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Andy Ngo Explains Why Antifa Doesn't Get Arrested in Portland | Joe Rogan — Transcript

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0:00the Joe Rogan experience how you doing
0:03man you're all healed up the bruising
0:06and swelling has gone down as you can
0:08see but the more serious injury was to
0:10the brain you have a serious injury to
0:12your brain yeah
0:13brain hemorrhage what happened from what
0:15the mob beating so if I'm getting hit in
0:18the head you got a brain hemorrhage
0:20multiple times regions yes they were
0:23bashing me on the back of my head and to
0:26my eyes but so how do you know you had
0:29brain hemorrhaging and how are you able
0:31to just walk around well I was taken to
0:33I started losing my balance after the
0:36beating mm-hmm there was no police made
0:39it to the courthouse sat down on the
0:41ground ambulance was called I had to
0:44walk back to the ambulance because the
0:46streets were walked back to the police
0:48precinct in the direction of the mob the
0:50medics that were associated with the
0:52Portland Police let me know that they
0:54thought I needed to walk in that
0:55direction it was quite shocking because
0:57it was I just been a victim of the small
1:00beating and then now they telling me to
1:02walk back in their action of the Sunter
1:05precinct where the beating had happened
1:07did they not know that you had been
1:08beaten up well it's let's let's set this
1:11up for people who are new to this and
1:13don't understand what happened I've been
1:16aware of you because of you had written
1:19for Colette right and you had become one
1:24of these for whatever reason
1:26controversial online journalists and you
1:30covered aunt Eva quite a bit and you
1:32covered a lot of the radical left you
1:35were in Portland and what was the exact
1:40rally that was going on what was it
1:43called
1:43did it have a name it was something like
1:47protect Portland so it was organized by
1:50row city on tufa and its allies and by
1:54its allies I mean I'm referring to the
1:56local chapter of the Democratic
1:58Socialist America came out to support
2:00them in numbers and what are they
2:02protecting Portland from they allege
2:05fascist fascists but just in general I
2:09mean is there like a particular thing
2:11they're worried about there were two
2:13right-wing events happening that day
2:15that they were countered demonstrating
2:18against there was a on one part one part
2:21of downtown the proud boys were holding
2:23a flag waving event that was completely
2:27peaceful there was no actually flag
2:29waving American flag waving correct okay
2:31a lot of Portland has found that
2:34provocative and a manifestation of
2:37fascistic violence and in another part
2:40of downtown there was a men's rights
2:42activist who was holding a rally it was
2:48titled for victims of domestic terrorism
2:50it was an anti anti feh event hey so a
2:56men's rights activist yes that was doing
3:00an anti-fascist or anti anti feh Christ
3:04well what boy seems like a whole lot of
3:08do about nothing flag waving and anti
3:11ante foe okay yes can I set the context
3:14for please for the city of Portland it's
3:16a mess you have listeners and viewers
3:18all over the world so Portland Oregon is
3:21a extremely progressive city in the
3:24Pacific Northwest of the US and I call
3:28it a political monoculture because
3:30really it's not just you're more likely
3:35to find socialists open socialist there
3:38than you would find like a regular
3:40Republican or conservative and within
3:43the sort of echo chamber of just leftist
3:46politics there's it's become also a
3:49hotbed for far-left militancy so Rose
3:53City antifa is you could call it like
3:55the local chapter movement of anti feds
3:58one of the oldest in the country it's
4:00very large important and they hold what
4:05you could call protest but they're there
4:07their protests are always devolve into
4:08riots where they essentially take over
4:11parts of downtown and attack people
4:14attack their ideological opponents and
4:16do it frequently with impunity I mean I
4:19wasn't only one attack that day there
4:21were two other people who were bashed on
4:23the head very in
4:25and have very severe lacerations to the
4:26face on head you may recall the footage
4:29from October of last year
4:31when there was elderly driver who was
4:33attacked on the streets yeah they were
4:36directing traffic exactly in and somehow
4:39or another the mayor thought it was a
4:40good idea to let this take place is that
4:42the case and they told the police to
4:43stand down is that true
4:45so I mean the next part of this journey
4:50for me will be the legal aspect of it
4:53and it seems like something stinks in
4:55Portland the issue is really not with
4:58the rank-and-file officers they're
5:00following orders to not intervene so I I
5:03have been assaulted and criminally
5:07harassed early before the mob beating
5:09people throwing milkshakes at my face
5:11and head within eyesight of police who
5:14were watching in downtown and both of
5:17these were reported in the dancer that I
5:19heard that day as I've heard many times
5:21before when I've been assaulted by an
5:22tyfa is that we will not question
5:25approach or detain the suspect because
5:29this couldn't Slyke the crowd okay so
5:31this is why this has exacerbate or this
5:34is why this has become such a big deal
5:36in Portland because of this attitude
5:37because Portland seems to be the hotbed
5:40right now for this kind of stuff is that
5:42is that fair to say I think it is so is
5:45this the mayor I mean who is who's the
5:48one who's giving the orders to the
5:50police to tell them to allow this stuff
5:52to take place well I'm crowdfunding for
5:56the legal phone right now and we are
6:00willing we are going to hold accountable
6:02whoever is responsible for dereliction
6:05of duty where the evidence leads us so
6:08Portland has a odd governance system in
6:12that the mayor who is up for reelection
6:14by the way is also the police
6:18commissioner so oh wow yeah how does
6:23that work it is an old system that it
6:26inherited and it just and never changed
6:28from the Wild West like that sounds
6:30ridiculous yeah it is ridiculous you can
6:32see all the political conflicts and in
6:36conflicts of interest that that would
6:38arise right
6:38yeah yeah shitload how did you get
6:42involved in this like what why first of
6:44all why would they ingry you I I work as
6:49a journalist I'll name like places that
6:51I've been published before I write and I
6:53do video and I do podcasts so my written
6:55work has been published in The Wall
6:57Street Journal the National Review
6:58Spectator New York Post I'm also on the
7:01editorial team of Colette magazine and
7:05one of my beats amongst Averell is about
7:08far-left militancy particularly in
7:10Portland and to me what I was noticing
7:13was that the national and local media
7:16coverage had a particular blind spot
7:19when it came to their coverage on an
7:22tyfa there was all this sensitivity to
7:26the : unquote far-right and white
7:29nationalism or white identity extremism
7:33but they could not or would not
7:36recognize the militancy that was on the
7:39left in Portland seemed to be one of the
7:41places for Ground Zero particularly
7:43after 2016 we had very violent rioting
7:48in downtown the a segment of the
7:51population could not accept the election
7:53results in November and so they did a
7:56million dollars in damage setting fires
7:59and destroying properties and businesses
8:02and at that time I was a graduate
8:04student working at the Student Paper and
8:06I destroyed on that and I came out to
8:10witness in it it you know this was a
8:12major American city but it felt like I
8:16was in Afghanistan or Iraq just with all
8:19these fires and explosions and people
8:21running around with bats while massed up
8:23and that was first time I really became
8:24familiar with anti-fun I took an
8:26interest in it and I saw over and over
8:29look the media coverage was basically
8:31really sort of whitewashing then kind of
8:35like referring to them as anti-fascist
8:38giving them that propaganda victory and
8:42anti-fascism movement the Masters of
8:45doublespeak and disinformation so it
8:48starts with the name anti father is
8:50short for anti
8:52but I never refer to them as that
8:54because that's seeding the ground - to
8:59them they when they say that they are
9:03defending a community self-defense it
9:06actually is referring to meat
9:08premeditated violence in offensive
9:10violence so I started going to covering
9:15this more and more you know after I left
9:17the student paper I started writing for
9:20some national international publications
9:23and the internationally there was a you
9:28know set of readers who interested in
9:29what the hell is going on in Portland
9:32why are there these continued scenes of
9:34street brawls and anarchy over and over
9:36what are the variables that are causing
9:39this and I thought that I could try to
9:43shine a light on it and by doing so an
9:46tyfa became enraged with my work and
9:51particularly things they hated me since
9:53last year but they started really
9:56escalating on on the 1st of May May Day
10:02so this year was when I was physically
10:07assaulted by them for the first time
10:09they were very upset that I wrote a
10:13story from the New York Post where there
10:16was a series of and this is one of the
10:18other beats that I work on his hate
10:21crime hoaxes and Portland earlier this
10:24year I had this huge panic over serious
10:28allegations of LGBT people claiming that
10:32they were marauding right-wing gangs
10:33driving around trying to kill people
10:36with bats with hammers trying to kidnap
10:39them and these were all rumors that were
10:42reported on social media caused a huge
10:44frenzy even the mayor had to come out
10:47and you know issue statement about how
10:50he was concerned there was an emergency
10:51Town Hall with the the local queer
10:55center and so I started looking into all
10:58these allegations there was 15 of them
11:00and I found that of the 15 only one was
11:04reported to police and what was your
11:05reported to police and documented in the
11:08report was entirely different from the
11:10GoFundMe we're over ten thousand dollars
11:12was raised for this trans activist she
11:15had alleged that one night walking home
11:18transphobic people had beat her with the
11:20bat and knocked her unconscious police
11:23report said that she was extremely
11:25intoxicated and likely fell and there
11:27was no evidence that anybody had
11:29assaulted her so when I the story came
11:32out because IMT file was really anti fun
11:35the Democratic Socialist America in
11:37Portland were really involved in
11:38peddling this hate crime fear in
11:40Portland and I just kind of you know
11:44threw water on this was panic that they
11:47have been flaming and so on the first of
11:52May there was a write that I was
11:55covering in one of the mast I don't see
11:57Fela people went up and sprayed me with
12:00I think it was bear mace some type of
12:01chemical that blinds you and burns you
12:04yeah I saw the video yeah so there was
12:08no police that that was there that I
12:10mean that anti fire that was publicly
12:13advertised on Facebook and all that so
12:15over and over like antifa is very
12:17transparent about their calls for people
12:20to come to the stuff in to engage in
12:22this physical confrontation that they
12:24call self-defense and the police either
12:27stay away or on purpose or are told to
12:31stay away so it's very confusing because
12:35when you watch the videos there's
12:36amazing people there amazing people who
12:38disagree with them like they're yelling
12:40at each other and then someone will come
12:41along and mace people and for the police
12:44to not step in and do something it's I
12:47don't I don't think there's another city
12:49in the country that would allow
12:51something like that it just doesn't it
12:52doesn't seem like it makes any sense at
12:54all because you're you're not talking
12:55about people that are being physically
12:56attacked and that are macing someone to
12:58protect themselves or even a threat of
13:00being physically attacked they're just
13:02disagreeing with each other and yelling
13:04at each other and then someone will come
13:05along and start macing people and I've
13:08seen it many times and I think there's
13:10also a real problem with people wearing
13:12masks
13:13you know what whether there are ideology
13:15makes sense or not when you put people
13:17in masks
13:18and then you have a bunch of people
13:19yelling and escalating and then there's
13:20teams there's team antiva versus team
13:23you know anybody opposing them they feel
13:26is a white supremacist or a Nazi and
13:30this is just how they've chosen to frame
13:32it to dehumanize people and then you see
13:34them attack people I'm sure you're aware
13:35of the girl who got maced in the face
13:37because she had a hat on that said make
13:38Bitcoin great again but it was the same
13:41color hat as the make America great
13:43again hat and she got maced in the face
13:44and she got hit with something too right
13:46didn't she get hit in the face with
13:48something anyway this kind of [ __ ] is
13:51really weird it's really weird and
13:54disturbing to see these young people
13:56with these ideal idealistic versions of
13:58what they're doing I think a lot of the
14:00people that are involved in that really
14:01think they are fighting fascism they
14:04really do they really think that Donald
14:05Trump and the proud boys and white
14:07supremacists from Charlottesville
14:09carrying tiki torches that these people
14:11represent something horrible that's
14:13sweeping across the country and the
14:15young people today need to stand up and
14:18fight against this and they're putting
14:19on masks and they're carrying backpacks
14:20and whacking people in the head with
14:22crowbars is really [ __ ] weird to see
14:25and it's really weird that the city of
14:28Portland or all cities in fact haven't
14:31made some sort of a law where you can't
14:33walk around in public with a [ __ ]
14:35mask on because that is one of the
14:37things that helps these people it's the
14:39same thing that you see on social media
14:41when people are anonymous and they say
14:43the most horrible hateful [ __ ] they're
14:45saying that because they're not in front
14:46of you you can't recognize them they
14:48don't have to take responsibility for
14:49what they're saying this is a lot of the
14:52same characteristics that a person has
14:54when they're wearing a costume you're
14:56dressed in all black with gloves on and
14:58a face mask and you're hitting people
14:59with a bike lock like what what is that
15:01about
15:02well what that's about is you're getting
15:04away with being anonymous and you're
15:06getting support from all these other
15:07people around you there's this mob
15:09mentality that takes place it's well
15:11documented with humans where when you
15:14get a group of people together and
15:15there's another group and it's like it's
15:17a tribal warfare type situation and
15:19that's what you're seeing within teeth
15:21and the fact that the Portland Police
15:23have I don't know what's going on with
15:25them whether they've been told to not
15:27handle that but the fact they haven't
15:28done anything to mitigate this is
15:30[ __ ] it's it's embarrassing
15:32it's it's a shame it's it's terrible it
15:35really is it's a it's a travesty you
15:38asked about the mayor earlier and and if
15:41he issued any stand-down orders there's
15:43a statement that was put out after I was
15:46attacked by the paddle turner who's the
15:48president of the police union and he
15:49said very clearly he called from the
15:51mayor to remove the handcuffs handcuffs
15:54of law enforcement so they can enforce
15:56the law and he accuses the mayor of
15:59politicizing the police department is
16:02this mayor popular no he's not he's
16:06hated well by moderates because of the
16:11things that he allows to up in the city
16:12but the Father hate him as well they
16:14view him as not radical enough
16:24[Applause]

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