for
0:34speaking out against this kind of
0:35extremism. This is from a clip of her
0:37interview with a friend of mine, Stephen
0:39Edgington. Um, I'll put the link to the
0:41full thing in the video description.
0:42Have a watch where she speaks about
0:45these riots happening right now in
0:46France.
0:47>> Let's talk about events in France. There
0:48is riots, there is protests. How do you
0:52analyze what's going on today?
0:54>> Well, I think the most important thing
0:56is that we're looking at a state,
0:59a government that has abdicated its role
1:03as a state. Uh, there's a breakdown of
1:05law and order and the French government
1:07seems to be unwilling or incapable of
1:11maintaining that law and order.
1:13And for much longer in France, it looks
1:17like there's also a broken social
1:18contract because the French um citizens
1:22were voting for things
1:25uh over many decades that the French
1:27government was not providing.
1:29And they
1:30I mean, citizens are law-abiding, they
1:32pay their taxes, um they do what
1:34citizens are supposed to do. And in this
1:37case, it's the government uh that's not
1:39meeting its obligations. And it's not
1:41just France, to be fair to France. Many
1:43Western nations seem to have decided uh
1:47that they want to become a nuisance to
1:49the citizens
1:51uh and and abdicate their roles as
1:53maintainers of law and order.
1:55>> I like the way she's putting that, by
1:57the way, because
1:58many of the leaders of the West would
2:00say, you know, we are being kind to all
2:03our citizens, and we are standing up for
2:05our citizens. And actually, she's
2:07saying, "No, no, you're not acting in an
2:08upstanding, decent way. You are being a
2:10nuisance to our citizens by caving to
2:14these mobs, to these extremists."
2:16Absolutely right. And bullying people,
2:18by the way, into thinking that when they
2:19say, "Hey, this is wrong," that they are
2:21somehow, you know, hard-right fanatics,
2:23whereas a day or two ago, they'd just be
2:25seen as sane, sensible people that want
2:26to have, you know, a functioning
2:27society.
2:28>> These protests, so-called protests,
2:31began, allegedly again, over the issue
2:33of schooling, lack of teachers,
2:38poor school infrastructure, things like
2:40that. And this is what the BBC and Sky
2:42News keep
2:43keep telling us and keep reporting is,
2:45you know, all of these people are out
2:46there because, apparently, they're not
2:47happy with their teacher.
2:49>> Yeah.
2:50Yeah.
2:50>> Now, I suspect that that analysis may be
2:53wrong, and something there's something
2:55deeper going on here. We see a lot of
2:57the protesters and rioters are from
2:59particular migrant backgrounds, but also
3:01you've got these kind of far-left white
3:03French people agitating, too. Can you
3:05talk about sort of where those two
3:07things conflict? Do you think that this
3:10is because of their migrant or religious
3:12faith that's that's going on here? And
3:14also, what about the far left and the
3:16kind of white people that that are
3:17agitating, too?
3:18>> It's all of the above. And again, to go
3:21back to the role of the French
3:23government, things that you know,
3:25failing schools and the like, this is
3:27again the role of the government. And
3:28the government fails at what it's doing,
3:31therefore provoking some kind of
3:32protest. And I want to believe that yes,
3:35there were students going out there to
3:37protest for what they believe are their
3:39rights, and they have every right to do
3:41that.
3:42But very quickly, these protests were
3:44then hijacked by these organized groups,
3:46yes, on the far left. And we've seen
3:49Antifa groups, uh
3:51communist groups, people who are funded
3:52from abroad.
3:54And then there are also the Islamist
3:55groups,
3:57the Islamist or the Muslim groups that
4:00they have um, in France that are
4:03anti-state, are the Muslim Brotherhood.
4:05So, you have Muslim Brotherhood
4:07mobilized folks out there. You've seen,
4:11uh,
4:12you know, the protests started with
4:15"We don't have enough teachers and there
4:17are cockroaches all over the class and
4:19we don't have enough resources." But now
4:21you have the Palestinian flag being
4:25waved everywhere and the Antifa flags
4:27and communist flags. And I've seen some
4:30of the news clips showing
4:32people who are protesting who are
4:34saying, "We're anti-nationalism.
4:37>> [snorts]
4:37>> We're anti-the nation-state." And you
4:39have to wonder and ask yourself, what
4:41has any of this got to do with the
4:43schools or whatever the reason was that,
4:46uh, we had these protests emerge in the
4:48first place.
4:50So, it's a broken state. It's a state
4:51that's not serving its citizens, is not
4:54capable of maintaining law and order,
4:56and is allowing these organized groups
4:59to rampage, to loot, to tear down
5:02things. I mean, I saw an old couple that
5:05was stripped to their bare bones.
5:07Um, I've seen
5:09on social media pictures of saying,
5:12"Look, everything is broken. People's
5:14homes have been broken into. Shops have
5:16been broken into." Uh, you've seen in
5:18Limoges uh,
5:20city hall tower that comes down.
5:23Statues have been defaced. Uh, but
5:25apparently no mosques have been
5:27attacked. Uh,
5:29so people the French people on social
5:32media
5:33uh, are not relying on mainstream news
5:36outlets to tell them about what's going
5:37on. They're exchanging in real time what
5:40is going on. And it looks like there's a
5:42great deal of anarchy, but there's a
5:44state that's perfectly capable of
5:46stopping the anarchy and that's not
5:47doing it. Just a few years ago, France
5:49was put into, I think, a state of
5:51emergency is what it's called because of
5:53the spate of terrorist attacks they had.
5:56Those laws are still in place.
5:58And I think soon after we had COVID,
6:00where everyone was put in lockdown. So,
6:02if you ask the question, is the
6:04government of France capable of
6:06restoring order? Yes, they are capable
6:08of restoring order, but they're choosing
6:10not to do.
6:11And this then
6:13uh
6:13leads to the question, why not?
6:16>> You talk about the state of France and
6:19whether the government can restore
6:20order. My question is, can another
6:24apparatus, as it were, restore order?
6:26And that is the mosques. And would they
6:28want to do that? Could this sort of
6:29Islamic network, the Islamic influence
6:32in France, say, "Look, rein it in,
6:34guys." to these young, angry Moroccans
6:37and Algerians, and so on, if they wanted
6:39to? How are the mosques impacting the
6:42social unrest and violence?
6:44>> Well, it depends, again, on what it is
6:46that they're negotiating with the
6:49government in place, but also with some
6:51members of the opposition.
6:53And
6:55I've seen in other countries that what
6:57they demand is, for instance, that um in
7:00Britain, in Islam, that Islamophobia is
7:02made into a thing, that they want some
7:04kind of legislation to ban any criticism
7:07of Islam.
7:08Um they want perhaps to build more
7:10mosques, create an even bigger
7:12infrastructure. They want some
7:15sort of state power themselves, or to
7:17participate in state power.
7:19And if that's the negotiation, you know,
7:21we are going to put we'll stop we can
7:23stop the chaos, and we we will stop it
7:26if you give us what we want. Um what I
7:29think you've also seen in different
7:31parts of Europe, but we're seeing it in
7:33New York,
7:34is um
7:35it's
7:37a threat to the quality of life
7:40of the Jewish communities.
7:43Um so in France that could be one of
7:45their demands that they see the
7:48government of France
7:50um
7:51they want to influence the foreign
7:53policy of the government of France so
7:54that
7:56we've seen Macron say silly things about
7:58the two-state solution and
8:00>> [clears throat]
8:01>> you know, make a fool of himself on the
8:03international um
8:06arena
8:08by saying some negative things about
8:09Islam. That's all to appease
8:12um the organized Muslim Brotherhood
8:16groups that are being mobilized now
8:18against uh French citizens.
8:21Uh the but the question again is
8:24I think that the government of France
8:27has got enough resources to dismantle
8:30the Muslim Brotherhood infrastructure
8:32and to remove them from the country. The
8:34question any normal citizen would have
8:35is why are they not doing that? Even the
8:38communist groups and the antifa groups
8:40that are funded from outside the
8:42country, the government of France is
8:44capable of taking these people on. Why
8:46are they not taking them on?
8:49>> It doesn't seem that there are clear
8:50political demands of these rioters. It
8:53just looks to me and to many people
8:55looking at the videos and so on, these
8:57are just people who want to riot, who
8:59want to loot because they can or they're
9:01bored or they don't have anything else
9:03to do. And if you said to them, "We'll
9:05give you these concessions even on Islam
9:08>> Mhm.
9:08>> even on Gaza, even on Algeria, even on
9:11whatever. Um
9:13there's no there's nothing to suggest
9:14that that would necessarily appease
9:16these people. So, how does one deal with
9:17people with young, mostly men, who just
9:20want to riot and loot mindlessly?
9:24>> Um there's enough plenty of social
9:26science literature that does suggest
9:30that
9:31there's something thrilling uh and
9:33entertaining and recreational about
9:36rioting and looting. Young men engaged
9:38in that sort of activity. And again, it
9:42brings us down to the role of
9:45government. And the most important role
9:47of government is to maintain order.
9:49And to protect the country that is
9:53governed from, you know, external
9:55threats and maintain domestic order. So,
9:58even if, yes, indeed, there are lots of
10:01men who just thrill on the fact of doing
10:04doing these things,
10:05it's the government that's supposed to
10:08manage that and is supposed to give
10:11these young men some kind of lawful
10:13orientation. And those who break the law
10:16should be charged and prosecuted and
10:20maybe some of them sent to prison. It
10:22doesn't matter. It brings us again and
10:25again back to the role of the
10:26government. And here we have this weird,
10:29and it's been going on for a number of
10:30years now, where governments
10:33uh
10:35uh not doing what they're supposed to be
10:37doing. Again, a violation of the social
10:40contract. They're a nuisance. They tax
10:42people ever more and they fine people,
10:45law-abiding people, on tiny infractions.
10:49Um they regulates
10:52I'm
10:53hate to use the word the hell, but they
10:55regulate the hell out of small
10:56businesses and medium-sized businesses.
10:59Um
11:00you know,
11:01make life hard and sometimes impossible
11:04for law-abiding citizens. But then they
11:07allow all this disorder.
11:09And so there's just something really
11:10strange about this
11:14you know, these governments of France
11:17and other Western countries.
11:19>> The question is why France? It's not
11:21happening in Britain in the same way,
11:23anyway. We're not seeing widespread
11:25rioting constantly from uh immigrant
11:28background communities. We've seen some
11:30in Leicester. We've seen some after the
11:32Southport riots, we saw the Muslim
11:34community respond in Birmingham and
11:36other places, but on this level and this
11:38scale and this
11:40sort of timeline, I guess, this you
11:43know, this it's been going on for so
11:44long in France, why is it going on why
11:47is it happening in France and not in
11:48Britain or Germany or other places?
11:50>> I can't give you an answer for that. I
11:52can only guess.
11:54As you said, we have seen some rioting
11:56and some civil strife in happening in
12:00the UK.
12:01I've also had some commentators in
12:04Britain saying it's only a matter of
12:05time. It is going to happen in
12:08the UK as well. If you look at the
12:10circumstances that led to the riots in
12:13France, they're all present here. There
12:15is a presence in of far-left organized
12:19groups, a huge organized
12:23Muslim Brotherhood and other Islamist
12:25groups in Britain.
12:27There is
12:30disaffection
12:31among
12:33British young men
12:35towards their government. And you have
12:37also a government in Britain that is not
12:40just like the one in France,
12:42really
12:46I mean, so far I haven't seen it, but it
12:48is a government that might not be
12:52too keen on maintaining order. So, all
12:54the ingredients for disorder are present
12:57in Britain.
12:58>> So, listen carefully to what she said.
13:00The governments in Europe and across the
13:02West, they could
13:05tackle this. They could get a grip of
13:06these things, but they're not. And she
13:08keeps going back to that question of,
13:10but I just can't understand why it's
13:11happening. Why is this happening?
13:14Why is Macron and other European
13:17leaders, why are they more focused on
13:19bullying Israel about a two-state
13:21solution and caving in than their own
13:23issues of extremism?
13:26I think the answer is actually quite
13:28obvious.
13:30They have been convinced that
13:34the moral
13:36uh
13:37paradigm that they have to adopt
13:40appeases the leftist. It is in fact many
13:43ways
13:44agrees with, shares the leftist
13:46worldview that basically says
13:48that Europe, the West is fundamentally
13:51guilty and therefore
13:55has to
13:56give away everything
13:58to
13:59the jihadists, the Muslims, uh the
14:01Islamists. They uh they have to give
14:04everything away to uh the radical
14:06leftists who who say that the West is
14:09fundamentally flawed.
14:12That they basically cannot do anything
14:14that is tough
14:16because they're guilty.
14:19And they can't be cured of that.
14:22And I think France in particular has
14:24that mindset. Don't forget the
14:26foundations of the French Revolution
14:28really were
14:30atheistic and and uh
14:32um
14:34base just had a materialist worldview
14:36and therefore
14:38I I actually see part of that as why
14:40Britain and America is a little bit
14:41little bit less susceptible, a bit
14:43delayed in succumbing to this. But never
14:45nevertheless, it's still happening.
14:48They really do think and it is it almost
14:51seems to me, I fear,
14:53an incurable uh
14:55mind disease that they basically cannot
14:59see right from wrong and instead they
15:01just basically say uh that whoever they
15:05deem to be the good one and the bad one,
15:07regardless of what they do,
15:10uh they remain uh either good or bad.
15:13So, in this case, the rioters, the
15:15leftists, the jihadists, uh they must
15:17always be good and the uh um
15:21you know, the the pro-Westerners or the
15:23Zionists, they've decided, etc., they
15:25must be bad. I just want to show you
15:26this image to show you just how serious
15:29this is, this uh mind virus. Okay? This
15:32is from Le Louvre. What did they post?
15:35They posted a tweet saying, "Dear
15:37visitors, due to a student social
15:39movement,
15:41the museum is closed for the time being.
15:43We apologize for the inconvenience
15:44caused."
15:46Fascinating. A student social movement,
15:48eh?
15:50A student social movement.
15:54Brilliant.
15:55>> [laughter]
15:56>> This is what I'm saying, that that that
15:59head being buried in the sand to reality
16:01is because they're stuck in this
16:04world view.
16:06This woke philosophical
16:09leftist world view
16:11that can see no ultimate good in their
16:14in the Western pro-Western side, and
16:17must always excuse this kind of behavior
16:19as really because we're the guilty ones
16:21ultimately.
16:23It's insane.
16:24That's why it's happening.
16:26And that's why the country these
16:28countries aren't getting a grip on it
16:29because they think we can't we don't
16:30really have the moral right to.
16:32And therefore,
16:34the only resolution, if this if there
16:36can be a resolution to this, is that
16:39our leaders
16:41in the West
16:43actually come to terms with what is
16:45right and wrong, what is true and false,
16:47both historically and morally.
16:50I remember learning from one of my
16:51rabbis that the ultimate way in which
16:54one can conquer sin
16:57is by
16:58concluding intellectually, rationally,
17:01that it is not desirable. That it's not
17:04good. It's not right. It's not in any
17:06way going to reward you by doing that
17:08sin. And therefore, once you realize
17:10that, once you realize this is just
17:13completely wrong and of no benefit, it
17:15loses its power.
17:17For long as long as Western leaders
17:19think, "Mhm, they kind of have a point.
17:21We kind of are the bad ones." They're
17:22going to keep caving to this.
17:24Or that they think, "Well, it's just not
17:26right to put in strong boundaries and
17:28measures."
17:29Even Israel, by the way, historically
17:32has been affected by this kind of
17:34appeasement mindset.
17:36I actually did an interview with
17:38Professor Gad Saad and this is a couple
17:41months ago and in our bonus section we
17:42spoke about how Israel itself has
17:45suicidal empathy. Has, you know, made
17:48mistakes historically and still today,
17:50much less so if certainly than the West,
17:53be in no doubt.
17:54But that is something that I think is
17:57just pretty clear. We also discussed
17:58this in one of our documentaries.
18:02Our documentary called The Oslo Trap
18:04about how the Oslo Accords, which Israel
18:07signed up to, basically led them to
18:11adopt this false paradigm that somehow
18:14there are two equal competing claims,
18:16the Israelis and the Palestinians.
18:18But of course it's nonsense. And this
18:21explains how Israel got stuck in a cage
18:23as a result of signing that and how
18:24Israel can finally escape it. But
18:26there's
18:27actually one more film that we've got on
18:29JTV Plus that I do want to mention to
18:31you,
18:32which Ayaan Hirsi Ali touched on this
18:35very subject, which is the whole the two
18:37state solution thing. People are
18:38constantly, you know, in the West
18:40bashing Israel's head saying, "You got
18:41to go back to that." Well, that is based
18:44on a lie. It's based on a false
18:46paradigm, false premise. And from that a
18:49whole false morality has emerged.
18:52Exact same pattern what we're seeing
18:54with Western leaders.
18:55But it stems from lies.
18:57And the fundamental lie that needs to be
18:59understood and unpacked is the whole
19:01notion of a Palestinian nation with a
19:04right and even a a genuine concern for
19:07self-determination. It's nonsense.
19:10And we made a film about this, which
19:11shows to you, goes through the history
19:14up until today and shows you in black
19:15and white how this happened and how
19:18people fell for it.
19:20How it was created cynically just to try
19:22and get the world
19:25rallied against Israel. The film's
19:27called The Invention of the
19:28Palestinians. Have a watch of the
19:30trailer. If you want to watch it in
19:31full, just click on the link below in
19:33the video description.
19:35The Palestinians.
19:39We have been told they are an ancient
19:41people fighting for their homeland which
19:43has been stolen from them.
19:47This narrative has fueled decades of
19:49conflict painting Israel as an occupier
19:52of stolen land.
19:54But what if this identity is not of an
19:56ancient nation, but a modern cynical
19:59invention?
20:01A political construct designed not to
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20:07In this JTV Plus documentary, we're
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