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0:10ladies and gentlemen this is Apollo 13
0:13mission press conference and we use same
0:16format tonight to leave use for previous
0:18post mission press conferences the crew
0:22will go through a narrative of the
0:25mission
0:25then we'll have question answers they'll
0:27be only one slide tonight and if when we
0:31get to the question answers if you wait
0:33for the microphone we'd appreciate it
0:34like at this time to introduce the
0:37Apollo 13 crew captain James Lovell mr.
0:41John swaiket mr. Fred Hayes Jim thank
0:45you
0:45Thank You Julian I'd like to start out
0:48the briefing by saying that I'm not a
0:51superstitious person and therefore when
0:55we were assigned to Apollo 13 I thought
0:59nothing of it as a matter of fact some
1:00of my friends of Italian descent had
1:03said that 13 was a very lucky number and
1:06they were happy that I got that number
1:07it all sort of started to actually just
1:10before the flight as was well documented
1:14as we are approaching the final phase of
1:17our training the last couple days are
1:20usually ones of which are taking very
1:22leisurely you try to keep a couple days
1:25free just to let ourselves unwind from
1:27the long train cycle you get plenty of
1:29rest so that when we launch that we're
1:32in good shape and and we can go with a
1:35sort of an easy mind as you well know a
1:38turn of events occurred and Ken
1:42Mattingly who was our command module
1:44pilot was exposed to the measles and at
1:48that time we had to make a big decision
1:50to bring Jack along or to delay the
1:53flight it was one which was not easy for
1:56me to help decide and when they asked me
1:59what I wanted to do because we had
2:01worked as a team for a long time but I
2:04also realized that the
2:05the space program had matured to that
2:07degree whereby we had quite a few people
2:11who were well knowledgeable about the
2:13space craft and who were well qualified
2:15to fly as a consequence on Friday we
2:20decided to take Jack along and I like to
2:24say right now that I've never regretted
2:25that that decision we as a team I think
2:29and Jack would take it or help us out
2:31during our ensuing Odyssey tremendously
2:38at this time I think I would like to
2:41just break off just a second and
2:43introduce a couple other people of our
2:47team that that also served although
2:52we're not as in the same position we
2:55were Marilyn would you take the stand
2:57please
2:57this is my wife Marilyn
3:05dang Guzman and right next is my wife
3:10remarried
3:11[Applause]
3:17now I think the entire crew the
3:20Continental stewardesses are here
3:21tonight for Jack
3:24[Music]
3:29Jack had a lot of help on this one the
3:36launch Saturday morning was not unusual
3:39there was a very nominal launch the suit
3:42up the ingress to the spacecraft was
3:45very smooth we did practice it before it
3:48seemed even a lot easier than I've
3:49experienced on Apollo 8
3:50liftoff came just as I had known it
3:53before communications were excellent and
3:56the entire boost phase was as compared
3:59was compared very favorably with what I
4:02had experienced before except during the
4:04s2 burn at which case I noticed the
4:08inboard light come on indicating the
4:11nest on the second stage indicating that
4:13an engine had shut down I called in
4:16board as was the normal procedure
4:20and realized then that it had come about
4:252 minutes early and the ground confirmed
4:28this and as a consequence we had an
4:30early engine out in the s2 stage and our
4:34total boost time was about a minute
4:36longer
4:36this did not impair our our flight
4:40however we had enough fuel to relight
4:42the third stage and go on into a
4:44translunar injection and a trajectory
4:48towards the moon the flight up until
4:53about 56 hours was I guess what you'd
4:57call an Italian nominal we had followed
4:59the flight plan we were ahead of the
5:03game it took us a little bit longer to
5:05get rid of our preciouses than we
5:07thought and we had asked the ground
5:09about 55 hours if we could indeed get
5:13into the lunar module about 3 hours
5:14early the flight plan called to go into
5:17the spacecraft at around 58 hours
5:20other ground said fine why don't you
5:23open up the LEM and go on down and do
5:25your housekeeping chores
5:26there was one of the little engineering
5:29tasks which we had to before
5:32also in with that was a television
5:35program which we were supposed to put on
5:37so we decided to open up the Lunar
5:40Module Fred got into the spacecraft went
5:43out looked at the super helium the
5:47critical pressure on the super helium
5:48tank to make sure it was nominal we were
5:50having some problems with that before
5:52the flight it was and then we put on the
5:56little TV show which is called for in
5:59the flight plan I guess the show lasted
6:03for about a half an hour and just after
6:08we had turned off the camera fed was
6:11still in the lunar module Jack was back
6:13in the command module on the left hand
6:15seat and I was halfway in between and
6:18the lower equipment Bay wrestling with
6:19TV wires and a camera and watching Fred
6:22coming on down when all three of us
6:25heard a rather large bang just just one
6:29bang now before that Fred being in the
6:33lunar module had actuated a valve which
6:35normally gives us that same sound and
6:38since he didn't tell us about it we all
6:41rather jumped up and we're sort of
6:43worried about it but it was his joke and
6:45we all thought it was a lot of fun of
6:47the time since something happened so
6:49when this bang came we really didn't get
6:53concerned right away but the I looked up
6:56with Fred and if Fred had that
6:57expression like it wasn't his fault
7:00and we suddenly realize that something
7:06else occurred but exactly what we didn't
7:08know I'd like to go on now and let Fred
7:11and Jack explain just what their
7:15impressions were at this very same
7:17instance that I heard the explosion in
7:20the law recoupment base Jack okay excuse
7:25the sensation I had that I had felt a
7:29vibration coming to bang not a large
7:32vibration or shudder I proceeded to look
7:39at Jim and in about the same time which
7:42is I guess about two seconds had elapsed
7:44when I had a master alarm and a main
7:47Busby undervolt light i transmitted to
7:51houston that we had a problem and
7:53proceeded to over on the right-hand side
7:56of the spacecraft to look at the voltage
7:58the bullies at that time was completely
8:01normal
8:02the current was not high and the fuel
8:05cell flows were normal which indicated
8:07to me that whatever was it was some sort
8:09of a transient that that didn't exist at
8:12that time it me being a command module
8:18pilot and the source of the the the bang
8:24not immediately determinable it was my
8:28thought that of course I had a little
8:30more confidence in the command module so
8:32I thought it occurred in a limb and I
8:33said let's get the hatch in here and and
8:37so we can sit back and think about it
8:39because we had the tunnel open at this
8:42time and I was afraid that we might be
8:43vulnerable to losing pressure so I
8:45proceeded to get the hatch in to begin
8:49installing the hatch and at that time
8:51Fred went back over to the lunar module
8:55pilot scow and I'll let him tell what
8:58his observations were as far as the
9:01instruments and the other caution
9:03warning alarms now ah
9:06first of all due to my position being a
9:10lot more familiar with the
9:12side of the house my natural a first
9:16impulse on feeling this shudder and
9:20explosion was to make sure the LEM hatch
9:25was latched fully open because I was
9:30just as equally sure that the problem
9:31was upstairs and not that down in the
9:34lamp and I proceeded as best as I could
9:39from there to my a normal position to
9:41start looking at the the one caution of
9:45warning that Jack had mentioned the
9:49situation had changed by the time I I
9:51got there when I looked at this bus I
9:53was indicating as far as my gauge read
9:56the lowest rail and I looked at the fuel
10:00cell which happened to be still showing
10:03it was connected to that bus the fuel
10:05cell three it was not out putting any
10:09amps so my first thinking spell was
10:15mainly due to considering the fact that
10:17this the deed it really meant that we
10:21lost that field bill also meant by a
10:24mission rule that we wouldn't be burnin
10:26LOI and with that one problem we had are
10:30the loss to any subsequently
10:34I also had two other lights 82 and 1/8
10:39the overload and indeed we had lost the
10:43inverter that was being powered off that
10:46bus so I proceeded to switch some of the
10:49loads from AC to the other inverter that
10:52was on the other main bus and this
10:56induced an under voltage on the other
10:58main bus and
11:02that's when I got a little smarter and
11:04thought maybe I'd look at the other fuel
11:06cells which I hadn't even considered
11:08this heaven had a problem and I found
11:11the fuel cell one also not outputting
11:15the amps from this from this point on we
11:21were kind of under the under the hands
11:24of keaston and further troubleshooting
11:27and looking at a few more dials down on
11:31a another meter and the lab2 look at the
11:33regulated pressures and eventually we
11:36got to the point where houston called up
11:41and asked us to shut down the fuel cell
11:433
11:44shut down the reactance valve and I
11:49asked for reconfirmation since when you
11:52do that it's sort of irreversible if you
11:54shut when these things down they only
11:57can be restarted from ground support
11:59equipment and they assured me they
12:04really meant it so I went through with
12:06it and subsequently the same command was
12:09given for fuel cell one about this point
12:13in time the cryo pressure the oxygen
12:16pressure had gone in the bile tank - and
12:20the pressure in tank number one was
12:23rather steadily slowly but steadily
12:26decreasing that was obvious that wasn't
12:28hold on its own and right about then at
12:31it was quite apparent to me that there
12:34was just a question of time that the
12:36command module was going to be dead we
12:38were going to lose that fuel cell also
12:40so I kind of lost interest in that
12:42position and headed for the limb
12:46I think one of the things that's that we
12:50neglected to mention that I've been in
12:52my efforts to put in the hatch when Jim
12:54noticed we had considerable venting out
12:57the side of the command module so they
12:59indicated we were losing some sort of
13:01liquid or material from the area of the
13:04service module so it indicated to us
13:06that we truly had a problem in the
13:08service module I guess it's kind of
13:11interesting to to know what the feelings
13:13our crew when something like this
13:15happens when you first hear this
13:18explosion or pang you don't know what it
13:21is we've had similar sounds and the
13:23spacecraft before that were for nothing
13:26and then to me my impression was as we
13:29came back that we had an electrical
13:32problem that caused this bang because we
13:35in previous testing we had some problems
13:38while these lines that quickly went away
13:41then I looked out the window and saw
13:43this venting and my my concern was
13:46increasing all the time it went from I
13:48wonder what this is going to do to the
13:51landing to I wonder if we can get back
13:55home again and it sort of went into that
13:57type of seriousness and when I looked up
14:00and saw both oxygen pressures one
14:03absolute is zero another one going down
14:05it it dawned on me and I'm sure jacket
14:09and Fred about the same time that we
14:10were indeed in serious trouble it was
14:15apparent and the ground told us so and
14:17they're right on the on the ball all the
14:20time that the only way to survive this
14:22situation was to transfer to the LEM and
14:28so at that time Fred first of all went
14:32into the lab cut out our activation
14:35checklist a checklist which normally is
14:38not used until prior to powering up the
14:42LEM to detach from the command module
14:44and prepare to go down to the lunar
14:46surface and we started going through
14:48procedures to get blunt power on and to
14:52align the platform
14:54the first milestone and I consider this
14:58after the accident I guess more or less
14:59the survival ánow the first milestone
15:03was to get alignment on the lemon
15:06platform alignments are important you
15:09know because without knowing exactly
15:12which way the attitude of the spacecraft
15:14is in space there's no way to tell how
15:16to burn or how to use the engines of
15:19that spacecraft to get the performance
15:20the proper trajectory to come home so we
15:23had to have an alignment onboard the
15:26spacecraft we do that the command module
15:29was going to lose it pretty soon because
15:30we're gonna lose power
15:32so as we worked Fred and I went into the
15:35Glitter module we got the power on we
15:37started to line the platform we used a
15:40procedure that was in the activation
15:42checklist Jack gave us the angles there
15:45was a little bit of arithmetic involved
15:47in all these procedures and and I had on
15:50occasion during practice to fail my
15:53arithmetic test and I was so concerned
15:56about being sure that this arithmetic
15:57was correct that I had actually called
15:59down the ground let them do the math
16:00came back in put it in but we did get a
16:03platform alignment and that was our
16:05first milestone from then on it was an
16:09entirely different situation and this
16:11tomorrow might tell you exactly how how
16:13we work up until the incident the normal
16:18command is in the command module control
16:21was by the service module engines as RCS
16:24engines as far as attitude control goes
16:27but we transferred our command to the
16:30lunar module and we are using the lunar
16:33module engines for control we had done
16:38some practice in this before but really
16:42had never thought that would ever have
16:44to use this particular control situation
16:46and to get control of this vehicle in
16:52pitch you have to use one translation
16:54controller
16:56in one way and enroll another way and in
16:59all you can use the ACA so what we did
17:03Fred would handle one part of the
17:07control now to handle the other in
17:08controlling the maneuverability of the
17:10spacecraft we also had back here a
17:13service module that was completely
17:16filled with main engine fuel we had used
17:20very little of it just at one small bit
17:22coarse burn and also we had RCS engines
17:26that were almost completely filled with
17:28fuel an important point to remember at
17:31this time too was the fact that we had
17:33gotten off what we call the free return
17:35trajectory we had done our mid-course
17:37maneuver some time before and this meant
17:40that we are no longer on a path that
17:42would allow us to be swung around the
17:45moon and come back towards the landing
17:47spot on the earth we had gotten off this
17:49trajectory because we wanted to go to a
17:52landing site so the first thing the
17:54ground told us to do was to farm the
17:57tips engine the descent propulsion
18:00engine to get us back on that free
18:03return trajectory which ever remember
18:05correctly was going to get us into what
18:07the Indian Ocean win it I think I lost
18:09track of oceans after 155 hours the
18:19controllability of the spacecraft was ok
18:23as long as we had our our indicators up
18:26because we had practiced that as I had
18:27said but suddenly to save par we shut
18:30that down for a while and we had it
18:32controlled by pointed looking at our
18:34computer display and I had never tried
18:38that before I really don't know who had
18:40and it's a very difficult task and we
18:42spent a lot of our first part of our
18:45briggsie or survival time just learning
18:46how to control the spacecraft in this
18:48mode our second milestone was what was
18:53known as the synth Ian Plus to burn our
18:57first maneuver was to get his back on
18:59free return the second one was to get us
19:01home early the nominal flight time back
19:05home was 155 hours if we had done
19:07nothing else but because consumables
19:10were critical and the ground was
19:12calculating consumables and Fred was
19:14also doing the back of the envelope
19:16calculation which he figured if we were
19:19lucky we had about one hour spare
19:21consumables left before we had landed we
19:24had decided of the ground had decided to
19:27burn at about two hours past the moon at
19:32about seventy nine hours of maneuvers to
19:34shorten the time to get home again this
19:37was also going to be an automatic burn
19:38using a decent propulsion engine and
19:42this burn was also very successful after
19:46that the ground was very much concerned
19:48with power and we were too and we
19:51decided to go into a power download we
19:54we turned off just about everything and
19:56I'd like to have Jack and Fred to tell
19:59about our power down situation in some
20:00of our survival and environmental calls
20:04Fred Cohan attack well when the LEM sat
20:07at a house we actually had two already
20:10can the pretty good procedure and a book
20:12called a contingency checklist just was
20:15pretty appropriate and I guess well
20:20first of all the backup to the consumer
20:21business the one our reserve I computed
20:24was on water and that was for the longer
20:27return so as soon as we got the second
20:29burn in we we had a little more fat even
20:32but at any rate I guess everybody myself
20:36included got a little bit fooled about
20:40how how low the limb actually could get
20:45down to and after completing this power
20:47down it settled down on consuming about
20:4911 amps an hour and that combined with
20:54the command module being completely
20:56inert led us to another environmental
21:00problem which
21:01jelmo discuss again very shortly ok on
21:07command module side of the house as soon
21:10as I found the
21:12I had the batteries on the line also to
21:15help out fuel cell - and as soon as I
21:18had ascertained that gem and and Fred
21:21had powered up - LEM we shut down and
21:25fuel cell - gave out on us we powered
21:29down the command module completely just
21:33prior or subsequent to person T and plus
21:36- we set all the switches in the command
21:39module in a basic switched configuration
21:41this configuration so that the ground
21:44and us could work from a standard switch
21:46configuration and then we began a series
21:50of procedures we were interested in did
21:55we indeed have a main bus B or had we
21:58lost it and the ground passed up a
22:02procedure for determining that and I
22:05read up read out that we had adequate
22:07voltage on main bus B we did have a good
22:09main bus B the second situation was the
22:15fact that we were very short on LEM
22:17water so we were not given any LEM water
22:22to drink because we needed that for the
22:23LEM cooling system so I had to go back
22:25into the command module and repressurize
22:28part of the environmental control system
22:30in order to obtain drinking water and
22:33there was a number of other procedures
22:34which during the transit Coast phase
22:39which developed and that was a procedure
22:41for powering the command module from the
22:44LEM which was exactly opposite from the
22:47normal the usual procedure where the
22:50command module normally powers phlegm we
22:53did power up the command module we did
22:56charge battery B to fully charge and
22:59over a period of 15 hours we did top off
23:02battery or battery a for 15 hours we did
23:06top off the charge on battery B so we
23:08had three fully charged batteries for
23:10re-entry and then four just prior to the
23:14entry phase we powered up some of the
23:16subsystems of the command module from
23:18the lamp
23:20I think that's one just one couple of
23:26anomalies that we had we did find that
23:28we had one water lake in the LEM which I
23:34discovered when my feet got wet the LEM
23:37water gun was leaking and we shut that
23:40off I guess it leaked about a quarter of
23:43wah a quart of water I was I would
23:45estimate but it took me about two days
23:48to get my feet dry and of course it is I
23:50think you were all aware that the
23:52temperatures were going down in both
23:54vehicles and it's made for very chewy
23:57feet for a couple days might be a little
24:01impression of just just what the
24:03environment was like when the incident
24:05occurred everything was nice and
24:07comfortable and we of course had powered
24:11down the command module and we used that
24:13as the bedroom when felling was off
24:15washed they'd go back into the command
24:16module and it was quiet nice and
24:20comfortable and I'd try to get some
24:21sleep of course in the early periods of
24:23this particular flight now we didn't
24:27want to sleep too much we were sort of
24:28worried of what was going to go on I
24:29went in there one time to go to sleep
24:32and Jack was on top of the couch and
24:34said Jack put up all the window shades
24:36let's get the place nice and dark well
24:38we'll just relax and have it nice and
24:41dark in here we can really get some
24:42sleep and I woke up a couple hours later
24:45and I was freezing as normally happens
24:48putting up window shades in space cuts
24:50out the sunlight and normally cools down
24:52the spacecraft but in most flights the
24:55heat from the systems will quickly
24:56rewarm it and as since we get the window
24:59shades up to be in normal position again
25:01but we got the window shades off after
25:03that and the spacecraft never did warm
25:05up again command module just slowly kept
25:08going down in temperature until I think
25:09just prior to reentry it was down to
25:12about 38 degrees and along with that it
25:16was a sort of a chilling coldness the
25:18walls were perspiring the windows were
25:21completely wet and it it wasn't too
25:24healthy I recall that we went in there
25:26to get some hot dogs one day and it was
25:27like reaching into the freezer for the
25:29for the food
25:33Jack why don't you tell them about some
25:34of the innovations that that the ground
25:36gave us in in for instance the lithium
25:39hydroxide canisters which I thought was
25:40quite interesting well we we did have a
25:43shortage of lithium hydroxide and the
25:47ground red us up a procedure in order to
25:49adapt some of the command module lithium
25:51hydroxide canisters for use in the LEM
25:54and as they read this thing up Jim and I
25:57constructed one of these things at this
26:00point in time I think the partial
26:02pressure of carbon dioxide was reading
26:04about fifteen millimeters and we
26:06constructed two of these things and put
26:08them online and I think within an hour
26:10the partial pressure of co2 was down to
26:13two tenths so these were very effective
26:16devices and we used four of these of the
26:20command module canisters and never did
26:21they use the secondary the main canister
26:26that we had in reserve that was for the
26:28lunar module of course as the as a
26:33temperature went down we became
26:36concerned about keeping warm and Fred
26:39and I broke out our lunar boots which we
26:41had stood away in the lunar module and
26:44Jack looked at his wet feet a couple of
26:46times but he had an extra set of
26:49underwear so he put that on we actually
26:53had a third little sleep restraint which
26:55Fred does then put on and buttoned up
26:57and kept a little bit warm one of the
27:00biggest problems we had was one which
27:04might have hurt our trajectory and that
27:08was that we didn't want to dump things
27:10overboard as it turned out later on it
27:12was more of an imaginary problem than
27:14then we thought at the time however we
27:18were we thought we were told anyway that
27:20don't put any waste water dumps over the
27:22side because it might disturb the
27:23trajectory and we're tracking you and we
27:25want to make sure that you could come
27:26back and hit the proper angle to reenter
27:30and Fred why don't you tell them what we
27:32did with all that stuff
27:34[Music]
27:38well we the things we've had on board
27:41that were built for that sort of purpose
27:44were three bags on board the command
27:48module about about that size square that
27:52were really a backup provided for a
27:56backup mode of operation in case the
27:59normal Myrtle system failed and the
28:01command module still for overboard um
28:03but they did have a reservoir on board
28:06the LEM for the draining out of the seat
28:09on the lunar surface we had six bags
28:13about this size in the limb beyond that
28:18we had the three II CDs which are a
28:20bladder pieces of apparatus that we each
28:24wear normally under the seat and that
28:27was about only the only natural sort of
28:31gear we had for this sort of storage so
28:35we looked around and in the limb we have
28:39a tank that's mounted in back of where
28:43the flight data file is located on the
28:47left side it's called a press conference
28:50a tank and its purposes when you're
28:53refilling the pluses on a lunar surface
28:56some of the water that's outside the the
28:58water vessel as allowed is allowed to
29:02escape and it's supposed to drain into
29:05this tank so we had enough for
29:09fortunately enough for combinations of
29:12hoses and a quick disconnects between
29:15the two vehicles used in both limb and
29:18command module gear that we found a
29:21combination that we could hook up our
29:24UCD's to the fitting that went to this
29:27tank so that that savers for a little
29:31while then after that one got full we
29:36looked around some more and we'd come
29:38across two bags fairly large banks or
29:41about that long
29:43and their purpose was after the first
29:46deviate in fact there was one of them I
29:49showed on the TV show we were to use
29:53these bags to drain the remaining water
29:55out of the buses and determine actually
29:58how much water we had left so again this
30:01turned out to be a rather weird the page
30:05to get to drain into that bag I think
30:07with later on you may may get to see
30:10that that piece of gear but didn't
30:12involve the use of a six-foot-long hose
30:15with the T in the middle hooked up to
30:17this bag and so we succeeded in using
30:22both of those large bags for storage
30:28short the end so you see that survival
30:35now became one of initiative and
30:39ingenuity and and it was one which the
30:42ground continually helped us along we
30:44had all kinds of people on the ground
30:46trying to think of ways of extending our
30:49lifetime we are also thinking of ways of
30:52using perhaps the police system to use
30:54it for oxygen or the or our burden sea
30:57oxygen supply in case we ran out but as
31:00the flight progressed the ground
31:02calculating are consumables saw that we
31:06are actually using less power less water
31:08less oxygen and our lithium hydroxide
31:11canisters were holding up quite well so
31:13it was it was getting better all the
31:16time fortunately we did power down
31:19everything though and about 105 hours
31:21the ground after some tracking realized
31:23that we were not on a trajectory that
31:25would get us safely back home and that
31:28we'd have to make another maneuver by
31:32this time the the crew stations became a
31:36lot different there are three people in
31:38the lunar module now usually built for
31:40two because the cold had driven jack
31:42away from the command module and Jack's
31:45normal position was on top the asset
31:47engine can overseeing what Fred and I
31:49were doing this last maneuver was
31:52unique because we did not have the
31:55platform powered up so we didn't have a
31:57normal method of determining the
31:58attitude of the spacecraft in order to
32:00perform the burn on Apollo 8 some time
32:05ago we were concerned with perhaps
32:07losing a platform on the return voyage
32:09home and since no one had ever made a
32:11lunar trip before we were looking at
32:14sort of way out ways of determining how
32:16we could make these Corrections home and
32:18some of our people here at MSC had come
32:20up with an idea about using the
32:22Terminator of the earth to orient the
32:25spacecraft and then the Sun position to
32:28get orientation and pitch and with that
32:30knowledge we could then make corrections
32:33to do correct our angle of entry into
32:36the atmosphere and as as you know I
32:39think that the end the angle of entry
32:41into the atmosphere is a very small
32:43angle only about two degrees and so it
32:45has to be controlled very closely and
32:47that's what the main tracking is for so
32:50105 hours they gave us instructions to
32:52rewrite the decent engine to orient the
32:57spacecraft in this manner and give this
32:59particular procedure a try and when they
33:02read up the procedure to us I just
33:03couldn't believe it because even on
33:05Apollo 8 I thought I'd never in all the
33:07world have to use something way out as
33:09this and here I was on Apollo 13 using
33:12this very same procedure that was
33:13developed some time ago this maneuver
33:18again was completed on time and because
33:20it was a manual burn we had a three-man
33:22operation jack would take care of the
33:25time he'd tell us when to light off the
33:26engine when to stop it Fred handled
33:29pitch maneuver I handled the roll roll
33:31maneuver and I pushed the buttons to
33:32start and stop the engine so maybe we
33:34ought to recommend a three-man lemon
33:36after this I don't know again after this
33:41maneuver we were again powered down and
33:44it became one of just merely hanging on
33:45are our maneuvers from that I were
33:49merely drifting and they were done to
33:51keep the the thermal control on the
33:54spacecraft as even as possible so that
33:56once I wouldn't cool off too much of
33:58this I wouldn't heat up and our flight
34:01progressed that way down to
34:03about five hours prior to entry whereby
34:08throughout the night and throughout
34:09throughout the days as prior to this
34:11saying that ground of course was working
34:12feverishly with crews and the simulators
34:15and with the engineers looking at the
34:18systems to read up to us a set of
34:20procedures which we would be able to
34:23follow to make a successful entry and I
34:29I kind of think one of the most
34:30important points that can be made of
34:31this flight is the cooperation and the
34:33coordination and the the initiative that
34:38people have when suddenly faced with an
34:40unusual situation that can respond to
34:44come up with the answers and they did
34:48they read us up procedures Fred Jack and
34:51I practice these procedures by reading
34:55them and then completed them I think
34:57it's a it's amazing the way that people
34:59can respond so fast to get this job done
35:01we were in a different situation now
35:03because probably when you'd come home
35:05you have only the command and service
35:07module so the only thing we have to get
35:09rid of is this service module just prior
35:11to entry of the atmosphere coming home
35:14now though we had a dead service module
35:16we had a command module that had no
35:18power to it we had a lunar module that
35:21was a wonderful vehicle to travel home
35:25with but didn't have a heat shield on
35:26full unfortunately and and surely we'd
35:29have to abandon it
35:31our procedure basically was at about
35:34five hours to make another short
35:36mid-course Corrections rule again change
35:39the angle to make sure we had a good
35:40angle of entry and then at about four
35:44and a half hours to maneuver to a
35:48position to get rid of the service
35:50module and Jack wants to discuss a
35:52little bit gain the ground and read up a
35:54very very nice timeline for the whole
35:58procedures for as far as the command
36:00module went from six and a half hours
36:01through splashdown and the
36:05the part about four and a half hours was
36:09where we jettison the service module the
36:12the only I guess nervous moment that we
36:17had at that point of time as the normal
36:19procedures require we have an extensive
36:22auto Technic system in this spacecraft
36:27and the normal procedures require arming
36:30the logic buses first and letting
36:32Houston look at all the relays to make
36:35sure that all relays indeed have latched
36:37up properly so that we don't jettison or
36:41fire a protective pyrotechnic device
36:43that we don't which we don't want to at
36:46this point in time we didn't have any
36:49any telemetry with Houston and Fred came
36:53up and I said well Fred I'm already
36:55ready to jettison the service module
36:57just gonna better get ready to arm the
36:59Pyro's and he said I'll get a goal from
37:01misfit I says Fred we don't have any
37:03telemetry with miss Finn so you're just
37:05gonna have to put your fingers in your
37:07ears and stand by so I arm the a system
37:10and I could hear the relays and nothing
37:13happened and i armed the B system and
37:15nothing happened so I kind of felt we
37:17were home free meanwhile I'm back in the
37:19lab with an open tunnel hoping that
37:20nothing happens
37:22and the procedure went well we used a
37:27push-pull method and Jim and Fred were
37:30in the LEM and using the translation
37:34controller to give us some velocity and
37:36when Jim yelled fire I'd jettison the
37:38service muzzle and and it went off we've
37:41missed a lot of debris which is usual
37:43and Jim began to pitch around to try and
37:46photograph it you might read you might
37:49tell him but then the truck you got the
37:52first look - yeah well the ground had
37:56told us that the best view of the
37:57service module as soon as we jettisoned
37:59it was through the number-5 window this
38:00was in the command module it's one of
38:02these side windows so as soon as Jack
38:05had jettisoned the service module he
38:08went over the number-5 window well the
38:10force of the jettison had pitched the
38:13rest of it you might see what we have
38:15now we got rid of all this and so now we
38:17have the command module and the lunar
38:18module together which is an unusual
38:20combination we've never flown this
38:22before it forced the lunar module to
38:24pitch down rather than go straight and
38:27instead of pitching up right away I
38:29couldn't see it so and Jack couldn't see
38:31it so then I finally started pitching up
38:33and through this overhead window this
38:35this jockey window up here I finally
38:38caught sight of the the lunar lodge of
38:41the service module as it tumbles around
38:43in view and it was - may sort of an
38:47amazing sight I didn't realize that this
38:50whole panel why the high gain antenna
38:53was blown clean off right along the area
38:58where the panel normally swings open I
39:00could see the interior I couldn't see
39:04exactly what was damaged I could see but
39:06Jill hanging out from the interior and
39:09about that time because my description
39:12wouldn't be half as good as a good
39:14photograph I reached for my camera we
39:16had three cameras and I started taking
39:18pictures through this little banking
39:20window Jack then knowing that he didn't
39:23see anything from his window started to
39:26come down through the tunnel to the lab
39:28and Fred meanwhile had got his cameras
39:31ready and the spacecraft ever
39:33to a point where the service module was
39:35then visible in the front window and
39:39fred was taking pictures and jack was
39:41taking pictures of the service module
39:43trying to capture some of the damage
39:45that that we could see the remainder of
39:53the flight went just as the ground had
39:55told us to do it we had kept in that
40:00position I had gotten an alignment which
40:02from the earth and the from the moon and
40:05the Sun which was good enough to
40:07transfer back to Jack an alignment a
40:11rough alignment so that he could get a
40:13very fine alignment in the in the
40:15command module and at two-and-a-half
40:17hours he started powering up and getting
40:19this alignment and my only thought that
40:22was as I was sitting by myself inside
40:24the lunar module I could see the earth
40:26because it was a nice big triangular
40:28window well Fred and Jack were powering
40:30up the command module and even though
40:32maybe wasn't those Apple to me it looked
40:33like he was getting bigger and bigger
40:34and bigger and I kept yelling back to
40:37Jack how are you coming are you doing
40:38fine
40:39you know when can I leave Aquarius he
40:45was a little bit nervous he when he say
40:47was kept asking he kept saying Jack how
40:49you comin the earth is getting bigger
40:51[Music]
40:53I think he was trying to hurry me but I
40:56don't know but Jack did a fine job he
40:58got a very good alignment which was I
41:00think accountable for some of our good
41:03automatic guidance into a landings and
41:06finally when he got the alignment and
41:09all powered up I by that time the lunar
41:12module looked like they just like a
41:14packed garbage can we had the big bug in
41:17the probe big bags full of debris that
41:21we had accumulated during the six days
41:22and I then went from the lunar module
41:26close the hatch came on down and we
41:29jettisoned the lunar module and that
41:31came on in with a recovery which I think
41:35that you people saw better on TV than we
41:37felt in the spacecraft it's like oh yes
41:43well we have one picture which we
41:46thought that fed my showing their
41:57lithium hydroxide cannister there the
42:00whole building removers to see is still
42:02a couple of red lights on them upstairs
42:11the point in the foreground which you
42:13can see is the hose hose arrangement I
42:17discussed earlier draining into the
42:20suppress bag this is the long object
42:23yeah what a collection bag the other
42:27point I hope to show yet now maybe some
42:29trip it up right in the background here
42:32is the the modification we made to the
42:36ECF system whereby we used the lithium
42:39hydroxide canisters out of the a command
42:42module and with the use of plastic and
42:45some of our onboard data that slipped
42:48cardboard from some of the procedures we
42:51didn't need and gray tape we have on
42:55board we jury read that this thing with
42:58the plenum to dilemma EPS intake hose
43:04and this shows only a one enough one the
43:09cube on later on we further martyred and
43:12ended up with a stack of got two on that
43:15one it's hose and I assume we sort of
43:19except for the geometry has continued to
43:21do so up indefinitely pages described
43:26the home-built carbon dioxide removal
43:29system which was put together on the
43:32lunar module just start right here
43:40questions from reporters know here at
43:43the manned spacecraft Center lining up
43:48on the earth and the Sun when you were
43:51coming down at manual business of a line
43:54of platform and particularly again about
43:56when the when a supercritical helium
43:59tank burst I understand when he did non
44:02propulsive maneuver you were suddenly
44:03rocking in the right way well we there
44:09was a lot of unfortunate incidents in 13
44:12that would make it a completely unlucky
44:15flight we at the time it happened I
44:18thought was the worst possible time
44:20obviously it was not the worst possible
44:21time for this particular incident to
44:23happen we were lucky in the fact that we
44:27that we had a base support that was well
44:32receptive to immediate organization and
44:36gave us the the problems and the
44:39procedures to continue that we were
44:41extremely lucky in we found out that we
44:46could operate the spacecraft and do
44:49procedures with a lot less systems than
44:52we anticipated I was very reluctant to
44:55turn off the guidance system the
44:57platform because I knew that once I did
45:00that and we could not see stars outside
45:02the windows especially because of the
45:04debris that was lying out there and
45:05venting from the service module that I
45:09would be very difficult to get an
45:10alignment on my own these are areas I
45:13think that that we were lucky in captain
45:17level what did you have in mind when you
45:20made a remark I think this is gonna be
45:23the last moon flight for a long time
45:26that's a good question we were of course
45:29you must realize our positions we were
45:31going around the moon we didn't know
45:32what happened and we looked at the moon
45:35I I had been there and Fred and Jack
45:38we're taking pictures because regardless
45:40of anything they were upon to take
45:41pictures and I said come on we have a
45:42burn to go in two minutes or two hours
45:45at that time not knowing what we're
45:48gonna do and they were getting as many
45:50pictures as possible I had perhaps
45:52thought that maybe this was going to be
45:53the last moon flight for a long time but
45:56looking back on our now and looking back
45:58on the way that that NASA has responded
46:01in helping us get home and analyzing the
46:03thing I don't believe that anymore I
46:08think it's gonna be one where we can
46:10analyze our problems and I foresee that
46:13we can get this incident over with and
46:16can charge ahead I wouldn't be scared to
46:20fly with the fix Jim speaking that
46:24subject flying again you told us this
46:26was going to be your last flight but
46:28that you did
46:29a walk on the moon before giving up
46:32flying how do you feel now would you
46:34want to go back and take a crack at
46:35Apollo 14 15 16 or is Maryland
46:38[Music]
46:41well I'm very much disappointed just as
46:44fred is and the jack that we couldn't
46:46complete the mission we we certainly
46:48wanted to to make a lunar landing farmer
46:52has so much to offer we thought we spent
46:55a lawful lot of time on it but this was
46:57my fourth spaceflight and there are many
47:00people in our organization who have not
47:02flown and who deserve to fly and who are
47:04talented enough to fly and on my own
47:09they deserve the mission if they if they
47:14feel that that this team should go back
47:16there I'm certainly willing to go back
47:19but otherwise that I think other people
47:23ought to do it you are ready to go back
47:26you don't feel cheated if you don't go
47:28back no I would like to have landed on
47:31the moon but I feel that perhaps what we
47:34got out of this flight was also well
47:36worth it
47:36I've been level in that connection we
47:39were told at all the briefings before
47:40this flight that Apollo 13s flight plan
47:43was a very important one not only for
47:45the science you would get off the moon
47:47but also because of the Pathfinder
47:49photography that you would do subsequent
47:52to the landing now I'm wondering if in
47:54your mind you think that it will be
47:56necessary to reflow profile and if so
48:01what crew would be better qualified for
48:03it than the one which has trained for it
48:05for three years let me answer that
48:09question sort of backwards as I said the
48:11beginning of the conference that two
48:13days noticed that Jack's like at replace
48:15Ken manually Ken I think was pressed
48:19when the most conscientious pilots that
48:21we have in our space program he really
48:24knew that command modulae he knew the
48:25flight plan of Apollo 13 better than
48:27anybody the jack could replace him and
48:31could do a good job I think that it's
48:33not so much an individual crew anymore
48:35and that's I think any crew that was put
48:38together can do any job and if the
48:42scientists feel that fra mauro is is
48:44necessary to revisit then i think that
48:46any crew that happened to be assigned to
48:48that particular mission can take what we
48:51have already done and we have done a lot
48:53of groundwork on fran tomorrow and
48:55improve upon it perhaps and do a good
48:58job just to follow up are you saying
49:01then that Young Mattingly and Duke would
49:05be a good crew to fly Apollo 13 and do
49:10you think Apollo 13 should be rieflin
49:12which was reading my basic question well
49:15you're basically asking the wrong person
49:17first of all I'm not in the selection of
49:20people who fly spacecraft and second of
49:22all I'm not in the scientific area to
49:24find out we're just what areas should be
49:26revisited so obviously we have lost one
49:28lunar landing we didn't make it
49:30if Franois was worth it an hour an hour
49:34training from all had a lot to offer
49:36then we should go back there bootstrap
49:38photography is very important we should
49:40do that but this is up for larger
49:46decisions and longer leade decisions I
49:49wonder if the two newcomers to the moon
49:52could just tell us whether they had any
49:55impressions of it as they went whizzing
49:56by well we've we've already been told by
50:03Jim what color it is
50:04[Music]
50:12but no I think my impression of it as we
50:17passed the closest we guy was 137 miles
50:20and I think I haven't bought the same
50:23impressions as the men who visited
50:26previously that it's very stark it's
50:30desolate it's it's almost awesome and
50:34it's desolation and we didn't get the
50:40chance because we were gonna be doing a
50:42burn to really do any real detailed
50:46looking at it but I guess that would be
50:49my summation of my feelings that it was
50:52almost awesome in its desolation many
50:56implications if any could this accident
51:00of Apollo 13 have on future Apollo
51:03missions and deep space missions SATA
51:05Mars or Venus
51:16well I'm not sure there is any sort of
51:20direct correlation and I can think of
51:24with the exception of maybe bringing
51:28home rather early some of the problems
51:31and concerned with power down modes of
51:34operation and making sure an
51:38environmental control system can work
51:40equally well to keep their occupants
51:43comfortable what both for a normal
51:46operating power levels as well as
51:48emergency sort of power levels Jim you
51:57said you people on TV you thought better
52:00recovery than we felt in the spacecraft
52:02can each other three of you comment on
52:04what your feelings were during her time
52:07love splice down well of course when we
52:12hit the water we were we were very happy
52:14to be back home and we commented on that
52:16fact the recovery of thirteen was almost
52:23textbook recovery it was calm day the
52:26the actual splashdown itself was very
52:29mild and the Navy did a grand job and
52:36I'm not prejudiced of course but we were
52:41of course disappointed that we did not
52:43complete the mission
52:48how about
52:51how about the other two of you telling
52:56us how you feel about flying again what
52:58this experiences meant in terms of your
53:01professional careers I I think that what
53:06this has done for me if anything has
53:10increased my confidence in the ability
53:12of this nation space program to take an
53:17unusual situation and react to it and
53:21come out with a successful conclusion I
53:24consider recovery of this crew
53:27successful conclusion but I have I have
53:31nothing but the utmost admiration for
53:34the people on the ground who work
53:36tirelessly get us back I guess I might
53:43answer that by saying sometime this year
53:48I'll have had 15 years with NASA and I
53:51don't figure it all we're tired for
53:53another 30 maybe so I'll just do
53:57whatever whatever job the agency decides
54:01it's the best place I can be and to
54:04contribute the most getting Louisville
54:07was there ever a moment when you were
54:09any other member of your crew thought
54:11you did not have enough consumables to
54:13make it back in those first hours and if
54:15so what were your feelings well as I
54:19said they're our feelings very during
54:21out during the emergency there were
54:25moments when I didn't know how much
54:26consumables we had whether we could make
54:28it back or not but in a situation like
54:32that there's only one thing you can do
54:33you just keep going and you just keep
54:36thinking up where you get were
54:37consumables and so that's exactly what
54:41we did you made any recommendations thus
54:46far on changes and procedures or
54:49redesign of equipment based on your
54:53no we haven't I all this will be taking
54:56place in the ensuing weeks while looking
55:03at the service module after you jettison
55:06that one of you said an hour quotient I
55:09think the explosion from what I could
55:11see Joe had stages what made you think
55:15so and do you still think so
55:22stages the explosion stages I don't
55:26recall that incident I I was the first
55:29one to see it I said it looked like a
55:30mess and that I can see the panel
55:32missing but I don't recall any other
55:35comments my mates
55:45thank you gentlemen all the time that
55:49you were in trouble coming back you were
55:51obviously extremely grateful and you've
55:54told it again and again for the
55:56cooperation of the ground crew and
55:58rightly so naturally where was there an
56:01awareness are the same sort of an
56:04awareness of the infinite power watching
56:07over you and caring where to get down
56:09were you aware of that you're asking me
56:13whether I prayed I certainly did and I
56:17have no doubt that perhaps my prayers
56:20and the prayers of the rest of the
56:21people did an awful lot contributed an
56:23awful lot for us getting back John
56:28Lennon at one point just prior to the
56:32two jettisoning the limb it there was a
56:36comment about the flight plan being read
56:38up to you and it was akin to reading war
56:41and peace over the air I'm wondering
56:43what it must have been like to take it
56:44down in a spacecraft where at one point
56:46someone also said they were running out
56:48of flight plan pads this this was the I
56:53assume the procedure in the command
56:55module which was quite lengthy because
56:57one of the things I think that did this
56:59evident from this thing is we really
57:01threw away the book we had never powered
57:02down a command module in space and we
57:05had never reactivated one and we wanted
57:09to get it right and so I read back every
57:11switch and every circuit breaker and it
57:15was a lengthy procedure it was one that
57:17was worked out and verified by the
57:19ground and its success I think is well
57:22documented Jim did you notice any
57:26unusual vibration with a s2 or the j2
57:29shut down and if so could it have any
57:31effect at all on the service module
57:33trouble well we did notice an unusual
57:36vibration just prior to or just during
57:39the number-5 engine on the s2 shutting
57:42down during the boost phase I doubt
57:45seriously if it had any trouble with the
57:47certain and
57:48you know gave me trouble the service
57:50module but I have no evidence to to say
57:52yes or no event a question for whoever
57:56wants to answer it would you tell us
57:58twice during the mission you made you
58:00ask the ground if the flowers were
58:01blooming in Houston yet apparently this
58:03was a code would someone explain that
58:06and then the second question is for
58:08captain level there's a movement in
58:10Wisconsin apparently growing now to
58:13nominate you to run against Senator
58:15William Proxmire and we're wondering if
58:17you would comment on that yeah the the
58:25first question
58:27it was a again a sort of a code you're
58:30right that we had worked out with our
58:33Capcom's really in ants asking a
58:38question about cannons condition as to
58:41whether did come down with the measles
58:43yet or not
58:46and we're still waiting for Ken to come
58:48down with the music Jim what about your
58:55political jack would you answer that
59:01question no I don't have any political
59:04affiliations in the state of Wisconsin
59:06at this moment when you saw the damage
59:10that was done the service module were
59:12there any fears that the heat shield
59:13might have been damaged by that I had no
59:19qualms about at the time I guess I
59:22really wasn't thinking along those lines
59:24because I knew that we were reentering
59:27very shortly and that regardless of the
59:29damage to the heat shield that mean it
59:30was gonna have you had to take it or not
59:32take it I had no qualms at all heat
59:35Childers is I don't know whether you're
59:37aware how thick it is but it takes an
59:39awful lot to damage that and I I had no
59:41qualms at all Jim you had were faced
59:45with a perhaps as precise flying job as
59:50you ever will face yet you say you had
59:52to fly the limb a completely new method
59:55what do you elaborate a little bit on
59:56how you and Fred worked this out well
59:59the methods of flying the stock as you
1:00:01see it here have been worked out before
1:00:03a bike bike crews in a procedure which
1:00:05we normally practice for and that is in
1:00:09runer orbit as we were slowing down to
1:00:11go into lunar orbit with this complete
1:00:12stack if something happened to the
1:00:14propulsion system on the main engine we
1:00:17might have to use the descent propulsion
1:00:20system engine to get us back home again
1:00:22this is called a dips burn and to
1:00:25control this system if the automatic
1:00:29control is not working requires this
1:00:31translation controller fred and i had
1:00:33practice that like previous crews and
1:00:35that's the way we flew this particular
1:00:37device but in part of our power down
1:00:41sequence we had to we had to power down
1:00:44the attitude balls the
1:00:46the FDA is as we call them and because
1:00:50our platforms an Apollo r3 gimbal type
1:00:53platforms that could go into what we
1:00:54call a gimbal lock and we can lose our
1:00:56alignment that way we had to make sure
1:00:58the spacecraft didn't in this gyrations
1:01:00get near that area we had a look at the
1:01:02computer which readout this these
1:01:04various angles and it wasn't obvious how
1:01:07to fly it by looking at this computer as
1:01:08it was by looking at the FDA I yet
1:01:13willing to fly just the command module
1:01:16and the lab we found out that they had a
1:01:18two controller itself was adequate to
1:01:20control the vehicle and the response
1:01:21that you want it to do this was a new
1:01:24mode of operation I don't recall of
1:01:27having practice in the simulator before
1:01:29and I certainly know when it's ever
1:01:30flown it in flight before but it the
1:01:32attitude control itself worked quite
1:01:34well that in the light of the experience
1:01:39you had on this flight it would be
1:01:41advisable in the future to always remain
1:01:43on a free return trajectory or do you
1:01:46think that would limit future flights
1:01:47too much to a particular time or place
1:01:51well I think it probably limit our our
1:01:53flight operations somewhat on free
1:01:55return trajectory and I think the fact
1:01:57that we were not on one when the
1:01:59incident occurred and the fact that we
1:02:01could get back on one indicates that
1:02:03it's not required to stay on wondering
1:02:05what of our lunar missions I'd like to
1:02:11ask Jack Swigert as the last-minute
1:02:15substitution did you at any time have
1:02:17any doubt of your ability to step in 24
1:02:22hours before and fly the aircraft or
1:02:26spacecraft no not really my only
1:02:30apprehension that I have of course as
1:02:33Jim says is that you you work together
1:02:35as a crew and I had had I haven't had
1:02:40much experience I just worked with Jim
1:02:42once or twice Jim and Fred once or twice
1:02:45previous we did find that the two days
1:02:49we had working together that we did
1:02:52almost everything the same and once this
1:02:55was determined I had
1:02:56apprehension at all I felt that it was
1:02:58my job to get Jim and Fred there
1:03:00arrested I felt I could do that I felt I
1:03:02could accomplish the majority of the
1:03:05orbital science objectives of the flight
1:03:08and I felt that we had a good mission
1:03:11and we could do it all Captain novel did
1:03:15you consider at the time and do you
1:03:17consider now that this could have been a
1:03:19meteorite strike or something internal
1:03:22this thought crossed our minds that it
1:03:25could have been a meteorite and I really
1:03:28don't have a complete answer whether it
1:03:30was or not except for the fact that the
1:03:32panel was completely missing which
1:03:33indicated that whatever went in must
1:03:35have caused a larger bang to blow the
1:03:38panel completely out and that's that's
1:03:40all I know about so far a gem after two
1:03:44days of debriefing could you give us
1:03:46your estimate of the best probable cause
1:03:48of the wire of blue your oxygen tank and
1:03:52ended your mission of the moon I don't
1:03:56think I can I don't think to because our
1:04:00debriefing so far have been from the
1:04:02crews point of view it's unique but we
1:04:05were only a few feet away from the
1:04:07accident but the people on the ground
1:04:09had a lot more information by telemetry
1:04:13than we had concerning pressures and
1:04:16temperatures and possible causes of the
1:04:18accident and have perhaps a better
1:04:21indication right now than we do of
1:04:23exactly what caused it refer to whether
1:04:28the Apollo 13 crew might fly again to
1:04:31get to Fra Mauro
1:04:32we're informed today that that such
1:04:36discussion did take place at debriefing
1:04:38and I wonder if you could confirm this
1:04:40and tell us under what circumstances it
1:04:42did no discussion of that nature had
1:04:46taken place at any debriefing as I said
1:04:49if the agency wants this crew to go back
1:04:52to from Morrow we'll be glad to go if
1:04:55they decide to send another crew or not
1:04:57to go too far mile that's their decision
1:05:00we'll go to all three astronauts
1:05:03physically speaking what hardship did
1:05:06you suffer most from was it the cold or
1:05:08was it lack of sleep or was it cramped
1:05:11conditions in the name physical
1:05:22hardships for you was it too cold or was
1:05:25it the lack of sleep or uncomfortable
1:05:28position in the name well it certainly
1:05:32was a combination of although the
1:05:33overpowering one was the slow chill down
1:05:36until about the last you know 15 16
1:05:41hours it was just well we were just
1:05:44chill down to the bone from there on in
1:05:46and we really didn't get warmed up until
1:05:50we went through the power up and started
1:05:52getting a limb back up and and that
1:05:56started getting uncomfortable again
1:05:59along with this hardship of lack of
1:06:04sleep at at least two occasions it was
1:06:07recommended that you might want to take
1:06:09a stimulant at dexedrine tablet did you
1:06:12do anything to get yourself up with the
1:06:15reentry we took dexedrine just prior to
1:06:21reentry we didn't want to take it too
1:06:24early because I was afraid that with the
1:06:26whiteness from my condition was the lack
1:06:28of sleep that if the effects wore off
1:06:31I'd be in worse condition than I was
1:06:32right there then and I am and I didn't
1:06:36feel too tired you work a lot of nervous
1:06:38energy in this particular situation I
1:06:41didn't want to suddenly get exhausted
1:06:43whereby I
1:06:44wasn't in good shape I'd like to address
1:06:48this question dis Jack Swaggart this is
1:06:53a lighter question
1:06:55has anyone nominated you as Bachelor of
1:06:58the Year being the first bachelor to go
1:07:00in space no ma'am they have it I think
1:07:06on that profound question we'll knock it
1:07:09off now thank you very much
1:07:25do not blow it
1:07:29[Music]
1:07:48[Music]
1:07:51I don't know how the network
1:07:55yeah
1:08:04you

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