Anthropic can't stop winning — Transcript
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- 0:00I'm not going to lie, it kind of feels
- 0:01like Anthropic just can't stop winning.
- 0:03Recently, they've been on quite a tear
- 0:05with all of the recent model releases
- 0:06blowing us away, price changes that make
- 0:08a lot of sense, and generally just not
- 0:11being as annoying to work with. Today is
- 0:13another step in that direction because
- 0:14Anthropic has just changed their plans.
- 0:16They've just introduced the ultra tier
- 0:18to their subscriptions. And don't worry,
- 0:20they're not here to charge a whole bunch
- 0:21more money. It's the exact same plan as
- 0:23the 20X was before, that is the $200 a
- 0:26month plan, but they made some subtle
- 0:27changes to it that are really worth
- 0:29noting. In particular, they removed the
- 0:315-hour limit. This is just a great
- 0:33change all around, right? Like there
- 0:35isn't much to cover here. I should be
- 0:36able to just wrap this video up fast.
- 0:39Oh, for verified ultra accounts.
- 0:43>> [sighs]
- 0:43>> You never make this easy for me, do you,
- 0:45Anthropic? It wouldn't be an Anthropic
- 0:47release without at least a little bit of
- 0:48weirdness, right? That verified callout
- 0:51is part of it. The way that they enforce
- 0:53the 5-hour limits is another part of it
- 0:55because remember, they're only removing
- 0:56this from the $200 plan, even though
- 0:58those 5-hour limits tend to hurt a lot
- 1:00more on the cheaper plans. Ah, there's a
- 1:03lot to dive into here, and I'm going to
- 1:05do my best to cover it all and also talk
- 1:07about how this affects us with T3 Code,
- 1:09which sadly, this does directly affect
- 1:11us with T3 Code. Don't worry too much,
- 1:13though. We're going to be good. Either
- 1:15way, we got bills to pay, though, so
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- 2:30It is worth noting that part of this
- 2:32name change is to clean up some
- 2:34misleading things that existed before.
- 2:37Specifically, that the 5x and the 20x
- 2:40aren't actually reflective of your
- 2:41overall limits. These are just for the
- 2:445-hour limit. Because, believe it or
- 2:46not, back in the day when these plans
- 2:48were introduced, the 5-hour limit is all
- 2:49they really cared about. And that was
- 2:51what people were hitting all the time
- 2:53and why they wanted upgrades. The weekly
- 2:54limits were only introduced as our usage
- 2:56patterns changed fundamentally, and they
- 2:58wanted to keep up the super generous
- 3:01usage that we got when we were used to
- 3:03using these with like Sonic 4 in the OG
- 3:05Claude code CLI. The $20 plan was meant
- 3:08to be the like all you can eat buffet
- 3:09style, like super, super generous plan.
- 3:12It still is very generous, like absurdly
- 3:14so. But, that generosity is because they
- 3:17set a certain bar for how much work you
- 3:18could do, and people wanted to still
- 3:20have that without feeling restricted
- 3:22under the same limits. Mike, who's the
- 3:24head of product for Claude subs, made a
- 3:26really good follow-up post here about
- 3:28this. He also went on about how when
- 3:29they introduced the $20 plan in April
- 3:31last year, April 2025, it only had the
- 3:345-hour limit. And the point of this plan
- 3:36was that it gave you 20 times the amount
- 3:38in those 5 hours that the Pro plan did.
- 3:40So, they called it Max 20x. And when
- 3:42they added a weekly limit to Max 20x,
- 3:44they set them to be 10 times the limit
- 3:46of Pro. Many people assumed that the 20x
- 3:48applied to both limits. They should have
- 3:50done better, and he personally
- 3:51apologized. Actually really nice to see.
- 3:53This it it just feels much more human
- 3:55than I'm used to from Anthropic. Good
- 3:57work, guys. This is an improvement. The
- 3:59new naming is much clearer. They are
- 4:01very specific about these limits in all
- 4:03of their pages and everything now. Like
- 4:05it just directly says it's 10 times more
- 4:07than Pro, which is what it is. Awesome.
- 4:09Cool. So, what's next?
- 4:11There are four subscription plans for
- 4:12Claude: free, Pro, Max, and Ultra. Free
- 4:14is of course free, Pro is 20 bucks a
- 4:16month, Max is 100, and Ultra is 200.
- 4:18They all offer different limits for
- 4:20people who use Claude different amounts.
- 4:22And none of them are enough for super
- 4:23heavy power users like myself balancing
- 4:26seven different Claude accounts. But for
- 4:27most people, the $200 account will be
- 4:29more than enough for day-to-day
- 4:30realistic dev work. Hell, even some
- 4:32heavier stuff would be totally fine in
- 4:34Ultra. When I turned off all my hill
- 4:36climbs, I struggled to even do half an
- 4:37account with Ultra right now, if I'm
- 4:38being real. Max is also quite generous
- 4:40at the $100 offering there, but it does
- 4:42still have the 5-hour limits. We should
- 4:44talk about those really briefly. Claude
- 4:46subs have two limits by default. They
- 4:48have the weekly limit, which is how much
- 4:50Claude you can do in a given week before
- 4:52you have to start paying API prices. And
- 4:54separately, they've a 5-hour limit that
- 4:55keeps you from using the whole thing up
- 4:57in one burst. Why do they have that
- 4:595-hour limit that's separate from the
- 5:017-day limit? The reason is because of
- 5:03compute availability. The level of usage
- 5:05that the subscriptions give you is
- 5:07absurd when you consider how expensive
- 5:09the models can be over API. The $200
- 5:12plan gets you as much as 12,000 dollars
- 5:14a month in inference, which means if you
- 5:16burn that all at a specific time, it can
- 5:18cost Anthropic a lot of money. Not
- 5:20because it's just like melting money in
- 5:22their bank accounts. It's not like every
- 5:23time you send a prompt, it costs them a
- 5:25certain amount of money. Their compute
- 5:26already exists, and it's either being
- 5:28used or isn't. So, as long as our usage
- 5:30in the subscriptions does not take away
- 5:32from availability that they could sell
- 5:34to enterprises, all is good and dandy.
- 5:36The problem is the way that usage occurs
- 5:38over the day. I just ran the numbers
- 5:40against our analytics for T3 Code to
- 5:42give you an idea of how much this varies
- 5:44throughout the day. On a given weekday,
- 5:46there's a lot of variance, but it really
- 5:47starts to spike around
- 5:50say like 4:00 a.m. Pacific time during
- 5:52the weekdays. Absolute peak of prompts
- 5:55being sent is between 7:00 and 9:00 a.m.
- 5:58Pacific time. And then, as we approach
- 6:01the evening from 6:00 p.m. up until like
- 6:03midnight or so, you have a huge lull.
- 6:06There is a 2x gap in how much prompting
- 6:09is being done from the lowest lows and
- 6:12the highest highs just in normal
- 6:14variance of a given weekday. I bring
- 6:16this up because uh what happens if you
- 6:18spend whole of your usage for your week
- 6:21right here in the peak? Eventually,
- 6:24you're going to hit a point where the
- 6:25amount of available computing Prophetic
- 6:27has is just not enough for them to serve
- 6:29these customers and then everybody sees
- 6:32these not enough compute available
- 6:33errors and starts getting upset. So, the
- 6:365-hour limits were introduced as a way
- 6:38to prevent a subscription user from
- 6:41taking more than a certain percentage of
- 6:43their weekly sub in any one of these
- 6:45work windows. If you broke up this chart
- 6:48into 5-hour chunks, the most a user
- 6:51could do would be I don't know, like 10
- 6:52to 15% of their weekly limit in any one
- 6:54of those chunks, which massively impacts
- 6:57the amount of available compute that
- 6:59Anthropic has when they are trying to
- 7:01sell it during the workdays. Back in the
- 7:03day, Anthropic even went as far as
- 7:04giving you worse limits during these
- 7:06windows and more generous limits outside
- 7:09of these windows because of how bad the
- 7:11compute scarcity was affecting them. And
- 7:13the other harsh reality is that during
- 7:15these late-night hours, there's probably
- 7:17a lot of GPUs they're paying for that
- 7:18are sitting not doing much. They don't
- 7:20mind when you burn during these windows.
- 7:23In fact, if you take the time to go
- 7:24through all of the resets that we've
- 7:25been given for Codex subs, you'll notice
- 7:28they tend to be either late at night or
- 7:31on weekends because that is when they
- 7:33have the most compute available, where
- 7:35the compute isn't being used heavily by
- 7:37the companies that they sell to. Because
- 7:38it's also worth noting that these $200
- 7:40subs don't make the labs much, if any,
- 7:42money. The point's to get us addicted to
- 7:44using 12 grand of tokens a month so that
- 7:46when we go to our employer, we're
- 7:48expecting to spend a similar amount
- 7:49there and they'll have to pay those API
- 7:51prices. There is a small benefit to the
- 7:535-hour limit to us as users. Makes it
- 7:55slightly harder to accidentally overrun
- 7:57your whole subscription. I know I and
- 7:59others have had this silly mistake that
- 8:01like, let's be real, any us can make,
- 8:03where we send a prompt we think will be
- 8:04resolved quickly, leave, come back, and
- 8:07it's just burned an insane amount of
- 8:08tokens that we never thought it would
- 8:10have. The 5-hour limit helps a little
- 8:11bit with preventing that, which is nice,
- 8:13but overall, I'm happy to see it gone,
- 8:16at least from the verified Ultra
- 8:18accounts. Uh
- 8:20yeah, we'll talk about the verification
- 8:22thing in just a sec, but first we have
- 8:24to time travel a little bit all the way
- 8:26back to May. Feels like years ago that
- 8:29this happened. It's crazy it was only a
- 8:30few months. This was when Anthropic
- 8:32announced their partnership with SpaceX
- 8:35for compute. This was a massive
- 8:36multi-billion dollar deal that allowed
- 8:39for Anthropic to borrow SpaceX's GPUs
- 8:41from their old data center that they
- 8:43weren't using as heavily, and I don't
- 8:44think they're using it at all. I'm
- 8:45pretty sure Anthropic just runs that
- 8:46whole data center now. And when they did
- 8:48this deal, suddenly Anthropic had access
- 8:50to more GPUs and more compute, so they
- 8:51could run more Claude. And with that,
- 8:53they made a huge change. They doubled
- 8:55the Claude code 5-hour rate limits, and
- 8:58they removed the peak hour limit
- 9:00reductions for Claude code. The reason
- 9:02they could do this is, again, compute
- 9:04was available finally. They had to have
- 9:06these limits to restrict how much we
- 9:09could abuse Claude in a given hour. To
- 9:11be clear, this wasn't restricting how
- 9:12many dollars we could spend in terms of
- 9:14API prices. This was limiting how much
- 9:16GPU we could use during those work hours
- 9:20where they needed those GPUs to sell
- 9:22enterprise inference to these bigger
- 9:23companies. They don't care about how
- 9:25much money our usage costs. They care
- 9:27about how much GPU they have available
- 9:28for enterprises. So, when they had more
- 9:30GPU available, they got way more
- 9:31generous with their limits.
- 9:33Note the wording here though, cuz we're
- 9:34going to come back to this. Doubling
- 9:36Claude code's 5-hour limits. We'll be
- 9:39back. Because now we have to talk about
- 9:41the verified aspect here. Why are they
- 9:44limiting this to verified Ultra
- 9:46accounts, and what even is a verified
- 9:48account? They specify a little bit here,
- 9:50saying that this starts today with most
- 9:51existing subscribers. Newer accounts
- 9:53keep a temporary limit until they're
- 9:56verified, which helps us prevent fraud
- 9:58and abuse. You'll get an email when it's
- 10:00removed. Yeah, I don't love this. I
- 10:04specifically don't love the lack of
- 10:06transparency here. They have been truly
- 10:08like legendarily vague about what
- 10:11verification even is. They say they
- 10:13remove the limit automatically when your
- 10:14account is verified, so there's nothing
- 10:16you need to do. Verifying your phone
- 10:18number at checkout is a separate step
- 10:19and does not remove this limit. To
- 10:21check, go to settings usage. If you
- 10:23don't see a current session bar, your
- 10:25account is verified. Yeah, not great. It
- 10:28would be really nice for them to give a
- 10:29little more detail on how this works.
- 10:33But when you understand why they did it,
- 10:35I think you'll understand why they
- 10:36can't. One of the biggest issues
- 10:38Anthropic has to deal with right now is
- 10:40distillation. In order to do
- 10:42distillation, you need a lot of
- 10:44real-world requests and responses from
- 10:47real-world Claude usage. One of the best
- 10:49ways to generate this is to get an API
- 10:51key. And if you can't do those because,
- 10:53I don't know, maybe your country is
- 10:55sanctioned and you're not allowed to do
- 10:56that, or you don't have the money and
- 10:58you're trying to save because again,
- 10:59$200 in, $12,000 out. It's a lot cheaper
- 11:03to use subs. So, as you can probably
- 11:05guess, there's a lot of interest from
- 11:06these Chinese labs and other companies
- 11:08that want to do the distillation to get
- 11:10these subs, burn them as quick as
- 11:12possible, generate a ton of responses,
- 11:14and then use that for distillation. The
- 11:16removal of the 5-hour limit does make it
- 11:18slightly easier to do that, which is why
- 11:20they want to enforce things more
- 11:22strictly this way, but it's also just
- 11:24weird and hits users that are doing
- 11:27things the honest way a little bit too
- 11:29hard. From my calculations, you can do
- 11:31roughly 30% of your weekly limit through
- 11:33one of those 5-hour windows, so you get
- 11:35three and a half or so 5-hour limits in
- 11:38a given week. But here's where we get to
- 11:40the final catch, that hint I gave
- 11:42earlier in the video. Remember when I
- 11:44pointed out they specified that they
- 11:45were doubling Claude codes' 5-hour rate
- 11:48limits? They meant what they said.
- 11:50And what they meant was only Claude
- 11:52code. This has been incredibly annoying
- 11:56for us to figure out because as people
- 11:58have started using T3 Code more heavily,
- 12:00they have identified the fact that their
- 12:025-hour limits burn much faster in apps
- 12:05like T3 Code. This user pointed out that
- 12:07T3 Code uses around 1.8 times more of
- 12:10the 5-hour window per token than the
- 12:13interactive CLI does. Even {dash} P does
- 12:16the same thing, by the way. Incredibly
- 12:18annoying. This is an issue that's opened
- 12:20on the Anthropic repo that I became
- 12:22aware of because of how many people are
- 12:24reporting it to us in T3 Code. I did my
- 12:26own calculations to confirm this, and it
- 12:28is indeed true. I've been working with
- 12:30Anthropic on this because I was hoping
- 12:33it would get fixed. I patiently waited,
- 12:35and they did this change, which to be
- 12:36fair, for a significant portion of our
- 12:38users, does resolve the problem because
- 12:40anybody on the $200 plans no longer has
- 12:425-hour limits. So, you're good. We're
- 12:45done. We're This is solved now, right?
- 12:47Well, the $20 and $100 tier people are
- 12:50extra screwed because their 5-hour
- 12:52limits are worse, which already sucks.
- 12:54And when you combine that with the 2x
- 12:55decrease for agent SDK users, it's just
- 12:58garbage. I am not fond of this. I've
- 13:00been trying to get Anthropic to do
- 13:01something about it for a minute, and uh
- 13:04not had the best luck, if I'm being
- 13:05real. I was hopeful. I've lost hope,
- 13:07which is why I'm going to tell you guys
- 13:09what I do. I already see the comment
- 13:11happening, so I'm going to jump on it
- 13:12now, but Theo Open Code has the Claude
- 13:15sub. How are they doing it without agent
- 13:18SDK? I was really excited about this
- 13:19release. I thought this was Anthropic
- 13:21finally being chill and letting Open
- 13:23Code integrate Claude directly. I was
- 13:25wrong. They're using agent SDK under the
- 13:27hood, too. If you are using Claude subs
- 13:29in your apps, you either have to have
- 13:32your app just call the Claude Code CLI
- 13:34directly with like the terminal visible,
- 13:36or you have to use the agent SDK, which
- 13:38means you're going to be hit with this
- 13:3950% decrease in the 5-hour limits.
- 13:43Obnoxious. I really hope they decide to
- 13:45fix this instead of causing more
- 13:47problems. I will say before I go any
- 13:49further, I cannot be held responsible
- 13:51for any account bans. Okay, now that
- 13:53said, there's some very easy solutions
- 13:54here. Solution one is there is a field
- 13:56called Claude Code entry point that we
- 13:58currently have set to SDK-TS for
- 14:01TypeScript for the official TypeScript
- 14:03agent SDK. If you change this to
- 14:05literally anything, the problem goes
- 14:07away. There are lots of different ways
- 14:08to set this. Hypothetically speaking,
- 14:11you can make this problem go away pretty
- 14:12easy in this certain JSON file that will
- 14:15be loaded properly into T3 code. I think
- 14:18we should be reporting this as T3-code
- 14:20anyways because, let's be real, that is
- 14:23the entry point. The entry point isn't
- 14:25SDK. TS The entry point is T3 code. So,
- 14:26I think this PR is an accuracy win, but
- 14:29I'm scared if I merge it, might cause
- 14:31problems when Anthropic sees a huge
- 14:32spike in this new entry point. So,
- 14:35do as you please here.
- 14:37Well, good news. Things changed
- 14:39literally while I was filming. You might
- 14:41see this 2 minutes ago. Yeah, I got
- 14:44semi-solid permission to merge this
- 14:46which should, hypothetically, fingers
- 14:48crossed, get around the 5-hour limit
- 14:51changes that affect T3 code so that you
- 14:54will get the same usage for the 5-hour
- 14:56limit as well as for the longer-term
- 14:58weekly limit in T3 code as you would in
- 15:01Claude code directly. So, yeah. Thank
- 15:03you to my friends at Anthropic for being
- 15:05reasonable with all of this. I know it
- 15:07is not trivial to convince that company
- 15:09to let you do things, but yeah. I wanted
- 15:12these limits to not affect our users,
- 15:14and as of this moment, literally as I'm
- 15:16recording, once this release goes out,
- 15:18they no longer will. Huge win. That all
- 15:20said, I didn't notice these problems
- 15:22because I've been routing through CLI
- 15:24proxy anyways, which already applied
- 15:25things like this to prevent this issue.
- 15:27So, again, if you wanted to have
- 15:29multiple accounts or manage all of that,
- 15:31I don't recommend doing it in T3 code
- 15:32directly. I will not be held accountable
- 15:34for any of these things getting your
- 15:35account banned. I'm not telling you you
- 15:37should go do this and that it's totally
- 15:38safe and friendly and fine and Anthropic
- 15:40loves it. I'm just saying what my
- 15:42experience has been.
- 15:43And from my experience, if you hunt
- 15:45through the FAQ, you might just find a
- 15:47guest somewhere that shows my exact
- 15:50setup that your agents should be able to
- 15:53take and understand and work against.
- 15:56And this is the exact setup that I've
- 15:57been using for all of my inference for
- 15:59at least 4 months now, probably more,
- 16:01and I haven't had any issues personally.
- 16:02So, again,
- 16:04take it as you will. Few things I have
- 16:05to say about the 5-hour limits though.
- 16:07That's all I have to talk about here. A
- 16:08nice, simple, short video all about the
- 16:10new Claude sub plan that isn't really
- 16:12all that new. I'm sure there won't be
- 16:14anything else I have to cover similar
- 16:15like, I don't know, a new Codex plan
- 16:18Thanks, Tibo. Coming up very soon will
- 16:20be my video on the new Codex limits and
- 16:22how they compare to what Claude offers
- 16:24right now. Because before this change,
- 16:26the Codex plans were just not a good
- 16:28value in comparison to the Claude plans.
- 16:30Now the math is very different and I
- 16:31will go through all of that math with
- 16:33you guys in a video coming very soon. So
- 16:35subscribe if you haven't. Let me know
- 16:36what you think. Hopefully this was a
- 16:37useful breakdown, a bit different from
- 16:39what I normally do, but just wanted to
- 16:40get this news out as quickly as I could.
- 16:42Let me know how y'all feel about it and
- 16:43until next time,
- 16:44peace nerds.
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