Are Leaders Born or Made — Transcript

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1. 0:02What do you think?
2. 0:03>> I think that absolutely leaders are
3. 0:07made.
4. 0:08>> Mhm.
5. 0:08>> All these fantastic leaders that you
6. 0:10just named
7. 0:11>> Yeah.
8. 0:12>> were many years in the making.
9. 0:14>> Yeah.
10. 0:14>> If you think about any one of those
11. 0:16leaders, and they developed many skills
12. 0:19along the way.
13. 0:20>> Mhm.
14. 0:20>> Public speaking skills,
15. 0:22>> Mhm.
16. 0:22>> values and belief systems that every
17. 0:26leader needs to adopt, by the way.
18. 0:28>> Yeah.
19. 0:28>> Part of becoming a leader is to have a
20. 0:31set of values and beliefs that you
21. 0:34uniquely hold
22. 0:35>> Yeah.
23. 0:36>> that drives all that you do. An example
24. 0:39of that is what is your philosophy of
25. 0:42human behavior?
26. 0:42>> Mhm.
27. 0:44>> Do you trust people and empower? Do you
28. 0:46control people in order to make them do
29. 0:49things? So, you need to make decisions
30. 0:51on your own. That's part of the
31. 0:52leadership development journey.
32. 0:54>> Yeah.
33. 0:54>> But as you described all these fabulous
34. 0:57leaders, they learned the skills
35. 0:59>> Mhm.
36. 1:00>> around how to mobilize, how to motivate,
37. 1:02how to set an agenda, how to um
38. 1:05convey and communicate that agenda, how
39. 1:07to persuade. Um there's there's this
40. 1:11Aristotle
41. 1:13uh um
42. 1:14triangle
43. 1:15>> Mhm.
44. 1:16>> that I love where he talks about ethos,
45. 1:19pathos, and logos as uh leadership
46. 1:23skills.
47. 1:24>> Mhm.
48. 1:24>> Ethos speaks to credibility.
49. 1:27>> Yes.
50. 1:28>> All the leaders you described have
51. 1:29credibility, and they've earned those
52. 1:31credibility. They weren't born with the
53. 1:33credibility.
54. 1:33>> Mhm.
55. 1:34>> Logos
56. 1:35>> But wait wait a second. Does that You
57. 1:37know, if you come from a big family, if
58. 1:39you were like XYZ kid of XYZ, don't you
59. 1:43get a lot of credibility given to you
60. 1:45anyway?
61. 1:46>> No.
62. 1:46>> Okay.
63. 1:47>> I- I- If you think about those folks,
64. 1:49they might have some advantages, some
65. 1:51privileges,
66. 1:52>> but this credibility is absolutely
67. 1:55earned, and it's it's um, it manifests
68. 1:58in
69. 1:59what you say, what you do, and it's
70. 2:02observable.
71. 2:03So, in fact, um, unless you have
72. 2:07developed these uh, credentials over
73. 2:10time or credibility over time, it's very
74. 2:13difficult to have people follow you.
75. 2:15The second uh, piece that Aristotle has
76. 2:19advanced called logos is incredibly
77. 2:21important because it speaks to logical
78. 2:23reasoning. That's a skill.
79. 2:26People have to believe that you have
80. 2:28logical reasoning, the capacity to um,
81. 2:31intuit based on data and other things.
82. 2:34And finally, uh, he talks about pathos.
83. 2:37That's communication skills.
84. 2:39That's the ability to persuasively
85. 2:42convey to to others. Those are learned
86. 2:46skills. No one is born with them. Now,
87. 2:48I'll grant you this.
88. 2:50Uh, there's this concept called genetic
89. 2:52endowment by a Stanford University uh,
90. 2:55scholar uh, by the name of Schwartz who
91. 2:58says that we all are born with certain
92. 3:01characteristics. We do have them, and
93. 3:03that's part of what we use in our
94. 3:06careers and our lives. We can't ignore
95. 3:08that. So, someone with a booming voice,
96. 3:11you use that to communicate, but the
97. 3:13booming voice doesn't define your
98. 3:14leadership. So, there there are genetic
99. 3:17endowments that are part of our makeup,
100. 3:20but and and and once we know how to use
101. 3:24them towards good and leadership, we can
102. 3:27apply them. So, there's that piece of it
103. 3:30in terms of our birthright, but
104. 3:32otherwise, leadership is a social
105. 3:34science. Leadership is a skill. You're
106. 3:37absolutely not born as a leader. You
107. 3:40become one.