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  1. 0:07Welcome to this seminar, Learning and
  2. 0:10Teaching with Emotion in Early
  3. 0:13Childhood. I am Ana Díaz, the early
  4. 0:17childhood specialist at the University
  5. 0:22of Barcelona, and it is my turn to
  6. 0:24introduce you to our international
  7. 0:26speaker, María Antonia Riera. María
  8. 0:32Antonia is an early childhood educator
  9. 0:34and researcher, and a senior lecturer
  10. 0:37at the University of the Balearic
  11. 0:39Islands in Spain. She has spent 35
  12. 0:44years teaching in early childhood
  13. 0:47teacher training and has been the
  14. 0:49director of a university master's
  15. 0:52degree in early childhood. She has
  16. 0:56published numerous articles, but I
  17. 0:59would like to highlight those that have
  18. 1:02to do with educational innovation in
  19. 1:05early childhood. She has participated
  20. 1:09in research projects and in the
  21. 1:12implementation of socio-educational
  22. 1:15programs aimed at families of children
  23. 1:19in early childhood. Your speech today
  24. 1:23will help us recognize the key
  25. 1:26importance of emotions in teaching and
  26. 1:29learning processes. Without further ado
  27. 1:35, I will give the floor to María
  28. 1:38Antonia to begin her presentation.
  29. 1:42Thank you very much, María Antonia,
  30. 1:44for your collaboration and welcome to
  31. 1:46this space.
  32. 1:49>> Thank you very much, Ana. Can you hear
  33. 1:51me well? Well, it's
  34. 1:56>> a pleasure, thank you, Ana, for your
  35. 1:58presentation. It's a pleasure for me to
  36. 2:02connect from so far away and imagine
  37. 2:05you in your different locations, so
  38. 2:07distant, but at the same time, I
  39. 2:10believe, so close when we talk about
  40. 2:12childhood and when we talk about our
  41. 2:15commitment to education. I thank the
  42. 2:20University of Barcelona, the
  43. 2:22Organization of Ibero-American States
  44. 2:25of El Salvador for this beautiful
  45. 2:27invitation that I did not expect and
  46. 2:30that has been a gift for me to be able
  47. 2:33to share this seminar with El Salvador,
  48. 2:36a country that I do not know, but I'm
  49. 2:38sure it must be wonderful. I hope that
  50. 2:44during this time that we will share, we
  51. 2:48can reflect on some issues related to
  52. 2:51childhood, early childhood, and their
  53. 2:54well-being. If you want, I will project
  54. 3:00it, yes, I will share my presentation.
  55. 3:09Yes. Yes, can you see the presentation
  56. 3:18well? Yes,
  57. 3:20>> yes, we can see it
  58. 3:22>> very well. I have to say that the title
  59. 3:26of the seminar is very suggestive,
  60. 3:28isn't it? Because not only do children
  61. 3:32learn from emotion, but as early
  62. 3:34childhood educators we cannot teach if
  63. 3:37there is no connection and if there is
  64. 3:40no emotion. So, in that sense, we have
  65. 3:45set some goals for today's session that
  66. 3:48you...later, I know it's going to be a
  67. 3:52long day for you, and that you will
  68. 3:55analyze this relationship between
  69. 3:58well-being and learning, understand how
  70. 4:01well-being affects learning processes,
  71. 4:05reflect on the design of proposals and
  72. 4:08spaces, right? Value aesthetics as an
  73. 4:12important element for learning. So,
  74. 4:16well, let's go. Based on these goals, I
  75. 4:20have considered what were the topics
  76. 4:26that were important to interconnect
  77. 4:28when we talk about learning and
  78. 4:30relationships. And these words came to
  79. 4:34mind, right? First, the first word that
  80. 4:37is not reflected here in this diagram,
  81. 4:40but that is important is optimism.
  82. 4:44Optimism, well-being, emotions,
  83. 4:47aesthetics, learning, motivation. These
  84. 4:52are concepts that we are going to
  85. 4:54discuss in this short while and that I
  86. 4:57believe cannot be separated because
  87. 5:00learning and development cannot occur
  88. 5:03if we do not create a climate of
  89. 5:06well-being, if there are no positive
  90. 5:08relationships, if we do not design
  91. 5:11friendly and attractive environments
  92. 5:16that motivate and invite learning. So,
  93. 5:20these will be concepts that will appear
  94. 5:23throughout my presentation. I have
  95. 5:27structured my presentation in three
  96. 5:30parts. The first one I have titled
  97. 5:33Educating from Optimism and Resilience.
  98. 5:36The second, educational environments,
  99. 5:39generators of well-being and learning.
  100. 5:42The third, the role of the educator as
  101. 5:45a sensitive companion. Let's start with
  102. 5:49the first of these parts. I want to
  103. 5:53begin with this first idea that I
  104. 5:56believe unites all of us who work for
  105. 5:59children: optimism and a deep
  106. 6:02conviction in the potential of human
  107. 6:05beings. At a time of discouragement and
  108. 6:12confusion like the one we are
  109. 6:15experiencing on a global level, with a
  110. 6:19severe energy crisis, armed conflicts,
  111. 6:22painful migrations, environmental
  112. 6:25crises and many more, educators must
  113. 6:31still believe in the potential of human
  114. 6:34beings and in the potential of
  115. 6:37education. As Loris Malagucci said, we
  116. 6:43must think big and utopian, believing
  117. 6:46in the power of education to transform
  118. 6:50reality. And I wanted to begin with
  119. 6:53this idea. UNESCO's 2030 agenda, which
  120. 7:00you may be familiar with, insists that
  121. 7:05education is the cornerstone of
  122. 7:07sustainable development, human rights,
  123. 7:13promoting a culture of peace,
  124. 7:15citizenship, and valuing cultural
  125. 7:18diversity. I believe that you are
  126. 7:22surely implementing many of these
  127. 7:24values in your institutions. Therefore,
  128. 7:29the work you do is extremely important,
  129. 7:32extremely relevant for the future of
  130. 7:35the children of El Salvador. I also
  131. 7:43wanted to begin with an initial idea,
  132. 7:45which is to talk about the resilience
  133. 7:48of early childhood education centers as
  134. 7:51a space for resilience. I believe it is
  135. 7:55important to highlight the role of
  136. 7:58schools in early childhood today.
  137. 8:02Although we have heard many times about
  138. 8:05the preventive, compensatory, social
  139. 8:08and, of course, educational functions
  140. 8:11of early childhood, and there are
  141. 8:13numerous studies that show us that
  142. 8:16quality early childhood education is
  143. 8:23essential for the later development of
  144. 8:26children, we also know that investing
  145. 8:29financially in quality early childhood
  146. 8:32education services is investing in the
  147. 8:35future of humanity, right? Having said
  148. 8:42that, I understand that there is
  149. 8:44another function in addition to all
  150. 8:46those I have mentioned, which I call
  151. 8:49the function of resilience, right?
  152. 8:52Understanding resilience as the
  153. 8:54capacity that people have to adapt and
  154. 8:58recover from painful situations,
  155. 9:00difficulties, problems, and difficult
  156. 9:03situations. I firmly believe that early
  157. 9:10childhood schools are resilient spaces
  158. 9:12because they help children and their
  159. 9:15families find a friendly space, often a
  160. 9:18place where they can recover from the
  161. 9:20difficult socio-environmental
  162. 9:22situations they experience. Let's delve
  163. 9:27a little deeper. Why do we say that
  164. 9:31early childhood schools are resilient
  165. 9:33spaces? First, because I understand
  166. 9:38that it is a space that offers support
  167. 9:41and security. There are more and more
  168. 9:47families, and I'm sure you experience
  169. 9:50it every day, who due to multiple
  170. 9:52circumstances find themselves in
  171. 9:54fragile and confusing situations,
  172. 9:57situations that directly impact the
  173. 9:59well-being of children. And as we have
  174. 10:06said, we know that these early years of
  175. 10:09development are crucial, and school can
  176. 10:12become a protective space for children.
  177. 10:16It does offer stability, bonds, and
  178. 10:21trust. And I have observed this many
  179. 10:25times, and I am sure you too, that it
  180. 10:28becomes a space of resilience for
  181. 10:31families. Those families that have
  182. 10:35recently arrived or those families that
  183. 10:38do not have a social or family support
  184. 10:40network, and that at school they find
  185. 10:43other families, other professionals
  186. 10:45with whom to share their doubts,
  187. 10:47anxieties, and even loneliness. But
  188. 10:56school is also a resilient space
  189. 10:58because it offers stability and
  190. 11:01predictability. At a time when schools
  191. 11:07often experience the effects of
  192. 11:13constant change, family mobility, and
  193. 11:16the uncertainty that often surrounds
  194. 11:20children's lives, school becomes a safe
  195. 11:24, clear, stable space that provides
  196. 11:27continuity. And an environment is
  197. 11:33stable when children know what to
  198. 11:35expect, they can anticipate what is
  199. 11:38going to happen and then they can focus
  200. 11:41their energy on exploring, learning and
  201. 11:45developing. This is why, as you know,
  202. 11:50it is so important to talk about
  203. 11:52routines and stable schedules in early
  204. 11:55childhood. Neuroscience studies have
  205. 11:59recently shown us that the uncertainty
  206. 12:03that children experience about whether
  207. 12:06their needs will be met or the sudden
  208. 12:09changes they experience in their
  209. 12:12environment, changes in their
  210. 12:15caregivers or changes in their family
  211. 12:18environment can generate chronic stress
  212. 12:21and affect functions such as attention,
  213. 12:25emotional regulation or learning.
  214. 12:33School is also a resilient space
  215. 12:36because it offers what I call temporary
  216. 12:40resilience. It is how we, at school,
  217. 12:46compensate for the time that is often
  218. 12:49stolen from children, right? This was a
  219. 12:52concept that Francesco Tonuche talked
  220. 12:54about a lot, right? About how we steal
  221. 12:57time from children to grow, to learn,
  222. 13:00right? So, schools must also protect
  223. 13:07children’s time, respecting their
  224. 13:10natural rhythms of growth and learning.
  225. 13:15It’s about giving them plenty of time
  226. 13:19and space to be, to exist, to grow,
  227. 13:22without trying to get ahead or
  228. 13:24overstimulate them. But at the same
  229. 13:32time, schools are resilient because
  230. 13:35they offer rich contexts for
  231. 13:37development. We often see schools
  232. 13:42compensate for the environmental
  233. 13:45deficits that children often encounter
  234. 13:49due to lack of stimulation and lack of
  235. 13:53support in their family environment for
  236. 13:57learning. So schools offer new
  237. 14:02opportunities for their development,
  238. 14:06new spaces, new materials, new
  239. 14:08proposals, new environments that expand
  240. 14:14on their environmental and family
  241. 14:16context. Therefore, we must offer them
  242. 14:22very rich environments, as much as we
  243. 14:25can, that promote play, exploration,
  244. 14:28and autonomy. That’s why in this
  245. 14:33second part I’m going to talk more in
  246. 14:37depth about these environments. How
  247. 14:41should these educational environments
  248. 14:44be that are rich for development and
  249. 14:46learning? from the perspective of
  250. 14:51well-being and learning, from my work
  251. 14:59in teacher training, initial training
  252. 15:02and continuing education, advising
  253. 15:05schools, advising teachers, right?,to
  254. 15:08improve their quality, right? I have
  255. 15:14seen that there is a topic that is
  256. 15:16fundamental and that I believe you have
  257. 15:18also worked on in other training
  258. 15:20courses, which is the reflection on the
  259. 15:22educational environments that we design
  260. 15:24. We know how a properly prepared
  261. 15:29environment ensures a large part of our
  262. 15:32work, right? They said in the Reyo
  263. 15:35Emilia schools that space is the third
  264. 15:37educator, right? Because it really
  265. 15:41supports and favors us in our teaching
  266. 15:43work. As early childhood educators, I
  267. 15:50believe that we have a commitment to
  268. 15:53think about what environments we design
  269. 15:56for children. And when I talk about
  270. 16:00environment, I mean the spaces, the
  271. 16:02resources and materials, and the
  272. 16:04proposals that we offer. All this that
  273. 16:09I am saying is not at all far from the
  274. 16:13title of your presentation that talks
  275. 16:16about the relationship between teaching
  276. 16:18and learning from emotion, because we
  277. 16:23also increasingly know from studies of
  278. 16:27psychology and neuroscience that in
  279. 16:30order to learn we need to unite the
  280. 16:32head with the heart and with
  281. 16:35relationships. We all know that if
  282. 16:41children are not well, if they have
  283. 16:44conflicts, if they are anxious, if they
  284. 16:48do not get to school well, if they have
  285. 16:52problems with their family, they cannot
  286. 16:55learn or focus. That is why this image
  287. 17:03combines head, heart, heart and
  288. 17:05relationship because we cannot separate
  289. 17:09them, they go together. I learn when
  290. 17:14something interests me, when it
  291. 17:16motivates me, when it provokes emotion
  292. 17:19or interest in me, when I want to get
  293. 17:21to know it, to know what it is like,
  294. 17:24and I learn with the other person, with
  295. 17:27others. Because we have adults who
  296. 17:31accompany us, who support us and who
  297. 17:33encourage me to explore and get to know
  298. 17:36the world. We know that without a bond,
  299. 17:42there is no learning. We know that
  300. 17:46education is much more than teaching.
  301. 17:52It is touching the heart to open the
  302. 17:54mind, because all learning is born from
  303. 17:57affection. There is no learning if we
  304. 18:02do not establish a good bond with
  305. 18:05children, because we know that the
  306. 18:08gateway is these bonds that we create,
  307. 18:11which give us the confidence needed to
  308. 18:14explore, make mistakes and try again.
  309. 18:18We also know that we learn when we feel
  310. 18:21safe, when someone believes in us, even
  311. 18:23before we are able to believe in
  312. 18:26ourselves as individuals. So I think
  313. 18:31that based on this idea that without a
  314. 18:36bond, without a relationship, there is
  315. 18:39no learning, we are now going to see a
  316. 18:44little bit about what the environments
  317. 18:47that we must ensure in order to
  318. 18:49generate this climate of well-being,
  319. 18:52affection and relationship should be
  320. 18:54like. We have said before that we must
  321. 19:00ensure that school is a protective
  322. 19:03space for children, a space where they
  323. 19:08learn to live and where children find
  324. 19:11overall well-being. That is why we talk
  325. 19:15about physical, emotional, cognitive
  326. 19:17and social well-being. A child cannot
  327. 19:23learn if they are not well-nourished,
  328. 19:26if they do not have good hygiene, if
  329. 19:28there is no space for movement, for
  330. 19:31rest; but also if, as we said before,
  331. 19:36there is no cognitive pleasure in
  332. 19:39learning, if there is no bond, if there
  333. 19:41are no relationships. So, I think that
  334. 19:46one of the first questions that we must
  335. 19:49ask ourselves, to ask ourselves, is: Do
  336. 19:52our schools, the environments that we
  337. 19:55generate, really favor the overall
  338. 19:58development of children? Or are there
  339. 20:02aspects that we prioritize? Sometimes
  340. 20:08we prioritize cognitive learning, but
  341. 20:10if we forget about emotional well-being
  342. 20:13, physical well-being, social
  343. 20:15well-being, learning will not be
  344. 20:17possible. Are you all following along?
  345. 20:24Yes, can you
  346. 20:27>> hear me? Yes, yes, everything is fine,
  347. 20:29everything is fine. Mari,
  348. 20:31>> yes, yes, of course.
  349. 20:32>> Okay, just to confirm. So, when we talk
  350. 20:40about global well-being, I understand
  351. 20:43that the entire school is a global
  352. 20:46environment where each setting invites
  353. 20:49you to live and learn. That's why we
  354. 20:54talk about a project. I call it a
  355. 20:56holistic project, a global project,
  356. 20:58like a big hologram, because that's
  357. 21:04what I understand: that each of the
  358. 21:06spaces are part of the children's
  359. 21:08well-being. The outdoor spaces, the
  360. 21:13laboratory spaces, the spaces of daily
  361. 21:15life where the children...I don't know
  362. 21:18if in your case, I don't know very well
  363. 21:20how you organize your daily life, right
  364. 21:23? I would like to know, but I don't
  365. 21:27know very well how you have your
  366. 21:29day-to-day life, how the group space
  367. 21:33and the objects and materials are
  368. 21:35organized. Each of these spaces is part
  369. 21:40of the school's day-to-day life and
  370. 21:43each of them must be carefully thought
  371. 21:46out. Starting with the entrance space.
  372. 21:54The entrance is the space where
  373. 21:56children arrive each day, along with
  374. 21:58their parents or grandparents, and the
  375. 22:00person who accompanies them in the
  376. 22:02morning. This should be a friendly,
  377. 22:08warm space that welcomes and makes me
  378. 22:14want to come in. Sometimes I visit
  379. 22:17schools where the entrance throws us
  380. 22:20off, invites us to leave rather than
  381. 22:23come in because they are bare, empty,
  382. 22:26and no one looks after them. I take
  383. 22:33charge of my classroom, of my own space
  384. 22:35, but who does the entrance belong to?
  385. 22:40Well, it belongs to the educational
  386. 22:42community and is a letter of
  387. 22:44introduction for all those who enter it
  388. 22:46. Without a doubt, the group space,
  389. 22:53where children spend most of their time
  390. 22:56, should be a space rich in
  391. 22:58possibilities, because it is clearly a
  392. 23:00space that welcomes the group, that
  393. 23:03welcomes the diversity of the children
  394. 23:06and that should have rich proposals in
  395. 23:08it. This is precisely a space in a 2-
  396. 23:12year-old classroom. It was very poorly
  397. 23:16organized. It was a small classroom,
  398. 23:20very small, but we also worked with
  399. 23:23university internship students and so,
  400. 23:26uh, we did a complete renovation,
  401. 23:28rethinking how, with few resources,
  402. 23:31because we had very few economic
  403. 23:34resources, we could improve the spaces
  404. 23:37in each classroom. But also the
  405. 23:43hallways. This is another intervention
  406. 23:45we did in another school. Here I live
  407. 23:49in Mallorca, in Palma de Mallorca. So,
  408. 23:52it was a highly complex school, with
  409. 23:54great cultural diversity. We saw that
  410. 23:58the children needed a methodological
  411. 24:00transformation and that also involved a
  412. 24:02transformation of the spaces. And so we
  413. 24:06began to see which spaces could also be
  414. 24:09used as play and activity areas. And
  415. 24:13the hallways were converted into
  416. 24:15activity areas, also into library areas
  417. 24:20for the older children with recovered
  418. 24:22furniture that the parents brought us
  419. 24:25or that we went to get or the teachers
  420. 24:27brought. We organized a library in the
  421. 24:31hallways, or the space where they eat
  422. 24:41or have snacks. Every moment, every
  423. 24:46space is part of children's daily lives
  424. 24:51and is part of their well-being and
  425. 24:54learning. That's why I say it should be
  426. 24:57a global project. We don't just think
  427. 25:01about the classroom space, the group
  428. 25:04space, but we think about the school as
  429. 25:06a complex of spaces and areas, and each
  430. 25:09one of them is important because
  431. 25:11children learn when they have a snack,
  432. 25:13when they go out to the garden, when
  433. 25:16they wash their hands, when they walk
  434. 25:19down the hallways. As early childhood
  435. 25:38educators, we know that each
  436. 25:41developmental stage is different, and
  437. 25:44this is especially evident at these
  438. 25:47early ages. So, each stage requires the
  439. 25:52deployment of different environmental
  440. 25:55conditions, resources, proposals, and
  441. 25:57experiences, according to the
  442. 26:00developmental stage and their needs.
  443. 26:07Let's see what these educational
  444. 26:08environments suggest to us. Here we see
  445. 26:14situations carefully prepared by the
  446. 26:17educators. I say educators because here
  447. 26:21we have especially early childhood
  448. 26:24educators. This is a very feminized
  449. 26:28role where boys and girls explore their
  450. 26:31surroundings with curiosity. We see
  451. 26:35children, as you can see in these
  452. 26:37images, who are attentive and focused.
  453. 26:41Because they have a desire and
  454. 26:42motivation to explore. They learn how
  455. 26:46materials behave with clay. Others are
  456. 26:53playing board games. Here, the children
  457. 26:58at these sensory tables are learning
  458. 27:01about how the materials behave. What
  459. 27:05happens when I drop grain or flour? Or
  460. 27:11corn through the sieve or funnel. The
  461. 27:18precision of the children's hand
  462. 27:20gestures. We see sustained,
  463. 27:24concentrated attention. We can say that
  464. 27:28there is experience and learning
  465. 27:31because they have found a sufficiently
  466. 27:33prepared environment. I think this idea
  467. 27:40is strong, important, and powerful.
  468. 27:44Only if they find the right
  469. 27:46environmental conditions will children
  470. 27:49be able to develop all their skills. So
  471. 27:55that is our job as teachers to prepare
  472. 28:01these environments, these areas, these
  473. 28:04spaces. We need flexible spaces that
  474. 28:09adapt to the diversity of development
  475. 28:12rates. That is why I say that our
  476. 28:17educational task is very complex
  477. 28:19because it involves carefully observing
  478. 28:22what children need at all times. As
  479. 28:27Bigowski said, we must adapt the
  480. 28:30environment to children's proximal
  481. 28:32development zones. We must offer
  482. 28:37situations that help children take a
  483. 28:38step further. What they already know or
  484. 28:45know how to do. Another challenge. For
  485. 28:51this reason, we know that designing
  486. 28:53proposals for children aged two, three,
  487. 28:56four, six or eight is completely
  488. 28:58different and we must adapt to each
  489. 29:01stage of the children's development and
  490. 29:04maturation. Another fundamental
  491. 29:12characteristic, especially when we link
  492. 29:15environments with children's learning
  493. 29:17and emotional well-being, is the issue
  494. 29:23of safety and predictability that we
  495. 29:25mentioned earlier. A chaotic
  496. 29:28environment without organization, where
  497. 29:34the proposals and educational
  498. 29:37intentions are not clear, children get
  499. 29:41lost there. There is dispersion, no
  500. 29:46orientation. That is why we need to
  501. 29:51create separate areas where there is
  502. 29:55order and the child can situate
  503. 29:57themselves in the space and know what
  504. 30:02they can find in each of the areas. In
  505. 30:07one area they can find blocks to build,
  506. 30:11they can find paints, they can find the
  507. 30:17corner of the house, they can find
  508. 30:20board games and where each area is
  509. 30:29carefully ordered and delimited.
  510. 30:35Sometimes I go into schools where there
  511. 30:38is terrible chaos, but there is no
  512. 30:41order. The materials are all mixed up,
  513. 30:45they are not classified, they are not
  514. 30:48organized by areas. So there it is very
  515. 30:52difficult for children to focus their
  516. 30:54attention and learn. Here we see
  517. 30:59another image of a school organized
  518. 31:01into different zones. And there is a
  519. 31:09topic that I also think is important:
  520. 31:12just as we delimit the zones, we
  521. 31:14organize the space so that children
  522. 31:17feel safe in the space and can know how
  523. 31:20to move around in it and what is in
  524. 31:23each of the zones, it is also important
  525. 31:26to limit the materials, to find the
  526. 31:29right limit. Sometimes we think that by
  527. 31:33offering a large number of objects, of
  528. 31:36materials to children, they will learn
  529. 31:38more and better. I do not think that is
  530. 31:42the case. I believe that we must learn
  531. 31:45to diversify the proposals and
  532. 31:48materials that we offer, to select them
  533. 31:51appropriately, but to limit the number
  534. 31:54of materials that we offer. Because in
  535. 31:59this way, children, in this limitation
  536. 32:02of objects and materials, learn to look
  537. 32:06for combinations between them,
  538. 32:09connections, and help them think of new
  539. 32:12possibilities. What else can I do with
  540. 32:16these objects? In what different ways
  541. 32:19can I relate them? I think that those
  542. 32:23of you who are working with younger
  543. 32:24children, I don't know if you've heard
  544. 32:26of the uristic game, right? By Eleonor
  545. 32:29Goldsmi, but she also works a bit along
  546. 32:31these lines, right? It's a very simple
  547. 32:38proposal, but very rich at the same
  548. 32:40time. Therefore, limiting, narrowing
  549. 32:47down the materials that we present is
  550. 32:50also difficult, uh, working with
  551. 32:55teachers, sometimes we have a hard time
  552. 32:57selecting because we would offer
  553. 32:59everything, right? No, no, no, it's not
  554. 33:02necessary to offer everything, but to
  555. 33:04select carefully what we offer. But at
  556. 33:10the same time that we talk about safe
  557. 33:13and predictable environments, we're
  558. 33:15talking about vibrant and suggestive
  559. 33:17environments, environments that
  560. 33:19motivate learning. Piayet, who I'm sure
  561. 33:27you've heard of, was referring to
  562. 33:30epistemic curiosity, that innate need
  563. 33:33that children have to know and
  564. 33:35understand the world. In this sense,
  565. 33:40it's essential to ask ourselves what
  566. 33:43environments we design to awaken
  567. 33:46children's curiosity and foster their
  568. 33:49desire to search, experiment, and
  569. 33:52manipulate. The way in which we present
  570. 34:05the proposals, how we combine the
  571. 34:08materials, conveys a specific
  572. 34:12pedagogical intention. Here we see
  573. 34:20environments that excite, that
  574. 34:23encourage searching, thinking and
  575. 34:26reflection. We can see this girl
  576. 34:30focused on her observation, attentive
  577. 34:32to this collection of insects. And this
  578. 34:40other girl who tries to pass the tube,
  579. 34:43seeing which tube would correspond to
  580. 34:47each of the holes in this panel that
  581. 34:50the teacher has offered, trying, making
  582. 34:53mistakes and the others attentively
  583. 34:57watching the discovery that she is
  584. 35:00making. We are in this area of
  585. 35:07constructions with poor materials, with
  586. 35:11materials that we have recovered. Like
  587. 35:18children, they create houses, invent
  588. 35:23cities, create enclosures, invent
  589. 35:29scenarios with these plastic cups.
  590. 35:37These children are trying to make the
  591. 35:39highest tower. One of them says, "We
  592. 35:43will reach the roof." I don't think so,
  593. 35:48we don't have enough cups for it, but
  594. 35:50it's a shared task, it's a
  595. 35:52collaborative task, or these two
  596. 36:00children who are playing with the
  597. 36:03shadows and the light that the colored
  598. 36:07water bottles give off, and they do it
  599. 36:10for a long time, watching their hands
  600. 36:13transform into colors. Or this proposal
  601. 36:23that I found so beautiful when I saw it
  602. 36:26, so simple and so pretty, where the
  603. 36:28children have learned about beetles,
  604. 36:31symmetries, putting the halves together
  605. 36:34, but sometimes I saw children putting
  606. 36:37two different halves together and
  607. 36:39inventing a new beetle. I found a new
  608. 36:43one and they invented the name of the
  609. 36:46new beetle, and they also admired the
  610. 36:49beauty of the shapes and colors of
  611. 36:53these little insects. Or these
  612. 36:59exploration tables, where children
  613. 37:04experience the sensoriality of sand,
  614. 37:08grain, rice, flour, they explore fall,
  615. 37:12volume and, of course, talking about
  616. 37:21environments for well-being,
  617. 37:23environments that help work on the
  618. 37:26overall well-being of children. We
  619. 37:29can't stop talking about play and
  620. 37:31creativity. This is not a presentation
  621. 37:36about play, but we already know the
  622. 37:39relationships between play and learning
  623. 37:41, play and creativity, play and
  624. 37:44well-being, play and socialization,
  625. 37:46play and language, play and thought.
  626. 37:51And here is an important call to
  627. 37:53respect free play time, which we know
  628. 37:56protects children's mental and physical
  629. 37:59health. Freebel used to say, uh,
  630. 38:02Freebel would say, that a child who
  631. 38:04does not play is sick. All the great
  632. 38:09teachers of early childhood pedagogy,
  633. 38:12Montessori, the Agachi sisters, Freinet
  634. 38:15, Tecrolí, all of them have insisted
  635. 38:18on the fundamental role of free play
  636. 38:21for well-being and development. We must
  637. 38:26promote the right to play. In this
  638. 38:29regard, I recently read a book by
  639. 38:32Beatriz Trueva that talks about
  640. 38:34revealed play and in which she collects
  641. 38:36recent research on the importance of
  642. 38:39play as a protector of children's
  643. 38:41mental health. These are investigations
  644. 38:46that have analyzed children in zones of
  645. 38:49armed conflict, for example, within
  646. 38:51refugee camps, and we see them quite
  647. 38:54often, don't we? We see them on
  648. 38:57television, on the news, right? That
  649. 39:00even in refugee camps where children
  650. 39:04live in miserable conditions, they find
  651. 39:08materials for play and find joy in play
  652. 39:12. That's why we need nursery schools
  653. 39:18that provide long periods of time to
  654. 39:20play. I insist on this: we must promote
  655. 39:24play in schools, but we don't need
  656. 39:31large materials to play with poor
  657. 39:33materials. We know that children with
  658. 39:39very little play with mud, stones, wood
  659. 39:42, and become great play laboratories.
  660. 39:52And of course, let's not even talk
  661. 39:55about role-playing, symbolic play,
  662. 39:58right? Which helps represent situations
  663. 40:02from daily life, like this warehouse
  664. 40:06that they have set up at school, where
  665. 40:10children learn to classify, to sort, to
  666. 40:14organize, they learn about coins, the
  667. 40:17value of money, to count, to add, to
  668. 40:23play as a saleswoman, a vendor, or the
  669. 40:27mother who goes shopping. That really
  670. 40:35is...if we have observed children
  671. 40:37playing, we see the amount of implicit
  672. 40:40learning that exists in this moment of
  673. 40:42play, right? How they learn to decide
  674. 40:45and organize themselves. Now I'm the
  675. 40:48salesperson, you're the mom, right? I'm
  676. 42:07the one who's...Talking about
  677. 42:24aesthetics and beauty in schools is an
  678. 42:26educational position, it is, I would
  679. 42:28say, an ethical position. Because when
  680. 42:33schools vibrate aesthetically, so do
  681. 42:36the children, the teachers, and all the
  682. 42:38life that unfolds in them, because
  683. 42:41aesthetics are seductive, fostering
  684. 42:43attention, concentration, and complex
  685. 42:46thinking. Take a look at this proposal
  686. 42:51that a teacher made with children aged
  687. 42:532 and 3, using only lemons and mint. I
  688. 42:59don't know if you call it a good mint
  689. 43:01that also smells like mint, right? Well
  690. 43:06, this proposal eventually transformed
  691. 43:09into a space for sensoriality at every
  692. 43:12single level. The children touched,
  693. 43:16squeezed, smelled, and tasted them. It
  694. 43:21was not a very nice moment to watch.
  695. 43:25They also spent long periods exploring
  696. 43:28the lemons, mixing them with mint,
  697. 43:31tasting them, but because this way of
  698. 43:37presenting them helped, invited them to
  699. 43:41touch, to be there. There were children
  700. 43:44who, when they saw this presentation,
  701. 43:46did not even dare to touch the lemons
  702. 43:47because it was so beautifully arranged
  703. 43:49that they said, "Oh, it seems like we
  704. 43:51are going to ruin it, right?" They said
  705. 43:53, "No, it's not for touching, for
  706. 43:55testing, for them to see what they can
  707. 43:58do with it all. Or this other proposal
  708. 44:09or this other proposal where children
  709. 44:14find this large mass of flour dyed in
  710. 44:19colors where they have also been
  711. 44:23allowed to experiment, touch or this
  712. 44:30other proposal. I'm showing them some
  713. 44:34images of proposals that seem to me to
  714. 44:37be carefully prepared from an aesthetic
  715. 44:41and sensory point of view. As we have
  716. 44:49said, an attractive environment reduces
  717. 44:52mental fatigue, captures attention and
  718. 44:54increases motivation. We also see other
  719. 44:59proposals that are very carefully
  720. 45:00designed. Ana tells me that I have to
  721. 45:06be careful with time. Ana, I'm being
  722. 45:08careful with time. Let's see, I have
  723. 45:10time for everything. I don't think that
  724. 45:16designing aesthetic, careful, sensitive
  725. 45:20environments is betting on a more
  726. 45:23humane, sensitive education that is
  727. 45:26connected to the context and culture.
  728. 45:32To finish this second section, I also
  729. 45:36wanted to talk about how this
  730. 45:40sensitivity and aesthetics also refers
  731. 45:44to taking care of every single detail.
  732. 45:52Excuse me, I've forgotten every detail
  733. 45:58here. Every moment, every gesture we
  734. 46:05make at school should have an
  735. 46:07educational value, as as we said before
  736. 46:09. In this sense, here we see some
  737. 46:16cushions carefully prepared for the
  738. 46:22meeting with the group, because every
  739. 46:34little gesture, every little detail,
  740. 46:38like this one, preparing the papers,
  741. 46:41the paints, to draw the bouquet. This
  742. 46:44is a small branch of almond tree. Here
  743. 46:46we have some beautiful almond trees in
  744. 46:48bloom in Mallorca in the month of
  745. 46:50February, March that a child brought
  746. 46:52and the teacher has made, has
  747. 46:54improvised a proposal, but has placed
  748. 46:56it with great detail, with great
  749. 46:58attention. Or how to place the books so
  750. 47:02that they are attractive and so that
  751. 47:04they invite people to pick them up and
  752. 47:06read them. How do we celebrate the
  753. 47:12simple and the everyday? What is it
  754. 47:18like to eat? Or what is it like to wash
  755. 47:24your hands? Look here at some
  756. 47:27photographs that have been hung, that
  757. 47:29have been put in the bathroom, make the
  758. 47:32moment of washing your hands, the
  759. 47:34experience much more than washing your
  760. 47:37hands. It is talking with your partner
  761. 47:41and seeing which of these images
  762. 47:44correspond to your hands or observing
  763. 47:50how the gesture of washing your hands
  764. 47:53is. It gives you something to talk
  765. 47:57about, to observe, to share, not just
  766. 48:00for washing hands. And finally, to
  767. 48:05finish this last section, I think it is
  768. 48:08important to mention that environments
  769. 48:10make the quality of the relationships
  770. 48:13that are established in them possible.
  771. 48:17It is important to have spaces for
  772. 48:22group meetings that allow for talking,
  773. 48:28listening calmly, sharing a story,
  774. 48:30singing a song, thinking together,
  775. 48:37reflecting together, or spaces for a
  776. 48:40small group focused on collaborative
  777. 48:44work, where you can be close by sharing
  778. 48:54a story. Areas that allow work with
  779. 48:58four or five children in a large group,
  780. 49:01small group, or medium group. And now I
  781. 49:08wanted to move on to this third part,
  782. 49:10which is the role of the teacher as a
  783. 49:13sensitive companion to children's
  784. 49:15development and learning. Up until now,
  785. 49:19we have talked about the conditions
  786. 49:22that the environment must have to
  787. 49:24generate a climate of well-being and
  788. 49:27foster emotional life in school. But
  789. 49:31space alone is certainly not enough. We
  790. 49:37need professionals, teachers who are
  791. 49:40the key piece in the school, and that
  792. 49:43is all of you. We need to think
  793. 49:50carefully about our teaching work. What
  794. 49:54educational attitudes should we show?
  795. 49:58How do we reflect on the way we are
  796. 50:00with children? Well, I say that it is a
  797. 50:05exercise in permanent self-observation,
  798. 50:08observing ourselves to see how we are,
  799. 50:10what we do, how we accompany children.
  800. 50:16Pediatrician Emy Pickler, whom you may
  801. 50:18have read, used to say that we must
  802. 50:21professionalize our educational
  803. 50:23gestures, we must be attentive to how
  804. 50:29we relate to children, showing them our
  805. 50:33respect and trust. And I like to talk
  806. 50:37about the ethics of care. Why talk
  807. 50:40about an ethics of care in school?
  808. 50:43Because I believe that having a good
  809. 50:46life includes learning to care and to
  810. 50:49be cared for. We must build bonds of
  811. 50:54trust at school and learn to live in
  812. 50:57communities that are sensitive to care,
  813. 50:59to the needs of others. Today, more
  814. 51:05than ever, where individualism prevails
  815. 51:07, we need to recover the value of
  816. 51:09caring and being cared for. And without
  817. 51:14a doubt, infant school, early childhood
  818. 51:16school is a privileged place to learn
  819. 51:17this. I would say that learning to care
  820. 51:23is an art form. It is not easy to
  821. 51:26accompany children well, to listen well
  822. 51:29, to attend with tenderness, to
  823. 51:32accompany with sensitivity. I also like
  824. 51:38this idea of the philosopher Manen who
  825. 51:40talks about pedagogical tact, right?
  826. 51:44Because caring and accompanying are for
  827. 51:47that. Sensitivity and tact are needed.
  828. 51:53We were saying it's like an art form,
  829. 51:54right? And tact works through the word,
  830. 51:59through silence, through the gaze,
  831. 52:02through gesture, through example, and
  832. 52:05through the environment. We'll look at
  833. 52:12some images and we can discuss them a
  834. 52:14bit more. But I think I really liked
  835. 52:20Alfredo Yuelos 'idea of being present
  836. 52:23and giving presence when I read it,
  837. 52:27right? Because it's true that we can be
  838. 52:30present with children, but still be
  839. 52:32very far away from them, thinking about
  840. 52:34other things, worrying about other
  841. 52:36things. And children ask us for an
  842. 52:42active presence, for active listening.
  843. 52:46But how can we give a quality presence?
  844. 52:51Alfredo Yuelos responds from the right
  845. 52:54distance and closeness and says," I've
  846. 52:58seen how every inch counts when it
  847. 53:01comes to investigating how to be with
  848. 53:04each boy and girl, up close or far away
  849. 53:08at all times, close enough and far
  850. 53:11enough away, from an open, closed,
  851. 53:16semi-open, or semi-closed body posture,
  852. 53:19and one that is capable of containing
  853. 53:21without always touching the children's
  854. 53:24bodies. I think it's a very nice idea,
  855. 53:27don't you think? How can we be with
  856. 53:30children, taking care of this proximity
  857. 53:33, this closeness without invading their
  858. 53:35space, respecting their space? In these
  859. 53:41images we see educators, all of them
  860. 53:44are respectful and observant educators,
  861. 53:48who wait patiently, who know how to be
  862. 53:53close or far away, depending on the
  863. 53:56situation or the moment, who know how
  864. 54:01to share discoveries and games. Look
  865. 54:11how beautiful this dance of proximity
  866. 54:14is, the educator sharpening the pencil
  867. 54:17of this girl who watches attentively
  868. 54:19how to sharpen a pencil. Or this
  869. 54:24educator who is noticing what the
  870. 54:27children say while they are drawing. Or
  871. 54:33this other one, which I think is a
  872. 54:36delightful sequence: as the educator
  873. 54:39waits for the child to take off his
  874. 54:41sock, she waits patiently, but notice
  875. 54:44her open hands as if to say: "My hands
  876. 54:47are helping you from a distance, but I
  877. 54:50know that you can do it alone." And
  878. 54:57this last sequence, which I also think
  879. 55:00is delightful: this girl has started to
  880. 55:03build with the plastic cups and the
  881. 55:06educator, with her fingers, is helping
  882. 55:09to keep the tower from falling, but we
  883. 55:12build the tower together. But in this
  884. 55:18image, she observes, observes
  885. 55:20delicately, how the girl is placing the
  886. 55:23cups. Notice the gaze connected to the
  887. 55:27girl's action. It's like I support you
  888. 55:31with my gaze, I support you with my
  889. 55:33gesture, I support you from a distance.
  890. 55:37No words are necessary, there's no need
  891. 55:38for proximity. And how she shares the
  892. 55:44joy of the tower being built or the
  893. 55:49tower being collapsed. We know that
  894. 55:57when a child is cared for with care,
  895. 56:00respect, and affection, they
  896. 56:02internalize these values and also
  897. 56:04reproduce them in their future
  898. 56:06relationships, right? That's why this
  899. 56:09pedagogical tact, this ethic of care,
  900. 56:12is so important, because these are
  901. 56:14values that will be imbued in the
  902. 56:20experience and learning of children.
  903. 56:24And now to finish, I think Ana, I'm
  904. 56:26going back in time, right? I hope she's
  905. 56:28going back in time. Oh, just to review
  906. 56:32a few of the topics we've talked about,
  907. 56:34right? And we've talked about the role
  908. 56:39of school, of early childhood as a
  909. 56:41protective, safe, and resilient space
  910. 56:44that offers new opportunities to
  911. 56:46children. We've talked about how
  912. 56:49without emotion and connection, there
  913. 56:51can be no learning. We have discussed
  914. 56:54how the child's overall well-being must
  915. 56:57be taken care of through the design and
  916. 57:00organization of each space and
  917. 57:03environment. We have discussed how the
  918. 57:07furniture must be safe and predictable,
  919. 57:11tidy, and must set limits, but at the
  920. 57:14same time they must be motivating,
  921. 57:16suggestive, pose challenges, and
  922. 57:19motivate learning. We have discussed
  923. 57:23how environments must adapt to the
  924. 57:25developmental stage and to the needs
  925. 57:27and rhythms of the children. We have
  926. 57:31discussed how we must take care of
  927. 57:33aesthetics and small everyday gestures.
  928. 57:38And finally, we have discussed
  929. 57:39professional attitudes. And what does
  930. 57:43it mean to educate through pedagogical
  931. 57:45contact? What does it mean to educate
  932. 57:48through gaze, through silence, through
  933. 57:50words, through gestures, and from a
  934. 57:52distance? And finally, I'll leave you
  935. 58:00with this quote from my friend Alfredo
  936. 58:03Yuelos, which I think is very good, and
  937. 58:06which reflects very well the
  938. 58:08professional challenges we have as
  939. 58:10early childhood educators. He says: "
  940. 58:14Being an early childhood teacher is a
  941. 58:16difficult profession, full of
  942. 58:18challenges, a job that is not done and
  943. 58:21that must be reinvented every day,
  944. 58:23without taking anything for granted."
  945. 58:26And I think that what they are doing is
  946. 58:29truly wonderful work. It is work that
  947. 58:33involves reinventing ourselves not only
  948. 58:35as professionals, but also on a
  949. 58:37personal level. School also transforms
  950. 58:40us as people, both as children and as
  951. 58:43teachers who work there, right? And
  952. 58:47I'll leave you with some bibliography
  953. 58:49that I can provide you with in more
  954. 58:51detail if you wish. I appreciate your
  955. 58:58listening and I am at your disposal to
  956. 59:01share my thoughts in this little time
  957. 59:04that we have left. Well, it has been a
  958. 59:07pleasure to connect with you from so
  959. 59:09far away.
  960. 59:12>> Thank you very much, María Antonia.
  961. 59:17This has really been a very well-placed
  962. 59:21presentation, and it also provides
  963. 59:25guidance in all the contexts that we
  964. 59:29need to take into account as early
  965. 59:32childhood teachers, and above all, it
  966. 59:36is very relevant to learning and
  967. 59:40teaching from emotion. Thank you very
  968. 59:44much. We are waiting for the questions,
  969. 59:49we already have some, and well, for
  970. 59:52example, from the central area we have
  971. 59:56received some questions like the
  972. 59:59following one that I am going to ask
  973. 1:00:02you. What should we look for? What
  974. 1:00:10indicators show that my teaching method
  975. 1:00:13is connecting emotionally with the
  976. 1:00:16children? That would be a question.
  977. 1:00:25>> Okay.
  978. 1:00:29>> How do I know
  979. 1:00:32>> that I am doing it right?
  980. 1:00:34>> How do I know that I am doing it right?
  981. 1:00:38Ah, we surely know if we are doing it
  982. 1:00:43right when there is an atmosphere of
  983. 1:00:47well-being in the group. When we see
  984. 1:00:51that the children are autonomous, when
  985. 1:00:54we see that the children are interested
  986. 1:00:59in approaching the proposals that we
  987. 1:01:01make. When the children ask us
  988. 1:01:06questions, are interested, when they
  989. 1:01:09share their learning, I believe that it
  990. 1:01:12is the children who give us the measure
  991. 1:01:15of whether we are doing it well. When
  992. 1:01:20we see children who are excessively
  993. 1:01:22dependent on adults, who do not explore
  994. 1:01:28unless the teacher is nearby, who do
  995. 1:01:34not dare to try new experiences, it is
  996. 1:01:38probably because we have developed an
  997. 1:01:42excess of dependency. Emy Picler spoke
  998. 1:01:46about this balance between dependency
  999. 1:01:48and autonomy. I think it is very
  1000. 1:01:50important. I have had students in
  1001. 1:01:53nursery schools who were doing
  1002. 1:01:56internships and who loved to pick up
  1003. 1:01:59children and hold them close. And I
  1004. 1:02:04said, "No, no, no, not because we are
  1005. 1:02:07physically closer, we are emotionally
  1006. 1:02:10closer and sometimes we are preventing
  1007. 1:02:13them from going out to explore, to
  1008. 1:02:16discover. It's not like this mother we
  1009. 1:02:21have, like this baby or this child who
  1010. 1:02:23is starting to crawl, whose mother is
  1011. 1:02:25cooking in the kitchen and doesn't
  1012. 1:02:27leave the kitchen. So, I know, I'm
  1013. 1:02:31going to explore what's in the other
  1014. 1:02:34rooms and I come back to the kitchen. I
  1015. 1:02:39go to the safe harbor, the safe base. I
  1016. 1:02:42know it's there, I can go back, right?
  1017. 1:02:45But when I lose sight of my mother,
  1018. 1:02:47when I lose sight of the teacher, then
  1019. 1:02:50I become insecure and when I'm insecure
  1020. 1:02:53, I don't explore, I don't learn. So, I
  1021. 1:02:58don't know if it helps much, but I
  1022. 1:03:01think a first indicator is to see the
  1023. 1:03:04autonomy of the children, how they
  1024. 1:03:06explore, how they play, how they learn,
  1025. 1:03:09without the teacher needing to be so
  1026. 1:03:12close to them.
  1027. 1:03:16>> Another question from the paracentral
  1028. 1:03:18area, María Antonia.
  1029. 1:03:20>> Yes. Uh, so that we have more time, if
  1030. 1:03:24we can, uh, be a little bit more
  1031. 1:03:28Briefly, but without losing all your, I
  1032. 1:03:31mean, all the wisdom that you can share
  1033. 1:03:35with us. Ana,
  1034. 1:03:39>> how can we address a child's emotion
  1035. 1:03:41when there is a hostile environment in
  1036. 1:03:44their family and emotions are stunted
  1037. 1:03:47for learning?
  1038. 1:03:52>> Yes. That's why I've insisted so much
  1039. 1:03:55on school as a space for resilience, as
  1040. 1:03:58a protective and safe space, because we
  1041. 1:04:01see many children who come with many
  1042. 1:04:04emotional conflicts and as we said, a
  1043. 1:04:07child who is ill cannot learn.
  1044. 1:04:11Therefore, the first thing we must do
  1045. 1:04:14is give them security, to be able to
  1046. 1:04:18contain this emotion, this emotion of
  1047. 1:04:21sadness, of anger, of helplessness that
  1048. 1:04:25this child may have. If we don't
  1049. 1:04:28contain their emotion, if we don't
  1050. 1:04:29listen to them, this child will not be
  1051. 1:04:33able to learn. So, I think our first
  1052. 1:04:36function is to be attentive to emotions
  1053. 1:04:39, to be attentive to the emotional
  1054. 1:04:42well-being of children, right? That's
  1055. 1:04:46why I believe that school really is a
  1056. 1:04:49bubble. It is a bubble. It should be a
  1057. 1:04:52bubble of well-being, of emotional
  1058. 1:04:55containment and security. I think that
  1059. 1:05:00some areas, no, some schools have not
  1060. 1:05:02been able to listen. The question that
  1061. 1:05:04Maria has just answered right now.
  1062. 1:05:07Antonia was asking how to address a
  1063. 1:05:09child's emotions when there is a
  1064. 1:05:12complicated and hostile family
  1065. 1:05:14environment that really limits learning
  1066. 1:05:17. Now I'm going to ask a question from
  1067. 1:05:21the eastern region. How do I balance
  1068. 1:05:27play and emotion with rules and
  1069. 1:05:29learning in early childhood? As we've
  1070. 1:05:41discussed, we've also talked about
  1071. 1:05:44environments that must contain and
  1072. 1:05:47provide security, and to do so, they
  1073. 1:05:50must also be environments that limit,
  1074. 1:05:53right? We were talking about
  1075. 1:05:57limitations in terms of materials,
  1076. 1:06:00spaces, limiting areas, but rules are
  1077. 1:06:04also a way of setting boundaries. Yes,
  1078. 1:06:09there are things we can do and things
  1079. 1:06:12we can't do. There are materials that
  1080. 1:06:16we can use now and materials that we
  1081. 1:06:18can't use. Yes, establishing a context
  1082. 1:06:25where the rules and limits are clear is
  1083. 1:06:29also a protective space for children.
  1084. 1:06:35We shouldn't be afraid to set rules and
  1085. 1:06:37limits that children themselves
  1086. 1:06:39understand perfectly. We can't live in
  1087. 1:06:43a community if there aren't clearly
  1088. 1:06:45established rules. So, play can
  1089. 1:06:49perfectly take place, free play can
  1090. 1:06:51happen, but there are clear rules; I do
  1091. 1:06:54not believe that one thing is at odds
  1092. 1:06:57with the other. Another one.
  1093. 1:07:00>> Uh, from the western area it would be,
  1094. 1:07:04uh, the question is, how can I organize
  1095. 1:07:08the classroom? A 20 m² classroom with
  1096. 1:07:1435 children. uh, and how can I organize
  1097. 1:07:21it so that, uh, the development and
  1098. 1:07:24learning processes, uh, well, can take
  1099. 1:07:28place in more effective environments.
  1100. 1:07:33In other words, how can I distribute
  1101. 1:07:35that classroom into development and
  1102. 1:07:38learning areas? Hm. Taking into account
  1103. 1:07:42the limitations of space and the high
  1104. 1:07:45number of children in the classroom.
  1105. 1:07:49>> What would you suggest?
  1106. 1:07:51>> Yes, it really is a difficult challenge
  1107. 1:07:55. It is a very small space for so many
  1108. 1:07:58children, right? Here I remember that
  1109. 1:08:01they talked about 1.5 meters per child
  1110. 1:08:04in the classroom, right? So, of course,
  1111. 1:08:07this space should have at least double
  1112. 1:08:10the meters, but sometimes we have what
  1113. 1:08:13we have, right? And so we must learn
  1114. 1:08:16how to work with that which we already
  1115. 1:08:18have. And the first suggestion I would
  1116. 1:08:22make is to say, we can open the
  1117. 1:08:24classroom to other spaces, we can have
  1118. 1:08:27other spaces that are, as we have seen,
  1119. 1:08:30right? A corridor that is close to the
  1120. 1:08:32classroom. or you can connect the
  1121. 1:08:35classroom with the outside space. We
  1122. 1:08:38can open play areas, activity areas in
  1123. 1:08:40other spaces that are not just the
  1124. 1:08:43classroom. This would be the first
  1125. 1:08:46thing I would try to propose, right? It
  1126. 1:08:50is true that working with so many
  1127. 1:08:52children in a small space does not give
  1128. 1:08:55us the possibility to create many play
  1129. 1:08:57and activity areas in this space. Yes.
  1130. 1:09:01That is why we should see how we can
  1131. 1:09:05expand these to these 20 m², give it
  1132. 1:09:09an exit to the outside if possible,
  1133. 1:09:12right? Because it is also true that 35
  1134. 1:09:17children are a lot of children, but if
  1135. 1:09:20they are well organized, if the areas
  1136. 1:09:22include interesting and rich proposals,
  1137. 1:09:25it is much easier to attend to the
  1138. 1:09:28children individually and have quality
  1139. 1:09:31attention as teachers than if the
  1140. 1:09:33children do the same task at the same
  1141. 1:09:36time. Uh, another question from the
  1142. 1:09:43central area, María Antonia, the
  1143. 1:09:48question is, how do positive and
  1144. 1:09:50negative emotions influence the ability
  1145. 1:09:53of an early childhood child to learn?
  1146. 1:09:59They absolutely influence. They
  1147. 1:10:02absolutely influence, it is the basis,
  1148. 1:10:04right? That is why I have insisted so
  1149. 1:10:07much on the subject of connecting, of
  1150. 1:10:10creating positive bonds with children.
  1151. 1:10:13In other words, a A teacher who does
  1152. 1:10:16not connect with the children in the
  1153. 1:10:22group is unlikely to be a good teacher.
  1154. 1:10:27The first thing we must ensure is that
  1155. 1:10:30there is a good bond, and that bond
  1156. 1:10:33involves that pedagogical tact that we
  1157. 1:10:35mentioned earlier, learning to listen,
  1158. 1:10:38learning to speak, learning to look,
  1159. 1:10:41right? But obviously, they influence
  1160. 1:10:46the children, right? That is why the
  1161. 1:10:50teacher's attitude is so important.
  1162. 1:10:52Professional attitudes are very
  1163. 1:10:54important, right? Ah. Sometimes, I come
  1164. 1:10:57across a teacher who says," Well, it
  1165. 1:10:59works well for me to do it this way. "
  1166. 1:11:01And I believe that teaching must be
  1167. 1:11:04professionalized. And professionalizing
  1168. 1:11:09teaching also means, right?,
  1169. 1:11:11professionalizing the way we approach
  1170. 1:11:13children, how we talk to them, how we
  1171. 1:11:16listen to them, how we engage with them
  1172. 1:11:18, right? As Malaguchi said, which I
  1173. 1:11:24loved, he says," Nature is sap, it has
  1174. 1:11:27given us two ears and two eyes, but
  1175. 1:11:29only one mouth. But teachers do it the
  1176. 1:11:33other way around, we talk much more
  1177. 1:11:35than we listen and look. Well, I
  1178. 1:11:39believe that changing teachers'
  1179. 1:11:41attitudes towards listening and
  1180. 1:11:43observation is important. It seems to
  1181. 1:11:46me that listening and observation
  1182. 1:11:48should be at the center of teacher
  1183. 1:11:51training so that they can then
  1184. 1:11:53carefully and lovingly care for
  1185. 1:11:55children. Another question would be,
  1186. 1:12:03what strategies do you recommend
  1187. 1:12:05implementing for a development and
  1188. 1:12:08learning area that we call, for example
  1189. 1:12:10, the calming corner? I think it's very
  1190. 1:12:19interesting to implement rest and
  1191. 1:12:22calming corners. They should be present
  1192. 1:12:27in each of the classrooms or in the
  1193. 1:12:29group spaces as well, shouldn't they?
  1194. 1:12:33Because children spend a lot of time
  1195. 1:12:35together and need moments of isolation,
  1196. 1:12:38to be alone, to say, "I can't take it
  1197. 1:12:40anymore, right?" Just as we at home say
  1198. 1:12:43, "I'm leaving, I can't be with so many
  1199. 1:12:46people, I don't need my office or my
  1200. 1:12:48little armchair to isolate myself at
  1201. 1:12:51any given moment." Children need that
  1202. 1:12:53too. Therefore, it seems to me that a
  1203. 1:12:56calming environment could be a small
  1204. 1:13:00sofa that we have recovered from
  1205. 1:13:02someone's house, two cushions placed on
  1206. 1:13:05the floor, a small curtain, right? A
  1207. 1:13:09small piece of cloth that covers and
  1208. 1:13:11acts as a nest space, right? They are
  1209. 1:13:13like nest spaces, enveloping spaces
  1210. 1:13:15that help with children. Many times
  1211. 1:13:18children can also self-regulate
  1212. 1:13:21emotionally in these spaces. Children
  1213. 1:13:25who come from a moment of conflict, a
  1214. 1:13:27moment of anger, have fought with
  1215. 1:13:29another child and the teacher tells
  1216. 1:13:31them, "Why don't you go to the calm
  1217. 1:13:32space for a while?" It is not like a
  1218. 1:13:37space where they can breathe again,
  1219. 1:13:40where they learn to breathe, they learn
  1220. 1:13:43to calm down and this emotional
  1221. 1:13:45self-regulation is very important for
  1222. 1:13:48development and learning. So, it seems
  1223. 1:13:51to me that the strategy in terms of the
  1224. 1:13:56physical space strategy is very easy to
  1225. 1:13:59organize. Uh, the important thing is
  1226. 1:14:02how we include it in the day-to-day and
  1227. 1:14:05how we make it effective, right?,for
  1228. 1:14:08this emotional self-regulation of
  1229. 1:14:10children
  1230. 1:14:13>> and how children understand that it is
  1231. 1:14:16a space they can go to when they really
  1232. 1:14:19have that emotion and that feeling and
  1233. 1:14:21it is free access
  1234. 1:14:23>> to self-regulation, as you said, right?
  1235. 1:14:26>> Yes. Yes.
  1236. 1:14:28>> Look, another question. How could
  1237. 1:14:31development and learning areas be
  1238. 1:14:36included when there is a large group
  1239. 1:14:41and limited classroom space? Once again
  1240. 1:14:46, I believe they are asking us, they
  1241. 1:14:52are conveying to us that same doubt
  1242. 1:14:54about those specific areas that we
  1243. 1:14:59might have available to us. Although we
  1244. 1:15:03have seen in the training process that
  1245. 1:15:06they can be multiple, that they must be
  1246. 1:15:10changing, that they must be
  1247. 1:15:12periodically enriched, but well, they
  1248. 1:15:16ask for your opinion on what
  1249. 1:15:18development and learning areas we could
  1250. 1:15:22include in the classroom when space is
  1251. 1:15:26small. Yes, a bit like what we were
  1252. 1:15:29saying before.
  1253. 1:15:30>> And large groups, that is common to all
  1254. 1:15:32educational centers. Yes, you have
  1255. 1:15:35large groups. I am seeing a bit, right?
  1256. 1:15:38The questions also ask about their
  1257. 1:15:41needs, right? And obviously a bit, I
  1258. 1:15:45repeat, the same, we can open the group
  1259. 1:15:47space to other outdoor spaces. Oh, play
  1260. 1:15:53and learning experiences can also be
  1261. 1:15:55generated in the patio, in the garden
  1262. 1:15:58or in the outdoor area that you have. I
  1263. 1:16:03don't understand that you have good
  1264. 1:16:05weather most of the year and therefore
  1265. 1:16:08the outdoor space is also very
  1266. 1:16:10important on an emotional level to be
  1267. 1:16:13in contact with nature, to be in
  1268. 1:16:15contact with the air and to breathe,
  1269. 1:16:17right? Uh, in a big way, right? So, it
  1270. 1:16:23seems to me that the inclusion of
  1271. 1:16:25outdoor zones as additional learning
  1272. 1:16:27spaces can be important. Why don't we
  1273. 1:16:31go outside to have a circle or tell a
  1274. 1:16:34story or have a conversation or think
  1275. 1:16:36together? Sometimes it's better to
  1276. 1:16:39think outside than inside, right? So, I
  1277. 1:16:43think it's about opening people's minds
  1278. 1:16:45a little bit so that the entire school
  1279. 1:16:46can be a learning space, as we were
  1280. 1:16:48saying before, right? Another strategy
  1281. 1:16:52is sometimes to say, I can't have fixed
  1282. 1:16:54areas in the classroom because the
  1283. 1:16:56classroom doesn't have enough space to
  1284. 1:16:58have a construction area, a painting
  1285. 1:17:00area, a symbolic play area, it doesn't
  1286. 1:17:02give me enough. And sometimes I say,
  1287. 1:17:06schools have to be like a kind of
  1288. 1:17:08trailer. In trailers we have trailers
  1289. 1:17:11or in caravans, right? We can have many
  1290. 1:17:14boxes stored away, but we take them out
  1291. 1:17:16like magicians and say, "Well, today we
  1292. 1:17:18take out a box, we take out another one
  1293. 1:17:20and tomorrow we'll take out others,
  1294. 1:17:22right?" Ah, even though they are not
  1295. 1:17:25fixed spaces, stable spaces, but we do
  1296. 1:17:27have materials stored away that we take
  1297. 1:17:30out and put back, right? That would be
  1298. 1:17:32another possibility, right? But I would
  1299. 1:17:36insist a lot first. Think about the
  1300. 1:17:38outdoor areas, how you can transform
  1301. 1:17:41them.
  1302. 1:17:45>> Hey, look, María Antonia, as an expert
  1303. 1:17:49in family participation, here is a
  1304. 1:17:52question that
  1305. 1:17:56>> I think you might be able to shed some
  1306. 1:17:58light on. Look, tell us how I can truly
  1307. 1:18:02develop rich environments for
  1308. 1:18:06development and learning. Environments
  1309. 1:18:11of emotional support for early
  1310. 1:18:14childhood children when there is no
  1311. 1:18:17collaboration from the family, when I
  1312. 1:18:20do not have the support of the family
  1313. 1:18:23as a teacher. Yes, this happens many
  1314. 1:18:30times, right? We have families that I
  1315. 1:18:35always say, right? We have worked in
  1316. 1:18:39programs with highly vulnerable
  1317. 1:18:41families, working on the bond, working
  1318. 1:18:44and yes, if there is one thing I have
  1319. 1:18:47learned, it is that families do it the
  1320. 1:18:50way they want. better than they know
  1321. 1:18:53and can, right? And I think that's
  1322. 1:18:57important. First, valuing that parents
  1323. 1:19:01do what they can. They do what they can
  1324. 1:19:05. Many times they have to survive, they
  1325. 1:19:07have to fend for themselves, they have
  1326. 1:19:09to go to work every day and they can't
  1327. 1:19:11be on top of the school. There are no
  1328. 1:19:14parents who trust the school, the
  1329. 1:19:16educational work, because they can't do
  1330. 1:19:18anything at home and when they get home
  1331. 1:19:20they're exhausted at night, right? And
  1332. 1:19:24they can barely talk to their child for
  1333. 1:19:26a while, right? Or play with them for a
  1334. 1:19:29while. That's why this situation is sad
  1335. 1:19:33, but it's very real. It happens in
  1336. 1:19:36many family contexts. That's why I
  1337. 1:19:39insist on the school as a space for
  1338. 1:19:42resilience, as a protective space that
  1339. 1:19:45provides quality relationships for
  1340. 1:19:47children, but it's also true that we
  1341. 1:19:50must work, try to work with families,
  1342. 1:19:53right? And sometimes, just as we've
  1343. 1:19:57talked about pedagogical tact with
  1344. 1:19:59children, we should talk about
  1345. 1:20:01pedagogical tact with families, how we
  1346. 1:20:03approach them. I've seen great
  1347. 1:20:06educators, great professionals with
  1348. 1:20:08children, but they don't know how to
  1349. 1:20:10deal with families. Why? Because they
  1350. 1:20:14make judgments. Because they say that
  1351. 1:20:16this family doesn't know how to do it.
  1352. 1:20:17Look at the mess they make. But look at
  1353. 1:20:19the way they have their children. But
  1354. 1:20:22look at how dirty Juan has arrived
  1355. 1:20:24today. But look, then it's like saying,
  1356. 1:20:28of course, if we start putting labels
  1357. 1:20:31or making judgments about families,
  1358. 1:20:33families, feeling judged, withdraw.
  1359. 1:20:38It's like from understanding, from
  1360. 1:20:40empathy, with your vulnerability, with
  1361. 1:20:44what you're suffering, with what you
  1362. 1:20:46can't do more. I mean, I know that you
  1363. 1:20:49would like to do it differently, but
  1364. 1:20:50you don't have the time or you don't
  1365. 1:20:52know how to do it differently, right?
  1366. 1:20:55So, I think that pedagogical tact has
  1367. 1:20:57to be applied. This affectionate look,
  1368. 1:21:00this empathetic, understanding look
  1369. 1:21:03with families, I think often changes
  1370. 1:21:05the relationship with families. A
  1371. 1:21:09family that feels listened to,
  1372. 1:21:11understood, that feels that they
  1373. 1:21:14understand their pain or their
  1374. 1:21:16difficulty, is a family that will
  1375. 1:21:18surely enter school differently.
  1376. 1:21:22Tomorrow they will be able to be with
  1377. 1:21:23you in a different way. And when I
  1378. 1:21:26share with parents the wonders, the
  1379. 1:21:30learnings that your child has done and
  1380. 1:21:35that I value, right? Sometimes parents
  1381. 1:21:37also judge their children and we have
  1382. 1:21:40to teach them to value them, to respect
  1383. 1:21:43them, to believe in their children's
  1384. 1:21:46abilities, right? And that is something
  1385. 1:21:49that we must transmit to families from
  1386. 1:21:50school. Look at what Juan did today for
  1387. 1:21:53the first time. For the first time he
  1388. 1:21:56did or played with Marcos, which was
  1389. 1:21:59impossible before, or for the first
  1390. 1:22:02time he was interested in writing his
  1391. 1:22:05name or he asked me or he asked me,
  1392. 1:22:08right? I believe that these are small
  1393. 1:22:11anecdotes that we must transmit to
  1394. 1:22:13families, right? With this human warmth
  1395. 1:22:16and with this understanding of the
  1396. 1:22:18fragility that we all have as parents,
  1397. 1:22:20right? María Antonía, how can we
  1398. 1:22:29differentiate a proposal from an
  1399. 1:22:32experience that is fun to one that
  1400. 1:22:38truly excites, surprises and therefore
  1401. 1:22:42generates meaningful learning. Well, we
  1402. 1:22:51have said that we must learn from
  1403. 1:22:54pleasure. Pleasure is also fun, right?
  1404. 1:22:58Let's not get it wrong, it is also fun,
  1405. 1:23:01Right? But it is true that for me an
  1406. 1:23:05important indicator that a proposal is
  1407. 1:23:08working well is seeing the attention
  1408. 1:23:12and concentration that children have on
  1409. 1:23:15it. We can't talk about scattered
  1410. 1:23:19attention, right? They're children
  1411. 1:23:23moving to and fro, right? Who have
  1412. 1:23:26difficulty concentrating on an object,
  1413. 1:23:29on a proposal, right? And instead we
  1414. 1:23:33can see sustained or concentrated
  1415. 1:23:35attention, right? So the level of
  1416. 1:23:39attention tells me the quality of the
  1417. 1:23:42proposal that we have presented. It
  1418. 1:23:46also tells me the quality of the
  1419. 1:23:47proposal. If the children share among
  1420. 1:23:51themselves, right? If they share, if
  1421. 1:23:54they talk, if they share the material,
  1422. 1:23:56they try to do it together, they try
  1423. 1:23:58not to set new challenges together. For
  1424. 1:24:02me it is also an indicator if they
  1425. 1:24:04share the proposal, that is, the
  1426. 1:24:06attention, if they share, right? The
  1427. 1:24:09time, how much time they spend on this
  1428. 1:24:11proposal, right? Because the time and
  1429. 1:24:15attention will depend on the quality of
  1430. 1:24:18the proposal, it will depend on the
  1431. 1:24:20type of materials that we have provided
  1432. 1:24:22, how we present them, on I say, before
  1433. 1:24:24making a proposal we should always test
  1434. 1:24:29it ourselves as educators. I mean, what
  1435. 1:24:32do I mean? What can I do with these
  1436. 1:24:34materials, right? How could I create
  1437. 1:24:38new possibilities with them, right?
  1438. 1:24:42What can I learn with them? What can I
  1439. 1:24:44experience? No, we should never make a
  1440. 1:24:48proposal without first having reflected
  1441. 1:24:51on what possibilities this proposal
  1442. 1:24:54gives to children. But I believe that
  1443. 1:24:58pleasure and fun are something that is
  1444. 1:25:01...How great that they have fun, how
  1445. 1:25:03great that there is pleasure, right?
  1446. 1:25:07The children that you see in a proposal
  1447. 1:25:09with a happy look, that they laugh,
  1448. 1:25:11that they smile, it is because they are
  1449. 1:25:13experiencing it with pleasure. Yes. And
  1450. 1:25:18that is important.
  1451. 1:25:22>> And notice that some teachers say how
  1452. 1:25:26to achieve that quality time
  1453. 1:25:31>> when we also have pressure, especially
  1454. 1:25:35in the groups of the older ones, of
  1455. 1:25:39>> seven and eight, that is, of 6 or 7
  1456. 1:25:41years old,
  1457. 1:25:42>> with books. We must incorporate all of
  1458. 1:25:47this into the very same model that we
  1459. 1:25:52are currently focusing our attention
  1460. 1:25:54upon right now. We have to ensure that
  1461. 1:25:57the inclusion of books also generates a
  1462. 1:26:02desire, an emotion, a surprise. How can
  1463. 1:26:07we do it? This is the squaring of of
  1464. 1:26:11the circle because it is complicated.
  1465. 1:26:15>> Yes, yes. When we also talk here about
  1466. 1:26:18the curriculum, right? The curriculum
  1467. 1:26:21that children have to learn, especially
  1468. 1:26:23in primary school, compulsory school,
  1469. 1:26:25right? And of course, teachers are
  1470. 1:26:29under enormous pressure, right? Saying,
  1471. 1:26:32"Okay, it's fine for children to learn
  1472. 1:26:35with pleasure, but they have to learn
  1473. 1:26:37this content, they have to learn it no
  1474. 1:26:39matter what." I say, "Look, school is a
  1475. 1:26:42space for learning, let's not forget
  1476. 1:26:45that. School has to ensure that all
  1477. 1:26:50children learn. It's not just a space
  1478. 1:26:53to play and have fun, no, no. Children
  1479. 1:26:56have to learn, but children can learn
  1480. 1:26:59in many ways. Yes. So, I think that now
  1481. 1:27:06with some schools that are considering
  1482. 1:27:08this, in Spain there are almost no
  1483. 1:27:09textbooks anymore, but there are
  1484. 1:27:11curricular contents that children have
  1485. 1:27:15to acquire, right? So we talk about the
  1486. 1:27:19essentials, all this that they have to
  1487. 1:27:22learn, what content is essential, what
  1488. 1:27:25learning is essential and these have to
  1489. 1:27:29be included, right? I think that making
  1490. 1:27:32a good selection of what is essential
  1491. 1:27:35and what is not so essential can
  1492. 1:27:37already be a first step, right? Another
  1493. 1:27:40thing is how we accompany the content
  1494. 1:27:43they find in books with experiences
  1495. 1:27:45that are more meaningful, more
  1496. 1:27:47functional. We weren't saying now that
  1497. 1:27:51there is so much talk about learning by
  1498. 1:27:54skills. What do skills mean? It means
  1499. 1:27:59that when I learn to add, subtract or
  1500. 1:28:01multiply, I do it so that it is useful
  1501. 1:28:04in my day-to-day life, so that when I
  1502. 1:28:07go shopping I can do the math faster,
  1503. 1:28:09right? Or when I share the birthday
  1504. 1:28:14cake I can learn to calculate how many
  1505. 1:28:16slices I have to make for the children
  1506. 1:28:19there. So, I think it is important to
  1507. 1:28:23bring learning closer to life. When we
  1508. 1:28:28talk about functional learning,
  1509. 1:28:30meaningful learning, learning that is
  1510. 1:28:32useful for life, I think that is
  1511. 1:28:34extremely important and I think that
  1512. 1:28:36children need to know why they are
  1513. 1:28:38learning this. What will learning this
  1514. 1:28:42be useful for? What will learning to
  1515. 1:28:45add and subtract be useful for? We are
  1516. 1:28:48going to use real-life examples and we
  1517. 1:28:50are going to practice it at school.
  1518. 1:28:53That is why a corner of the supermarket
  1519. 1:28:56can be a place to practice useful
  1520. 1:28:59learning. Yes. So, I think that
  1521. 1:29:02incorporating
  1522. 1:29:04>> a development and learning area into a
  1523. 1:29:08supermarket is always a success
  1524. 1:29:13>> and it is also a completely integrative
  1525. 1:29:16proposal for the curriculum. The last
  1526. 1:29:22question, María Antonio, note that
  1527. 1:29:25teachers are reaching out to us, they
  1528. 1:29:28are sharing their legitimate and real
  1529. 1:29:31concerns,
  1530. 1:29:33>> small spaces and many children in the
  1531. 1:29:38classroom. But there is also another
  1532. 1:29:41reality, which is rural environments,
  1533. 1:29:43very similar to our single-level
  1534. 1:29:46classrooms, so that you can put it into
  1535. 1:29:48perspective, María Antonia, and also
  1536. 1:29:51multi-grade classrooms where there are
  1537. 1:29:53children of different ages, mixed
  1538. 1:29:55classrooms of different levels, okay?
  1539. 1:29:59So that you can put it into our context
  1540. 1:30:01and know how to respond to them. So,
  1541. 1:30:04they ask us how are all these
  1542. 1:30:09environments that you have suggested
  1543. 1:30:12possible, all these emotional aspects,
  1544. 1:30:16aesthetics, learning with emotion, how
  1545. 1:30:20to bring it to these rural environments
  1546. 1:30:24or these multi-grade classrooms, when
  1547. 1:30:30there are different ages, in all of
  1548. 1:30:36them, right? It
  1549. 1:30:39>> seems to me that diversity, diversity
  1550. 1:30:42is a treasure and that diversity of
  1551. 1:30:45both ages and cultural diversity, like
  1552. 1:30:49diversity, right? It is a treasure that
  1553. 1:30:55we must incorporate into schools, well,
  1554. 1:30:58that are already included in schools,
  1555. 1:31:01right? In these rural schools or
  1556. 1:31:04multi-level schools, right? It seems to
  1557. 1:31:08me that the relationship between young
  1558. 1:31:10children and older children, right?
  1559. 1:31:14It's fantastic. It's fantastic, isn't
  1560. 1:31:18it? Children learn thanks to others. A
  1561. 1:31:22child doesn't learn alone. A child
  1562. 1:31:25always learns because there are others
  1563. 1:31:28who teach them, right? Through
  1564. 1:31:31imitation, through modeling. So, it
  1565. 1:31:35seems to me that the value of sharing
  1566. 1:31:38classrooms with children of different
  1567. 1:31:40ages can become something positive, not
  1568. 1:31:42something that takes away from us, but
  1569. 1:31:45something that adds to us, right? But,
  1570. 1:31:49obviously, in fact, here in Spain,
  1571. 1:31:52classrooms that are based on age levels
  1572. 1:31:55are increasingly being transformed into
  1573. 1:31:58multi-level classrooms, but not because
  1574. 1:32:01reality requires it, but because the
  1575. 1:32:03teachers choose it, the school itself
  1576. 1:32:06chooses it, because they see that it is
  1577. 1:32:09an enrichment, because diversity is an
  1578. 1:32:12enrichment. So they are mixing ages of
  1579. 1:32:16children of 6, 7 and 8 years old, of
  1580. 1:32:19three, three and four, right? By
  1581. 1:32:22educational cycle. So, it seems to me
  1582. 1:32:25that this is a very rich approach, but
  1583. 1:32:28it forces us to understand that the
  1584. 1:32:30environment must take into account this
  1585. 1:32:33diversity. Therefore, in the space, in
  1586. 1:32:37the areas, in the proposals, we must
  1587. 1:32:40also consider these multilevels and
  1588. 1:32:43children must be able to find learning
  1589. 1:32:46challenges that are appropriate for
  1590. 1:32:48each level. And this is a challenge for
  1591. 1:32:52us, to say that we must think of
  1592. 1:32:54proposals that are adapted to this
  1593. 1:32:58child who still does not know how to
  1594. 1:33:00read, to this child who already knows
  1595. 1:33:02how to read, but who can act as a
  1596. 1:33:04reading companion for this one who
  1597. 1:33:06still does not know how, right? And I
  1598. 1:33:09can pose a greater challenge, right? To
  1599. 1:33:13those who already speak very fluently
  1600. 1:33:15and read very fluently, right? In other
  1601. 1:33:18words, I believe that it is a challenge
  1602. 1:33:20to prepare environments and spaces well
  1603. 1:33:22with multilevels, with multilevels of
  1604. 1:33:25proposals, with multilevels of
  1605. 1:33:27challenges, but let's help the children
  1606. 1:33:31share knowledge with each other. One
  1607. 1:33:34who is very good is that he is a great
  1608. 1:33:36drawer, who loves to draw, who loves to
  1609. 1:33:39create with that other child who says,"
  1610. 1:33:41I just don't know how to draw. "Ah,
  1611. 1:33:44let's make pairs, let's make pairs so
  1612. 1:33:47that one can influence the other, so
  1613. 1:33:49that they can share the learning of the
  1614. 1:33:52others. Children can help us. And it
  1615. 1:33:57seems to me that it is a wealth, no, no
  1616. 1:34:00, that it is a difficulty, but it is
  1617. 1:34:02true that we must work on it well to
  1618. 1:34:05contemplate this diversity in the
  1619. 1:34:08classroom, creating areas, spaces,
  1620. 1:34:10diverse materials, right? Which can
  1621. 1:34:14even be labeled. You can put materials
  1622. 1:34:19suitable for each level with a color,
  1623. 1:34:21with a number, with which they
  1624. 1:34:22themselves know. I still can't do this
  1625. 1:34:25game, it is very difficult for me, but
  1626. 1:34:28I know that I can take the green one,
  1627. 1:34:30which is easier for me, and I haven't
  1628. 1:34:32reached the blue one yet, but I will
  1629. 1:34:35try if I dare, right? In other words,
  1630. 1:34:37there are all sorts of strategies for
  1631. 1:34:39organizing materials and space so that
  1632. 1:34:42children can find their way around it.
  1633. 1:34:44I don't know if you answered" Yes "very
  1634. 1:34:46well,
  1635. 1:34:47>> I think so. You've even given some
  1636. 1:34:52ideas, but in addition, these types of
  1637. 1:34:55classrooms, which are quite a challenge
  1638. 1:34:58, have emotional value and value in
  1639. 1:35:00terms of teaching and learning through
  1640. 1:35:03emotion, because they really develop
  1641. 1:35:09values in the children in these
  1642. 1:35:12classrooms. You talk about solidarity,
  1643. 1:35:16tolerance, and support, which are very
  1644. 1:35:22important for life and for citizenship,
  1645. 1:35:25so that's also a value that we can add
  1646. 1:35:29to these types of groups with different
  1647. 1:35:32ages, right?
  1648. 1:35:35>> Absolutely.
  1649. 1:35:35>> Thank you very much, María Antonia.
  1650. 1:35:39It's been a pleasure to have you with
  1651. 1:35:41us and listen to you. And since this
  1652. 1:35:46presentation has been recorded, we'll
  1653. 1:35:48listen to it again with great pleasure
  1654. 1:35:51and with great attention. Okay, let's
  1655. 1:35:55remind all participants that María
  1656. 1:36:00Antonia will access the remaining
  1657. 1:36:03questions on the padlet and will answer
  1658. 1:36:06those that she can over the next few
  1659. 1:36:09days. And I would like to tell you all
  1660. 1:36:13that there will be a break until, I
  1661. 1:36:16think if I'm not mistaken about the
  1662. 1:36:18time in El Salvador, it's 10:23, so you
  1663. 1:36:24will have a break until 10:40. And
  1664. 1:36:28before returning to the presentation of
  1665. 1:36:33the experiences of teachers from around
  1666. 1:36:36the country, another QR code will be
  1667. 1:36:44displayed on the screen that you must
  1668. 1:36:47use to ask questions to the teachers
  1669. 1:36:50who will present their next two
  1670. 1:36:53experiences after the break. Thank you
  1671. 1:36:58very much, María Antonia. It's been a
  1672. 1:37:00pleasure
  1673. 1:37:01>> for all of you. It's also been a
  1674. 1:37:03pleasure to share this little moment
  1675. 1:37:05with you. Thank you.

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