Astrophysicist Avi Loeb on Pentagon's 4th UFO files release — Transcript

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1. 0:00Well, the Pentagon today released a new
2. 0:03trove of UFO files and of the 40 new
3. 0:06files, 19 of them are videos. They're
4. 0:09coming from the Pentagon, NASA, the CIA,
5. 0:12the FBI, and the Energy Department. So,
6. 0:15let's bring in Avi Loeb who now leads
7. 0:17the White House UAP Council. Avi, what
8. 0:20can you tell us? What's What's in these
9. 0:22files? What are we looking at here?
10. 0:24>> Well, first then thank you for having
11. 0:26me. We see documents dating back to
12. 0:291948-49
13. 0:31when a conference took place in Los
14. 0:33Alamos
15. 0:35led by Edward Teller that was involved
16. 0:38in the Manhattan Project earlier.
17. 0:40And it involves quite distinguished
18. 0:43physicists talking about green
19. 0:45fireballs that they cannot figure out,
20. 0:48some objects moving horizontally.
21. 0:50And so, these objects remained
22. 0:54unresolved. And then we're seeing a
23. 0:57number of videos
24. 0:58from recent years where
25. 1:01unidentified objects appear.
26. 1:04For example, there is an object that
27. 1:07makes a 90 degrees
28. 1:09change in its trajectory, very abrupt,
29. 1:12and becomes a very thin line on the
30. 1:15image. It's unclear what this object
31. 1:17what this object is. Then there is
32. 1:19another one that looks like a formation
33. 1:21front of a multiple objects
34. 1:24moving together through the clouds and
35. 1:26we can't really tell what these objects
36. 1:29are. Um and um
37. 1:31you know, there are a number of those
38. 1:33that look like real objects, but there
39. 1:35is not enough information. And of
40. 1:37course, one objective of the council
41. 1:39that I'm leading that serves as an
42. 1:41advisory
43. 1:43council to the US government is to
44. 1:45suggest new instruments, new sensors
45. 1:48that would allow us to collect new data
46. 1:50in the future that will get to the
47. 1:52bottom of it, figure out what the nature
48. 1:54of of objects
49. 1:56is because, you know, if these are
50. 1:58technological objects, there are two
51. 1:59possibilities. Either they were sent by
52. 2:02adversarial nations, in which case they
53. 2:04are a matter of national security, or
54. 2:07this is the biggest discovery ever made
55. 2:09in science. We see technological
56. 2:12artifacts that is that are of non-human
57. 2:15origin. So, in both cases, we have to
58. 2:18figure it out, and of course, the best
59. 2:20way to do that is by getting better
60. 2:22data. And, you know, these releases
61. 2:25follow the directive from President
62. 2:27Trump a few months ago, and
63. 2:31it's a great blessing both to national
64. 2:33security and to science, and I'm really
65. 2:35happy to partner with government in
66. 2:37trying to figure them out.
67. 2:39>> I think Avi Loeb puts the untrained eye
68. 2:41when you look at some of these videos,
69. 2:42they all kind of start to look the same.
70. 2:44They're kind of grainy, it's sort of
71. 2:46this odd-looking either balloon object,
72. 2:49or the sort of weird orb there in the
73. 2:51sky. And I'm curious, are you seeing
74. 2:54stark differences between what was
75. 2:56released today and say files that were
76. 2:58released in the past? The one that
77. 3:00stands out to me, I will tell you, is
78. 3:02the one that sort of is that Star
79. 3:03Trek-looking
80. 3:05object thing. We were joking that it
81. 3:07looks like something out of Superman,
82. 3:08that maybe he flew down from Krypton on.
83. 3:11Anything else that sort of sparked your
84. 3:13interest that says, "Oh, wait, we might
85. 3:15have something here that maybe prove
86. 3:17some of these theories, or maybe
87. 3:19disprove them?"
88. 3:21>> No, at this time, there is no single
89. 3:24video image, or any other data that
90. 3:27indicates a non-human origin for any of
91. 3:29these objects. The star-looking object
92. 3:32that you mentioned could be just a
93. 3:33diffraction pattern that is often found
94. 3:36in the optics of cameras. So,
95. 3:39I would say at the moment, there is no
96. 3:41conclusive evidence, but the good news
97. 3:43is that
98. 3:44the best is yet to come, that that there
99. 3:47is
100. 3:47classified data that probably is much
101. 3:49richer and more convincing. You know, a
102. 3:51high-resolution image of one of these
103. 3:53objects would be very revealing. And the
104. 3:56fact that the US government, those
105. 3:57people in the White House, the Office of
106. 4:00the Director of National Intelligence,
107. 4:02the Pentagon, and the Intelligence
108. 4:04Community, and the FBI, the fact that
109. 4:06they are reaching out to scientists like
110. 4:08myself to try and help them figure it
111. 4:11out implies, in my mind, that
112. 4:14they believe that some of these objects
113. 4:16cannot be human-made. Cuz otherwise,
114. 4:18they would put the report in a
115. 4:21classified memo to the Secretary of War,
116. 4:23Pete Hoekstra, they would not ask me as
117. 4:26a scientist to help them figure it out.
118. 4:29So, I think we are heading in a an
119. 4:31interesting direction and
120. 4:33into the future. The future is better
121. 4:34than the past and we will figure it out
122. 4:38using the scientific method by
123. 4:40collecting more evidence. It's not a
124. 4:42matter of opinions. We should not pay
125. 4:44attention to social media. You know,
126. 4:46this is a scientific matter trying to
127. 4:48figure out the nature of these objects
128. 4:50and we'll get to the bottom of it. And
129. 4:52this is much more inspiring than the
130. 4:55script of Steven Spielberg in the recent
131. 4:58movie Disclosure Day because over there,
132. 5:01the government fights scientists and
133. 5:04crashes their car against the moving
134. 5:06train. My car is completely intact and I
135. 5:09feel privileged to help the US
136. 5:10government, you know, as an American
137. 5:12citizen
138. 5:14at the very least fulfill its mission in
139. 5:16maintaining national security.
140. 5:19>> Well, I hope we can talk to you each
141. 5:20time these batch of files are are
142. 5:22released to help us make sense of it.
143. 5:24Avi Loeb, thank you so much.
144. 5:26>> Thanks for having me.