ALL IRELAND FINAL ROADSHOW | Drive in Kerry | Mayo’s hope? | BRADY, McGEENEY, ANDREWS & O’DONOGHUE — Transcript

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1. 0:08Grim.
2. 0:09>> Yeah,
3. 0:15>> there we are. There we are.
4. 0:16>> Welcome back everyone. Thanks a million
5. 0:17for rejoining us here at Croak Park. Can
6. 0:20we get a big warm welcome once again for
7. 0:22Kieran McGini, everyone?
8. 0:25[applause]
9. 0:28A big welcome back to Patty Andrews.
10. 0:30[applause]
11. 0:33>> And a big hello once again to James
12. 0:35Adonah who
13. 0:39[laughter]
14. 0:39Carrie Crowder in. Baby,
15. 0:41>> should we move off the hand passing the
16. 0:43ball over the bar subject or do you have
17. 0:45any final thoughts, James?
18. 0:47>> Ah, come on, James. You're up on stage
19. 0:48now, buddy.
20. 0:51>> Are we actually going back there again?
21. 0:56>> [laughter]
22. 0:57>> Okay. My point on the fisted point is
23. 0:59that
24. 1:02not necessarily that you should go for
25. 1:04goal every time.
26. 1:06>> It's some are allowed.
27. 1:07>> What's that?
28. 1:08>> So, some are allowed.
29. 1:10>> No, we b them all.
30. 1:11>> You said not every time.
31. 1:13>> All not everyone is a goal, but it would
32. 1:15make you shoot as a corner forward from
33. 1:17tighter angles. And I think the crowd
34. 1:19would appreciate those scores a lot
35. 1:21more.
36. 1:22>> Okay. If I asked you, did the crowd
37. 1:23always appreciate it when you missed?
38. 1:26>> If you missed
39. 1:27>> when you missed.
40. 1:28>> Yeah, but that's the challenge then to
41. 1:30get good enough
42. 1:31>> to not miss.
43. 1:32>> So why did you take a fisting point that
44. 1:33time?
45. 1:35>> Three of them by the way.
46. 1:36>> Three in one match.
47. 1:37>> He fisted three points in the moment.
48. 1:39>> Because I It's in the
49. 1:41>> Yeah. No, [laughter]
50. 1:43>> it's okay when David does it, isn't it?
51. 1:45>> It's in It's in the rules, so I can do
52. 1:48it. But I would change it.
53. 1:50>> That's [laughter] fair.
54. 1:51>> That's fair. You're It's a game of
55. 1:53opinions.
56. 1:53>> Exactly. Exactly.
57. 1:55>> It is. But look, it's not in the next
58. 1:58list of rule changes, is it?
59. 1:59>> I don't think so. Not what the next
60. 2:01committee is working on anyway.
61. 2:03>> But Patty, our 12-part series is coming
62. 2:05out later this autumn. You can tune.
63. 2:07>> But as well, Kieran made a good point
64. 2:08where you look at old games and if you
65. 2:10ever see um reeling in the ears and
66. 2:13things and you see the goals being
67. 2:15fisted in and you're like, "Fuck, they
68. 2:17don't it doesn't look great." Like I
69. 2:19reckon 20 years time if we were to get
70. 2:20rid of the fist of point and we look
71. 2:22back at it you'll be saying Jesus that
72. 2:25looks good.
73. 2:26>> I know but we do that with everything.
74. 2:27>> Huh?
75. 2:28>> We do that with everything. [laughter]
76. 2:30>> I know. I know we do.
77. 2:31>> Patty that point he fisted with the
78. 2:33Legion was from about 30 yards.
79. 2:34>> I know. Yeah. Well, that happens when
80. 2:36you get old and you've no pace anymore
81. 2:37as well.
82. 2:39>> Play that clip again. There was loads of
83. 2:41pace in that. [laughter]
84. 2:43>> It's nice to be back up actually, isn't
85. 2:45it? Because
86. 2:46>> honestly,
87. 2:46>> we were sent into the ball corner there
88. 2:47for 45 minutes.
89. 2:49>> [ __ ] security was showing us out of
90. 2:51our own show. [laughter] Like Jesus
91. 2:52Christ.
92. 2:53>> You can blame Donah for that one from
93. 2:54last year.
94. 2:55>> Can we come back in?
95. 2:57>> No, it's great to be back up.
96. 2:59>> It is. It is.
97. 3:00>> Kieran, what's it like or what was it
98. 3:01like having Kieran Donahe with you for
99. 3:04those couple of years? He brought
100. 3:05obviously plenty to the table.
101. 3:07>> Yeah. Well, as we were speaking earlier
102. 3:09on, the only thing is you just didn't
103. 3:10want to go in the beer with him.
104. 3:12[laughter]
105. 3:15He he definitely he beat us all hands
106. 3:17down on that one. No, Kieran was great
107. 3:20having in like a brilliant coach, but
108. 3:21he's a brilliant person to have around
109. 3:22the place. Like I would have felt like
110. 3:23we we would a good setup there with uh
111. 3:26Kier McKver and Colin Gilligan Bug
112. 3:30Dennis you know Kier McKenna like Julian
113. 3:32we had a really good group and like it
114. 3:34was good crack. The only thing he always
115. 3:35sort of said was that like um he put on
116. 3:38a bit three stone on it like management
117. 3:40meetings all bring in biscuits and cake
118. 3:41cuz they know why I love sugar. I think
119. 3:43I'm a we bit softer but like you know um
120. 3:46so Dan reckon he put on a bit but three
121. 3:48stone in the the the four or five years
122. 3:49he was coming up the road. No, he was he
123. 3:52was a brilliant character. He was like
124. 3:53in his coaching abilities top class.
125. 3:55brings a different perspective to us and
126. 3:57uh I I do think like half what he brings
127. 4:00is his character and his ability to to
128. 4:02sort of mingle in and you the first you
129. 4:04had a tough opening week with us like
130. 4:06but
131. 4:07>> Oh yeah.
132. 4:08>> Yeah. Like um just sort of an acquired
133. 4:10taste. So on one of the nights we were
134. 4:13training like one of the things
135. 4:14happened. It was a bit of backwards and
136. 4:15forwards and we were biting a bit at
137. 4:16each other and it was probably the first
138. 4:18time he'd seen that outside of football
139. 4:20like you know cuz as you seen a of
140. 4:23strong opinion so you have to be able to
141. 4:24argue your point and Ken just wasn't
142. 4:26used to that like in his first time. So
143. 4:28but he rang Brookie on the way down the
144. 4:30road and he says [ __ ] me. He says like
145. 4:32McKini is going to get rid of me here.
146. 4:33He think I'm going to jump in the lake.
147. 4:35So we keep rang me and he goes ring that
148. 4:38bell. He's just not used to you. So I
149. 4:39rang him and I says you're all right. He
150. 4:40says, "Ah, listen. I'm sorry about
151. 4:41that." I go, "Sorry, but what?" I just
152. 4:43to say, "That's what you're there for."
153. 4:45He says, "If I wanted people to say
154. 4:46yes," I said, "Just keep myself here."
155. 4:48Like, so that's all right. He says,
156. 4:50"Yeah, that's what you're here for." Oh,
157. 4:52great. So, [laughter]
158. 4:55[gasps] so like he he stuck to his word
159. 4:57in plenty of arguments over the years
160. 4:58like, but uh no, I was say it was it was
161. 5:01a rough week.
162. 5:01>> You never had the brain wave of using
163. 5:03him as a water boy.
164. 5:05>> In what regard now? Like as in
165. 5:07>> Well, he's the official water boy now,
166. 5:08isn't he? Technically speaking. Oh, is
167. 5:11that is that a bad one? Like I like
168. 5:12listen Ken can be heard. That's another
169. 5:15thing. Like when he's on the sideline,
170. 5:16he can um like he
171. 5:17>> But it's effective.
172. 5:18>> Yeah. Listen, there's so many rules
173. 5:20around the stuff when you do in the
174. 5:22sideline. We can't see the stuff on the
175. 5:23bloody pitch, but we can see when the
176. 5:25manager steps over that bloody box. Like
177. 5:26what is the in my life? Three edges over
178. 5:28the box. Hey, you're not allowed outside
179. 5:30that. What's the bridge? You know, so
180. 5:33it's [laughter]
181. 5:37or square ball is it? [laughter]
182. 5:41So like honestly people have no idea the
183. 5:44amount of arguments get in on the
184. 5:45sideline and it has nothing to do with
185. 5:47the game you know like you know like
186. 5:50what boys can't have earpieces in like
187. 5:52cuz be sending really secret messages to
188. 5:54the players like telling them how to
189. 5:55play you know like the coach behind you
190. 5:57has to sit down cuz he can't talk to you
191. 6:00either and just so many different rules
192. 6:02like that doesn't seem really that sort
193. 6:04of important like to what's going on in
194. 6:06the pitch. What do you think his actual
195. 6:08contribution is to Kerry this year?
196. 6:10Because people jump to the conclusion
197. 6:11that because he was a player who got on
198. 6:13the end of direct ball, he would be
199. 6:15encouraging that as a coach. Is is that
200. 6:17the truth or what's he actually
201. 6:18bringing?
202. 6:19>> Much more like the coaching has changed
203. 6:21dramatically, you know, in terms of what
204. 6:23you do. It's it's more about the
205. 6:24management skills like and that's
206. 6:26probably where he's at his best. Um, but
207. 6:29Kane's not afraid to call stuff out like
208. 6:30he he sees things. He's very meticulous
209. 6:32in his video work. um you know like
210. 6:36there's no parts of it now that like I
211. 6:38don't think coaches really aren't up to
212. 6:40speed in like everything that he would
213. 6:41see like on his huddle like he'd be
214. 6:43transferring it to the players who' be
215. 6:44calling players out for watching this uh
216. 6:46like where they stand like on the press
217. 6:48what they're doing when they give the
218. 6:49ball like getting the ball inside like
219. 6:51is is an easy thing to do like if you
220. 6:54have somebody can win it. It's like the
221. 6:5695 other things that like he would be
222. 6:58watching out for as well. So he's
223. 6:59meticulous in what he does and he puts a
224. 7:01[snorts] lot of effort into it. Like you
225. 7:03know the coaching nowadays like the
226. 7:05amount of hours those fellas put into
227. 7:06video work even when they get a tag like
228. 7:08it's phenomenal. Like I would imagine
229. 7:10most like know most coaches are like s
230. 7:13hitting probably 15 16 hours a week
231. 7:16video work like because they keep going
232. 7:17over it like in the be with the players
233. 7:19doing all that sort of stuff.
234. 7:21>> It would that be year specification or
235. 7:24would other counties generally have a
236. 7:25somebody who would go through all the
237. 7:26video work? you like to do it yourselves
238. 7:28like
239. 7:28>> yeah the tagging part's the easy part
240. 7:29like it's then like it's you
241. 7:31transferring that to the players like
242. 7:32you don't even maybe have two 15 two 20
243. 7:34minute sessions maybe a video probably a
244. 7:36week with the players but there'll be a
245. 7:37lot of individual stuff and coaches you
246. 7:40have to give them the space to go and do
247. 7:41their own thing as well
248. 7:43>> Patty that that point on regenerating a
249. 7:45backroom team is such an interesting one
250. 7:48like Jack Oconor last year brought in
251. 7:50Keen O'Neal and then he added Kieran
252. 7:51Donahe this year it's slightly
253. 7:53reminiscent of the the dubs in 2023 in
254. 7:55terms of bringing Gil Roy back into the
255. 7:57mix and and that had as much of an
256. 7:59impact on the pitch as some of the
257. 8:00players coming back in 23 as well.
258. 8:02>> Yeah, I think any group you need to have
259. 8:05a freshness and an edge to it as well.
260. 8:07Particularly if a team has been it work
261. 8:10both ways, but a team has been
262. 8:11successful, you need to find a way to
263. 8:14and particularly in that Dublin group
264. 8:16where guys won five, six, seven, all
265. 8:18Ireland
266. 8:19winning an eight even though it might
267. 8:21sound mightn't rock their boat as much.
268. 8:23You need something else to kind of go
269. 8:24well why are we doing this? cuz it to
270. 8:26reach the the top of the mountain, you
271. 8:28have to sacrifice everything. You know,
272. 8:30it has to be your be all and end all and
273. 8:32that mental side of freshness and that
274. 8:34edge that you need to have. It might be
275. 8:36new players. It might be younger players
276. 8:37coming in and all of a sudden the the
277. 8:40sacred kills who've been guaranteed
278. 8:41starters, they're under pressure and
279. 8:43that brings an extra training or it
280. 8:44might be in the back room team and we've
281. 8:45seen it with Kerry, someone like Donnie
282. 8:47and his personality that just gives a
283. 8:50little boost to everyone and the
284. 8:52margins, believe it or not, between the
285. 8:54the top teams at this level. There's not
286. 8:56a whole pile between. They're usually
287. 8:57going to be pretty fit as Kieran has
288. 8:59said, like a lot of the tactical work is
289. 9:01going to be done, the video analysis,
290. 9:03all that type of thing. It might just be
291. 9:04that little bit of freshness that keeps
292. 9:08things creates that little bit of edge
293. 9:10that something different. And someone
294. 9:12like Giller for Dublin in 2023, anyone
295. 9:14who knows him, his personality um
296. 9:19Mindon I was beginning about like he'd
297. 9:21pull no punches like and he would he
298. 9:23would have made it his business to go
299. 9:24after the so-called stars of that team
300. 9:26as well and really like are you happy
301. 9:29enough with what you've won to date
302. 9:30because I wouldn't be that type of
303. 9:32thing. Um, and
304. 9:33>> does that still work? You know, Kieran's
305. 9:35talking about the 90s there's doing
306. 9:37that.
307. 9:37>> Well, you seen Michael Jordan, you know,
308. 9:39I took that personally. You can't all
309. 9:41the
310. 9:43uh sports science and Caroline Curr last
311. 9:46week and a lot of credit with with the
312. 9:48the Limick hurlers and things like that.
313. 9:49All the advancements in nutrition and
314. 9:52training and all that type of thing.
315. 9:54It's hard to just beat an ill chip on
316. 9:56the shoulder. No matter how what level
317. 9:58of sport you're in or how talented a
318. 10:00player might be, there's no harm in
319. 10:02giving someone a little kick in the hole
320. 10:03and saying, "Well, they're actually not
321. 10:04that good." It makes such a huge
322. 10:06difference. And maybe Andy Morton might
323. 10:09be dipping into that side of things as
324. 10:11well on Sunday going, "These lads, no
325. 10:13one [ __ ] thinks you're going to win
326. 10:14this thing. Everyone thinks Kerry are
327. 10:15better than you." Like, we're all human.
328. 10:17like that is someone tells you you can't
329. 10:19do something if you're an elite sports
330. 10:22person which these guys are and which
331. 10:23that Dublin team in 2023 was like that's
332. 10:26a red rag to a bull. So it can't be the
333. 10:29only thing you can't just rely on it
334. 10:31might get you over the line once or
335. 10:32twice but you can't have consistent
336. 10:34success by just everyone thinking I'm
337. 10:36going to prove people wrong but it is a
338. 10:38powerful tool that freshness and that
339. 10:40edge and yeah we'll see on Sunday maybe
340. 10:42that's being used in down in Castlebar.
341. 10:45I think that was a good thing that Kerry
342. 10:46did this year. Obviously, there's no
343. 10:48transfer market with players or, you
344. 10:50know, it's hard to freshen up the squad
345. 10:53and get new energy into to a team unless
346. 10:56obviously with the 20s coming in is is
347. 10:59something, but they're still maybe a
348. 11:00year or two off. But Kerry brought
349. 11:02Donnie in straight away and he was by
350. 11:05far the best teammate that I ever had.
351. 11:08And I could see what he could give to a
352. 11:11team because he's positive, he's
353. 11:13energetic. if you were if you were maybe
354. 11:16dropped or pushed aside, he'd somehow
355. 11:18spin it positively and make you still
356. 11:20feel good about your role. And I I think
357. 11:24that was a very powerful addition by by
358. 11:26Kerry to get him in just for that fresh
359. 11:28voice.
360. 11:29>> When did when did Carie come into the
361. 11:31setup?
362. 11:32>> Huh?
363. 11:32>> When did when did they get the
364. 11:33reflection? [laughter]
365. 11:36>> The year after Goff went in with G, I
366. 11:37think. Oh.
367. 11:42>> [applause]
368. 11:45>> Guys, you're going to have to tell me
369. 11:46the secret about getting referees on
370. 11:48your side. [laughter]
371. 11:51>> What about umpires? Huh?
372. 11:56>> Am I joking? Uh the um the the point on
373. 12:00Donahe like you were talking about the
374. 12:02fact that you know you put a rocket up a
375. 12:04lad the the threat of losing their place
376. 12:06and all that is is an important one but
377. 12:07but it feels that maybe Kerry might be
378. 12:10motivating themselves with the positive
379. 12:11angle of potentially going back to back
380. 12:13this year. James I'm not sure if the
381. 12:14stick has been used too much. It's more
382. 12:16of a a carrot situation this year.
383. 12:17>> No I I I do think the backto-back thing
384. 12:20is really really powerful. Um I remember
385. 12:23in in 15 we got back to the final and I
386. 12:27it's like a validation he obviously got
387. 12:29back to the back to final as well. It's
388. 12:30like a validation of a really brilliant
389. 12:32team if you were to go back to back. We
390. 12:34obviously didn't but like it's such a
391. 12:37rubber stamp of being a great team if
392. 12:39you do manage to go back to back. I
393. 12:40think it's an incredible achievement. Um
394. 12:42because obviously there's so much
395. 12:45hysteria and you know pats on the back
396. 12:47and Jesus he won it whatever to come
397. 12:49back again straight away and do it again
398. 12:51is a great sign of a team. So I think
399. 12:53they have tapped into that. Um and I
400. 12:55think that Jack the fact that Jack never
401. 12:57did it even though he had a couple of
402. 12:59great teams in the naughties. I think
403. 13:00that was is a big motivating factor for
404. 13:02him.
405. 13:02>> Kieran you real stats earlier about how
406. 13:05many all Irelands Dublin and Kerry have
407. 13:06won in history and and it is stark. Does
408. 13:09it great on you that you didn't go back
409. 13:10to back as a player and as a manager?
410. 13:13>> Yeah. Yeah, it does. Like and that's I
411. 13:16think that's the secret in Kerry like
412. 13:18you know like I look at Paul Guiny this
413. 13:20year with 36 coming
414. 13:21>> 36
415. 13:22>> taped together like and he's coming back
416. 13:23looking for a fourth
417. 13:25>> car are obsessed about the next one the
418. 13:26next one like it becomes a part of their
419. 13:28psyche you know even like in joking you
420. 13:31know like you're in the company like and
421. 13:33so I remember being watching one of the
422. 13:34the club games with D bomber was there
423. 13:37and a few other boys and the slagging
424. 13:39was going like where you could sit in
425. 13:40the steps like cuz know if you nine
426. 13:41others you could sit up here and if you
427. 13:42had four you could sit down there and I
428. 13:44said like it is a big thing like it's so
429. 13:47when you have your superstars that
430. 13:49aren't happy with three and four like
431. 13:51whereas you know like myself were
432. 13:54talking there know small county syndrome
433. 13:55and like even talking like that like and
434. 13:57that doesn't exist in those counties
435. 14:00like they want four they want five and I
436. 14:02know people here would find this hard to
437. 14:04believe but most players don't want to
438. 14:06win
439. 14:08they would like to win
440. 14:09>> what you mean
441. 14:11>> wanting to win means everything goes in
442. 14:14the line.
443. 14:16There is no they fans or buts. Like you
444. 14:18make decisions solely to get that. And I
445. 14:21see that with different players and I
446. 14:23can see it like cuz it's like sort of
447. 14:24saying like everybody that turns up to
448. 14:26work wants to do a good job. Like
449. 14:29[laughter]
450. 14:31>> I think the room has answered you there.
451. 14:33Yeah.
452. 14:33>> Yeah. So it's the same sort of thing
453. 14:35like you know people are very good at
454. 14:36what they do. They wouldn't get the job
455. 14:37otherwise. That's the same in sport like
456. 14:39and you know what I know people will
457. 14:41push back and say of course they do but
458. 14:43like once a funny thing like it's you
459. 14:46make decisions like it it eats at you
460. 14:48like it's you know when you have that
461. 14:50type of talent and you're still coming
462. 14:51back at 36 and like you're broke like in
463. 14:54terms of physically like with Paul like
464. 14:56has been like even for his club all year
465. 14:57like to me that sends a message that you
466. 15:00just you can't you can't see anything
467. 15:03stronger than that like you cannot you
468. 15:05can't put that into words. Tommy Tommy
469. 15:08reckons an all-star nomination is
470. 15:09winning.
471. 15:10>> What?
472. 15:11>> Tommy reckons once you get an All-Star
473. 15:12nomination, you've won. He's been on
474. 15:14about Allstar nominations all year and
475. 15:16last year with me. [laughter] But there
476. 15:18is there is I'm just I'm going to let
477. 15:19that one go cuz there is a
478. 15:23there there is a psychological thing
479. 15:25with Kerry, too. And and it's not just
480. 15:27the numbers, James. Like I love the
481. 15:30story you tell of Johnny Cardy. He's a
482. 15:33Legion club man, a legend who who's
483. 15:34passed away recently. and I carry great
484. 15:36back in the day, but when you were a
485. 15:38young fellow breaking into that Kerry
486. 15:39team
487. 15:40like can you tell it because I don't
488. 15:42know if you actually said it publicly. I
489. 15:44know you said it one or two shows you've
490. 15:45done elsewhere.
491. 15:46>> Um well yeah Johnny Culty was obviously
492. 15:49a legion a legion hero and a Kerry hero
493. 15:51played in goals um played corner forward
494. 15:54before that and managed Kerry um and he
495. 15:58was our club so he was massive and I got
496. 16:01on to the the Kerry panel because of
497. 16:03him. He just said, "Will he take this
498. 16:05fell in?" basically to Jack Oconor
499. 16:07because he had Jack O'Connor's ear.
500. 16:08>> Not so sure. You just
501. 16:10>> I promise you that was actually how it
502. 16:11went. And uh I was in there for a while
503. 16:14and I wasn't making any inroads. And he
504. 16:16goes, "Uh,
505. 16:17>> sure. Who who who's a helio? Who's a
506. 16:19helio?"
507. 16:20>> And I said, "Gu, Don, Darren Sullivan,
508. 16:24Declan Sullivan, and Donica Walsh."
509. 16:26>> Galvin
510. 16:27>> Galvin. And he goes, "Right, you're
511. 16:30better than all them."
512. 16:31>> [laughter]
513. 16:32>> I was about half a stone overweight and
514. 16:34just absolutely diabolical at the time.
515. 16:36But like he just gave you that he gave
516. 16:38you that confidence and then like I was
517. 16:40so young and impressionable that not
518. 16:42that I believe that at all but it was
519. 16:45like someone maybe does think I'm
520. 16:47actually decent and even those few words
521. 16:49actually do make make a lot. But Don is
522. 16:52a really really similar character.
523. 16:54Honestly, if he said something to you
524. 16:56that that lifted you up a bit, you you'd
525. 16:58kind of believe it. Even if it was only
526. 17:00>> Fugazi or it was to suit him.
527. 17:02>> They actually have a word for Carrie.
528. 17:04Like
529. 17:04>> that was what
530. 17:05>> have a word for that. Go on.
531. 17:06>> Like it's plumbing. Like I learned that.
532. 17:08So it is like they actually have a word
533. 17:09for butter and yappa and make you feel
534. 17:11better than you should do. Like
535. 17:13>> that they're that good at it. Like
536. 17:14[laughter]
537. 17:15>> nobody ever feels bad and Curry were
538. 17:17just plumsing each other constantly.
539. 17:18Constantly one one up on each other. But
540. 17:21when I look at David and you mentioned
541. 17:23David Clifford earlier on and his best
542. 17:25quality Kieran and I just look at
543. 17:28Clifford now and whatever about what
544. 17:30happens on the pitch and and the things
545. 17:32he's doing are incredible and maybe we
546. 17:33underestimate them
547. 17:34>> but he understands the power of what
548. 17:36he's doing too. The way he celebrates
549. 17:38the way he doesn't let him even if he
550. 17:40takes the worst penalty of all time that
551. 17:41gets 10 million views on Twitter because
552. 17:43soccer took it over. He celebrates that
553. 17:46>> bloody goal as if he had scored a
554. 17:48worldy. Well, I I think that is
555. 17:50intentional.
556. 17:51>> The he his leadership role
557. 17:54>> even last season. Remember they were
558. 17:55being well written off after that famous
559. 17:57me victory. Tommy, which you dined out
560. 17:59on,
561. 18:00>> but after they beat Calvin,
562. 18:02>> stand over what I said.
563. 18:03>> They were playing the lads in the
564. 18:04quarterfinal and everyone was tipping
565. 18:05our mad around like the OAS were tipping
566. 18:07our M at that time. Um and he called out
567. 18:10the Kerry supporters. you know, if
568. 18:11you're he's not the oldest guy in the
569. 18:13team, but he's the most influential. And
570. 18:15even for someone like Guini looking at
571. 18:16him, he is the leader of that team and
572. 18:19his when he's fronting up and against
573. 18:21Dublin the other day and the Dublin
574. 18:23supporters were a bit pissed off that he
575. 18:24was maybe giving it the big one, but
576. 18:26that's intentional as well. It was like
577. 18:28I'm going to take this on my back and
578. 18:29the best players technically he's
579. 18:31incredible as we've alluded to.
580. 18:34Physically, he's a beast as well. you
581. 18:36know, he can take it both ways, but he's
582. 18:40he's shown I'm going to take this all at
583. 18:42on my stride. Like
584. 18:43>> he's going to leave in front. So that's
585. 18:45the celebration thing is
586. 18:46>> how do you make him uncomfortable?
587. 18:48>> I think every team has has played like
588. 18:50maybe not you know to the same degree
589. 18:52because they won't be noticed but like
590. 18:53everybody needs those people to stand up
591. 18:55and and push like like you know the like
592. 18:58every team has their shepherds the ones
593. 19:00that drive. We were lucky like we had
594. 19:01Aiden Fork and Rory Grugan and Steven
595. 19:03Sheron at the time and then like some of
596. 19:04the younger fellas but now the new
597. 19:06generation like you're trying to get
598. 19:07them in the same way but like David has
599. 19:11like I I've never you know been in like
600. 19:14from a coaching capacity but you can see
601. 19:16his one but Michael Murphy you see
602. 19:17players Conor Kalin has it like you know
603. 19:19you see them like James Mccarthy had it
604. 19:21like you know you see those players that
605. 19:23like they just they take the game and
606. 19:25they drive like they they take their
607. 19:27team over the line. Paul Flynn like you
608. 19:29go through all of the great teams like
609. 19:31to have them Galvin was the same like
610. 19:32you know like they impose their will on
611. 19:35the game like and it's it's a powerful
612. 19:38>> it it gives huge confidence the rest of
613. 19:40>> as a player
614. 19:41>> to the other like with Dylan Gany as
615. 19:43brilliant as a player would he be having
616. 19:44the season he has if he hasn't got clear
617. 19:46for him not to be Dylan Gene is a
618. 19:48brilliant player but it
619. 19:51>> it gives confidence to your teammates
620. 19:52and the best players make their team
621. 19:54>> I don't know who does it for me like
622. 19:56he's half a size
623. 19:58>> like But he he wants the ball. Like you
624. 19:59don't see him shying away.
625. 20:01>> Yeah.
626. 20:01>> You know, like you looked at the first
627. 20:02goal he hit against Loud like you know
628. 20:04he didn't fest the point. [laughter]
629. 20:06>> But hey, what that we forget there's an
630. 20:09unbelievable there's a great kick pass,
631. 20:10unbelievable flick by Kobe, but the
632. 20:12finish is texture legs. Yeah, it's very
633. 20:14>> but what I'm saying is like they're the
634. 20:15sorts of players, you know, like they
635. 20:17can and they come like in all different
636. 20:19positions like on the pitch,
637. 20:21>> but they're the players that I like cuz
638. 20:23doesn't matter when it is, they just
639. 20:24continue to impose their will on the
640. 20:26game. I'm glad you brought up Mayo
641. 20:28because we've done a lot of talking
642. 20:29about Kerry tonight on
643. 20:30>> Yeah. Like loads of Mayo jerseys in the
644. 20:32crowd. How many Mayo people did we even
645. 20:34ask to be on the show, Tommy?
646. 20:35>> Oh, we asked Kieran McDonald.
647. 20:38>> Said no.
648. 20:40>> We asked Mickey Conroy. He's playing
649. 20:42golf. [laughter]
650. 20:43>> We asked James Horn.
651. 20:45>> James Horn, what did he say?
652. 20:46>> Didn't get back.
653. 20:47>> Didn't get back.
654. 20:50>> One of sent off and I think if anyone is
655. 20:52a follower of John Cena or it was a
656. 20:54close hanger from Waggara. Um,
657. 20:56absolutely actors, man.
658. 20:58>> I'm going to lose all my life.
659. 20:59>> Oh my god.
660. 21:02[laughter]
661. 21:03I die happy, man.
662. 21:05>> Who let David Brady in? That's David
663. 21:07Brady's music.
664. 21:09>> Say it. Steven Rogers has never spoken
665. 21:10to me in his life.
666. 21:13[laughter]
667. 21:17>> Oh, look at this.
668. 21:22[laughter]
669. 21:23>> David, how's it going?
670. 21:26Now he
671. 21:28>> put on his mic. [laughter] If If you
672. 21:30want to box, say you want to box.
673. 21:36>> If you want to do punditry, say you want
674. 21:37to do punditry. [laughter]
675. 21:40>> David,
676. 21:40>> I'm there for the last 55 minutes.
677. 21:42Listen to the greatest load of
678. 21:46one-sided. Hi Mike. Mike Frank Ros of
679. 21:50bone to pick with Dubai. [laughter]
680. 21:54>> You never text me back. [laughter]
681. 21:57Anyway,
682. 21:59Jesus, boys.
683. 22:02>> Oh, that's [laughter]
684. 22:03the car is a different story.
685. 22:06>> Do Do you remember that, Kieran?
686. 22:08>> Well, we road throwing coppers and he
687. 22:09lost the car. He couldn't find it for
688. 22:10two days after.
689. 22:11>> I remember that night. All [laughter]
690. 22:12right,
691. 22:12>> that can happen.
692. 22:13>> I I found it, but I just forgot where I
693. 22:15parked it.
694. 22:16>> Hop hop up on up on stage there, DB. Uh,
695. 22:18question for you.
696. 22:20>> Go on.
697. 22:20>> May our courier are playing Mongolia on
698. 22:22Sunday. Is it?
699. 22:23>> That's it. [laughter]
700. 22:26>> Jesus, boys.
701. 22:28>> Get up here. Go, man.
702. 22:29>> Have we Oh, we have Jesus. We have a
703. 22:32lot.
704. 22:33>> Can we get a big cheer for David Brady,
705. 22:34please? [cheering and applause]
706. 22:38Good.
707. 22:40[applause]
708. 22:41>> David, what's story? Good to see you.
709. 22:44>> All right.
710. 22:44>> All good. Yourself?
711. 22:45>> Good to see you.
712. 22:47>> How are you?
713. 22:48Sit down now. I was wor jacket.
714. 22:50[laughter]
715. 22:51>> Where'd you get that jacket? Walk it
716. 22:52down.
717. 22:53>> This is This is a Louis Copeland special
718. 22:56jacket that I never seen in my life and
719. 22:58that man handed to me. What's your name?
720. 23:00[laughter]
721. 23:02>> Ah, County Mayor
722. 23:05County Mayor
723. 23:07by Jay's. You know what?
724. 23:09>> That's some jacket.
725. 23:10>> It's class.
726. 23:11>> Sheen was it or was it T- move
727. 23:15up the office? Huh?
728. 23:17>> [laughter]
729. 23:18>> Can I ask a question?
730. 23:19>> Yeah.
731. 23:21>> Does anyone of you think we're going to
732. 23:23win?
733. 23:27>> Have to give it back to him. [laughter]
734. 23:29Come on.
735. 23:30>> Well, I'll put it to you this way,
736. 23:32David. When Andy Mour asked the room of
737. 23:35journalists, "Do any one of you think
738. 23:37we'll beat Kerry or Dublin in the
739. 23:39final?" There was one journalist who
740. 23:40actually put his head above the carpet
741. 23:42and said, "No." Like actually spoke for
742. 23:44the whole room and said no. So that does
743. 23:45seem to be representative of the whole
744. 23:46country.
745. 23:46>> Wasn't me.
746. 23:47>> Perfect for Mayo. No,
747. 23:48>> I I reckon they need to lose one to win
748. 23:50one.
749. 23:53[laughter]
750. 23:55>> We've dined out on that.
751. 23:57>> Hey, Mike Frank, let me tell you this
752. 23:59now. [laughter]
753. 24:03>> Where did you come out with that one?
754. 24:05>> Wait.
755. 24:06>> Win one to lose one or lose one to win
756. 24:08one.
757. 24:08>> Yeah. You've never won it on Ireland
758. 24:10when your your captain didn't start.
759. 24:13Oh, we're getting the pitch hogs here,
760. 24:16are we?
761. 24:16>> Well, we have to grasp on something to
762. 24:18be honest.
763. 24:18>> Well, [laughter]
764. 24:20to be fair, they have. No, that that's
765. 24:21actually a fact that Kerry haven't won
766. 24:23either with
767. 24:24>> number 13 as captain in a long time.
768. 24:26>> Yeah.
769. 24:26>> And Clifford's changed to 14 again.
770. 24:28>> Hold on. Paul Gayy told us last week
771. 24:30that he's fit and he's ready to start.
772. 24:32>> Yeah, he is.
773. 24:33>> He's wearing 21 or something like that.
774. 24:35>> Is he?
775. 24:35>> The team's out and Clifford's wearing
776. 24:3714.
777. 24:38>> Yeah.
778. 24:38>> So, they change it. They Clifford wear
779. 24:4013.
780. 24:41>> Yeah. And they say Mayo are cursed.
781. 24:44[laughter]
782. 24:46>> David, is there genuine belief in Mayo
783. 24:48this week that that it's actually going
784. 24:50to happen this Sunday?
785. 24:52>> No, [laughter]
786. 24:54but but
787. 24:57let me tell you the belief is and the
788. 24:59guys will need a performance of a
789. 25:01lifetime. Um but you it's 89 days and it
790. 25:06was it was a hard Monday morning let me
791. 25:08tell you after we got bet after Russ
792. 25:09common
793. 25:11>> [clears throat]
794. 25:11>> And
795. 25:13it for me and Karen, you know more than
796. 25:15anyone in this room, it's about your
797. 25:18timing. It's about getting a collective
798. 25:22squad right that we we've seen the
799. 25:24timing has gone wrong for some teams.
800. 25:26>> Some teams that were guaranteed to be in
801. 25:29the allre final. I think the timing from
802. 25:33a Mio collective, SNC, trainers,
803. 25:36management, they've got it right. Now
804. 25:38the we've made mistakes but I think I
805. 25:42have never and I have always said it. I
806. 25:44have never gone into an honor final and
807. 25:47I have played in five or six. I've never
808. 25:50gone into a final
809. 25:52with three
810. 25:54absolutely top class forwards and no one
811. 25:58in this room can say they're not. No
812. 26:00one. And they don't give a [ __ ] They're
813. 26:04playing and credit to Andy. Absolutely.
814. 26:07Now I give him credit but I go I'll be
815. 26:10hardening him like this young fell Darra
816. 26:12Burn trust me he's one of the finest
817. 26:15footballers and he's been finest
818. 26:17footballers he didn't play a millisecond
819. 26:18against Russ common not a millisecond
820. 26:21>> was that not the 20s around the corner
821. 26:23no
822. 26:23>> no that wasn't the agreement um
823. 26:26>> who ripped the agreement
824. 26:28>> I did [laughter]
825. 26:30I didn't get the job in the first place
826. 26:32but no Darra Burn and again you're not
827. 26:35going to hold back a young fellow that
828. 26:36per from performing in a conic
829. 26:38semi-final just because you have a 20's
830. 26:41game on the Wednesday.
831. 26:42But we've unfortunately unfortunately in
832. 26:46every final we've been in and I'm being
833. 26:48disrespectful
834. 26:49maybe to a lot of
835. 26:52we've always relied on one
836. 26:55>> one Killian one Kieran Mack
837. 26:59you know we one Andy but now we have and
838. 27:03they are Rhino Dunn who's in in pole
839. 27:06position now a lot of m players have
840. 27:08been in pole positions coming into all
841. 27:10finals looking for player of of the year
842. 27:12and the hard all-star if you know what I
843. 27:14mean. But I do think that Joe Devie
844. 27:17that's that just go at it express
845. 27:20yourself and the new rules um has has
846. 27:23really given us something that we've
847. 27:25never had before in an Ireland final.
848. 27:28Do you agree Mike Frank?
849. 27:34>> I do. I do. [laughter]
850. 27:36That's a compliment. So I'll take that.
851. 27:38Uh, I do. The only thing I always
852. 27:42compare
853. 27:44the Mayo team now to the brilliant Mayo
854. 27:47team with Keegan and Higgins and Boil
855. 27:49and the boys breaking up from the back.
856. 27:52Like I I always felt that was pure Mayo
857. 27:54football where there was threats from
858. 27:56everywhere and Higgins would go from
859. 27:58cornerback. Keegan would he kick one two
860. 28:01whereas the only reservation I would
861. 28:04have about Mayo at the moment is that
862. 28:05they're very reliant on the three boys
863. 28:08mostly Ryan obviously and then Kobe and
864. 28:10Burn. Three super players. Honestly, I
865. 28:13love watching Kobe and Burn especially
866. 28:15uh being so young. But their threats
867. 28:17don't necessarily come from all angles
868. 28:19of the field like other top teams like
869. 28:21the Arma wing backs McQuillin and
870. 28:23Charlie Og Kerry's halfback line with
871. 28:25Gavin White and Brien Begley. Like I
872. 28:29think that if you put some of those
873. 28:31attacking halfback threats into this
874. 28:33Mayo team,
875. 28:34>> they'd be a a big step above where they
876. 28:37are at the moment.
877. 28:37>> Kieran, I'd asked you back in February
878. 28:39when I think Mayo got away with maybe
879. 28:41beating you in the league. I think there
880. 28:42was a big win that day and they just
881. 28:43about held you off. I asked you, had the
882. 28:45Mayo we saw under Kevin McDeade last
883. 28:47year to the Mayo you saw this year under
884. 28:49anymore changed and you just said no.
885. 28:52>> No, but they
886. 28:53>> have they changed though. Have they is
887. 28:55there is there [snorts] a difference in
888. 28:56Mayo this year?
889. 28:57>> Well, there's a couple of new players in
890. 28:58since that like on the 20s. Um so
891. 29:01[cough and clears throat] and the
892. 29:02younger players all like they've done
893. 29:04the same to us like like younger players
894. 29:05will rejuvenate the team.
895. 29:07>> Um
896. 29:09it's hard to really say. I do think they
897. 29:11have a chance but Kerry always seemed to
898. 29:14raise their game for Mio because I don't
899. 29:16think Kerry had been firing in all
900. 29:18cylinders. David has been playing
901. 29:19exceptionally well in some of the games.
902. 29:20I thought they played well against us
903. 29:22like Cork, you know, like I'd say the
904. 29:24last couple of minutes give them a tough
905. 29:25game. Throw did Dublin. It's very
906. 29:27unusual for Kerry to go into an all
907. 29:29final not firing on all cylinders. But
908. 29:33[clears throat] you know, I suppose the
909. 29:35big thing is is the amount of forwards
910. 29:37they have like know nearly always
911. 29:40marking the fourth worst defender and
912. 29:42he's not a player you want having the
913. 29:43fourth worst defender on you know
914. 29:45because they're marking Dylan you know
915. 29:47marking David like so you have all of
916. 29:49those things and like this year Sean
917. 29:51Yoshi hasn't kicked in like he's had a
918. 29:52long injury as well.
919. 29:54>> Yeah was even mentioned him tonight like
920. 29:56he's capable of putting up like seven or
921. 29:57eight points very easily.
922. 29:58>> What did he kick on you last year? Did
923. 30:00he kick 11 or 12?
924. 30:01>> 12. Well,
925. 30:02>> so it's but that's that's
926. 30:04>> he for worst defender on Py Clifford. He
927. 30:06put your second.
928. 30:06>> Yeah, but that's that's the reality
929. 30:08because
930. 30:10>> Kerry play that type of football like
931. 30:11like it's a big thing in Kerry to be
932. 30:13able to score that. That's they put a
933. 30:15lot of emphasis on that there like where
934. 30:16other maybe counties don't which is
935. 30:18unusual like you might add but they can
936. 30:21score like their six forwards are all
937. 30:23capable of winning games. So, it's going
938. 30:25to be tight, but I'm hoping that Mio
939. 30:27will just throw sort of caution to the
940. 30:29win and not try to contain Kerry just to
941. 30:31try and score them because as I said, I
942. 30:32do believe that nearly every team will
943. 30:34score 18 or 19 points in a game
944. 30:36regardless of how they're playing. And
945. 30:38what they then have to do is to manage
946. 30:39to get that five or six extra points to
947. 30:42stay in the game to be carry. So, um I
948. 30:45do think they have a chance, but then
949. 30:47knowing my luck, they're going to be out
950. 30:49by 20 minutes. So,
951. 30:54>> [laughter]
952. 30:56>> Go on.
953. 30:58>> You're right. But [laughter]
954. 31:01let me tell you, and it is Karen, the
955. 31:03first 10 minutes
956. 31:05now, you're ne and you never tell a
957. 31:08team, but you may need to take from the
958. 31:11very first second, that 10-minute period
959. 31:15is, and we've seen it last year in the
960. 31:16All Ireland final, seven points up in 11
961. 31:19minutes. M
962. 31:20>> K do put a lot of emphasis on that. I
963. 31:22don't know.
964. 31:22>> Massive.
965. 31:23>> From you being in the change rooms, is
966. 31:24it something you do on purpose, you
967. 31:28know, like at the at the start of a game
968. 31:29like you like
969. 31:31>> go after it or
970. 31:34>> I suppose depending on depending on the
971. 31:35opport going like this and rocking in
972. 31:38the chair, he's
973. 31:39>> he's about to tell a lie.
974. 31:40>> Yeah. [laughter]
975. 31:42>> Now, James, and I love the podcast. When
976. 31:45you're on the chair rocking [laughter]
977. 31:48>> and Patty is Yeah. Go on.
978. 31:49>> We we we do speak about it. I remember
979. 31:51but actually going back to a Mayo game.
980. 31:53I think it might have been the replay
981. 31:55that we lost.
982. 31:56>> Mayo had a had a thing where they got
983. 31:59really physical with you as the ball was
984. 32:01being thrown in.
985. 32:02>> Yeah.
986. 32:02>> And they wanted to lay down a marker. So
987. 32:05our thing at the time was stand up and
988. 32:08go at them as well. So I remember there
989. 32:10was 30 fellas just well 28
990. 32:12>> that was down clarony was it?
991. 32:13>> No that was in park in semiinal. It was
992. 32:15just like 28 fell on the ground for beat
993. 32:18of them. go on.
994. 32:19>> It was just stand up and and
995. 32:22you know try and match him in terms of
996. 32:24actually on the field then when the ball
997. 32:26>> I was actually sitting in the stand the
998. 32:28same like that [laughter]
999. 32:31>> you started fighting in the stands
1000. 32:33[laughter]
1001. 32:35>> but I think that do you remember Dublin
1002. 32:37used to focus on the championship
1003. 32:39quarter in the the first 15 maybe after
1004. 32:41halftime it's always been a carry thing
1005. 32:43to maybe go after from the throw in for
1006. 32:45that 15
1007. 32:46>> um
1008. 32:46>> their 15 last year against Dunn ball was
1009. 32:48it was frightening. Gavin Gavin White
1010. 32:50set the tone right from the getgo.
1011. 32:52>> Throw up.
1012. 32:52>> But but Kieran, you you've obviously
1013. 32:54coached against him recently and it was
1014. 32:55a week after Lou.
1015. 32:57>> We watched Potty Clifford that day
1016. 32:58together and it felt like Py
1017. 33:02didn't back himself to go buy a man. He
1018. 33:05he felt like he wasn't ready and I feel
1019. 33:07like some of the Car boys have been like
1020. 33:09that. But Py Clifford is in the groove
1021. 33:10now after the dubs give him the the run
1022. 33:12of Crow Park the last day. Do you think
1023. 33:13Kerry are a little bit off where they
1024. 33:15were last year?
1025. 33:16>> [snorts]
1026. 33:16>> Um,
1027. 33:19probably a wee bit, but I I think you
1028. 33:22know in fairness to Clifford, he's a
1029. 33:24game changer. Like you when you play,
1030. 33:25you score one five and you have a bad
1031. 33:27day, you're told like it is he is one of
1032. 33:30the best players, but the fact his
1033. 33:32physical size is such a a commanding
1034. 33:35factor in in that, you know, you can't
1035. 33:38block him out like you can like other
1036. 33:39sort of corner forwards that tend to be
1037. 33:40smaller. Um, so I think that's probably
1038. 33:43the the biggest differential. David's
1039. 33:46playing extremely well, but I still like
1040. 33:48it's if it was a manager, you'd still be
1041. 33:50worried about like Shaunie coming in
1042. 33:52looking doing his business like your
1043. 33:53body there like the orchestra and
1044. 33:55things. So, like we all play tend to
1045. 33:57play a man-to-man game anyway. You know,
1046. 33:58they bring a lot of energy. They bring a
1047. 34:00lot of physicality to it and
1048. 34:02>> um it's definitely going to be
1049. 34:03interesting to see that. But the first
1050. 34:0520 minutes I always find interesting
1051. 34:07with Kerry, but I think Kerry's biggest
1052. 34:09attribute is that in their golden
1053. 34:11period, their purple patch they score
1054. 34:13more than any other teams. Yeah,
1055. 34:14>> that's their biggest asset because like
1056. 34:16the four game we played them recently
1057. 34:18and [clears throat] I can you could
1058. 34:20argue that like you know the first half
1059. 34:22against them it's the same then like you
1060. 34:24know like for the last 15 minutes maybe
1061. 34:25game was over but same in the
1062. 34:27championship last year they hit a
1063. 34:2815-minute period and they'll score maybe
1064. 34:3012 13 points and that especially with
1065. 34:32the new rules in the space and the
1066. 34:33two-pointers they can generate that type
1067. 34:35of scoring progress because of where
1068. 34:36they can score from. And so that's my
1069. 34:38thing about not trying to contain them.
1070. 34:40You have to try and go after the scores.
1071. 34:41They have to try and stay like they're
1072. 34:43going to score 25 to 27 points. So, you
1073. 34:46have to be within that 22 to 23 points
1074. 34:48to stay in the game, which Theron and
1075. 34:50like Dublin did like was around the 20
1076. 34:52point mark.
1077. 34:53>> We're close.
1078. 34:54>> But but that's the the reality of the
1079. 34:55modern game. Get to that 19 or 20 point
1080. 34:58mark that you have to which you you
1081. 35:00normally will get to. Those five or six
1082. 35:02extra points will keep you in the game
1083. 35:03against Kerry. But if depending like you
1084. 35:06know um James's point about like
1085. 35:09me not adding the same from different
1086. 35:11parts might come to
1087. 35:14haunt them but it's unusual that the two
1088. 35:17teams are the best inside line at
1089. 35:19scoring they have like you know and the
1090. 35:21two of them have got to the champ they
1091. 35:22got to the final like wherever team and
1092. 35:25the Dublin team and stuff like it's it's
1093. 35:26far more spread out so it's funny maybe
1094. 35:28it's going back to the old days where
1095. 35:30the inside line actually are doing most
1096. 35:31of the scoring but this year like the
1097. 35:33two the two teams have had the most most
1098. 35:34of the inside scores getting it in the
1099. 35:37final.
1100. 35:37>> The we spoke about it on the pot earlier
1101. 35:41in the week. The start is important but
1102. 35:43>> I get that there'll be a period in this
1103. 35:46game and this is where maybe loud got
1104. 35:48caught out in the semi-final where Mayo
1105. 35:49get momentum and they bring that furious
1106. 35:52chaos and intensity and Mayo for that
1107. 35:54third quarter were exceptional. It was
1108. 35:55the best 15 20 minutes of football. They
1109. 35:57blew loud away. There's going to be a
1110. 35:59period on Sunday where Kerry are hot and
1111. 36:03that's where you find out if the
1112. 36:05experience of the biggest day for a lot
1113. 36:07of these players in their career. It's
1114. 36:09how can you wrestle back momentum and
1115. 36:11how can you limit the damage of that
1116. 36:12carry team in that 10-minute period and
1117. 36:15you're talking about the championship
1118. 36:16quarter with Dublin. Our biggest thing
1119. 36:18when we were successful is opposition
1120. 36:20kickouts. You get a steal and opposition
1121. 36:22kick out, you go for goal. last resort
1122. 36:24is turning back or passing it off
1123. 36:25because we knew momentum is essential
1124. 36:28and you can kill the game in that period
1125. 36:30and particularly now with the
1126. 36:31two-pointers. I think there'll be a
1127. 36:33period on Sunday. Kerry are too good.
1128. 36:35Even if they're not playing well,
1129. 36:37they'll have a period in this game for
1130. 36:3810, maybe even five minutes where
1131. 36:41they're on top. And I think how Mayo
1132. 36:44manage that momentum and to secure their
1133. 36:46own kick out, slow the game down, create
1134. 36:50us, get the ball into Rhino Dunu's hand
1135. 36:52so you don't let them score four or five
1136. 36:54two-pointers in a row because if they
1137. 36:55don't manage that momentum and the
1138. 36:57occasion gets to the younger players and
1139. 36:59they reinforce mistakes, Kerry can score
1140. 37:01110 in five minutes.
1141. 37:02>> The kickouts is going to be key. K be
1142. 37:04the masters of long kick outs because of
1143. 37:06the size across the back.
1144. 37:07>> Four lands across the top.
1145. 37:08>> So like for me able to be able to smash
1146. 37:10those and get the the scraps off them is
1147. 37:13going to be key. So Pigory they'll come
1148. 37:15into it.
1149. 37:16>> But that's the they're the two boys to
1150. 37:18be fair to Carney and Jordan Flynn.
1151. 37:20>> They need four and then it's it's coming
1152. 37:22under brakes. And the other side of that
1153. 37:24there is that Kerry are the best team at
1154. 37:26not giving scores after kickouts even
1155. 37:29the ones that they lose.
1156. 37:30>> Slow it down. To me, they're the two
1157. 37:32points that like Mayo have to chase down
1158. 37:34because I I do think if they get the
1159. 37:35ball to their inside line, they will get
1160. 37:37scores. But the thing is, if you're
1161. 37:39going to like what are we having now in
1162. 37:41the game, we're averaging if we're
1163. 37:42hitting 25 30 scores, putting six or
1164. 37:44seven wides, you're adding 65 to 70
1165. 37:46kickouts a game. And if you're the best
1166. 37:48at getting those, you're going to get
1167. 37:50more possessions. And so, like, that's
1168. 37:52where Kerry really dominate in those
1169. 37:5450-minute periods against ourselves.
1170. 37:56They they're really able to dominate the
1171. 37:57kick out and keep possession. And like
1172. 38:00when you can compound those points one
1173. 38:03after the other,
1174. 38:05>> it is it is that that kick out and like
1175. 38:08from a retention perspective, Curry have
1176. 38:10been phenomenal.
1177. 38:11>> Keeper has been exceptional this year.
1178. 38:12>> Yeah, Murphy.
1179. 38:13>> Yeah, he's been really really good like
1180. 38:15like not just from a kickout point of
1181. 38:16view like his saves like he pulled off
1182. 38:18like bad he pulled off four unbelievable
1183. 38:20saves against us. So he's, you know, he
1184. 38:23slotted in there and like he's he's
1185. 38:25finding his players like, you know,
1186. 38:26people would have said that he wouldn't
1187. 38:27have went for those short, but he's able
1188. 38:29to mix them as well.
1189. 38:30>> Like Mo tend to go for a lot of long. So
1190. 38:32it's going to be interesting to see like
1191. 38:34who's going to win the scraps on that
1192. 38:35one.
1193. 38:35>> James had mentioned it before the
1194. 38:36semi-finals like the heat is different
1195. 38:38in an allreland final. Surely they can
1196. 38:40spoil a bit like surely they can put a
1197. 38:42bit more extra heat on Shane Murphy. And
1198. 38:44the flip side obviously Young Livingston
1199. 38:45in goals 24 he's not that young but
1200. 38:48first season.
1201. 38:48>> Yeah. And it's it's it's upstairs really
1202. 38:50for from from that perspective like from
1203. 38:54a kick out you know Livingston had
1204. 38:56didn't play against Russ common
1205. 38:58>> you know and now he's
1206. 39:00>> but I wouldn't compare the games because
1207. 39:02sometimes teams can get runny like RC
1208. 39:03common had serious pace this year. Oh,
1209. 39:05massive
1210. 39:06>> curious pace like and they've added like
1211. 39:07a lot of youth in but people are saying
1212. 39:08with this type of space pace is king you
1213. 39:11know and like again Kerry had that sort
1214. 39:13of pace but so do Mayo like you know
1215. 39:15they are missing like you know one or
1216. 39:17two of the older fellas that had that
1217. 39:18pace too but I I think that you know if
1218. 39:22they can break evens if they can change
1219. 39:23that stat on the carry line kickouts and
1220. 39:25win the scraps I do think they have
1221. 39:27players that can score and I agree with
1222. 39:28you in that
1223. 39:29>> but if you don't have if you're going to
1224. 39:31give Kerry like so I say like out of the
1225. 39:3490 possessions in game. If you're going
1226. 39:35to give them 60,
1227. 39:37>> you're going to find
1228. 39:38>> the one thing Mayo do have and always
1229. 39:41have and the one thing there's not a
1230. 39:42question mark over is that fight and
1231. 39:45that intense. That's not derogatory
1232. 39:46thing. It's not it's a we've just spoke
1233. 39:48about earlier show it's a massive plus
1234. 39:50and that's where the likes of Carney and
1235. 39:52Flynn are not the biggest guys but
1236. 39:53they're not going to let Marco Shay
1237. 39:54dominate the sky. They're onetoone
1238. 39:56matchups. You back Kerry to maybe win
1239. 39:59them but they're telling me Kalan and
1240. 40:01Hessan and these guys are not going to
1241. 40:02be absolute [ __ ] dogs. that brilliant
1242. 40:04Mayo team who pushed us and probably
1243. 40:06could have beaten us in some of those
1244. 40:07games. It was a fight.
1245. 40:09>> So they bring that and the one thing and
1246. 40:12and like James, you broke our hearts at
1247. 40:14times, right? But the pressure
1248. 40:18as a player, the expectation
1249. 40:22I broke out into a rash in 2021.
1250. 40:25>> Is that coppers? Oh, [laughter]
1251. 40:28after was after coppers
1252. 40:33the pressure the expectation in 21 it
1253. 40:36wasn't a curry. It wasn't a Dublin like
1254. 40:39it was just we couldn't like 60%
1255. 40:42capacity trying to get tickets.
1256. 40:44>> Hey
1257. 40:46>> well two there for you.
1258. 40:47>> Well I'm only here for tonight on one
1259. 40:50but you said to me DB two tickets if you
1260. 40:52come in I'll get you two. Sorry to tell
1261. 40:55you buddy. They're in this hole.
1262. 40:56>> He meant he meant for the show tonight.
1263. 40:58[laughter]
1264. 41:01>> It is it is time DB. Sorry to cut across
1265. 41:03you for our raffle which will then lead
1266. 41:06to our penalty shootout quiz. So what
1267. 41:07we're going to do is we're going to pick
1268. 41:08two tickets out of Tommy's bowl of
1269. 41:10tickets here and we're going to
1270. 41:12determine which two of you are going to
1271. 41:13be playing the penalty shootout quiz
1272. 41:15tonight. So DB, why don't you put your
1273. 41:16hand into the
1274. 41:17>> Everyone should have a raffle ticket.
1275. 41:19>> If your raffle ticket is called up,
1276. 41:20please join us here at the front of the
1277. 41:22stage.
1278. 41:24>> If your raffle ticket is called, this is
1279. 41:26really important. Owen, if your raffle
1280. 41:28ticket is called, it does not mean that
1281. 41:30you have won the tickets. It means that
1282. 41:32you've won the opportunity to win the
1283. 41:34tickets. You're going to be going to
1284. 41:35headtohead with another listener in uh
1285. 41:38our penalty shootout quiz. So, I'm going
1286. 41:40to let Kier McGini pick the first
1287. 41:42>> and he's now K. Don't look cuz are up
1288. 41:44there. So,
1289. 41:45>> it's a sign.
1290. 41:45>> Have a little fish around there. Only
1291. 41:46pick one. Just one number. You have it.
1292. 41:49>> M person. I guarantee it's a mu person.
1293. 41:52>> 285.
1294. 41:53>> It's a blue 285.
1295. 41:55>> Dope.
1296. 41:57>> Well done. There you go. A blue 285.
1297. 42:00Okay. And he he's from Mayo as well.
1298. 42:02>> You can stay here. It's okay. Stay here.
1299. 42:04I'll come down to you in a second. And
1300. 42:05DB, have a little fish around. Don't be
1301. 42:07looking at numbers. You're looking for a
1302. 42:08mayo tint.
1303. 42:09>> I have four.
1304. 42:10>> Let's see what we got.
1305. 42:11>> It's your man with the jacket.
1306. 42:13>> Oops.
1307. 42:15Don't crack if it's your man with the
1308. 42:16jacket.
1309. 42:16>> One or two?
1310. 42:17>> One.
1311. 42:17>> It's one.
1312. 42:18>> Blue. 53.
1313. 42:21>> 53.
1314. 42:21>> 53. Number 53.
1315. 42:23>> Was that the last time you
1316. 42:26>> 53? I know. It was 51.
1317. 42:27>> 51. Tommy, don't be doing that to me.
1318. 42:30>> Right. While Tommy's going down there.
1319. 42:32>> Where's number 53? We got you here. How
1320. 42:34are you? How you doing? [applause]
1321. 42:36>> So,
1322. 42:39>> who who have we got?
1323. 42:41>> Owen, where are you from?
1324. 42:43>> Me. Good man.
1325. 42:44>> I hear her.
1326. 42:44>> What's your name?
1327. 42:45>> Cheers.
1328. 42:46>> Harry, where are you from?
1329. 42:47>> Wakeo. Lovely.
1330. 42:48>> Ah, well done.
1331. 42:48>> Delighted.
1332. 42:49>> Come here, soul lads. All right, for one
1333. 42:51second. Face the boys and come here. You
1334. 42:53have a big decision to make. All right.
1335. 42:55Uh you were called first. So you've got
1336. 42:57first choice.
1337. 42:59>> You've got second pick and you've got
1338. 43:01third pick, right? You've got fourth
1339. 43:03pick. This is like in school when you
1340. 43:06get to pick your five aside team. You've
1341. 43:08got to pick two boys in front of you now
1342. 43:10to represent you in the off the ball or
1343. 43:12I learn special with AIB penalty
1344. 43:15shootout quiz. So you pick your first
1345. 43:17captain.
1346. 43:18>> So they're going to go headtohead.
1347. 43:20>> Pick me first. Question for you.
1348. 43:22>> I'll go for McGini. Number one, who's
1349. 43:24your first pick?
1350. 43:25for
1351. 43:28>> Oh, interesting. Who's your second pick?
1352. 43:30>> Uh, Jake.
1353. 43:32>> Okay, you're left with David Brady. No,
1354. 43:34I don't I don't mean it like that.
1355. 43:35[laughter] I don't mean it like that.
1356. 43:38>> Now, Owen, I'm going to hand over to the
1357. 43:39quiz master on team. Your face is in
1358. 43:41your teammates's hands. Okay, best luck,
1359. 43:43lads. You should have been from Mayo and
1360. 43:44Kerry.
1361. 43:45>> Right here in Mcini, you're first up.
1362. 43:49The question, the 2024 All Ireland final
1363. 43:53was one of the greatest moments of your
1364. 43:55coaching career to date, but can you
1365. 43:57give me the names of all of the subs you
1366. 44:00introduced
1367. 44:01>> that afternoon?
1368. 44:02>> Jesus Christ.
1369. 44:03>> Holy [ __ ]
1370. 44:05>> How many?
1371. 44:06>> Good job you picked me for.
1372. 44:07>> How many?
1373. 44:08>> [ __ ] hell.
1374. 44:10>> There are four.
1375. 44:12>> Jesus.
1376. 44:19There's an obvious one to start.
1377. 44:23>> Subie,
1378. 44:24>> that's one.
1379. 44:25>> He was always a sub.
1380. 44:29>> Jason,
1381. 44:32>> no. [laughter]
1382. 44:34>> Is there a life?
1383. 44:35>> No life.
1384. 44:36>> Uh,
1385. 44:37>> no. The wrong answers allowed a phrase.
1386. 44:41>> Whoa. Bench.
1387. 44:42>> Jesus.
1388. 44:44Not bad. Some bench. [laughter] Jesus
1389. 44:48Christ.
1390. 44:53>> The 2014 Ireland final
1391. 44:55>> moment James finally reached the
1392. 44:57promised land. Can you tell me how much
1393. 45:00he scored in that decider against God?
1394. 45:03>> [ __ ] off. [laughter]
1395. 45:09>> Correct.
1396. 45:11[applause]
1397. 45:15You should have said three or four
1398. 45:17anyway. Just DB to level it up. I look
1399. 45:20at I'm only the dun in the back of the
1400. 45:22class.
1401. 45:23>> The 2006 campaign ended in
1402. 45:25disappointment for Mayo as Kerry got
1403. 45:27their hands on Sam Magcguire. But can
1404. 45:29you tell me who finished the All Ireland
1405. 45:30Championship as top scorer in ' 06?
1406. 45:35>> Conor Mor. Am I right?
1407. 45:38>> You're right. Sorry. Yeah, correct.
1408. 45:39Yeah, absolutely.
1409. 45:42James O'Donn to win it.
1410. 45:44>> Right. Set up the tiebreaker. Anyway,
1411. 45:46>> Patty Andrews, one of Dublin's great
1412. 45:48servants, got his hands on seven all
1413. 45:49Ireland medals. But can you tell me the
1414. 45:51last All Ireland final that he played
1415. 45:53in.
1416. 45:57>> I can.
1417. 46:00So the seven you didn't play in the last
1418. 46:02one.
1419. 46:02>> No.
1420. 46:03>> So you've
1421. 46:06>> No hints from the teammate.
1422. 46:08>> You didn't have 11. So you have 13. You
1423. 46:10have 15 16. Why am I saying this out
1424. 46:13loud?
1425. 46:14>> The last one he played in.
1426. 46:15>> 13 15 16 17 18.
1427. 46:19>> Did you play in 19?
1428. 46:22>> Um,
1429. 46:24>> don't listen to the crowd.
1430. 46:26>> It's 18 or 19. [ __ ]
1431. 46:29>> Um, you were washed by 20. So [laughter]
1432. 46:33>> you ruining that.
1433. 46:33>> But he was working for G plus in 20.
1434. 46:39I don't think he played in 19.
1435. 46:42>> James, we need an answer.
1436. 46:43>> Who's the [ __ ] There's 20.
1437. 46:45>> So, the last one he played in.
1438. 46:48>> Be brave.
1439. 46:49>> 18.
1440. 46:50>> No.
1441. 46:51>> [ __ ]
1442. 46:53>> What was it, Patty?
1443. 46:54>> 17.
1444. 46:55>> 17 is correct.
1445. 46:56>> What?
1446. 46:57>> Going to a tiebreak.
1447. 46:58>> [ __ ]
1448. 46:59>> You should have picked me and Geyser.
1449. 47:02>> Oh, no. So, what's going to happen here
1450. 47:04is uh David and Kieran are going to
1451. 47:06guess first on this one and closest to
1452. 47:08the number wins.
1453. 47:09>> Oh jeez.
1454. 47:11>> In what year did Mayo win their first
1455. 47:15All Ireland title?
1456. 47:18>> Oh, sure. I know that. Do you Karen?
1457. 47:20>> Hang on.
1458. 47:20>> Well, if you know it, then you're
1459. 47:22sorted. So, give us give us give us your
1460. 47:24answer and then you after
1461. 47:25>> unofficial. You can't copy me now, can
1462. 47:28you?
1463. 47:28>> You're
1464. 47:30>> No, they'll go for a They'll go for a
1465. 47:31different They can't copy if they feel
1466. 47:33like it's the right answer.
1467. 47:33>> Yeah. Yeah.
1468. 47:34>> I hope you have another tiebreaker.
1469. 47:36>> 1936
1470. 47:38>> officially in the record books.
1471. 47:41>> 1936.
1472. 47:42>> Lads, what do you reckon?
1473. 47:44>> I'll go Brady. Sounds confident.
1474. 47:45>> Should we? Yeah. Officially now. I hope
1475. 47:48you didn't Google or chat GDP, but it's
1476. 47:501936.
1477. 47:51>> I'll tell I'll tell you after, lads.
1478. 47:53What What year are you going for?
1479. 47:55>> 1936.
1480. 47:57>> Correct. Well done. You're going to
1481. 47:58another tiebreaker. You have another
1482. 48:00tiebreaker.
1483. 48:01>> I do. I've got I've got one up here.
1484. 48:02>> Always be ready.
1485. 48:04>> Right. Total number here. Closest to the
1486. 48:06number this time. Patty and James. First
1487. 48:08up,
1488. 48:09>> give me the total. This is when you put
1489. 48:11all goals and points together
1490. 48:13>> that David Clifford has scored in the
1491. 48:152026 All Ireland Football Championship.
1492. 48:19>> Patty and James first.
1493. 48:20>> Well, don't tell me I'm against you.
1494. 48:22>> I'm with you.
1495. 48:23>> I mean,
1496. 48:26>> are [laughter] we working together here?
1497. 48:27They played seven games and I reckon
1498. 48:29he's averaging
1499. 48:30>> 12 points a game. I just go up.
1500. 48:31>> Are you on my team?
1501. 48:33>> No. [laughter] No.
1502. 48:34>> David, you're on a team with Kieran.
1503. 48:36>> All right.
1504. 48:36>> He scored.
1505. 48:37>> Me and 83.
1506. 48:39>> 85.
1507. 48:40>> 85 is your answer.
1508. 48:41>> I know it.
1509. 48:42>> 85. Yeah.
1510. 48:42>> 85.
1511. 48:43>> Do you want to Will I give it a shot?
1512. 48:46>> Karen, I have it. Oh, I definitely
1513. 48:47higher cuz it's 9 I think it's 952
1514. 48:52or something like that or 953.
1515. 48:54>> It's not 9.
1516. 48:55>> That' be lower.
1517. 48:56>> Hold on a second. No, it's higher. Oh.
1518. 48:59>> Um, no. 81.
1519. 49:00>> It's just championship.
1520. 49:02>> Just championship or or in the league
1521. 49:04and championship.
1522. 49:05>> I said championship. Yeah.
1523. 49:08>> Join the league if you want as well.
1524. 49:09>> David, come on.
1525. 49:10>> What do you think? I'm not sure now.
1526. 49:13[laughter]
1527. 49:14>> What are you saying combined? 90.
1528. 49:17>> Is it?
1529. 49:19>> They said 90, did they?
1530. 49:19>> They said 85.
1531. 49:20>> 85. Um,
1532. 49:22>> you have to go at least 10 higher. Then
1533. 49:2410 games.
1534. 49:26>> I know. 10 points a game. Five games.
1535. 49:28Six games. Gizer.
1536. 49:30>> 62.
1537. 49:30>> You were just throwing out numbers.
1538. 49:32>> Lower.
1539. 49:34>> Lower. We'll go lower.
1540. 49:35>> No.
1541. 49:35>> 62.
1542. 49:36>> Huh? Oh, we have to guess. Ger, you go.
1543. 49:39[laughter]
1544. 49:40>> The [ __ ] match will have happened by
1545. 49:41the time you give this answer.
1546. 49:42>> You're going to have to split the
1547. 49:43difference now, aren't you?
1548. 49:44>> No.
1549. 49:45>> Okay. Who won?
1550. 49:46>> What? What was the What was your answer?
1551. 49:48>> 62.
1552. 49:49>> Here. 62.
1553. 49:50>> 62. We'll go with
1554. 49:51>> It's more than that.
1555. 49:51>> Ah, here.
1556. 49:52>> More than that. the championship. Yeah,
1557. 49:54>> that's spot on.
1558. 49:57[applause]
1559. 49:58>> 62
1560. 50:03for the first one. [applause]
1561. 50:06>> Hard luck, man. So, who
1562. 50:08>> we do we do have a runners up prize for
1563. 50:10you. It isn't as good as all Ireland
1564. 50:11final tickets, but there are a few bits
1565. 50:12and pieces that I have to get your
1566. 50:13details for. So, hard luck, man. Hasn't
1567. 50:15been a great year for me, but we'll give
1568. 50:16it a go next year again.
1569. 50:18>> Well done, man. Congratulations.
1570. 50:19>> Well done, boys. Want to thank your
1571. 50:20teammates.
1572. 50:21>> Sorry, man. [laughter]
1573. 50:22Hello, man.
1574. 50:25[applause]
1575. 50:26>> Six goals and 44 points.
1576. 50:28>> Just 62.
1577. 50:30>> 982 in league and championship.
1578. 50:32>> I think we only have time for one more
1579. 50:34thing.
1580. 50:36>> Andy Mo asked for it the last day in the
1581. 50:37press room downstairs. Predictions.
1582. 50:39>> That's right.
1583. 50:42>> Kieran McGini first up. Who's going to
1584. 50:43win on Sunday?
1585. 50:44>> I'm going to go for Mio because I know
1586. 50:46what they're asking for [cheering]
1587. 50:50man.
1588. 50:52I'll buy you a drink tonight in coppers.
1589. 50:56>> James, is there a drink going? If I say
1590. 50:59my [laughter]
1591. 51:00>> There'll be more than a drink going.
1592. 51:02You'll end up with a rash.
1593. 51:09>> Um. [laughter]
1594. 51:12>> Oh, stop. Is this recorded? It is.
1595. 51:15>> Kids, listen to this. Jesus. [laughter]
1596. 51:18Um
1597. 51:20>> James you back to minus 9 have you? No,
1598. 51:22that was a piss deck. Obviously, it was
1599. 51:24minus seven
1600. 51:26that No. Um, I do think that Kerry are
1601. 51:31very, very experienced team and I think
1602. 51:33the lure of back to back
1603. 51:34>> awesome, but again,
1604. 51:35>> no, it's honest. I I don't usually be
1605. 51:38playing down Kerry, but I just can't see
1606. 51:40this Mayo team at this age beating him,
1607. 51:43but I expect him to be around for a long
1608. 51:45time, but I'm going to say Carrie. Yeah,
1609. 51:49>> Patty Andrews.
1610. 51:51Yeah, I just I think there's too many
1611. 51:53fires for Mayo to put out. Uh I hope
1612. 51:55they perform. I think they will perform,
1613. 51:57but I think Kerry Kerry will win. Yeah.
1614. 52:00>> Very good. And David Brady lastly, who
1615. 52:01are you going for?
1616. 52:03>> I'll break the winds in your house
1617. 52:05tomorrow.
1618. 52:06>> It's [ __ ]
1619. 52:07>> Me and Patty live about 20 yards away
1620. 52:08from each other. [laughter]
1621. 52:10>> You got a taxi home.
1622. 52:12>> Yeah.
1623. 52:16>> We have no pressure, no expectation.
1624. 52:20And it's the one time.
1625. 52:22>> No chance either. [laughter]
1626. 52:29>> Shouldn't have said that. Can I change
1627. 52:31my prediction now?
1628. 52:32>> Let me tell you, boy. [laughter]
1629. 52:35>> There's going to be 50,000 people.
1630. 52:36There's going to be 50,000 people
1631. 52:38running onto park on the pitch on
1632. 52:40Sunday. I'll be running looking for you.
1633. 52:43[laughter]
1634. 52:44Mayo.
1635. 52:46>> Very good. Very [applause] good.
1636. 52:52Just want to say before we wrap up uh
1637. 52:54thanks a million for joining us here
1638. 52:55this evening and off the balls at
1639. 52:56Ireland final special has been with
1640. 52:58thanks to AIB. Behind every county are
1641. 53:01those who lift us all and AIB of course
1642. 53:03are proud sponsors of the GA All Ireland
1643. 53:05Senior Football Championship. Can we
1644. 53:07give it up for David Brady first of all
1645. 53:08everyone? [applause]
1646. 53:11Thanks David.
1647. 53:12to Patty Andrews
1648. 53:15to James O'Donnay
1649. 53:18[applause]
1650. 53:22home everyone. Thanks a million. Hello.
1651. 53:24Hello. Thank you. Right on boys on the