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Atendimento Gestalt - Gloria e Perls - Legendado — Transcript

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  1. 0:07I'm to interview a
  2. 0:09patient and I'd like to give you some
  3. 0:12thumbnail sketch of what gal therapy
  4. 0:15stands
  5. 0:16for G is working on an equation
  6. 0:22awareness equal pleas time equal
  7. 0:27reality in contrast to depth psychology
  8. 0:30we try to get hold of the obvious of the
  9. 0:34surface of the situation in which we
  10. 0:36find ourselves and to develop the
  11. 0:39emerging Gestalt strictly on the I and
  12. 0:43thou Here and Now basis any Escape into
  13. 0:48the future or the past is examined as a
  14. 0:52likely resistance against the ongoing
  15. 0:58encounter modern man has alienated given
  16. 1:03up so much of his potential that his
  17. 1:05ability to cope with his existence
  18. 1:07becomes badly
  19. 1:09impoverished my aim is
  20. 1:13this the patient should recover his lost
  21. 1:17potential he should integrate the
  22. 1:19conflicting
  23. 1:21polarities understand the difference
  24. 1:23between game playing especially the
  25. 1:26playing of verbal
  26. 1:28games on the one hand hand and of
  27. 1:31genuine authentic be confident behavior
  28. 1:34on the
  29. 1:35other the Civil War of inner conflicts
  30. 1:39weakens the efficiency and comfort of
  31. 1:41the patient but every bit of integration
  32. 1:45will strength
  33. 1:47it now in the safe emergency of the
  34. 1:50therapeutic situation I repeat in the
  35. 1:54safe emergency of the therapeutic
  36. 1:57situation the patient begins to take
  37. 2:00risks and to transform his energies
  38. 2:03from manipulating the environment for
  39. 2:07support into developing greater greater
  40. 2:10selfs support that is reliance on his
  41. 2:13own
  42. 2:15resources this process is called
  43. 2:20maturation once the patient has learned
  44. 2:23to stand on its own feet emotionally
  45. 2:25intellectually and economically his need
  46. 2:28for therapy will collapse
  47. 2:30he will wake up from The Nightmare of
  48. 2:32his
  49. 2:34existence the basic technique is
  50. 2:37this not to explain things to the
  51. 2:41patient but to provide the patient with
  52. 2:44opportunities to understand and to
  53. 2:47discover
  54. 2:49himself for this purpose I manipulate
  55. 2:52and frustrate the patient in such a way
  56. 2:55that he's confronting
  57. 2:58himself in this process he identifies
  58. 3:01with his lost potential for instance
  59. 3:04through assimilating his projections by
  60. 3:06acting
  61. 3:08out by acting out the alien parts of
  62. 3:11himself principally I consider any
  63. 3:15interpretation to be a therapeutic
  64. 3:17mistake as this would imply that the
  65. 3:20therapist understands the patient better
  66. 3:23than the patient
  67. 3:24himself takes away from the patient a
  68. 3:26chance of discovering himself
  69. 3:30by
  70. 3:31himself and prevents him from finding
  71. 3:35out his own values and star on the other
  72. 3:40hand I disregard most of the content of
  73. 3:44what the patient says and concentrate
  74. 3:46most on the nonverbal level as this is
  75. 3:49the only which only one which is less
  76. 3:52subject to self deception then his
  77. 3:55verbal pseudo
  78. 3:57self-expression on the non-verbal level
  79. 4:00the relevant gal will always emerge and
  80. 4:04can dealt with in the here and
  81. 4:13now we are going to an interview for
  82. 4:16half an
  83. 4:21hour right away I'm
  84. 4:24scared you say you're scared but you're
  85. 4:27smiling I don't understand how one can
  86. 4:29be scared and smile at the same
  87. 4:34time and I'm also suspicious of you I
  88. 4:36think you understand very well I think
  89. 4:38you know
  90. 4:41that when I get scared I laugh or I kid
  91. 4:44to cover up but do you have stage
  92. 4:47five uh I don't know I'm mostly aware of
  93. 4:51you I'm afraid that uh I'm afraid you're
  94. 4:54going to have such a direct attack that
  95. 4:55uh you're going to get me in the corner
  96. 4:57and I'm afraid of it I want you to be
  97. 4:58more on my side get you your corner you
  98. 5:00put your hand on your chest mhm is this
  99. 5:04your
  100. 5:05corner well it's like yeah it's like I'm
  101. 5:09afraid you know where would you like to
  102. 5:13go can you describe the corner you like
  103. 5:16to go
  104. 5:18to yeah uh it's back in the corner where
  105. 5:22where I'm completely
  106. 5:24protected and they would be safe of me
  107. 5:27for
  108. 5:28me
  109. 5:30well I know I wouldn't really well feel
  110. 5:33it made you wear this corner you're
  111. 5:35perfectly safe now what would you do in
  112. 5:38this corner I just sit you just sit yes
  113. 5:42well how long would you sit I don't know
  114. 5:45but this is so funny as you're saying
  115. 5:47this this reminds me of when I was a
  116. 5:48little girl every time I was afraid I'd
  117. 5:51feel better sitting in a corner okay
  118. 5:53panicky are you a little girl well no
  119. 5:56but it's the same feeling are you a
  120. 5:58little girl
  121. 6:00this feeling reminds me of it are you a
  122. 6:02little girl no no no at last how old are
  123. 6:05you 30 then you're not a little girl no
  124. 6:10okay so you're
  125. 6:1230-year-old girl who's afraid of a guy
  126. 6:16like me well I don't even know if I I do
  127. 6:19know I'll be afraid of you you I get
  128. 6:21real defensive with
  129. 6:23you now what can I do to
  130. 6:27you you can't do anything but I can
  131. 6:29share feel dumb and I can feel stupid
  132. 6:31for not having the right answers now
  133. 6:33what would it do for you to be feel dumb
  134. 6:35and stupid I hate it when I'm stupid
  135. 6:38what would it do for you to be dumb and
  136. 6:42stupid but it put it so like this what
  137. 6:45would it do to me if you would play dumb
  138. 6:48and stupid that makes you all the
  139. 6:50smarter and all the higher above me then
  140. 6:52I really have to look up to you cuz
  141. 6:54you're so smart yeah oh yeah and but me
  142. 6:56up right and
  143. 6:58left all I think you can do that all by
  144. 7:02yourself I think the other way around if
  145. 7:05you play dumb and stupid you force me to
  146. 7:08be more
  147. 7:11explicit that's been said to me before
  148. 7:14but I don't buy it I don't what are you
  149. 7:16doing with your feet
  150. 7:18now
  151. 7:21wiggling what's a joke now no I'm afraid
  152. 7:24you're going to notice everything I do
  153. 7:26GE I don't you want me yeah I want you
  154. 7:29to help me become more relaxed yes I
  155. 7:31don't want to be so defensive with you I
  156. 7:33don't like to feel so
  157. 7:38defensive
  158. 7:40um you're acting like you're treating me
  159. 7:43as if I'm stronger than I am and I want
  160. 7:44you to protect me more and be nicer to
  161. 7:47me are you aware of your smile you don't
  162. 7:50believe a word what I do too but I know
  163. 7:52you're going to pick on me for it sure
  164. 7:55your block your
  165. 7:58FY
  166. 8:00do you believe are you meaning that
  167. 8:01seriously yeah if you say you're afraid
  168. 8:04and you laugh and you giggle and you
  169. 8:07squir it's
  170. 8:09funny you put a performance for me oh I
  171. 8:13I resent that very much can you explicit
  172. 8:16yes sir I most certainly am not being
  173. 8:18phony I will admit this it's hard for me
  174. 8:21to show my embarrassment and I hate to
  175. 8:23be embarrassed but boy I resent you
  176. 8:25calling me a phony just because I smile
  177. 8:28when I'm embarrassed or I'm put in the
  178. 8:29corner doesn't mean I'm being a phony
  179. 8:31wonderful thank you if you didn't spell
  180. 8:34for the last minute well I'm mad at you
  181. 8:36I that's right you didn't have to cover
  182. 8:39up your anger with your
  183. 8:43smile now you in that moment in that
  184. 8:46minute you were not a pH well at that
  185. 8:49minute I was mad though I wasn't
  186. 8:50embarrassed in other words when you're
  187. 8:52mad you're not a
  188. 8:54phony I still resent that I'm not a
  189. 8:57phony when I'm nervous again I I want to
  190. 9:00get mad at you I you know what I'd like
  191. 9:03to do I I I Want You On My Level so I
  192. 9:06can pick on you just as much as you're
  193. 9:07picking on me okay pick on
  194. 9:15me I have to wait till you say something
  195. 9:17that I can pick on but what does this
  196. 9:19mean can you develop this
  197. 9:21movement it's a I can't find words I
  198. 9:24want to develop this as if you been
  199. 9:28dancing
  200. 9:33I want to start all over again with you
  201. 9:35okay let's s all over I know a corner
  202. 9:37I'd like to put you on I'd like to ask
  203. 9:38you a question and and because I have a
  204. 9:40feeling you don't like me right off the
  205. 9:42bat and I want to know if you do can you
  206. 9:45not play Fritz SPS not liking Gloria
  207. 9:48what would he
  208. 9:50say he'd say that she's a phony for one
  209. 9:53say you are a phony you're a phony and
  210. 9:56you're a flip little
  211. 9:58girl and you're show
  212. 10:01off what would Gloria answer to
  213. 10:05that I I I know what I'd answer I'd say
  214. 10:08I think you are too no say tell this to
  215. 10:12me tell me what a funny I am well
  216. 10:18I'm see your
  217. 10:21for phon is not quite the right word but
  218. 10:24it's more like a a show off a show like
  219. 10:28you know all the answers
  220. 10:30yeah and I want you to be more human and
  221. 10:32that doesn't seem very human to me to
  222. 10:34know other answers is not very human
  223. 10:37yeah to right away find out how I'm
  224. 10:38kicking my feet and why am I doing like
  225. 10:40this why are you doing like that oh dear
  226. 10:42I've got eyes I can see you kicking your
  227. 10:44feet I don't need a a scientific
  228. 10:47computer to see that you're kicking your
  229. 10:49feet what's big about
  230. 10:52that you don't need to be wise to see
  231. 10:54that you're kicking your feet I know but
  232. 10:57it seems like you're trying to find some
  233. 10:58reason for it
  234. 11:00I
  235. 11:01don't this your imagination okay I know
  236. 11:04what I'd like from you can I tell you
  237. 11:05what I'd like from you yeah I'd like you
  238. 11:07to be aware that I'm kicking my feet and
  239. 11:09to be aware that I'm giggling when I'm
  240. 11:11really nervous and accept it instead of
  241. 11:13putting me on the defensive having to
  242. 11:14explain it I don't want to have to
  243. 11:17explain why I'm doing these things did I
  244. 11:19ask you to explain you said why am I or
  245. 11:21what am I doing well what am I doing you
  246. 11:23said that's right kicking your feet I
  247. 11:25didn't ask you to explain
  248. 11:27it is your imagin
  249. 11:31it's not his FRS it's the frits of your
  250. 11:33imagination it's big
  251. 11:40difference now do this
  252. 11:43again
  253. 11:45again how do you feel
  254. 11:50now I don't
  255. 11:52know playing
  256. 11:54stupid I'm not playing stupid I don't
  257. 11:58know the right answer this is playing
  258. 12:12stupid you did something with your hair
  259. 12:14there is by chance something in my hair
  260. 12:17that you object to no
  261. 12:20no
  262. 12:23okay no but I your your hair and your
  263. 12:27features go along with the the feeling I
  264. 12:29had about you earlier I I had a feeling
  265. 12:31I could be afraid of
  266. 12:32you and you're the type of person that
  267. 12:35seems like you demand so much respect
  268. 12:36and so
  269. 12:39you're please play Fritz I demand so
  270. 12:41much respect play this Fritz you just
  271. 12:46saw well you know how smart I am I know
  272. 12:49more about psychology than you do Gloria
  273. 12:52so anything I say of course is right can
  274. 12:55you say the same as Gloria something
  275. 12:57similar as
  276. 12:58Gloria
  277. 13:00but the same act as
  278. 13:02Glory I demand respect
  279. 13:07because I don't
  280. 13:10know no I don't I identify it with my
  281. 13:13father but not me I don't feel I demand
  282. 13:14respect you don't Dem me respect no sure
  283. 13:18not as a matter of fact I'd like more
  284. 13:20I'd like you to respect me more no you
  285. 13:22see so you're the man
  286. 13:25respect all right
  287. 13:27yes yes as a matter how to if I could
  288. 13:29demand respect from you I would but do
  289. 13:34it who's preventing you except
  290. 13:41yourself cuz I feel if I get myself out
  291. 13:43on the corner you're going to let me
  292. 13:44just drown you're not going to help me
  293. 13:47one bit and I know that I can't quite
  294. 13:48come up to standards with you what
  295. 13:50should I do when you're the
  296. 13:54corner encourage me to come out oh you
  297. 13:59don't have
  298. 14:01enough courage to come out by yourself
  299. 14:04you need somebody pull little mims in
  300. 14:06the stress out of a corner yes so
  301. 14:09anytime you want somebody to uh pay
  302. 14:12attention to you call into a corner and
  303. 14:15wait till The Rescuer comes yes that's
  304. 14:17exactly what I'd like and this is what I
  305. 14:19call phony pardon me this is what I call
  306. 14:22phony why is it phony I'm admitting to
  307. 14:25you what I am how is that a phony that
  308. 14:27is a phony because it's a trick it's a
  309. 14:30gimmick to crawl into a corner and wait
  310. 14:32there until somebody comes to your
  311. 14:33rescue I'm admitting it I know what I'm
  312. 14:36doing I'm not being phony I'm not
  313. 14:38pretending I'm so
  314. 14:40brave I resent that I feel like you're
  315. 14:42saying unless I come out openly and
  316. 14:45stand on my own I'm not a phony baloney
  317. 14:47I'm just as just as real sitting in that
  318. 14:49corner as I am out here all by myself
  319. 14:51but you're not sitting in that well not
  320. 14:58now
  321. 15:01and besides that it's like passing
  322. 15:03judgment when you call me phony I just
  323. 15:04hate that anyway now we're getting
  324. 15:07somewhere I call anybody phony who puts
  325. 15:11them in
  326. 15:13act and if you like somebody you want to
  327. 15:16meet this
  328. 15:17person to go to this person tell them I
  329. 15:20would like to meet you I would call not
  330. 15:23for me but if you coly go into that
  331. 15:27corner waiting to be rescue this I call
  332. 15:30F this I called and I still think you're
  333. 15:33judgmental you know what I have a
  334. 15:35feeling you've never felt this way in
  335. 15:36your life you feel so secure that you
  336. 15:38don't have to feel anybody that does
  337. 15:40something like this you're going to pass
  338. 15:41judgment on there being a phony well I
  339. 15:43resent it good now play Fritz passing
  340. 15:45judgment you are you're sitting up there
  341. 15:47in your big old chair I am Fritz I pass
  342. 15:53judgment pass judgment on me
  343. 15:57now I don't feel close to you at all Dr
  344. 16:01pearls I feel that's phony I feel like
  345. 16:03you're playing one big game
  346. 16:06right sure we're playing games but in
  347. 16:09spite of the games I think I've touched
  348. 16:12you now and then I think I hurt you when
  349. 16:14I called you a phone well of course you
  350. 16:16did and I think I hit the bull's eye
  351. 16:19that's why you feel
  352. 16:23hurt I don't know all I know is when
  353. 16:25somebody when I feel the way I feel with
  354. 16:27you right now it's like you don't have
  355. 16:30feeling alline now exaggerate this what
  356. 16:33you just did that's it don't talk to me
  357. 16:37like this I can't I can't I want to
  358. 16:39laugh I want to I'd like you to be
  359. 16:40younger than me so I could really scold
  360. 16:42you how old must have
  361. 16:44be my age three good I'm 30 now imagine
  362. 16:48I'm 30 and now you're SC okay don't be
  363. 16:51so sure of yourself don't think
  364. 16:53you're so dog on Smart don't act so
  365. 16:55proud because you've never been in the
  366. 16:56corner I think you can be just as big a
  367. 16:58phony parading around like you're so
  368. 17:00damn smart you know all the answers as
  369. 17:02much as me sitting in my
  370. 17:04corner oh and I like the feeling of you
  371. 17:06being younger I'd like to really I'd
  372. 17:08like to embarrass you yeah embarrass me
  373. 17:11well you you wouldn't get embarrassed
  374. 17:13you seem
  375. 17:14unaffected tell me embarrass me tell me
  376. 17:17how old how ugly I
  377. 17:20am you don't look old ugly you look
  378. 17:22distinguished and that gives you that's
  379. 17:24all the more on your side if you look so
  380. 17:26distinguished then see that's more on
  381. 17:28your side too well Gloria can you say
  382. 17:31one thing we had quite a good fight no I
  383. 17:35no MM no I F I don't think you're
  384. 17:38fighting with me but I F you came out
  385. 17:40quite a
  386. 17:42bit well I'm mad at you
  387. 17:45wonderful but you seem so detached you
  388. 17:48don't even seem to care that I'm mad at
  389. 17:51you I feel like you're not recognizing
  390. 17:54me at all Dr pearls not a bit this is
  391. 17:57quite true our contact is much too
  392. 18:00superficial to be involved in caring I
  393. 18:03care for you as far as let's see you're
  394. 18:08right now my client I care for you as
  395. 18:10far as I like to like an artist bring
  396. 18:14something out which is hidden in you is
  397. 18:17as far as I
  398. 18:22care well I'd like you
  399. 18:25to I'd like to feel that there's some
  400. 18:28it's frustrating if I were to leave you
  401. 18:29right now and not seean it would
  402. 18:31frustrate me to feel like there hadn't
  403. 18:32been more contact I feel completely out
  404. 18:34of contact with you like I'm talking to
  405. 18:36the baby that doesn't understand me or
  406. 18:38something like that I don't feel like
  407. 18:40we're a bit in contact and that ooh that
  408. 18:41frustrates
  409. 18:43me that bothers me more than being angry
  410. 18:45with you I'd rather we were angry and
  411. 18:47fought than to have no
  412. 18:49contact yeah this reminds me of when my
  413. 18:52husband and I used to fight he sits
  414. 18:54there and he listens to me but he's not
  415. 18:55even aware of how much I hate him and
  416. 18:57how mad I am at him rather yeah I'd
  417. 19:00rather affect you you'd really hate me
  418. 19:02or
  419. 19:06something and I feel like you're
  420. 19:07purposely staying out of contact with me
  421. 19:10how should I
  422. 19:11be give me your fantasy how how could I
  423. 19:15share you my concern with
  424. 19:18you I can't say in words I know the
  425. 19:21feeling I'd see on you but I can't say
  426. 19:23it's just a feeling
  427. 19:25like I don't
  428. 19:27know it's like I want you to respect me
  429. 19:30more as a human being that I've got
  430. 19:31feelings now we come back to the
  431. 19:33beginning so you want respect yes I do I
  432. 19:37do this is a different kind of respect
  433. 19:39than I meant the first time but you want
  434. 19:41you need respect
  435. 19:45yes I respect you so much as a human
  436. 19:48being that I refuse to accept the fly
  437. 19:50part of yourself and address myself to
  438. 19:53the genuine part right now the last few
  439. 19:56minutes you were wonderfully genuine
  440. 20:00you were not playing
  441. 20:03anymore I could see you were really
  442. 20:07hting well I don't feel I've got a right
  443. 20:11when I don't like somebody or I disagree
  444. 20:13with somebody's doing if if I should
  445. 20:15respect them if they're above me they're
  446. 20:16Superior to me I don't feel I've got a
  447. 20:18right to really really tell you how mad
  448. 20:19I am at that's that's
  449. 20:22garbage you're not JY JY you're getting
  450. 20:25bed into your safe Corner that's the way
  451. 20:28it feel that's what the safe Corner
  452. 20:29feels like to me now go back to your
  453. 20:32safe Corner because you have to part
  454. 20:34very soon you stay in your safe corner
  455. 20:36you came out for a moment you nearly met
  456. 20:39me could get a little bit angry with me
  457. 20:42now go back to your safety I feel like
  458. 20:44you're telling me the only way you
  459. 20:45respect me as a human being if I'm
  460. 20:47aggressive and forceful and strong you I
  461. 20:50feel like you couldn't even accept my
  462. 20:52I'd be scared to death to cry in front
  463. 20:53of you I feel like you'd laugh at me and
  464. 20:55call me a phony I feel like you don't
  465. 20:58accept my weak side only when I'm
  466. 20:59yelling back at you or hollering at
  467. 21:02you you must be cry my presence well I
  468. 21:06wouldn't even give you the satisfaction
  469. 21:08see this again no see this
  470. 21:13again I try not to I try not to cry in
  471. 21:16front of you or show my weak spot for
  472. 21:17fear you'd jump on me again are you
  473. 21:19really that your eyes are moist I'm
  474. 21:21aware that I feel more chokey yes I feel
  475. 21:24it could you choke
  476. 21:27me
  477. 21:30pretend but not for real why not for
  478. 21:32real well because I don't hate you that
  479. 21:34much no you want to choke my tear SP you
  480. 21:37want me to choke you so you wouldn't
  481. 21:41cry I'd like to if I'd like to choke you
  482. 21:43it would be to make you cry I'd like to
  483. 21:46see you
  484. 21:47weak I'd like to see you hurt and and
  485. 21:52vulnerable what would do this do for
  486. 21:56you make me feel like I
  487. 21:59I have more of a right to be hurt and
  488. 22:01you wouldn't jump on me so quick would
  489. 22:03you jump on me if I would cry no mm- but
  490. 22:07I would jump on you if you would
  491. 22:09cry you're sure of
  492. 22:12this no I'm not sure of it
  493. 22:16uh what would what would you like me to
  494. 22:19do if you were to
  495. 22:23cry I was you're smiling you're smiling
  496. 22:26something off well because I got two
  497. 22:27feelings I was I was going to say I want
  498. 22:29you to I want you to love me and hug me
  499. 22:31but then I thought no I don't want to
  500. 22:34what's your objection I'd be scared to
  501. 22:36be too close to
  502. 22:37you now we're getting somewhere first
  503. 22:40you want to be close to me now you're
  504. 22:42afraid to be too close to me is what I'm
  505. 22:45saying but that's right now we got the
  506. 22:48two PS of your existence but they're two
  507. 22:50different feelings close I mean
  508. 22:52emotionally but not physically yeah but
  509. 22:55you've got the two PS of your existence
  510. 22:57now
  511. 22:58either far away in a
  512. 23:01corner or be so close that you get melt
  513. 23:05into one with other
  514. 23:09person it apparently you travel between
  515. 23:11the two
  516. 23:17extremes I do you know what I'm thinking
  517. 23:20when I am really hurt and really uh
  518. 23:23upset about something and I want someone
  519. 23:25to love me like my girlfriend will do it
  520. 23:27a lot and she'll come up to hug me
  521. 23:28I don't I don't want it exactly
  522. 23:32see that's what I'm talking about you
  523. 23:35cannot sustain
  524. 23:39contact okay this is
  525. 23:43garbage but are you afraid if you were
  526. 23:45too close to your girlfriend if you let
  527. 23:47her hug you um the only thing I'm aware
  528. 23:50of is like when I pire It embarrasses me
  529. 23:53that should feel how wet I am and it
  530. 23:55should hold my body up close and I don't
  531. 23:58know are you aware of your facial
  532. 24:00expression kind of disgust com me yes I
  533. 24:03am do this more please icky I it's just
  534. 24:08icky I can just feel what it is I don't
  535. 24:10like it can you say this to me Fritz
  536. 24:11you're
  537. 24:17icky no
  538. 24:19no what's your difficulty cuz I feel
  539. 24:23like if you really believe me that would
  540. 24:24hurt your
  541. 24:25feelings oh you must hurt my feelings
  542. 24:30well I thought I was so indifferent you
  543. 24:32said before that nothing could touch me
  544. 24:35now you suddenly discovered a way to
  545. 24:37touch me isn't
  546. 24:40it well you know what I believe I
  547. 24:43believe you're the type of person sort
  548. 24:44of like me that you act like it wouldn't
  549. 24:46hurt your feelings but it really would
  550. 24:48you act strong but you're you're soft
  551. 24:51and vulnerable inside there
  552. 24:54too I think your feelings could be hurt
  553. 24:57sure
  554. 24:59but I don't think you'd show it very
  555. 25:01easy what would I
  556. 25:03do how would I conceal my feelings by
  557. 25:07turning it back on me by saying now what
  558. 25:10did you get from that Gloria you turn
  559. 25:12the whole thing back on me instead of
  560. 25:14showing how hurt you were now can you
  561. 25:16say this to Fritz how did you what did
  562. 25:18you get out of this Fritz say this to me
  563. 25:21what you get out of what what you just
  564. 25:23say just a
  565. 25:27sentence
  566. 25:29sure I know what you'd get out of it if
  567. 25:30I said what did you get out of this FR
  568. 25:32you'd
  569. 25:33say nothing it didn't bother me it was
  570. 25:36you that did it you still wouldn't let
  571. 25:37me know you were hurt but I know what it
  572. 25:39would be if you told your true feelings
  573. 25:41that you didn't want to show your hurt
  574. 25:42so you covered it up same way with me in
  575. 25:44the corner now if I were hurt if I would
  576. 25:47cry what would you do with
  577. 25:51me you would be you wouldn't be so
  578. 25:53Superior to me you'd be more vulnerable
  579. 25:56and I could pacify you and make you feel
  580. 25:58better you could hug me yes then I could
  581. 26:01be the baby
  582. 26:03yes yes I'd like that you'd feel more On
  583. 26:06My Level I wouldn't have to feel so dumb
  584. 26:08with you and the other way around you
  585. 26:11would have to be my
  586. 26:13baby she would cry you would like to
  587. 26:17play the baby and be comforted and hug
  588. 26:19and the poor thing well I like that
  589. 26:24too but I tell you something I think we
  590. 26:27came to a nice closure I think we came
  591. 26:29to a little bit of
  592. 26:31understanding I think we finish this
  593. 26:35situation now right all
  594. 26:43right uh the demonstration was in my
  595. 26:46opinion uh quite successful and
  596. 26:49consistent with my theoretical
  597. 26:52Outlook the avoidance of the genuine
  598. 26:54encounter manifested itself in three
  599. 26:57ways the patient was first taken control
  600. 27:03by putting on a smiling sophisticated
  601. 27:05phony mask of oscillating between a
  602. 27:08pretense of being frightened and yet at
  603. 27:11the same time having me figured out thus
  604. 27:15being or believing to be fully in
  605. 27:17control of the
  606. 27:19situation
  607. 27:21secondly she was
  608. 27:23withdrawing by fantasizing of hiding in
  609. 27:26a corner
  610. 27:30thirdly she was blocking the real
  611. 27:34Encounter of melting through crying
  612. 27:37which then would have been the real
  613. 27:40emotional meaning of this
  614. 27:43meeting the patient was capable of
  615. 27:46identifying herself with several
  616. 27:48fantasies she had projected onto me she
  617. 27:51was this was especially evident with
  618. 27:53regard to her initial denial for need to
  619. 27:56be
  620. 27:57respected
  621. 27:58the need for environmental support
  622. 28:00started to come out besides her need to
  623. 28:02get
  624. 28:04respected it was verbalized in a wish to
  625. 28:06be cared for rescued from the
  626. 28:09corner and so on I broke off the session
  627. 28:13when the first tears begin to appear she
  628. 28:17be to play the role of the Lonely child
  629. 28:19and apparently wanted to be hugged and
  630. 28:22comforted but here too the assimilation
  631. 28:24of her projection began to work and she
  632. 28:27began to experience holding me like a
  633. 28:33baby apart
  634. 28:35from assisting her and assimilating her
  635. 28:38in some projections the main therapeutic
  636. 28:40Factor was to show her the inconsistency
  637. 28:43of a verbal and nonverbal behavior for
  638. 28:46instance saying that she was frightened
  639. 28:50and smiling at the same time a
  640. 28:53frightened person does not
  641. 28:57smile where I feeled was in the
  642. 28:59direction of her
  643. 29:01embarrassment this embarrassment was
  644. 29:03protected by her brazenness and anger to
  645. 29:07get to her existence existential
  646. 29:09embarrassment we would have to work
  647. 29:11through and eliminate the Foon that is
  648. 29:14the ease with which we can superficially
  649. 29:17assume any role that is required for a
  650. 29:19specific
  651. 29:20situation this pseudo adaptation is her
  652. 29:24way of coping with life this is about
  653. 29:28what I got out of this
  654. 29:35session

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