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  1. 0:00How are you feeling mentally right now?
  2. 0:02Do you feel peaceful, happy, and
  3. 0:04satisfied with your life?
  4. 0:07Or do you feel restless, tense, and
  5. 0:09chronically stressed?
  6. 0:12I ask this because one of the most
  7. 0:14dangerous consequences of chronic stress
  8. 0:17is that it leads to depression, and
  9. 0:19statistics tell us that one in every 10
  10. 0:21to 20 individuals over the age of 18
  11. 0:23watching this video is currently
  12. 0:25depressed, and I suspect a significant
  13. 0:27portion of these people are also taking
  14. 0:29antidepressants regularly.
  15. 0:32Because statistics indicate that in
  16. 0:35Turkey, one in every 10 people may be
  17. 0:37taking antidepressants.
  18. 0:40I don't know the exact numbers for
  19. 0:42Turkey, but in the United States alone,
  20. 0:44more than 100 million prescriptions were
  21. 0:46written for three different types of
  22. 0:48antidepressants in 2024.
  23. 0:51Think about that. 100 million. So, do
  24. 0:54these drugs actually work? I mean, when
  25. 0:57you take these medications, do you feel
  26. 0:59your depression subsiding?
  27. 1:01Or are you among those who have tried
  28. 1:03these drugs and didn't see any benefit?
  29. 1:06Do we really know how antidepressants
  30. 1:10work?
  31. 1:11Let's take a look.
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  51. 1:52antidepressants.
  52. 1:56Depression is an extremely insidious and
  53. 1:59cruel mental illness that causes people
  54. 2:02to feel sad and empty and to lose
  55. 2:04interest in life.
  56. 2:07Of course, we call them all depression,
  57. 2:08but there isn't actually just one
  58. 2:10clinical picture of depression.
  59. 2:12There are many types, such as major
  60. 2:15depressive disorder, depression
  61. 2:17accompanying bipolar disorder, prenatal
  62. 2:19or postpartum depression, and psychotic
  63. 2:22depression; and behind each of these
  64. 2:24different types of depression lie
  65. 2:26biological factors like brain chemistry
  66. 2:28, brain structure, family history, and
  67. 2:31genetics; psychological factors such as
  68. 2:33personality traits, the ability to cope
  69. 2:36with difficulties, or post-traumatic
  70. 2:38stress disorder;
  71. 2:41and social and environmental factors
  72. 2:43like substance abuse or traumatic and
  73. 2:45stressful life events.
  74. 2:47But this video is not about depression.
  75. 2:50Today, we will focus on antidepressants
  76. 2:52.
  77. 2:54But for those who are curious, I'm
  78. 2:56leaving a few of our articles on
  79. 2:57depression below, and if you would like
  80. 2:59to see a video about depression, you can
  81. 3:01send it to me directly via the video
  82. 3:03section in the mobile app I just
  83. 3:05mentioned.
  84. 3:07Because depression itself is the subject
  85. 3:09of another video.
  86. 3:11Now, let me say this right from the
  87. 3:12start.
  88. 3:13We do not know how antidepressants work
  89. 3:15.
  90. 3:16Yes.
  91. 3:18Even though they are prescribed to
  92. 3:20hundreds of millions of people every
  93. 3:21year, we have not yet fully deciphered
  94. 3:23which of the changes they create in our
  95. 3:25bodies is the one that affects us.
  96. 3:29I know this sounds terrible, but
  97. 3:30actually, this is not considered very
  98. 3:32abnormal for medicine.
  99. 3:34For example, we still do not know
  100. 3:36exactly how the most common anesthetic
  101. 3:38agents used in surgeries work.
  102. 3:40In fact, never mind these sophisticated
  103. 3:42drugs. We still haven't fully solved how
  104. 3:45an ordinary painkiller like paracetamol
  105. 3:47—which I mentioned to you before in the
  106. 3:50context of autism and which you know as
  107. 3:53Parol—actually works. And these are used
  108. 3:55much, much more widely in modern
  109. 3:57medicine than antidepressants. I will
  110. 4:00get to why we don't yet know how these
  111. 4:03common drugs work in just a moment.
  112. 4:06But first, how can it be that we don't
  113. 4:11know how these drugs, which are just
  114. 4:16chemical substances, function?
  115. 4:21Just like water, air, or the food we eat
  116. 4:24. And like every chemical substance,
  117. 4:27when drugs enter our bodies, they cause
  118. 4:30various changes by binding to other
  119. 4:33molecules, altering them, or reacting
  120. 4:35with them to create new products.
  121. 4:39Since we are all members of the same
  122. 4:41species, and more importantly, since
  123. 4:44more than 99%of our DNA is exactly the
  124. 4:47same, the changes a chemical creates in
  125. 4:49our bodies are generally more or less
  126. 4:52the same.
  127. 4:54Therefore, when we take 100 people with
  128. 4:57similar characteristics, give a drug to
  129. 5:0050 of them, and withhold it from the
  130. 5:02other 50, we can generally understand
  131. 5:05the drug's effects on our species by
  132. 5:07looking at the changes in the biology,
  133. 5:10psychology, and physiology of these two
  134. 5:13groups after a certain period.
  135. 5:16This is essentially what we call a
  136. 5:18controlled experiment in science.
  137. 5:21And even if controlled experiments
  138. 5:23cannot show the exact mechanism by which
  139. 5:26a drug acts, they allow us to understand
  140. 5:28whether that drug has any effect and, if
  141. 5:31so, to what extent.
  142. 5:34That is why we can use drugs on a large
  143. 5:36scale and get results from them even if
  144. 5:38we don't fully know their mechanisms.
  145. 5:42This is exactly why your headache goes
  146. 5:44away almost every time you take
  147. 5:45paracetamol when you have a headache.
  148. 5:49Or this is exactly why the anesthetic
  149. 5:50agent is able to put you to sleep every
  150. 5:52time you lie on the operating table, no
  151. 5:54matter what you do.
  152. 5:56We are not sure about their mechanisms,
  153. 5:58but we are sure that they work. And this
  154. 6:01is not actually something unique to
  155. 6:03medicine. For example, in physics, we
  156. 6:05don't know how wave function collapse or
  157. 6:08entanglement works, but we know their
  158. 6:10effects very well. Therefore, we can use
  159. 6:13them in our engineering.
  160. 6:15So much so that the motto of the
  161. 6:16classical interpretation of quantum
  162. 6:18mechanics, which I told you about before
  163. 6:19, is "shut up and calculate."
  164. 6:21In other words, don't get hung up on
  165. 6:23whether it's the parallel universe
  166. 6:24interpretation of quantum or the Bohmian
  167. 6:26interpretation. Just do your calculation
  168. 6:28and move on. They say what matters is
  169. 6:30that the calculation works. Anyway. Of
  170. 6:32course, the fact that we don't fully
  171. 6:35know a drug's mechanism doesn't mean we
  172. 6:37don't know anything about it.
  173. 6:40For instance, we know that Parol can
  174. 6:42reduce the activity of cyclooxygenase
  175. 6:44enzymes and the production of
  176. 6:46prostaglandin.
  177. 6:47And it is thought that these effects
  178. 6:49contribute to the relief of pain. But
  179. 6:52the p-aminophenol, which can be formed
  180. 6:54by the breakdown of the same molecule in
  181. 6:57our liver, can combine with arachidonic
  182. 7:00acid in our nervous system via an enzyme
  183. 7:02called fatty acid amide hydrolase to
  184. 7:05transform into another chemical called
  185. 7:07AM404.
  186. 7:09This molecule might also suppress pain
  187. 7:11transmission by stimulating TRPV1
  188. 7:13receptors and indirectly strengthening
  189. 7:16cannabinoid signaling, or perhaps
  190. 7:18paracetamol itself activates
  191. 7:20serotonergic pathways to provide an
  192. 7:22increase in serotonin, thereby
  193. 7:24suppressing our sense of pain.
  194. 7:28You don't need to understand what these
  195. 7:30technical terms mean, but I can convey
  196. 7:32them to you this clearly because we know
  197. 7:34each of these different mechanisms
  198. 7:36inside and out very well.
  199. 7:39The problem is that we don't know which
  200. 7:41of these mechanisms is the primary one,
  201. 7:43whether several are working
  202. 7:45simultaneously, or if there is another
  203. 7:47mechanism involved that we have yet to
  204. 7:49discover.
  205. 7:50But we are sure that the drug somehow
  206. 7:52stops the pain. And we also know that
  207. 7:55this path is not through magic or
  208. 7:57sorcery. Therefore, research is ongoing
  209. 8:00.
  210. 8:01Another issue regarding these types of
  211. 8:03drugs is the matter of our DNA being 99
  212. 8:05%the same, which I just mentioned.
  213. 8:08This is actually completely true, but as
  214. 8:10we always talk about on this channel,
  215. 8:12biology is not a branch of science like
  216. 8:13physics.
  217. 8:15It is incredibly chaotic.
  218. 8:17In other words, changes in those 30
  219. 8:19million nucleotides—which is 1%of the 3
  220. 8:21billion nucleotides found in every cell
  221. 8:24in our body—when combined with the
  222. 8:26complex networks genes form with each
  223. 8:28other or with gene-environment
  224. 8:29interactions, can cause an individual to
  225. 8:32have a completely different physiology,
  226. 8:34anatomy, or psychology even from their
  227. 8:36own sibling.
  228. 8:38This can fundamentally change the effect
  229. 8:40that the exact same drug creates in the
  230. 8:42body.
  231. 8:44Therefore, a drug that works for one
  232. 8:45person might not create the same effect
  233. 8:47in another.
  234. 8:49Now let's come to antidepressants.
  235. 8:52Everything I've explained so far applies
  236. 8:54exactly to antidepressants as well.
  237. 8:57Look, until the 1950s, attempts were
  238. 8:59made to cure depression using methods
  239. 9:01like psychotherapy, developed by Sigmund
  240. 9:04Freud and his followers, and
  241. 9:06electroconvulsive therapy, which
  242. 9:07stimulates the brain electrically.
  243. 9:11The start of treating depression with
  244. 9:13medication actually arose from two
  245. 9:15completely unrelated medical
  246. 9:16coincidences.
  247. 9:19In 1952, during trials for a drug called
  248. 9:21iproniazid, originally developed for
  249. 9:23tuberculosis, an unexpected improvement
  250. 9:26in the mood of depressed patients taking
  251. 9:28the drug was noticed.
  252. 9:31Just 4 years after this discovery, the
  253. 9:33Swiss psychiatrist Roland Kuhn observed
  254. 9:35that a molecule called imipramine—which
  255. 9:38was actually being tested for allergic
  256. 9:40reactions and developed in the hope that
  257. 9:42it might have antipsychotic effects—
  258. 9:44created a revitalization in patients
  259. 9:46with depression.
  260. 9:49So, for the first time until that day,
  261. 9:50it was seen that a chemical administered
  262. 9:52to the body was good for an abstract
  263. 9:54disease like depression.
  264. 9:56In that case, there must have been brain
  265. 9:58chemistry behind depression. Don't you
  266. 10:00think? These two coincidences opened a
  267. 10:02brand new door in the history of
  268. 10:04neuroscience.
  269. 10:06Researchers discovered that these drugs
  270. 10:08affect neurotransmitters in the brain,
  271. 10:10such as serotonin and noradrenaline.
  272. 10:13As you know, neurotransmitters are small
  273. 10:15molecules that provide transmission
  274. 10:17between the connections called synapses
  275. 10:18that our brain cells make with each
  276. 10:20other.
  277. 10:21Following this discovery, years went by
  278. 10:24. That iproniazid and its derivatives
  279. 10:27turned into monoamine oxidase inhibitors
  280. 10:29, which prevent the breakdown of these
  281. 10:31chemicals I call neurotransmitters, and
  282. 10:33the other drug I mentioned, imipramine,
  283. 10:36turned into tricyclic antidepressants,
  284. 10:38which prevent these molecules from being
  285. 10:40reabsorbed from the synaptic cleft. As
  286. 10:42these drugs developed, what we didn't
  287. 10:45know about them started to increase as
  288. 10:47well.
  289. 10:48For example, the level of therapeutic
  290. 10:50power of tricyclic drugs like
  291. 10:52amitriptyline in severe melancholic
  292. 10:53depression has still not been fully
  293. 10:55understood to this day.
  294. 10:58But thanks to stable and persistent
  295. 11:00experiments, we managed to reinforce
  296. 11:02these drugs from different angles.
  297. 11:04For instance, these first-generation
  298. 11:06drugs I've mentioned so far worked
  299. 11:08literally like a shotgun in the brain.
  300. 11:11That is, they affect a very wide network
  301. 11:12of receptors.
  302. 11:14Due to their anticholinergic properties
  303. 11:16, they caused side effects like dry
  304. 11:18mouth and constipation, and they could
  305. 11:19affect heart rhythm.
  306. 11:22Consequently, severe headaches,
  307. 11:24dizziness, cognitive clouding, and, most
  308. 11:26importantly, fatal dangers in the event
  309. 11:29of an overdose could emerge.
  310. 11:31So, science needed a more sniper-like
  311. 11:34weapon.
  312. 11:36By the 1970s, scientists began to lean
  313. 11:38toward the idea that increasing
  314. 11:40serotonin transmission in our brain
  315. 11:42cells in a more selective manner could
  316. 11:44treat depression.
  317. 11:47This more narrowed-down, or rather, more
  318. 11:50sniper-like target gave birth to the
  319. 11:52first selective serotonin reuptake
  320. 11:54inhibitors, or by their famous name,
  321. 11:57SSRI-type drugs, in 1988.
  322. 11:59The name of that first drug was
  323. 12:01fluoxetine, or by its more famous name,
  324. 12:04Prozac.
  325. 12:05Prozac created a real revolution in
  326. 12:07antidepressants, but its greater success
  327. 12:10was triggering a cultural shift.
  328. 12:13Because back then, just as some people
  329. 12:16today mistakenly believe that obesity is
  330. 12:18caused by a lack of willpower or a lack
  331. 12:21of self-control, people at that time
  332. 12:23believed that the main cause of
  333. 12:25depression was such personal
  334. 12:27inadequacies.
  335. 12:30But as science showed that depression
  336. 12:32was an independent biological disease
  337. 12:34rather than a matter of individual
  338. 12:35choice, it began to break the
  339. 12:37stereotypical beliefs held by society
  340. 12:39about depression.
  341. 12:41Following this, throughout the 1990s,
  342. 12:43while the use of antidepressant drugs
  343. 12:45climbed rapidly, treatments like
  344. 12:47psychotherapy were increasingly pushed
  345. 12:48to the background.
  346. 12:51This trend resulted in the pendulum
  347. 12:53swinging too far in favor of
  348. 12:54pharmacology this time.
  349. 12:56People began to think as if depression
  350. 12:59was only related to a serotonin
  351. 13:01deficiency. Therefore, they believed
  352. 13:03that the treatment for depression should
  353. 13:05be just like the treatment for diabetes
  354. 13:07. I had told you about this before. At
  355. 13:09least in type 1 diabetes, insulin is
  356. 13:11deficient.
  357. 13:13So, we pump that missing insulin into
  358. 13:14the body, and the job is done.
  359. 13:17Well, they thought, if the deficiency in
  360. 13:18depression is also serotonin, then we
  361. 13:20will pump serotonin into the body, and
  362. 13:21the disease will pass.
  363. 13:24This tendency was further fueled,
  364. 13:26especially as the patents for
  365. 13:28antidepressant drugs expired by that
  366. 13:30time, leading to a drop in costs.
  367. 13:35In parallel, the number of depression
  368. 13:37cases gradually increased over the years
  369. 13:39due to reasons such as the breaking of
  370. 13:41prejudices against depression in many
  371. 13:43countries, the fact that diagnosis
  372. 13:45mostly relies on subjective judgments
  373. 13:47since it cannot be detected by a simple
  374. 13:49blood test or brain scan, the increase
  375. 13:51in economic and social crises over time
  376. 13:53, and the introduction of divisive
  377. 13:55technologies like social media into our
  378. 13:58lives.
  379. 14:00In addition, with the increasing burden
  380. 14:02on healthcare systems and the
  381. 14:04difficulties in accessing treatments
  382. 14:06like psychotherapy, the rate at which
  383. 14:08physicians prescribed antidepressants
  384. 14:10like SSRIs increased significantly.
  385. 14:13That prescription explosion I mentioned
  386. 14:14at the beginning happened as a result of
  387. 14:16a combination of all these, and of
  388. 14:18course, a lot of other reasons I
  389. 14:20couldn't fit in here.
  390. 14:22Alas, new data that began to accumulate
  391. 14:24from the early 2000s started to point
  392. 14:26out that the idea that depression could
  393. 14:28be solved solely by fixing a serotonin
  394. 14:30deficiency was fundamentally flawed.
  395. 14:34Think of it this way: when you touch
  396. 14:36poison ivy, you can heal the rashes that
  397. 14:38appear on your hands and arms by
  398. 14:40applying a steroid cream, right?
  399. 14:44But the fact that the steroid works in
  400. 14:46this case does not mean that the rash on
  401. 14:48your arm is caused by a steroid
  402. 14:50deficiency.
  403. 14:51The relationship between depression and
  404. 14:54serotonin might be exactly like this.
  405. 14:57In other words, serotonin
  406. 14:58supplementation might be good for
  407. 14:59depression, but this is not enough to
  408. 15:01show that the main cause of depression
  409. 15:03is a serotonin deficiency.
  410. 15:06Indeed, when researchers prevented the
  411. 15:08dietary intake of tryptophan, which is
  412. 15:10used to make serotonin in our bodies—
  413. 15:12that is, when they artificially lowered
  414. 15:14the serotonin production in the
  415. 15:15participants 'bodies—they could not
  416. 15:17trigger depression in most of the
  417. 15:19healthy participants.
  418. 15:21However, interestingly, when the same
  419. 15:23experiment was conducted on patients who
  420. 15:26had already responded to antidepressant
  421. 15:28treatment, depression actually relapsed
  422. 15:30in some of the patients whose serotonin
  423. 15:32was depleted. So, serotonin is involved
  424. 15:35.
  425. 15:36Yes, but it does not seem possible to
  426. 15:38view serotonin deficiency as the sole or
  427. 15:40ultimate cause of depression.
  428. 15:43Furthermore, if you consider the variety
  429. 15:44of antidepressants available today, you
  430. 15:46can directly see that we cannot reduce
  431. 15:48the whole issue to just serotonin.
  432. 15:50I am going to get a bit enthusiastic
  433. 15:51here, please don't be alarmed.
  434. 15:54Think about it, today countless
  435. 15:56molecules can act on the same lock in
  436. 15:59our brains to treat the same depression
  437. 16:01, from reboxetine targeting
  438. 16:03norepinephrine reuptake to bupropion,
  439. 16:06which provides a more stimulating effect
  440. 16:09by working through norepinephrine and
  441. 16:11dopamine; from dual reuptake inhibitors
  442. 16:14, or SNRIs, such as venlafaxine and
  443. 16:17duloxetine used in patients who do not
  444. 16:19respond to SSRIs, to vilazodone,
  445. 16:23which is a 5HT1A partial agonist and may
  446. 16:26have fewer sexual side effects; and from
  447. 16:29vortioxetine, which provides benefits
  448. 16:32especially in cognitive impairment by
  449. 16:34binding to a total of five different
  450. 16:37serotonin receptors, to mirtazapine,
  451. 16:39which indirectly increases
  452. 16:41norepinephrine and dopamine release by
  453. 16:44blocking alpha-2 adrenoceptors and 5HT2A
  454. 16:47and 5HT2C receptors, or agomelatine,
  455. 16:50which suppresses 5HT2C while stimulating
  456. 16:53sleep hormone melatonin receptors.
  457. 16:57So, what would you say is the common
  458. 16:59mechanism that these different keys
  459. 17:02activate inside our brain?
  460. 17:04The answer to this question is hidden in
  461. 17:06a peculiarity you already know if you
  462. 17:08are currently taking antidepressants.
  463. 17:10Just a few hours after you swallow an
  464. 17:13SSRI pill, the amount of serotonin in
  465. 17:15your brain's neuron connections, that is
  466. 17:18, the synapses, suddenly shoots up.
  467. 17:22But even if the medication is going to
  468. 17:24work for you, it takes weeks, sometimes
  469. 17:26even months, for your mood to improve,
  470. 17:28for you to find the energy to get out of
  471. 17:30bed, or to reintegrate into life.
  472. 17:33If the issue were simply completing a
  473. 17:35chemical deficiency, as in diabetes, why
  474. 17:38would this chemical change that happens
  475. 17:41in hours only be able to heal the mind
  476. 17:43in weeks?
  477. 17:44For a long time, the answer given to
  478. 17:46this question focused on the sensitivity
  479. 17:49of receptors.
  480. 17:51For example, it was said that perhaps
  481. 17:52the reason for this delay is that
  482. 17:54autoreceptors that brake serotonin
  483. 17:56release in depression patients taking
  484. 17:57SSRIs become desensitized over time.
  485. 18:00But this idea was not enough to explain
  486. 18:02the delay on its own.
  487. 18:05For instance, in one study, when another
  488. 18:07drug that blocks these autoreceptors
  489. 18:08from day one was added to SSRI treatment
  490. 18:10, the clinical effect of the medication
  491. 18:12did not speed up significantly.
  492. 18:15This means the relationship between the
  493. 18:17effects of depression and the
  494. 18:18instantaneous chemical amount in the
  495. 18:20synaptic cleft was not as direct as once
  496. 18:22thought, but indirect.
  497. 18:24At this point, researchers began to
  498. 18:26focus on another one of the most
  499. 18:28important concepts in neuroscience.
  500. 18:31Neuroplasticity.
  501. 18:33That is, our brain's capacity to renew
  502. 18:35and change its connections, and in
  503. 18:37parallel with that, the changes
  504. 18:39experienced in patients' emotional
  505. 18:41information processing.
  506. 18:44Now, to understand the role of
  507. 18:46neuroplasticity well, we first need to
  508. 18:48understand what chronic stress and
  509. 18:50depression do to our brains physically.
  510. 18:54Today, we know very well that long-term
  511. 18:56stress disrupts our cortisol and
  512. 18:58noradrenaline systems, upsets our
  513. 19:00inflammation balances, and shakes our
  514. 19:02intracellular communication lines to
  515. 19:04their roots.
  516. 19:06We know from animal experiments that
  517. 19:08this type of stress can lead to a toxic
  518. 19:10damage called excitotoxicity by
  519. 19:12excessively increasing the amount of
  520. 19:14glutamate outside the cells. As a result
  521. 19:17, a serious pruning occurs in the animal
  522. 19:19brain in the prefrontal cortex, which is
  523. 19:21the center for decision-making, planning
  524. 19:23, and emotional regulation, and in the
  525. 19:25hippocampus, which is the memory center
  526. 19:27.
  527. 19:28Meaning the synapses there disappear,
  528. 19:30tissue volume shrinks—that is, atrophy
  529. 19:32occurs—and neurogenesis, or the
  530. 19:34production of new neurons, decreases
  531. 19:36significantly.
  532. 19:38In contrast, neurons in the amygdala,
  533. 19:40which manages our perception of fear and
  534. 19:42threat, and the nucleus accumbens, which
  535. 19:45is a part of our reward and motivation
  536. 19:47system, grow excessively—undergoing
  537. 19:49hypertrophy—trapping the brain in a
  538. 19:51constant cycle of alarm and
  539. 19:53dissatisfaction.
  540. 19:56This is precisely why chronic stress and
  541. 19:58depression are such terrible illnesses,
  542. 20:00and it is one of the strongest
  543. 20:02hypotheses explaining why the effects of
  544. 20:04antidepressants only appear after weeks
  545. 20:06.
  546. 20:08For depression to be reversed, the
  547. 20:10synaptic connections weakened by chronic
  548. 20:12stress need to be strengthened again,
  549. 20:14and that is a time-consuming process.
  550. 20:18Because the changes that long-term,
  551. 20:20intense stress creates in the brain over
  552. 20:23months, or even years, are not just
  553. 20:25about a decrease in serotonin.
  554. 20:27The brain's structure and its
  555. 20:29connections change.
  556. 20:31And reversing these is not something
  557. 20:33that can happen overnight, and mouse
  558. 20:35experiments confirm this exactly.
  559. 20:38For instance, in mice given
  560. 20:40antidepressants like fluoxetine, the
  561. 20:42circuits that trigger fear return to a
  562. 20:44younger, more flexible state.
  563. 20:46Thus, it becomes possible for fears that
  564. 20:49have settled in their brains to be
  565. 20:51erased.
  566. 20:52In other words, just as psychedelic
  567. 20:54substances—which I will explain in
  568. 20:56detail in another video—can potentially
  569. 20:59clear the congestion known as cognitive
  570. 21:01constipation and lead to mental clarity
  571. 21:04, antidepressants may also be able to
  572. 21:06remold solidified neural networks and
  573. 21:08make them reshapeable again.
  574. 21:12But unfortunately, this is not enough to
  575. 21:14get out of depression.
  576. 21:16Because even if the synapses in the
  577. 21:18brain become ready to sprout again,
  578. 21:20there must be something that ensures the
  579. 21:22brain forms these new connections in the
  580. 21:25direction of a healthy mood rather than
  581. 21:27more pessimism.
  582. 21:28Isn't that right? Otherwise, the patient
  583. 21:30would simply fall back into depression
  584. 21:32as before. There is something we know
  585. 21:33here.
  586. 21:34Individuals with depression truly see
  587. 21:37the world from behind a very dark filter
  588. 21:39.
  589. 21:41That is, when even a neutral facial
  590. 21:42expression is shown to them, while
  591. 21:44healthy brains perceive this neutral
  592. 21:46face as neutral, individuals with
  593. 21:48depression can perceive the same face as
  594. 21:50hostile or critical.
  595. 21:54Likewise, depressed individuals tend to
  596. 21:56remember negative memories from the past
  597. 21:58much more easily while ignoring positive
  598. 22:00developments or rewards, and in brain
  599. 22:02images of depressive patients, we can
  600. 22:04see that the brain regions associated
  601. 22:06with these negative feelings actually
  602. 22:08change over time.
  603. 22:11However, there is another interesting
  604. 22:12detail here.
  605. 22:14Even though clinical recovery takes
  606. 22:16weeks, antidepressants can reverse this
  607. 22:19negative perception bias I mentioned in
  608. 22:21just a few days, or sometimes even after
  609. 22:24a single dose.
  610. 22:27Moreover, this change happens before the
  611. 22:29patient has even begun to feel better.
  612. 22:32That is why sometimes, before the
  613. 22:34patients themselves notice this
  614. 22:36transformation, those around them—their
  615. 22:39family members or friends—notice it and
  616. 22:41tell the patient that they look better.
  617. 22:44Perhaps it has happened to you; as the
  618. 22:46use of the medication continues, this
  619. 22:48effect gradually increases, and people
  620. 22:49can return to normal levels.
  621. 22:53But more importantly, the knowledge of
  622. 22:55whether this shift in perspective occurs
  623. 22:57early also allows us to predict with
  624. 23:00high accuracy whether antidepressants
  625. 23:02will work for that person, even weeks
  626. 23:04later.
  627. 23:07For example, in one study, 22 out of 37
  628. 23:09patients who showed improvement in
  629. 23:11positive emotion processing in the
  630. 23:13second week of treatment showed over 50
  631. 23:16%improvement by the sixth week of
  632. 23:18clinical tests.
  633. 23:20But of the 11 patients who did not
  634. 23:22experience this shift in perception in
  635. 23:24the second week, only one was able to
  636. 23:26respond to treatment in the following
  637. 23:28weeks. This situation allows us to
  638. 23:30explain the delay between the two more
  639. 23:33clearly.
  640. 23:34Removing that dark filter from the
  641. 23:36patient's eyes is not enough to
  642. 23:38immediately eliminate the habits
  643. 23:40acquired during depression.
  644. 23:43The patient needs to re-experience the
  645. 23:44world with this new and more neutral
  646. 23:46perspective they have acquired, and the
  647. 23:48brain must relearn the world by engaging
  648. 23:50with their social environment through
  649. 23:51this new, more positive filter.
  650. 23:55For example, a small study conducted in
  651. 23:572014 showed that for an increase in the
  652. 23:59ability to recognize happy faces to
  653. 24:01translate into symptom improvement, the
  654. 24:03patients 'social environment must be
  655. 24:05strong.
  656. 24:07If the patient takes the medication but
  657. 24:10remains in an environment where they are
  658. 24:12isolated within four walls or subjected
  659. 24:14to abuse, it seems that eliminating the
  660. 24:17depressive perspective is unfortunately
  661. 24:19not enough on its own.
  662. 24:22As you can see, when it comes to the
  663. 24:24most complex organ in the universe, the
  664. 24:26brain, it is quite clear that to treat
  665. 24:28it, we need to go far beyond just
  666. 24:30boosting serotonin.
  667. 24:32But what exactly is the sequence of
  668. 24:34steps that will unlock depression?
  669. 24:36Unfortunately, we still do not know the
  670. 24:38universal answer to this. Research is
  671. 24:40ongoing.
  672. 24:42So, that is how it is.
  673. 24:44In light of everything I have told you,
  674. 24:46can we say antidepressants work?
  675. 24:49Yes, but not for everyone and not all
  676. 24:51the time. For some patients, sometimes.
  677. 24:55For instance, a massive meta-analysis
  678. 24:57from 2022 reviewing over 200 academic
  679. 25:00studies found that SSRIs provided a
  680. 25:02median improvement of about 10 points on
  681. 25:04a standard depression scale, while
  682. 25:06placebos provided a 7-point improvement
  683. 25:08.
  684. 25:10So, these drugs do not seem to have a
  685. 25:12significantly higher effect than a
  686. 25:13placebo.
  687. 25:15At least in that meta-analysis. Because
  688. 25:17there are also findings that show the
  689. 25:19exact opposite.
  690. 25:20For example, between 1990 and 2003, when
  691. 25:23SSRI use became widespread, suicide
  692. 25:25rates in the 10 to 24 age group in
  693. 25:28America decreased by approximately 29%.
  694. 25:31That is not bad at all.
  695. 25:33Let's say the reason for this was not
  696. 25:35SSRIs, but some other factor.
  697. 25:36But there is also this.
  698. 25:38The American Food and Drug
  699. 25:40Administration (FDA) decided to place
  700. 25:42warnings on these drug boxes similar in
  701. 25:44severity to those on cigarette packs
  702. 25:46after their own meta-analyses showed an
  703. 25:48increase in suicidal thoughts among
  704. 25:50children and adolescents using
  705. 25:52antidepressants.
  706. 25:54Following the placement of these
  707. 25:56warnings, there was an increase in the
  708. 25:58rate of drug poisonings, which is an
  709. 26:00indirect indicator of suicide attempts
  710. 26:02among young people.
  711. 26:04Of course, we do not know for sure, but
  712. 26:05it is thought that the reason for this
  713. 26:07is reduced access to treatment.
  714. 26:09In other words, the cost of leaving
  715. 26:11depression untreated can be much heavier
  716. 26:13than the risk posed by the medication.
  717. 26:15That is why we cannot generalize and say
  718. 26:17"these drugs do not work" just by
  719. 26:19looking at the cases that do not respond
  720. 26:21. This is extremely dangerous. Those who
  721. 26:23benefit from antidepressants experience
  722. 26:25a truly meaningful change in their lives
  723. 26:28, and this group of people is not small
  724. 26:30at all, but yes.
  725. 26:32It is also certainly not right to look
  726. 26:34only at the cases that do work and say
  727. 26:35these drugs are the definitive treatment
  728. 26:37for this disease and no other path
  729. 26:39should be sought.
  730. 26:40Research in this field needs to be
  731. 26:42supported as much as possible. Because
  732. 26:45there are still way too many things we
  733. 26:46do not know. For example, about half of
  734. 26:48those who use these drugs experience
  735. 26:51emotional blunting.
  736. 26:53In other words, the drug mechanism that
  737. 26:55should reduce pain and anxiety perhaps
  738. 26:57suppresses joy and excitement in half of
  739. 26:59the people, and this results in many
  740. 27:01people quitting these drugs.
  741. 27:04Likewise, some antidepressants create
  742. 27:06stomach or sexual problems in patients.
  743. 27:09These must definitely be solved as well
  744. 27:11.
  745. 27:12Furthermore, in addition to
  746. 27:13antidepressants, methods such as
  747. 27:15psychotherapy and neurostimulation
  748. 27:17should also be kept among the options.
  749. 27:19In our country, psychologists still face
  750. 27:22very serious structural problems
  751. 27:24stemming from appointment issues,
  752. 27:26exorbitant and unregulated fees in
  753. 27:28clinical psychology master's programs,
  754. 27:30and the lack of proper professional
  755. 27:33definitions. We cannot expect to make
  756. 27:35any breakthroughs in the much larger
  757. 27:37problems of science while we are unable
  758. 27:39to overcome even these simple issues.
  759. 27:41In other words, as a nation and as
  760. 27:43humanity, we still have a very long way
  761. 27:45to go in this regard.
  762. 27:46But it is clear that whether we are
  763. 27:49talking about depression, learning, or
  764. 27:51other issues we didn't cover today like
  765. 27:54trauma, our brain's ability to change
  766. 27:56itself throughout our lives is truly the
  767. 27:59greatest evolutionary superpower we
  768. 28:01possess. When that power slips out of
  769. 28:04control, unfortunately, it can lead to
  770. 28:06very serious tragedies. But when we
  771. 28:09learn to master it, we can learn to
  772. 28:11overcome even the most severe illnesses
  773. 28:14.
  774. 28:15As long as we know how to ignite that
  775. 28:17healing spark our brain needs to return
  776. 28:20to normal when something goes wrong,
  777. 28:22before we give up on life itself.
  778. 28:26If you enjoyed this video, I highly
  779. 28:28recommend you watch our video on male
  780. 28:30suicide as well.
  781. 28:32See you in the next video, goodbye.

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