Amy Cuddy - El lenguaje corporal moldea nuestra identidad — Transcript
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- 0:16So, I want to start by um offering you a
- 0:18free no-tech life hack.
- 0:21Um and all it requires of you is this,
- 0:24that you change your posture
- 0:26for 2 minutes. But before I give it
- 0:29away, I want to ask you to right now do
- 0:31a little audit of your body and what
- 0:33you're doing with your body. So, how
- 0:35many of you are sort of making
- 0:36yourselves smaller? Maybe you're
- 0:37hunching, um crossing your legs, maybe
- 0:40wrapping your ankles. Sometimes we hold
- 0:42on to our arms like this.
- 0:44Uh sometimes we uh spread out.
- 0:49I see you. Um
- 0:51so, I want you to pay attention to what
- 0:52you're doing right now. We're going to
- 0:54come back to that in a few minutes. And
- 0:56I'm hoping that if you sort of learn to
- 0:57tweak this a little bit, it could
- 0:59significantly change the way your life
- 1:01unfolds.
- 1:03Um
- 1:03So, we're really fascinated with body
- 1:06language. And we're particularly
- 1:08interested in other people's body
- 1:10language. You know, we're interested in
- 1:13like, you know, um
- 1:15a
- 1:16uh
- 1:17uh an awkward interaction or a smile or
- 1:20a contemptuous glance or maybe a a very
- 1:22awkward wink
- 1:24um or maybe even something like a
- 1:25handshake.
- 1:27Here they are arriving at number 10 and
- 1:29uh Look at this lucky policeman gets to
- 1:31shake hands with the president of the
- 1:33United States. Oh, here comes the prime
- 1:35minister of the
- 1:36No.
- 1:42SO, UM A HANDSHAKE OR THE LACK OF A
- 1:45handshake can have us talking for weeks
- 1:48and weeks and weeks, even the BBC and
- 1:50the New York Times. So, so obviously
- 1:52when we think about nonverbal behavior
- 1:55or body language, but we call it
- 1:56nonverbals as social scientists. It's
- 1:58language. So, we think about
- 2:00communication. When we think about
- 2:01communication, we think about
- 2:03interactions. So, what is your body
- 2:05language communicating to me? What's
- 2:07mine communicating to you? And there's a
- 2:09lot of reason to
- 2:11to believe that this is this is a valid
- 2:13way to look at this. So, social
- 2:14scientists have spent a lot of time
- 2:16looking at the effects of
- 2:18our body language or other people's body
- 2:20language on judgments. And we make
- 2:22sweeping judgments and inferences from
- 2:24body language. And those judgments can
- 2:27predict really meaningful life outcomes
- 2:29like who we hire or promote, who we ask
- 2:31out on a date. For example,
- 2:34uh
- 2:35uh Nalini Ambady, a researcher at Tufts
- 2:36University, shows that when people watch
- 2:3930-minute 30-second soundless clips of
- 2:42real physician-patient interactions,
- 2:45their judgments of the physician's
- 2:46niceness
- 2:48predict whether or not that physician
- 2:49will be sued. So, it doesn't have to do
- 2:51so much with whether or not that
- 2:52physician was incompetent, but do we
- 2:54like that person and then how they
- 2:55interacted? Um Even more dramatic, Alex
- 2:59Todorov at Princeton has shown us that
- 3:01um judgments of political candidates'
- 3:03faces in just 1 second predict 70% of US
- 3:08Senate and gubernatorial race outcomes.
- 3:12And even let's go digital. Emoticons
- 3:16used well in online negotiations can
- 3:18lead you to claim more value from that
- 3:20negotiation. If you use them poorly, bad
- 3:22idea, right? So, So, when we think of
- 3:26nonverbals, we think of how we judge
- 3:27others, how they judge us, and what the
- 3:29outcomes are. We tend to forget though
- 3:31the other audience that's influenced by
- 3:33our nonverbals, and that's ourselves. We
- 3:36are also influenced by our nonverbals,
- 3:38our thoughts and our feelings and our
- 3:40physiology. So, what nonverbals am I
- 3:43talking about? I'm a social
- 3:45psychologist. I study prejudice and I
- 3:48teach at a competitive business school.
- 3:50So, it was inevitable that I would
- 3:52become interested in power dynamics. I
- 3:54became especially interested in
- 3:57nonverbal expressions of power and
- 3:59dominance.
- 4:00Um and what are nonverbal expressions of
- 4:02power and dominance? Well,
- 4:04this is what they are. So, in the animal
- 4:06kingdom, they are about expanding. So,
- 4:08you make yourself big, you stretch out,
- 4:11you take up space, you're basically
- 4:13opening up. It's about opening up. And
- 4:16this is true across the animal kingdom.
- 4:18It's not just limited to primates
- 4:21and humans do the same thing.
- 4:24So, they do this both when they when
- 4:25they have power sort of chronically and
- 4:28also when they're feeling powerful in
- 4:29the moment. And this one is especially
- 4:32interesting because it really shows us
- 4:34how universal and old these expressions
- 4:37of power are. This expression, which is
- 4:39known as pride, uh Jessica Tracy has
- 4:42studied. She shows that people who are
- 4:44born with sight and people who are
- 4:46congenitally blind do this when they win
- 4:49at a physical competition. So, when they
- 4:51cross the finish line and they've won,
- 4:53it doesn't matter if they've never seen
- 4:54anyone do it, they do this. So, the arms
- 4:57up in the V, the chin is slightly
- 4:59lifted. What do we do when we feel
- 5:01powerless? We do exactly the opposite.
- 5:03We close up, we wrap ourselves up, we
- 5:06make ourselves small, we don't want to
- 5:07bump into the person next to us. So,
- 5:09again, both animals and humans do the
- 5:11same thing.
- 5:13And this is what happens when you put
- 5:15together high and low power. So, what we
- 5:17tend to do when it comes to power is
- 5:19that we complement the others
- 5:21nonverbals. So, if someone's being
- 5:23really powerful with us, we tend to make
- 5:25ourselves smaller. We don't mirror them,
- 5:27we do the opposite of them.
- 5:29So,
- 5:30I'm watching this behavior in the
- 5:31classroom
- 5:32and um
- 5:34what do I notice? I notice that
- 5:36uh
- 5:37MBA students really exhibit the full
- 5:40range of power nonverbals. So, you have
- 5:42people who are like caricatures of
- 5:44alphas, like really come into the room,
- 5:46they get right into the middle of the
- 5:47room before class even starts. Like they
- 5:49really want to occupy space.
- 5:51Um when they sit down, they're sort of
- 5:53spread out. They raise their hands like
- 5:54this. Um
- 5:56you have other people who are virtually
- 5:57collapsing when they come in. As soon as
- 5:59they come in, you see it. You see it on
- 6:01their faces and their bodies. And they
- 6:03sit in their chair and they make
- 6:04themselves tiny. And they they go like
- 6:06this when they raise their hand.
- 6:08I noticed a couple things about this.
- 6:09One, you're not going to be surprised,
- 6:11it seems to be related to gender.
- 6:14So, um
- 6:15women are much more likely to do this
- 6:17kind of thing than men.
- 6:19Um women feel chronically less powerful
- 6:21than men. So, this is not surprising. Um
- 6:24but the other thing I noticed is that it
- 6:26also seemed to be related to the extent
- 6:28to which the students were participating
- 6:30and how well they were participating.
- 6:32And this is really important in the MBA
- 6:34classroom because participation counts
- 6:36for half the grade.
- 6:38So,
- 6:39business schools have been struggling
- 6:40with this gender grade gap. You get
- 6:42these equally qualified women and men
- 6:44coming in.
- 6:46And then you get these differences in
- 6:47grades. And it seems to be partly
- 6:48attributable to participation. So, I
- 6:51started to wonder, you know, okay. So,
- 6:54you have these people coming in like
- 6:55this and they're participating. Is it
- 6:57possible that we could get people to
- 6:59fake it? And would it lead them to
- 7:01participate more? So, my main
- 7:03collaborator, Dana Carney,
- 7:05who's at Berkeley, and I really wanted
- 7:07to know, can you fake it till you make
- 7:09it? Like can you do this just for a
- 7:11little while and actually experience a
- 7:14behavioral outcome that makes you seem
- 7:15more powerful? So, we know that our
- 7:18nonverbals govern how other people think
- 7:20and feel about us. There's a lot of
- 7:22evidence. But our question really was,
- 7:24do our nonverbals govern how we think
- 7:26and feel about ourselves?
- 7:29There's some evidence that they do. So,
- 7:32for example, um
- 7:33when we we smile when we feel happy, but
- 7:36also when we're forced to smile by
- 7:37holding a pen in our teeth like this,
- 7:41it makes us feel happy.
- 7:42So, it goes both ways. When it comes to
- 7:44power,
- 7:46um
- 7:46it also goes both ways. So, when you
- 7:49when you uh feel powerful, you're more
- 7:51likely to do this, but it's also
- 7:53possible that um
- 7:55when you when you uh pretend to be
- 7:57powerful, you are more likely to
- 8:00actually feel powerful.
- 8:02So, the second question really was, you
- 8:04know, so we know that our minds change
- 8:07our bodies, but is it also true that
- 8:09that our bodies change our minds?
- 8:12And when I say minds in the case of the
- 8:14powerful, what am I talking about? So,
- 8:16I'm talking about thoughts and feelings
- 8:19and the sort of physiological things
- 8:20that make up our our thoughts and
- 8:21feelings. And in my case, that's
- 8:23hormones. I look at hormones. So, what
- 8:25do the minds of the powerful versus the
- 8:28powerless look like?
- 8:30So, powerful people
- 8:32tend to be, not surprisingly, more
- 8:34assertive and more confident, um more
- 8:36more optimistic. They actually feel that
- 8:38they're going to win even at games of
- 8:40chance. Uh
- 8:42they also tend to be able to think more
- 8:44abstractly. So, there are a lot of
- 8:45differences. They take more risks. There
- 8:47are a lot of differences between
- 8:49powerful and powerless people.
- 8:51Physiologically, there also are
- 8:53differences on two key hormones, testos-
- 8:56testosterone, which is the dominance
- 8:57hormone,
- 8:58and cortisol, which is the stress
- 9:00hormone.
- 9:01So,
- 9:02what we find is that um
- 9:05uh high-power alpha males in primate
- 9:08hierarchies have high testosterone and
- 9:10low cortisol.
- 9:12And
- 9:13powerful and effective leaders also have
- 9:15high testosterone and low cortisol. So,
- 9:18what does that mean? When you think
- 9:20about power, tend people tended to think
- 9:21only about testosterone cuz that was
- 9:23about dominance, but really power is
- 9:25also about how you react to stress. So,
- 9:28do you want the high-power leader that's
- 9:30dominant, high on testosterone, but it's
- 9:32really stress reactive? Probably not,
- 9:34right? You want the person who's
- 9:36powerful and assertive and dominant, but
- 9:39not very stress reactive, the person
- 9:40who's laid back. So,
- 9:43we know that
- 9:44in in in private hierarchies, if an
- 9:47alpha needs to take over
- 9:50if if an individual needs to take over
- 9:52an alpha role sort of suddenly,
- 9:54within a few days, that individual's
- 9:56testosterone has gone up significantly
- 9:58and its cortisol has dropped
- 9:59significantly. So, we have this evidence
- 10:02both that the body can shape the mind at
- 10:04least at the facial level. Um and also
- 10:08that role changes can shape the mind.
- 10:10So, what happens? Okay, you take a role
- 10:12change. Um what happens if you do that
- 10:15at a really minimal level like this tiny
- 10:16manipulation, this tiny intervention for
- 10:192 minutes you say, "I want you to stand
- 10:21like this and it's going to make you
- 10:22feel more powerful."
- 10:24So,
- 10:25this is what we did. We decided to bring
- 10:28people into the lab and run a little
- 10:30experiment. And these people adopted for
- 10:332 minutes either high power poses or low
- 10:37power poses. And I'm just going to show
- 10:39you five of the poses although they took
- 10:40on only two.
- 10:42So, here's one.
- 10:45Couple more.
- 10:47This one has been dubbed the Wonder
- 10:49Woman by the media.
- 10:51Here a couple more.
- 10:53So, you can be standing or you can be
- 10:54sitting.
- 10:56Uh and here are the low power poses. So,
- 10:57you're folding up, you're making
- 10:58yourself small.
- 11:02This one is very low power. When you're
- 11:03touching your neck, you're really kind
- 11:05of protecting yourself.
- 11:07So, this is what happens. They come in,
- 11:10they spit into a vial. We for 2 minutes
- 11:12say, "You need to do this or this." They
- 11:14don't look at pictures of the poses. We
- 11:16don't want to prime them with the
- 11:17concept of power. We want them to be
- 11:19feeling power, right? So, 2 minutes they
- 11:21do this.
- 11:22We then ask them how powerful do you
- 11:24feel on a series of items and then we
- 11:26give them an opportunity to gamble.
- 11:28And then we take another saliva sample.
- 11:31That's it. That's the whole experiment.
- 11:32So, this is what we find. Risk
- 11:34tolerance, which is the gambling. What
- 11:36we find is that when you when the when
- 11:38you're in the high power pose condition,
- 11:4086% of you will gamble. When we are in
- 11:43the low power pose condition, only 60%
- 11:45and that's a pretty whopping significant
- 11:47difference.
- 11:48Here's what we find on testosterone.
- 11:51From their baseline when they come in,
- 11:53high power people experience about a 20%
- 11:56increase
- 11:57and low power people experience about a
- 12:0010% decrease. So, again, 2 minutes and
- 12:02you get these changes. Here's what you
- 12:05get on cortisol. High power people
- 12:07experience about a 25% decrease
- 12:10and the low power people experience
- 12:12about a 15% increase. So, 2 minutes lead
- 12:15to these hormonal changes that configure
- 12:18your brain to basically be either
- 12:20assertive, confident, and comfortable or
- 12:24really stress reactive. Um and you know,
- 12:26feeling sort of shut down and we've all
- 12:28had that feeling, right?
- 12:30So, it seems that our nonverbals do
- 12:33govern how we think and feel about
- 12:35ourselves. So, it's not just others, but
- 12:37it's also ourselves. It also our bodies
- 12:40change our minds.
- 12:41But, the next question, of course, is
- 12:43can power posing for a few minutes
- 12:45really change your life in meaningful
- 12:47ways? So, this is in the lab. It's this
- 12:48little task. You know, it's just a
- 12:50couple of minutes. You know, where can
- 12:52you actually apply this? Which we cared
- 12:53about, of course.
- 12:55And so, we think it's really what what
- 12:58what matters I mean, where you want to
- 12:59use this is evaluative situations like
- 13:02social threat situations. Where are you
- 13:04being evaluated? Either by your friends,
- 13:06like for teenagers at at the lunch room
- 13:08table. It could be, you know, for some
- 13:10people it's speaking at a school board
- 13:13meeting. It might be giving a pitch or
- 13:15giving a talk like this or um doing a
- 13:18job interview.
- 13:20We decided that the one that most people
- 13:21could relate to because most people had
- 13:23been through was the job interview. So,
- 13:26um we published these these findings and
- 13:28the media are all over it and they say,
- 13:30um,
- 13:31"Okay, so this is what you do when you
- 13:32go in for the job interview, right?"
- 13:34You know, so we were of course horrified
- 13:36and I said, "Oh my god, no, no, no,
- 13:38that's not what we meant at all for a
- 13:39new numerous reasons. No, no, no, don't
- 13:41do that." Again, this is not about you
- 13:43talking to other people, it's you
- 13:45talking to yourself. What do you do
- 13:46before you go into a job interview? You
- 13:48do this, right? You're sitting down,
- 13:50you're looking at your iPhone or your
- 13:52Android, not trying to leave anyone out.
- 13:54You are you know, you're looking at your
- 13:56notes, you're hunching up, making
- 13:57yourself small. When really what you
- 13:58should be doing maybe is this, like in
- 14:00the bathroom, right? Do that, find 2
- 14:03minutes. So, that's what we want to
- 14:04test, okay? So, we bring people into a
- 14:06lab and they do a couple they do either
- 14:09high or low power poses again. They go
- 14:11through a very stressful job interview.
- 14:13It's 5 minutes long. They are being
- 14:16recorded, they're being judged also, and
- 14:19the judges are trained to give no
- 14:22nonverbal feedback. So, they look like
- 14:24this, like imagine this is the person
- 14:26interviewing you.
- 14:27So, for 5 minutes, nothing. And this is
- 14:30worse than being heckled. People hate
- 14:33this. It's it's what Marianne LaFrance
- 14:35calls standing in social quicksand. So,
- 14:37this really spikes your cortisol. So,
- 14:39this is the job interview we put them
- 14:41through cuz we really wanted to see what
- 14:42happened.
- 14:44We then have these coders look at these
- 14:46tapes, four of them. They're blind to
- 14:47the hypothesis, they're blind to the
- 14:49conditions, they have no idea who's been
- 14:51posing in what pose. And they they they
- 14:54end up
- 14:56looking at these sets of tapes and they
- 14:58say, "Oh, we want to hire these people."
- 15:00All the high power posers. "We don't
- 15:01want to hire these people." We also
- 15:04evaluate these people much more
- 15:05positively overall. But what's driving
- 15:08it? It's not about the content of the
- 15:10speech, it's about the presence that
- 15:13they're bringing to the speech. We also
- 15:14because we rate them on all these
- 15:15variables related to sort of confidence,
- 15:17like how well structured is the speech,
- 15:19how good is it, what are their
- 15:20qualifications, No effect on those
- 15:22things. This is what's affected. These
- 15:25kinds of things. People are bringing
- 15:27their true selves, basically. They're
- 15:28bringing themselves. They bring their
- 15:30ideas, but as themselves with no, you
- 15:33know, residue over them. So, this is
- 15:35what's driving the effect or mediate
- 15:37mediating the effect.
- 15:39So,
- 15:40um when I tell people about this, that
- 15:43our bodies change our minds and our
- 15:44minds can change our behavior and our
- 15:46behavior can change our outcomes, they
- 15:47say to me,
- 15:48"I don't it feels fake, right?" So, I
- 15:51said, "Fake it till you make it." Like,
- 15:52"I don't it's not me. Like, I don't want
- 15:55to get there and then still feel like a
- 15:57fraud. I don't want to feel like an
- 15:58impostor. I don't want to get there only
- 16:00to feel like I'm not supposed to be
- 16:02here."
- 16:03And that really resonated with me
- 16:05because I want to tell you a little
- 16:07story about being an impostor and
- 16:09feeling like I'm not supposed to be
- 16:10here.
- 16:11When I was 19,
- 16:13I was in a really bad car accident. I
- 16:14was thrown out of a car,
- 16:16rolled several times. I was thrown from
- 16:18the car. And um I woke up in a head
- 16:20injury rehab ward. And I had been
- 16:23withdrawn from college. Um
- 16:25and I learned that my IQ had dropped by
- 16:28two standard deviations,
- 16:30which was um
- 16:32very traumatic. I knew my IQ because I
- 16:34had identified with being smart and I
- 16:36had been called gifted as a child. So,
- 16:38I'm taken out of college. I keep trying
- 16:40to go back. They say, "You're not going
- 16:41to finish college." Like, just, you
- 16:43know,
- 16:44there's there other things for you to
- 16:45do, but that's not going to work out for
- 16:47you.
- 16:47So, I I really struggled with this and I
- 16:51have to say having your identity taken
- 16:52from you, your core identity and a for
- 16:54me it was being smart, having that taken
- 16:57from you, there's nothing that leaves
- 16:58you feeling more powerless than that.
- 17:00So, I felt entirely powerless. I worked
- 17:02and worked and worked and I got lucky
- 17:04and worked and got lucky and worked.
- 17:06Eventually, I graduated from college.
- 17:08Took me 4 years longer than my peers.
- 17:10And I convinced someone, my my angel uh
- 17:14advisor, Susan Fiske, to take me on. And
- 17:16so, I ended up at Princeton, and I was
- 17:18like, I am not supposed to be here. I am
- 17:21an impostor. And the night before my
- 17:23first year talk in the first year talk
- 17:24at Princeton is a 20-minute talk to 20
- 17:27people. That's it. I was so afraid of
- 17:29being found out the next day that I
- 17:32called her and said, I'm quitting.
- 17:34She was like, you are not quitting
- 17:36because I took a gamble on you and
- 17:37you're staying. You're going to stay,
- 17:39and this is what you're going to do. You
- 17:41are going to fake it. You're going to
- 17:42take you're going to do every talk that
- 17:44you ever get asked to do. You're just
- 17:46going to do it and do it and do it even
- 17:48if you're terrified and just paralyzed
- 17:50and having an out-of-body experience
- 17:52until you have this moment where you
- 17:54say, "Oh my gosh, I'm doing it. Like I
- 17:56have become this. I am actually doing
- 17:58this." So, that's what I did. Five years
- 18:00in grad school, few years, you know, I'm
- 18:02at Northwestern, I move to Harvard. I'm
- 18:05at Harvard. I'm not really thinking
- 18:06about it anymore, but for a long time I
- 18:08had been thinking, "Not supposed to be
- 18:10here. I'm not supposed to be here." So,
- 18:12the end of my first year at Harvard,
- 18:14um
- 18:16a student who had not talked in class
- 18:17the entire semester, who I had said,
- 18:19"Look, you've got to participate or else
- 18:21you're going to fail." came into my
- 18:22office. I really didn't know her at all.
- 18:24And she said,
- 18:26she came in totally defeated and she
- 18:28said,
- 18:29"I'm not supposed to be here."
- 18:36And that was the moment for me because
- 18:37two things happened. One was that I
- 18:39realized,
- 18:40"Oh my gosh, I don't feel like that
- 18:41anymore, you know?" I don't feel that
- 18:43anymore, but she does. And I get that
- 18:45feeling, and the second was, she is
- 18:47supposed to be here. Like she can fake
- 18:49it. She can become it. So, I was like,
- 18:51"Yes, you are. You are supposed to be
- 18:53here, and tomorrow you're going to fake
- 18:55it. You're going to make yourself
- 18:56powerful, and you know,
- 18:59YOU'RE GOING TO
- 19:04AND
- 19:05YOU'RE GOING TO GO YOU'RE GOING TO GO
- 19:07INTO THE CLASSROOM, and you are going to
- 19:09give the best comment ever, you know?
- 19:11And she gave the best comment ever. And
- 19:13people turned around they were like, "Oh
- 19:14my god, I didn't even notice her sitting
- 19:16there, you know?"
- 19:18She comes back to me months later and I
- 19:20realize that she had not just faked it
- 19:22till she made it. She'd actually faked
- 19:24it till she became it. So, she had
- 19:26changed. Um and so I I I I want to say
- 19:30to you, don't fake it till you make it.
- 19:32Fake it till you become it.
- 19:33You know, it's not do it enough until
- 19:35you actually become it and internalize.
- 19:38The last thing I want to leave you with
- 19:39is this.
- 19:40Tiny tweaks
- 19:42can lead to big changes.
- 19:45So,
- 19:46this is 2 minutes. 2 minutes, 2 minutes,
- 19:492 minutes. Before you go into the next
- 19:51stressful evaluative situation, for 2
- 19:53minutes try doing this in the elevator,
- 19:55in a bathroom stall, at your desk behind
- 19:58closed doors. That's what you want to
- 19:59do. Get Configure your brain to cope the
- 20:02best in that situation. Get your
- 20:03testosterone up, get your cortisol down.
- 20:06Don't leave that situation feeling like,
- 20:08"Oh, I didn't show them who I am." Leave
- 20:10that situation feeling like, "Oh, I
- 20:11really feel like I got to say who I am
- 20:13and show who I am." So, I want to ask
- 20:15you first, you know,
- 20:17both to try power posing
- 20:20and also I want to ask you to share this
- 20:23science cuz this is simple. I don't have
- 20:26ego involved in this. Give it away. Like
- 20:28share it with people because the people
- 20:30who can use it the most are the ones
- 20:31with no resources and no technology and
- 20:35no status and no power. Give it to them
- 20:38because they can do it in private. They
- 20:40need their bodies, privacy, and 2
- 20:42minutes and it can significantly change
- 20:44the outcomes of their life. Thank you.
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