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0:59[Music]
1:02hello can everybody hear us
1:06hello let me know if you can hear us
1:20well we're just gonna hope that you can
1:22all hear us because
1:25i don't see
1:27anyone in the chat
1:33hello
1:35how is everybody
1:36oh excellent you can hear me
1:39yeah is there a video now
1:42the video should have started
1:44we uh and i'm actually checking the chat
1:47today
1:52all right
1:58oh hi i'm
2:00oh awesome i just got a message from joe
2:03that
2:04uh you all can see us too
2:07so welcome to science story time with
2:10astra and special guest nova
2:14uh where we talk about horrible
2:17accidents which occurred during
2:19science experiments or
2:22just other just bad science choices
2:26earlier today
2:28on savvy's live stream i learned that
2:30there was a positive correlation
2:32between hair length and subscriber
2:35counts so just just so you all know the
2:37subscribers should be should be
2:39trickling in any any day now
2:42um
2:43so for anyone who is new to the channel
2:47or
2:47just coming in from the stream because
2:50you heard about me on savvy's stream
2:53this is bad astra where we learn about
2:56science with more costume changes than
2:58math
2:59i'm astra and i have a ba in physics and
3:03theater and a master's in mechanical
3:05engineering
3:06my wife is the smart one and she is in
3:09the home stretch of her phd
3:12in astrophysics the cute one cece is
3:15currently
3:16asleep uh
3:18oh hi
3:20this is the cute one she's cece
3:23uh so nova double checks a lot of my
3:26physics in astronomy but quote cannot be
3:29held accountable for anything squishy
3:31like chemistry or biology correct
3:35our main content is written by eris
3:38sarcastic which with occasional bouts of
3:41productivity
3:42if you like makeup tutorials
3:45this is completely different but you
3:46should subscribe anyways
3:50so
3:52uh coming up we have videos about uh the
3:55standard model where i answer important
3:58questions like which star trek character
4:00is which elementary particle you know
4:02the important parts of quantum mechanics
4:07and we're also going to have a video
4:09about evolution specifically how
4:11fearsome wolves became precious golden
4:14doodles
4:15hey
4:16hey cece you want to show off how wolfy
4:19you are
4:20yeah yeah hi
4:23hi everybody
4:26okay let's say hello
4:29before we get into it let's say hi to
4:32everybody in the chat
4:34okay oh paige is here hi paige pluto
4:38patron marcia remai is here
4:41hi marcia
4:43uh hp nick
4:45hi
4:46nice to see you in the chat i think is
4:48this your first time in the chat i
4:49haven't seen you before joe hello as
4:52always very good to see you patron joe
4:55emily chambers hi
4:57welcome to the chat
4:59uh you missed
5:00you missed a lot of fun this am
5:04um and it looks like cat benson couldn't
5:07stay but wanted to bring the aggressive
5:09by energy you
5:10i asked for yes i am very here for more
5:14aggressive buy energy thank you all
5:18so much for coming oh
5:21paige is our number one fan thank you
5:23paige
5:26oh number one fan at joe yes joe is
5:29definitely our number one fan that yes
5:31that is completely accurate
5:35okay
5:36so before we get into the story i feel
5:39like we should set the stage by learning
5:42what a particle accelerator is because
5:45today we are going to be talking about
5:49anatoly
5:50berkowski who stuck his head inside of a
5:54particle beam
5:56but what is a particle beam what's a
5:58particle accelerator what are particles
6:01you know how it is yes it's time to eat
6:03our eater science vegetables before we
6:05get into the fun stuff
6:07um
6:08so this is my favorite part so
6:11uh in order to understand fundamental
6:14laws of physics
6:15uh
6:17we especially particle physicists like
6:19to smash things together
6:21um so there's a joke that if you were to
6:24give a particle physicist a rolex
6:27and asked her how it worked she would
6:29take the rolex hurl it at the wall as
6:31hard as she could
6:33very carefully watch how it broke into
6:34pieces and then ask you for another one
6:37so
6:38joe asked if straight energy was okay
6:41straight energy is okay but only if it
6:45is chaotic enough to throw a rolex at a
6:47wall
6:49is that good we good
6:52and don't worry paige uh if
6:55paige the puppet if you have any uh
6:58questions for nova put them in the chat
6:59i am watching the chat and i will ask
7:01her for you
7:02great
7:03um
7:04no i love questions uh so yeah so the
7:07basic idea is
7:09we want to understand
7:12what we're made of the fundamental
7:14components of
7:17us of the universe and so that means
7:19that you basically take
7:21sub-atomic particles or atoms as a whole
7:24and you smash them into each other and
7:26then you see what comes out and you can
7:29basically
7:30follow the tracks of particles that come
7:32out of these collisions and learn things
7:34about how particles interact
7:36about what particles exist and so on you
7:40are basically trying to reverse engineer
7:44a car
7:46by watching a ton of car crashes
7:50essentially yeah
7:52um so how do
7:54uh part of
7:56by recreating the the circumstances or
7:59the conditions that were available
8:01around shortly after the big bang so
8:04early universe when things were hot
8:07lots of things were colliding like that
8:08car crash that astra mentioned
8:11um and so yeah in order to do that um
8:13you basically need to find a way to make
8:15particles go very very fast
8:18that means you need to accelerate
8:19particles
8:20uh now i actually study accelerated
8:22particles from space it does turn out
8:24that
8:25nature accelerates particles quite
8:27nicely and even more effectively than we
8:29can do so here on earth
8:31um thanks to the fact that we have big
8:33explosions in space like supernovae
8:35however the the issue with those
8:37particles is when they come and then
8:40collide
8:41uh with other particles in our
8:42atmosphere we can't just surround that
8:45collision point with detectors we can't
8:47see everything that comes out very
8:49effectively and so if we really want to
8:51do a controlled experiment and we want
8:53to see everything that's produced
8:55we need to accelerate these particles
8:56ourselves smash them together and then
8:59surround that collision point with every
9:02particle detector we can think of
9:05and that is basically where accelerators
9:08come into play
9:09so
9:10uh paige the puppet said that her mom
9:13failed physics because of a boy
9:15as you can probably guess i passed
9:18physics because of a girl
9:21she's very good at explaining things
9:23also uh s-t-s-t hello it's good to see
9:27you in the chat i think this is your
9:28first time in the chat welcome uh stst
9:32says such a cute doggie i assume she is
9:34the cutest she is she is the absolute
9:37cutest i assume that s-t-s-t has perfect
9:40taste yes because they are right about
9:42cece being the cutest yes
9:44oh we love her yes we love you
9:47oh and they said we're explaining things
9:48very well excellent
9:50thank you so how do you make particles
9:52go fast um so the basic idea is you use
9:55magnets um so if you have charged
9:58particles uh so think protons electrons
10:02etc
10:03uh in order to make them go fast
10:07uh you can use magnetic fields so it
10:09turns out that if you take a particle
10:12that's moving along and you place it in
10:14a magnetic field so basically between
10:16the north and south poles of a big
10:18magnet
10:19uh that particle's trajectory will curve
10:22and so
10:24there are a few different ways you can
10:26you know use magnetic field
10:27configurations to make a particle
10:30accelerate to change its direction but
10:31also to go faster
10:33um
10:34the kind of
10:36there are a few different
10:38applications or designs you can use
10:39depending on what
10:41science you want to do
10:43uh the simplest well not necessarily the
10:45simplest but the kind of easiest one to
10:48picture is called a linear accelerator
10:51or a linac um and so that's one where
10:53you basically put a bunch of magnets in
10:54a row and you accelerate particles in a
10:58straight line so you use a weird
11:00configuration of magnets to make the
11:01particles go like this
11:03and they get faster and faster and then
11:06you make them crash into something at
11:07the end of the line
11:09that's a fun way to do things you're
11:11driving a car at a wall
11:12yes a bunch yes a large amount of very
11:16small cars and uh pluto patron marcia
11:19rima actually asked why doesn't the
11:22smashing of the particles change the
11:25particles in such a way that you're
11:27looking at something different in fact
11:28it does so when you take a particle that
11:31has a lot of energy and you smash it
11:33into something you get different
11:35particles out um they're not even really
11:37the pieces of that particle they can be
11:40completely new things however
11:43you can learn about what particles
11:45you're getting out and that does tell
11:46you something
11:48about what fundamental particles exist
11:51how they behave how long they last
11:53and you can even see them forming into
11:55new particles so if you form some quarks
11:58those quarks will come together very
12:00very very quickly and form say a proton
12:04uh and so
12:05the way that you kind of keep track of
12:08everything and do all of your accounting
12:09to see you know what are these new
12:11particles how massive are they is you
12:14use two fundamental laws of physics
12:17conservation of momentum and
12:18conservation of energy and so the idea
12:21is the energy that goes in which you
12:23know because you built this thing is the
12:25energy that has to come out just
12:27distributed among a bunch of different
12:28particles and also the momentum that
12:31goes in so that's basically
12:33uh the particle mass broadly speaking
12:36particle mass times its velocity it's a
12:37little bit different when you're
12:39near the speed of light but broadly
12:41speaking
12:42how fast something is going
12:44how much mass it has so it has a
12:46direction to it that has to be conserved
12:48as well what goes in must come out and
12:50so you can basically use that to figure
12:53out
12:54what is coming out um and what kind of
12:57when you see these you know particles
12:58interacting with your detector you can
13:00use those equations to figure out what's
13:02missing so that's another thing is you
13:04can look for like missing matter
13:06um or something that doesn't interact in
13:08your detector you can use that to figure
13:10out
13:11um
13:13basically does all of my energy
13:15accounting make sense and also how
13:16massive are some of the particles that
13:18i'm getting out here yeah and
13:20when you think hmm this doesn't sound
13:24like a super accurate like you'd get a
13:26perfectly accurate picture every time
13:29that's actually correct uh for example
13:32when the higgs boson was discovered it
13:35was actually two years of data that was
13:39analyzed
13:41and there was a statistically
13:43significant
13:44likelihood
13:46that the higgs boson was there
13:48so
13:50this is kind of like you're smashing a
13:52car at a wall
13:53and you're taking a video of it
13:56but some say some of the energy gets
13:59turned into heat
14:00and you don't have an infrared camera
14:02that would be that missing matter
14:05um
14:06let me check the chat and then we can
14:08talk about the circle accelerators
14:10exactly uh
14:12so paige says mama's eldest son did a
14:15science fair project on electromagnets
14:17in grade one that's awesome awesome that
14:20sounds like an awesome experiment yeah
14:22uh stst says i used to believe the earth
14:25is flat i now fight conspiracy i'm
14:27trying to learn proper science i'd love
14:29to have you guys on for a chat sometime
14:32that sounds like a lot of fun uh we are
14:34to
14:35uh i think rachel oates called me an
14:37official science person and just made my
14:40week one time uh so we are two official
14:43science people we would love to come on
14:46and talk science uh we love science and
14:49we try to uh make it accessible for
14:51everyone because i think that's a thing
14:53that scientists need to do better
14:56um
14:58okay
15:02it was a huge misunderstanding of
15:04science mixed with thinking i was more
15:06intelligent than i am
15:08uh thinking you were more intelligent
15:09than you am than you are is
15:12actually um an effect of science it's
15:14called the dunning-kruger effect um so
15:17it is actually completely natural for
15:20humans without a huge amount of
15:22expertise on a topic to think uh they
15:25know more about it than they do everyone
15:27does it like it's a mess less you know
15:29about something the more you'll think
15:31you know about it that is not your fault
15:34uh it's not anyone's fault it's just a
15:36thing that exists uh and stst i'm really
15:39glad
15:40you are doing the work to learn i think
15:44that's awesome yeah it's also why
15:46getting a phd can be very demoralizing
15:49yeah uh because there is the reverse of
15:51the dunning-kruger effect called
15:53imposter syndrome which is basically the
15:55more you know about something the more
15:56you realize how little you know and then
15:59you just panic because you don't know
16:00anything
16:02and uh
16:03yeah getting a phd is is that process
16:07um
16:08yes so
16:10let's talk about
16:12uh this is a picture of fermilab i did
16:15want to mention one more thing you did
16:16make a very good point earlier on though
16:18when you were talking about
16:19uh multiple collisions and how you crash
16:22the car multiple times or again the the
16:24joke with the rolex it would take a
16:26whole lot of rolexes
16:28like billions of rolexes
16:30um before we would actually find out how
16:32it works so the idea is you get slightly
16:34different things out of each collision
16:36every time but you can see
16:38what happens most of the time so
16:41statistically most of the time you seem
16:43to get
16:44kind of a lot of particles in this one
16:47mass range you get this like bump at you
16:49know
16:50this this many giga electron volts
16:53um
16:54and so
16:56if that's the case
16:58uh
16:58then maybe you have a particle at that
17:01mass i should also mention gig electron
17:03volt is a is a unit of energy but mass
17:05and energy are kind of the same thing
17:07ish they're very closely related because
17:09mass can be converted to energy by e
17:10equals m c squared side note anyway
17:14did you just say
17:16mass and energy being the same will come
17:18up a lot in
17:20uh
17:21our quantum mechanics video which is
17:23coming out very soon if you want to
17:25learn more about particle physics that
17:27video is coming out um eris is writing
17:30it and eris has never studied particle
17:32physics uh so the science will be
17:35accurate but it will definitely be
17:37accessible
17:38to
17:39like someone without a science
17:41background and there will be a lot of
17:42star trek in it so yeah
17:44um no that'll be exciting anyway uh so
17:49uh astra has very kindly brought up this
17:52picture of the tevatron at cern
17:56uh so so far i've mentioned linux or
17:58linear accelerators so this kind of
18:00simple idea where you accelerate
18:01particles in a straight line and then
18:03you basically take that beam of
18:06particles and you dump it into a fixed
18:08target
18:09now if you want to get to even higher
18:10energies
18:12you can instead of accelerating
18:14particles in a straight line where you
18:15only get one shot to accelerate them
18:18accelerate them in a ring so here
18:20instead of having that one opportunity
18:23to get them up to speed you can have
18:26them go around and around and around and
18:29around and again you just confine them
18:31to that rim using magnets so the
18:34stronger your magnets
18:36the easier it is to confine particles or
18:39equivalently the faster the particles
18:41can go before they just fly off the
18:44track
18:45so
18:45if you want to get to really really high
18:47energies you want strong magnets the
18:49other thing you can do is you can make
18:51your ring bigger so the bigger the ring
18:54the less you need to make those
18:56particles curve
18:57and so that means that you can actually
19:00use weaker magnets but keep going around
19:03and around and around and they'll
19:05eventually get up to just as high of an
19:07energy
19:08um that is why uh bigger rings like
19:12bigger
19:13uh
19:14super colliders tend to have more energy
19:18because there's only so strong we can
19:19make magnets and keep them effective
19:21yeah and so yeah this uh what jordan is
19:24showing this is called the tevatron
19:26um it was used for many years at
19:30fermilab um it was responsible f for
19:33discovering i believe you the top or the
19:35bottom cork um possibly both
19:38uh so it has found some particles that
19:41are part of our standard model of
19:43particle physics kind of the fundamental
19:46um understanding of how
19:48of what we're made up of uh jordan will
19:50have a lovely video coming up on this
19:53soon
19:54astra
19:55astra sorry
19:57she is my wife
19:59i don't call her astra we use our online
20:02names here we do we do yeah um
20:06yeah i don't know who jordan is um
20:11we play caricatures of ourselves uh so i
20:14like to use fake names to remind people
20:16that this is not my actual personality
20:19it's okay it's a live stream it is kind
20:20of your personality um
20:22it's a caricature anyway
20:25um
20:26my bad
20:28uh so you send these particles around
20:31and around and around you basically
20:33try to build the biggest ring you can
20:35with the strongest magnets you can get
20:37your hands on uh which nowadays means uh
20:41super conducting magnets electromagnets
20:44and the idea is you can make a magnet
20:46using an electric current
20:48um and if the material that your
20:51electric current is in happens to be a
20:53superconductor that means that there's
20:55like no resistance like actually no
20:58resistance whatsoever in that material
21:00so you can get a really really high
21:02current lots of electricity in this
21:04thing that makes a really strong
21:05magnetic field and that is a really
21:07really good guide to force that beam of
21:10particles around your circle and to keep
21:12accelerating
21:15so with all of that
21:17the cool thing about the tevatron and
21:19other synchrotrons that's what we call
21:21these circular particle accelerators is
21:24you can also
21:25while you have
21:26one proton going around this way you can
21:30send an anti-proton going around the
21:32other way
21:33let's do it let's let's collide
21:37we tried
21:39and that way you get even more energy
21:42out of your collision because you want
21:43to you want a big big collision because
21:45now you have a head-on collision as
21:47opposed to just hitting a wall
21:49and so you know it's it's worse to hit a
21:51car head-on like it's worse to hit
21:53oncoming traffic than a wall
21:55um more energy
21:57not a good thing in a car crash great
21:58thing if you want to do particle vision
22:00please do not try this at home i promise
22:03we aren't lying to you please do not
22:06test by ramming your car into oncoming
22:09traffic or walls so the tevatron so this
22:12is at fermilab which is located in
22:14batavia illinois near-ish to chicago um
22:17but west uh this was the
22:19state-of-the-art
22:20biggest particle accelerator in the
22:22world for many years
22:24until it was overtaken
22:26uh
22:27by the large hadron collider at cern so
22:30this is a picture
22:32not of the whole accelerator you can't
22:33actually see
22:35any of the rings from above ground
22:38because everything is below ground but
22:39this is one of the detectors so this is
22:42a collision point and so particles would
22:46when this thing is all closed down
22:48be shooting through like toward you or
22:51away from you in that little circle part
22:53in the center and that's where the
22:55collision would happen and then all of
22:57that crap around it those are all
22:59detectors to the
23:01measure yeah take pictures of the
23:03particles coming out
23:05um so this is even bigger than the
23:08tavatron the large pattern collider lhc
23:11and it is still to this day the state of
23:13the art this is what found the higgs
23:16it's very famous
23:18and you can go sometimes see
23:22the detectors if you're lucky
23:25uh and they're not actually running
23:27experiments uh but unfortunately when i
23:29was there i didn't i only got to get to
23:32the opposite side of a six foot thick
23:34cement wall
23:36on the other side of one of those
23:38detectors
23:40this brings us to a little humble brag
23:43of novas she has actually interned at
23:46both fermilab
23:48and at the large hadron collider at cern
23:52um oh and beach eight uh says they live
23:5620 minutes from rhic
23:59um
24:00do you know where that is
24:01no where is that
24:04i don't know
24:05but that's awesome
24:07yeah that
24:09that's awesome
24:10uh so
24:11i thought it might be fun to take a
24:13little break from science
24:16uh because
24:18while nova was interning at cern
24:21uh i came and visited her as her friend
24:25this was
24:26months before we started dating uh but
24:28we had already been living together for
24:30one of her favorite stories to tell so
24:32now the whole internet gets the
24:34privilege
24:35i
24:36uh so fun thing about being a theater
24:38major there are often assignments where
24:40you have to perform
24:42sections of like
24:44work you've written and i am lazy so i
24:47would just take pieces of my diary clean
24:50it up a little and turn it into a
24:52performance piece because i am chaotic
24:55enough to not have any boundaries
24:58uh so this is
25:00a slightly modified version of a diary
25:04entry i made
25:07that i have not looked at since senior
25:09year of college
25:10so i'm just gonna read it and see what
25:12happens okay i'm just gonna i'm just
25:14gonna
25:15you're just gonna crack down and cringe
25:19i'm going to marry my best friend my
25:22future wife says she's straight but hear
25:23me out hear me out
25:25she's already my roommate but i'm in
25:27love with her and she's brilliant like
25:29interning at cern brilliant i'm
25:31researching in munich right now but i'm
25:33visiting her this weekend and i'm
25:35touring cern
25:36my future wife's lazy not with school
25:39work but with little things like getting
25:40wine for herself or filling out
25:42paperwork so i always pour her wine and
25:45break into international research
25:46facilities when she doesn't fill out the
25:48visitor form
25:50okay i'm gonna take a break from my
25:51diary and as someone who now has to deal
25:54with those visitor forms
25:56i hate who i was
25:59she gets me in through the side entrance
26:01on a sunday since security apparently
26:03takes sunday off she asks if i want to
26:05see the off-limits underground tunnels
26:08the off-limits underground tunnels of
26:09the large hadron collider that
26:11represents the forefront of particle
26:12physics research
26:14wedding bells
26:17so we find an unlocked door into the
26:19maintenance tunnels and explore
26:21around us is the history of particle
26:24physicists engineers and interns past as
26:28well as an array of empty beer bottles
26:30and physics-related graffiti i feel like
26:32i could get lost in all of this science
26:34and
26:36we are very lost
26:39stairs we find an exit unfortunately
26:42after climbing out of the tunnels my
26:44bestie realizes where we are
26:47the main entrance the one with the
26:49guards
26:50even on sunday
26:52we get calm
26:54prep our story and
26:58pull
27:01locked
27:02tunnel entrance
27:05locked behind us
27:07who locks a building from the inside
27:09we are trapped inside the main building
27:12of an international research facility
27:14that we illegally broke into
27:20so my future wife is hyperventilating
27:22and i know i'm supposed to be supportive
27:25and all but i can't stand i'm laughing
27:27so hard because now
27:29we have to get the guard's attention and
27:31explain why and how we got trapped
27:34inside this secure facility
27:37which frankly is more embarrassing for
27:40them than for us
27:42my future wife's worried she'll lose her
27:44job and be sent home
27:45really
27:46they'll probably throw both of us in
27:48prison
27:49that's what he said to me in retrospect
27:52was not the supportive wifey thing to
27:55say
27:58so i start banging on the front door and
28:00calling out hello
28:03anyone
28:04maybe they'll deport me that's a good
28:06backup plan in case i miss my train back
28:08to munich
28:14five minutes wow these are some
28:16incompetent guards
28:18they still haven't noticed us
28:21our terrorist asses could have wreaked
28:24all kinds of havoc if we were so
28:26inclined
28:27in the visitor center hey hey wanna
28:30reset all the computers to play the
28:32northwestern fight song when people log
28:34in
28:36we need to get out of here right right
28:38okay
28:40half an hour until my train
28:42can't you just call someone
28:45my brilliant bestie finally realizes she
28:49can group message all 600 summer interns
28:52they have a group chat
28:54way to perform under pressure
28:56i'm gonna miss my train
28:58i was panicking
29:00within minutes of this message there is
29:03someone on his way to let us back into
29:06the tunnels
29:09he arrives our night in shining michigan
29:12t-shirt
29:13and my totally straight bestie
29:16offers to buy him his choice of
29:18alcoholic beverage for rescuing her
29:21he's more in a dinner mood
29:24he's tall cute saving us her age and one
29:28of the smartest physicists in the world
29:32it's wifey's time to shine
29:34holding hands kissing in the rain
29:36offering him ten pranks and telling him
29:38to buy whatever he wants and keep the
29:41change
29:43he had a girlfriend and i didn't have
29:45time on another continent i did not have
29:48time for dinner and he had a girlfriend
29:52on another continent i'm not a
29:54homewrecker
29:56we just got broken out of being tried as
29:59international spies and or terrorists
30:01and she can't even get a date out of it
30:05so much for competition i'm gonna marry
30:07my best friend
30:10that by the way was completely like
30:13edited and performed to my acting class
30:15and no one else
30:18months before we started dating
30:23joe h commented fermi was here yeah it's
30:25it's pretty much that level like there
30:28are there were a lot of acronyms
30:30a lot of like
30:32loss we never made well i made it but
30:35you never actually got to make it to the
30:36summer student shrine
30:38we got lost yes the stuff well the
30:40summer student try and you had to go
30:42aways uh
30:44you had to you know cross well into
30:45france before you got there
30:47uh and go down a few floors yeah okay
30:50but there was a
30:54bunch of yeah physics equations graffiti
30:57down the walls in the shrine so than
31:00everywhere else nerds and
31:02it had since been drunk by the time i
31:04got there but
31:06um a little
31:07buried box
31:09that had a bottle of champagne that was
31:12only to be opened once the higgs was
31:14discovered by the time i got there the
31:16things had been discovered the bottle
31:18was empty
31:25eris commented and i'm the chaotic
31:27criminal sure jan
31:29yeah this
31:31we definitely do some chaotic crimes
31:33yeah i i spent a lot of my undergrad on
31:37roofs of various buildings i just do a
31:39lot of chaotic crimes this was my one
31:41yeah i brought you along to some roofs
31:43yeah i didn't really like it
31:46i was more there out of a sense of
31:47obligation
31:49emily chambers i can't with y'all yep
31:52yep this is the chaotic bi energy you
31:54came for
31:56uh
31:59didn't know about the diary entry
32:02but i think i've told you that story
32:06um okay
32:09so we should probably get back to
32:10science at some point well i can
32:12transition um by mentioning that through
32:16all of this while we were in maintenance
32:17tunnels we were never in i should show
32:21you by the tunnel i mean the tunnel that
32:23actually has
32:25the accelerator that thing um so that's
32:28where the particle beam actually is
32:30those
32:31um sections that you're seeing many of
32:33them are actual superconducting magnets
32:36electromagnets
32:38uh
32:39going into that tunnel is very off
32:41limits
32:43no undergraduate is going to sneak into
32:45that tunnel
32:46uh
32:47when diplomats
32:49arrive at cern they get to see the
32:51detectors they do not get to see
32:54the tunnel the tunnel is
32:56for
32:57maintenance crews only
33:00and only when
33:01nothing is up and running so
33:04uh it seems like the reason they might
33:07make this off limits is one because it's
33:09fragile and you don't want to break it
33:10but two because it's very dangerous now
33:13why would a particle beam be dangerous
33:17nova
33:18radiation
33:20so
33:21energetic particles
33:23when you are exposed to them
33:25can blast teeny tiny holes in your body
33:29that's not good
33:30that leads to
33:32acute radiation sickness which is very
33:34ugly it leads to cancer all sorts of
33:37things you do not want to be exposed to
33:38this fortunately
33:40once you shut down an accelerator it
33:44takes very little time for the radiation
33:46to clear and pretty soon after people
33:50can actually go into the tunnels and
33:52it's totally safe people do wear
33:54dissimitors to keep track of their
33:56exposure just in case something goes
33:58wrong but it is a very safe environment
34:02however
34:03while the particle beam is on you do not
34:05want to be near it you do not want to be
34:07in those tunnels certainly at a facility
34:09like this you do not want to be around
34:10the detectors and that is why the
34:12closest that i ever got to get
34:15to
34:16the cms detector which is one of these
34:18big detectors that we showed you at cern
34:22was the opposite side of a six foot
34:23thick cement wall because when i was at
34:26cern the lhc was actually running so
34:30remember that
34:32nova is just talking about the radiation
34:34you can get from being
34:36near the particle beam now
34:39pre on our previous live stream when we
34:41talked about the demon core
34:43nova mentioned that radiation is like
34:46tiny bullets well a particle beam
34:49is a whole bunch
34:51of those tiny bullets going very
34:53very
34:55fast
34:57so
35:00that brings us
35:03to our main story
35:15it's the 1970s the soviet union and the
35:18united states have a
35:20tense relationship one might even say
35:23cold
35:25uh science is super secretive since
35:28scientific research isn't shared a ton
35:31of scientific breakthroughs are actually
35:33happening in parallel like one paper
35:36gets cited from the west and another
35:38from the east for the exact same finding
35:41for a lot of these things like
35:44scientists were not collaborating they
35:46were hiding their work from
35:48like the other side publishing in
35:50separate journals
35:52it was like
35:54it
35:56with basically humanity discovered a
35:58bunch of things twice because of this
36:02however
36:03like that was the downside for science
36:05now the upside physics is funded all
36:09day
36:11both sides in the cold war uh the soviet
36:14union and the west want an edge the us
36:18and soviet governments are pumping an
36:20incredible
36:22amount of money into new research
36:25yes we should say goodbye to eris by the
36:27way oh bye bye eris thank you
36:30so much for coming it was good
36:33uh to see you thank you i'll see you
36:36again probably tomorrow
36:37we work together
36:39um
36:40so back to the cold war yes
36:43we are all living in fear of nuclear
36:45annihilation
36:47but
36:48it's a great time for grant money and
36:50all as we all know the four fundamental
36:53forces are dwarfed
36:55by the one true force of academia which
36:58is grant approvals
37:01it's true
37:03so there were very
37:05very few downsides to the cold war
37:08ending like the cold war ending
37:10overall good thing
37:13but one of the downsides was that
37:16funding dried up for a lot of these uh
37:19cool experiments and loads of ambitious
37:22science projects were cancelled or put
37:25on hold and uh side note
37:27uh i've just got to say this like as an
37:30american science person
37:33uh one of those projects that was put on
37:35hold
37:36was a super collider
37:39far bigger than the lhc or cern and it
37:43was going to be in texas it was called
37:46the super conducting super collider
37:49and
37:50it was it okay it was over budget it did
37:55initially have a budget of 2 billion
37:57that then ballooned to 11 billion and
38:00other countries were going to come help
38:02fund it but then after the cold war
38:04ended and the budget ballooned they were
38:07like
38:08nah maybe don't want to put a ton of
38:10money into this like really ambitious
38:12basic science experiment
38:14um
38:15so that was messy they broke ground and
38:17everything yeah no they were 20
38:20done with construction this uh photo in
38:22the background is actually of
38:26construction on the super conducting
38:28super collider
38:29like this the tunnels are still there
38:32like
38:34construction equipment was brought in
38:35they spent two billion dollars on this
38:38before like and they flew in a bunch of
38:40scientists like dozens of top of their
38:43game top field scientists moved to
38:47like
38:49this uh
38:51waxahachie
38:53texas
38:54that might be how it's pronounced who
38:56knows i would know it if funding hadn't
38:58dried up because there'd be a super
39:00collider there bigger than cern
39:02um and all of those
39:04and all of those physicists moved down
39:06there many did move away once the
39:08project was canceled years later now i'm
39:10not actually sure that they would have
39:12gotten energies much higher than what
39:15they got at cern because while it was
39:16bigger
39:17magnet technology did improve between
39:20the design of the superconducting super
39:22collider you can always replace magnets
39:25yeah but it can be tricky
39:27they're expensive
39:29okay the head physicist was of this
39:32project the superconducting super
39:33collider was talking all kinds of shade
39:36in a couple of the articles i read uh
39:38specifically one for dallas news
39:41where he was all like we would have
39:43discovered the higgs boson first
39:46but con
39:47but congress cut our funding
39:50he's messy he's so messy but he's trying
39:52to the nobel goes to the theorists
39:54anyways so hey
39:57she's a theorist there's just a little
39:59in humor for the theorists here
40:02so
40:03uh possibly oh and i have to admit um i
40:07always admit when i am wrong
40:10uh
40:11and
40:12i have said that there was nothing good
40:15about president reagan i have said that
40:17before
40:18and unfortunately while researching for
40:19this video i did find one good thing
40:22about ronald reagan
40:25uh and that was that he
40:28was just guns hoe balls gung-ho balls to
40:32the wall for funding this project no
40:34matter how much money the scientists
40:36spent
40:37um and when clinton was elected he
40:40showed very little interest and as other
40:43countries were also less motivated there
40:44was no longer this like big exciting
40:47push uh that the scientists had under
40:49reagan and congress voted to end the
40:52project
40:53after already spending 2 billion of the
40:56initial 4 billion
40:58um
40:59anyway we should fund science like we
41:01did in the cold war i don't want to go
41:03back to war
41:04like i really don't like i'm actually
41:06very very terrified right now as we kind
41:10of all are
41:11um
41:12like the situation is really
41:14really bad
41:16um
41:17but i wrote the outline for this before
41:19that situation arose and i just want
41:21more funding for science please thank
41:23you really we just need to fund things
41:25on longer time horizons yeah the the
41:28issue is that
41:31turnover
41:32within the organizations that fund so
41:36congress is
41:37at best every six years yeah so what
41:41that means
41:42is a lot of these projects which take
41:45decades to kind of conceptualize and
41:48build
41:49are very hard to fund and to keep being
41:51funded what will happen is money gets
41:54allocated and then budgets get cut or
41:57money that was allocated is not
42:00allocated through a long enough term and
42:02then it can get removed you end up with
42:04these half-finished projects
42:06like assuming conducting superflare um
42:09and it just means that we need a longer
42:11time horizon the europe actually does
42:12this a lot yeah beach eight
42:15asked a question for nova
42:18can the strength of the magnetic field
42:21while the lhc is running mess with you
42:25so
42:26when you say if you were standing right
42:28next to it
42:29yes
42:30but you would have bigger problems
42:32specifically
42:34the bigger problem that is the radiation
42:36um
42:37it's probably not going to mess with you
42:41if you are at you know minimum safe
42:43distance um while this thing is running
42:46uh it's not like you have to you know
42:48take off all metal to be on the opposite
42:50side of the six foot
42:52thick wall um it's not like getting you
42:54know going into the same room as an mri
42:56if you were in there absolutely that's
42:58those are very very strong magnets
43:01um the a fun thing that can happen with
43:03these magnets um and i love talking
43:06about quenching um there's this thing
43:08that can happen called a quench and so
43:10this is the quenchiest it's the
43:12quenchiest this is not an issue for mris
43:16or anything like that mris don't rely on
43:19superconductors to get the magnetic
43:20field strength that they need let's go
43:22back to cern
43:24yeah we're talking about cern yeah um
43:26this is true for fermilab too though um
43:29so anytime you have super conducting
43:31magnets though this is a concern
43:33um and basically what this is is
43:37well how does a superconductor work it's
43:39a material
43:41that has zero resistance to electrical
43:44current so that means that
43:47current can just go around and around
43:49and
43:50no energy gets dissipated as heat
43:53which is really cool
43:55however
43:56the issue with superconducting is that
44:00materials do not superconduct at room
44:02temperature
44:03they tend to superconduct at very very
44:05cold temperatures like very close to
44:07absolute zero
44:09and so
44:10fun fact cern is actually one of the
44:14biggest users of helium in the world
44:17and that is because
44:19they use liquid helium to cool their
44:22magnets
44:24that's great so you use liquid helium
44:27which is even colder than liquid
44:28nitrogen
44:29get these things really cold and then
44:32you can put
44:33massive amounts of electrical current
44:36through these magnets that creates
44:38really strong magnetic fields
44:39accelerates your particles nice and nice
44:41and good
44:42uh so what happens when it goes wrong
44:44what can go wrong is say something goes
44:47wrong with your cooling
44:48say you know you have a leak of in one
44:51of your cooling tubes somehow your
44:53temperature is starting to rise
44:56this happens sometimes things go wrong
44:59well if that happens
45:01now
45:03suddenly
45:04you get to this threshold temperature
45:06where your superconducting magnet is no
45:09longer superconducting it's just regular
45:11old conducting
45:13and regular old conducting means that
45:15that current that used to be able to go
45:17through without dissipating any energy
45:19as heat well now it is dissipating
45:22energy as heat and there is a lot of
45:24energy to be dissipated as heat and so
45:27that means that suddenly your very very
45:29cold magnet gets very very hot
45:34very very quickly
45:35liquid helium tanks can explode
45:38uh you can have all sorts of crazy
45:41problems because basically all of your
45:42cooling stuff immediately gets heated up
45:44boils and kapoor
45:47and so in order to
45:50deal with quenches
45:52uh modern colliders all have some sort
45:55of system where they basically can take
45:57that current and in case of an emergency
46:00take all that current and offload it as
46:03quickly as possible so if you go and you
46:05visit
46:06um for example the lhc you will see that
46:09they have these
46:11giants so i'm talking
46:13uh you know yay big around
46:17and then maybe 50 of them all put
46:20together copper
46:22pipe things they're rectangular which is
46:24why i made this shape
46:26now the thicker your your wire is the
46:30more current it can take so like a
46:32heavier gauge of wire can handle more
46:34current
46:35that's why like the plug on your
46:37air conditioner is usually has a thicker
46:39cord than the the plug on your iphone
46:43yeah or just small electrical appliances
46:45so
46:46you have now you know this is your wire
46:48size and you have about 50 of them
46:52all designed to carry that current out
46:56and dump it
46:57outside the building
46:59and so it gets dumped outside the
47:00building and apparently if a quench
47:02happens and you are standing
47:04in this uh region which is probably
47:07about the size of a living room outside
47:10where they dump all that heat you can
47:13feel the ambient temperature rise by a
47:15few degrees immediately
47:17it gets that hot
47:19so that's what happens in a quench
47:21the other thing is again you can
47:22sometimes if you aren't able to get all
47:24the current out fast enough get these uh
47:26steam explosions uh which is not good to
47:29have near your detectors yes usually
47:32it's not going to blow out your detector
47:33usually it happens somewhere along the
47:35ring
47:36uh it's still not good
47:38um
47:40but what it does is it will destroy the
47:43magnet typically that was at fault but
47:46you're usually able to isolate it to
47:49that one system because of
47:52this
47:53um
47:55capability to get rid of that extra
47:56currency you end up with like an
47:58explosion that destroys one very
48:00expensive magnet as opposed to
48:02triggering this cascade effect that
48:05destroys destroys the whole thing yeah
48:08um so this happens this has happened at
48:10fermilab apparently i talked to people
48:13um who worked there back when it was
48:15running and once in a while a quench
48:17would happen and you could hear it all
48:19across the lab this big boom and when i
48:21say all across the lab i mean
48:24all across
48:26this uh nine square mile prairie land
48:29which is what fermilab is
48:31they haven't heard of bison
48:32they do formula is a weird place it's
48:34very cool i highly recommend a visit if
48:37you are in the area yeah totally worth
48:38it okay and it's open to the public
48:40shall we get back to science yeah or to
48:42the story yes um the only thing i was
48:45gonna say about the other famous quench
48:47was the one that happened at cern
48:49uh
48:50not too many years ago
48:52it was the frenchest thing to ever
48:54french uh the they had a quench
48:57it knocked out the lhc for some time
48:59because they destroyed a magnet
49:01i think they might have even destroyed a
49:03few magnets the thing that caused it
49:05was they lost power to part of their
49:07cooling system because a bird dropped a
49:10baguette on a power line
49:13there are stories about this in
49:14reputable newspapers
49:16that's the frenchish thing to ever
49:18friends yeah yeah
49:19anyway that's it that's crunches
49:22okay
49:24so
49:27let's talk about
49:33sorry okay let's talk about uh
49:36our
49:37main character
49:39anatoly petrovich berkowski
49:42so
49:43we're back in the middle of the cold war
49:45it's 1978 in the soviet union meet
49:49anatoly petrovich burkowski uh he's the
49:53guy leaning over that's not really him i
49:56couldn't find any pictures of this young
49:59man
49:59so uh just
50:01but that's like it's that is where he
50:04worked and that's what he was doing
50:06uh
50:08so he was born in 1942
50:11at the time he is a 36 year old
50:14researcher working on his phd at the
50:17institute for high energy physics in
50:19protovino russia
50:22our friend anatoly has a really exciting
50:25job he's working for the u70
50:29synchrotron the largest particle
50:31accelerator in the soviet union um so it
50:35was the competitor to fermilab
50:38um
50:39and
50:40did pretty well it was named the u70
50:44because its final energy was 70
50:49uh giga electron volts which is 10
50:51billion electron volts it's just a lot a
50:54lot of energy at the time it was the
50:57world revolution electron yes sorry
51:0070 billion electron volts right
51:0470 gigabytes
51:06uh
51:06electron volts that's smaller than a
51:08okay anyway
51:1070 billion electron volts
51:14you don't need to know what that's a
51:15single particle it's measure of energy
51:17you just need to know that that was the
51:19world record in beam energy
51:22when it was built it's small potatoes
51:24now based on like cern but at the time
51:28it was huge but i can i can interrupt to
51:30give you a slight sense of scale so that
51:32was 70 giga electron volts was the
51:34energy in that collision
51:36um now
51:38the tevatron which was
51:40uh fermilabs
51:42well it was able to accelerate particles
51:44up to a tev
51:46hence the name tevatron
51:49that is a terra electron volt so that is
51:51a trillion electron volts as opposed to
51:5370 billion
51:57bigger is better
52:01you're just coming in with the fermi lab
52:03and cern pride here yeah yeah yeah well
52:06cern is 14 ted freaking 14 trillion
52:09electron volts yeah
52:14west
52:16um and so like anyway at the time
52:20the u-70 synchrotron was the biggest and
52:23best
52:24um in the world um and it was a big big
52:29deal in the soviet union actually in
52:311970 uh the u-70 scientists team was
52:35awarded the lenin prize which was one of
52:38the most prestigious awards of the
52:39soviet union for accomplishments in
52:41science literature arts architecture
52:43technology think like the soviet nobel
52:47um they won this for the development and
52:50commissioning of the centro tron
52:52and the u-70 is still the highest energy
52:57accelerator in
52:58russia uh
53:00we have fermilab
53:02just saying
53:03uh
53:04now the temp trend doesn't operate
53:06anymore because
53:08the lhc is bigger yeah we have cern yeah
53:11china we're not really in we're not part
53:14of concern so
53:16yeah so unfortunately for
53:19bogorski our main character uh our
53:22friend
53:23he is the main character in one of these
53:25live streams so things really can't end
53:28well for him
53:29there's kind of a rule
53:31uh on the 13th of july 1978
53:35uh burgorski was checking a
53:38malfunctioning piece of equipment and
53:41he's leaning over the equipment when the
53:44safety mechanisms failed
53:48and suddenly
53:50the particle beam is turned on
53:53he has been leaning into the particle
53:55beam to fix stuff
53:57all of a sudden that turns on remember
54:00all of those like tiny bullets going
54:02really really really fast like
54:05record-breaking really fast
54:10go right through his face
54:16yeah he just stuck his head in the path
54:18of a 70
54:20giga electron volt proton beam
54:24reportedly
54:25he saw a flash brighter than a thousand
54:29suns
54:30but did not immediately feel any pain
54:34now this is consistent with our
54:36knowledge of radiation poisoning uh
54:39generally when you are irradiated you
54:42don't know it's happened
54:44um it's not until later that the effects
54:47are felt
54:48um because it doesn't like hit your
54:50nerves it just destroys your cells
54:54um
54:56so
54:57what does this guy do
55:00he's a physicist he's working on his phd
55:03he is rebecca levels
55:05or he is nova levels
55:07god i'm worse than you uh he
55:12so what does
55:13this nova level scientist
55:16uh do he completely understands the
55:19severity of what's just happened
55:22and when faced with the knowledge that
55:24he's probably about to die very very
55:27painfully over the next few days
55:30what does he do
55:33he continues working on the
55:34malfunctioning equipment and just
55:37doesn't tell anyone what happened
55:40because if you don't acknowledge the
55:42problem it goes away right exactly you
55:45said to check out the chat what's
55:46happening in the chat uh just a few
55:48comments i can't really read it from
55:50here i know you and you didn't want me
55:51on my phone so
55:54not a good
55:55vince asked how late
55:57uh is he uh you're about an hour late
56:00but we're just getting to the good bit
56:03there goes my joke is largest in soviet
56:06union powered by three hugos
56:09he forgot to lock out tag out
56:12yeah
56:13yeah this is this is very
56:15very very oof
56:19uh
56:20so
56:22unfortunately
56:24a particle beam through the face
56:27doesn't work like cartoon gravity
56:30and
56:32remember when
56:35i talked about how
56:39uh one gray like when we unless live
56:42stream one gray of radiation that's just
56:44a unit of radiation it's a thousand rads
56:47um is
56:49likely death
56:50um i'm actually gonna look it up because
56:52i forgot to write it down
56:54but
56:56uh this guy got
56:58quite a bit more
57:02than one gray
57:04let me just
57:05very quickly
57:06[Music]
57:09yeah
57:10okay
57:12so
57:13he received a dose
57:16of
57:17200 to
57:19200
57:20to 300
57:23gray
57:25uh a gray's about a thousand road
57:27kittens that's is that correct about
57:29okay they're this is all estimated
57:31because they didn't measure it yeah but
57:35so he's also weird radiation because
57:38it's protons which is not what you
57:40normally get radiated with yeah like
57:43but they are bigger and heavier and like
57:46but easier to stop yeah it's a mix a
57:48mixed bag
57:49it's weird it's a bad bag it's a very
57:52bad mixed bag
57:56so
57:57let's give a little diagram just so you
57:59all know what's happening so he sticks
58:01his head in and it basically passes
58:04through the left side of his face like
58:06right up through there can you yeah you
58:10all have
58:11a diagram here i will move
58:15i will move myself
58:18so you can your breath stinks it's very
58:21stinky i will move myself so you can see
58:25come on
58:29nope
58:30also welcome back paige
58:32oh paige is back
58:34hi well i can't move this
58:38display within a display because i'm
58:40still learning how to use streamlabs but
58:42basically
58:43up through the left side of his face
58:46uh
58:48two to three hundred d you're deads of
58:51radiation
58:52uh which is more than anyone ever had
58:56received and anyone has since received
58:58the guy who died like who extra bonus
59:02died got
59:03in the last video got six gray
59:08so like
59:12officially
59:14five grays is like
59:17definitely deadly
59:19but
59:20a single gray is like probably dead
59:24so
59:27unfortunately uh after he just ignores
59:30it for a few hours um
59:33the left half of his face
59:35swells up beyond recognition
59:40and
59:41everybody noticed
59:44it was hard to hide it at that point
59:47um so people figured out like people
59:49found out what happened
59:51uh his skin started to peel revealing
59:54the path that the proton beam had burned
59:58through parts of his face through his
1:00:00bone and
1:00:01brain tissue underneath
1:00:03um yeah he could not hide this from his
1:00:05colleagues i'll i'll stop with the
1:00:07description i'm sorry i'm not sorry you
1:00:10all came here for gross science gruesome
1:00:13i said this was science history mixed
1:00:15with true crime i'm trying to be like a
1:00:17true crime podcast
1:00:19just k ridiculously chipper which is not
1:00:22not appropriate for this story
1:00:26so
1:00:27everyone believes that burkowski was
1:00:30extra bonus dead
1:00:32um he's taken to a clinic in moscow
1:00:35where the doctors could observe his
1:00:37expected demise they don't even pretend
1:00:40that they're gonna try to care for him
1:00:42they're just like we want to watch
1:00:44because like
1:00:45this is insane
1:00:47we like
1:00:48let's see what happens like why waste
1:00:50the science you know
1:00:53uh but
1:00:54then there's another wild
1:00:58twist
1:01:01burkowski
1:01:03survives
1:01:06here hold on
1:01:10uh this is him
1:01:12oh uh this is him a bit later this is
1:01:15like a more modern image
1:01:17uh decades later decades later
1:01:20not only did this guy live he completed
1:01:23his phd and continued working as a
1:01:27particle physicist
1:01:28there was virtually no damage to his
1:01:31intellectual abilities although mental
1:01:34work was much more tiring than before as
1:01:37he reported
1:01:38uh
1:01:39burgoys
1:01:41bogorski also lost hearing in his left
1:01:44ear
1:01:45and uh
1:01:47got tinnitus uh that's uh ringing in
1:01:50that year and the entire left half of
1:01:54his face was paralyzed
1:01:56um so if you're looking at the picture
1:02:00the side of his face you can mostly see
1:02:02is the right half the left half
1:02:05looks like it's a lot younger like it
1:02:07hasn't aged there are no wrinkles that's
1:02:10because as a young man
1:02:13his left hat the left half of his face
1:02:15what i'm showing the right the left half
1:02:16of his face was paralyzed
1:02:19so
1:02:21like the normal movement of your face
1:02:24that leads to wrinkles just didn't
1:02:26happen for half his face
1:02:28um
1:02:29so only half of his face aged
1:02:33um
1:02:36and
1:02:37so
1:02:38uh it's
1:02:40not actually
1:02:42a like it's not all bad in this in this
1:02:44story everybody lives uh burgorski
1:02:47continued to work as a physicist at the
1:02:50institute for high energy physics and
1:02:53actually achieved the post of
1:02:54coordinator of physics experiments so
1:02:57like this guy did really well as a
1:03:00scientist
1:03:01um in russia
1:03:03uh now
1:03:04because of the soviet union's policy of
1:03:07maintaining secrecy
1:03:09on
1:03:11nuclear power related issues burgorski
1:03:14wasn't actually allowed to speak
1:03:16publicly about the accident for over a
1:03:19decade
1:03:21he continued going to the moscow
1:03:23radiation clinic twice a year for
1:03:25examinations and to meet with and
1:03:27support other nuclear accident victims
1:03:30um and
1:03:32in the soviet union he was described as
1:03:35a poster boy for soviet and russian
1:03:38radiation medicine
1:03:40so like the people who knew
1:03:42thought he thought this was the coolest
1:03:44thing ever but the general public and
1:03:46the
1:03:47like scientific community of the world
1:03:49outside of the soviet union did not know
1:03:52there's been some action in the chat
1:03:53okay i will
1:03:54check
1:03:55the chat
1:03:56hold on
1:03:59uh from the same people that brought you
1:04:00chernobyl yes
1:04:02lots of secrets in the oh yep
1:04:07robert uh patron robert williams is just
1:04:10listing uh various grievances we have
1:04:13with cold war
1:04:15soviet union yay paige is back hello
1:04:18paige
1:04:19uh lisa
1:04:22oh no vince the track alignments chart
1:04:25is coming in about 5-10 minutes
1:04:28oh it's not a captain's alignment chart
1:04:30it is a show's alignment chart
1:04:35joe has an accurate reaction
1:04:38you don't
1:04:40it's just the face you don't need the
1:04:42face that's amazing
1:04:46yep joe that was pretty much the
1:04:47conversation why is your face uh blowing
1:04:50up and peeling from the inside out well
1:04:54boss
1:04:55i f'ed up
1:04:57yeah joe he lived
1:05:01ooh
1:05:02paige i'm
1:05:04i'm very happy uh that
1:05:07uh your mom's friend or acquaintance
1:05:10survived i'm really really sorry
1:05:13about the self-inflicted gun to the head
1:05:15that's
1:05:16really sad and i hope this person got
1:05:18the help they need like both physical
1:05:20and mental help uh phd candidate zombie
1:05:26huh
1:05:27yep
1:05:29uh
1:05:31tinnitus is
1:05:33the worst i am
1:05:35very sorry to everyone who has to
1:05:37experience that
1:05:39um
1:05:40so update
1:05:42on bregorski
1:05:44uh he's still alive today actually and
1:05:47according uh and apparently except for
1:05:49occasional seizures he's apparently
1:05:52functioning well he's a retired particle
1:05:55physicist he's married to
1:05:58vera nicolovina
1:06:00uh no vera
1:06:03nikolavna
1:06:05and they have a son peter
1:06:07uh in 1996
1:06:09uh he applied unsuccessfully for
1:06:11disability status to receive free
1:06:14epilepsy medication
1:06:16um so
1:06:17this is kind of transition to a slightly
1:06:19more sad topic
1:06:21um he was
1:06:23top of his field physicist like the
1:06:25director of physics experiments at the
1:06:29u70 synchrotron the most um
1:06:33the high highest energy synchrotron in
1:06:36all of russia
1:06:38and he wasn't even granted disability
1:06:41benefits to get his epilepsy medication
1:06:46covered uh he also
1:06:48showed interest in making himself
1:06:50available for
1:06:52studies to western researchers
1:06:54but could not afford to leave
1:06:57protvino
1:06:59so
1:07:00he can't he's
1:07:03he's this like really famous scientist
1:07:06who served his country really well
1:07:08but he can't afford to leave his
1:07:10hometown
1:07:11or epilepsy meds basically and that's
1:07:15uh nova and i were actually talking
1:07:17about this because uh it reminded me of
1:07:21both how lucky we are to live in a
1:07:24country where academic the academic
1:07:26elite is treated very well
1:07:29but
1:07:31i can't pretend that america treats
1:07:33veterans as well no
1:07:35like
1:07:36i definitely a mixed bag yeah we can
1:07:39critique
1:07:40like the soviet russian
1:07:42health care system or i guess we can
1:07:44critique the current russian health care
1:07:46system
1:07:47um for failing this guy
1:07:51but we also have to like reflect on our
1:07:54own country
1:07:56that
1:07:57like
1:07:58we have a separate stat for homelessness
1:08:00among veterans because our homeless
1:08:03population is so
1:08:05disproportionately
1:08:07veterans
1:08:08which is kind of shameful anyway anyway
1:08:11um
1:08:12i guess it's good that the academic
1:08:14elite are well cared for health
1:08:16insurance wise at least for us yeah
1:08:18especially in stem yeah
1:08:20uh yes in in stem definitely so
1:08:24uh
1:08:26i guess
1:08:29now you might be asking uh because last
1:08:32time on the live stream we talked about
1:08:34how
1:08:35um news every time there was a demon car
1:08:38accident new safety measures were put in
1:08:42place they weren't always followed but
1:08:43they were put in place
1:08:46so
1:08:47what new safety measures were employed
1:08:49to ensure that this uh terrible thing
1:08:53never happened again
1:08:57i'm not sure there were any officially
1:09:00like i couldn't find any uh remember due
1:09:03to the prioritization of secrecy in the
1:09:06ussr
1:09:08no one was told
1:09:11about the accident like it remained
1:09:13unofficial for
1:09:15over a decade
1:09:17um so i hope this
1:09:20hasn't already happened again
1:09:23like it's quite possible that this kind
1:09:25of thing happened more than once
1:09:28and only one person lived like
1:09:31we don't actually know that much like i
1:09:35looking around i couldn't tell that it
1:09:37happened again but yeah probably not
1:09:39yeah lately it's not in the same way
1:09:41wild speculation but
1:09:45i don't know
1:09:46so what can we learn
1:09:49from this story
1:09:52don't stick your head
1:09:53inside a particle beam
1:09:56even if it's off uh it's basically the
1:09:58same rule as
1:10:00uh don't stick your face in front of a
1:10:02loaded gun
1:10:03or any gun
1:10:05fortunately
1:10:06uh most modern accelerators the place
1:10:10where the beam is is also evacuated so
1:10:12it's vacuum and so it's you can't just
1:10:14stick your head through that it's not
1:10:16open it's a continuous tube that they
1:10:19evacuate
1:10:20so
1:10:22that's not harder to do yeah and that
1:10:24by the way
1:10:26startup scenes associated with modern
1:10:28particle accelerators yeah that is for
1:10:30science
1:10:32not yeah that's never safety that's just
1:10:33because yeah none of these decisions
1:10:35were made for safety it's just particles
1:10:38in a vacuum
1:10:39are
1:10:40easier to work with having a startup
1:10:42sequence uh is one of the ways like one
1:10:45of the necessary components of getting
1:10:47up to higher energy is that kind of
1:10:48thing
1:10:49okay
1:10:51i'm gonna check the chat and now
1:10:58oh my god there's so much
1:11:05wow
1:11:08okay
1:11:10paige apparently this guy
1:11:12uh had way bigger problems okay than his
1:11:15own mental health uh superconductors how
1:11:18how do you make different wavelengths of
1:11:20light come from those fast electrons
1:11:23uh
1:11:24something called the wiggled at
1:11:27jabs
1:11:30i
1:11:30[Music]
1:11:33don't know
1:11:34um
1:11:36so
1:11:37these detectors
1:11:39aren't always detecting photons they
1:11:42also can detect particles
1:11:45um
1:11:46yeah i guess i i'm not quite sure what
1:11:48the question is um i think it's how do
1:11:51we see the
1:11:52collisions how do the detectors work
1:11:54yeah so the detectors usually don't
1:11:56detect photons once in a while
1:11:59um they do but usually what the
1:12:01detectors do
1:12:03is they take the particles that come out
1:12:06and they stop them in some way and so
1:12:09sometimes there is there are photons
1:12:11eventually but the photons aren't coming
1:12:12directly out of the collision
1:12:14or at least say you want to detect
1:12:17um
1:12:18a certain type of particle that particle
1:12:20like an electron might go flying out
1:12:24um
1:12:25through
1:12:26some other
1:12:27detector material
1:12:29and sometimes it produces light as it
1:12:32passes through
1:12:33sometimes and sometimes that's through
1:12:35things like you can have a cherenkov
1:12:36detector this is an example um so how
1:12:39that works
1:12:40um is you have
1:12:44a big section full of
1:12:47uh some material often um i don't know
1:12:50if they use it in colliders but
1:12:52cherenkov detectors for
1:12:55um
1:12:56cosmic rays uh we'll use like water
1:12:58tanks but like ultra pure water
1:13:01and it turns out um that when you have
1:13:05these really energetic particles
1:13:07and probably going off on too much of a
1:13:09tangent but too bad um
1:13:12we did
1:13:13vince did come and start you although uh
1:13:16someone uh vince also recommended that
1:13:19we should put up a poster of an
1:13:21inspirational kitten with the slogan
1:13:24please do not put head in particle
1:13:26accelerator
1:13:28which i think is like a good that's
1:13:30that's probably that's good safety
1:13:31advice yeah right up there with your
1:13:32wearing your safety goggles yes um
1:13:35karen didn't wear her safety goggles
1:13:38no she doesn't need them
1:13:40but no so that one way that you can
1:13:42detect uh certain types of particles is
1:13:45um you have this material and
1:13:48when a really really energetic particle
1:13:50flies through it
1:13:52it actually is moving faster than the
1:13:55speed of light in that medium now you've
1:13:58probably heard before that nothing
1:13:59travels faster than the speed of light
1:14:01that's true for the speed of light in a
1:14:03vacuum
1:14:04but
1:14:05in air and water and other media the
1:14:08speed of light or specifically light
1:14:10itself slows down
1:14:12and it slows down enough that is
1:14:14actually possible for an energetic
1:14:16particle to move faster
1:14:18and so when that energetic particle is
1:14:20moving faster than light can in that
1:14:22same medium it produces like the the
1:14:25light version of a sonic boom it's just
1:14:27like when you move faster than the speed
1:14:28of sound you make a boom
1:14:30in this case when you move faster than
1:14:32the speed of light you produce a flash
1:14:34and so that's one way to detect and
1:14:36depending on how that flash is shaped it
1:14:37tells you things about the particle or
1:14:39how that flash looks
1:14:40um other detection
1:14:43techniques involve basically something
1:14:46that stops the particle and when the
1:14:48particle gets stopped its energy gets
1:14:51converted into heat light something else
1:14:54which you then detect there are a bunch
1:14:55of different ways
1:14:57to mess with particles and in further
1:15:00presence it is not an exact
1:15:03like
1:15:04it is an exact same it's an exact
1:15:06science but it is not
1:15:08a you use a lot of different techniques
1:15:11to detect different particles that are
1:15:12go that have different masses different
1:15:14energies and that's why these detectors
1:15:16are so big is they basically have layers
1:15:18yeah it's an exact so like the inner
1:15:20layer is actually i think it's not a
1:15:23one of these
1:15:24detectors in
1:15:25accelerators i'm so used to cosmic rays
1:15:27they use scintillators
1:15:29um which is something different it's
1:15:30like plastic okay and lights produced
1:15:33lots of ways to make particles produced
1:15:35okay
1:15:36so is the short version uh
1:15:38german coupling is cool though that is
1:15:41that's why
1:15:42reactive fluid is blue and like glows
1:15:45anyway
1:15:46okay uh
1:15:47david
1:15:52apparently in world war ii the us navy
1:15:54put air conditioners on all their ships
1:15:56not for the crew but because the
1:15:58electronics shouldn't have condensation
1:16:00yep
1:16:02we don't prioritize people but in fact
1:16:05at cern most of the buildings don't have
1:16:06ac either unless
1:16:09you work in the computing building
1:16:13uh
1:16:14ah okay commander 401 is using speech to
1:16:18text
1:16:19ah that's why yeah okay
1:16:22uh
1:16:24we
1:16:25joe wearing a tin foil hat will not help
1:16:27you
1:16:28uh please
1:16:30it won't work they'll still they'll
1:16:32still get your brain waves so
1:16:35now that we are done with today's
1:16:36planned rant
1:16:38uh let's go off script and talk about
1:16:42star trek lower decks star trek picard
1:16:45and star trek prodigy
1:16:47i'm gonna make a three-way venn diagram
1:16:51and you are all in the chat going to
1:16:53help me analyze
1:16:55just why
1:16:56lower dex is so much better than the
1:16:58other two like i don't think that's a
1:16:59controversial statement i think everyone
1:17:01agrees that lower decks is superior i
1:17:05need to figure out why and i need you
1:17:07all to help me how many people in this
1:17:10chat have seen all of these tracks
1:17:12particularly prodigy though that's the
1:17:14one thing you have to i am now
1:17:16putting
1:17:17i am now putting nova in charge of the
1:17:19chat
1:17:21oh okay but i have the dog okay
1:17:24i need to screen share
1:17:27sorry
1:17:28about that
1:17:30and we are
1:17:33gonna pull up
1:17:34okay
1:17:36so
1:17:37uh can can you see me i i don't actually
1:17:40see the stream lab so i'm just hoping
1:17:41this works
1:17:43um
1:17:45so we have so far but it's not up yet oh
1:17:48so we have picard
1:17:51we have lowered x and we have prodigy
1:17:54and i've i've started
1:17:56a little bit uh
1:17:59now the reason i'm comparing these three
1:18:02is because they are all
1:18:03in universe spin-offs of 90s trek
1:18:08uh i'm not gonna talk about disco i'm
1:18:10not gonna talk about anything that isn't
1:18:12currently coming out
1:18:13um
1:18:14no original tracks
1:18:16uh
1:18:18and they're all similar
1:18:20in many ways so for example picard and
1:18:22prodigy
1:18:24an old captain returns
1:18:26that's their gimmick
1:18:28uh in lower decks
1:18:29and picard they're the same because
1:18:31they're both in the federation while
1:18:32prodigy exists outside of the federation
1:18:35but still in the same universe and lower
1:18:37decks and prodigy are both animated
1:18:41uh
1:18:42let's see i'm gonna i know that
1:18:45prodigy has janeway it's also
1:18:51for kids
1:18:53uh it's on nickelodeon
1:18:55uh and oh man are the advertisements for
1:18:58kids shows uh lower decks is
1:19:01a satire of star trek
1:19:04um
1:19:06and it is
1:19:12it is definitely
1:19:13not for kids
1:19:16um
1:19:18no i'm breaking the venn diagram i'm
1:19:20sorry this is my first time using this
1:19:22software
1:19:24okay
1:19:25uh picard has
1:19:27uh recurring characters of picard and
1:19:30seven of nine also heads up
1:19:32i can see
1:19:34the venn diagram um it just showed up
1:19:37however
1:19:38uh
1:19:39we are covering like oh no
1:19:43okay
1:19:44here
1:19:46i can oh wait i need to fix that on
1:19:51see this is why
1:19:54i'm just gonna
1:20:01okay
1:20:04that hopefully will help
1:20:07i'll let you know in like five minutes
1:20:09there's a pretty big lag can you refresh
1:20:12the page that might fix the lag
1:20:14okay
1:20:16so
1:20:19we have picardon seven of nine
1:20:22uh riker and troy come back in both
1:20:24lower decks and picards or anne picard
1:20:28um i guess
1:20:30oh
1:20:31these two are both
1:20:33comedies
1:20:40is the chat suggesting anything it would
1:20:42be really hell yeah so so a lot of
1:20:44people haven't seen stuff um
1:20:46but you do not have to have seen all of
1:20:48these yeah
1:20:50says he only saw the
1:20:52pilot of prodigy
1:20:53um what did you think of the pilot of
1:20:56prodigy because
1:20:57oh yeah i can see
1:21:00uh says
1:21:02uh that
1:21:03he hasn't seen any trek since voyager
1:21:05but likes venn diagrams
1:21:07i like this
1:21:10uh i am glad that vince is just here for
1:21:13the venn diagrams uh vince since you are
1:21:16paying attention uh i would definitely
1:21:18recommend watching lower decks if you
1:21:21haven't seen any trucks since voyager i
1:21:24assume that means uh he has seen deep
1:21:26space nine uh if you've seen
1:21:29next gen
1:21:30voyager deep space nine and the original
1:21:32series you will find lower decks
1:21:34hilarious
1:21:36if you've only seen one of them you will
1:21:38also find lower decks hilarious but
1:21:40you'll miss some of the in-jokes if
1:21:42you've seen none of them
1:21:44you'll still probably like lower decks
1:21:47but like you you will miss a lot of the
1:21:49in-jokes but like i wouldn't say lower
1:21:52decks would be like a star trek to start
1:21:54with but it is very fun robert williams
1:21:57also says that we need an episode where
1:21:58they meet harry kim known as ensign
1:22:00greybeard
1:22:02uh
1:22:04would that be uh which one would that be
1:22:06prodigy or lower dex
1:22:09or picard
1:22:12i'm gonna we'll see what there's enough
1:22:15of a lag that we have to wait a little
1:22:16bit for i'm gonna make uh boxes in the
1:22:18chat
1:22:22i'm gonna add a beard with an e
1:22:26like gray within e not a
1:22:30like that yeah yeah i can't spell
1:22:33i mean both are technically correct a
1:22:36um ensign graybeard will be placed on
1:22:38the venn diagram as soon as the chat
1:22:40loads and i'm told which series uh
1:22:42robert williams would want it in
1:22:45so
1:22:46we watched prodigy
1:22:48uh
1:22:50we had some thoughts
1:22:52um
1:22:54i think
1:23:01it was
1:23:02okay
1:23:03characters are literal children
1:23:06um
1:23:08and
1:23:09i think in lower decks
1:23:17yeah vince you're right ds9 is the best
1:23:19track
1:23:22voyager is our favorite but we will
1:23:24admit ds9 is better
1:23:30yeah in lower decks although i actually
1:23:33like lower decks better than ds9 but
1:23:36you only like lower decks better than s9
1:23:38probably suddenly okay
1:23:40because i saw what because you saw ds9
1:23:43first and then i would have liked it
1:23:44either way oh yeah but lower decks
1:23:45parodies ds9 as well yes but it
1:23:48priorities all of them oh yeah but i'm
1:23:50i'm basically saying that
1:23:52lower decks is funnier because you've
1:23:54seen ds9 than it would be if you hadn't
1:23:56seen ds9 but i also really like the
1:23:58characters oh yeah because i like
1:24:01characters are phenomenal in
1:24:03uh ds9 and also
1:24:05the ending of ds9 which yes was just
1:24:08like the last episode but still
1:24:10left such a sour taste in my mouth that
1:24:13i cannot re-watch diaz yeah did you know
1:24:15that initially avery brooks wasn't even
1:24:17gonna come like
1:24:19uh ben cisco wasn't like he was supposed
1:24:21to go off and live with the prophets
1:24:23forever um avery brooks demanded that
1:24:27cisco say he was coming back soon
1:24:29because he's like
1:24:31i'm not gonna play this perfect father
1:24:34who then leaves his pregnant wife like
1:24:37that's so bad and it's still really red
1:24:40as though cisco was leaving his pregnant
1:24:41wife i'm glad avery brooks fought it as
1:24:44much as he could but like oh man
1:24:47that yeah if that show was very nice
1:24:51it looks like some support from robert
1:24:52williams for lower decks also
1:24:54uh
1:24:55i like that uh vince has not seen lower
1:24:58decks vince you need to see lowercase
1:25:01he says he'll get to it soon so
1:25:03he's heard good things all right
1:25:06uh has have you have they both seen
1:25:08picard uh because they can tell me
1:25:10things about picard and i can put them
1:25:12in different parts of the
1:25:15has robert williams seen picard
1:25:18we will wait
1:25:20find out
1:25:21okay
1:25:22until
1:25:23uh robert williams shows up i'm gonna
1:25:25say
1:25:29it's the lag it's nobody's fault yeah
1:25:31hashtag
1:25:35gritty reboot
1:25:37all right commander 401 uh says they
1:25:39stopped paying attention to star trek
1:25:41after they killed data
1:25:43which fair fair uh picard does bring
1:25:46back brett sminer
1:25:50that is all i will say you might want to
1:25:53watch picard if you really like data as
1:25:56a character
1:25:58watch picard i think you would like it
1:26:01uh oh
1:26:04yeah i'm not gonna
1:26:06do they show in the promos that data
1:26:08yeah they show on the promos so
1:26:09commander one also likes enterprise
1:26:16okay
1:26:17enterprise is not in this venn diagram
1:26:19and nova has not seen enterprise
1:26:24island says yeah they did bend dirty
1:26:26yes they didn't bend dirty they also did
1:26:29cassidy dirty and they did good zia the
1:26:31dirtiest yeah oh my god that was yeah
1:26:34that also ruined it for me i happened
1:26:36before season seven i didn't tell nova
1:26:39it was coming
1:26:40and she was just confused when the
1:26:43episode ended and they didn't bring
1:26:45jadziah back to life she's like wait
1:26:48that was
1:26:49stupid that was narratively
1:26:52stupid
1:26:53like it did not work in the narrative
1:26:56why it didn't
1:26:58she was also mad that like there was no
1:27:00scene of her and war like of worf
1:27:02grieving his wife
1:27:04yeah
1:27:06ds9 every time rick berman laid his
1:27:08hands on it it became
1:27:11less good
1:27:13less gay
1:27:15and like
1:27:17yeah less wholesome
1:27:19like
1:27:21can we talk about like
1:27:23the enemies to lovers story we never got
1:27:26with odo and quark
1:27:27actually no enemies with benefits to
1:27:30lovers arc that we should have gotten
1:27:32with odo and quark
1:27:34vince says apparently there's a ds9
1:27:36documentary where the writers got
1:27:38together and storyboarded the first
1:27:39episode of season 8. okay
1:27:41yeah yes you've seen it i have not i i
1:27:43need to show it to you because i've only
1:27:44seen parts i've only seen clips uh in
1:27:47that the writers acknowledge
1:27:49that garrick and bashir were supposed to
1:27:51be a couple initially but that got
1:27:53kybosh they also said there was going to
1:27:55be more quark odo things but that got
1:27:57kibash basically rick berman showed up
1:28:02this is over simplification rick berman
1:28:04shows up as like this show is too gay
1:28:05make it less gay
1:28:07and i am very here for chaotic bisexual
1:28:10julian beshear
1:28:13who just wants to be a bond girl
1:28:17truly
1:28:19like
1:28:21i
1:28:22i just love how
1:28:24chaotic everyone in ds9 is and that like
1:28:28just buy energy that flows through it
1:28:31anyway
1:28:32so we basically covered prodigy not many
1:28:34people have seen it and yeah it's just a
1:28:35it's a kids show and it's like very much
1:28:37a kid's show yeah the characters are
1:28:42if you can't get enough of track watch
1:28:44it i actually i will say
1:28:52yeah berman did do terry farrell dirty
1:28:55and
1:28:56i had mixed feelings about esri
1:28:59um
1:29:01i thought
1:29:02um
1:29:04i think i would have liked her except
1:29:06for what she represented which was
1:29:09like a a more innocent version of ginza
1:29:15yeah i i thought they basically
1:29:17did what rick berman said
1:29:19yeah
1:29:21no why
1:29:25yeah
1:29:27um
1:29:28i definitely think
1:29:30they were ready for
1:29:33the character replacing judzia to be
1:29:35hated
1:29:37so they made her this helpless small
1:29:39beam
1:29:41which was basically
1:29:43one you cannot hate esri
1:29:45because
1:29:46everything she is and does just makes
1:29:49you want to protect her she is helpless
1:29:51and thrown into this situation it's not
1:29:54her fault and she is doing her best
1:29:56just like the actress we love the
1:29:58actress she did her best with a terrible
1:30:00situation
1:30:02however
1:30:03it also very clearly set the message of
1:30:06you need to be meek and mild-mannered
1:30:09and more delicately feminine for you to
1:30:12be okay with us ds9 is i agree but ds9
1:30:16is not part of our venue
1:30:18you're right and commander 401 has very
1:30:20kindly uh moved us back over to picard
1:30:23okay prodigy um
1:30:25saying apparently red letter media did a
1:30:27wonderful thing
1:30:29um
1:30:30a review of some sort and
1:30:32uh yeah i agree they lost the message of
1:30:35nextgen and created a depressing
1:30:37depressing version of star trek
1:30:41okay i had gritty reboot but i'm also
1:30:43gonna put
1:30:46depressing
1:30:48um yeah i think
1:30:51everyone's getting on the gritty reboot
1:30:53trend and i have mixed feelings about it
1:31:02um
1:31:07but yeah
1:31:08okay all told i would say picard was
1:31:12fine yeah
1:31:14oh however
1:31:18one
1:31:19strong positive
1:31:26seven gets close that is true
1:31:29like just yeah i think that's a positive
1:31:31or a unitard
1:31:33yeah
1:31:34no more cat suit i
1:31:36i think seven looks well i think jerry
1:31:38ryan looks amazing in anything but uh i
1:31:41think the leather jacket and guns
1:31:44yeah also they let's settle
1:31:46and no more awkward heels that she can't
1:31:48run in oh yeah and she just gets to be
1:31:52chaotic good
1:31:54like
1:31:55they
1:31:56they have her
1:31:57get to the federation realize it's not
1:31:59all it's cracked up to be
1:32:01and she fights for
1:32:04good and justice and can't do that
1:32:06inside the federation which
1:32:08for the world i do think it really
1:32:12picard really really damages
1:32:15the world of the federation
1:32:18in terms of like its ideals
1:32:21but i think it does a great job with the
1:32:23character of seven of nine yeah oh i
1:32:26should also add i am specifically mad at
1:32:30this
1:32:33also saint vince we love garrick
1:32:45you're doing great with those text boxes
1:32:48the this is not um is new to the
1:32:50software so
1:32:53uh garrick
1:32:55was possibly
1:32:58the just
1:33:00most
1:33:01overtly
1:33:04queer character in star trek
1:33:07up until
1:33:08uh we got of course discovery but it was
1:33:11modern traffic yeah but discovery is not
1:33:13in this
1:33:14uh venn diagram
1:33:16one thing i really
1:33:18really really did not like about picard
1:33:23was the queerbaiting uh specifically
1:33:26queer catching
1:33:28um
1:33:29with seven and rafi before season one
1:33:33they announced like or during season one
1:33:35they announced that seven and rafi would
1:33:37be a couple
1:33:38seven and rafi get very few scenes
1:33:40together and like
1:33:42the straight couple the like doctor and
1:33:44the pilot
1:33:46not the doctor doctor the uh scientist
1:33:48and the pilot they get like all of these
1:33:51scenes they get all of this development
1:33:53i was ready for like rafi and seven to
1:33:55have
1:33:56any moments
1:33:58they start not trusting each other i'm
1:34:00like great this is gonna be like an
1:34:01enemies to lovers thing we know the
1:34:03trope we love the trope
1:34:04um
1:34:06and then they just don't have any scenes
1:34:08together until the end where they're
1:34:09holding hands
1:34:11look at me ha you don't see how they got
1:34:14there and you assume it happened off
1:34:16screen because they are all sharing the
1:34:18ship
1:34:18but not for very long because seven's
1:34:21off doing her own thing for most of the
1:34:22season and rafi's got like her own
1:34:25problems with her old family and like
1:34:29if ins i hope that in season two we get
1:34:32some seven raffy stuff but
1:34:36if we don't like
1:34:38even if we do
1:34:40it is not okay
1:34:43to basically say hey we have these two
1:34:46queer characters
1:34:48and then not show them until the very
1:34:51very closing scene of the season
1:34:54where they're just like
1:34:56sort of holding hands in a blink and you
1:34:58miss it or they're just good friends now
1:35:01i guess because it's the final episode
1:35:04like
1:35:05if it hadn't been announced i wouldn't
1:35:06have seen it and i am in that way
1:35:08thank you for your rant
1:35:10um we have a little bit in the chat so
1:35:11first of all robert williams is by the
1:35:13sounds of it a very impressive array of
1:35:15track cast autographs oh boy um i do not
1:35:19doubt it more comments like yeah just
1:35:21the the gritty reboot capitalizes on the
1:35:23fact that
1:35:24the world's kind of hopeless
1:35:26uh which it is yep
1:35:29and apparently
1:35:31already had a kid uh when she started a
1:35:33voyager
1:35:36good for her
1:35:37truly the goat yeah
1:35:40jerry ryan's amazing i think she's
1:35:42awesome
1:35:43anyway i think we should
1:35:46do lower dicks and figure out why it's
1:35:49great and then we might want to wrap
1:35:51things up because our crock pot is
1:35:53almost done making us dinner
1:35:55okay
1:35:56so i think
1:35:58now here is my
1:36:00thought
1:36:02um prodigy
1:36:05and picard
1:36:07are both
1:36:12actually i don't need a new text box for
1:36:14this i'm just going to drag one
1:36:18they are both super depressing
1:36:21like
1:36:23prodigy opens
1:36:25in a prison far from the federation
1:36:28where it's very cl where the prisoners
1:36:30are denied universal translators so they
1:36:32can't talk to each other so they're
1:36:34basically all in solitary confinement
1:36:36while doing hard labor many of the
1:36:38prisoners are literal children
1:36:41and none of the prisoners actually did
1:36:43anything like it is made very clear
1:36:46that like it's just slaves which is a
1:36:49lot for a kid's show and it is amazing
1:36:51so
1:36:52good job getting your steps today yay
1:36:54good job robert getting your steps uh
1:36:56the way they make it clear that these
1:36:58are just literal slaves and nobody
1:37:00actually committed any crimes like this
1:37:02isn't like we can talk about the prison
1:37:04industrial complex they're like taking
1:37:05it to the extreme
1:37:07in the first episode
1:37:09um this prison buys
1:37:12a toddler
1:37:15like it's a it's like one of those it's
1:37:17a cat person
1:37:19who doesn't speak like who's an alien
1:37:22but it is toddler coded like the child
1:37:25who is making the purchase because of
1:37:27course like even children like there's
1:37:29even a child running
1:37:30we've established so they're both
1:37:32depressed depressing as hell now why do
1:37:34we like lower decks it is i believe and
1:37:37feel free
1:37:39to like
1:37:41give your own theories because i really
1:37:42do want to hear other people's theories
1:37:46i think
1:37:48that the reason lower dex is the best
1:37:52is because
1:37:54it is earnest
1:37:57it is a
1:37:59just
1:38:00beautiful
1:38:02love letter to everything that is silly
1:38:05about trek like every parody it does
1:38:09it does with genuine love for the thing
1:38:12it's parodying
1:38:14um all of
1:38:16the
1:38:18uh
1:38:20mains like
1:38:21mariner tendy
1:38:24boimler and um
1:38:27what's his name
1:38:30shoot cyborg uh
1:38:33oh no
1:38:36i'm having a moment you were supposed to
1:38:38have this this is this is your venn
1:38:39diagram all four of the mains are huge
1:38:43nerdy fans like
1:38:47it is
1:38:49oh god
1:38:51i i broke it
1:38:53uh
1:38:54it is fan
1:38:58it is fan inclusive
1:39:01like
1:39:01i think
1:39:03prodigy is
1:39:05it's not a family show it's very clearly
1:39:07a kids show like prodigy does a lot of
1:39:10explaining what is happening rather than
1:39:12just letting it happen sam rutherford
1:39:16wright rutherford
1:39:18right rutherford
1:39:19rutherford tendy mariner and boymore
1:39:22those are our mans they are all
1:39:26amazing i love them all for different
1:39:28reasons
1:39:30like they are all so
1:39:32earnest and lovely i feel like i know
1:39:34all of them in real life like i know
1:39:36versions of them in real life
1:39:38and it's not making fun of track it's a
1:39:40stand-up of trap yeah
1:39:43it is making fun with track
1:39:45and it
1:39:47it is a satire but it is with love
1:39:50and
1:39:52every time i watch the lower decks it is
1:39:54an escape
1:39:55and i would say the gritty reality not
1:39:57only is it fan inclusive with an eye
1:40:00um
1:40:01but it is oh
1:40:05um also
1:40:07i can't very inclusive
1:40:09of
1:40:10people who've seen very little truck so
1:40:13[Music]
1:40:14maybe casual fans or
1:40:16not even fans people who are new to the
1:40:19series who maybe are familiar with you
1:40:22know tos because just part of the
1:40:23cultural lexicon
1:40:25i would venture that prodigy is also
1:40:27very newbie inclusive it is they are
1:40:29both newbie inclusive
1:40:31um
1:40:32but lower dex manages to be that well
1:40:34also being really exciting
1:40:38for
1:40:39old timers which i think is an
1:40:41impressive
1:40:42uh line to walk
1:40:47um
1:40:51i mean fan service in the good way
1:40:54like
1:40:55but yeah those are both fan services car
1:40:57picard and lower decks are both there
1:41:01to serve people who have seen all of
1:41:04track
1:41:06prodigy
1:41:08and lower decks are newbie inclusive but
1:41:10i think that might be another thing that
1:41:12lower dex has going for it
1:41:14there is no thanks robert
1:41:16uh what did robert say uh told us that
1:41:19that that's rough preferred because we'd
1:41:21forgotten rutherford but
1:41:23but the lag is so bad that yeah yeah
1:41:27yeah
1:41:28also yeah picard took the utopia out of
1:41:30utopia
1:41:31how do you say it planacia
1:41:33yeah
1:41:34yep yeah
1:41:37it was
1:41:38i thought
1:41:40so
1:41:41lower dex
1:41:44um is
1:41:47a happy escapist show
1:41:51that
1:41:53embraces
1:41:55the o.g ideals of
1:41:58the federation like they don't do the
1:42:00silly gene roddenberry no interpersonal
1:42:02conflict
1:42:04but
1:42:05they all
1:42:06work really hard to resolve their
1:42:09interpersonal conflicts
1:42:11and
1:42:12yeah that i think is quite lovely
1:42:15um
1:42:17oh
1:42:18one thing
1:42:20i should also say uh i do think we
1:42:22should let people go pretty soon
1:42:24they're both yeah both lower decks and
1:42:27prodigy i think are explicitly left this
1:42:29is cool yeah whereas
1:42:31picard is like
1:42:34just gritty
1:42:36like it's vaguely dystopian so
1:42:44picard is liberal brownie points yeah
1:42:48like
1:42:49it
1:42:52it does the queer catching thing
1:42:54it has the
1:42:57woman admiral say sheer hubris
1:43:01but she's still the villain in that
1:43:02scene even though she's right
1:43:04that like he can't just quit starfleet
1:43:06and then walk in asking them for favors
1:43:08decades late like a decade later
1:43:10anyway
1:43:11i think we should wrap this up we've
1:43:13pretty much covered it we like lower
1:43:15decks we've said this repeatedly and in
1:43:17many ways i will take a screenshot
1:43:20hungry yeah i'm

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