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Alister McGrath Theology Basics (2018) Chapter 10: Heaven — Transcript

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  1. 0:01hello Alister McGrath again introducing
  2. 0:04this final in a series of 11
  3. 0:06presentations on some basic themes
  4. 0:09discussed in my textbook theology the
  5. 0:11basics now in its fourth edition most
  6. 0:14works of Christian theology follow the
  7. 0:16patterns of the Creed's and they end
  8. 0:18with a discussion of eternal life the
  9. 0:21term eschatology from the Greek words
  10. 0:24tat S katha meaning the last things is
  11. 0:26widely used in Christian theology to
  12. 0:30refer to the Christian expectations of
  13. 0:32Resurrection and judgment
  14. 0:35now the New Testament is saturated with
  15. 0:38the belief that something new and
  16. 0:40something transformative has happened in
  17. 0:43human history in and through the life
  18. 0:45and death of Jesus Christ and above all
  19. 0:47through his resurrection from the dead
  20. 0:50and the theme of hope predominates even
  21. 0:54in the face of death now in view of the
  22. 0:57importance of the New Testament material
  23. 0:59to the shaping of Christian of thinking
  24. 1:01on eschatology we're going to begin by
  25. 1:04considering some of its leading themes
  26. 1:06as these are found in the preaching of
  27. 1:08Jesus himself and in the writings of
  28. 1:10Paul the dominant theme in the preaching
  29. 1:14of Christ is the coming of the kingdom
  30. 1:17of God now this phrase is actually quite
  31. 1:20rare in contemporary Jewish writings and
  32. 1:22is widely regarded as one of the most
  33. 1:24distinctive aspects of the preaching of
  34. 1:26Jesus this term or closely related ideas
  35. 1:30occur some 70 times in the synoptic
  36. 1:33Gospels now the use of the word kingdom
  37. 1:36in this context is potentially
  38. 1:38misleading as to us it suggests definite
  39. 1:42geographical region which is being ruled
  40. 1:44whereas the Greek term actually refers
  41. 1:47to the act of ruling itself in other
  42. 1:50words the kingly rule of God and the
  43. 1:54idea the kingdom of God has both present
  44. 1:57and future associations it's something
  45. 1:59that is drawing near but which will not
  46. 2:03come in all its fullness until the
  47. 2:06future for example the Lord's Prayer
  48. 2:09which remains of central importance to
  49. 2:11individual and corporate Christian
  50. 2:13worship includes reference to the coming
  51. 2:16of the kingdom in the future at the Last
  52. 2:21Supper Christ spoke to his disciples of
  53. 2:23a future occasion when they would drink
  54. 2:26wine in the kingdom of God and the
  55. 2:28general consensus among New Testament
  56. 2:30scholars is it as a tension between the
  57. 2:32now and the not yet in relation to the
  58. 2:36kingdom of God and the term in all
  59. 2:39greatest khatallah G has become widely
  60. 2:41used to refer to the relation of the
  61. 2:44present inauguration and the future
  62. 2:47fulfillment of the kingdom yes something
  63. 2:50has indeed begun but its fulfillment
  64. 2:54lies in the future simple also developed
  65. 2:59some important themes by eschatology
  66. 3:01especially the interplay of the now and
  67. 3:04the not yet and Paul talks about the
  68. 3:07coming of Christ inaugurating a new era
  69. 3:09or age and other this new age which Paul
  70. 3:13designate a new creation has yet to be
  71. 3:16fulfilled its presence can be
  72. 3:19experienced now for Paul the ultimate
  73. 3:23transformation the world is yet to come
  74. 3:25but it may be confidently awaited
  75. 3:27because this signaled and is promised in
  76. 3:30the present Paul clearly sees Christ's
  77. 3:34resurrection as an event which enables
  78. 3:36believers to live in the knowledge that
  79. 3:38death which after all is a defining
  80. 3:41feature of the present age has been
  81. 3:43overcome and Paul also looks forward to
  82. 3:47the future coming of Jesus Christ in
  83. 3:48judgment at the end of time confirming
  84. 3:52the new life of believers and their
  85. 3:54triumph over sin and death and a number
  86. 3:56of images are used to refer to this
  87. 3:58including the day of the Lord and at one
  88. 4:01point Paul uses an Aramaic term
  89. 4:03maranatha which means come o Lord as an
  90. 4:07expression of the Christian hope so we
  91. 4:12looked a bit of biblical material let's
  92. 4:13now look at some discussions about
  93. 4:15aspects of eschatology and Christian
  94. 4:18theology which are considered in this
  95. 4:20chapter a very good starting point is
  96. 4:24this question what does
  97. 4:26the resurrection body looked like what
  98. 4:29will people look like in heaven oh let's
  99. 4:33ask this question if somebody dies at
  100. 4:35the age of 16 will they appear in the
  101. 4:37streets of the New Jerusalem looking
  102. 4:40like a 60 year old or someone dies the
  103. 4:43age of 10 will they appear as a child
  104. 4:46now this issued caused a lot of
  105. 4:49discussion especially during the Middle
  106. 4:51Ages a consensus seems to emerged by the
  107. 4:54end of the 13th century since Jesus
  108. 4:57Christ was about 30 years old at the
  109. 5:00time of his death this was to be
  110. 5:02regarded as a perfect age and this is
  111. 5:06therefore the apparent age of those who
  112. 5:08are raised to glory in heaven so
  113. 5:12believers will be resurrected as they
  114. 5:14would have appeared at the age of 30
  115. 5:17even if they never live to reach that
  116. 5:20age the New Jerusalem must be populated
  117. 5:23by men and women as they would appear at
  118. 5:26the age of 30 but with every scar wound
  119. 5:28or defect removed the 12th century
  120. 5:32theologian Honorius of Orton is well
  121. 5:35worth listening to on this point he
  122. 5:37wrote all the dead an infant of one year
  123. 5:41as much as a man of 90 will rise with
  124. 5:44the same age and size as Christ when he
  125. 5:48rose namely 30 years old now you might
  126. 5:52like to look at this great depiction of
  127. 5:54heaven by the 15th century Florentine
  128. 5:56artist but not so godly look at the
  129. 5:59faces of the people in heaven how old do
  130. 6:02you think they are God silly clearly
  131. 6:05newest theology they're represented as
  132. 6:07if they were 30 years old and those also
  133. 6:10they show no physical defects now this
  134. 6:15presentation focuses particularly on the
  135. 6:17idea of heaven which is associated of
  136. 6:19powerful images such as that of the New
  137. 6:22Jerusalem seen here in this 14th century
  138. 6:25tapestry or a restored paradise like the
  139. 6:29Garden of Eden and such images depict
  140. 6:32heaven as a place of security
  141. 6:35refreshment and rest for believers in
  142. 6:37which they are finally able to fully
  143. 6:40light in the presence of God the term
  144. 6:44heaviness used frequently in the poor
  145. 6:46line writings of a New Testament to
  146. 6:49refer to the Christian hope and the
  147. 6:51lowest natural to think of heaven as a
  148. 6:53future entity
  149. 6:55pause thinking appears to embrace both a
  150. 6:57future reality and a spiritual sphere or
  151. 7:00realm which coexists with the material
  152. 7:03world of space and time so heaven is
  153. 7:07referred to both as a future home of
  154. 7:08believers and as the present dwelling
  155. 7:12place of Christ from which he will come
  156. 7:14in final judgment one of Paul's most
  157. 7:18significant statements concerning Heaven
  158. 7:21focuses on the notion of believers being
  159. 7:23citizens of heaven and in some way
  160. 7:27sharing in the life of heaven in the
  161. 7:29present the tension between the now and
  162. 7:33the not yet is evident and Paul's
  163. 7:35statements concerning heaven making it
  164. 7:37very difficult to sustain the simple
  165. 7:39idea of heaven as something which will
  166. 7:42not come into being until the future or
  167. 7:44which cannot be experienced in the
  168. 7:46present the hope of heaven has played an
  169. 7:50important role in Christian theological
  170. 7:52speculation providing spiritual
  171. 7:55consolation in times of persecution or
  172. 7:58personal distress as well as a stimulus
  173. 8:00to reflection on the nature and destiny
  174. 8:03of humanity and in bringing this
  175. 8:05presentation to a close we'll look at
  176. 8:07the place a place in the thought of
  177. 8:09Cyprian the Bishop of Carthage who was
  178. 8:12martyred in 258 as you will know each
  179. 8:15chapter in theology the basics ends with
  180. 8:18a text for study and this final chapter
  181. 8:20closes with an extract from tsipras
  182. 8:22treatise on mortality which was written
  183. 8:26during the Great Plague probably
  184. 8:28smallpox which broke out in many parts
  185. 8:30of the Roman Empire during the early to
  186. 8:3250s many Roman traditionalists blamed
  187. 8:36this epidemic on the rise of
  188. 8:37Christianity depicting as the outcome of
  189. 8:40abandoning traditional Roman religious
  190. 8:42beliefs
  191. 8:43one of Cyprian's main concerns in the
  192. 8:46street his own mortality is to set out
  193. 8:49his vision of a Christian hope
  194. 8:51Christians ought not to be afraid of
  195. 8:53death
  196. 8:54in that it enables them to return to
  197. 8:57their homeland and Ciprian uses a Latin
  198. 9:00word patria rich word meaning native
  199. 9:04land the place where you belong in
  200. 9:07making this point so Cyprian invites his
  201. 9:10readers to imagine themselves returning
  202. 9:12home and anticipating the joy of being
  203. 9:14reunited with friends family and above
  204. 9:18all the risen Christ who has gone there
  205. 9:20before them he writes we have renounced
  206. 9:24the world and are in the meantime living
  207. 9:27here as guests and strangers we regard
  208. 9:30paradise as our native land so let's
  209. 9:35look at the structure of this final
  210. 9:36chapter in theology the basics so you
  211. 9:38can work through this on your own we
  212. 9:41begin by introducing the idea of
  213. 9:43eschatology and then look at eschatology
  214. 9:46in the preaching of Jesus and the
  215. 9:48teaching of Paul and we then move on to
  216. 9:51look at a number of episodes which allow
  217. 9:53us to explore the relevance of this
  218. 9:55theme for Christian theology we look at
  219. 9:58a Gustin on the two cities and medieval
  220. 10:00debates about the nature of the
  221. 10:02resurrection body we then look at the
  222. 10:05way in which eschatology was suppressed
  223. 10:08during the Enlightenment is now being
  224. 10:10rediscovered and we then look at two
  225. 10:12very interesting writers Jurgen Moltmann
  226. 10:15on the theology of Hope and / benedict
  227. 10:18xvi on the Christian Hope then we look
  228. 10:21at the last things heaven hell and
  229. 10:24purgatory exploring the basic contours
  230. 10:27of Christian thinking on eschatology and
  231. 10:32that brings our short series of
  232. 10:34introductory presentations on Christian
  233. 10:36theology to a close these presentations
  234. 10:39have been brief and there is so much
  235. 10:42more that needs to be said
  236. 10:44maybe you've enjoyed paddling in the
  237. 10:47shallow end the theological pool and you
  238. 10:50feel you're ready to move into deeper
  239. 10:52waters so where am I to go from here
  240. 10:56video presentations are great for
  241. 10:58breaking the ice and getting
  242. 10:59conversations started but you want more
  243. 11:01so let me tell you about three of my
  244. 11:04books which you might find helpful as
  245. 11:06you go further in
  246. 11:07deeper in your explorations the first of
  247. 11:11these is a comprehensive book Christian
  248. 11:14theology and introduction which is now
  249. 11:16in its 6th edition and this book aims to
  250. 11:20introduce Christian theology on the
  251. 11:22assumption you know nothing about it it
  252. 11:25introduces and explains everything it's
  253. 11:28got three main sections the first which
  254. 11:30is only four chapters long looks at the
  255. 11:32four main historical periods of
  256. 11:35Christian theology and the second again
  257. 11:38consisting of four chapters looks at
  258. 11:40questions of methods for example the
  259. 11:42sources of theology the third part deals
  260. 11:45with the core themes of Christian
  261. 11:47theology and it's ten chapters give you
  262. 11:49a comprehensive and accessible overview
  263. 11:52of the main topics debates and schools
  264. 11:55of thought within Christian theology
  265. 11:57this work is nearly three times as long
  266. 12:01as the ology the basics but if you've
  267. 12:04worked your way through the shorter work
  268. 12:06you are all set to wrestle with this
  269. 12:08larger and more comprehensive volume or
  270. 12:12you might like to engage some writers or
  271. 12:14text in more detail each of the ten
  272. 12:17chapters of theology of the basics ends
  273. 12:19with a short text you can explore but
  274. 12:22there are so many more interesting texts
  275. 12:25you can explore and I can help you in
  276. 12:27two ways here first of all you might
  277. 12:30like to look at the companion volume to
  278. 12:32this textbook theology the basic
  279. 12:35readings now in its third edition and
  280. 12:37this work focuses on sixty-eight
  281. 12:39carefully chosen texts each of which is
  282. 12:42introduced carefully so you can get the
  283. 12:45most out of reading and reflecting on
  284. 12:47them each reading in this work is about
  285. 12:50800 words long and that's long enough to
  286. 12:53let you get into it without overwhelming
  287. 12:56you and these texts have been selected
  288. 12:58with great care to make sure they are
  289. 13:01interesting and accessible so this means
  290. 13:03I've chosen pieces more fleurs like CS
  291. 13:06Lewis GK Chesterton and Dorothy L sayers
  292. 13:08who are really interesting and engaging
  293. 13:11writers yet who are rarely included in
  294. 13:14traditional theological anthologies to
  295. 13:18give you an idea of what to expect here
  296. 13:20are the six read
  297. 13:21things that make up the chapter on God
  298. 13:23at the of Athens on the
  299. 13:26Christian God Thomas Aquinas on
  300. 13:30analogies of God Jurgen Moltmann on the
  301. 13:33suffering of God answers from Balthazar
  302. 13:36on the glory of God
  303. 13:38Elizabeth a johnson on female analogies
  304. 13:41for God and Sarah Coakley on
  305. 13:43vulnerability and gold but you may feel
  306. 13:46you want more than this if this is a
  307. 13:48case you might like to try my Christian
  308. 13:51theology Arita which brings together 353
  309. 13:55readings from more than 250 sources and
  310. 13:58to help you cope I provide a lot of
  311. 14:01introductory and expansion material that
  312. 14:04will make it a lot easier to make sense
  313. 14:06of what you're reading and appreciate
  314. 14:08significance and relevance this book is
  315. 14:11much longer than theology the basic
  316. 14:14readings it's chapter on God for example
  317. 14:17has 43 readings each of which is
  318. 14:19individually introduced here are the
  319. 14:22titles of five of these readings to give
  320. 14:25you a sense of what you will find
  321. 14:27Iren a US on the origin of evil hilary
  322. 14:31of poitiers on the trinity and some of
  323. 14:33canterbury on the compassion of god
  324. 14:36Julian of Norwich and God as our mother
  325. 14:38and Sarah Coakley on social models of
  326. 14:41the Trinity now many people have written
  327. 14:44to me saying how much they enjoyed
  328. 14:46engaging these readings I hope you will
  329. 14:49enjoy doing the same but wherever you
  330. 14:52choose to go after reading a theology of
  331. 14:55the basics let me wish you well in your
  332. 14:57spiritual intellectual pilgrimage thank
  333. 15:00you very much for allowing me to be part
  334. 15:03of your journey and goodbye from Oxford

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