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0:00The single biggest misconception I see
0:01in the dating space is this idea that in
0:03order to generate attraction with women,
0:05you have to hit on them. Where does this
0:06come from? First off, it comes from
0:08television and movies where a
0:10good-looking guy, the prince charming,
0:12the incredibly handsome actor walks up
0:14to the girl with a big old smile on his
0:15face and tells her how pretty she is and
0:17how much she wants to go on a date with
0:18him. The second place this terrible
0:20advice comes from is from Milktoast
0:21dating coaches who tell you to just be
0:23yourself and have good energy. Just walk
0:25up to her with a big old smile on your
0:27face and just be yourself and go up to
0:29her and just be as vulnerable as you can
0:31and let her know how you feel right when
0:33you walk up to her and let her know that
0:34you're attracted to her and that's how
0:35you'll get the girl. And the third place
0:37is from the pickup community who for
0:39years has been telling men to walk up to
0:41women, show man towoman intent, big
0:43energy, spin to win, insta, and if you
0:45just go up to women and let them know
0:47how sexually interested it you are in
0:49them, that these women will eventually
0:50cave into your creepiness and go on a
0:52date with you. Of course, for any of you
0:53who've been dating over the last 10 or
0:5520 years, you know that these strategies
0:57are completely unrealistic and outdated,
0:58especially for average men. Let me try
1:00to use an example here. Imagine you're a
1:02man and you're sitting at a bar and a
1:04very, very beautiful woman walks up and
1:06sits down next to you. While she's
1:08sitting down next to you, does she need
1:09to hit on you for you to be attracted to
1:11her? Does she need to hit on you to
1:13generate sexual tension? Does she need
1:15to show you intent in order for you to
1:17be attracted to her? No. She has
1:19qualities about her, in this case,
1:20physical qualities that make you
1:22attracted to her even though she hasn't
1:25hit on you. Let's think of another
1:26example. A famous movie star or famous
1:28singer who's up on stage and while he's
1:30singing, there are multiple girls, maybe
1:32thousands of women who are in the
1:33audience who are attracted to him and he
1:35doesn't even know they exist. These are
1:37examples of you being able to generate
1:39attraction in someone else without
1:41showing them that you're attracted to
1:42them. And of course, if you took the
1:44time to actually look in the literature
1:45on this, you'll find there's
1:46peer-reviewed data backing up everything
1:48I just said. In the paper titled He
1:50Loves Me, He Loves Me Not, uncertainty
1:52can increase romantic attraction,
1:54published in Psychological Sciences, it
1:56shows that when women were given the
1:57choice between three different types of
1:58men, men who they knew were attracted to
2:01them. Meaning, these men said, "Hey,
2:03you're one of the most beautiful women
2:04I've ever seen or I find you very
2:05attractive." A second group of men who
2:06were like, "I don't really find you that
2:08attractive at all." And a third group of
2:10men where it was uncertain. The women
2:11chose the men in the uncertain category
2:13to be the most attractive. This is
2:15obvious if you think about this from a
2:17sales standpoint or from any other
2:18standpoint. Uncertainty creates
2:20attraction. Uncertainty makes it so that
2:23people will invest more in you to figure
2:24out whether or not they're attracted. I
2:26want you to consider this scenario.
2:27You're a guy who lives in a home and a
2:28guy comes by and he knocks on your door
2:29and he says, "Hey, I'd like to sell you
2:31some aluminum sighting." So, you're
2:32like, "Okay, you know what? I'm not
2:33really interested in the aluminum
2:34sighting, but thank you for coming by. I
2:36appreciate it. If I know somebody, I'll
2:38keep you in mind." He comes by the next
2:39day. He's like, "Hey, listen. Uh, you
2:41remember the aluminum siding we had
2:43before? You know, you seem like a great
2:44guy. We're going to give it to you for
2:4520% off." Well, you're like, "You know
2:47what? I really don't need the aluminum
2:48siding, but thank you so much. I
2:49appreciate it." Then he comes back the
2:51next day. [snorts] Hey, uh, listen, uh,
2:53you know the aluminum sighting I told
2:54you about? I'll give it to you for 70%
2:56off. Listen, uh, you seem like an
2:58awesome person. I'll just give it to you
2:59for that much off. What would you think
3:01about that aluminum sighting? Okay. Now,
3:03take that same metaphor and imagine
3:04being a beautiful woman. Imagine a guy
3:06coming up to you and immediately without
3:08you doing anything whatsoever him being
3:10like, "Hey, listen. Um, I'm really
3:12attracted to you and uh, is there any
3:14way that I could take you on a date?
3:16Why? What did you do as a woman to get
3:19this man to be willing to take you on a
3:20date? Did you win an award? Did you win
3:23a spelling bee? Did you show some high
3:25level of accomplishment or achievement?
3:27Or is he asking you on a date just
3:29because you have big boobs?" Again, when
3:32a man shows his cards and does not allow
3:34for there to be any level of certainty,
3:36she knows she's already won. When a man
3:38comes up to a woman and asks her on a
3:40date, when she hasn't done anything to
3:42earn the date other than being
3:43physically attractive, she knows by
3:45definition that he is of lower sexual
3:47market value than she is. There's an
3:49algorithm. There's a sub routine running
3:50in her hindbrain that lets her know this
3:52is a lower status man. A higher status
3:54man is not going to come up and just ask
3:56her on a date. A higher status man is
3:58going to make her prove herself in some
4:00form or fashion before he asks her on a
4:02date because this man has higher
4:03standards. He has abundance. He has
4:05sexual abundance. He has abundance when
4:06it comes to dating and he has abundance
4:08when it comes to his social circle. So
4:10you showing women interest and intent
4:11off the rip without her doing anything
4:13to earn it lets her know by definition
4:15that you are lower sexual market value
4:17than she is. And also the peer-review
4:19data shows that her uncertain feelings
4:21towards you makes you more attractive.
4:24Which leads me to my second massive
4:25misconception. And that's the idea that
4:27when you do social circle, you don't do
4:30cold approach anymore. This is one of
4:32the most ridiculous, specious,
4:34incorrect, totally false implications
4:37that people make about myself, my
4:38program, and social circle in general.
4:40There's actual videos out there where
4:42guys are telling you that I'm saying
4:44don't approach women. Don't cold
4:46approach women. I have never said that.
4:47In fact, I have a video in my limiting
4:49beliefs playlist if you want to check it
4:50out. It's called, "Are you terrified to
4:52approach?" I have never said don't cold
4:54approach. What I've always said is cold
4:57approach to build a social circle. Don't
4:59cold approach showing intent to women
5:01who haven't shown you compliance. The
5:03data backs me up and my hundreds of
5:05testimonials back me up. You absolutely
5:07should be able to cold approach, not
5:09just to attract women. Being able to
5:11cold approach strangers is an
5:12incredible, incredible skill set to
5:14have. On big five personality traits,
5:16men generally score lower than women do
5:18when it comes to extroversion. Being
5:20extroverted, being able to go up and
5:21talk to strangers and have normal
5:23conversations with them helps you with
5:25business, it helps you with networking.
5:27It helps you with your friend group,
5:28your social group, and it helps you with
5:29dating. So, learning how to go up to
5:31strangers and cold approach is a
5:33phenomenal skill. But going up to
5:35individuals, women you see, and asking
5:37them on dates just because you find them
5:38physically attractive definitely works
5:40if she thinks you're more attractive
5:42than her. But of course, we know that's
5:44not the case. We look at any data set,
5:46we can see that the majority of women
5:48find the majority of men to be
5:50unattractive. Meaning, a woman who is a
5:52five has no interest in a man who's a
5:54five. A median woman thinks that she is
5:57far far far superior than a median man.
5:59And so, because of that, you going up to
6:01women, showing them interest and intent
6:03and asking them on a date is a losing
6:05battle. Those of you who have been
6:06trying this for the last 10, 20 years,
6:08those of you who've taken pickup boot
6:09camps, gone to see matchmakers, those of
6:11you who have gone to see these blue pill
6:13dating coaches or these anti-manosphere
6:15dating coaches who keep telling you to
6:16just be yourself, those of you who have
6:18gone to speed dating events, or those of
6:19you who have used dating apps, you know
6:21what I'm saying is true. You understand
6:23that women in general are more selective
6:24than men. And the reason why is clear.
6:26In 1972, a graduate student at Harvard
6:29named Robert Trivers came up with a
6:30groundbreaking idea called parental
6:32investment hypothesis. And basically the
6:34hypothesis works like this. In any two
6:36gender species, the gender that had the
6:38larger sex cell, i.e. more to lose
6:40during mating, that was the gender that
6:42was going to be the more selective, the
6:43pickier. And we see that with most
6:45mammals, it's females. There's a few
6:46exceptions. There's like seahorses and
6:48fishes where the males carry the
6:50children to term and so they're the ones
6:51who are more selective. But in humans,
6:53it's females. And what that also meant
6:55was that men were going to compete with
6:57other men. Males would compete with
6:58other males for those females. We find
7:00this to be the case in every single
7:02mammal. Now, here's the thing. What does
7:04that mean? That means in humans, women
7:06are more selective in general. That's
7:08not a bug. That's not a horrible thing.
7:10That's not us shaming women for being
7:12hypergamous. That's just biology. So,
7:15understanding that women in general are
7:17more selective than men. You should
7:18understand strategically,
7:20mathematically, scientifically that
7:22unless you are an incredibly
7:23good-looking man, going up to women on a
7:25regular basis and showing them that
7:26you're interested is not a good
7:28strategy. Now, if you're like, "Listen,
7:29Michael, I know what you're saying is
7:30true. I've been influenced by all these
7:32movies with these good-looking movie
7:33stars going up to women and telling them
7:35how they feel. All this milktoast
7:37generic dating advice, these pickup
7:39artists that keep telling you to go up
7:40and show women intent, and these
7:41matchmakers that keep trying to match up
7:43rich men with young women who only want
7:45money. I know none of this works. I've
7:47been trying this for years. I'm tired of
7:48beating my head up against the wall. I
7:50need a solution." If that's you, click
7:52the link below. For the rest of you,
7:53stay tuned. Which leads to the third
7:55massive misconception. This idea that we
7:57let women friend-zone us, that never
7:59happens. I want to make something
8:00absolutely abundantly clear, something
8:02that if you ever hear anybody say
8:04anything other than this, just know that
8:06they are bald-faced liars. Listen up
8:08very closely. When I say you put women
8:10in the friend zone, that does not mean
8:12women put you in the friend zone. I'm
8:14going to say it again because some of
8:16you keep getting this wrong. When I say
8:18you put women in the friend zone, that
8:20does not mean women put you in the
8:21friend zone. Those are two different
8:23things. Me putting a woman in the friend
8:25zone means I just don't show her any
8:26intent. I let her come to my social
8:28circle events. I invite her to different
8:29stuff. I give her a fist bump. I treat
8:31her like a bro. I introduce her to my
8:33other female friends, my other high
8:34status guy friends. I don't hit on her.
8:37I just put her in the friend zone. A lot
8:39of times women are super confused by
8:40this because they're used to every man
8:41hitting on them, especially women who
8:43are exceptionally attractive. But I
8:44don't do that. I tell all my clients to
8:47put every single woman they meet in the
8:49friend zone. Now, here's the problem.
8:50Guys, hear that and immediately think,
8:52"No, I'm going to get put in the friend
8:54zone." Nuh-uh. There is no way for you
8:56to get put in the friend zone if you do
8:58not show a woman intent. I'm going to
9:00say that a second time. I am willing to
9:01die on this hill. I will debate 50 of
9:03you at once. This is an absolute
9:05unassalable fact. A woman cannot put you
9:08in the friend zone if you don't show her
9:10intent. I'm going to say it a third time
9:12just in case any of you weren't able to
9:14hear what I said. A woman cannot put you
9:17in the friend zone if you do not show
9:20her intent. But if you put her in the
9:23friend zone, what you're doing is
9:24allowing her to orbit you. Much like how
9:27women want men to orbit them, women get
9:29now get to orbit you and see relevancy,
9:31competency, humor, charisma,
9:33pre-selection, social proof, access to
9:35scarce resources, locations, networks,
9:37and leadership. She gets to see all
9:39these incredible qualities that you have
9:41without you having to hit on her because
9:43you put her in your self-contained
9:46friend group, your social circle. Which
9:48leads me to one of my favorite
9:49peer-reviewed papers of all time, look
9:51up 2015 Lucy Hunt study, which goes over
9:54leveling the playing field. Basically,
9:55what they did is they took hundreds of
9:57couples and they checked to see how long
9:59these people knew each other before they
10:00got together and they match that with
10:02the correlation of how physically
10:03attractive they were. Meaning when
10:05people knew each other for a very short
10:06amount of time, the correlation of
10:08physical attractiveness between the two
10:09of them was very high. Meaning the best
10:11way for you as a man to date a woman
10:13who's a 10 that you just met was for you
10:14to also be a 10. However, after four or
10:175 months, that correlation got cut in
10:18half and at 9 months that correlation
10:20was set to zero. Meaning, if you put a
10:22woman in your friend zone and she got to
10:25see you in your social circle, that's
10:27when a guy who was a five was dating a
10:29woman who's a 10. And I have hundreds
10:31and hundreds and hundreds and hundreds
10:34and hundreds of examples of this
10:36happening every single time because
10:37instead of hitting on women and showing
10:40them intent, showing them the certainty
10:41that you're interested in them instead
10:43of the uncertainty which could generate
10:44attraction, you're letting them know
10:46that you're attracted to them, which
10:47lets them know that you're of lower
10:48sexual market value. And additionally,
10:50if you put a woman in the friend zone
10:52and she's able to see the other women
10:54that you've dated, your social
10:55alignments, how much social proof you
10:57have, how much pre-selection you have,
10:58what you're able to do is generate
11:01attraction. Here's the thing. When you
11:02talk to the mainstream dating coach, the
11:04milktoast dating coach, they do not
11:06fundamentally understand how to generate
11:08attraction with women who aren't
11:10attracted to you. When you talk to the
11:11matchmaker, they definitely do not
11:13understand this concept. When you get on
11:14the dating app, you're not able on the
11:16dating app to show pre-selection or
11:17social proof. all they can do is see a
11:19picture of you and swipe. You're not
11:20able to in any of these formats, you're
11:23not able to generate attraction. The
11:25only way for you as an averagel looking
11:27man to be able to generate attraction
11:28with an extremely good-looking woman is
11:31social circle. So, what does that mean?
11:32So, since I'm the top authority in the
11:34entire world on this subject, you don't
11:36believe me, you can look it up yourself.
11:37If you want to understand what social
11:38circle is, here [snorts] is the
11:40definition. And if there was another
11:41definition, you can throw it away cuz
11:42this from this point forward is the
11:44definition. Taking women from an
11:45unfamiliar environment to a familiar
11:47environment is social circle. Taking
11:50women that you just met who might be
11:52attracted to you or might not be
11:53attracted to you, inviting them to a
11:55common event where she can see
11:56relevancy, competency, humor, charisma,
11:58pre-selection, social proof, and these
11:59other things that generate attraction.
12:01taking her from the unfamiliar
12:02environment where Chad and Tyrone crush
12:04you, like going up to talk to women at
12:06bars and clubs or using dating apps, and
12:08taking her to a social circle
12:09environment like a charity gala, you
12:11guys going to play frisbee golf, going
12:13out to a park together, going to the
12:15movies together, or going to a house
12:16party. You going into this social circle
12:18environment allows you to be able to,
12:20wait for it, generate attraction with
12:22women who aren't attracted to you. So,
12:25one more time, I've given you several
12:26examples in case any of you are confused
12:27about this or if any of you want to
12:29discuss this further. When you do cold
12:30approach and show intent, when you use a
12:33dating app, when you use matchmakers or
12:34when you do speed dating, that is very
12:36effective for women who already find you
12:39attractive. If a woman sees you as an
12:41eight and she sees herself as a six and
12:43you come up and show intent, that will
12:45work some of the time. So, for those of
12:47you right there, for the 4% of you on
12:49dating apps who get all the right
12:50swipes, this is a great strategy for
12:52you. Don't listen to anything I'm
12:53saying. If you have an Academy Award, if
12:54you have a billion dollars, you won an
12:56NBA championship, if you're incredibly
12:58famous, you're a streamer with 40
12:59million followers, don't listen to
13:01anything I say. Go direct with every
13:03single woman you you can. If you are
13:05Drake, you should go direct. But if
13:07you're below Drake, if you're in that
13:09bottom 98 percentile all the way down to
13:12zero, you probably shouldn't be showing
13:13intent to women who have not shown you
13:15any compliance. You probably shouldn't
13:17be showing intent to women who are not
13:19attracted to you. So while cold
13:21approach, dating apps, and matchmakers
13:23are for women who are already attracted
13:25to you, social circle is for women who
13:27aren't attracted to you yet. Social
13:29circle is the only mechanism where a
13:31woman can stay in your environment where
13:33you can generate attraction with her.
13:36Now, here's the thing. I want you to
13:37think about a bonfire. I want you to
13:38think about a bunch of people sitting
13:40around a bonfire. The bonfire doesn't
13:42know that there's people sitting around
13:43it. The bonfire just generates heat. The
13:45bonfire doesn't focus its heat in one
13:47direction or another. The bonfire just
13:49focuses heat in all directions. If
13:51everybody got up and left, the bonfire
13:52would still be hot. If everyone came and
13:54sat around the bonfire, the bonfire
13:56would heat everyone. That's how I want
13:57you to be with your attractiveness. I
13:59want you to be able to generate
14:00attraction in all directions at all
14:02times using the mechanisms that I teach
14:04you in social circle. But I don't need
14:06you to direct it at one woman like a
14:08laser. It's for everyone. Everyone gets
14:10to see that you're loud and boisterous.
14:12Everyone gets to see that you're
14:13confident. Everyone gets to see that
14:15you're competent and relevant and have
14:17social proof. Everyone gets to see your
14:18pre-selection. Everyone gets to see your
14:20leadership. It's not focused on one
14:22woman. Just like an attractive woman,
14:24her attractiveness is in all 360 degrees
14:26and everyone who witnesses her sees that
14:29she is physically attractive. I want to
14:31create the same thing for you in a
14:33social circle environment where multiple
14:35women get to see your attractive
14:36qualities. You get to provide warmth for
14:39the room just like a fire. And in doing
14:40so, you don't show direct individual
14:42intent towards any one woman. Now, I
14:44already know what's going to happen. I
14:45made a video where I was back in London
14:47and I was talking about how cold
14:48approach pickup showing intent is
14:50completely outdated. And if you guys
14:51will read the comments, it made so many
14:53people angry. They were coming after me
14:55and I'm going to say to them what I'm
14:56going to say to you guys right now. If
14:57you want to criticize anything that I'm
14:59saying, that's totally fine. If you want
15:00to come in there and talk about
15:01Michael's scared to talk to this girl or
15:03whatever, forgetting about the fact that
15:05I was actually an approach coach for the
15:06Venian Arts 18 years ago. If you want to
15:08say whatever you want, ironically, not
15:10recognizing that whoever your favorite
15:11pickup artist coaches, I've done more
15:13cold approach than they have and they
15:15haven't done any social circle. However,
15:17you want to criticize me, I only ask one
15:19thing. When you criticize me and tell me
15:21that you doing cold approach pickup has
15:23actually gotten you hotter women, you've
15:25got to leave your Instagram in the
15:27comment. You have to show the results
15:28that you got that are so much better
15:30than doing social circle. If you don't
15:32leave a link to your Instagram in the
15:34comment, I'm probably just going to
15:35delete your comment. I'm tired of
15:37sitting there listening to these people
15:38misinformed talk about, "Oh, I did cold
15:40approach and I met all these hot girls."
15:42And I'm like, "Cool. Show your proof."
15:44And then all of a sudden I get all these
15:45insults. No more of that. If you're a
15:47dating coach and you hate my content, if
15:49you think I'm taking all your clients
15:50and you think that I'm misinforming all
15:52that all these people, fine. Leave your
15:53Instagram in the comments. Show your
15:55proof. I don't mind if you don't want to
15:57show proof. What I have a problem with
15:58is that when I show proof, you criticize
16:00mine. If you're going to criticize my
16:02evidence, the fact that I can show
16:04hundreds and hundreds and hundreds and
16:06hundreds of testimonials proving that
16:08what I'm saying is right. If you want to
16:09criticize that, that's fine. It's just
16:11now you've got to show your proof as
16:13well. And of course, nobody will. I've
16:15been trying this for weeks, months,
16:17years, and every time I get these
16:18criticisms, nobody wants to show their
16:20proof. So, number one, if you don't
16:22leave a link to your Instagram in the
16:24comment, I'm not going to accept your
16:25comment. Number two, I'm going to ask
16:27you five questions. I want you to answer
16:28these questions honestly. All you
16:30hardcore cold approach guys out there,
16:32all you dudes, you old rich sugar
16:33daddies who keep paying women, or you
16:35guys who are on these matchmaker sites,
16:37or all you guys who keep manipulating
16:39your photos to try to dominate on dating
16:41apps, all of you guys, I want you to
16:43answer these five questions. Your
16:44friends who hate me, the ones who think
16:46I have the most punchable face in the
16:47world, I want you to send this video to
16:49them and I want you to have them
16:51honestly answer these five questions.
16:53Number one, how many social events were
16:56you invited to last month? And I'm
16:57talking about social events where
16:59there's more women than men or there's
17:01very very high status men. Be honest.
17:03Don't tell me that every time you go to
17:04the club, that's not being invited to a
17:06social event. How many times were you
17:08invited to a mansion party with
17:09millionaires and billionaires? How many
17:11times were you invited to go to a party,
17:13a dinner, a birthday where there's way
17:14more women than men? How many times were
17:16you invited on stage at a concert? How
17:19many times were you invited to an event
17:20where there were way more women than men
17:22or way more high status individuals? How
17:24many times in the last month have you
17:26been invited? Number two, how many women
17:28in your life right now could comfortably
17:31introduce you to more attractive women?
17:33For me, I would probably say it's
17:35probably 7 or 800. How many women in
17:38your life think highly enough of you and
17:41know enough other attractive women that
17:43where they would invite you to events
17:44where there's other attractive women or
17:45they would introduce you to other
17:47attractive women that you could possibly
17:48go out with? How many, be honest, how
17:51many female friends that are on your
17:53side would be willing to introduce you
17:55to other women? Number three, answer
17:57this honestly. If I were to look at your
17:59Instagram right now, does it look like
18:00you're someone that people know, trust,
18:02and want to be around? Does your
18:04Instagram show compliance that people
18:06enjoy your company? Do people follow you
18:08and comment? Do you just have photos up
18:10there where you're just sitting by
18:11yourself in a the lobby of a hotel by
18:13yourself and there's no women who like
18:15your photos or comment on them at all?
18:17Guys, I'm a male performance coach. My
18:19following should be 99% men, but it's
18:22only 84% men, which mean there's about
18:2442,000 women who follow me. And the
18:27reason why is because I show a lifestyle
18:29on social media that it's fun. People
18:31want to hang out with me. They trust me.
18:33They enjoy being around me. They show me
18:35compliance. And when we go out and have
18:37a great time, everything is taken care
18:38of, and everyone enjoys themselves. Ask
18:40yourself, does your Instagram show the
18:42same thing? Number four, how often do
18:45you create social environments or get
18:47invited to social environments where
18:49people can meet each other where you can
18:50be the connector, the suggesttor, or the
18:52content creator? How often per month do
18:54you get groups of friends together? How
18:56often are you trying to be a wingman for
18:57your homeboys and get them with a girl?
18:59How often are you trying to introduce
19:00successful people to one another? How
19:02often are you introducing one beautiful
19:04woman to another? How many times per
19:06month is that happening for you? And
19:07finally, number five, and this is going
19:09to hurt for some of you. If I were to
19:10take away your cold approach, your
19:12dating apps, your passport bro stuff,
19:14your matchmaker, all those other things,
19:16how many natural opportunities in your
19:19life would you have to meet someone to
19:21date? How many natural occurrences would
19:23you have in a month to actually meet
19:25awesome people to network with? Be
19:26honest with yourself. If you honestly
19:28assess those last five questions in your
19:30life and you come to the realization
19:31that your social circle is not that
19:33strong and that you've come to depend
19:34way too much on cold approach pickup
19:36dating apps or matchmakers. If you want
19:38to make a change in your life to where
19:40you can automatically create a funnel
19:42that brings amazing, beautiful women
19:43into your life competing with each other
19:45for your attention and you want to see
19:48hundreds of testimonials of other guys
19:50who've done this. 4700 other guys have
19:53already gone through this course and
19:54check out all the Trust Pilot reviews
19:56that you can possibly look at. If you
19:58want to do that, if you want to stop
19:59being skeptical and actually give Social
20:01Circle a try, take a second, click the
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