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0:07All right. So, as we are coming online
0:10and going live, uh we'll give just a
0:12moment for uh for things to get caught
0:14up here.
0:17>> Mario's in the audience.
0:19>> Oh, right. He's never um I have to
0:23make him a panelist.
0:38Sorry about that, Mario. I just promoted
0:40you to panelists, so you should be
0:41coming online here in just a moment. Uh,
0:43we've got not only some familiar names
0:46in the audience, we've got some friends
0:47in the audience. This is great. So,
0:49hello Arlene. Hi Debbie, hi Janet. Um,
0:52hi Jean. Um, and then I don't know if I
0:55know uh Gan W, so that'll be good. We'll
0:57get a chance to meet somebody new in the
0:59community. Um, so let's get started. Uh,
1:03our agenda tonight is going to be uh
1:05largely focused on we'll do a couple of
1:07catchup items um because we've had uh
1:10some time off uh since with the summer,
1:12which was which was nice. Um uh so we'll
1:15do a couple of catch-up items just in
1:17terms of some updates. Uh we're going to
1:18focus our time today specifically on a
1:20resolution uh in support of uh the
1:23formation of a business improvement
1:25district for Greater Ust Street. Uh
1:27we'll talk a little bit more about the
1:29details there some of the activity
1:30that's happening. Um as I mentioned to
1:32the committee members as we were coming
1:34online, but I will re uh reiterate with
1:36the um uh the audience. I've had a
1:39number of meetings with the uh the bid
1:41organizers. Frank was at a meeting um
1:43last week or two weeks ago uh with them.
1:45So, we we've got lots and lots of
1:47information to share. I had asked if
1:48they could join us tonight. Um, but I
1:50also know with this being the you know,
1:52kind of the close of summer, a lot of
1:54folks are away uh and not available. So,
1:56um uh you know to some extent I'll I'll
1:59try to answer the questions uh that
2:01we've got and share the updates that we
2:03have on the bid and if they do join us
2:05then we'll um be able to ask them
2:07directly. Um the other item that we're
2:09going to talk uh briefly about is uh the
2:11neighborhood uh neighborhood management
2:13authority um bill uh which is now
2:16scheduled for a hearing on September
2:1824th. Uh we had two separate meetings uh
2:22when that bill was first um uh released
2:24which was January of 2025. We had two
2:27very very long very u detailed uh
2:31discussions on the neighborhood
2:32management authority and on the bid
2:34February and March of 24. for anyone who
2:36wants to go back and rewatch those
2:38videos or reread those minutes. Um, you
2:41know, that that might be helpful
2:42information. Um, but the the bill is now
2:45getting a hearing. I should mention that
2:46David Manny from the council members
2:48office uh and an important author of
2:51that neighborhood management authority
2:52bill attended both of those meetings and
2:54and was very helpful in answering
2:56questions and representing the council
2:58members uh position uh during those two
3:00conversations. Um, but that bill is now
3:02uh getting a hearing in the
3:04transportation committee. one of two
3:06committees that it was referred to by
3:08the chair. Uh and so we'll talk a little
3:11bit more about, you know, that that uh
3:13bill and the timeline and next steps uh
3:16and kind of go from there. Are there any
3:19other items that are on folks mind right
3:22now? Uh if there aren't, I'm just going
3:25to do a quick summary of some of the
3:26outstanding items just so we're closing
3:28the loop. Um if you've got any anything
3:30else that you want to add uh committee
3:31members just you know uh put your hand
3:34up and then members of the audience if
3:35you've got items that you want to make
3:37sure that we're paying attention to or
3:38tracking uh also you know please put
3:40your hand up. Um go ahead Krishna. Yeah,
3:44I'm sure uh everyone saw uh Pavville had
3:49done an update on the gas station at at
3:5215th and you which uh uh which I don't
3:56think technically is in our ANC but
3:58obviously is right next door to us and I
4:01was pretty disappointed to hear that it
4:03would stay as a gas station. I think it
4:06sh says a lot about the real estate
4:08market in our area and the challenges uh
4:12that we will be facing. Um just on that
4:15note, Matt, I just wanted to ping you.
4:18Where are we on 1617?
4:21Um is is do we have any updates there?
4:24Have you have we heard anything? I know
4:26it's not likely that anything will be
4:28coming up in the next few months, but I
4:29just wanted to make sure we talked about
4:31that for two seconds.
4:32>> Yeah. No, I'm glad you raised it. Um uh
4:35let me maybe start with with what you
4:37had shared about the um the Popville
4:39article for for folks who are um joining
4:41us. If you've not read that uh it is
4:44absolutely worthwhile. Um I would
4:46encourage you to to read it and Krishna
4:48I'm glad that you read it and brought it
4:49up. Um I think a lot of folks have been
4:51tracking the the gas station. It used to
4:53be I think a Senokco uh on the
4:56souththeast corner of that intersection
4:59at U and 15th. Um so moved out. they
5:03they tore out all of the uh gas tanks uh
5:05and the uh the gas, you know, gas
5:07station equipment. Um what the article
5:09said is that, you know, they were
5:10required to turn return the land back to
5:12the owner in its original condition and
5:15to prevent any kind of issues with like
5:16gasoline leaks or uh you know,
5:19ecological issues. You know, it has to
5:21get cleared out. Um and so I think
5:22that's one of the first things that
5:24caught people's attention about the fact
5:25that wow, this you know, is really going
5:27to be changing uses. Um, and the intent
5:30was, uh, as the article states, the the
5:32owner of the property was looking
5:34forward to selling it, um, uh, to
5:36develop it into, uh, into mixeduse, uh,
5:39residential and, uh, I would anticipate
5:42given the zoning right there to go up,
5:44you know, uh, 10, 11, um, floors or or
5:47at least seven or eight floors. Um, and,
5:50uh, and essentially what they what they
5:52reported out was that, uh, all the
5:55factors that this committee has been
5:56talking a lot about. um the the high
5:59cost of uh of capital, so interest rates
6:02still being elevated, building costs
6:04still being very high, softening demand
6:06generally in uh in Washington DC. Um and
6:10then very specifically actually
6:12referencing that um uh the cap the folks
6:16that have capital to invest in multif
6:18family development are at least for the
6:20time being steering clear of investing
6:22in Washington DC. Um and so you know the
6:26reason I wanted to pause a little bit
6:27and talk about those factors is that
6:30those are actually the exact same
6:31factors that we have been talking about
6:33with um Daniel Lions uh at Demped as it
6:37relates to advancing 1617 US street
6:40development where you know one of the
6:42things that he has said routinely is
6:44that uh although it you know remains in
6:46focus there are so many factors right
6:49now that are weighing against action at
6:521617 um all of the same ones that we
6:55just talked about rel relative to the
6:56gas station. Um that you know
6:58development just isn't something that uh
7:01that's you know on the near horizon. Um
7:03to close out the the gas station story
7:05uh what's going to replace the old gas
7:07station is a new gas station. So
7:09apparently uh they were able to do a
7:12deal with a gas station operator who saw
7:14that as a uh a great place to put a gas
7:16station with a proven track record. And
7:18so the development I know a lot of us
7:20were hoping to see is is not going to
7:22materialize at least for probably the
7:24next 10 years uh because these things
7:26tend to to run in in 10-year lease
7:28waves. Um so we'll we'll keep tuned. Um
7:32Krishna to directly answer your question
7:33and maybe to uh I know we've got folks
7:36on the call who specifically pay
7:37attention to that uh that particular
7:39property. Um the last conversation that
7:42I had with Daniel was uh uh back in
7:44June. Um, one of the things that he and
7:47I try to do is to connect every, you
7:49know, kind of 60 to 90 days. And so, you
7:51know, this meeting tonight and your
7:53question, um, prompts me to get, you
7:54know, back on the calendar with him
7:56sometime in mid midseptember. And, uh,
7:58I'm going to ask you to join that call
8:00so that you can, you know, you and I can
8:01both talk to him and and be listening
8:03together. Um but what he had said in the
8:06last call is that given the district's
8:08current financial uh status uh which is
8:12you know o overexpended at this point
8:15and uh given that the the the resources
8:18both kind of um financial but also all
8:21the agencies of the city are being
8:23directed at major activities around the
8:26stadium sites including the commander
8:28stadium um on the on the Anacostia but
8:32also to the uh the capitals that was
8:34Capital One Arena renovations. Um that
8:37this was just not something that he saw
8:40moving uh before the end of the current
8:42mayor's term. Um so again, we just keep
8:45paying attention to it, but at this
8:47point uh all the logistics of that site
8:50plus the commitment of the city to other
8:52priority projects, plus the development
8:55challenges that we talked about a moment
8:56ago, um 1617 uh is not moving uh
9:00quickly. Uh, and honestly what happens
9:02is I check in with Daniel um every 60 to
9:0590 days and he says uh honestly there's
9:08nothing coming for the next 60 to 90 but
9:10let's touch base in 60 to 90 and see if
9:12there's anything that's changed.
9:16So apologies for the long-winded answer.
9:18Um but did that answer your question?
9:21>> Yep.
9:21>> Okay, great.
9:25Arlene, uh go ahead.
9:31And Arlene, you're on mute if you're
9:33trying to talk.
9:33>> Oh,
9:33>> there we go. Sorry about that. Yeah, I I
9:36just thought I would add to that 1617 UT
9:38street update. Um I think I've mentioned
9:40this before that there are three appeals
9:44of the zoning commission's decision on
9:46that site um in progress right now. So
9:50um I guess there was a bit of a lull. We
9:52filed those appeals back on May 15th and
9:55there was probably a bit of a lull
9:57during the summer months, but it looks
9:58like the court is um is back on track
10:02and um moving forward with with those
10:04appeals. So, just that's another kink in
10:08in that whole um 1617 street site.
10:12>> Yep. Great. No, thank you for that
10:13update. um uh I think it was you had
10:16shared that that update with me in the
10:18in the spring and and
10:20any kind of appeal that goes outside the
10:22agency and actually through the courts
10:25um can take quite a long time. So um
10:27thank you for the update and uh
10:29>> uh it's good to hear the the progress
10:31and that it's you know kind of moving
10:32through the through the pipeline but
10:34that's helpful to hear.
10:35>> Yeah. And and Christian I think you had
10:36asked what other um what were the other
10:38two groups that were appealing and I'm
10:40sorry I don't think I answered you. Um
10:43it's the Dupont Circle Citizens
10:45Association and the Black Neighbors of
10:471617 U Street and the third one is my
10:51neighbors. Um basically the neighbors
10:54within 200 feet of the site. So those
10:56are
10:56>> and that's what and that's what your
10:58guys are calling yourself, right?
10:59They're like the 200 foot people. Well,
11:01no, actually we're we're I I don't quite
11:04understand all the nuances of this, but
11:06um my group is um appealing prosay,
11:10which means we're doing it individually,
11:15but um we're not an official group. I'm
11:20not quite sure. [laughter]
11:21>> Something like that, but but basically
11:23it's um those three groups. Yeah.
11:26>> Great.
11:28Super, Arlene. Thank you. Um, Janet, I
11:30saw your hand up as well. Go ahead.
11:32>> Yeah, thanks. So, also kind of regarding
11:351617, Demped has listed as a real estate
11:39project 1325 S Street Northwest. I'm not
11:45sure which ward that's in, but the
11:48update says site is being held in
11:50reserve for potential use by district
11:53facilities now at 1617 Ust Street. I'd
11:56like to know more about that if you talk
11:59to when you talk to Daniel. And I don't
12:01it might not be in W one even. I'm not
12:03sure.
12:03>> Uh 25.
12:05>> Yep. I actually I was pulling up a map
12:07and then as you were talking I know
12:08exactly what it is because I read
12:10something similar and I had already gone
12:12to Google Maps. Um so for for folks who
12:15are um not familiar with that particular
12:17site 1325 street um that is actually a
12:20uh DC Department of Parks and Recreation
12:23storage facility. M
12:25>> um so it is probably 30% uh a two an
12:29older kind of 1950s
12:321960s style brick uh brick building um
12:35that houses combination of warehouse and
12:37some kind of office space and then
12:39twothirds of that site is an outdoor
12:42surface parking lot uh where things like
12:44the DPR mobile stage um you know is is
12:47kept and and other kind of DPR
12:49equipment. So that's interesting. Um
12:52interesting to hear uh that that is that
12:54would be in in um W 2.
12:57>> Uh and so uh interesting to hear that
13:00that was that was uh part of what you
13:02read. So we will ask um Daniel about
13:05that um and uh and report back at our
13:07next meeting.
13:08>> Right.
13:09>> Actually that might still be in W one.
13:14>> It is it is W one.
13:16>> That is still W one I think. When does
13:19when does the border go back up to you?
13:20Is that at 14th?
13:22>> That's
13:23>> Yeah.
13:24>> Okay.
13:25>> Yeah. So then it would be
13:27>> Yeah.
13:31>> Got it. Yep. It would be at the very uh
13:33uh the very southern edge of the um uh
13:36of the ward. Okay. Um other couple of
13:41quick updates. So, uh, we did hear our
13:43committee heard from, uh, CSG Urban
13:46Partners, uh, who is the lead developer
13:48on the Reeves Center site, uh, at our
13:51meeting in June. The ANC voted on a
13:54letter of support, uh, and also, uh, you
13:57know, asked that, uh, the development
14:00occur as quickly as is feasibly
14:02possible. Um, uh, recognizing that that
14:05site today is really non-contributing to
14:07the area. Um we heard a little bit more
14:10I don't think a lot of new information
14:11from what CSG team shared with us in
14:14June. Um but just to kind of confirm a
14:16couple of of details. One is that the
14:18the parcel is essentially going to be
14:19split into two different uh activity
14:22areas. One on the south, one on the
14:24north. Uh the north is going to be uh
14:26largely um mixed use with a focus on
14:28residential and the south is going to be
14:31uh mixed use with largely a focus on
14:33office space. So, uh, some art space,
14:36some, um, public space. Uh, and then the
14:38NAACP is going to be moving, uh, from
14:41their headquarters from Baltimore down
14:43to, uh, to Washington DC and would
14:46occupy a substantial portion of that,
14:48um, that southern building. Uh, what we
14:51understand is that they are going to u
14:53maintain the current parking structure
14:55that exists underground today. Uh, and
14:58to reduce costs and to, uh, improve
15:01their speed of development. um they are
15:03going to simply be building the new
15:04structures on top of the existing
15:06parking lot. So, one of the questions
15:08that a number of folks were asking is,
15:10are we going to lose parking in the
15:11area? Um in terms of available spots,
15:14no. Um but in terms of whether those
15:16will be fully available to patrons of
15:18Ust Street, uh we'll likely be losing
15:21spots as we think about, you know, some
15:23of those spots being uh consumed uh for
15:26lack of a better word by folks who are
15:27living in the residential parts uh of
15:29the mixeduse development. Um but that
15:31that whole facility will remain. Uh and
15:34then they also suggested I can't
15:35remember if they mentioned this to us at
15:37our meeting in June but they did mention
15:39it at the ANC meeting in July um that
15:42they would be seeking a uh a PUD a PUD
15:46um to uh to kind of relax some of the
15:50zoning or to change the zoning on the
15:52north side uh to allow for greater
15:54density. They'd like to go higher than
15:56the current zoning allows for. Uh and
15:58the purpose of that would be, excuse me,
16:01uh adding additional residential. Um
16:03they did commit to a uh a a pretty
16:07specific mix of inclusionary zoning. Uh
16:09and we spent some time talking about the
16:11need for and our expectations for uh
16:14kind of familysized multiplebedroom
16:16units um being added to the uh adding to
16:20the residential development. Um the
16:22timeline is not fast, right? Despite the
16:24ANC with all of its tremendous power uh
16:28saying do this quickly, um the timeline
16:30is still going to be delivery uh of the
16:33office space I think in like 29 uh and
16:37the residential not until kind of like
16:3932 33. Um so it's it's going to be a
16:43long time in coming for uh for that
16:45whole space to to really come online
16:47again. Um but I I wanted to share those
16:49updates. Um, Janet, I think your hand
16:51was up first. Uh, and then to Arlene.
16:58And Janet, you are muted if you were
17:00talking.
17:02>> But am I still muted?
17:04>> Nope. We can hear you now.
17:05>> Okay. Well, I didn't have my hand up.
17:07That's all I had to say.
17:09>> Oh, it might have been from before.
17:10Okay, Arlene, go ahead.
17:12>> Yeah. I I wanted to um ask about the
17:16ownership of that property. H how is
17:18that um how is that being handled at the
17:20reef center? Is that is that a land
17:22lease? Is are we actually selling that
17:24property to the developers? How how is I
17:27I don't think he actually addressed that
17:29at the last meeting and I forgot to ask.
17:31>> Yeah, that's a good question and I think
17:33it's probably one that we need to uh
17:35it's a different person at Demped who
17:37manages that project. It's not Daniel.
17:40Um so I will reach out to her as well
17:42and maybe Krishna and I can do two
17:43separate calls. Um it's going to be two
17:46different um two different arrangements
17:49uh because the southern building uh
17:53because because the NAACP will be an
17:56owner of that building. The southern
17:59portion of the parcel will be actually
18:02uh sold to the uh to the developer by
18:05the District of Columbia. Um the
18:07northern parcel will remain uh district
18:10land and will be leased uh because those
18:13will be rental uh rental units uh both
18:15the apartments and the um uh the
18:18commercial space. Um so yeah, it's two
18:20different um two different arrangements.
18:22Um given that they both sit on top of
18:25the same foundation and they both share
18:27a uh the same uh parking lot, uh I don't
18:31know how that you know complexity is
18:33navigated. Um but there were two
18:35different arrangements. um based upon
18:36the fact that the NAACP wanted to uh be
18:40an outright owner of their new office
18:42space in that southern tower.
18:43>> So just their office space or they're
18:46going to own all the offices and then
18:48rent out the ones they're not using or
18:51>> it's going to be shared ownership. Um,
18:53so it'd be kind of like a an office
18:54condominium, I guess, where uh NAACP
18:57would be the owner of five five floors
19:00or so and then CSG Urban Partners and
19:03its and its partners, development
19:04partners would be the owner of the
19:06remainder.
19:07>> Okay. Do do you know if that's online
19:09anywhere that that kind of arrangement?
19:11Is there a way to look that up?
19:13>> You know, Arlene, that's a great
19:14question. Um, and you're you're
19:16definitely catching me. Uh, as I say, we
19:19we did the meeting with them uh in early
19:21July and then I put all of my energy
19:24into other things than ANC over the
19:26summer. So, let me
19:27>> and that's going to be that's going to
19:28be when they present it to council is
19:30when we're going to be able to get those
19:32those documents probably and and and try
19:35to figure that out.
19:37>> Okay. Okay.
19:40>> But good question and we'll we'll add
19:41that one to the list. So, I always
19:43wonder who gets the revenue from from
19:46those properties. Um,
19:49okay. Yeah, [laughter] it's always been
19:52interesting to me who actually benefits.
19:54I I hope the district will get some
19:56benefit out of all this because it is
19:59district land right now, right?
20:01>> It is. Yep. It is. Um, yeah. And and I
20:06think, you know, your your point is well
20:07taken, right? When you think about all
20:08the discussions and debates that council
20:10had uh going through the the the last
20:12budget uh period, um you know, there was
20:16a lot of rating of the piggy bank um to
20:19ensure that certain services could
20:21continue uh through fiscal year 27, the
20:24upcoming fiscal year. Uh and you know,
20:27it really depleted most of the reserves
20:29that the city has. Um and given you know
20:31a lot of the financial pressures and
20:33constraints that we're experiencing
20:35right now uh you know the district needs
20:37to be looking for revenue streams and
20:38the sale of a prime piece of real estate
20:40certainly would uh although not solve
20:42every problem would certainly contribute
20:44um to depleted funds. So let's uh let's
20:47do some some digging there. Uh Krishna
20:49is absolutely right. A lot more details
20:51are going to come out as uh as you know
20:53these plans are presented to council. Um
20:55but let's also dig in and see what we
20:56can find and share that with you all at
20:58the next meeting.
20:59Thank you.
21:00>> Yep. Tanya Shen, welcome. Good to have
21:02you here.
21:04>> Good evening. Hello.
21:06>> Hi. Uh, great. Um, I think those were
21:10the only uh those were the only major
21:13updates that I wanted to make sure we
21:14touched on was 1617 and the the Reeves
21:17Center. Um, if there are other Oh, I
21:19think the only other item I should I
21:21should highlight is that uh the throne
21:24toilet that this group spent some time
21:26discussing uh last fall um because the
21:30council member council member Nato had
21:33put money uh into the FY26, our current
21:37year uh budget for a throne to be placed
21:40somewhere in the vicinity of uh 7th and
21:43T Street. something that um you know I
21:46know know at least a number of
21:47businesses had been asking for help
21:49there. Uh that was ultimately never
21:52placed. Uh my understanding is that
21:54there were some issues that were
21:56unclarified related to the funding. Uh
21:59and then what I heard recently is that
22:01the throne was no longer being
22:03considered at 7th and T uh and that they
22:06had revised their request using last
22:08year's dollars to move it up someplace
22:10in the Columbia Heights area. So, we'll
22:13continue to pay attention to that. It
22:15was one item that was outstanding that
22:16we continued to ask for updates on um
22:19DPW's evaluation of potential sites. We
22:21had requested that the community have
22:23the opportunity um to provide input uh
22:26and suggestions related to the
22:28placement. Uh but it seems as if the
22:30placement is now going to be outside of
22:32our ANC area uh and uh from what I've
22:34heard going up to Columbia Heights. So,
22:37>> hey Matt.
22:37>> Um yeah,
22:38>> I'm gonna I'm gonna check my emails. I
22:40had a conversation with um one of NDO's
22:45committee staffers
22:47>> uh and because I had asked this question
22:48after the T Street task force a couple
22:50weeks ago and I swear he said something
22:53about a park up by you guys but I'm
22:56going to get the verbiage and I'll
22:58report back uh via the text chat in a
23:01few minutes here.
23:02>> Okay.
23:02>> What what he's recently stated about
23:04that throne because I was surprised. So,
23:07>> and by you guys, do you mean by Lloyd
23:09Park? Yes. Sorry. Yes. Great. Yeah.
23:13Yeah. Yeah.
23:13>> I don't think we need a throne, but that
23:14sounds great.
23:16Um All right. Uh well, we actually have
23:20the National Guard in Lroid Park at the
23:22park at Lroid, and they brought two of
23:24their own portaotties. So, uh we have we
23:27have additional they're not public, it
23:29says not not available for public use.
23:31Um but we do have additional restrooms
23:33in Leroy Park out on the street. Um
23:36let's turn our attention now to uh the
23:38topic of the business improvement
23:39district. Um we have been talking about
23:42a business improvement district since
23:45January of uh 2025. Um this committee to
23:49be fair uh came together for its first
23:51meeting in this this new term uh in
23:53February of 2025 and our really focused
23:56discussion around the business
23:57improvement district for UST Street uh
23:59really took place in uh in March of
24:012025. We dedicated the bulk of our
24:03February meeting um to hearing more
24:06about the neighborhood management
24:07authority and then our next meeting to
24:09talk more about the business improvement
24:10district. Um the business improvement
24:13district folks have been uh working
24:14hard. Uh the the group that is currently
24:17the steering committee of the business
24:19improvement district um and this is not
24:21particularly unusual. Um but I want to
24:24kind of highlight that uh kind of before
24:26I say say who's who's on it are are
24:28essentially Howard University. Uh it's
24:31IMP which is the operator of 930 Club
24:34and um uh the Lincoln Theater among
24:37other you know uh uh venues outside of
24:40uh ANC1B. Um and then uh about six uh
24:44large developers in the the Ust Street
24:46area which include Quadrangle
24:48Development uh the builder operator of
24:51the Langston on 7th Street. Um and uh
24:54the two gentlemen that we've heard most
24:56often from Mike Wagner and Mike McCarthy
24:58both work for Quadrangle. Um the reason
25:00that these bid uh entities tend to start
25:03that way is because the way that a bid
25:04has to get formed is that you need to
25:06have a certain number of petitions
25:07signed uh and the petitions are are
25:10based on the total value of the
25:12properties inside of the uh the bid area
25:15and also the number of parcels. And so
25:18frankly if you don't get the big
25:19developers with the big dollars on big
25:22dollar properties on board um you have a
25:25very difficult time advancing your bid
25:27efforts. Um we've also worked hard to
25:30bring a lot of small businesses uh into
25:33the conversation. Uh and so we've also
25:35kind of set up a number of different um
25:37forums for the bid folks to be meeting
25:39with and talking with the small
25:41businesses um about their priorities,
25:43the benefits of the bid, etc. Um and so
25:45just over the course of the summer um
25:48the folks have uh the bid organizers
25:50have really gotten a lot of traction uh
25:52on forming a bid. Um that means that
25:54they've gotten the petitions that um get
25:56them close to the target for the total
25:59property value in the bid area. Um
26:01they've gotten close to the the number
26:03of properties that they need for the
26:05number of parcels, the percent of
26:07parcels that they need to get in the bid
26:08area. Um and so they are hopeful that
26:11they will be able to go forward with um
26:13bid legislation uh sometime this this
26:17fall. Um, the way that a bid is formed,
26:19and I have spent, um, a lot of time
26:21learning more about bids than I probably
26:22thought I'd ever want to, uh, is that
26:25once the petitions are are signed, uh,
26:28now you need to, uh, take, uh, you have
26:31to draft legislation, um, that the, uh,
26:34that the council will be able to, uh, to
26:36sign or try to pass. Uh once the
26:38legislation is passed um they turn that
26:40over to the Department of Small and
26:42Local Business Development um DSLBD and
26:45they then have a a formal a very
26:47rigorous process that they go that they
26:49go through including a 45day hearing
26:52period. Um and so uh council member
26:54Naido has said many many times in public
26:57that she supports a bid. Uh we are
26:59hopeful that um she will support and
27:02sponsor the bid legislation. Uh and so
27:05we're at a point today where as a
27:07committee uh I would like to put a
27:09letter of or rather a resolution of
27:11support for a business improvement
27:13district um before the committee and the
27:15community for consideration. Um and the
27:17reason for that is that uh as we have
27:19all talked as a committee and as we have
27:21heard a lot of public feedback from
27:23business owners um from community
27:26members um the business improvement
27:28district uh format uh or model for place
27:31management um seems to be the best model
27:34for UST Street. Uh, and we'll talk a
27:36little bit as we talk through the the
27:37structure of the resolution about uh
27:40what we've also heard from businesses
27:42and from residents about um I might call
27:45it the dire economic straits of UST
27:47Street. Um, and that we need uh an
27:50entity to help organize and to represent
27:53and to champion and to capture funds
27:55that are available um through a lot of
27:58different programs that need a bid-like
28:00structure to be able to capture the
28:01revenues. Um, but we're at a point where
28:04uh as legislation advances and as we are
28:07uh as the bid organizers are going to
28:09council and asking for support, uh we
28:11would like to uh be able to put forward
28:13a resolution of support um so that
28:15council also knows that um uh the ANC is
28:19supportive of these efforts. Um we've
28:21had some meetings over the summer with
28:23the Leroy Park Civic Association, with
28:25the Ust Street Neighborhood Association,
28:27um working with Frank right now to get
28:29in front of the the um Westminster
28:31Neighborhood Association. Um but the
28:33neighborhood associations um have also
28:35expressed interest in in supporting the
28:38uh the bid. Um and and they're seeing
28:41and reporting back the same types of
28:42concerns and issues that we've been
28:44hearing. um because you know they're
28:46they're a representative um body as well
28:48that's hearing from residents about
28:50frustrations over cleanliness and safety
28:53and the the kind of the the failure rate
28:55of businesses on the US Street corridor
28:58uh and the number of closed uh closed
29:00shops and uh and vacant vacant
29:02storefronts. Um so that's that's
29:04essentially where where we're going to
29:06spend uh uh a bunch of our time right
29:08now. Um let me maybe pause and ask if uh
29:13kind of the committee members if you've
29:14got any kind of specific questions about
29:18the bid or the bid activities um before
29:20I turn to uh the resolution which I I
29:23think is to some extent the narrative of
29:26uh of kind of some of the issues that
29:28we're seeing and where we think that the
29:30um
29:31>> uh the bid ultimately would be uh would
29:33be helpful and an expression of our
29:35support. Um Frank, go ahead.
29:38Yeah, Matt, thanks for the update. Uh,
29:40just a a quick comment. It's iterative
29:44of uh everything you've said, but you
29:46know, there's just been an object
29:48failure of leadership in this corridor.
29:50I mean, is there any reason we don't
29:52have places for Uber pickups? There's
29:54been no planning. The transportation
29:56guys are are horrible when they shut
29:59down roads. They don't push traffic. I
30:02mean, it's like we have to take charge.
30:03We have no leadership because this all
30:05should have been done. should have been
30:07talked about a decade or two ago in in
30:10the works and and and and it's just so
30:13important to have a bid and I guess I'm
30:15just iterating I think I mean the
30:17sentiment from what I've heard from all
30:19of these you know dozen meetings that
30:21we've been involved with here uh in
30:24front of the committee and a few in the
30:27community is that people want success of
30:30a bid and if we're getting near it more
30:32than ever we need to support that and so
30:36and I haven't heard much say let's try
30:38this experimental NMA program that has
30:42has not been implemented anywhere and
30:44that is more government on top of
30:46government that's not helping us and
30:48that has failed us for 20 and 30 years
30:50and so we need ground we need soldiers
30:53that own and care people that own
30:55businesses people that are here to to be
30:59leaders again and give empower them to
31:02do that so I just want to just iterate
31:04that and how important it is and just
31:06say, is there anybody that thinks we
31:08need an NMA on this call? because I
31:10think it's it's it's imperative that we
31:13articulate a community voice that I'm
31:15not sure has been really articulated and
31:18especially since the ANC sort of was
31:20vacasillating trying to be respectful of
31:23the NMA program and introduction and and
31:26and a and reasoning brought forth by the
31:30council member uh versus what we have
31:33been all hearing about a bid and its
31:35opportunities that are
31:40Yeah,
31:42>> go ahead,
31:42>> Tanya.
31:44I had a clarification that I wanted. So,
31:47go ahead if you're responding to um
31:49>> to Frank.
31:50>> Yeah, I was going to do a really quick
31:51response to Frank if if that's okay and
31:52then and then would love to hear your
31:54thoughts. Um so, a couple really quick
31:57things. One, Frank, um I'm going to I'm
32:00going to narrow I'm going to ask if I
32:01can narrow your timeline just a little
32:03bit. Um and and one of the things that
32:04that I do believe uh when I when I think
32:08about the Duke district plan that um
32:11that the office of planning put
32:12together, you know, really kind of at
32:14the turn of the millennia and I look at
32:16the different uh you know, photographs
32:19and images of uh you know, the old
32:22Howard Theater and the uh Shaw Howard uh
32:25metro station literally being an
32:27escalator that came out of the ground in
32:29the middle of a grass field. Um I I
32:33think that actually there was a
32:34tremendous amount of u of investment and
32:38uh effort that was put into the US
32:40street corridor uh from probably around
32:432000 until 2010 2012. Um, and honestly,
32:47the reason I picked the the date 2012 is
32:50that I've had conversations with certain
32:52business owners who are still operating
32:53on the corridor, uh, who who say, "Gosh,
32:57I remember when you Street showed so
32:59much promise." And I said, [snorts]
33:01"What year was that?" And they go back
33:03to the years that they were making big
33:04investments in their businesses and
33:06opening up and bringing new concepts to
33:08to it was kind of that 2010 2012 time
33:13period. Um and and I would agree with
33:15you wholeheartedly that there has not
33:17been significant investment and there
33:19has not been um organized leadership on
33:21the corridor um you know for the for the
33:25last uh you know period of time um and
33:28and and we have suffered for it uh and
33:30that also other neighborhoods have
33:32gotten a lot of investment public and
33:34private uh and those neighborhoods like
33:36Union Market, like the Warf, like
33:38Navyyard uh are seeing, you know, big
33:41growth and uh and and a fair amount and
33:43a success uh while Ust Street which is a
33:46you know a storied neighborhood with
33:48longstanding history and traditions uh
33:52is essentially left to to rot. Um and so
33:55I that is part of my motivation in in
33:57championing and supporting um a bid
34:00organizing effort is that I want this
34:02place that we all call home to get the
34:04attention that it deserves. And I think
34:06that what we have found is that it needs
34:08some organization and it needs some
34:10funding and it needs some leadership. uh
34:12and and we've not found that in other
34:14places and the bid seems to be a vehicle
34:17that is a proven model to do that with
34:1913 other bids successfully implemented
34:21around the city. Um so I think to some
34:24extent I'm agreeing with you and on the
34:25other hand I I I wanted to say it's not
34:27I don't think it's all doom doom and
34:29gloom. I think a lot of great things
34:30have happened but then those great
34:31things slowed down or stopped. Uh and so
34:34it's time that we you know pick things
34:35back up again. Um Tanya go ahead and I
34:38apologize for my long-winded
34:39interjection.
34:41I ask
34:41>> yes I just wanted clarification um when
34:44you mentioned um WNA
34:47>> supporting was that supporting in terms
34:49of
34:51uh financial supporting or supporting
34:55the effort? I just wanted some
34:56clarification on that.
34:58>> Yeah. No, really good point. So the
35:00first thing I will say is that I have
35:01not yet had a chance to meet with the
35:03WNA. So, I'm looking forward to that
35:04opportunity and I'm grateful for Frank
35:06and then also Tanya for you if you're
35:08able to help coordinate uh you know a
35:11meeting and a discussion with the WNA.
35:13Um the support is is uh is is purely
35:16kind of a uh a vote of support um and
35:19not financial support. Um the the bids
35:22are funded through bid taxes. Uh and
35:25when you talk to the bid organizers with
35:28their deep experience in leading and and
35:31forming other bids, uh one of the things
35:33that they will say is that the bid taxes
35:36typically represent about half of the
35:38total revenues that a bid gets. Um
35:41they're very active uh and focused on
35:43getting uh grants um that are available
35:46to entities like bids. Uh they're also
35:48very active in soliciting and capturing
35:51um donations. Uh although it's a bit
35:53different from uh from from our
35:55neighborhood, um Amazon uh is a big
35:58underwriter of a lot of activities that
36:00take place in that um Franklin Square
36:04Park uh that's in front of the you know,
36:06the the new Washington Post building. Uh
36:08and so, you know, those are dollars that
36:10Amazon's uh philanthropy arm donates uh
36:13through the downtown bid um to support
36:16different activities and and efforts in
36:18in DC. Um, and so, you know, the the bid
36:21provides, you know, different
36:22opportunities and pathways to bring
36:24dollars and support, uh, you know, into
36:26a community that they're organized in.
36:28Um, and that's that's a part of what
36:30they have talked about doing.
36:35>> Okay, that sounds good. Thank you.
36:37>> If you want to write a check though, I
36:39mean, I can I can make some
36:40recommendations.
36:42>> Well, I don't mind writing a check. It's
36:44how much,
36:45>> right? That's fair. And then in this
36:47case, there's no check. Um, and it's
36:49actually I think it's an important I
36:51think it's actually a very important
36:52distinction when when you talk about a
36:54bid tax. Um, bid taxes are are on
36:58commercial uh commercial properties and
37:00commercial enterprises. Um, they do not
37:03tax uh individual homeowners. They do
37:05not tax um uh residential properties.
37:09Uh, and they do not tax uh small
37:11apartment buildings. Um, I think the
37:13cuto off is like four. Um, so anything
37:15that was over four I think is included
37:17in the bid tax. Um, and anything that's
37:19under four units does not get included
37:21in the bid tax. Um, so yeah, this is
37:23this is I mean to me it's actually a
37:25very important thing where you say uh
37:27this is a uh an entity that is funded
37:30through um commercial real estate taxes
37:33and is primarily organized uh to help
37:36kind of that commercial corridor um be
37:38successful and thrive. Um and given the
37:40relationship that exists between the
37:42residential corridor and the commercial
37:44corridor on Ust Street, um the success
37:47of one uh I think leads to the success
37:49of the other.
37:54Any other questions or questions from
37:56the audience as well about kind of
37:58specifically about the bid uh uh
38:01organizing efforts? the questions about
38:04the bid. Otherwise, I'm happy to turn to
38:06the draft resolution and talk through
38:09kind of my thoughts on uh what what I've
38:11seen and and why, you know, I I'm
38:13positive on it.
38:20Let me just go to share quickly. Sorry,
38:22I've been spending all of my time lately
38:24in Teams and very little time on Zoom,
38:27so I'm having to adjust back to buttons.
38:30All right. Um, can folks see this?
38:34>> I just have one other question. Has
38:37anybody queried the new our new and not
38:41ANC, our new council member to see what
38:44their position is on this?
38:47>> Um, so I I have raised it to her at a
38:50very conceptual level. Um, and we have
38:53not had an opportunity to do a deep dive
38:55conversation on it. Um, so I'll just
38:59leave it at that. I mean, I I could kind
39:01of surmise other things, but uh I would
39:03say that I will also say she she was um
39:05you know, away from DC for a month uh
39:09over the summer, which I I honestly
39:11applaud her for doing cuz I imagine that
39:14uh as soon as you know, we're leading up
39:15to the final election and then
39:17transition period and then uh four years
39:20in council, taking a month away might be
39:22the only four weeks she gets off for a
39:23long time. Um, but now that she's back,
39:26I I will be reaching back out to her
39:27again, and this will be one of the
39:29topics uh that I I want to talk with her
39:31about.
39:33>> That sounds good because I think that'll
39:34be uh very important.
39:36>> For you to
39:40I am I will say I'm already heartened by
39:42the fact that she has scheduled a uh a
39:45town hall uh for September. Um if if
39:48committee members don't already have
39:49that, I will send that around to you. uh
39:51because I can't I can't honestly
39:52remember how I got that invitation. Uh
39:55so I I think many of you probably have
39:57emailed with her campaign or have
40:00provided your emails to the campaign at
40:02some point. Um but there is a specific
40:04kind of Northshaw uh Northshaw Lroid
40:08Westminster um focus discussion um
40:10that's going to happen in September and
40:12it's one of the many town halls that
40:13she's holding um so she can get
40:15community feedback um you know before
40:17she even starts. Uh, so I appreciate her
40:19commitment to outreach and engagement.
40:25Let's do this. Um, I'm going to kind of
40:27as as always the the structure of our
40:30resolutions is there's a series of
40:32whereas clauses that that lay out kind
40:34of the basic narrative of why are we
40:36doing this? Some sometimes it's it's
40:38more factual and sometimes it's more uh,
40:41you know, narrative. Uh in this
40:43particular case, I would argue that I
40:45have not done a great job of finding
40:48great facts. These are more kind of
40:50based on observation and lived
40:52experience um being on Ust Street. Uh
40:54and so I I welcome folks kind of really
40:57pressure testing this and also pressure
40:59testing uh you know additional facts
41:02that we can we can potentially add to
41:04this. Um the other thing I'm going to
41:05say, Krishna, if you don't mind, is that
41:07because uh I'm sharing the screen, it's
41:09always harder for me to see audience
41:11hands go up. Um, so if you see audience
41:13hands, if you can just kind of interrupt
41:15me and uh flag flag and I'll uh I'll
41:17make sure we we promote folks to speak.
41:20Um, so here's here's the background,
41:22right? In terms of supporting a US
41:24Street Corridor bid. Um, the US Street
41:26Corridor has suffered from a lack of
41:28district-led public space and amenities
41:30investment over the past decade. Frank,
41:32I think this speaks a little bit to what
41:33you're talking about. I would welcome
41:35words smithing on this and essentially
41:37we're saying uh East Street's not gotten
41:39a lot of love. um it hasn't gotten a lot
41:41of support. It hasn't gotten a lot of
41:43amenities. Uh and uh I'm happy to amend
41:46the decade to 15 years or
41:5018 years or whatever the number the
41:52number is. Um but just kind of
41:54highlighting the fact that there's been
41:55limited um uh limited investment. Um
41:58whereas the street quarter receives less
42:01district agency services than it needs
42:02to maintain the required level of
42:04cleanliness and safety for the high
42:06volume visitor and entertainment
42:08district it has become. Um, essentially
42:10what I'm talking about here is we've got
42:12a huge huge number of people that come
42:14into the corridor every weekend um, and
42:16very limited uh, MPD resources. The
42:19other thing that I tend to see on a
42:20regular basis and that I cite as an area
42:22of frustration personally, but that I've
42:24heard a lot of feedback on from the
42:26businesses are the trash cans that are
42:28always overflowing with trash um, before
42:30a Friday night even begins. And that
42:33trash is not only overflowing by the end
42:35of the night, it is all over the street,
42:36the sidewalks, and it's blowing into the
42:38residential areas. Um, you know, we need
42:41more services than we're currently
42:42getting on US Street, um, to be able to
42:45handle a busy corridor, um, such as
42:47this,
42:48um, we're in a competitive environment.
42:50Um and so what I wrote is whereas other
42:52areas within the district uh have
42:54received substantial public and private
42:56investments uh which have created
42:58well-conceived and wellunded
42:59destinations that are now out competing
43:02street for visitors, patrons, businesses
43:04and residents. Um, you know, there's a
43:06lot of business owners who are really
43:07nervous. Uh, you know, they they have
43:10been nervous for a while. As you think
43:12about people not coming to UT Street and
43:14instead going to the warf or going to uh
43:17out to eat at um uh
43:21sorry, the uh uh over by NMA, whatever
43:24that that area is. I mentioned it a
43:26moment ago. Um and and they're very
43:28worried about all the district dollars
43:30that are going to uh Commander Stadium
43:32to create another entertainment
43:34district. Um that is going to create
43:36even more of a draw. Um so you know it's
43:38a very competitive environment. The
43:40cumulative effect of systematic
43:42underinvestment in street has resulted
43:43in numerous business closures, renter
43:45retention challenges. A lot of the big
43:48developers are really nervous because
43:49they're having a hard time getting folks
43:51to renew reliably in the apartments um
43:54that are in the US street area. um and
43:56flattening property values. Um whereas
43:59Ust Street businesses have not
44:00successfully organized to lobby the
44:02government of the District of Columbia
44:04for support, market the US Street area
44:06as a destination in the district or keep
44:08up with the ongoing operational needs of
44:10the corridor. Whereas a business
44:12improvement district um approved by the
44:14DC council and organized in accordance
44:16with the DSLB DSLBD guidelines has
44:19consistently demonstrated its ability to
44:21deliver improved cleanliness, economic
44:23vitality, and visibility. And whereas a
44:25bid organizing effort is currently
44:27underway to form a bid to serve the US
44:29Street corridor. Uh I'd like to say
44:32something there about timeline, but let
44:34me pause and just see are there other
44:37things that we should make sure that we
44:39capture. Are there things here that are
44:41not accurately stated? Um full editing
44:45rights on the table. Howard Kurtzman, go
44:47ahead.
44:49Yeah, I think we may want to discuss
44:53what is the vision we have for you
44:55street in one of the whereases at the
44:57top you say we do have a we do have a
44:59lot of people coming here but they come
45:01on Friday and Saturday nights. Uh so
45:04those the businesses that cater to those
45:08folks are I assume doing well. I think
45:11what we want is a diverse set of
45:13businesses that serve daytime needs uh
45:16for both residents and visitors and um
45:22uh you [clears throat] know meet
45:23individuals needs like hardware stores
45:25and and um clothing stores and um um
45:30maybe our are our our businesses that
45:32bring that have employees uh like a
45:35print shop or I don't know I'm just
45:36making that up but um if we can come up
45:39with some kind of vision
45:40for what we want street to look like. I
45:44think that would make a more compelling
45:45case in general and and in this document
45:49as well. Mhm.
45:57>> I think also citing somehow
46:00parcels like the housing finance agency
46:05by kind of noting that there's
46:07opportunities for the diversification
46:09that we were just um talking about.
46:12There are opportunities. So there are
46:14opportunities that a bid could take
46:16advantage of in terms of bringing some
46:17of the things
46:19the diversity of businesses to the
46:21community
46:23because the true reformer building is
46:25not true reformer
46:27housing finance is sitting there and I'm
46:30not sure all along which are the big
46:32parcels. I think the CVS that's now some
46:35kind of bar I guess that's out outside
46:37of our purview but there's
46:40opportunities.
46:41>> Yeah.
46:43Yeah. And and and the the the parcel
46:45that's the CVS on that corner uh is
46:47definitely part of the bid district. Um
46:50that is that is actually owned by Howard
46:52University. It's currently being uh the
46:55word that they they use is activated by
46:58uh Sandlot. Um but you know, when we
47:01talk about it in our community, we're
47:02very disappointed at the level of
47:04activation. Uh it was intended to be
47:06kind of a real draw for students um you
47:08know, on a regular basis. Uh, and what
47:11it is is kind of again a Friday and
47:12Saturday night, you know, loud music
47:14destination, uh, as opposed to kind of
47:17true activation with, uh, you know,
47:18activities during the day, too. Um,
47:21Frank, go ahead and then,
47:23>> oh, sorry,
47:24>> let me just follow up quickly. I said by
47:26citing those sites, I think that also
47:28puts kind of like a a flare out there
47:30that's basically saying, you know, you
47:32can do better with some of these space.
47:33This is what we expect out of some of
47:36these um spaces that are available or
47:38have potential.
47:46Great.
47:47>> Yeah, I I'll say that of course I'm in a
47:50100% agreement with Howard's and Tanya's
47:54sentiment. However, we're talking about,
47:57you know, everything that the Duke
47:59plan's been talking about for 20 years
48:01with these, you know, current last
48:03affformentioned remarks, 18-hour
48:05pedestrian traffic, you know, that is
48:08the uh, you know, repeated 20 times in
48:11the Duke plan. Well, that's planning and
48:14that's different than this. And I don't
48:16want to go astray of a concrete and
48:20quick sentiment that we need something
48:23to manage what we have. All the other
48:26stuff should be managed. We should have
48:28better um um uh planning. We should have
48:3218-hour traffic. And I'm glad to see
48:35there's a commissioner running uh for
48:37ANC 1B that has said yes, we want more
48:42varied tra business traffic, varied kind
48:45of businesses. So that's all good. And
48:47of course, I think every no one here
48:48would disagree. I'm just, you know, I
48:51wouldn't mind encapsulating that, but to
48:53spend too much time on that visioning of
48:56what we should be versus give us some
48:59service and an advocate to give us that
49:01service, you know. So, I don't want to I
49:03don't want to take away from from that
49:05is is is my my point.
49:08>> Yeah. I don't think anybody's saying
49:09anything about taking up too much time.
49:12We're talking about a whereas clause and
49:14I think saying that this is what the the
49:17bid can help
49:20um address some of these issues and some
49:23of these parcels.
49:25>> Yeah. Yeah, I mean Tanya, the the the
49:27connection that I'm seeing here is that
49:30this is an opportunity for the for the
49:32ANC to convey its support, but also to
49:35convey some of its hopes and
49:36expectations. Um so yes,
49:40>> yeah, I like the idea of capturing this
49:42in the spirit of saying um heads up,
49:44right? These are some of the things that
49:45are important to us. you will see in the
49:47therefore clauses that I I do make some
49:50requests about governance um which are
49:52frankly not inconsistent with what all
49:54the other bids are doing um but that I
49:56think it's important for us to say like
49:58these are some of the things that we
49:59advocate for and I think us saying hey
50:01heads up these are things that are
50:02important to this community as you're
50:04coming into it and you know digging in
50:07uh we would like you to pay attention to
50:10we'll we'll keep talking about these
50:11pieces but go ahead Krishna
50:16>> are we just doing the uh whereas clauses
50:19now or do we are we talking about the
50:20therefore clauses as well?
50:23>> Um we're definitely going to talk about
50:24the therefore clauses. I I just wanted
50:26to kind of break it into two pieces so
50:28that as we were talking about um you
50:30know the
50:31>> you'd you'd rather just do the talk
50:33about the whereas clauses now.
50:35>> Uh we can talk about the now therefore
50:37clauses you know.
50:39>> It's it's it's fine. I'll I'll I'll just
50:41be quick. Um, I think we could uh
50:45probably put in there that the ANC has
50:47already passed two resolutions
50:49on the um on this. You know, the the
50:54first being the east west versus north
50:57south distinction that we argued about
50:59last year and that we we definitely want
51:02to place management entity uh for US
51:05Street because those were I think both
51:06resolutions A and C path last year in
51:092025.
51:10>> Yeah. and that there have been uh a
51:14series of meetings at the economic
51:16development committee and also with
51:19local small businesses and that is what
51:22is informing our sense of the
51:24resolution.
51:26>> Yeah.
51:36>> Yeah. Great. And then um uh I'll just
51:39note uh Andrew had a quick point I think
51:43on some I'd say protocol issues and
51:46Arlene has her hand up too once we're
51:48done with the committee members.
51:49>> Okay, that sounds good.
51:55Let me see if I can go back.
52:10Okay, so we've got Andrew
52:13and then Arlene.
52:18Okay. Uh I don't know whose whose hand
52:21was up first. I think it might have been
52:23Andrew. So, Andrew, go ahead. Am I still
52:26sharing, by the way?
52:28>> Yeah.
52:29>> Can you Great.
52:30>> Can you all hear me?
52:31>> We can.
52:32>> Okay. Thank you for having me. I don't
52:34mean to be a stick in the mud. Um, I do
52:38want to remind I and I was just
52:39listening in. We are still in election
52:41season. Nobody has officially been
52:44elected. We are just in the l between
52:46the primary and the actual um general
52:50election. So just remember that this is
52:54also a DC government call. Um and just
52:57to be very careful about how that is
52:59talked about as nobody has officially
53:01been elected yet. Um and you know um
53:06this
53:07you know obviously need to be
53:10cognizant of what may happen. At the
53:12same time you know these are still being
53:15recorded. So, you all just want to be
53:16careful to make sure you're not um
53:18saying anything that could get in
53:20trouble or anything like that.
53:24>> I think that is all uh factual and
53:27correct, Andrew. Thank you.
53:29>> And not to be a stick in the mud, I it's
53:32I we were reminded in our office uh as
53:34we had um just we were reminded too to
53:38be careful about how we were
53:39interacting. Um so, I just just wanted
53:42to be that. But this has been a very um
53:45um interesting call. I'm listening in
53:47and I um heard all of Frank's comments.
53:52Um I do want to note on the T Street
53:54task force
53:56um sorry the nine and a half street task
53:58force. Um we have gotten we are waiting
54:02for the OAG. Um it is in their hands to
54:05move forward with that. So we feel very
54:07confident we're going to get a
54:09resolution there that will result in
54:11opening that alley up. Um, so we will
54:13keep you guys posted on that. I don't
54:15know if you all bleed over into that
54:16area, but it looks like we're gonna
54:18finally get some OAG action there. Um,
54:21and you know, in some degree we'll be
54:24able to move forward with hopefully a
54:27doorway to that alley.
54:29>> Great. Andrew, thank you for all your
54:31hard work uh and support with that group
54:33that's been working on it.
54:36>> Um,
54:37>> yeah, thank you all.
54:38>> I'll go off mute now. Thank you. All
54:40right. [laughter]
54:41Um, Arlene, go ahead.
54:43>> Okay. Um, just a couple of quick
54:45comments. Um, could you spell out what
54:48DSLBD is?
54:50>> You put the acronym in there, but I have
54:52no idea what that is.
54:54>> Yep. So, it is the Department of Small
54:56and Local Business Development.
54:59>> Okay. Yeah, I think we should put that.
55:00I forget which whereas clause it was in,
55:02but I think you should spell that out
55:04and then inn put there the acronym.
55:07>> Yep. No, that's perfect. Yeah. Yeah. So
55:09um so the department of small and local
55:10business development is the agency
55:12inside of the district columbia district
55:14government um that is responsible for
55:16reviewing um applications for um for
55:19bids um and then kind of vetting them
55:22and ensuring that they have met uh the
55:24test um to actually be formed as a
55:27formal bid. um legislation is required
55:29by um by council um because this this
55:33essentially does create a new tax
55:35structure and so um the tax has to be
55:37approved by by council. Um but then kind
55:40of the logistics and the administrative
55:42aspects of the bid uh are managed by
55:44that agency.
55:46>> Okay, good. And uh in one of the whereas
55:48clauses you said uh systematic
55:51underinvestment.
55:53>> Yes.
55:53>> No, system Yeah. systematic
55:55underinvestment. It it almost is is that
55:58the best word to you? Systematic. It
56:00sounds like it's intentional
56:01underinvestment like um
56:05>> it feels like it's intentional. Like I'm
56:07glad I'm glad you were reading you were
56:08reading my sentiment, but I'm I'm very
56:11happy to to change that and and Howard
56:13is always excellent at uh proposing
56:17language. So either Howard or Arlene,
56:19I'm welcome. I mean I don't I don't want
56:21I don't want us to accuse anyone of of
56:24intentionally
56:26um
56:26>> what if we say many years right uh
56:29effective many years of
56:32>> I think that's I think that's what you
56:34really mean I don't know if many years
56:36is even the but yeah I I don't
56:39systematic just sounded too um
56:42intentional [laughter]
56:44>> yes I I would agree with you
56:47>> and and one other um when we are
56:49discussing what we want to see in the um
56:51along Ust Street. Uh you could add that
56:54um part of it is zoned for arts. You
56:57know, the uh U and 14th is uh zoned
57:00arts. Um it's called arts and something.
57:03But you know, that's um that's an
57:05important designation that I think we
57:07should um highlight. It's not just
57:08business, it's arts.
57:11>> Yeah. And if I I'll ask Frank because I
57:14know Frank, you pay attention to that
57:15art zone um uh fervently. Uh I think
57:18that arts is actually only something
57:20that exists in uh on street. Like that
57:23that zone does not actually exist uh
57:26elsewhere in the city.
57:28>> Oh, special zone. I didn't know that.
57:30>> Yeah.
57:31>> In fact, if if I if let me just jump in
57:33there. I think the way to do it is just
57:35build off what Frank has always said,
57:37which is that we are zoned for arts, but
57:39because entertainment has been
57:41considered an arts use, we have an
57:43overpredance of entertainment uses here
57:46and not enough actual arts use. I mean,
57:48this is I'm sorry, Frank, I'm just, you
57:51know, quoting from your book here.
57:53>> Well, well, yes, but but the times are
57:56that we're no longer really arts
57:58feasible. Everybody charges too much.
58:01you know, rents are exorbitant. 10,000
58:0415,000 a month for some little row homes
58:08uh the 1900 block of Ust Street. I mean,
58:10we're not aren't conducive.
58:12>> Uh and so, you know, there has to be
58:15some rethinking even though we loved the
58:18purposing 20 years ago. So, but you
58:22know, it should be excluded.
58:24>> Does the new comp plan address that at
58:26all, Frank? Do you know?
58:28>> I would say not. not an expert here, but
58:31they're really denuding the comp plan uh
58:35from micro focusing on on neighborhood
58:40um centric issues. Um and so we and I
58:44think we're going to see a draft. Matt
58:45can confirm I think uh September,
58:48October, the fall here we're supposed to
58:50see a first draft that everyone's
58:52they've been working on for a year and a
58:54half.
58:55>> Yeah.
58:55>> So I guess we'll see then. But but what
58:58I do know is that they're calling for uh
59:02a timeline for new small area plans uh
59:08in an orchestration chron an organized
59:11chronology in this pending draft or new
59:14comp plan. So everyone's going to be
59:16told this is what you should expect for
59:19a small area plan around your
59:21neighborhood. So that's something to be
59:23watchful for. Well, I think we should
59:25advocate for more arts if possible. I
59:27mean, that's a we want diversity and and
59:32um the uh diversity, you know, arts just
59:36really
59:37adds to that greatly and that's I think
59:40a lot of what we're missing.
59:41>> Yeah. Um, one of the things that we we
59:44probably heard uh when when CSG Urban
59:46Partners was presenting is that they
59:48have actually allocated a very
59:50significant portion of that South
59:51building um to the arts. Uh, and so
59:54they've got um music, they've got uh I
59:58think a a comedy club that they've built
1:00:00into it. And then they've also uh have
1:00:02dedicated um like studio space for a uh
1:00:07a dance uh ensemble um as their kind of
1:00:10head their their base and their uh their
1:00:12location for um uh for practicing and
1:00:15rehearsing. Um so that that actually
1:00:17does kind of help swing back a little
1:00:19bit more space um to the arts. Uh and I
1:00:22think it is worth continuing to fight
1:00:23for um you know here. To to Frank's
1:00:26point, I do have a call with um Office
1:00:28of Planning. It's not just me. There's a
1:00:30bunch of ANC's uh update call tomorrow
1:00:32uh or sorry f Saturday Saturday with the
1:00:34office of planning um and and Frank is
1:00:36correct in in his statement that uh the
1:00:39office of planning has decided that in
1:00:41this particular comp plan they're going
1:00:43to be focusing um more on land use and
1:00:47less on neighborhood purpose and intent.
1:00:50Uh and they are going to rely more on
1:00:52the small area plans um being updated
1:00:55and revised to focus on those
1:00:57neighborhood specific things. So, um,
1:00:59the Duke plan is still kind of our
1:01:01current operating um, uh, guidelines for
1:01:04for the area, but it was done, you know,
1:01:07over 20 years ago at this point. Um, and
1:01:09really does need to be revisited. Uh,
1:01:11and so, yeah, a lot of the things that I
1:01:13think this economic development
1:01:14committee was very excited about
1:01:16advocating for in the comp plan, um,
1:01:19we're just finding that that's not part
1:01:20of the conversation right now. It's
1:01:22almost all entirely around land use. Um
1:01:25and to some extent, you know, I think
1:01:27what comes with that is density.
1:01:29Howard, is your hand up again?
1:01:32>> Yeah. Yeah. Um I wanted to suggest
1:01:35another point to include in the
1:01:36warehouses um which is to acknowledge
1:01:39that there are some big uh big projects
1:01:42that are uh at least on the initial
1:01:45drawing board at 167 new street and um
1:01:48and at the Reeves Center. Um and that uh
1:01:52another role that the bid can play is to
1:01:55have an influence on further planning of
1:01:58those uh to um adapt to the actual
1:02:03development process if if and when it
1:02:05ever happens. And and then to build a
1:02:08business
1:02:10um ecosystem that that takes advantage
1:02:13of the opportunities that those big
1:02:15projects, if they're successful, uh uh
1:02:18will provide. So, there's both shortterm
1:02:21and medium-term and long-term uh roles
1:02:24that these uh that this bid can can
1:02:28play. Um, and also that means that the
1:02:31bid will be doing something that we're
1:02:33not just complaining in this resolution
1:02:36that we're looking to the future and and
1:02:38future hopeful possibilities and a bid
1:02:40is an important uh mechanism for uh
1:02:44maximizing the those opportunities.
1:02:56Okay, great. I like that a lot.
1:03:00All right. Uh I think we have covered
1:03:02our whereas clauses. Any uh Christian,
1:03:05any other hands before I move to the um
1:03:07to the now therefors?
1:03:09>> No.
1:03:10>> Yes.
1:03:11>> And we're gonna we're gonna obviously
1:03:12Oh, go ahead. Sorry.
1:03:18Did I hear somebody?
1:03:21>> Sorry. Uh just a fine point that's
1:03:23important since we've sort of touched
1:03:26upon, you know, arts uses and the Duke
1:03:28plan and planning here. Uh but the
1:03:32failure of the arts uses is to me um um
1:03:38from my surmise from my work uh that
1:03:42they have equated food and drinking as
1:03:48one use and that those are equally valid
1:03:51arts uses. So if we're calling
1:03:54restaurants the same as a nightclub,
1:03:56that's what they're doing. and and I
1:03:58think we've experienced that they aren't
1:04:00the same, but they were treated the
1:04:02same. So, they were given substantial
1:04:05arts weight and have taken over any
1:04:08recent art uses. I think we have one
1:04:10gallery sitting maybe we have one and a
1:04:13half sitting in the 1300 block of US
1:04:15Street now. Uh we actually have one in
1:04:18in the 2,2100 block of 8th Street too.
1:04:21Uh but but we haven't had many arts use
1:04:25developments because of this complete
1:04:27knockout of this absurd eating/drinking
1:04:31use that needs to be separated because
1:04:34they are very different and one is
1:04:37abusive to other goals including
1:04:40residential balance. So I just wanted to
1:04:43iterate that point for the record. I
1:04:45know this is probably not the forum to
1:04:47add that, but just culminating on an
1:04:50important subject for the corridor.
1:04:52>> Great. No, I think that's I think that's
1:04:54helpful.
1:04:56Um, all right, let's go down to the now
1:04:58therefore again we're going to edit
1:04:59these, but also uh we probably need to
1:05:02add some because we've we've added some
1:05:04new kind of uh guidance. So, um the
1:05:07first kind of first thing we start off
1:05:09with is that uh therefore be it
1:05:11resolved, right? that the ANC supports
1:05:13the formation of a business improvement
1:05:15district to serve the greater street
1:05:17corridor and ask the DC council to
1:05:19support and pass legislation as soon as
1:05:21possible. Um, I'm going to say to allow
1:05:30to allow the bid to form. Um the ANC
1:05:34believes that the bid model um for place
1:05:36management is the better model for place
1:05:39management on the East Street Quarter
1:05:40and that the ANC strongly prefers the
1:05:43bid model over other proposed models
1:05:45including the neighborhood management
1:05:47authority model. Um we're going to have
1:05:49to talk a little bit about whether we
1:05:50want to strengthen that, whether we want
1:05:52to have kind of a more kind of direct
1:05:54comment about that. Um but there are two
1:05:57options that are currently on the table.
1:05:59uh and I think it's important that we
1:06:01take a position on which which one we
1:06:03would prefer, which one we think has uh
1:06:05the the best chance of success for our
1:06:08you know our our economic corridor. Um,
1:06:12ANC1B requests the DC council and DSLBD,
1:06:16which Arlene, you know, the definition
1:06:18to, but I will write it out above. Um,
1:06:20assign the performance parking zone
1:06:22funds budgeted in FY2, budgeted for uh,
1:06:27FY27 for place management activities um
1:06:33on the US Street corridor to the US
1:06:34Street bid upon its formation um to
1:06:37immediately support place management
1:06:38activities. Uh this is part of what
1:06:41happened during the budgeting process as
1:06:43the PPZ funds uh were moved around.
1:06:46There was about a million dollars that
1:06:48was allocated by council member Nao um
1:06:51to support place management activities
1:06:54um generically. Uh those funds would be
1:06:57available starting on October 31st. Uh
1:07:00and so, you know, we'd like the the bid
1:07:02to be the recipient of these place
1:07:04management funds uh as the group that
1:07:06will be responsible for providing place
1:07:08management uh in the corridor. Uh and
1:07:11that corridor is, you know, inside of
1:07:13the PPZ zone. So, it would um absolutely
1:07:16qualify uh as an intended use of those
1:07:19dollars. Um this is an example of where
1:07:23uh Tanya to your point of wanting to
1:07:26kind of say hey here are some things
1:07:27that we would like um uh you know just
1:07:31as we're kind of conveying both our
1:07:33support but also some of the things that
1:07:34we'd like to see um and you to some
1:07:37extent these are things that I expect
1:07:40that the uh the bid is already planning
1:07:42to do but it's it doesn't hurt to put it
1:07:45down in writing. Um the ANC requests uh
1:07:48that the bid form a governance structure
1:07:50consistent with other bids in the
1:07:52District of Columbia that include mixed
1:07:54residential and business areas. These
1:07:56would include Georgetown, Dupont Circle,
1:07:58Adams Morgan, and Capitol Hill by
1:08:00incorporating the following. Um this is
1:08:03a madeup number, one-third. Um, I'd love
1:08:05people's thought thoughts on this, but
1:08:07to ensure that some some portion of the
1:08:10bid board um is made up of small
1:08:12business owners and operators, um,
1:08:15they're they're the lifeblood of of the
1:08:17corridor. Um, and having, uh, you know,
1:08:20folks that are running a business on the
1:08:22corridor, um, I think are the folks that
1:08:23are best positioned to say, "Hey, this
1:08:26is, you know, this is the direction that
1:08:27we think the the bid should go." um
1:08:30allocating uh one voting seat on the bid
1:08:32board to Howard University um which is
1:08:35something I think they've already
1:08:36considered allocating a non voting seat
1:08:39on the bid board um to ANC1B and each of
1:08:42the registered civic associations inside
1:08:44the bid. Um the reason for the nonvoting
1:08:47status is that these are dollars that
1:08:49are paid um by the businesses in taxes.
1:08:53Uh and it's important that the
1:08:55businesses are making decisions about
1:08:57how those dollars are spent. um because
1:09:00it's really focused on, you know,
1:09:02driving the business corridor. Uh the
1:09:04the residents, the ANC, the um the civic
1:09:07associations are not um paying any
1:09:09dollars into this. Uh and so you that
1:09:12that's the reason to have a voice um but
1:09:14also not to have a have a vote. Um same
1:09:16thing with the main street programs uh
1:09:19that they would have a non- voting seat.
1:09:21It's important that the main street
1:09:22programs are, you know, part of this
1:09:24conversation. Um but again the bid the
1:09:27main street programs receive their own
1:09:28dollars um from uh district agency. Uh
1:09:31and so again you not contributing
1:09:34directly to the to the bid funds. Um and
1:09:36so how those funds are used are you know
1:09:38really driven by by the folks who are
1:09:40paying the the bid taxes. Um and then
1:09:43finally that we request that the bid tax
1:09:44not be levied on apartment units that
1:09:47are designated as affordable under
1:09:48inclusionary zoning um to maintain the
1:09:50affordability of these units. Um, again,
1:09:52this is something that the bid
1:09:54organizers have already said. Um, that
1:09:56is our plan, but I think it's good,
1:09:58right, to be able to address these types
1:10:00of things um to the people that we're
1:10:02representing. Um, and it always makes me
1:10:04happy to be able to say, "Hey, this is
1:10:07something that the community thinks is
1:10:09important that are people that have been
1:10:11elected to represent you think that are
1:10:12important and gosh, the bid has already
1:10:14said they're going to do this." Um, so
1:10:17those those were the those were kind of
1:10:19the therefore clauses. It's primarily
1:10:20focused on yes, we support this and we
1:10:22support this specific model over other
1:10:24models. Um, and there's a couple of
1:10:26things that we would like you to take
1:10:28into account. Um, Tanya, I think this is
1:10:30maybe one of the places that we could
1:10:31add another therefore or two. um talking
1:10:34about some of the priorities, the kind
1:10:36of the future development priorities on
1:10:38the corridor, things that we would
1:10:40really like for them to advocate uh as
1:10:42they move forward so that it becomes the
1:10:44basis of our kind of conversation uh
1:10:46between the ANC and the civic
1:10:48associations and the main streets and
1:10:50the bids uh as we all move forward
1:10:52together to to do this work. Um so let
1:10:55me pause there and get uh questions,
1:10:57comments, feedback from the group.
1:11:00Krishna, go ahead. Yeah, the only one
1:11:04I'm a little worried about is the
1:11:08uh where we say that the the bid model
1:11:10is preferred over the NMA.
1:11:14>> Yes.
1:11:14>> Because I I mean I think that's a really
1:11:16tricky question and and I'm just
1:11:19wondering if we want to sort of make
1:11:21that a little strong that paragraph a
1:11:23little stronger.
1:11:25I'd be happy to make it stronger,
1:11:27>> you know, because it it it's just a
1:11:29declarative statement saying we prefer
1:11:31that, but it's not saying why we prefer
1:11:34that. And and I think that you know what
1:11:36it comes down to is that we think that
1:11:39the the that we you know I think the
1:11:42general the the preference that has been
1:11:44expressed by people is that we'd rather
1:11:46they'd rather
1:11:49have some control over how they're doing
1:11:51this rather than having an outside
1:11:53entity do it.
1:12:11you know, and I think there's a larger
1:12:13point about, you know, having people
1:12:16invested in the community on Ust Street,
1:12:19you know, and and and you know, that's
1:12:22how you create a strong community is
1:12:24having strong voices. But I mean, I
1:12:25don't want to get make that too long.
1:12:28>> Yeah.
1:12:32Uh yeah, I mean look, I think I'm going
1:12:35to just kind of say strong community
1:12:39principles principles that you know, you
1:12:41talked about. We'll see if we can figure
1:12:43those weigh in.
1:12:44>> Yeah, I I think we do need to make that
1:12:46more declarative. Um and I also think
1:12:48that we need to back it up because when
1:12:49when I think about, you know, where does
1:12:52my opposition um to the NMA come from?
1:12:55It's really what we've heard from uh
1:12:58business owners and others who have come
1:13:00to this committee and have talked about
1:13:01their concerns. Um and I agree with you
1:13:04in terms of that principle of the strong
1:13:06community. When you have people who are
1:13:08uh essentially paying in and being in
1:13:11charge of their own destiny, there's a
1:13:13lot more ownership um and a much higher
1:13:15uh chance of success than you've got
1:13:17something being being imposed on as an
1:13:20additional layer uh of government when
1:13:22people feel like they haven't gotten the
1:13:24support that they've they've needed.
1:13:25>> Yeah. And then the only other thing and
1:13:27I'm not sure you really want to this may
1:13:30not be the right time to address it
1:13:32which I understand is
1:13:36you know there's always going to be some
1:13:37confusion about where the clean team
1:13:39money goes and do we want to talk about
1:13:41that in this resolution or is that
1:13:43something you you think that we should
1:13:45save for later?
1:13:48>> Well, I mean let's talk about it for a
1:13:51second. Um my understanding is that the
1:13:54clean team money stays with the main
1:13:56street programs
1:13:59uh and that the bid tax is the the kind
1:14:02of the the primary revenue source that
1:14:04that supports the bid. Are you kind of
1:14:07operating with a different assumption?
1:14:09>> No, but I think it might just be good to
1:14:12make that clear.
1:14:14>> Okay. Is is is I'm wondering if there's
1:14:16any value in in in trying to articulate
1:14:18that in this resolution.
1:14:23or you know it I don't want to throw too
1:14:26much in here either. I mean so I I can
1:14:28if if you if we also say no that's
1:14:31that's just too much. We're confusing
1:14:32things. Uh I I I I
1:14:36got it.
1:14:40>> Um
1:14:41>> I personally think that that was like a
1:14:43little bit of a stretch
1:14:46>> um for this resolution but
1:14:48>> you think it is Tanya? Yeah, I think it
1:14:51just kind of now we're kind of
1:14:53commenting on
1:14:56the structure that is a little bit
1:14:58controversial or has had issues then.
1:15:01>> Okay.
1:15:02>> Yeah.
1:15:03>> Yeah.
1:15:03>> Let's let's do this. I I think it's an
1:15:05important topic, but I think it's really
1:15:07a topic that that needs to get uh some
1:15:10air with the Main Street programs and
1:15:12the and the bid um folks. Uh and and
1:15:15I've been talking with Alex Padro, too.
1:15:18um because he's obviously a very
1:15:19important he and Gretchen are important
1:15:20stakeholders um in all this. So I I
1:15:23think I'm with Tanya in the sense that
1:15:25let's leave it out of the actual
1:15:26language here, but it does need to be
1:15:28something that is uh part of the
1:15:30conversation uh going forward. Probably
1:15:32just not not one that we're we're
1:15:34driving.
1:15:35>> Yep, that's fine. I just wanted to raise
1:15:36it and thanks for the feedback.
1:15:38>> Yeah. No, thank you. Okay, Chris,
1:15:42anything else? And then I'll go to
1:15:43Howard.
1:15:44>> No. Okay, Howard?
1:15:47Yeah, going back to the wherees, um I
1:15:51think it would be helpful to include uh
1:15:54something as we've done in other uh
1:15:56resolutions
1:15:58specifically about the um historical and
1:16:01cultural significance of the Ust Street
1:16:03area and uh that um that's it's really a
1:16:08national treasure and um we can build on
1:16:11that and continue that
1:16:14uh
1:16:15u important role especially with the
1:16:18NAACP coming in um uh in this
1:16:21neighborhood and that a bid can help
1:16:23accomplish that. This is not and and
1:16:26that that'll signal to political leaders
1:16:29that this is not just another bid for
1:16:31some, you know, it's not like the war.
1:16:34Um uh this is an area that really needs
1:16:38special attention for very significant
1:16:40reasons. Uh
1:16:44>> I don't know how specific we or over we
1:16:46want to be about that but that I think
1:16:47we want to get that message across.
1:16:52>> Thanks Howard. I think that that's a
1:16:53good point particularly on the site of
1:16:56the NAACP. The Reev Center was there to
1:16:58try and draw businesses and was like the
1:17:02first attempt to do some kind of revival
1:17:05of US Street. And I think that that
1:17:07history and all of that is just a very
1:17:10good point. Thanks for raising it.
1:17:14>> You're welcome. And yeah, I mean, and we
1:17:16could talk about how development of aust
1:17:19street area is as a long historical
1:17:22process. We've made progress. Things
1:17:25have fallen back in the last 10 15
1:17:28years. Now, it's time to um move move
1:17:31forward once again. Um I I just don't
1:17:34want this to be so negative that people
1:17:37will just throw their hands up and say,
1:17:38"Oh, there's nothing we can do about Ust
1:17:40Street." Let's talk about the resources
1:17:41it has, the opportunities that are
1:17:43coming, and how we need to be positioned
1:17:46to take full advantage of that.
1:17:52>> Yep.
1:17:54No, I think Howard, that's the right
1:17:56that's the right kind of tone. Uh even
1:18:00though Right. Even though my my opening
1:18:02tone was a bit negative, [laughter]
1:18:05um I I like the aspirational and kind of
1:18:09where can we go and what does this help
1:18:10us achieve? Um focus. That's the right I
1:18:13that's the right pitch.
1:18:16>> Um Arlene, your hand.
1:18:19>> Go ahead.
1:18:20>> And I I just wanted to quickly add and
1:18:22that also makes us unique out of all of
1:18:24these other bids.
1:18:26>> I think that sets us apart. What do
1:18:29folks think about? Uh so what I think
1:18:32the naming that the bid organizers have
1:18:35been talking about is the Duke district
1:18:37bid. Um so uh like the soul of the city
1:18:41bid which is just formed uh on the
1:18:43Anacostia
1:18:45um uh in in Southeast uh is not you know
1:18:49named after its uh you know a street um
1:18:53or the the neighborhood name. Um, but
1:18:55the bid organizers have been talking
1:18:57about the Duke District bid and not the
1:19:00UT Street bid. Um, what do people think
1:19:03about that nomenclature?
1:19:06>> I I like I like that.
1:19:08>> Okay.
1:19:10>> I would prefer you Street because I
1:19:12think the known labels and not just here
1:19:15in DC, but in the surrounding areas and
1:19:19nationally even Duke district, I don't
1:19:21think people are going to know what that
1:19:23means. by
1:19:26>> it's an [clears throat] area around
1:19:28>> it's an area around a nice university
1:19:30down in North Carolina.
1:19:31>> Yes. [laughter]
1:19:34Um, no, I it's one to it's one to
1:19:37wrestle with, right? Because I I think
1:19:39it it speaks a lot to kind of what's the
1:19:41brand of the of the neighborhood and and
1:19:43Howard, one of the things that I I've
1:19:44also wrestled with is with is the idea
1:19:46that there are lots and lots of people
1:19:49who know Ust Street and um and Ust
1:19:52Street means actually lots of different
1:19:55um things to to different people. Um, a
1:19:57lot of which is kind of consistent with
1:20:00uh, you know, the black Broadway and uh,
1:20:02and the jazz kind of uh, you know,
1:20:05groundbreaking jazz that that that kind
1:20:07of came to life on Ust Street. But a lot
1:20:10of people think about Ust Street. Um, so
1:20:12all right, let's let's think about that
1:20:14and we'll kind of maybe do do a little
1:20:16bit of surveys and
1:20:17>> Well, I mean I mean literally I mean I
1:20:18think isn't our official name Street
1:20:21Cardo African-American Civil War Museum.
1:20:24I mean that's that's like you know
1:20:25coming from the metro stop. is this is
1:20:27our true legacy is that we have to have
1:20:29three names for everything here.
1:20:31[laughter]
1:20:33>> Tanya, were you going to say something
1:20:34else? Sorry.
1:20:37>> No, I I see why the Duke I mean Duke is
1:20:42it did you just say Duke or is it Duke
1:20:44Ellington? Is it just cutting it short?
1:20:48>> Just get just Duke. Yeah, Duke district.
1:20:50Just like the Duke plan.
1:20:53Uh
1:20:55yeah, that's that's something to to
1:20:58think about. I think Duke Ellington and
1:20:59of has a following just because of his
1:21:01music and jazz and so forth. And then
1:21:03also, you know, Ust Street initially
1:21:05when it was Ust Street, it was YOU. It
1:21:07wasn't this UT Street. So there's some
1:21:10things that I think that they can play
1:21:11on to kind of make it interesting and
1:21:14you unique and then maybe Duke Ellington
1:21:17is the next somehow the next sub of
1:21:20being Ust Street. But anyway, I think
1:21:23tableabling it so we can kind of look
1:21:24into it a little bit more, do some
1:21:26research is a good idea.
1:21:28>> Okay,
1:21:28>> I would Arlene, your h your hand is up.
1:21:31Is it still up or was it just a vestage
1:21:33of your last question?
1:21:34>> No, it's it's still up.
1:21:36>> Okay, great. Go ahead.
1:21:37>> Uh, under the better model, you might
1:21:39consider changing the wording to proven
1:21:42model.
1:21:43>> Yeah.
1:21:44um you know when you describe I forget
1:21:47which whereas clause that was but
1:21:49>> yeah it's actually I think
1:21:50[clears throat] uh it's under one of the
1:21:51therefors
1:21:53>> um therefore sorry yeah a proven model
1:21:56um as you mentioned before and um in one
1:22:00of the whereas therefore clauses you
1:22:03talk about
1:22:04zoning do being excluded do we have any
1:22:08rent controlled units in that area
1:22:10should is that something we need to um
1:22:14also
1:22:16take into consideration and make sure
1:22:17that they are not um included in this.
1:22:20>> I'm not even sure if we have rent
1:22:22controlled units in that area.
1:22:24>> I don't think that they are in the
1:22:26actual bid map, but but that's a good
1:22:29point to go and check that.
1:22:31>> Yeah, just to make any kind of um
1:22:33affordable housing um units exempt.
1:22:36>> Yeah. And and one of the things I want
1:22:38to be really clear on is that is that
1:22:40the bid folks have actually already said
1:22:42this is this is what we're planning to
1:22:44do, right? We're not going to have the
1:22:45bid tax on on on affordable housing in
1:22:48these in these. So, we're not even
1:22:50asking for that. We're just codifying
1:22:52it. But that's something they had
1:22:54already said. This is important to us. I
1:22:55just want to you want to give them
1:22:57credit for that.
1:22:58>> Um and then I think it's good. Let's
1:23:00let's take a quick look and see if we've
1:23:01got any rent controlled units in the bid
1:23:03map. uh and then you know add that
1:23:05language as well.
1:23:07>> Okay. And one last comment. Do you do
1:23:09you happen to know how many civic
1:23:11associations are in this uh corridor?
1:23:14>> Um I am aware of at least three. Uh the
1:23:18US Street Neighborhood Association, the
1:23:20Westminster Neighborhood Association, um
1:23:23and Lloyd Park. Lloyd Park is only going
1:23:25to be on the very very edge of it. Um,
1:23:28so we'd probably have to look at the
1:23:29actual map, but Westminster and Ust
1:23:32Street are definitely uh in the midst of
1:23:34the of the bid area.
1:23:38Yeah, Dupon Circle extends um up to
1:23:41Florida and over to um um 18th Street.
1:23:45So, uh yeah, 18th Street. So, that um
1:23:48that would also be included if you're
1:23:50talking about 161 17 U Street, uh that's
1:23:52included in the DCCA area. The map
1:23:56actually only goes to 16th Street. Um.
1:23:59>> Ah, okay.
1:24:00>> So, it's going to be just the the east
1:24:02side of of 16th. Is the Dupont Circle um
1:24:05Civic Association. They don't they don't
1:24:07go west of 16th, do they? Oh, sorry,
1:24:10east of 16th.
1:24:11>> Um, take a quick look at the map. But if
1:24:14you're talking about 1670 New Street as
1:24:17a as an example, then I mean that's
1:24:20definitely DCCA uh boundaries.
1:24:23>> Okay. And so if maybe you should not
1:24:26talk about that then. Um but let me see
1:24:30the boundaries. Um it does yes it does
1:24:33go on the east side of um of Ust Street.
1:24:37It goes up to Florida and then at 15th
1:24:41Street it goes south to Ust Street and
1:24:46then east to 14th Street and on 14th
1:24:50Street it goes south to S Street. So,
1:24:53yeah, it does include part of UT Street
1:24:55there.
1:24:56>> Okay, we'll take a look at the maps and
1:24:57then we'll uh take a look at the
1:24:59recommendation. It's the kind of thing
1:25:00where I think if we have if we have uh
1:25:03four different civic associations, maybe
1:25:05there's a rotation that we'd be asking
1:25:07for as opposed to, you know,
1:25:10you said street, Westminster, and what
1:25:12was the other one?
1:25:13>> There's French Street.
1:25:16>> Uh
1:25:16>> French Street is
1:25:19>> Go ahead. French Street would definitely
1:25:21not be in the mid area.
1:25:24>> Okay. Cuz that's south of S.
1:25:27>> Yeah. Yeah.
1:25:28>> So, U Street, Westminster, and what was
1:25:30the other one you first said?
1:25:32>> Lloyd Park.
1:25:33>> Oh, Leroy Park. Thank you.
1:25:36>> That that one would only touch the
1:25:37corner of the bed.
1:25:40>> Okay.
1:25:41>> All right.
1:25:43Other thoughts on the uh the therefors?
1:25:47>> Yes. Um, I'd like to say something about
1:25:52the name. First of all, maybe Ustree and
1:25:55Duke District. I mean, just as a
1:25:57catchall, one could be dropped later,
1:25:59but they sort of expand and and work off
1:26:03each other. Uh, but I wanted to say on
1:26:06on also on the bid numbers, uh, like I
1:26:09think there's 13 bids in the district.
1:26:11>> Yes. And it's a model that's been um uh
1:26:15I I think 25 years here in the district
1:26:19I think. Uh I think the first one was in
1:26:22Washington and that might have been
1:26:24about 25 or 30 years ago. So I think the
1:26:27length of the this model too is is of
1:26:31import
1:26:33both here and and and nationally but but
1:26:36here with the 13 bids I guess and I
1:26:38guess it is for yep 25 years.
1:26:41>> Great. Nope. That's good. This is
1:26:43getting more more kind of facts and
1:26:45figures into our into our narrative.
1:26:47Okay great. Thanks Frank. What else?
1:26:50>> That's it for me.
1:26:52>> Okay. Cool.
1:26:54Um, all right. So, let's do this. I've
1:26:57got a bunch of rewriting to do. Um, I
1:27:01really like the There's a couple of big
1:27:03themes. First off, big themes that came
1:27:05out of this. I think the first big theme
1:27:06is uh
1:27:09we're not going to we're not going to be
1:27:11able to do full justice to it. I almost
1:27:12think there's a different document that
1:27:14we all might want to put our heads uh
1:27:15heads together on, and that is
1:27:17describing essentially a future state of
1:27:19US Street. Um, because we've been
1:27:21talking about it for a long time. Uh,
1:27:23and I think we've got some really
1:27:24well-formed thoughts that just need to
1:27:26get put on paper. But I think kind of
1:27:28framing up a basic kind of a
1:27:30aspirational future for Ust Street. Um,
1:27:32rooting that in the rich history and
1:27:34tradition of this nationally kind of uh
1:27:38treasured space uh and asking the bid to
1:27:41be a partner right in advancing those
1:27:44goals. Um the second big theme is uh
1:27:47what Howard had said is let's let's
1:27:49change the tenor uh of the the document
1:27:52and the story to one of kind of
1:27:55forward-looking and positive. Um and
1:27:58then I think we've got a number of very
1:28:00specific uh kind of elements of
1:28:02language. Sorry. The third big theme is
1:28:04uh we need to be more kind of
1:28:06declarative about kind of our preference
1:28:09for the bid structure. um and we need to
1:28:11be kind of more substantive in providing
1:28:15uh kind of a backup uh and a base for
1:28:17for that recommendation and for that
1:28:19position. Um and then I've got some you
1:28:21know number of changes to be made. Let
1:28:23me kind of put this question to our our
1:28:25group here. Um given what we have kind
1:28:28of read and then also given what we have
1:28:30looked at um and and kind of talked
1:28:32through uh are we comfortable as a group
1:28:36uh voting on a resolution of support uh
1:28:40to take to the ANC meeting next week and
1:28:43that I send uh a redline version back to
1:28:46all of you for a final round of edits uh
1:28:48in advance of next Thursday's meeting.
1:28:55>> Okay. Yeah. Uh and my my reason for
1:28:57asking that is that what what we're
1:28:58trying to do is anticipate that uh the
1:29:02signatures would be done and the
1:29:04legislation could be drafted um possibly
1:29:07before the next ANC meeting. Uh and so
1:29:10we would want to just make sure that we
1:29:12were able to convey this level of uh of
1:29:15support. Um so let's let's do this and
1:29:18and I guess Krishna I guess the last
1:29:20question maybe that we wrestled with a
1:29:21little bit is um do we want to be
1:29:25stronger still on the kind of that we
1:29:28want the bid and not the NMA um do we
1:29:32want that kind of in this document as
1:29:34kind of its own in addition to saying
1:29:36here's why we like the bid do we want to
1:29:38have do we want to say anything more
1:29:39direct about um opposition oh my god
1:29:44Sorry. [clears throat]
1:29:46So, I'm sitting here and my cat is not
1:29:48getting enough attention and so he just
1:29:49lunged up and bit my arm. [laughter]
1:29:53Fine, but I was not expecting that. I'm
1:29:57sorry. Um Oh, stop buddy. You can't do
1:30:01that. Um let's do uh do we want to get
1:30:05do we want to get more clear uh Krishna
1:30:07on that?
1:30:09>> I I feel like what you added in that
1:30:11language would be sufficient. I think
1:30:14just just adding an additional paragraph
1:30:16saying that and then just tying it in to
1:30:20you know that we have in in the whereas
1:30:22clauses that we've had previous you know
1:30:25series of meetings on this is it's it's
1:30:27it's there's been at least
1:30:29six I think that I can
1:30:32to to think about you know between the
1:30:34economic development committee and the
1:30:36various small business meetings. So I
1:30:38think that's a pretty good number.
1:30:40>> Yeah, I agree with that. Okay. Howard,
1:30:43uh, did you just raise your hand again?
1:30:45Sorry. Yeah.
1:30:45>> Yeah. Um, [clears throat] could you tell
1:30:47us uh do other members of the ANC have
1:30:51any preferences to your knowledge for a
1:30:54bid versus an NMA?
1:30:56Um, that we should maybe address here or
1:31:00>> Yeah. Um,
1:31:03generally speaking, um, most of the
1:31:05folks uh have expressed their support
1:31:08for a for a bid. Um uh I will I will say
1:31:12this one there is unanimous support
1:31:15amongst the U the ANC for a place
1:31:18management entity on the corridor.
1:31:20Right. People have been you know this
1:31:22has been a big theme of ours over the
1:31:24last two years is that like the ANC can
1:31:28only do so much. Um and one of the
1:31:30things that I regularly say is that we
1:31:32get like $24,000 a year. A bid's going
1:31:36to get 1.5 million. I mean, it's just
1:31:38like you you need the money to be able
1:31:40to make investments. The the ANC can't
1:31:42can't do all the things that we'd love
1:31:44to be able to do. Um, so people people
1:31:47see the need for uh and want a place
1:31:49management entity. For a period of time,
1:31:53there were folks who were, I think,
1:31:54fairly um uh neutral because they said,
1:31:58"Well, we don't know which one's going
1:31:59to actually get traction." And so, you
1:32:01know, people have been open-minded. Um,
1:32:04as we have had more conversations and
1:32:06gotten more feedback from businesses uh
1:32:08on the NMA, as the bid has gotten
1:32:11traction and as we've talked about it,
1:32:13um, uh, my sense is that there is more
1:32:17support for, uh, for the bid. Um, and
1:32:20it's one of the conversations that we're
1:32:22going to need to have at our u, we're
1:32:23probably actually going to talk a little
1:32:24bit here in a minute about the the
1:32:26upcoming NMA um, hearing. Um, but I know
1:32:30that that
1:32:32I know that several members are very
1:32:34clear in their thinking about the bid
1:32:36being the format that they would like to
1:32:38see on UST Street. There are a couple of
1:32:41people who despite saying the bid is a
1:32:43good format for UST Street have said but
1:32:46Colombia Heights doesn't seem to be
1:32:48making any progress with a bid and maybe
1:32:50the NMA is the solution for Colombia
1:32:53Heights. Um, so I I think that that and
1:32:57I don't know actually how many hearings
1:32:58the uh the ANC1A for Columbia Heights
1:33:01have held um with business owners on the
1:33:03NMA. So I don't know what kind of
1:33:05feedback that they've gotten. Um but we
1:33:07have gotten very clear feedback from our
1:33:09business owners about their preference.
1:33:11Um and I have conveyed that that
1:33:13feedback to my you know my colleagues um
1:33:15and have had conversations with with
1:33:17many of them to say that probably the
1:33:19majority of people are um very strongly
1:33:21in the in the pro bid uh pro bid
1:33:24structure camp.
1:33:26>> Okay.
1:33:30>> There's a bunch of hands up here so I
1:33:31want to make sure I'm following them.
1:33:33Andrew is your hand new.
1:33:38Okay. Uh Frank,
1:33:41>> yes. Uh I think it probably is important
1:33:46to further elaborate on the amount of of
1:33:50of outreach or uh feedback sought
1:33:55through all the meetings and I think
1:33:57Krishna if he's correct with the six
1:33:58meetings that the economic development
1:34:01committee held uh but um also I think
1:34:05there was several at least at the ANC
1:34:09full meeting there was uh outreach reach
1:34:11to lots of business too. All right. So I
1:34:14know I don't know how much how many
1:34:16resources but how many meetings
1:34:18explicitly uh were were performed for
1:34:22outreach. So showing and and garnering
1:34:25elucidating the support that the
1:34:27community has with with these meetings
1:34:30and and outreach is is is important to
1:34:33articulate here. So, a few more lines in
1:34:36that area to burgeon the voice and the
1:34:40amount of work that's been done and the
1:34:42outreach and the feedback we've gotten.
1:34:44Uh, and even perhaps to the extent that
1:34:47have there been any loud voices, have we
1:34:51heard from anybody that wants an NMA
1:34:54from the community? Have we heard any
1:34:57small business owners?
1:34:59>> Have we heard any large business owners?
1:35:01Have we heard any residents say that
1:35:04they want the NMA? So, one line about
1:35:07that that might be not, you know,
1:35:11pessimistic or or or not taking away
1:35:14from work that was done on the NMA, but
1:35:17advocating for the bid and all the work
1:35:20done in one paragraph.
1:35:23>> Okay.
1:35:26>> Yeah. I I I think we do need to be
1:35:27declarative uh in this resolution
1:35:29because both are on the table right now.
1:35:32Um and we'll talk in just a moment about
1:35:33the the timeline for the the hearing on
1:35:36the on the neighborhood management
1:35:37authority. Um but the uh I think we do
1:35:40need to be clear about the preference
1:35:42and then uh to the important points made
1:35:44tonight be clear about why um and Frank
1:35:47all the points you made are are are you
1:35:49know correct right we've had a lot a lot
1:35:51of forums where we've had a lot of
1:35:52opportunity for discussion and feedback
1:35:55uh and we've heard very clear feedback
1:35:57um you know specifically from businesses
1:36:00uh about what their preference is and
1:36:02where they felt like uh the bid model um
1:36:04to them felt stronger.
1:36:09All right. So, with that said, um I will
1:36:12I will uh Krishna, do you want to move
1:36:15uh the resol the resolution uh with uh
1:36:19authority to to edit and to share back
1:36:21with this group in advance of the ANC
1:36:23full meeting in on Thursday?
1:36:26>> Uh yes. Uh
1:36:28am I making the first one or am I
1:36:30seconding this?
1:36:31>> Uh if you don't mind making it, that'd
1:36:33be great.
1:36:34>> Okay, great. Uh, I'd like to say that we
1:36:37uh move forward on this resolution as
1:36:39proposed with technical edits uh due
1:36:42back to the committee before the ANC
1:36:44meeting uh in support of uh of a bid.
1:36:50Is
1:36:50>> there a second?
1:36:51>> Great. Uh all in favor uh just uh raise
1:36:55your raise your hand if you're on camera
1:36:56and raise your uh there you go. One,
1:36:58two, three,
1:37:01six of six. Tanya, your hands have been
1:37:03up most of the night. So, I just want to
1:37:05make sure you are supportive. I think
1:37:07you are.
1:37:08>> Yes.
1:37:09>> Okay. Great. So, six of six. It passes
1:37:12unanimously. Great. All right. Thank you
1:37:14everybody. Um and look for edits. I'm
1:37:16going to work on this uh probably on
1:37:18Saturday morning and send it around to
1:37:20everybody. So, keep an eye out and and
1:37:21please continue to send edits back. Um
1:37:25uh I think we're we're agreed on our
1:37:26principles and we'll uh we'll word smith
1:37:28over the weekend. Um the the last item
1:37:31on the agenda and we're going to keep
1:37:32this relatively short um because we are
1:37:34already at 8:41. Um so the the other uh
1:37:38the other kind of place management um
1:37:40focus is on uh the neighborhood
1:37:43management authority. It's legislation
1:37:45that that you all have read uh you have
1:37:48all kind of been part of conversations
1:37:49about um you have heard feedback from
1:37:52the community. Uh and that uh that
1:37:55legislation was assigned by the chair to
1:37:57two separate committees. Uh, one is
1:37:59transportation, the other is health. Uh,
1:38:02Charles Allen chairs transportation. Uh,
1:38:04Matt Fman chair chairs health. Uh, and
1:38:07so, uh, Charles Allen has scheduled a
1:38:09hearing uh, on the neighborhood
1:38:12management authority uh, for uh,
1:38:15September 24th. I will forward that uh,
1:38:18hearing announcement around um, to all
1:38:20of you. Um it's a little bit uh tricky I
1:38:24think in the sense that um there's
1:38:26actually multiple topics that are going
1:38:28to be heard uh at this particular uh
1:38:31hearing. Um and so you'll see both of
1:38:34those. Uh one is for PorchFest
1:38:37and uh and the application and approval
1:38:39process for PorchFest uh kind of
1:38:42participation and the other one is the
1:38:43neighborhood management authority. Uh,
1:38:46and so what I would do is I would
1:38:48encourage you um if you have uh a
1:38:52position on the the neighborhood
1:38:54management authority. Uh I would
1:38:56encourage you to participate in the uh
1:38:59in the hearing on the 24th. I I will be
1:39:01going. Um I know that other members of
1:39:04the ANC will be uh will be
1:39:06participating. Um but you know I I think
1:39:09that there's a couple of things that are
1:39:10on my mind right now. The first is that
1:39:12the neighborhood management authority
1:39:14legislation uh is written in such a way
1:39:17that it essentially prevents a bid um
1:39:20from coexisting with the NMA. Um and
1:39:23specifically what it proposes is that if
1:39:25a bid is to be formed um all the bid tax
1:39:28revenue would go to the NMA and the NMA
1:39:30would take over the bid. Uh and what I
1:39:33have heard from the the business owners
1:39:35is that, you know, they want to be able
1:39:38to have a seat at the table. Uh if
1:39:41they're going to tax themselves, they
1:39:42want to have a seat at the table to to
1:39:44drive the direction of this um you know,
1:39:46of the decisions about the uh you what
1:39:49happens when investments are made in the
1:39:51community. Um and so it's important that
1:39:54those voices that we heard uh you know
1:39:57in the the winter of 25 um make it to
1:40:01this uh to this hearing um so that the
1:40:04kind of the full view can be um can be
1:40:06presented and discussed uh and that
1:40:08Charles Allen who did not participate in
1:40:10our economic development committee
1:40:12meetings and members of that committee
1:40:14who did not participate in our economic
1:40:16development committee meetings um can
1:40:17hear right from the business owners but
1:40:19also from you as committee members.
1:40:22uh and from you know members of the of
1:40:24the ANC. So um I want to highlight that
1:40:27to folks. I will send around to you a
1:40:29copy of the legislation which is
1:40:31unchanged since it was submitted in
1:40:33January of 25 because there hasn't been
1:40:35a hearing to mark it up. Uh I'll send
1:40:38you the hearing. Um and then I would
1:40:39encourage you to uh you know to to
1:40:42register to to speak um you know on the
1:40:45things that we've heard. Uh and if
1:40:47you've got questions or you've got
1:40:48comments a we can talk about them now.
1:40:50But I also, you know, feel free to reach
1:40:51out um, you know, to to me uh, or, you
1:40:55know, others who have been, you know,
1:40:56probably more involved in reading
1:40:58through the NMA language. Happy to talk
1:41:00through it. Um, but let me just kind of
1:41:02pause and see if there's any kind of
1:41:03just general questions or comments on
1:41:05the the neighborhood management
1:41:06authority uh legislation things that
1:41:09people are particularly focused on,
1:41:11recommendations or thoughts uh about,
1:41:14you know, how we want to kind of raise
1:41:16the community voice uh as we kind of get
1:41:19to. And then of course on the 24th
1:41:32Sorry, cat antics behind me.
1:41:39Okay. Um, so I think we're good there.
1:41:42The only other thing that I would say uh
1:41:44is just and and this is something that
1:41:46we have um uh that we have talked about
1:41:49is uh if you have folks that you have um
1:41:53good personal relationships with who are
1:41:56running businesses who are owning
1:41:58commercial real estate on uh the US
1:42:00Street corridor. um if you can reach out
1:42:03to them uh and uh and you know introduce
1:42:06me or introduce the Michaels Michael
1:42:09Wagner and Michael McCarthy who are
1:42:11leading the bid bid organ organizing
1:42:13effort. Um, I I feel very very
1:42:17passionate and I'm incredibly committed
1:42:20to making sure that as many small
1:42:22business owners um as many small uh
1:42:26commercial real estate owners as
1:42:27possible um are directly involved in
1:42:30these bid discussions um upfront. Um,
1:42:34we've done a a lot of work to to really
1:42:36kind of get people's email addresses and
1:42:38to reach out to them and to invite them
1:42:40to conversations and we've scheduled
1:42:43kind of breakout sessions for for small
1:42:45business owners to talk about, you know,
1:42:47their priorities, their needs, what they
1:42:49would like to get from the bid and so
1:42:51that the bid folks can also, you know,
1:42:52learn more about those priorities. Um,
1:42:54but it's going to take, you know, more
1:42:56relationships than just I have. And so
1:42:58where you've got those relationships,
1:43:00I'll ask if you can uh you know, reach
1:43:02out to them, make those introductions.
1:43:04I'll send you Michael and Michael's
1:43:05emails uh tonight so that you can reach
1:43:08out to them. Um thank you uh Mario. Um
1:43:12and uh and we'll make sure that we uh
1:43:16that we get folks connected because
1:43:17again, part of what we're trying to do
1:43:19is create success, but the really real
1:43:21thing we're trying to do is also um
1:43:23really kind of uh create community. And
1:43:26the more people that we're able to
1:43:27connect with, uh, the better and
1:43:28stronger that community is going to be.
1:43:33Anything else? Uh, anything else that
1:43:36folks have on their agenda? Any other
1:43:38kind of final questions um that members
1:43:41of the community have?
1:43:45>> Hey, Matt. uh on the second committee
1:43:48hearing for the NMA. I believe it's been
1:43:52a bit since I've looked, but I believe
1:43:54the other committee is economic
1:43:55development committee and that committee
1:43:57went away. So is um I'll check my facts
1:44:02here, but if that's the case, is there
1:44:07only one hearing and is this it?
1:44:10>> No. Um so good good question. Um, my
1:44:12understanding is that the second
1:44:13committee is going to be Matt Fman's
1:44:15committee. Um, and I don't know if Matt
1:44:18Fman is is doing it because of health,
1:44:20which is sorry, health committee, which
1:44:22is one of the things that I've heard,
1:44:24but it also could be that I think he
1:44:26might be kind of tending to economic
1:44:28development um, in the interim, right?
1:44:30All the committee assignments will be
1:44:32uh, you know, redone come January. And
1:44:35so I think he might be kind of the
1:44:37steward of of economic development
1:44:39activities um for a brief period of
1:44:42time. Um but it does need to go through
1:44:45two committees. Um my understanding is
1:44:47that it does not need to have two
1:44:48separate hearings. Um, and so the the
1:44:52hearing on the 24th will be I think we
1:44:54should plan on being the one hearing and
1:44:57the one opportunity to um to bring uh
1:45:00the community's perspective um to uh to
1:45:04the council members um on that committee
1:45:06so that they can hear firsthand uh you
1:45:08know what what people are thinking and
1:45:10seeing, concerns that they have, support
1:45:12that they may have. Uh but it's
1:45:14important that we take advantage of that
1:45:16that hearing on the 24th because it will
1:45:18frank likely be the the one and only.
1:45:27All right. Um I am going to wonder if I
1:45:30can do this. With that said, nothing
1:45:31else. Uh 8:49
1:45:34>> Matt, sorry Matt, can I just Yeah,
1:45:37sorry. I had my hand raised. Um, can you
1:45:39just remind us is that NMA bill
1:45:42districtwide or it's specific just to
1:45:45our area? I forget.
1:45:47>> Yeah, good question. Um, it is geography
1:45:50specific. Uh, the way that council
1:45:52member Naido wrote it, um, she wrote it
1:45:54for, uh, both Ust Street and for
1:45:59Colombia Heights. uh the powers,
1:46:03authorities, and scope of of work are
1:46:06are largely the same um for both.
1:46:09There's a couple of differences. Um I've
1:46:11got your email address, so I'm happy to
1:46:13send you the legislation as well. Um but
1:46:15it it kind of contemplates performance
1:46:17parking zone funding uh on Ust Street
1:46:20and an additional alcohol tax in
1:46:23Colombia Heights to fund that. Um, plus
1:46:26there's, you know, some other kind of,
1:46:28uh, other funding sources that it
1:46:30contemplates. Um, but that's one of the
1:46:31differences is just kind of how it's
1:46:33funded. Um, the other thing that is, uh,
1:46:35unique to UST Street is that the the
1:46:37neighborhood management authority uh,
1:46:40considers taking over uh, the management
1:46:43and the essentially the ownership uh, of
1:46:46both the Howard Theater and the Lincoln
1:46:48Theater um, which are of course, you
1:46:50know, DC properties. Um, but it would
1:46:53essentially move them out of the
1:46:55district portfolio and into the NMA
1:46:57portfolio. Um, so yeah, that that's
1:47:00another one of the differences that's
1:47:01more specific to, you know, obviously
1:47:02what what is on what's on UST Street. So
1:47:05yeah, I I'll send it to you, but it is
1:47:07only for those two. It is not uh it is
1:47:10not for um and Frank actually has put
1:47:13the NMA legislation link in the chat, so
1:47:15anybody who wants to pull that up can.
1:47:17Um, but yeah, it's not for the whole
1:47:19city. It would be for those two
1:47:20geographies. Okay. So, yeah, geography
1:47:23specific. Okay. So, when they consider
1:47:24that bill,
1:47:27what if it and if it passes, it would
1:47:30pass for both Colombia Heights and Ust
1:47:34Street? I mean, or would they consider
1:47:36it separately? [laughter] I don't know.
1:47:37>> Well, it's a good question, right? And
1:47:39and we've raised um we've raised some
1:47:42actually very direct questions and
1:47:44concerns to the council member. One of
1:47:46the very direct concerns that we've
1:47:48raised to the council member uh is look,
1:47:51you're telling us that you support a bid
1:47:54and yet you wrote legislation that would
1:47:57uh essentially subsume a bid under the
1:48:00NMA. Um there seems to be a conflict
1:48:03here. And what she said is, well, I
1:48:05could revise the bill, but I can't
1:48:07revise the bill until the bill gets a
1:48:09hearing.
1:48:11we have said, gosh, you know, it seems
1:48:13like Ust Street and Columbia Heights
1:48:15should be considered very differently.
1:48:17Um, and she said the same, right? I
1:48:19can't revise the bill till the bill gets
1:48:20a hearing. So, there is the there is the
1:48:22opportunity for the committee itself to
1:48:25mark up the bill and to make some
1:48:27significant changes. Um, and uh and so
1:48:30that again, but they're not going to
1:48:32mark up the bill and they're not going
1:48:33to make changes unless they hear from
1:48:35the community. Right? If the community
1:48:37says it's a non-starter
1:48:39that an NMA would take over the bid, um
1:48:42if they don't hear that, then where's
1:48:45the reason to to make that change? Um
1:48:47and so again, things that that we're
1:48:49looking at and saying, you know, we need
1:48:50to make sure that concerns that we have
1:48:52or adjustments we'd want to make or
1:48:55improvements we'd like to see, uh we
1:48:57have to go and testify, um so that those
1:48:59can be considered as changes to the
1:49:01legislation as it's written today.
1:49:04>> Good. That that clarifies it. Thank you.
1:49:06Yep. All right, Tanya, is your hand up
1:49:08again?
1:49:11>> I'm on my mobile phone. I've been trying
1:49:13to put it down, but you know,
1:49:15>> I just didn't want to.
1:49:16>> I don't know what I'm doing. No,
1:49:17[laughter] I'm done.
1:49:19>> I didn't want to end the meeting without
1:49:20checking in. All right, everybody. Thank
1:49:22you all so much for tonight. Really
1:49:24appreciate it. Committee members, look
1:49:25for the language over the weekend. Uh we
1:49:28are adjourning at 8:53. Have a good
1:49:30night, everybody.
1:49:31>> Good night. Thanks, Rob.
1:49:32>> Good night. Thanks.

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