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0:00welcome to uncommon knowledge I'm Peter
0:02Robinson a publisher columnist and
0:04blogger Andrew Breitbart is the founder
0:06of the Breitbart network of
0:08investigative news websites including
0:10breitbart.com
0:11breitbart.com
0:13big Hollywood big journalism and big
0:17peace big Cosmos is surely on the boards
0:20I need to have a big synthesis and get
0:22it down to one portal Andrew's new book
0:25Andrew breitbart's new book righteous
0:27indignation Excuse me while I save the
0:30world Andrew Breitbart welcome thank you
0:33the liberal grows up segment one you
0:35describe in righteous indignation a
0:39privileged upbringing in Southern
0:41California exclusive schools very
0:43comfortable circumstances your parents W
0:45particularly political but they were
0:47more or less conservative and then this
0:50I'm quoting from the book through some
0:52form of Osmosis I considered myself a
0:55liberal how come uh my parents didn't
0:58fight for my uh to to maintain what it
1:02was they were teaching me through their
1:04deeds and their acts they are very
1:06silent generation I grew up around uh uh
1:10with friends who had younger baby boomer
1:12parents and they were very uh forthright
1:15in their politics they would go to their
1:17rock concerts they'd go to their Rock
1:18for campuchia they'd fly to Philadelphia
1:21for live a and I remember my mother
1:24would watch uh uh uh Lawrence wel on
1:28Saturday nights the gure position the
1:31jop position of that's not a hard choice
1:33you where the action was it was and so
1:36as much as I loved my parents uh the the
1:39flow towards my friends and their
1:42parents' way of life and way of thinking
1:44was the most natural thing in the world
1:47I loved my parents but rejecting their
1:51Orthodoxy was simple once again from
1:53righteous indignation a turning point
1:56you're at you're in New Orleans you're
1:58studying at Tain you're sitting down for
2:00a math exam quote and you're not doing
2:03well I started to consider that maybe
2:05years of skating by recklessly expecting
2:08everything to work out had been exactly
2:09the wrong approach to derivatives nice
2:12sentence by the way apparently I realize
2:14sometimes it doesn't work out sometimes
2:16you do have to make it work out which
2:18means that values do matter close quote
2:23Andrew you're raised in a conservative
2:25family and come out a liberal you go to
2:29what you call I don't have experience of
2:31tan but I have no reason to doubt you
2:32any it's any Humanities Department USA
2:35and I hate to do this to Tang because
2:37I'd love to be invited back there to to
2:39speak to to the students to tell them
2:41about an alternative approach I
2:42guarantee it lies in your future at some
2:44point somebody will fund a trip to to
2:46Lane but it's a liberal it's a an
2:48American University of its time and you
2:50come out of that a conservative how did
2:52this happen uh well you were swimming
2:54against I was an I was an American
2:56Studies major and I really did think
2:58that when I chose that
3:00um that it would be reading about the
3:03Constitution the founding the
3:04Constitution the founding fathers Mark
3:07Twain and sort of a benign approach
3:09towards the American experience and I
3:12didn't realize this until afterwards
3:14because I I can say this with absolute
3:16Authority uh had I not graduated I had I
3:20not been given my diploma it would have
3:22only been me to blame I when in New
3:25Orleans do as the New Orleans I really
3:28did partake in the culture down there
3:30and I can't believe I did graduate but
3:32there was a point where Marty gr every
3:33night for Andrew breart it was and it
3:35was as depressing as it was ecstatic and
3:38fun it was just it was it was a it was a
3:40prison of decadence and it was four
3:43years of nonstop where people would come
3:46and visit me from my former life in Los
3:49Angeles and they'd leave saying it was
3:50the best time of their lives and as they
3:53as they'd get on the plane to depart the
3:56Balia I would whisper under my breath
3:59please take me with you because it just
4:03it was it was Groundhog Day it was every
4:06single it was the mon it wait wait it
4:09was the Monday nights it was the Monday
4:11nights when people say do you want to go
4:13out and I said no I think I'm going to
4:15stay in and study and then 15 minutes
4:18later I'd go out and I I'd meet them so
4:20I I really didn't uh I didn't dedicate
4:23myself to Academia and it was only after
4:25I graduated when I got a letter or an
4:28email I don't remember remember the
4:30exact year I think it was around 1994
4:32asking me to assess my degree you know
4:36it was a it was self assessment an
4:38assessment of it and I started to look
4:40through the books wondering what was
4:43that I I I I I I what was that education
4:47and and what I remember was to
4:49synthesize
4:51it I've watched cpan my entire life and
4:55I remember I I've watched gome Chomsky
4:58talk in this strange in this jargon that
5:02is not accessible to the average person
5:05and I remember thinking to myself there
5:07was a period there in my American
5:09studies class where I was hearing the
5:11word
5:13deconstruction and semiotics a bit too
5:16many times and and I'm like what's going
5:18on here what is this language what are
5:20they trying to do and I started to
5:22analyze the courses that I took and I
5:25realized that it was cultural Marxist uh
5:28cultural
5:30like this is kind strange I thought that
5:32this was supposed to be American studies
5:35not German Italian nihilistic Theory so
5:39in a way it's just as well that you were
5:40deatched all four years I that's the
5:42whole point of that chapter is that I
5:44think alcohol saved me um you go you I
5:49don't want my own College age children
5:51to hear that line we'll we'll I'll edit
5:53that line out from the version they see
5:55after two lane you go back to Los
5:56Angeles and and scrape around you end up
5:59waiting table you get a job as a courier
6:01at a production company and an important
6:04moment comes when you you know at the
6:07man who will become your father-in-law
6:09the comedian and actor Orson Bean known
6:12to people of a c certain generation from
6:14to tell the truth known to people of
6:16another generation from Desperate
6:18Housewives and you at well here I'll
6:21just quote to you from righteous
6:22indignation one day I asked Orson why he
6:25had Rush limbo's book The Way Things
6:27ought to be on his shelf I was convinced
6:29to the core of my being that Rush limbo
6:32was a Nazi anti-black anti-jewish and
6:34anti- all things decent Orson simply
6:36suggested that I listen to him again and
6:39what happened when you did well it was
6:42the 1992 election cycle and at that
6:44point I thought I was a liberal and I
6:47started listening to to rush simply
6:49because um my alternative radio station
6:54had turned into a grunge rock festival I
6:57loathed Kirk Kobe and
6:59and uh Eddie veter so much that I
7:04switched to the am dial out of
7:05desperation and so that's really I I
7:07have to thank Grunge music for turning
7:09me into a conservative and I remember
7:11the first month or two thinking well I
7:16may not agree with his politics but at
7:19no point have I heard him intimate
7:21anything that appears to be racist
7:23sexist or homophobic and I started to
7:26ask people around me have you ever
7:27listened to this Rush Li creature and
7:30they said yes he's a racist sexist and a
7:31homophobe I said okay I need some help
7:35here cuz I've been listening now for
7:37months as I'm driving on La freeways
7:39delivering scripts he's not he's not and
7:43what I realized was is I believed the
7:45the core of my being that I had listened
7:47to him if you had given me a lie
7:48detector test I promise you I would have
7:51passed because with conviction the
7:53culture the 60 Minutes report on him all
7:56of the things that I've been told uh
7:58reflected that negative stereotype but I
8:01in fact had never assessed him myself
8:04and recognizing that the mainstream
8:06media doesn't necessarily tell you the
8:08truth or tells you the truth from its
8:11ideological standpoint became became
8:13this Panacea for me where I started to
8:16challenge the mainstream media segment
8:18two the Democrat media complex again
8:20from righteous indignation limau like
8:23the professor I always wanted but never
8:25had created a vivid mental picture of
8:28the art architecture of a world that I
8:31resided in but couldn't see completely
8:33the Democrat media complex describe the
8:37architecture well it's the Matrix I mean
8:39it really for me it was if you've ever
8:42been to Coney Island and you see those
8:45Holograms where there's a picture of the
8:47Empire State Building and you're
8:49supposed to squint and you squint and
8:51you squint and you can't see it but
8:53eventually you see the Eiffel Tower and
8:57you're like and like and then once you
8:59see the Eiffel Tower you canot see the
9:02Eiffel Tower and through every day Rush
9:06Limba analyzing The Source material of
9:09the world the New York Times The
9:11Washington Post CNN ABC CBS and NBC he
9:16was able to create for me a a very Vivid
9:19uh picture that the people who were
9:22allegedly objective and neutral
9:24reporters and journalists were the the
9:27front line of of the political battle
9:31and they used their objectivity as their
9:34greatest weapon because they were
9:35telling young impressionable people like
9:37me who believed in Woodward and
9:39Bernstein and who believed in uh Walter
9:42kronite wait a second you're telling me
9:45that perhaps ideology played a role in
9:49how they interpreted stories or how they
9:51chose one story over the other and so
9:53then the Matrix of the Democrat media
9:55complex became everything to me in fact
9:59when discussing politics I always turn
10:01it back to the complex it's always about
10:04seeing the world and hoping that people
10:06see the eiil power so this is you're
10:10listening to limbo in '92 during that
10:13election cycle right and you rem what
10:16I'm getting at here is who is the
10:17Democrat media complex then and who is
10:20the Democrat media complex now what's
10:23changed what's changed uh other than uh
10:26much has changed actually and that's the
10:29new media and that's that's the whole
10:31point of this entire book is that Rush
10:34took the mor abund am dial and at the
10:37end of the day was a media critic but he
10:39was a Relentless media critic and he was
10:41exposing to he wasn't just working with
10:44ditto heads if dittoheads were what rush
10:46limbo were about they could care less
10:49about just let him be and talk to the
10:51yokal out there in the Hinterlands
10:53they're worried about Andrew breitbart's
10:56of the world people that would actually
10:57listen to what he has to say and awaken
11:01people so that they can see that these
11:03people are using the media as a way to
11:06reinforce a herd mentality uh W within
11:09the culture and so what I see now is
11:12they used to get away with it Rush Limba
11:15took the moraband am dial and now it's a
11:17flourishing realm where countless people
11:20from Michael medvid to Dennis Prager to
11:22Shan Hannity are showing people or
11:25granting people a perspective uh or the
11:28alternative reality from the mainstream
11:30media and Matt drudge comes along in
11:331995 and he tells people hey look you
11:35don't need to have an AM uh radio
11:38station which costs a lot of money and
11:40you have to have a certain skill set he
11:41said look if you have a modem and a
11:43computer you can enter this thing we're
11:45now 20 plus years into this New Media
11:49Revolution and the difference is is
11:51there is open media Warfare now between
11:54Katie kurick and the rushing ball in the
11:58match I just the world we are a
12:00polarized Nation this is a civil war
12:03based upon communication okay so here's
12:06let me take um here again quoting from
12:08righteous indignation I you I Andrew
12:11breor I'm at war with the mainstream
12:13media I'm at war with the mainstream
12:15media because they portray themselves as
12:18objective observers reality when they're
12:20hacks who think they can destroy
12:22everything America stands for but
12:24shouldn't you relax things are working
12:26out things are working out there's Fox
12:29News there's Rush limo there all of
12:32that's not enough that's not enough
12:34that's not enough this is what angers me
12:35so about the that's what I want to know
12:38why aren why aren't you more relaxed
12:39we're 20 years into it just as you said
12:40why you say oh okay I'll take a I'm
12:43spend half my time on the beach in AM
12:45radio an oped column and Fox News is not
12:49enough the big what do you want what do
12:51you want I want uh I want a center right
12:54Nation to fight for its soul and its
12:56soul is represented in the Arts it soul
12:59is represented in in in in in a in a
13:02world in which media is everything AM
13:05radio is the lowest form of
13:08communication it's it's it's it's it's
13:10tiny it's not it's it's it's not robust
13:13it's not Avatar I want Avatar I want the
13:17right to enter the world of media to the
13:20extent and invest in media the way that
13:23the left does George Soros is throwing
13:25money like crazy you want an NPR I want
13:28everything I want us I want right they
13:31have an NPR they're so slick in
13:34understanding how important media is
13:35they've convinced the government to pay
13:37them to propagate their worldview how
13:40come we're not fighting for money to
13:42propagate our worldview because we don't
13:43believe in it okay then use the free
13:45market to convey the same ideas with the
13:47same level of sophistication and
13:49Excellence that NPR does because they
13:51are superior at what they do just as
13:54John Stewart is superior at what he does
13:57I grant Hol hwood and the the experts uh
14:01in propaganda for what they do Adit that
14:04they're good in fact that's what annoys
14:05you that it annoys me and it annoys that
14:07our side does not commit to this battle
14:10all right segment three let's go through
14:12your the background of your life here in
14:15fighting this fight that you've just
14:16described righteous indignation I
14:18intentionally co-created this is a
14:20little tricky problem here for you
14:21Andrew I intentionally co-created The
14:23Huffington
14:24Post I Andrew Breitbart intentionally
14:27co-created The Huffington Post
14:29in order to Grant the hard left of place
14:31in the blogosphere to express itself
14:33okay explain yourself uh I had been
14:35Ariana Huffington's researcher up until
14:38the point where she converted on a dime
14:40one day we you knew Ariana when she was
14:42still conservative oh absolutely she dug
14:44up Larry Lawrence from Arlington
14:46National Cemetery thank you AR Larry
14:48Lawrence Larry Lawrence was the
14:50Ambassador Clint ambassador from
14:51Switzerland Clinton's number one donor
14:54and he granted him a waiver to be in
14:55Arlington National Cemetery he had never
14:58even been in the merchant marines so she
15:01had her credentials scand that's right
15:03and I enjoyed being with her when she
15:05was a conservative but I walked out the
15:07door when she switched to the left she
15:09came to me 5 years later 5 years of
15:12awkward air kissing at parties that we
15:15would run into each other uh she came to
15:17me after the 2004 election cycle and
15:20said do you have any ideas for a
15:22website and she had a money guy and we
15:26came up with the plan and it was to
15:28create this place where if we could get
15:30your friends who you couldn't afford to
15:32write for you to write for you for free
15:36it would be exceptionally helpful to you
15:38you'll be the queen of the leftwing
15:39blogosphere I said but from my
15:41standpoint right now if you want to hear
15:44what the actual left has to say not
15:47Katie Kirk pretending to be neutral what
15:49the left has to say all there is on the
15:51internet in 2004 is the daily cost where
15:55a Peter Robinson could write an oped uh
15:59bush is the equivalent to Hitler under a
16:02pseudonym two Live Crew 33
16:053378 and that constituted a transparency
16:09within the media where well an
16:11opaqueness where these people could
16:14write these things and and and cost
16:16himself was being put on Meet the Press
16:20and so I said Ariana you can become the
16:23online the salon that you have at your
16:25house you can put online and it worked
16:28it but the idea was and I said this to
16:31any number of brand name people that I
16:33have in my life from the radio this is
16:36this is going to be crazy because I've
16:38gone to Young Americas Foundation you
16:40know uh events and I've talked to these
16:42kids and they know me to be the real
16:44deal I mean what I say and I say what I
16:46mean and I'm conservative but I think
16:47this is going to be helpful for
16:50conservatives because it will be Source
16:52material um and the first day that it
16:55launched and I was worried about being
16:58Huffington the post launch I was driving
17:00up Lincoln Boulevard worried because I
17:02was getting emails from people saying
17:04how could you do this and I listened to
17:06Michael Medved uh on the first day that
17:09it launched reading aloud Rob riner's
17:14first day post where are the Woodwards
17:16and bernsteins of today to take on uh
17:20George Bush and he was howling and I was
17:23howling in the car and I was tearing up
17:27uh just thinking this guy this guy this
17:29Meathead guy who wants to add a p you
17:31know a dollar you know to every
17:33cigarette pack to pay for lettuce
17:35patches or something this incoherent guy
17:38proved my point and and within six I
17:41left within a month and I remember one
17:43point this is my favorite moment during
17:47Katrina Randall Robinson at the
17:49huffingham post wrote an article two
17:52days into the flooding that black people
17:55were cannibalizing each other in New
17:57Orleans and and drudge put it up uh a
18:01link at The Drudge Report and within 24
18:04hours Ariana called me up and she said
18:07you won I said what do you mean you won
18:09she goes we retracted the story so I
18:12want this was this was I swear I'm a
18:15mischievous guy I I to a great extent I
18:18was more inspired okay Andrew 20 years
18:21or whatever it's been 15 years later
18:22who's winning in the internet you've got
18:24Ariana just sold the Huffington Post
18:25she's continuing to operate it from AOL
18:28move v.org daily these are still big
18:30yeah you've got your enormous number
18:32your number who's winning well I think
18:35that I conservative and libertarian has
18:38I think look the media is still left of
18:41center and they're trying to buffer up
18:44their waning Enterprise their waning uh
18:47Monopoly by giving $350 million to
18:50Ariana Huffington is AOL coming to me
18:53saying wow you've got this audience of
18:55of of the center right it wouldn't Dawn
18:57on them because because it is the war
18:59that I've described who's winning well
19:02monetarily they still are controlling
19:04the majority of the pieces but so there
19:06still something second class second rate
19:08about the conservative course of course
19:09but what we are winning tactically
19:12because you know Hannah James Hannah
19:14Giles and James O'Keefe took down Acorn
19:17uh with a high quality ta uh video
19:21series uh that cost less than $1,400
19:25which sends a message to the average kid
19:27out there that if ABC CBS and NBC are
19:30not going to cover things and and act as
19:33a checks and balance against Progressive
19:35organizations against the AFL CIO
19:37against the uh SEIU acor and other
19:40community organizing groups then we can
19:42do it ourselves and we're having an
19:45effect going around the main the
19:47Democrat media complex over it or right
19:51straightforward and my business model is
19:53to aim every one of our exposes straight
19:55at the mainstream media and say Katie KK
19:58uh you are being dared not to cover this
20:01all right segment four the theory of
20:04which you have more in this book than
20:05I'd expected righteous indignation a lot
20:08gets explained here Marx and Hegel had
20:11paved the way for the progressives who
20:13in turn had paved the way for the
20:14Frankfurt School who had then attacked
20:16the American way of life by pushing
20:18cultural Marxism through critical theory
20:22there's a lot going on there very
20:24briefly what's the Frankfurt School and
20:27why should anyone watch watching this
20:28interview care okay first of all anyone
20:31that reads this book is going to get is
20:33going to laugh and they're going to cry
20:34and they're going to get Andrew in all
20:36of his zany different multi multiple
20:38layers but there's one chapter that is
20:41like putting the medicine in the sherbet
20:44in order to get your kid to take it in
20:46order to get rid of his his his fever
20:49and to me my one Discovery my one great
20:53Epiphany my one aha moment that I said I
20:57I got it I got it I see what exactly
20:59happened with with in this country the
21:02Frankfurt School were immigrates from uh
21:06uh Germany austa well Germany in there
21:09was a it was the equivalent of this the
21:11Hoover institution what the Hoover
21:12institution is to Stanford University
21:15the frankfur uh school was a think tank
21:18at at the University of Frankfurt and
21:20they were social scientists uh like
21:22arber marusa Antonio grami uh horkheimer
21:26adorno the were all bunch of guys in in
21:29the middle of World War II who had
21:31suffered Europe in Europe you know two
21:34world wars in a row and they had been
21:36fighting they had been fighting the
21:38Nazis and they were trying to figure out
21:41another aspect of how to uh affect how
21:46how to spread Marxism around the world
21:49you could go to Bolivia you could go to
21:51Bulgaria and you could go to the peasant
21:53class and you could say let's let's flip
21:56this place the Marxist St argument of
21:59getting the workers to get upset at the
22:01owners uh was very easy but not in
22:03America where the middle class was
22:05invested in in their their productivity
22:09invested in the concept that they could
22:11have their own small little American
22:12Dream a white picket fence that they
22:14could invent something and go from one
22:16generation be being dirt poor to being
22:19an owner within a very quick period of
22:21time and what these guys figured out
22:23when they came to the United States and
22:25adorno is the one that drives me the
22:27most crazy
22:28I he came out to
22:30California um and I think it was berel
22:33bre the the the the East German
22:37playright moved to Santa Monica in the
22:391940s at the height of the Golden Age
22:42think about this these guys left these
22:45guys left Nazi Germany and molinis Italy
22:50to come to California in the 1940s and
22:52they lived by the beach and they were
22:55depressed by the Relentless cheeriness
22:57the the productivity and the capitalism
23:00that they witnessed around them and they
23:02came up with a a they came up with at
23:05the end of the day we could call it uh
23:07cultural Marxism but at the end of the
23:09day we experience it on a day-to-day
23:12basis and by that I mean a minute by
23:14minute second byc basis uh it's
23:17political correctness and it's
23:19multiculturalism and what it took was
23:21this amazing concept of eus Unum where
23:24everybody comes here and contributes to
23:27this this you know everybody becomes an
23:29American and contributes but we have a
23:31common culture we have a common border a
23:33common mindset what they did was take
23:36the halves versus hav Nots friction and
23:40translated it into uh oppressor versus
23:44the oppressed and it and it and this guy
23:46taken up by faculties across the country
23:49that's that's the point of the Frankfurt
23:51School and the progressive embraced by
23:536s post structuralism post structuralism
23:57queer stuff studies uh uh
23:59African-American studies all that all of
24:03that is pitting people against each
24:05other it is anti-American to its core if
24:08maruza was the I'm quoting again from
24:10righteous indignation if maruza was the
24:12Jesus of the new left then Saul Alinsky
24:14was his St Paul again let me just put it
24:18to you simple terms who's sa Alinsky and
24:20why should anyone watching this
24:21interview care
24:24well Hillary Clinton wrote her senior
24:27thesis on Saul Linsky at Welsley uh we
24:31uh Barack Obama is an acolyte of Saul
24:34Linsky he created the concept of
24:36community organizing and what he did as
24:39I argue in this book is he took all of
24:42this ethereal clap trap this gnome
24:45Chomsky like jargon that the average
24:47person couldn't understand Herbert
24:49maruza is very hard to read it's all
24:51it's all it's all impossible to read uh
24:55but he was able to translate this
24:58cultural Marxist down to a series of
25:01rules and a mindset a warrior mindset
25:05where the critical theory was like take
25:07on your enemy take him directly on
25:10destroy that person he applied critical
25:13theory down to the street War level and
25:16I would argue that the Katie Kirk of the
25:19world uh the Chris Matthews of the world
25:22uh Rachel mat and Keith alberman
25:25unbeknownst even to themselves are
25:28studied in the tactics of
25:30olinsky segment five the Breitbart
25:34pragmatic primer for realistic
25:36revolutionaries righteous indignation my
25:39transformation from empty-headed hard to
25:42believe you were over empty-headed but
25:44we'll let you get away with that my
25:45transformation from empty-headed pop
25:47culture infused talking points parting
25:50liberal to New Media Warrior took me
25:52four decades but those years in the
25:55wilderness taught me some basic rules
25:57that I I've applied steadily and
25:58steadfastly and that are bearing
26:00tremendous results close quote so you
26:02then present your own rules to answer
26:05Sola linsky's rules don't be afraid to
26:08go into enemy territory what do you mean
26:10by that I can't tell you how many people
26:12tell me don't go onto the bill marah
26:14show ah um take it right to them oh it's
26:17the best or and first of all I've had my
26:20greatest successes because I live in
26:22West Los Angeles ay my life is taking it
26:25to them I live in West Los Angeles I
26:28live amid you know the Hollywood
26:31rubble and when I do a bill marah show
26:36and I go to Starbucks the next morning
26:39and the Barista says I saw you on TV
26:41last night and I didn't like how the
26:44audience was booing you before you
26:45finished your sentences and I thought
26:48that you made an interesting point
26:50nobody nobody sought me out to reclaim
26:54me on behalf of my parents not even my
26:56parents I tripped upon conservatism my
26:59goal is to go out there and find someone
27:02else like me who' never even known what
27:05conservatism was and say Hey you know
27:08maybe I can draw you in I try and do it
27:11through mirth and humor a lot of the
27:12times in addition to uh the the investig
27:16investigative stuff that I do I mean
27:19when I say confront these people head on
27:21I mean I went down to the anti- coke
27:23rally on roller blades and a camera to
27:26get them to was your stuff that was your
27:28film well well though Christian Hartsock
27:30was there and I was there and we both
27:32captured unbelievable you know Pro
27:35violence rhetoric uh let's let's string
27:37up uh Clarence Thomas what these
27:40progressives had to say just terrible
27:41terrible stuff be open about your
27:44secrets be open about your secrets
27:46that's one of your rules what do you
27:47mean uh they're going to you know I I I
27:52talk about how I I drank a lot in
27:54college it's not a huge Revelation I
27:56don't think I drank more than the
27:58average person that was in New Orleans
28:00at the time but I always wake up at
28:02night thinking that the Alinsky ites you
28:05know the the Sid Blumenthal of the world
28:08uh the Fenton Communications of the
28:10world the Media Matters of the world the
28:11John podest of the worlds are going to
28:13find what your Achilles heel is and
28:14they're going to exploit it and so why
28:17not throw it out there Barack Obama did
28:20exactly that when he wrote in one of his
28:22books uh that he used that he
28:25experimented with drugs you have to do
28:27that because they're going to find it if
28:29you own it and you talk about what you
28:31learned from that experience or you show
28:33that you're human and not try to pretend
28:35to be a perfect public you know entity I
28:38think that you're going to be you're
28:40going to fear a zillion times better
28:42ubiquity is key what do you mean oh with
28:46the acorn thing uh this was a rare
28:50opportunity James and Hannah come to me
28:52with this James and Hannah two uh just
28:55out of college weren't they well yeah
28:56James is 25 Hannah was 20 at the time so
28:59she had not completed college and they
29:01gone and they gotten on tape Acorn go
29:04ahead tell the story tell it briefly
29:05though uh they posed as a pimp and a
29:07prostitute uh trying to start uh using
29:10government funds in many cases through
29:13uh and to get uh tips on how to avoid
29:16paying uh taxes from Acorn Obama's you
29:20know vaunted Community organizing group
29:23the community organizer Acorn and get
29:24all this stuff on tap yeah in every
29:26office except for one it was serviced
29:28with a smile and they knew that they
29:29couldn't go to ABC CBS or NBC in fact I
29:33actually went to ABC gets government
29:35money right they get government
29:37money I knew that this was almost
29:41violently important information that oh
29:45my gosh it was sort of like back when
29:47drudge did the Lewinsky thing this is
29:49going to cause heads to roll this is
29:52going to be a big deal how do I get this
29:54out there I guarantee you even in 20
29:58my putting that out there at
30:00biggovernment.com
30:01alone and hoping that it goes viral
30:04would not have been the successful
30:06strategy they would have uh sicked their
30:08lawyers the DNC Acorn I don't even know
30:12okay Kirkland analis they would have
30:14fought back fought back and shut it down
30:16the goal was to try and make sure that
30:19as many people got their uh were vested
30:23in showing this one thing I found about
30:25the conservative movement is there are a
30:27lot of people who are hyperco
30:28competitive people that you would think
30:30that would be friends with each other on
30:31they believe in competition they believe
30:33in competition and they fight so well
30:35let's uh you know you can if you're
30:38going to let so and so over at that
30:40station uh have an access to that video
30:43then then we're not going to put it on
30:45our station and I was like okay you guys
30:48this is a once- in a-lifetime
30:49opportunity to show a story that the
30:51mainstream doesn't want you to see and
30:55Ubi ubiquity is what made Acorn go down
30:59not that it was on a blog site you've
31:01got more rules but our time is limited
31:04final question what do you mean in your
31:06pragmatic primer for realistic
31:08revolutionaries and righteous
31:09indignation by Believe In The Audacity
31:13Of
31:15Hope well I'm my business partner hates
31:19this about me because every now and then
31:21I will compare myself to donkey hody
31:23because he doesn't like theing at that's
31:27right but I I I do believe that is that
31:29that many of the things that I've
31:32accomplished have H you know such as
31:34taking on the
31:36complex what what most of am talk radio
31:40does simply criticizes it from afar when
31:44I saw what they did to Clarence Thomas
31:47and you ju deposed what they did to
31:49Clarence Thomas next to anointing Bill
31:51Clinton for exhibiting the same behavior
31:53that they claimed that uh that Thomas
31:56was guilty of of when you see how they
31:59treat the Tea Party their default racist
32:01they have to disprove their racism I
32:04believe that the organism the natural
32:07organism that is the Democrat media
32:09complex behaves often times in an evil
32:13fashion my goal is to destroy the
32:15mainstream media as we currently know it
32:18so that it is more Equitable so that it
32:21is more fair it seems like an outrageous
32:24goal I'm not sure that there's a
32:26business model that's going to make it
32:28so that I'm going to have Rupert Murdoch
32:30like money but I hope that my children's
32:32generation exists in a more fair and
32:35Equitable media and the first thing that
32:38we're going to have to get rid of is
32:39this fake uh Declaration of objectivity
32:43and neutrality that is a big lie we need
32:47to move towards something that is a more
32:49mature version of what we have now more
32:52like the UK in Britain the newspapers
32:56are AOW left and right and they're
32:59mature about it we are just going
33:01through the Adolescent phase of
33:04recognizing that objectivity was the big
33:06lie of the latter part of the 21st 20th
33:09century Andrew we have to close because
33:12you have to get in a car and drive up to
33:14Marin County for an event promoting
33:17righteous indignation following your own
33:20first rule don't be afraid to go into
33:22enemy territory and you Andrew Breitbart
33:24author of righteous indignation thank
33:26you thank you for uncommon knowledge I'm
33:28Peter Robinson thanks for joining
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