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- 0:01foreign
- 0:03[Music]
- 0:05this jungle is their home the
- 0:08long-tailed macaques live in the forests
- 0:10of Mauritius far from the tourist
- 0:12Beaches they are part of a million
- 0:15dollar business Mauritius is the world's
- 0:18second largest exporter of monkeys
- 0:20around 8 000 climates are sold for
- 0:22research purposes every year to Germany
- 0:25as well they end up in test Laboratories
- 0:29condoned by the mauritian government
- 0:36foreign
- 0:39Advocates animal rights he made the
- 0:42business of the monkey Farms public for
- 0:45him as a Hindu the animals are sacred
- 0:48the Divine being Hanuman once lived in
- 0:51the shape of a monkey on Earth to
- 0:52protect Humanity
- 0:57I've been visiting this place for
- 1:01regularly for quite some years
- 1:04and uh I think it was uh three to four
- 1:07years ago I noticed that the number of
- 1:11monkeys in the surrounding World
- 1:13decreasing
- 1:18and after some research on the internet
- 1:21I came to know that Mauritius actually
- 1:23exported the monkeys so it is obviously
- 1:26something which is hidden and eventually
- 1:28to be exported where we all know that
- 1:31they're going to die at the end of the
- 1:33experiment so this is completely wrong
- 1:37the breeding farms are well hidden on
- 1:39inaccessible private land these pictures
- 1:42secretly filmed by a British Animal
- 1:44Welfare organization show how the
- 1:47monkeys are treated here
- 1:48[Music]
- 1:54[Music]
- 1:57meanwhile experimental animals are
- 2:00supposedly only bred for export
- 2:03the catching of wild monkeys was stopped
- 2:06because the EU only accepts animals that
- 2:09were raised in captivity
- 2:16little is known about the monkey Trader
- 2:18Mauritius the government approves the
- 2:20business of monkey farms politicians of
- 2:23the opposition are refused access
- 2:25[Music]
- 2:28we want to see transparency we don't
- 2:30know what is happening maybe we can say
- 2:32oh yes you can export it we see
- 2:33everything is okay then the animal get
- 2:35back to normal or it is cute it is being
- 2:38good but we don't know there is no
- 2:40transparency
- 2:44the business with laboratory animals is
- 2:47quite opaque only recently it became
- 2:50known that various German car
- 2:52manufacturers in the USA carried out
- 2:54experiments with diesel exhaust gases on
- 2:57long-tailed macaques
- 2:59they are often used for toxicity tests
- 3:02because their genome is about 93
- 3:04identical to the human genome
- 3:07during those tests the animals had to
- 3:10inhale exhaust fumes for four hours
- 3:13the who had already determined the
- 3:15fume's harmfulness
- 3:22in Germany primates are also used to
- 3:25test where the new substances or drugs
- 3:27are toxic or not this safety check is
- 3:30required by law
- 3:35the researchers use more than a quarter
- 3:37of all laboratory animals for these
- 3:39so-called harmlessness tests there are
- 3:42other experimental Fields more than half
- 3:45of all animals are used for basic
- 3:47research 14 for research on diseases
- 3:58the Animal Rights Association Peter
- 4:01wants to abolish all these experiments
- 4:03they believe that research can continue
- 4:05without them here they are at a rally in
- 4:07downtown Stuttgart the number of
- 4:09laboratory animals has hardly changed
- 4:11for years Peter considers this a scandal
- 4:15in innocence in the next 10 years
- 4:17Germany should cease all animal testing
- 4:19the university should set an example
- 4:22we're here today to promote that all
- 4:25universities should put an end to animal
- 4:27testing once and for all
- 4:31in most German federal states even
- 4:33prospective biology teachers are
- 4:35required to dissect animals
- 4:37wouldn't the section work was required
- 4:40even though I had ethical concerns it
- 4:43was done in front of students too and
- 4:46most of them find it disgusting I had
- 4:49the impression that it did not
- 4:50contribute much to learn more about the
- 4:53organ functions this could have been
- 4:55done with models or explained with films
- 4:58it seems that this was mainly about
- 5:00accepting it as a method of scientific
- 5:03workers
- 5:07in 2016 tests were carried out on almost
- 5:11one and a half million mice in Germany
- 5:13in addition there were almost 270 000
- 5:16fish about 250 000 rats one hundred
- 5:19thousand rabbits and about 2 500
- 5:22primates
- 5:23[Music]
- 5:27Peter demands that research and teaching
- 5:30should not use animals at all most
- 5:32scientists claim that this is wishful
- 5:34thinking for Peter an ant to animal
- 5:36testing would be to say goodbye to a
- 5:39brutal system
- 5:44you can't make an animal sick make it
- 5:47deaf or make sure that it cannot walk
- 5:50anymore and then try to heal it again
- 5:54and in the end try to mirror the results
- 6:02do animal experiments really never make
- 6:05sense let's take deafness as an example
- 6:08electronic implants for the hearing
- 6:10impaired have been developed with the
- 6:12help of cats and guinea pigs
- 6:16physiotherapists have been a kubalek
- 6:18Schroeder profited from this she thought
- 6:20long and hard before she decided on such
- 6:23an implant today she can even listen to
- 6:26phone calls with her deaf ear
- 6:30if you use medicine today you should be
- 6:33aware that animal testing may be
- 6:35involved it's like saying I want to eat
- 6:37meat but I don't want animals to be
- 6:39killed that's just dishonest
- 6:43her electronic implant would not exist
- 6:45without experiments on animals she has
- 6:47been wearing it for two years this is
- 6:51far from normal hearing every noise
- 6:54sounds metallic
- 6:57the whistling of the kettle or a driving
- 7:00car sounds as if someone moved Metal
- 7:03Sheets in the air
- 7:07this is exactly what Dr Tobias mosa
- 7:10wants to change for a significantly
- 7:12better hearing experience for his
- 7:14patients he does research on a new
- 7:16generation of implants
- 7:18specific genetic modifications are
- 7:20intended to make cells in the inner ear
- 7:22sensitive to light light points in the
- 7:25cochlea then transmit the sound inside
- 7:27the ear patients would then have a much
- 7:29more realistic hearing experience the
- 7:32Breakthrough happened with the help of
- 7:34gerbils the implant already works on
- 7:36them they can hear with the help of
- 7:38light
- 7:39as this experiment shows the rodents are
- 7:42taught to switch sides following an
- 7:44acoustic signal
- 7:46the tests then show that The Gerbils
- 7:49with the light implant can hear
- 7:55once we're convinced that everything
- 7:57works well with the rodents we take the
- 7:59next step to the next higher animals for
- 8:01pre-clinical and late pre-clinical
- 8:04trials on marmosets
- 8:09the pilot study currently uses 10
- 8:12marmosets
- 8:17they communicate in some kind of a
- 8:19dialogue this makes them so important
- 8:22for hearing research
- 8:24the experiments take place at the German
- 8:26primate Center in gottingham at present
- 8:29about 1300 primates live here with about
- 8:32450 marmosets among them
- 8:36in order to keep the number of monkeys
- 8:38as low as possible the researchers also
- 8:40work with mathematical models no monkey
- 8:43carries the implants yet but later
- 8:45healthy animals must be made deaf
- 8:51the marmosets are taught to react to
- 8:54Signal tones during months of training
- 8:56as soon as the monkeys hear the sounds
- 8:58they should lick a tube this way you can
- 9:01check later how well the implants work
- 9:05foreign
- 9:13the experiments are monitored by Stefan
- 9:16Troyer head of the primate Center he
- 9:18believes that basic research on monkeys
- 9:20is irreplaceable
- 9:24because that's in medicine today we
- 9:25often use deep brain stimulations
- 9:28an electrical stimulation that should
- 9:31reactivate areas of the brain that are
- 9:33not active enough this wouldn't be
- 9:36possible without basic research with
- 9:38primates the same goes for Prosthetics
- 9:41we now try to develop modern prostheses
- 9:43that could receive impulses from the
- 9:45nervous system
- 9:48a Swiss research team succeeded in
- 9:51teaching paraplegic rats to walk again
- 9:55transmitter in the head directly
- 9:56stimulates the severed nerve
- 9:59Technologies like these cannot be
- 10:01developed on the computer or with cell
- 10:03culture
- 10:07another example
- 10:10Parkinson's patients can lead a better
- 10:12life with the help of a brain pacemaker
- 10:16the chip suppresses the typical tremor
- 10:20this progress wouldn't have been
- 10:22possible without animal testing but how
- 10:25far do we want to go at the expanse of
- 10:27animals what would be the price of a
- 10:29renouncement
- 10:33the alternative
- 10:35would be experiments on humans we know
- 10:39that in some countries that don't
- 10:41cherish human life too much organs are
- 10:44sometimes removed from people who accept
- 10:47this out of financial despair in such
- 10:51cases I would actually put human welfare
- 10:54before Animal Welfare
- 10:57at the German primate Center they agree
- 11:00that animal testing is absolutely
- 11:02necessary and also justifiable for
- 11:04medical progress
- 11:06[Music]
- 11:09this question whether to do animal
- 11:12testing or not doesn't arise in our
- 11:14field of research as it would be
- 11:16unethical to expect a human being to
- 11:18take this risk at such an early stage
- 11:25nevertheless it remains an ethical
- 11:27dilemma we make animals sick in order to
- 11:30be able to heal ourselves this is not
- 11:32only problematic for the Hindus and
- 11:34Mauritius for many people Animal Welfare
- 11:37is a great asset
- 11:42foreign
- 11:46politicians have to decide on the monkey
- 11:48farms for me as a priest it is clear
- 11:50that we must protect the lives of
- 11:52animals especially monkeys we pray to
- 11:55them they are our God
- 12:01for animal rights activist Anand
- 12:03experiments on monkeys are unbearable
- 12:06but would Animal Welfare at all costs be
- 12:09the solution
- 12:12I think the best thing would be to
- 12:14emphasize on the Alternatives rather
- 12:18than keeping an old and obsolete way of
- 12:23of trying to of research or trying to
- 12:25find disease it's okay putting humans
- 12:28first but it should be done in a in a
- 12:31human way
- 12:33Peter's headquarters in Stuttgart the
- 12:36organization plans its activities they
- 12:39want to change people's minds about 49
- 12:42000 animals per year are killed for
- 12:45educational purposes at universities and
- 12:47Clinics way too many they say are Peter
- 12:51we made masks of all the animals that
- 12:54are traditionally dissected at
- 12:56universities there are fish for example
- 12:58mice are some kind of a classic and
- 13:01unfortunately research is still done on
- 13:04monkeys we demand that biology students
- 13:07in the state of baden-wurttemberg can be
- 13:09Exempted from dissecting animals some of
- 13:12the animals are killed specifically for
- 13:15this purpose and there are good
- 13:17Alternatives such as computer
- 13:18simulations no animals have to die for
- 13:21this nowadays down
- 13:24some universities seized lectures with
- 13:26animals but most of them stick to a
- 13:28combination sometimes with and sometimes
- 13:31without animals
- 13:32in its campaigns Peter are in full cry
- 13:35over dissection but what would this mean
- 13:38for medical lectures
- 13:44it's difficult to get an understanding
- 13:46of how an organism is actually an
- 13:48atomically structured from films photos
- 13:51and illustrations alone because an
- 13:54animal looks different than in the
- 13:55textbook Peter is opposed to the idea
- 13:58that you have to practice on animals to
- 13:59find your way around in a living being
- 14:01their message is that animal welfare
- 14:03should be valued more highly
- 14:06not any good animal testing be stopped
- 14:09it rather should be as the development
- 14:11of drugs or aids for humans often cannot
- 14:14be tested on animals because an animal
- 14:17is an animal and humans are humans
- 14:19even every pig is different from every
- 14:21other Pig there are conclusive studies
- 14:24that 92 pharmaceutical tests on animals
- 14:27delivered faulty results
- 14:29which could be harmful to humans in fact
- 14:34failed experiments on animals are taken
- 14:36into account which is a complex and
- 14:38expensive matter for the pharmaceutical
- 14:40industry on average it takes six years
- 14:43until a drug is tested on humans for the
- 14:45first time
- 14:47foreign
- 14:50of all substances still fail in these
- 14:54experiments because the animal testing
- 14:56didn't produce any relevant data
- 14:58and in phase two when a Drug's efficacy
- 15:01is tested for the first time in small
- 15:03groups of patients even still 50 percent
- 15:06of the substances drop out because they
- 15:09don't show any effect the substance
- 15:12so many experiments on animals are
- 15:15inefficient but nobody wants to risk
- 15:18people being harmed by toxic substances
- 15:20after all animal testing is followed by
- 15:23experiments on humans as required by law
- 15:28something that is only approximately
- 15:30highly toxic shouldn't pass this barrier
- 15:32in such cases the number of tests isn't
- 15:35really relevant even though we may do
- 15:37tests that probably don't make sense
- 15:41their tissues in Berlin over Mark's team
- 15:44is working on the vision of the end of
- 15:46animal testing even in connection with
- 15:48complex pharmaceutical tests this
- 15:51multi-organ chip will one day replace 70
- 15:53percent of all laboratory animals
- 16:00foreign
- 16:02ature organs can be connected via an
- 16:05artificial blood circulation the chip
- 16:07works with human cells and is capable of
- 16:10Imaging complex processes just as in
- 16:13experiments with animals
- 16:15animal rights activists have high hopes
- 16:18for this invention
- 16:23this is the simulation of a diabetes
- 16:25patient a human miniature liver is
- 16:28connected to a miniature pancreas
- 16:33foreign
- 16:35we are now feeding the cells with a very
- 16:38high sugar solution so that they develop
- 16:40diabetes and afterwards we will do
- 16:42pharmaceutical tests on them accordingly
- 16:46despite years of animal testing the
- 16:49pharmaceutical industry hasn't yet
- 16:51succeeded in curing type 2 diabetes
- 16:53although we're able to treat diabetes in
- 16:56mice and dogs clinical studies show that
- 16:59these drugs aren't effective in humans
- 17:02[Music]
- 17:04the invention of the chip could reduce
- 17:06the development time of drugs by three
- 17:08years this would save the pharmaceutical
- 17:11industry enormous costs and the Animals
- 17:13a lot of suffering
- 17:17in 15 years we will be ready to replace
- 17:20the majority of animal experiments for
- 17:23pre-clinical drug evaluation with such
- 17:25small chips only the majority because
- 17:28there are diseases or cases that concern
- 17:31the overall structure of the respective
- 17:33organs
- 17:36the brain will never be replaced by your
- 17:38chips or many tests on monkeys cannot be
- 17:40replaced by such multi-organ chips
- 17:46primates only play a very small part in
- 17:48research that is based on animal testing
- 17:50but these tests only concern basic
- 17:53functions in the organism that are of
- 17:55particular importance for humans due to
- 17:57the similarity between primates and
- 17:59humans the greatest part of experiments
- 18:02with animals is done with simpler
- 18:04organisms with mice and rats for example
- 18:06or with alternative methods
- 18:08the chemical concern BASF is a leader in
- 18:12the development of these alternative
- 18:13methods for toxicological test methods
- 18:16currently there are about 30 alternative
- 18:19methods in use there are other Solutions
- 18:22especially for the legally required
- 18:24tests for the skin and the eyes
- 18:28the bcop test is one example instead of
- 18:32working with live animals Slaughter
- 18:34waste is used the harmful effects of
- 18:36substances are tested on the eyes of
- 18:39bovines for this purpose the cornea is
- 18:42placed in a special measuring device
- 18:44the more aggressive the chemical the
- 18:46more cloudy the cornea becomes the
- 18:49amount of light that is lapped through
- 18:51can be accurately measured
- 19:02in the past thousands of rabbits were
- 19:04used for these procedures each year in
- 19:07order to determine irritant or corrosive
- 19:09effects the chemicals were applied
- 19:11directly to the eyes of the animals
- 19:17foreign
- 19:18[Music]
- 19:28alternative methods have been approved
- 19:31nevertheless there are still tests being
- 19:34carried out on live rabbits in Germany
- 19:36why haven't such experiments been
- 19:38abandoned long ago
- 19:40I don't think that there is anyone who
- 19:43wouldn't want to use alternative methods
- 19:45but we have to ask ourselves if we can
- 19:48be absolutely sure that we're then able
- 19:50to guarantee sufficient protection for
- 19:52human health animal testing is far from
- 19:55perfect but it has a long history that
- 19:57essentially worked well and alternative
- 19:59methods are rather new
- 20:03these new methods have to meet high
- 20:05standards they have to prove their
- 20:07effectiveness in extensive studies which
- 20:09is why it takes about five years from
- 20:11the end of development until the
- 20:13introduction of a new drug
- 20:15animal testing is still the benchmark
- 20:19Einstein it will be very difficult to
- 20:22replace animal testing power for par at
- 20:25some point we will have to choose if we
- 20:27could do the toxicological evaluation
- 20:29differently by not trying to reproduce
- 20:31experiments with animals in a test tube
- 20:33if we have enough understanding of what
- 20:35happens in the body in regards to toxic
- 20:37effects and also know how to evaluate
- 20:40this without animal testing we will
- 20:42surely get there in the next 20 years
- 20:48one reason for this long period is that
- 20:51alternative methods must first prove
- 20:53that they have the same significance as
- 20:55animal experiments they can often do
- 20:58even more like those tests on the skin a
- 21:01possible allergy development can thus be
- 21:03predicted more reliably than with animal
- 21:05testing
- 21:08[Music]
- 21:10many experts demand a change of thinking
- 21:13from the regulatory authorities they
- 21:16should deal with the Alternatives more
- 21:17quickly
- 21:18however animal testing for toxic
- 21:20substances is still required by law
- 21:23mice bear the brunt of the work since
- 21:26their genes are easy to manipulate they
- 21:28are particularly popular with
- 21:30researchers
- 21:31here at the Institute of veterinary
- 21:33medicine at the Freya University Berlin
- 21:35the scientists are trying to find better
- 21:37ways of dealing with laboratory animals
- 21:40I will get a cage with mice and show the
- 21:43students a gentle way of handling them
- 21:46so that it is as stress-free as possible
- 21:49for the animals
- 21:57animal keeper e Friedrich consciously
- 22:00decided to take care of animals that are
- 22:03used for experiments
- 22:06I don't think that the use of these
- 22:08animals can be dispensed with completely
- 22:10at the moment science simply hasn't come
- 22:13that far yet this is a possibility for
- 22:16me to provide animal protection and to
- 22:18make sure that they have the best
- 22:20possible life
- 22:25when we assess the welfare of or the
- 22:28strain on the animals we often try to
- 22:30see things from the animal's perspective
- 22:32it's quite clear that all interventions
- 22:35that cause more pain suffering or damage
- 22:38than an injection are to be judged as
- 22:41strain but for the mouth the injection
- 22:44isn't the greatest strain it's much more
- 22:47stressful when I reach into the cage and
- 22:50grab it
- 22:55clicker training can be used to train
- 22:57mice to climb onto the hand voluntarily
- 22:59when they follow a green ball there is a
- 23:02click and they get some white chocolate
- 23:04this is a way of reducing stress for the
- 23:07animals but it's a fact that many animal
- 23:09tests are designed in such a way that
- 23:12suffering cannot be avoided
- 23:17statistics show that in 2016 more than
- 23:20half of all laboratory animals suffered
- 23:22from minor strain about every fifth
- 23:24animal was exposed to medium and five
- 23:27percent to heavy strain
- 23:29eleven percent died under general
- 23:31anesthesia
- 23:35the aim of the Berlin researchers is to
- 23:37find out how the total number of
- 23:39laboratory animals can be reduced they
- 23:42started a study on this with mice they
- 23:44wanted to find out how many General
- 23:46anesthetics a single animal can handle
- 23:52the more pellets the animals dig out of
- 23:54the tunnel the better they feel a mouse
- 23:57in pain would dig out less pellets than
- 24:00a mouse that feels good it's animals
- 24:05the conclusion was that six anesthetics
- 24:07are acceptable with one Mouse mice can
- 24:10be used several times it would be
- 24:13possible to further reduce the number of
- 24:15animals if researchers were to publish
- 24:17more regarding their failures
- 24:19otherwise they run the risk of repeating
- 24:22experiments with animals unnecessarily
- 24:26I hope that the studies were well
- 24:28planned and implemented that the number
- 24:31of animals is properly documented and
- 24:34that not only the positive data is
- 24:36published but also the negative results
- 24:44Krista Turner reinecker also believes
- 24:46that research cannot do without animal
- 24:49testing but she still sees a lot of
- 24:52potential if animals have to be used it
- 24:55should be at least as gently as possible
- 24:57and as little as necessary
- 25:02I don't think that we can renounce it
- 25:04completely in the foreseeable future but
- 25:07I believe that we can achieve a great
- 25:09deal by caring for the animals improving
- 25:12our methods and developing new
- 25:14procedures particularly in the area of
- 25:17Toxicology in order to reduce the number
- 25:19of animals
- 25:22Whenever there is a lack of basic
- 25:24understanding of the human organism
- 25:27there is still no solution inside
- 25:28without animal testing the situation is
- 25:31different when it comes to
- 25:32Pharmaceuticals here Alternatives seem
- 25:35possible in the foreseeable future
- 25:38nobody likes animal testing it's an
- 25:40ethical dilemma and it's expensive so
- 25:42there's already a lot of pressure to
- 25:45replace this methods
- 25:49these marmosets won't benefit from this
- 25:51they are already scheduled for the next
- 25:53experiments with hearing implants they
- 25:56remain an important part of scientific
- 25:59research
- 26:01animal testing is only one method in
- 26:04medical research and in the end it can
- 26:05only be the combination of animal
- 26:07experiments with computer models cell
- 26:09cultures we need to find methods that
- 26:11really help us to move forward because
- 26:13the big questions in medicine today are
- 26:15so complex that no method alone will
- 26:18suffice to make progress
- 26:22it will not yet be possible to do
- 26:25without the monkeys from Mauritius but
- 26:27the chemical and pharmaceutical
- 26:29Industries basic researchers and doctors
- 26:32are all working on other Alternatives
- 26:34some progress has already been made a
- 26:37ban on animal testing for Cosmetics
- 26:39tobacco products detergents and weapons
- 26:42is now in place all over Europe also
- 26:45thanks to the pressure from animal
- 26:47rights activists
- 26:49isn't the only one who hopes that all
- 26:52animals will be able to live freely in
- 26:54the future but the Dilemma remains
- 26:56medical progress all too often
- 26:59contradicts Animal Welfare
- 27:04foreign
- 27:09[Music]
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