AUDI Q8 - Engine Loses Power intermittently - Limp Mode - WHY?? Code P0299 - Diagnosis! — Transcript
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- 0:00What? Boost we built.
- 0:03What? Drive system malfunction.
- 0:07There's a light that came on.
- 0:09Use
- 0:11it however the camera is. Yeah, see how
- 0:13See that? There's oil in there.
- 0:14>> Hello viewers. Welcome to Kids Auto and
- 0:17Truck Repair. Today we have a 2021
- 0:20Audi Q8 with a 3.0 L engine. The
- 0:25customer complaint on this vehicle is
- 0:27the check engine light is remaining on
- 0:29on the dash while the engine is running
- 0:31and the vehicle is losing power. She
- 0:34told me especially when she's going up a
- 0:36hill, the vehicle is losing power
- 0:39tremendously. So, the first thing we're
- 0:41going to do is we're going to go in the
- 0:43vehicle and confirm the customer's
- 0:45complaint. We might have to take it on a
- 0:47test drive and see how it drives. And
- 0:49after that, we're going to scan the
- 0:52engine computer to see what codes we
- 0:53have and then we'll go from there.
- 0:55Behind the camera, we have cameraman
- 0:57Kyler. So now, let's go in the vehicle
- 1:00so we can confirm the customer's
- 1:02complaint. So, I'm going to start the
- 1:04engine first.
- 1:07So, as you can hear,
- 1:09the engine is running.
- 1:13We have a message on the dash that says
- 1:15reduce engine oil
- 1:18and then the check engine light is on.
- 1:21This vehicle has 90,000 mi
- 1:25315. That's not a lot.
- 1:28Okay. So, the check engine light is on
- 1:29on the dash. I'm going to show you the
- 1:31dash so you can see the check engine
- 1:33light. So, right there, as you can see,
- 1:36the check engine light is on on the
- 1:37dash. So, that's customer's complaint
- 1:40confirmed. I'm going to turn off the
- 1:42engine.
- 1:43Let me start it again. I'm going to show
- 1:44you the message
- 1:46that was on when I first started it.
- 1:48Right there. Reduce
- 1:50oil level. So, it looks like this engine
- 1:53has
- 1:54too much oil in it.
- 1:56Okay. So, I'm going to turn off the
- 1:58engine.
- 1:59So, there's too much oil in the engine.
- 2:01We're going to have to check that for
- 2:03her.
- 2:04Please reduce oil level. The scan tool
- 2:07dongle is connected.
- 2:09Now, let's scan the engine computer and
- 2:11see what codes we have.
- 2:15This is an Audi.
- 2:18It's a 2021.
- 2:20So, right there, vehicle has been
- 2:22identified.
- 2:232021 Audi Q8 with a 3.0 L engine.
- 2:28Let's click okay.
- 2:30Let's do a code scan on this.
- 2:34Let's see what codes we have.
- 2:35Oh, right there.
- 2:38P0299
- 2:41We are very familiar with this code,
- 2:42guys.
- 2:44It says turbo supercharger under boost
- 2:47or low boost, basically.
- 2:49There's a low boost code, Kyler.
- 2:51>> Mhm.
- 2:53>> What do you think is causing that?
- 2:54>> I don't know.
- 2:55>> You don't know?
- 2:57We fixed a similar issue
- 3:00a couple months ago.
- 3:03>> It could be a couple things.
- 3:05>> Could be a couple things, right?
- 3:07Now,
- 3:08uh I'm sure on the generic side of the
- 3:10scan tool, it's going to say low boost
- 3:12or supercharger
- 3:15um
- 3:16low boost. Now, this code, this P0299
- 3:20code, can be caused by a defective turbo
- 3:24or a leak in the induction system, so
- 3:27between the turbo and the intake
- 3:29manifold.
- 3:31Um a turbo actuator
- 3:34uh wiring that's defective or a turbo
- 3:37actuator that's bad.
- 3:39So, it could be a couple things.
- 3:41Even a boost a a defective uh
- 3:45boost pressure sensor can cause this
- 3:47also.
- 3:48But, the chances of having a defective
- 3:53boost uh sensor is very low.
- 3:56So, what's really common on these is
- 3:58turbos. The turbos on these fail very,
- 4:02very uh easily.
- 4:05Okay, so they're notorious of failing.
- 4:09Actually, I was talking to a friend of
- 4:10mine at the
- 4:11Audi dealership. He told me that they
- 4:13stock a lot of them because they go
- 4:16through them a lot. So, even the
- 4:18dealership, even the Audi people
- 4:19themselves, they know that these
- 4:22turbos don't last. Okay, so let's scroll
- 4:24down and see what else we have.
- 4:27We have one code in the central
- 4:29electronics.
- 4:31We have five codes in the diagnostic
- 4:35data interface gateway.
- 4:38I'm going to notify the customer about
- 4:40all these other codes.
- 4:42But in this video, we're going to focus
- 4:45on the low boost code that we have. So,
- 4:48on the generic side of the tool, we have
- 4:50P0299,
- 4:52turbocharger {slash} supercharger
- 4:55A under boost condition. So,
- 4:58low boost.
- 4:59So now, first thing I'm going to do is I
- 5:01want to go into the engine computer.
- 5:04Let's look at some data.
- 5:07Let's look at some data pids.
- 5:09I want to see my boost pressure data
- 5:12pid. So, right here. Actually,
- 5:15this is kind of
- 5:17a side note here.
- 5:19Engine oil level. Let's see what's the
- 5:20data there. Oh, current or current value
- 5:24oil level is at 158.2%.
- 5:29Yep. Whoever did the oil change last put
- 5:31too much oil in this.
- 5:33We're going to have to lower
- 5:35the oil level.
- 5:37Actually, the customer told me
- 5:40She told me the name of the shop, but
- 5:42I'm not going to say the name, okay?
- 5:43We're We're not here to like bash other
- 5:45people, okay?
- 5:47We're are here to work with other shops,
- 5:49not make not throw them under the bus,
- 5:51but the customer told me
- 5:54Actually, the customer lives nearby. She
- 5:55doesn't live far from here.
- 5:57She told me she bought the car, you
- 6:00know, about a year or two ago.
- 6:02She was taking it to the dealer all the
- 6:04time and
- 6:05one day she decided to use another shop
- 6:07nearby. She took it there for an oil
- 6:09change. They changed the oil and then
- 6:11after she picked it up, there was a
- 6:12light on the dash that it was saying oil
- 6:14level too much.
- 6:16Or release or reduce oil level. She took
- 6:19it there for the second time. They
- 6:20changed the lowered the oil level.
- 6:23The light was still on. And then she got
- 6:25so frustrated she never went back. And
- 6:27actually she asked me, she said, "Deal,
- 6:29you know, I was searching for shops
- 6:32online and then I came across your shop.
- 6:34I watched the videos. I like how you
- 6:36guys do things
- 6:37and I felt comfortable bringing my car
- 6:39over here based on the videos that I
- 6:41saw." And then she also told me, "Can
- 6:43you look at the message I have on the
- 6:44dash?" It says
- 6:46uh reduce oil level. I was like, "It
- 6:48looks like there was there's too much
- 6:50oil in it." He said, "Yeah." She said,
- 6:51"Yes. I mean
- 6:53I took it to a shop. They reduced it for
- 6:55me, but the light keeps coming back on."
- 6:56So,
- 6:58there's a possibility that there's too
- 7:00much oil in it or maybe the oil level
- 7:02sensor is failing. That's possible, but
- 7:05we're going to have to check it out. So,
- 7:07let's back out here. What I would
- 7:08recommend is I'm probably going to
- 7:10recommend an oil change. We're going to
- 7:11drain the oil out of the engine and then
- 7:14we're going to fill it back up to the
- 7:15correct level.
- 7:18Because when you I mean this is the
- 7:20other thing that
- 7:21I mean, some of you might know, but some
- 7:23of you may not know.
- 7:25When you
- 7:26fill up the engine, when you fill the
- 7:28oil level on these
- 7:30uh engines, sometimes you have to
- 7:33lower it a little bit because when you
- 7:35drive the engine, the oil gets hot and
- 7:37then it expands.
- 7:39So, if it tells you the engine takes 5
- 7:41qt,
- 7:42Sometimes you have to put 4 and 1/2.
- 7:45Because when she's going to drive, the
- 7:46oil is going to expand, and then the
- 7:48level is going to rise. So, if if book
- 7:50time says 5.2,
- 7:53just put 5.
- 7:54Because if you put 5.2 or 5 and 1/2, and
- 7:57then she drives it, the oil rises, then
- 8:00the level goes up, and then the light
- 8:01comes on.
- 8:02And then the customer looks at you like,
- 8:04"Do you know what you're doing?" So,
- 8:05yeah. Just a side note to those of you
- 8:08who don't know that. Make sure that
- 8:10>> What What's the harm in putting too much
- 8:12oil?
- 8:13>> That's a good question. If you have If
- 8:14you put too much oil in the engine,
- 8:17it can foul uh spark plugs because you
- 8:20you will have oil that's going to pass
- 8:22the uh piston rings, and then the oil
- 8:25will go on top of the um
- 8:27pistons, and then foul the spark plugs.
- 8:30It can also
- 8:32um damage seals around the engine
- 8:34because you're going to have too much
- 8:36oil in the engine, and when the um
- 8:38the crankshaft is going to spin, it's
- 8:40actually going to
- 8:42uh push oil towards the seals, so that
- 8:45can blow up some seals. Uh so, it's
- 8:47going to lower the lifespan of seals
- 8:50like rear main seal, front seal, and all
- 8:54kinds of seals.
- 8:55And then, you can also see white smoke.
- 8:58White smoke coming out of the um
- 9:01tailpipe because you have oil go past
- 9:04the rings, it's going to go in the
- 9:05combustion chamber, and some of that oil
- 9:08may not burn. It's going to get pushed
- 9:10into the exhaust system. If that oil
- 9:12gets pushed into the exhaust system,
- 9:13guess what? It's going to end up in the
- 9:15catalytic converter. You're not supposed
- 9:17to have oil in a catalytic converter.
- 9:19So, if you have oil in a catalytic
- 9:20converter, that's going to cause the
- 9:22catalytic converter to overheat, and
- 9:24then you're going to damage your
- 9:25catalytic converter. So, it's going to
- 9:27cause all kinds of issues. So, don't put
- 9:29too much oil in it because
- 9:31you know, this is why
- 9:34I mean, I not I'm not going to name the
- 9:36company, but some of you know there are
- 9:39companies out there that do cheap oil
- 9:41changes for like
- 9:43$15.99 or whatever, $5.99. I don't know
- 9:46whatever it is, but the quick oil change
- 9:49places. They don't charge you as much
- 9:52for an oil change, but the thing is some
- 9:55of them don't have the correct service
- 9:56information that we use. They don't use
- 9:59the quality oil that we use cuz we use
- 10:02OEM stuff, like the quality stuff that
- 10:05we install we get from the dealer for
- 10:07the most part, right?
- 10:09And we follow service info. We follow
- 10:11book time to do things properly, but
- 10:14those places sometimes they don't. They
- 10:16put too much oil, sometimes too little
- 10:18oil. So, a cheap oil change can cause
- 10:22issues. I mean, how many times have we
- 10:23changed engines over here because the
- 10:26car came from that company that was
- 10:28changing the oil for the last 2 months
- 10:31and now the customer needs an engine. I
- 10:34won't say the name. Maybe say the name
- 10:36in the comment section.
- 10:38You know, so and I tell my customers our
- 10:41oil changes are not cheap like I mean,
- 10:44we're not going to charge you $55 for an
- 10:46oil change. We're way over that, but the
- 10:48thing is we're going to do it right and
- 10:51if we maintain your vehicle, it's going
- 10:54to last long. So, you might spend a
- 10:56little bit up front, but in the long run
- 10:58it's going to save you money.
- 11:01All right, so cameraman Mike is back.
- 11:05The food is here.
- 11:06>> Pizza.
- 11:06>> Pizza is here.
- 11:08So, it's pizza day today. All right,
- 11:10Kyle. So, let me just look at the Let me
- 11:11just look at the data
- 11:14and then
- 11:15and then we can stop and get some lunch,
- 11:17take a lunch break, and then we'll be
- 11:18back. So, let me just go to charge
- 11:21pressure control.
- 11:23>> Didn't we have to change an oil pan or
- 11:24something that came from one of those
- 11:25places?
- 11:26>> Mhm.
- 11:27>> They like over
- 11:27>> They over too Yeah. Yeah, they actually
- 11:30uh they stripped they stripped the oil
- 11:33um
- 11:33the drain plug.
- 11:35>> They stripped the drain plug and we have
- 11:36we ended up changing the oil pan, yeah.
- 11:39Yeah, so I I tell our customers
- 11:42we are here to take care of you.
- 11:45We are here to fix your vehicles right,
- 11:47but doing things the right way
- 11:49I mean nowadays costs, you know,
- 11:51everything is more expensive now, so
- 11:54I I mean, if I wasn't working on cars, I
- 11:58would definitely bring my car to this
- 12:00shop.
- 12:01Knowing how we do things over here, I
- 12:03would definitely bring my car here. So
- 12:06guys, make sure
- 12:09you take your car to a good shop that's
- 12:11going to take care of it, okay?
- 12:13Cameraman Kai is laughing behind behind
- 12:15the camera. All right, let me start it.
- 12:17Let's see.
- 12:19So engine is running.
- 12:21Right now our charge pressure actual
- 12:23value is 14. 86.
- 12:2786. So I'm going to rev up the engine.
- 12:32So the maximum pressure we're building
- 12:34right now
- 12:35it kind of went up to about 17. 40
- 12:38and that's it.
- 12:41Now
- 12:42I don't know if you guys can hear this,
- 12:44but the engine is not really revving up
- 12:47with power. Listen to this, Kai. I'm
- 12:49going to rev it. I'm going to step all
- 12:51the way
- 12:52I'm going to step on the accelerator
- 12:53pedal all the way to the floor.
- 12:56You hear that? There's like the
- 12:59It's like a It It feels like there's a
- 13:01rev limiter. So we're not building
- 13:03enough boost. It's supposed to go like
- 13:06You know what I mean? Like It's supposed
- 13:08I mean, you know what I mean? Like the
- 13:09the RPM.
- 13:11Maybe I should have Gavin rev it for us.
- 13:16Yeah.
- 13:17All right, cool. We're going to stop
- 13:19here. Let's go get some lunch first. And
- 13:22then when we get back after our lunch,
- 13:23we're going to pick it back up.
- 13:25I want to rev it a couple of times. I
- 13:26might have to have Ravi, I mean Gavin,
- 13:28rev it for us.
- 13:30So, we can watch this. And then we're
- 13:31going to go under the hood before I take
- 13:34it on a test drive. We can smoke test
- 13:36the induction system to see if we have a
- 13:38boost leak. I don't hear a boost leak
- 13:40under the hood though. Cuz usually when
- 13:42you have a boost leak, you will hear a
- 13:43hissing sound coming from under the
- 13:45hood. Cuz when I rev it,
- 13:48I don't hear a hissing sound.
- 13:50So, I don't think we have a boost leak.
- 13:55Okay. So,
- 13:57let's take a quick break. We'll be right
- 13:59back. We're back from our lunch break.
- 14:03We ate some pizza. Kyler, did you enjoy
- 14:06your your lunch?
- 14:07>> I thought it was good. Thank you.
- 14:08>> It was good. You're welcome.
- 14:10We had pizza here today, guys. Pizza
- 14:12day.
- 14:13Anyways, so here the here is the code
- 14:15that we have. We were looking at the
- 14:17data before we went to lunch.
- 14:21So, we were looking at our boost
- 14:23pressure data PID.
- 14:27So, I graphed
- 14:29these PIDs over here.
- 14:32Let me start the engine one more time.
- 14:36Okay. So, I'm going to rev it.
- 14:42So, as you can hear,
- 14:44it sounds like the engine is not
- 14:46building enough boost pressure.
- 14:53So, what I want to do is before we go
- 14:55under the hood, let's take this for a
- 14:57spin. Let's drive it around
- 15:00and see
- 15:01uh what kind of boost we're going to
- 15:03build while we're driving. And then when
- 15:05we get back, we're going to do some
- 15:07tests under the hood. So, Kyler,
- 15:10jump in and let's go on a test drive.
- 15:12Let's drive out of here.
- 15:17Got to get the seatbelt on.
- 15:20Safety first.
- 15:24So, check engine light is still on.
- 15:27We did not clear the codes.
- 15:31All right. So, so far
- 15:35we're building about 14.6
- 15:38PSI.
- 15:40When I rev it up a little bit, we went
- 15:42up to about 15 PSI.
- 15:49She said it most it it loses power
- 15:52mostly when you going when you going up
- 15:54a hill.
- 15:56We don't really have a hill over here.
- 15:58We can go try this out.
- 16:00Maybe this hill coming up here.
- 16:03So, we're going down this way and
- 16:05come back.
- 16:10And pick up some speed over here.
- 16:22Did I mention that it's common for these
- 16:24turbos to fail
- 16:25on these Audis?
- 16:27Uh it's a very common thing over here.
- 16:30>> Oh, it feels good so far.
- 16:31>> It does, yeah.
- 16:34But, we we're just driving on flat on a
- 16:36flat surface.
- 16:39You think this is a hill?
- 16:45It it feels fine.
- 16:53I wish I could really go fast, but
- 16:56with these turns here
- 16:59we got to be careful.
- 17:17I mean, it's building
- 17:20It's building boost.
- 17:25But not
- 17:28not enough.
- 17:30It's building a good amount, but not
- 17:37not a ton.
- 17:40I'm just going to floor it here. Let's
- 17:42see.
- 17:47So, maximum boost we built
- 17:51What? Drive system malfunction.
- 17:55There's a light that came on.
- 17:57Drive system malfunction.
- 17:58>> Yeah, I got it.
- 18:00>> Why?
- 18:01>> Huh.
- 18:02>> Is it because of the light with the
- 18:04check engine light?
- 18:08>> I don't know. The power feels good.
- 18:13>> So, for example, right now I'm flooring
- 18:15it.
- 18:16No, it's going down right now.
- 18:20I mean, it's not It should be going up
- 18:22to like 25 or even 30 PSI.
- 18:26So,
- 18:27it's building power, but not enough.
- 18:30Yeah, not enough. It should be building
- 18:32more boost.
- 18:35Yeah, it's It should be building more
- 18:37boost pressure. Actually, we can just
- 18:39turn around here.
- 18:41Man, it's getting green over here.
- 18:43>> No, it's
- 18:43>> Beautiful. It's starting to look nice.
- 18:45Look.
- 18:46Oh my gosh.
- 18:48>> good.
- 18:48>> I know.
- 18:49Okay, actually, you know what I'm going
- 18:50to do?
- 18:51Okay, let me turn it off. Turn the key
- 18:53on.
- 18:54Turn it off. Turn the key on.
- 18:56Let me look at the data page from the
- 18:59generic side. Go to OBD direct.
- 19:02Let's see what the boost pressure
- 19:04reading is going to be from the generic
- 19:07side of the tool.
- 19:09Because sometimes on the Sometimes on
- 19:11the OEM side
- 19:13we might be dealing with substituted
- 19:16values.
- 19:18And that can throw us off sometimes. So,
- 19:21OBD generic can be the way to go
- 19:24sometimes. Actually, let me back out.
- 19:26Let me see if we have freeze frame
- 19:29available here.
- 19:31Freeze frame.
- 19:34Let me see when this trouble code was
- 19:36set.
- 19:37So, this trouble code was set at 18 and
- 19:4137
- 19:42RPMs.
- 19:44Engine temperature was Engine
- 19:47temperature was 200 and
- 19:5013°
- 19:52short-term
- 19:54I mean long-term was minus 1.4.
- 19:57And then short-term was 2.3. Where is
- 19:59boost pressure? Do we have boost
- 20:01pressure data pit here? So, calculated
- 20:03load value was 64.3%
- 20:08commanded thorough angle control was
- 20:1165.9%.
- 20:14And then
- 20:17this happened in closed loop, so no
- 20:20boost pressure.
- 20:21Hm.
- 20:22Okay.
- 20:23That is good to know.
- 20:25It's interesting how we don't have a
- 20:26boost pressure
- 20:29data pit on the generic side.
- 20:32Let's see.
- 20:36Oh, right here. Boost pressure A.
- 20:39But we did have the speed over here on
- 20:41the
- 20:43freeze frame.
- 20:45That's interesting. So, let's customize
- 20:47this list.
- 20:49Let's grab
- 20:53our
- 20:59the our data pits that we need to look
- 21:01at.
- 21:12>> Okay, so here are the only pids I want
- 21:14to look at. I'm going to graph my boost
- 21:17pressure data pid.
- 21:19So, let's start the engine.
- 21:22Okay, let's turn around here.
- 21:43I mean, this is a Q8.
- 21:45Actually, when I'm thinking about the Q5
- 21:47that we worked on a couple months ago,
- 21:49>> Mhm.
- 21:49>> it had 90,000 mi, too.
- 21:51>> Oh.
- 21:52>> This one has 90,000 mi.
- 21:54>> Oh.
- 21:54>> So, I'm starting to notice a pattern
- 21:56here.
- 21:57>> Yeah.
- 21:57>> Maybe
- 21:58when you get to about 90,000 mi on these
- 22:02Audis, that's when you needed the turbo.
- 22:11Okay, so maximum boost that we built is
- 22:1618.9
- 22:17psi.
- 22:23And also, you know, a failing turbo will
- 22:26do that, too.
- 22:27Sometimes it would work fine, sometimes
- 22:29it would stop working. So, it would be
- 22:31failing intermittently. Dang, my butt is
- 22:34on fire right now. This This seat gets
- 22:36really hot.
- 22:38Jeez.
- 22:39>> I got the warmer on.
- 22:40>> Uh
- 22:46Uh-oh.
- 22:48Slow down.
- 22:56I believe this message is coming on on
- 22:58the dash because we have a
- 23:00code in the engine computer,
- 23:02the P0299 code.
- 23:07Okay, I'm going to try to go really fast
- 23:10going up the hill
- 23:11to see how much boost we're going to
- 23:13build
- 23:14when we're climbing up the hill.
- 23:20So, I'm going to let all these cars in
- 23:21front of us get away.
- 23:24Then
- 23:27we're going to give it the beans. It's
- 23:29interesting how thing everything is
- 23:31starting to turn green right now.
- 23:33But a couple weeks ago it was all dead
- 23:36and dry and
- 23:38but now
- 23:39>> All that rain we've been getting.
- 23:40>> I know. So, we're going up the hill. I'm
- 23:43going to I'm going to give it the beans.
- 23:46Let's go up. Let's see.
- 23:49Going up.
- 23:52So, maximum boost we built
- 23:56is about 18 PSI.
- 24:00Now, as we were going up the hill, I
- 24:02don't know if you noticed, Skyler, we
- 24:04didn't shift.
- 24:05You know what I mean? And we didn't
- 24:07shift because we were because that that
- 24:09hill wasn't long enough. If it was a
- 24:11longer hill, we were going to notice
- 24:13that low power that that like power
- 24:15decrease.
- 24:16So, yeah.
- 24:18Going up the hill, we're not building
- 24:19enough
- 24:21boost pressure. We're building enough. I
- 24:23mean, we're building about we we built
- 24:25about 18 PSI when we were going up the
- 24:28hill, which tells me that the turbo was
- 24:30trying to build that boost pressure. If
- 24:33we don't have a leak cuz right now what
- 24:35I want to do is let's get in the shop
- 24:37and
- 24:38smoke test it.
- 24:40If there are no leaks around the turbo,
- 24:43we're going to check the actuator of the
- 24:45turbo. If the wiring of the actuator is
- 24:47fine,
- 24:48we're going to recommend changing a
- 24:50turbo.
- 24:51Yeah.
- 24:52Based on the data that we have and based
- 24:55on experience because I mean, I don't
- 24:57think the uh
- 24:58turbo actuator wiring has an issue.
- 25:00Because if we had a wiring issue, we
- 25:03would have a code for it. But, we're
- 25:05still going to check it before we
- 25:06condemn
- 25:08the turbo. So,
- 25:09now I'm going to turn off the engine.
- 25:12Let's go under the hood and do a visual
- 25:14inspection. And then we're going to
- 25:15smoke test the induction system. Let's
- 25:18open the hood.
- 25:25German engineering.
- 25:28We love Audis.
- 25:31Do you like Audis, Kyler?
- 25:34You do?
- 25:35Yeah, they're good cars, right? Yeah.
- 25:37They ride very nice.
- 25:41Yeah, I like them, too.
- 25:43I do like them.
- 25:45So,
- 25:46the Audi expert, Robin,
- 25:49told me that there are some clips over
- 25:51here on the side
- 25:53that you have to
- 25:58undo
- 26:08so we can remove this cover.
- 26:17What in the heck?
- 26:20Okay.
- 26:22This side over here is off.
- 26:25But, this side is not.
- 26:28There we go.
- 26:39There you go, Audi.
- 26:41Okay, so first things first, we're going
- 26:43to do a visual inspection.
- 26:48Everything over here looks good.
- 26:51I'm checking these this tube over here,
- 26:53this
- 26:54this charger cooler tube.
- 26:57Cuz these ones usually leak.
- 27:08You know what?
- 27:10I should get this on the lift.
- 27:13You know what I mean?
- 27:13>> Maybe.
- 27:14>> That way we can also inspect the bottom.
- 27:17Cuz these charger could these tubes go
- 27:19to the charger cooler.
- 27:22I mean, we can just smoke test it here,
- 27:23but what if we have a leak somewhere
- 27:26over there?
- 27:27Okay, let me get this on the lift and
- 27:29then I'll bring you guys back up. All
- 27:30right, I got the vehicle on the lift.
- 27:33Let's redo this.
- 27:36Now, I'm going to install some fender
- 27:38covers here.
- 27:39We do not want to scratch the paint.
- 27:44So, this is going to cover
- 27:48the paint.
- 27:52And then this is going to go right here.
- 27:57We don't want the customer's paint to
- 27:59get scratched. Perfect. You like that,
- 28:02Tyler?
- 28:02>> Yeah.
- 28:03>> Nice.
- 28:04So, now
- 28:06we are going to install
- 28:09the light.
- 28:15Nice. All right.
- 28:16So,
- 28:18we do the visual inspection here.
- 28:23I'm going to remove this guy.
- 28:30Now, this thing just pops off.
- 28:34I'm just going to pop it out.
- 28:37It's going to
- 28:38gently
- 28:41pry it out.
- 28:44There There go.
- 28:48And then
- 28:49we're going to undo this clamp over
- 28:51here.
- 29:09There.
- 29:11So, here comes the engine air filter
- 29:13housing.
- 29:16Let's get these out of the way.
- 29:19Tada!
- 29:21Check this out.
- 29:23Here is our turbo charger.
- 29:26Looks clean, though.
- 29:31And
- 29:34this over here
- 29:36looks like this over here is the
- 29:38solenoid for it.
- 29:40It's a turbo solenoid. That's the
- 29:41solenoid for the actuator.
- 29:46And then
- 29:51Oh, I see oil over there.
- 29:54Do you see it? I don't know if I don't
- 29:56know how well the camera is. Yeah, see
- 29:57how See that? There's oil in there.
- 30:00That's not good.
- 30:01We shouldn't be having a lot of oil in
- 30:03there.
- 30:05That's no bueno, Kyler.
- 30:08Yeah.
- 30:10I mean, it's not smoking, though. I
- 30:12couldn't really
- 30:13tell, but
- 30:15a little bit of oil on this
- 30:17PCV tube is fine.
- 30:21But, a lot is definitely a problem.
- 30:24Looks pretty good.
- 30:25Now,
- 30:27let me grab my
- 30:28vacuum machine. We're going to connect
- 30:30it, and then we'll do
- 30:32we'll vacuum this induction system here.
- 30:34So, I got my smoke machine here.
- 30:38I'm going to power it up.
- 30:40And then we're going to smoke
- 30:43this induction system here.
- 30:48Let's see what
- 30:52what we have here. So, power,
- 30:55ground.
- 30:58Smoke ma- Smoke machine is powered up.
- 31:10It's right here.
- 31:14Let's increase this up to 15 psi.
- 31:1815 psi.
- 31:21I'm going to put this adapter over here.
- 31:32So, we should have smoke coming out of
- 31:34this.
- 31:44>> It's like coming out the back
- 31:46of the smoke machine.
- 31:48>> Oh.
- 31:49There's a leak here.
- 31:51Let me see if we have smoke going into
- 31:53the engine. I'm going to undo the oil
- 31:55fill tube. Oh, there.
- 31:58Yeah. See that? Okay, so we got smoke We
- 32:01have smoke coming out of this because
- 32:03it's going through the PCV system. So, I
- 32:05don't see a leak up here.
- 32:12So, we have smoke going through the
- 32:14induction system.
- 32:16And there's a little bit over here. Let
- 32:17me just push this.
- 32:19Let me push this guy all the way in.
- 32:28My adapter is a little small.
- 32:37Now, let me open up this cap again.
- 32:40Oh, yeah. See that?
- 32:41>> Oh, yeah.
- 32:42>> The fact that it's coming out with a lot
- 32:44of pressure, this tells me that Yeah,
- 32:46see? We don't have a leak.
- 32:49We do not have a leak.
- 32:51Let me look underneath.
- 32:53Nothing over here.
- 32:55Okay.
- 32:58Let me back out.
- 33:01Yeah.
- 33:02Cuz I don't want to keep this on while
- 33:05we raised it up.
- 33:08Uh maybe I should.
- 33:11Let me do it at about
- 33:135 PSI.
- 33:15So, about 4 PSI. Okay.
- 33:17So, now I set my smoke machine to 4 PSI.
- 33:21Now, let's let's raise up the vehicle.
- 33:25Let's see what we got.
- 33:28Now, this shouldn't need much because it
- 33:30only has
- 33:3190,000 mi, so
- 33:34But, you never know. Don't assume.
- 33:36Always test.
- 33:38All right. So, we got the vehicle up in
- 33:40the air.
- 33:41Now,
- 33:42I'm looking around the charger cooler
- 33:45here.
- 33:46Carler, if you can show this component.
- 33:48>> Oh, yeah.
- 33:48>> Now, these Audis have two charger
- 33:50coolers. There is one on each side of
- 33:52the vehicle.
- 33:54They usually put one
- 33:55uh charger cooler below the uh
- 33:58headlight. Now, you see how dry it is
- 34:00over here?
- 34:01>> Yeah.
- 34:01>> And you know how we know that a charger
- 34:04cooler is leaking?
- 34:05If there's oil around it. Remember?
- 34:07>> Oh, yeah.
- 34:08>> You know? From the Sprinters. There you
- 34:10go. Carler is becoming an a expert here.
- 34:14A diesel
- 34:16uh diagnostician here. Yeah, so the fact
- 34:18that everything around these tubes is
- 34:20dry, this tells me that this charger
- 34:23cooler is not leaking. So, now let's
- 34:25check the one on this side.
- 34:27So, same thing.
- 34:29Can you see up there, Carler?
- 34:30>> Yep.
- 34:31>> You see how dry it is?
- 34:32>> Mhm.
- 34:33>> No oil.
- 34:35You know,
- 34:36no oil residue here. So,
- 34:39this tells me that we do not have a
- 34:42leak. And also, if we had a leak down
- 34:44here, we would see smoke coming out of
- 34:46these charger coolers.
- 34:48So,
- 34:50now, I'm just going to look around and
- 34:52see if there's anything else
- 34:54that needs attention.
- 34:58Uh look at this over here, Kyler.
- 35:00So, this this tensioner
- 35:02>> Mhm.
- 35:03>> You see how rusty it is? You see the
- 35:05rust behind the tensioner there?
- 35:07>> Oh, yeah.
- 35:08>> Yeah, that's not good.
- 35:09This this tensioner needs to be changed
- 35:12because it's going to start squeaking
- 35:13eventually
- 35:14and uh
- 35:17that can break. So, I would recommend
- 35:19changing that tensioner, too.
- 35:21That rust is coming from the spring
- 35:23inside the tensioner.
- 35:26The belt looks very fine.
- 35:29No leaks around the front of the engine.
- 35:38Good.
- 35:40Nothing here. It's really dry back here,
- 35:42so that's good.
- 35:47Guys, I've said this in our previous
- 35:49videos. I'm going to say this again.
- 35:51When we bring a vehicle in the shop, we
- 35:53always inspect it.
- 35:56Okay, so we're going to inspect this
- 35:58vehicle. We're going to take pictures
- 36:00and send the inspection report to the
- 36:02customer.
- 36:04But as I'm looking over here, I'm just
- 36:05doing a quick visual inspection here.
- 36:08I don't see anything that's really
- 36:10catching my eye.
- 36:12You know, nothing too crazy. She might
- 36:14need
- 36:16rear brakes soon
- 36:18cuz the the caliper piston over here is
- 36:20pushed out a lot.
- 36:22Let me see over here.
- 36:27Yeah, she will need brakes.
- 36:30Oh, yeah.
- 36:31Can you show over here? I don't know how
- 36:33well you can see this.
- 36:34See my finger in there?
- 36:36>> Mhm.
- 36:37>> Yeah. You You see how how pushed out the
- 36:40>> Yeah.
- 36:40>> caliper piston is?
- 36:42>> Yeah.
- 36:43>> When you see a piston being pushed out
- 36:45all the way like that, that means the
- 36:47pad are worn out.
- 36:50So,
- 36:51yeah.
- 36:52We're going to put all of that in the
- 36:54inspection report. Let me check the
- 36:56front. Actually, the front pads
- 36:58look pretty okay. It's the back ones
- 37:01she's going to need need
- 37:03rear pads.
- 37:05Okay.
- 37:07So, based on what I see here,
- 37:11you know,
- 37:12this is leading me towards a bad turbo
- 37:15because we don't have a leak.
- 37:18Now, the last thing we need to do is we
- 37:20need to use a scan tool and check the
- 37:22actuator of the turbo with the scan tool
- 37:24to make sure it's working.
- 37:26And then, we're done.
- 37:28So, let me let me lower the vehicle.
- 37:34So, our charger coolers are not leaking,
- 37:37so that's good.
- 37:40Okay.
- 37:43So,
- 37:45what else do we need to check? So, this
- 37:47actuator over here,
- 37:50if you can show this actuator,
- 37:53this waste gate actuator, it's a vacuum
- 37:55operated.
- 37:57It looks like we're going to have to do
- 37:58this while the engine is running.
- 38:00Okay, let me get my smoke machine out of
- 38:03the way.
- 38:04We are done with this.
- 38:13So, now I need I need to reconnect the
- 38:16air filter box.
- 38:18Hold on. Let me see. I should be able to
- 38:20Wait.
- 38:24Here's the whole thing.
- 38:26Mhm.
- 38:28Do I need to remove this? You know what?
- 38:30I'm going to start it without the
- 38:31filter.
- 38:32Just for a few
- 38:34minutes.
- 38:36Just for a few minutes, Kyler.
- 38:38Okay, let me grab the scan tool. We got
- 38:40Robin in the car. The key is on.
- 38:45Let me see what kind of a functional
- 38:47test we have here.
- 38:49Turbo bypass valve off.
- 38:52Turbo charger recirculating valve. Yeah.
- 38:55Start it.
- 39:00Okay.
- 39:07Rev it just slightly.
- 39:11You see how the gear Do you see how the
- 39:13wastegate is moving?
- 39:15Rev it.
- 39:18Okay, let go.
- 39:20Did you see how the actuator was moving?
- 39:24Okay. Now, focus on the actuator, Kyler.
- 39:28Rev it again just slightly. Okay.
- 39:30Start it again.
- 39:34Okay.
- 39:35Rev it.
- 39:41Okay, hold on.
- 39:43Let me uh
- 39:45Let me do all these turbo
- 39:47tests that I have here.
- 39:52Over here.
- 39:57I mean, the fact that the actuator lever
- 39:59turned I mean, moved earlier,
- 40:02that tells me that the solenoid that
- 40:05controls the uh
- 40:06turbo actuator
- 40:08is being controlled by the engine
- 40:10computer.
- 40:23>> Okay, rev it.
- 40:24Just snap.
- 40:33There.
- 40:35Snap it again.
- 40:37There. Snap it.
- 40:40All right, that's good.
- 40:42Turn your off. Okay, so this actuator
- 40:45here is vacuum controlled, okay? The
- 40:49engine computer controls this solenoid
- 40:51over here.
- 40:52Okay, which allows vacuum to go from one
- 40:55side of the solenoid to the other to
- 40:57actually control this actuator.
- 41:00Okay, so the wastegate actuator is being
- 41:02controlled.
- 41:04So which tells me that the engine
- 41:05computer is trying to
- 41:07create boost that we need.
- 41:10So turbo.
- 41:12So
- 41:13Audi expert
- 41:16These turbos has got to go.
- 41:18>> Awful.
- 41:21100,000 100,000 miles.
- 41:22>> Yeah.
- 41:23>> Regular.
- 41:23>> Yeah.
- 41:24Yeah.
- 41:25>> 2.2 always do the same thing.
- 41:26>> 2.2, yeah. Actually the the one we did
- 41:28last time failed at 90,000 miles.
- 41:32>> Yeah.
- 41:32>> And this one has 90,000 miles, too.
- 41:34>> Yeah.
- 41:34>> Yeah.
- 41:35>> Regular.
- 41:35>> Yeah. So they fail around 100,000 miles,
- 41:38basically.
- 41:38>> Yep. Yeah.
- 41:40>> So we checked there we checked the
- 41:41induction system. There are no leaks.
- 41:43Oh, yeah. So now I'm going to call the
- 41:45Audi dealership. I'm going to ask them
- 41:48to give me a list of all the components
- 41:50that I need to do this turbo, including
- 41:52the the turbo itself.
- 41:55OEM parts only.
- 41:56>> Yeah.
- 41:57>> Especially for these kind of vehicles,
- 41:59OEM only. We're going to get a OEM
- 42:01turbo, all the gaskets, bolts. For
- 42:03example, these bolts that I see over
- 42:05here, I'm sure we're going to have to
- 42:07change these.
- 42:08>> Oh, yeah.
- 42:08>> See that?
- 42:09>> Yep.
- 42:09>> Cuz this is the
- 42:12exhaust
- 42:13>> manifold
- 42:14>> manifold with it.
- 42:15>> Yeah.
- 42:16>> Cuz as I'm looking, I believe all of
- 42:17this will be the turbo.
- 42:18>> Yeah.
- 42:19>> Yeah. So, yeah. So, the the uh exhaust
- 42:21manifold is part of it.
- 42:23>> Yeah.
- 42:23>> So, exhaust manifold gaskets, turbo
- 42:26gaskets, seals, bolts, everything.
- 42:29>> Everything.
- 42:30>> Yeah. Clamps. Probably this clamp, too.
- 42:32>> Yeah.
- 42:33>> You know? And uh yeah. All the good
- 42:35stuff. Now, this over here, I believe
- 42:37this is the oxygen sensor.
- 42:38>> Yes.
- 42:40>> Yeah. And sometimes these guys can get
- 42:41stuck. So, if this is stuck,
- 42:44we I'm going to have to put it in the
- 42:46estimate, and I'm going to tell the
- 42:47customer this is optional. If it comes
- 42:49out easily, we don't have to change it.
- 42:51If it's stuck to the point where we have
- 42:53to destroy it to remove it, then we got
- 42:55to change it. So, yeah.
- 42:57>> Are you saying the air mass air sensor?
- 42:59>> Yeah. So,
- 43:01we are using our experience here and the
- 43:04data that we have collected to call for
- 43:07a turbo.
- 43:08So,
- 43:09she needs a turbo.
- 43:10>> Oh, yeah.
- 43:12>> All right. So, that's it, guys. We're
- 43:13going to leave this right over here. I
- 43:14am going to make an estimate and let the
- 43:18customer know. Hopefully, we're going to
- 43:20get the job. Once we get the approval, I
- 43:23will bring you guys back up so we can
- 43:25show you the new turbo, and then we will
- 43:27change the turbo, and I'm sure after we
- 43:29change the turbo, this vehicle is going
- 43:31to drive very well. Actually, when we
- 43:34took it on a test drive, it's driving
- 43:36somewhat okay.
- 43:37>> Okay.
- 43:38>> It's building boost, but I believe it's
- 43:40failing intermittently. I don't know if
- 43:42it's the wastegate that's sticking
- 43:44sometimes.
- 43:45>> Wastegate do that.
- 43:46>> Yeah. Because sometimes cuz when I was
- 43:48driving, there were times where it felt
- 43:49fine, and then when I revved it up all
- 43:51the way, it would only build up pressure
- 43:53up to like 17 PSI.
- 43:56>> Wow.
- 43:56>> Which is lower than normal, because this
- 43:57one should go all the way up to
- 43:59sometimes 30 uh PSI on the boost
- 44:02pressure. On you know, when you have a
- 44:04good trans um
- 44:05good turbo, not good transmission.
- 44:07Yeah, when you have a good turbo.
- 44:08>> Yeah.
- 44:09>> Yeah. Anyways, so, why don't you get in
- 44:12the comment section and let us know what
- 44:14you think about this. If you were
- 44:16diagnosing this,
- 44:18would you do something differently? If
- 44:20you were going to do this differently,
- 44:21let us know in the comment section. So,
- 44:23be on the lookout for part two of this
- 44:25video. We will let you know what the
- 44:27customer decides. Everybody, thanks for
- 44:29being here. If you're a subscriber
- 44:31coming back to watch this, I appreciate
- 44:33you. Thank you for bringing business to
- 44:35us. We're growing because of you. Our
- 44:37business is growing because of you and I
- 44:39can't thank you guys enough. We do not
- 44:41have a marketing budget. You are our
- 44:43marketing. Thank you. Thank you. Thank
- 44:45you. My man cameraman Kyler, thanks for
- 44:47being behind the camera. Once again,
- 44:49comments, questions, criticism, leave
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- 44:56>> a thumbs up, too.
- 44:57>> Yeah. Give it a thumbs up. Not a thumb
- 44:59down, okay? Thumbs up, yeah. Thanks,
- 45:01Robin.
- 45:01>> You're welcome.
- 45:02>> Thank you, everybody.
- 45:04Uh, be on the lookout for a follow-up
- 45:06video. See you next time. All right,
- 45:08guys. I'm going to give you an update on
- 45:09this Audi Q8. We actually are not going
- 45:13to get the job. Uh, the customer has a
- 45:16warranty company that they were
- 45:19paying. We went back and forth with the
- 45:21warranty company and the warranty
- 45:23company didn't want to pay the full
- 45:25bill. They wanted the customer to pay a
- 45:27portion of the bill and the customer was
- 45:30not okay with that and uh, they told us
- 45:32that they're going to go ahead and not
- 45:35fix the vehicle. So, we're not going to
- 45:36get the job. The customer is going to
- 45:38pay for our diagnosis and then we're
- 45:40going to move on with another vehicle.
- 45:42Now, I might make another uh, video in
- 45:45the future about these warranty
- 45:47companies. I'm starting to notice a
- 45:49trend with a lot of the warranty
- 45:51companies out there. They are a pain in
- 45:53the butt to deal with. I'm starting to
- 45:55get to a point where I'm going to stop
- 45:57taking jobs that have to involve
- 45:59warranty companies. Let me know if you
- 46:01have a shop and uh, how do you deal with
- 46:04warranty companies because they can be a
- 46:06pain in the butt. We've dealt with about
- 46:07five of them right now and it's it's so
- 46:10time-consuming. At the end of the day,
- 46:12sometimes it's not worth it. So, I'm
- 46:14getting to the point where I'm going to
- 46:16start saying no to this. But, anyways,
- 46:18that's besides the point. We're going to
- 46:20get paid for a diagnosis time and we're
- 46:22going to give the vehicle back to the
- 46:23customer. Thanks for being here. I hope
- 46:25you like the video. If you like it, then
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