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0:00uh welcome Alice uh thank you for
0:03joining spaces and uh I look forward to
0:06this discussion and um perhaps we could
0:09start by uh outlining if you could
0:12outline what uh afd's platform is uh
0:16what are the the the main things you're
0:17aiming for where does Germany need
0:19change and just to educate people who
0:21have U never heard of uh afd or IFD if
0:25it be German um and uh a lot of people
0:29especially in America um never heard of
0:32afd so perhaps this would be very
0:35helpful okay thank you very much elen
0:39for having me and um to give this
0:41opportunity to to openly speak about um
0:46um different matters let me uh just can
0:49you hear
0:50me I can yes perfect
0:53perfect um to start with um who we are
0:58um the afd is
1:00uh the alternative for Germany it is a
1:04relatively new party um founded 11 years
1:09ago uh during the course of um the um
1:14the Euro um um um
1:19problems um so um unfortunately I have
1:23to start uh when I shed some light on
1:26our party with the Quiet negative
1:30circumstances um in
1:33Germany our country is a great country
1:36with highly motivated
1:38people but our
1:40country um has been governed not in a
1:44proper way within the last 20 25
1:47years um we had the Angela Merkel
1:51Administration for 16 years and then the
1:54so-called traffic light Coalition that
1:57imploded last year and now we have
1:59heading
2:01elections um in my point of view uh
2:04Angela Merkel the first green
2:08chancelor um she ruined basically our
2:11country she enforced without asking the
2:15people she enforced to open our borders
2:18for illegal immigration in
2:222015 she wrecked and destroyed our uh
2:26Backbone in terms of obnoxious energy
2:31policy um for um the foreign uh
2:35listeners here in this audience um
2:38Germany is the only industrial country
2:41the only industrial country that um um
2:46unpluged the nuclear power plant so the
2:50aim of Angela Merkel um was to um to
2:57enforce just solar
3:00and wind
3:01energy and you don't need to be very
3:05smart um to encounter that you cannot
3:09run a industrial country with just wind
3:13and solar because you don't have any
3:15energy and
3:18electricity when the sun doesn't shine
3:21and when the wind uh doesn't blow and
3:24this is a major problem sorry I mean I
3:27obviously I'm a big fan of of solar
3:29energy but um clearly somebody if a
3:32country is at a very high latitude then
3:34the amount of solar um Power in the
3:36winter is going to be substantially
3:38reduced yeah um and there of course
3:39there's a significant difference in the
3:41day night cycle of energy usage um so a
3:46lot of it a lot of power can be done
3:48with solar and with large scale grid
3:51energy batteries but it must be
3:54supplemented with other forms of power
3:57um because um there's not a lot of
3:59sunshine in the middle of winter in
4:01Germany um so it the solution obviously
4:05must be a multifaceted solution uh where
4:09there is certainly Renewables but also
4:11um that that there does need to be some
4:14form some amount of fossil fuel energy
4:17and and and especially nuclear I think
4:19nuclear is very much underrated I was I
4:22think it was a tragic for Dom to shut
4:24down the nuclear power plants um in fact
4:26they're they're very welld designed and
4:28I think that the right move uh is in
4:30fact to increase the amount of nuclear
4:33power substantially in Germany this
4:35would be um this would be great um yes
4:39absolutely yeah yes absolutely um so
4:44that was the reason why I wanted to shed
4:46some light on the current situation so
4:49in order to form a opinion what our
4:51party stand for because this is exactly
4:54what you said um we stand for a energy
4:58energy Supply diversification we cannot
5:01run a a industrial country like Germany
5:06with a strong still strong manufacturing
5:09uh base um to tell you the truth um our
5:14manufacturing production um it peaked in
5:172018 and it plummeted since then due to
5:20high energy costs and you cannot run a
5:23country like that so therefore we we say
5:26look we need to be technology open we
5:30need to reinforce again nuclear power
5:33plants because nuclear energy Supply is
5:37um is carbon free right so therefore we
5:40would also yeah we would also reduce our
5:44carbon footprint uh which is uh
5:46obnoxiously very very high and this is
5:49the entire irony about it so uh our
5:53governments like the Angela Merkel
5:55government and the so-called ridiculous
5:58traffic light coal ition they enforced a
6:01green policy upon our country that
6:04doesn't work and yeah and we would like
6:08to go back to technology openness
6:11here yeah I think that makes a lot of
6:12sense I mean my recommendation and I've
6:14said this publicly before is that
6:16Germany should not merely reopen the
6:18nuclear power plants but substantially
6:20increase the um the power generation the
6:24the um you don't with on in the same
6:27space meaning without increasing the the
6:29size of the nuclear power plant uh in
6:31any meaningful way without increasing
6:32the amount of land area that it uses you
6:34can dramatically increase the power
6:36output of the nuclear power station
6:38because the the actual core part of the
6:41power station is extremely tiny people
6:43don't quite realize just how small the
6:45center core of a nuclear power plant is
6:48um yes it's like amazingly tiny and so
6:51you can actually in the same land area
6:53no increased land area dramatically
6:55increase the amount of nuclear power
6:57that that that any given nuclear power
6:59St is producing um you do need a a water
7:03source for um for the to run the steam
7:06turbines but uh really far more power
7:09output is possible than than people
7:11realize um and I think the sensible
7:14solution
7:15is uh you know Renewables but with with
7:19a lot of nuclear and then uh you know to
7:21supplement uh where that there has to be
7:25some amount of uh hydrocarbon power
7:28generation to supplement yes where yeah
7:31just it just needs to be sensible yeah
7:33absolutely but uh um do you know what so
7:36just just uh just let me uh do just like
7:40one more example because um like like um
7:44like wind turbines wind energy in
7:47comparison to nuclear power uh Supply is
7:51highly inefficient also uh in terms of
7:54land use so for instance I give one
7:58example just to sh some light on it if
8:00you were to replace one nuclear power
8:03plant let's say like one like Mand
8:06nuclear power plant here in Germany with
8:08an annual electricity production of 10
8:12billion kilowatt per hour with Mod than
8:15wind turbines with a production of just
8:188 million kilowatt per hour per year you
8:22would need
8:241,250 wind turbines just to just to
8:28replace this one power plant and with a
8:33rotor diameter of 70 M and the minimum
8:37distance from large wind farms um you
8:40end up around with like 100 square
8:43kilometers for example this corresponds
8:47to half of the city major city of
8:49stutgart right so uh so this this entire
8:54thing and uh just to just to uh uh just
8:58to stress the fact again you don't need
9:01to be uh very smart just to do your
9:05calculations but our but our energy
9:09ping crazy thing the crazy thing is is
9:11like like a bunch of these these these
9:14energy questions um you you do not need
9:16to be like like a world leading
9:19physicist it's very basic math like yes
9:22High SCH less than High School level
9:24math I'd say middle school math even um
9:27it's it's very straightforward uh
9:30not not complicated yes absolutely and
9:33then during during the uh crisis like
9:36during the war
9:38huh sorry no please go ahead yeah so uh
9:42during the war of Ukraine so um our our
9:46um our um gas supply was just destroyed
9:50and that um actually shed some light on
9:53our in uh son our severe dependence on
9:56Russian gas and do you know what what's
9:59a government decided in this uh crisis
10:02when the energy prices Skyrock after we
10:05were cut off of uh of of uh of cheap
10:09energy Supply from Russia they switched
10:13off the last nuclear power plan to even
10:16more uh create a um a shortage of energy
10:21so either you must be very
10:23stupid or you just hate your own country
10:30isn't it I I think it's mostly the very
10:33stupid category um the very St well I
10:36mean there there's old saying that like
10:38one should never ascribe to malice that
10:40which can easily be explained by
10:42incompetence yes you're perfectly right
10:45no so um but yes I I I actually when I
10:49saw that Germany was turning off the
10:50power plants after being cut off from
10:52gas supplies you know from Russia I
10:55thought this is the crazi this is one of
10:56the craziest things I've ever seen just
10:58just when Germany most needs electricity
11:03Germany is shutting down one of the best
11:05sources of electricity which is nuclear
11:06power yes and completely carbon
11:10free yeah crazy crazy it's crazy yeah so
11:15so I I guess um to summarize the mean
11:20the the two main things that uh uh afd
11:24is aiming for uh in terms of change is
11:27uh a sensible um
11:30uh energy policy um and uh sensible
11:33immigration policy yes
11:37exactly so but actually even more so we
11:41would like so um if I if if I may
11:44continue a little bit because now it's a
11:47it's a el it's a complete new situation
11:50for me um that um that I just can have a
11:55normal conversation and I'm not
11:58interrupted or NE negatively framed um
12:01how that has been um in the media the
12:03case in the last 10 years which is
12:06completely ridiculous so uh um what we
12:10what we also stand for since we are a
12:12conservative libertarian party so at
12:15least we see ourselves like this but we
12:18are extremely negatively framed as a
12:21so-called extremist Party by the uh
12:24mainstream media so we just say look uh
12:27we need to reduce uh bureaucracy see we
12:29need to free our our firms our companies
12:33the individuals of the subious um um bu
12:37bureaucratic um um conditions here do
12:40you know like how long it takes how many
12:43days it takes to get a business permit
12:45in Germany just guess well as as as as
12:48it turns out I do because we oh yeah the
12:51big plan so how many days it take Car
12:54Factory uh you know just um near Berlin
12:58uh so we had uh many many challenges I
13:02mean this is to be clear like we
13:04actually had a lot of support a lot of
13:06local support a lot of local support
13:08from from the the local government from
13:10the national government and and despite
13:12all that support just the sheer number
13:14of rules that bu you know the people in
13:17in the government are required to follow
13:19um is completely crazy um and we we had
13:23to I think it was 25,000 Pages was our
13:27permit um and it had to be it had to be
13:30all printed on pap
13:325,000
13:34yes I think this is crazy in the end
13:3725,000 and then there has to be many
13:39many copies made so it literally was a
13:41truck of paper
13:44um we like surely we can make this
13:46electronic you know should isn't that
13:49better no not possible you need to have
13:51that on paper in Germany and no it has
13:53to be paper I'm like this is crazy um
13:56this is only a few years ago it's not
13:57the distant pth I mean it's like we're
13:59you know we're well into the we're we're
14:02we're you know quarter of the way
14:03through the 21st century it's like guys
14:05let's just 45,000 actual printed pages
14:09and then I believe every page needed to
14:12be stamped with a physical stamp um I
14:15mean it's gonna really Tire somebody out
14:17to do so much yeah um you know they're
14:20gonna get some many many people tired
14:24arms yeah they're G to get a repetitive
14:26stress injury from having to stamp
14:30stress
14:33injuries just end up to the hospital or
14:35something I mean that's that's yeah um
14:38so uh track of
14:41paper I'm not trying to blame the the
14:43sort of individuals who are doing this
14:44time because they are just following the
14:46rules so we have to change the rules and
14:49and there needs to be um I think in my
14:51view for for you know old countries but
14:54especially countries that have endured
14:55prosperity for a long time it is
14:57extremely important to have have what I
14:59call sort of garbage collection of rules
15:02which is to reexamine the the rules and
15:04regulations U and and make sure that
15:07that they are clearly a net good and and
15:09if there's any doubt about them being a
15:11net good we should eliminate them
15:12because otherwise we get to this point
15:14where everything is illegal and uh so
15:17it's just absolutely
15:20crazy absolutely absolutely and it's not
15:24only about bureaucracy it's also about
15:27taxes Germany has a highest taxes uh of
15:31all oecd countries so um so the normal
15:36German employee he works half of more
15:40than half of a year for the state you
15:41have to imagine that like like uh with
15:45taxes plus Social
15:47Security um so more than half of the
15:50year you work for this um dysfunctioning
15:54State because like the state uh does not
15:58provide the vital um the vital
16:01Provisions for the people here so um he
16:05doesn't provide for security so we have
16:07like like skyrocketing criminal rights
16:11here um um he doesn't care about
16:15education so we have this same um insane
16:19Vish leftish socialist agenda uh in our
16:23educational system so the young people
16:26they don't learn anything in school um
16:30in
16:31University um um Etc so they just learn
16:35about gender studies and they just
16:39yeah and uh no really like like I was
16:43under the I was under the impression
16:44that Germany had a had a pretty good
16:46education system that yes that was quite
16:49rigorous with you know the gymnasium and
16:50all that sort of stuff at least it used
16:52to at one point um yes so um but it
16:57sounds like this has uh I don't know the
17:00work mine virus has infected Germany
17:01quite badly yeah yeah um so you have the
17:07the international standard of Pisa
17:09testing right so the Pisa survey so uh
17:12Germany like a couple of years ago was
17:15okay scored okay scored but now so we so
17:21we just plummeted because because uh the
17:24survey showed that young people are not
17:26able uh to properly do Mar
17:29or speak or write German and in some
17:33like in some states here in Germany you
17:35have to imagine they just abolished the
17:38writing grades uh in terms uh to get um
17:43um the uh language grade right so you
17:46don't need to write German properly
17:49anymore because our entire educational
17:52system has been deteriorating and that
17:54is also um the the reason for instance
17:58why Young people they votee for uh for
18:02us now because they want to have a
18:05proper education and they want to have
18:07back a proper educ educational system
18:11that um um that um that um provides the
18:16young people with uh with capabilities
18:20and that is also the reason why I uh so
18:23my personal opinion is that we have to
18:26go back to a merit based system
18:29right so we need to go back to a merit
18:31based incentive system H and go away
18:34from all this socialist gender things um
18:38um being in our educational system the
18:41families and the parents they have the
18:45responsibility of their children and the
18:48schools and the university they have the
18:50responsibility uh to give good education
18:53and that uh and not all this Vogue
18:55socialist nonsensical gender stuff
18:59sure uh no absolutely um I mean the
19:02whole point of going to school is to
19:04learn uh useful skills that help you in
19:07life um help you be productive and
19:09understand the world yes and uh
19:13otherwise it's not a school it's it's a
19:15it's just a propaganda
19:17institution true yeah so um okay well I
19:21mean that makes makes a lot of sense um
19:25so see yeah so maybe maybe I can just um
19:30go on because I I was um I I was just
19:33giving an example of the educational
19:35system uh where where the state fails
19:39because because because our state the
19:42government collected in the last year um
19:45a record high of income tax so um they
19:49col they collected like around like
19:52above one um one trillion right um of
19:57euros so it is a record high tax but the
20:01state they cannot they cannot handle
20:05taxpayers money so what do they do so
20:08they just uh um um throw throw the money
20:11out of the window for uh for uh for
20:15immigration in our social system for
20:17instance so since 2015 just to give you
20:20some numbers and also the audience to
20:23have to have an idea what's going on
20:25here in Germany so we had an influx um
20:29um of um of almost 7 million people 7
20:33million people but these are the
20:36officially counted so um 7 million
20:39people wow okay 7 million people of
20:41influx since 2015 officially counted and
20:46then uh because the people they
20:49just just another funny numbers our
20:52state allows people to throw away their
20:55passports before they cross our border
20:59that are not protected and controlled so
21:0257% almost 60% of the people coming into
21:05our country on through a open border
21:08they throw away their papers why do they
21:11do that because once entered our country
21:15our funny country with this funny
21:17immigration policy they cannot be
21:19deported anymore so that's a reason why
21:22so our state our government like um the
21:27Angela Merkel government and the last
21:29one they proclaimed a policy that
21:33everyone can choose to cross our border
21:36to immigrate into our social security
21:39system and cannot be deported afterwards
21:43because they threw away their passports
21:46I mean like how how insane is that well
21:50it is very insane but that's exactly
21:52what's happened in the US yeah exactly I
21:54mean clearly there there's you know
21:56there's a sort of uh I don't know uh
21:58sort of a far-left agenda that's being
22:00pushed uh throughout uh Western
22:03Civilization any any place they can go
22:05because the exact the exact same thing
22:07was done in the US where uh and now they
22:10they sort of calling people illegal
22:11immigrants they call them undocumented
22:13and the reason undocumented is because
22:15they threw away their passport just like
22:17you're talking about in fact if on on
22:20the Mexican side of the Border in the US
22:21there's a giant pile of of discarded uh
22:25passports and driver's licenses like a
22:28huge file
22:29unable because it's actually worse to
22:32come in with a passport than to come in
22:34with
22:34nothing um and then uh just like in
22:37Germany the the the democratic
22:39government uh then gives um massive
22:42amounts of uh money uh and support to
22:46what they call undocumented but but then
22:48but if they're undocumented we actually
22:49have no idea if they are a murderer
22:52rapist we have no idea because they they
22:54have no documents so we can't actually
22:56tell and so as a result uh there have
22:59been there's been a massive influx of of
23:01criminals into the US uh because and
23:04frankly I I mean I'm wondering what's
23:07taking criminals so long to come here I
23:09mean this is a t i mean America is a
23:11target-rich environment it's it's it's
23:13you
23:14know the you could in America it's so
23:17easy to steal things uh in these wealthy
23:19neighborhoods it's like the only thing
23:21that is is going to slow down how much
23:23you can steal is is is if your back hurs
23:25from carrying out all the goods you know
23:27it's like because you're just like a
23:29it's you're not a rubber you're just a
23:31moving company um so uh you know like it
23:36seems like all the world's criminals
23:37just come to America on that basis um
23:40because it's a such an it's much easier
23:43to be a career criminal in America than
23:44it is in in other countries where
23:46there's not that much to steal yeah um
23:49so um you a massive increase in crime in
23:52in the US yeah may I uh may I ask a
23:56question on that so read I read that for
24:00instance in California um by the way I'm
24:03very sorry what's happening there it's
24:05terrible it's really terrible to see um
24:08and um yeah it's terrible but um in the
24:11case of California that U they just
24:15lifted um um uh the the the prosecution
24:21of Seft because you have so many cases
24:24of theft is it
24:26true um yes the the de facto situation
24:30um in California is that uh theft is
24:33almost never prosecuted it's maybe one
24:36or two maybe 1% of the time uh is is
24:39theft prosecuted um and uh and even when
24:43it is prosecuted the the the criminals
24:45are let out on bail immediately so
24:47basically theft is legal in
24:49California I'm be it's it's it's crazy
24:53um it's crazy yeah um now there was
24:57recently a referendum uh in California
24:59to uh to make to make crime to make
25:03stealing illegal again which was and
25:06actually that was very popular and it
25:08passed uh uh so um because it it was
25:12actually literally legal to steal
25:14anything under $1,000 which means people
25:16could just walk into a store yeah at
25:18$1,000 at a time and take out anything
25:20they want and if this if the storekeeper
25:23stopped them the storekeeper would be
25:25arrested um so this is literally like
25:28the The Joker and Batman it's like the
25:30the criminals you know um are in charge
25:33and the the honest citizens are arrested
25:35it's just completely insane now like you
25:37said the the the people in California
25:40did vote overwhelmingly to make theft
25:42illegal again yeah um but but but um
25:46astonishingly the governor of California
25:49uh Governor um Nome he was against the
25:53making theft illegal
25:56um implement
25:59yeah well well but what what they're
26:01going to do is even though it is
26:02technically illegal again um they the
26:06the sort of farli will refuse to enforce
26:09it unbelievable because because you
26:11really need two things uh for something
26:14to work for for laws to work you need
26:16you need both the law and you need
26:18enforcement of the law and if you don't
26:20have if you have if you so I mean this
26:23is something that George sorus really
26:24figured out I mean he's he's sort of
26:26yeah bril brilliant guy but honestly
26:27very
26:29you know anti-human in my opinion uh is
26:31that you don't actually need to change
26:33the law you just need to stop
26:34enforcement of the law um and and and
26:37that that does that does the
26:39trick um so I but I think there's there
26:43is somewhat of a Reawakening in the US
26:46and I think even in California people
26:47are are tired of tired of this and they
26:49won't change and I think that's that's
26:52really if you say like what people are
26:54wondering like why did uh why why did
26:57Donald Trump win um and it's and and
26:59wasn't just a small victory um in the US
27:02elections this year uh you know
27:04president Trump won uh the Electoral
27:07College he also won the popular vote
27:08majority of the of the people um and the
27:12the the house is Republican and the
27:14senat Republican what this says is the
27:17American people uh are demanding change
27:20that be very clear um and my
27:23recommendation to for the people in
27:25Germany is to do the same um if if if
27:28you are unhappy with the situation you
27:30must vote for change um and that is why
27:33I'm really strongly recommending that
27:35people vote for afd U that's my that's
27:38my strong recommendation and and I think
27:41uh this is simply the sensible move U
27:45and um I think Alice be's a very very
27:47reasonable person and hopefully people
27:49can tell just from this conversation
27:52like nothing outrageous is being
27:54proposed uh just common sense um so uh
27:59in fact I I I as I've said publicly I
28:02think only afd can save Germany and I
28:05just want to be very clear about that
28:07only afd can save Germany end of story
28:11and people really need to get behind afd
28:13and otherwise things are going to get
28:15very very much worse in Germany yes
28:18because because be because you rightly
28:21said um there is a difference of making
28:24a law and then enforcing it so now we
28:26have the situation in Germany where you
28:29have on the one hand you have the afd
28:31and on the other hand what's so-called
28:34uni party right the uni party consisting
28:38of all the others because because they
28:41stick together and um no matter what
28:45they say they're not able to implement
28:49to enforce the promises they're doing in
28:52every election especially the Angela
28:54Merkel party do you know that the uh
28:56that the chancellor CED so so my so my
29:00running mate of the Chris Democratic
29:02party that it's um wrongly labeled for
29:06instance by The Economist as a center
29:08right party so in my opinion it's a
29:10leftish green party but anyway Angela
29:13mer was the first green Chancellor we
29:15had here so um what he did is um that he
29:20by the way um just um talking about
29:24interference um so I just look it up
29:27here um
29:28he called your interest so your
29:31interests in German politics pushy and
29:34presumptuous
29:36and about George Soros yeah yeah exactly
29:39and Bill Gates so that was not a problem
29:44when Bill Gates uh um actually tried to
29:46sell his Mna vaccination and not
29:51mentioning all the huge um side effects
29:55on people's health and no one takes
29:58responsibility about that and the entire
30:01Bluff and scam of wearing a mask right
30:06so yes it's unbelievable and um also
30:09that candidate of the Chris Democrats
30:12like fredrich Mez he warned the world
30:15about the consequences of voting for
30:18Donald Trump in October last year so uh
30:22so so far for like foreign interferences
30:26right so it's unbelievable it's really
30:28unbelievable like how Donald Trump was
30:31treated by German media and German
30:35politicians during um his election
30:38campaign was unbelievable and I
30:40mentioned that before in a Bloomberg
30:42interview it created for me it created
30:46physical pain to see that how he was
30:48disparaged like and his entire family so
30:53um yeah so I feel very sorry for these
30:56people um
30:58um just like uh yeah um um saying
31:02negative things and um now yeah while we
31:07while we talk 150 bureaucrats of the
31:10European Union are watching us our
31:13conversation um to enforce this
31:16ridiculous Digital Services act that is
31:20uh nothing uh nothing else than a
31:24censorship on Free Speech but free
31:27speech right it's a yes and you said it
31:30free speech is a precondition of
31:32democracy if you are not able to form a
31:36proper opinion and exchange opinions and
31:39ideas and uh a democracy should be a
31:42competition of the best ideas right and
31:45compromises absolutely yeah but yes
31:47exactly without freedom of speech people
31:51are are are obviously not able to say
31:52what they want to say and and then um
31:55they cannot make an informed vote so if
31:58if if people are are simply fed
32:00propaganda and have no access to what's
32:03really going on then uh they can't make
32:06an informed vote uh and then they you
32:08don't have a real democracy so that's
32:11why I say you know free speech is the
32:13bedr of democracy uh there must be free
32:16speech in order for people to make an
32:17informed vote so that's essential um and
32:22and and you can sort of it's actually
32:24quite easy to tell who the bad guys are
32:26it's like who wants to shut down free
32:27freedom of speech they are the bad guys
32:29it's very clear yes and you know what
32:34what uh what um what Adolf Hitler did
32:38the first thing he switched off uh U um
32:42free speech so he controls the media and
32:46uh and without that he would have never
32:50been
32:52successful
32:54successful this is what you do
32:55absolutely yeah no exactly it's um that
32:59that was uh one of one of the first
33:01things he did was was to control the
33:03media and um and uh imposed extreme
33:08censorship um and uh and really what he
33:11was trying to do was shut down any PRS
33:14Semitic uh media uh anything premi or
33:17any defense of the Jewish people was
33:20shut down that's that so that's that's a
33:23so we have like you know very you know
33:26for those who who want censorship they
33:28should I think they should be careful
33:30what they what they ask for because uh
33:33when if once you Institute censorship
33:35it's only a matter of time before that
33:36censorship is turned on you and
33:39eventually they will censor you and
33:41that's the that's the danger um because
33:43people love to censor uh things they
33:46don't agree with but they don't realize
33:48that one day that censorship is going to
33:50be turned on them absolutely so yeah um
33:54so I mean I mean you mentioned of course
33:56uh uh you know Hitler and whatnot uh now
34:00there's a lot of the media uh wants to
34:03portray afd as far right as somehow
34:06associated with Nazism or something like
34:08that perhaps you could address uh that
34:12that concern because you know people
34:13when they have sort of rightwing in
34:15Germany they you know naturally have a
34:18bit of a negative
34:22reaction um yes thank you uh thank you
34:25for the question uh first of all
34:28um I would like to um since I'm a um
34:32Economist um um I would like to um shed
34:36some light on the idea uh when we talk
34:39about Hitler uh on the idea of the
34:42national
34:44socialists uh back then during the third
34:46R uh the National Socialist um as a word
34:51says there were socialists out of are
34:54consider yeah naal Industries like czy
34:58yes absolutely he was a communist and he
35:01considered himself as a socialist so
35:05what they did they um they um they um um
35:11um yeah they um state founded then the
35:14um the um private companies and then
35:17they asked for um for uh taxes huge
35:21taxes and then also wait a second I need
35:24to ask the word now for
35:28National yeah nationalize the entire
35:31industry yeah you said that before and
35:34um and and the biggest success the
35:38biggest success after that terrible era
35:42in our history was to label Adolf Hitler
35:47as right and conservative he was exactly
35:51the opposite he wasn't a conservative he
35:54wasn't a Libertarian he was a communist
35:59socialist guy so full stop no more
36:03comment on that and we are exactly the
36:06opposite we are libertarian conservative
36:09party and see look at this uh during uh
36:13like now like during the discussion of
36:15this terrible Hamas attack uh on Israel
36:19so only the leftish
36:22Palestinians they criticize uh um um the
36:26policies here so you have a deeply
36:31vested
36:33anti-Semitism within the leftish
36:35movement and it was always that case why
36:39and Adolf Hitler he also played with
36:41that he played with the Envy of people
36:45Jewish people have been highly
36:48educated very cultivated and there were
36:51successful there were worthy people back
36:53in Germany then and then he enforced the
36:57Envy of the population against these
37:01people and it was a socialist measure
37:05taken against them look at Stalin look
37:08at the Soviet Union under Stalin the
37:10very same thing so he was nothing else
37:13than anti-semitic uh socialist and we
37:16are exactly the opposite we are a
37:19Libertarian conservative party we are
37:21wrongly framed the entire time and we
37:24would like to free the people of the
37:27State I want to have independently
37:30thinking people self-confident people I
37:33would like to have a state that is
37:36minimized minimized uh to his functions
37:40um and letting the people having their
37:43freedom of speech um freedom of wealth
37:47also like generating wealth uh with
37:49these obnoxiously high taxes the PE uh
37:53the state roads the backbone uh of
37:57wealth right so the people are not able
37:59to accumulate wealth that make them
38:02independent from the state so I would
38:05like to have independently thinking um
38:09well educated people who have the
38:11freedom to form their own opinion I want
38:14to have strong leaders in Germany I
38:17don't want to have stupid weak leaders
38:19as we had uh in the last couple of years
38:23because these people cannot uh think
38:25straightly and there are a big dat
38:28look at the war in Ukraine now there a
38:30big danger of to our national security
38:33and to uh actually to the entire
38:36European security this is also my hope
38:40um in Donald Trump and in you in your
38:44Administration um that you end that
38:47terrible War this worthless worthless
38:50dying of young people every day like as
38:53fast as you can because the Europeans
38:55they cannot they actually given up on
38:58everything like on a good military on a
39:01good negoti negotiation power they're
39:04completely depend um on the US um in the
39:08sense of oh um the USA need to do the
39:12entire job we don't need to do anything
39:15uh we just escalate the entire conflict
39:19um um against Russia it's very dangerous
39:23what's going on here and only um um you
39:26can you can you can basically stop
39:29it yeah I I mean I think U president
39:32Trump is is going to you know is going
39:35to solve that that conflict I think very
39:36quickly um as you point out U it's now
39:40been in somewhat of a a stalemate for a
39:42few years and all that's happened over
39:44the past few years is hundreds of
39:45thousands of people dying um but but for
39:48for no gains yeah um and the longer this
39:51conflict goes on um the more uh Ukraine
39:55weakens relative to Russia I mean
39:56Ukraine is smaller country it simply
39:58cannot afford the losses relative to
40:00Russia Russia has uh it's just you know
40:05it's this this is the longer this drags
40:07on the worse it is uh for for Ukraine um
40:10and then you've got all these poor you
40:12know men dying and in for nothing why um
40:19so um I hope this can be this this
40:22terrible conflict can be resolved uh
40:24quickly and I think it will be under
40:25President Trump yeah well be great
40:28actually because this is our now really
40:30like um the people here like like many
40:34people are
40:35anxious and they're anxious for a very
40:39good reason I think because this
40:41conflict uh conflict has a potential to
40:44escalate big time um towards a nuclear
40:48exchange and here the European
40:51governments they have no measure they
40:53have no strategy they have no red line
40:55no story line uh of their foreign and
40:58security policy towards Russia towards
41:02Ukraine um they have no strategy to end
41:05that and they don't have the military
41:07power right so they under spand the
41:10budget to
41:11Nato for actually for decades like for
41:16for a very long time like the average
41:18for instance of Germany because um the
41:21share of GDP is supposed to be 2% so
41:25Germany on average I think just like uh
41:28slightly above 1% so Germany didn't
41:31contribute but Germany is also not
41:35prudent um of the defendants of our own
41:39country so this is the second thing so
41:43uh we are we are we are completely
41:45dependent on the US but I think uh and
41:48I've listened to this very interesting
41:50uh speech of JD Vance um he said um he
41:55doesn't want to he doesn't want to have
41:57client states right yeah so he wants to
42:01have independent
42:04states who who all that also form their
42:09own independent opinion on things right
42:12so you you you for instance in your
42:15companies you don't want to be
42:17surrounded by yes people and by mediocre
42:20people right so me neither so I try to
42:24acquire absolutely yeah so I try to uh
42:27also I try to to to um to have uh the
42:31best people in my team uh and these best
42:34people they have the task to criticize
42:36me every day and I don't want to have
42:39yes Sayers right because you cannot
42:42learn so you have no mistake correction
42:46Sor I just say yes
42:48yes yes yes yes yes people no but but
42:54it's so but it's so important to yes no
42:57yeah
42:59yes um so yeah no absolutely I mean for
43:03say my companies like SpaceX and Tesla
43:05if you know if
43:07um if if we we we are constantly looking
43:09for critical feedback because if we make
43:11a mistake uh then the Rockets blow up
43:13and the cars don't work yeah so uh you
43:16know physics is is very unforgiving um
43:18you know there's you know I say like
43:20really physics is the law um and and and
43:23everything else is a recommendation
43:24because I've seen people break every
43:27kind of law but I haven't seen them
43:28break physics um and so if you don't get
43:31the design of the rocket and operation
43:33of the rocket exactly right and if even
43:35one thing is wrong the rocket explodes
43:38yeah so um you know that's I'm strong
43:40believer in seeking critical feedback
43:42and in fact I think critical feedback
43:43should be viewed as a
43:46gift
43:48yes
43:50absolutely yes um so no no no no but uh
43:54but uh um just uh just um um just to uh
43:58continue on that topic so um if you
44:02don't have that feedback loop so um your
44:06your rocket May explode right but here
44:09in this critical phase of this terrible
44:11war in uh in the um
44:14Ukraine uh many people may die due to
44:19the stupid policies that have been many
44:21people have died yeah indeed yeah um so
44:25well I mean let touch on some some uh
44:28maybe potential what people may view as
44:31hot mton uh issues like what are what
44:33are your views on
44:35Israel oh very complicated the more no
44:39no really
44:41like the more the more I read about the
44:45Middle East and the situation in Israel
44:47the more complicated it gets and to be
44:51honest I wanted to ask you um about a
44:54potential solution because to be honest
44:57like in my humble opinion I don't see a
45:01a a solution so maybe maybe uh um Israel
45:07um have to find some um um alliances
45:11with the Sunni States maybe if possible
45:15um and um yeah to be honest from my
45:19point of view like from my perspective
45:21it's a very complicated situation and I
45:25don't you know
45:27I'm not this person I'm not the
45:29politician um if you ask a question that
45:32I do this blah blah blah I really say
45:35what I think to to do honest uh U
45:39politics and to be honest I don't know
45:44um very like to be very Frank I don't
45:47know how to solve the conflict at this
45:50point in time and I hope maybe you have
45:52an answer on
45:54that sorry for for for being
45:57dissatisfactory but it's so complicated
46:00and um um I want to give pent answer and
46:03in case of Israel I don't know how to
46:06resolve this conflict to be
46:08honest uh well well I guess maybe
46:11another way to say it is uh do you unly
46:13support the existence of the state of
46:14Israel yes of course okay that's what
46:18people want to know yeah
46:21so asking questions that maybe seem very
46:24obvious but oh no no oh yeah
46:28oh yes now now I now I see was this
46:31question no absolutely yeah so uh so we
46:34need to protect the existence of Israel
46:38and we need to protect not only the
46:40existence of the state of
46:42Israel um I also think that Benjamin
46:45netan have made many mistakes in the
46:47past to be honest um but we also need um
46:52to take our responsibility as a German
46:54nation state to protect Jewish life
46:58Jewish people in our country who are
47:01exposed right now to uh to um to um um
47:07mus Muslim crime right so they are not
47:11safe here anymore so um you I don't know
47:16if you if you uh saw uh some videos
47:20here off the streets of Berlin I'm right
47:23now in my office in Berlin but uh like
47:26with all these demonstrations of the
47:29Palestinians here well um a Jew could
47:34not walk uh U um through the street
47:37anymore right and we have have a a huge
47:41potential of uh anti-semitic crime
47:45against uh uh the Jewish people and to
47:48be very Frank to be very Frank here the
47:53afd is the only protector and I'm saying
47:57that like very frankly the alternativa
48:01for dut land the afd is the only can
48:04only be the only protector of the Jewish
48:08people within here in Germany because
48:10the uni party all others
48:12parties they did exactly the opposite
48:15they let like millions of people in they
48:18let um um do let them do crimes on our
48:22streets like the crime rate are
48:25skyrocketing and so the Jewish people
48:28they leave our country when I when I
48:31talk to my Jewish friends who live in
48:34Germany and in Switzerland and in France
48:36and in Austria they were very afraid um
48:40um um after the Hamas attack on the 7th
48:44of October because uh they were they
48:47were they were um afraid that they um
48:50would likely to be attacked by um by
48:54Palestinians by Hamas supporters or by
48:57the antifa or by the leftish terrorists
49:00I don't know but they were very afraid
49:03very sensitive going on the streets and
49:06uh we we step up for this people even
49:10though the opposite in the mainstream
49:13media the opposite is
49:16claimed but this is this is this is not
49:19true it's just a is just a lie about our
49:24party yes I think that's that's what I
49:26wanted to just make it clear that uh
49:29that that afd is being massively
49:31misrepresented especially in the in the
49:33western media um so um yeah and you know
49:38and uh no I say I I very much support
49:41the state of Israel but I I mean I also
49:42believe that that we want to uh be uh
49:46Mindful and and have empathy for you
49:49know civilians uh who who are who are
49:51dying as well uh the you know when I've
49:54had conversations with prime minister
49:56and yaho and um and I think I think
49:59we're largely agreed I mean there's so
50:01there there's really there's three steps
50:03which is like you there's there's no
50:06choice but to um eliminate those who
50:09wish to eliminate the state of Israel um
50:13you know Moss essentially um but then uh
50:16and then the second step is to to fix
50:18the education so that uh you know people
50:21Palestinians are not trained from when
50:23they are children to to hate and want
50:27the death of Israel so you've got to fix
50:29the education system and and then the
50:31third thing which is also very important
50:33is to to make uh the pal Palestinian
50:36areas
50:37prosperous uh this is this third step is
50:40very important um and and this this this
50:42is maybe the hardest step uh which is uh
50:47but but you have to have that third step
50:48you have to uh bring Prosperity uh you
50:51have to help rebuild and you have to
50:52bring prosperity and I've had this
50:55conversation with with many people um in
50:57Israel I said that third step is is
51:00essential um true and and and they've
51:03asked me well when is this worked and
51:05I'm like well I'll give you a very big
51:06example um you know after World War I
51:10the the Treaty of asai was extremely
51:12unfair to Germany um and it it it
51:14created a massive amount of resentment
51:16and the the treat asai laid the
51:19foundation with its extreme reparations
51:22um for play the foundation called World
51:25War II um was without the Treaty of
51:27Versa Hitler would not have succeeded
51:29yes true and yes and and so and then but
51:33if you look at so so then the lesson was
51:34loarn so then after World War II um uh
51:38when Germany and Japan were defeated uh
51:42the US actually helped rebuild uh Japan
51:45and Germany providing financial support
51:48to rebuild Japan and Germany and now
51:50Japan and Germany are
51:52allies and and this is a very important
51:56and fundamental lesson of History yes
52:00you're absolutely right when um after
52:03the uh the Hamas attch um I um I just
52:09opened Google Maps to have a look okay
52:11uh what is the geographic situation
52:14there and when you see the Gaza
52:17stripe right it's a Gaza Strip which is
52:22just locked locked in um um with with no
52:27resources and not even uh water supplies
52:30so there can be cut off a water supply
52:33and uh and other supplies just like just
52:37just like
52:38instantaneously and uh this construction
52:42also like like just having a look like
52:45from uh from a geographic perspective
52:48you don't need to be very smart that
52:50this is this is not going to work out
52:53and um to make this area
52:57wealthy with uh with a specific measure
53:01being taking taken um it's a very vital
53:06First Step true yeah I think I think
53:09it's essential um and it requires uh
53:13overriding the natural human instinct
53:14for reciprocity which is that you know
53:17to basically an eye for an eye um you
53:19know but the problem with that an eye
53:21for an eye is that if you keep doing
53:23that an eye for an eye as the saying
53:24goes an ey for an eye makes everyone
53:26blind
53:27um that's why I think there's great
53:29wisdom to forgiveness yeah um you know
53:32you need both strength and forgiveness
53:35um but uh this this is the only way to
53:39stop the the endless cycle of
53:41violence it's a very nice uh nice
53:44sentence like um the eye forign eye
53:47makes uh makes everyone
53:50blind yeah exactly
53:53so um you so hopefully that that that
53:56can be the future um that's the best
53:58future I can think of I think any any
54:00there there's not some other future
54:02that's that that's that that
54:06works so um so how about uh may I ask
54:11you um um another question because uh we
54:15just um uh jumped topics uh what is your
54:19point of view so uh so um so um we
54:23stopped that um your Administration will
54:26end um the war in Ukraine very swiftly
54:31uh but um what is what is your
54:35perspective on the instruments and
54:37measures that could be taken so uh would
54:41you like to uh talk about it can you
54:43talk about it a little bit so what we
54:46could expect
54:48yeah well this to be clear I mean this
54:51this is up to president Trump you know
54:53um he is the the commander and chief um
54:58and uh so it's it's really uh you know
55:02you know up to him so um I I don't want
55:06I don't want to speak for him so but I
55:08but I just I do think that there's there
55:12there is a path here to a resolution and
55:15um but does require strong leadership uh
55:18in the United States uh in order to to
55:21get this done yeah um so yeah um
55:27but I'm confident that it can be done
55:30okay yeah yeah and I do think it's
55:32possible to have peace in the Middle
55:33East as well um these are these are
55:36possible so and I think that would be a
55:39great future for the world yeah so
55:42um
55:44yeah no great so it's absolutely Fair um
55:48so um so very very um fine with me um
55:56yeah yes well let's see are there any
55:58other topics we should discuss or if you
56:01have any questions for me or anything
56:04you because because uh because I want to
56:08ask and many people are interested in
56:10that so why do you believe um that uh
56:16flying to Mars and populating
56:19Mars is your top um priority uh uh topic
56:25is B X and when do you think uh when
56:30will you be ready to have a human
56:33expedition to to Mars if you if you
56:38allow if I may ask this question because
56:40everyone is interested so these are
56:42great projects
56:44right yeah um well I mean I I think at
56:49at a very high level I think sort of
56:52like what what set of actions um are
56:55going to to lead to the long-term uh
56:59prosperity of civilization um you know
57:03the sort of a growth in the scale and
57:06scope of Consciousness um you know the
57:09to to the best of our knowledge uh the
57:12there we we are the only place with with
57:15life or certainly the only place with
57:16life that that is intelligent in some
57:19form you a lot of people think oh there
57:21there must be aliens but I've not seen
57:23any evidence of aliens um and if the
57:27archaeological records are correct you
57:29know Earth is 4 and a half billion years
57:31old but civilization as measured from
57:34the first writing is only about 5,000
57:36years old which is about 1 millionth of
57:38Earth's existence so we're all of human
57:41civilization is a tiny flash in the van
57:44uh so far uh and so we have to say well
57:47what steps can we take to ensure the
57:50long-term survival of uh of of Life as
57:53We Know of Consciousness and if we are a
57:56multiplet species the probable lifespan
57:58of of Consciousness is dramatically
58:01greater than if we are a single planet
58:03species um this is not to say that I
58:06think that there's that Earth is about
58:08to die or anything like that but there
58:10is some risk um you know if there is if
58:13there is a global thermonuclear war or
58:15some extreme natural event like a giant
58:18you know meteor that hits the Earth uh
58:21that causes a mass extinction event I
58:23mean if we look at the fossil record
58:25there are at least five extreme mass
58:29extinction events uh that would have
58:31basically Extinction events that would
58:33have destroyed all of humanity
58:35completely um uh there's five of them at
58:38least um and so so I think if we we
58:44should take this opportunity today um
58:47because For the First Time In the four
58:49and a half billion year history of Earth
58:51it is possible to extend life and to to
58:53extend Consciousness beyond Earth
58:56and and that window of opportunity may
58:58be open for a short time or it may be
59:00open for a long time but just just in
59:02case uh it is it is open for a short
59:05time um we must take advantage of this
59:08window um and as quickly as possible
59:10become a multi-planet species um and
59:13ensure the long-term survival of
59:15civilization so what is your time frame
59:19um for
59:21a for a Expedition like for the first
59:24first human Expedition
59:29well yeah so to be clear the what
59:32matters is not so much the sort of flags
59:34and Footprints but the establishment of
59:37a self-sustaining City on Mars uh where
59:40the critical threshold is where the city
59:44can grow uh independent of Earth meaning
59:46if the resupply shifts from Earth stop
59:49coming from any reason um that the that
59:52the U the Mars colony does not die out
59:57um that that's if we are able to reach
59:59that point uh then uh we have we have
1:00:03passed one of the the very important and
1:00:06fundamental firy great filters um you
1:00:09know this there's this idea of like why
1:00:11don't we see evidence of of intelligence
1:00:14life well there that there this idea
1:00:18that there are these various great
1:00:19filters that that these civilizations
1:00:22never pass and one of those great
1:00:24filters is never never going Beyond home
1:00:26planet so if we can pass the F great
1:00:29filter of being a single planet species
1:00:32um and to be clear if we are a single
1:00:34kind of species it is just a matter of
1:00:36time before we are
1:00:38annihilated one can argue about how long
1:00:41it will take but eventually there will
1:00:43be something that happens that
1:00:45annihilates uh
1:00:47civilization um it might be very far in
1:00:50the future but we simply know from from
1:00:53the fossil record as I mentioned that
1:00:54there have been at least five Mass
1:00:56natural Extinction events and and I
1:00:58think there's there's added risk for
1:01:00humans that we could destroy ourselves
1:01:03um because the dinosaurs did not have uh
1:01:05thermonuclear weapons uh so they also
1:01:09didn't have spaceships um so so we've
1:01:12got uh we've got the risk of the of
1:01:16thermonuclear wall that could destroy
1:01:17everyone but we also have spaceships
1:01:19that can make life
1:01:21multiplanetary and um so the but with to
1:01:26answer your question more directly um I
1:01:28think we can send UNCW Starships to Mars
1:01:31in approximately two years so Earth and
1:01:34Mars are are to be Earth and Mars align
1:01:37for for planetary transfer roughly
1:01:41every every two years every 2 years ah
1:01:44two years yes so the Earth obviously
1:01:49takes a year to go around the Sun Mars
1:01:51takes approximately two years um and
1:01:54obviously one cannot go to Mars when it
1:01:56is on the other side of the Sun from
1:01:58Earth yeah U so we we have to wait for
1:02:01when Mars is in roughly the same
1:02:03quadrant of the uh solar system as Earth
1:02:07and that occurs uh uh for about six
1:02:10months every two years um and the
1:02:12optimal transfer window is typically
1:02:14just a few months so uh for a few months
1:02:18every two years or every 26 months uh
1:02:21you can you can transfer to M um so so
1:02:25we Curr there's currently a Ms trans
1:02:27transfer window which means that the
1:02:28next one is in two years from now um and
1:02:32then there'll be another one two years
1:02:34after that so for the one in two years I
1:02:36think we can send uncrewed Starships to
1:02:38l m to you to test that we The Landing
1:02:42systems are working properly
1:02:46um we want to make sure that we don't um
1:02:48you know add add more crators to Mars
1:02:52um yeah that would be the
1:02:57uh yeah the trater count increment must
1:03:01be zero um and so once we prove that it
1:03:06is safe to land then um if if like if
1:03:09all the shifts we send in about two
1:03:10years land safely uh and we think we
1:03:13understand the issues then in in
1:03:15principle that in about four years you
1:03:17could send the first uh people um and
1:03:20then it then the number of ships can
1:03:23expand exponentially from the from that
1:03:25point
1:03:26um I mean as as a rough order of
1:03:28magnitude my guess is that uh we need to
1:03:32transport about Mill about a million
1:03:34tons of cargo uh to Mars to make it s
1:03:38sustaining um you know when things are
1:03:40very uncertain I think if you can even
1:03:42guess to within one order of magnitude
1:03:44are doing quite well um so I suspect
1:03:46probably 100,000 tons is maybe not
1:03:48enough and hopefully we don't need 10
1:03:50million tons so therefore my guess is
1:03:53hopefully a million tons is enough to
1:03:55make Wass
1:03:56self-sustaining so maybe it's a million
1:03:58tons of cargo to S Mars and about you
1:04:01know a million people or more um so
1:04:05that's that's really what matters the
1:04:07the critical threshold from the
1:04:08standpoint of of a fundamental uh
1:04:11branching of the future of civilization
1:04:14uh is is is that that point of reaching
1:04:17on Mars where uh Mars can grow by itself
1:04:21even if uh resupply ships from Earth
1:04:23stop coming at that point the future of
1:04:26civilization branches and to a good
1:04:29Branch wow um and probable lifespan of
1:04:32civilization is dramatically greater yes
1:04:35and and my guess is that that there will
1:04:37be cases where the the the future
1:04:40martians actually come and help and
1:04:42rescue Earth and you know when there is
1:04:44an emergency um you know just as America
1:04:47has helped to to rescue the rest of the
1:04:50world in World War I and two and uh and
1:04:52the Cold War um and you know where would
1:04:55the world be if if not for America
1:04:57helping out in those three
1:05:00circumstances so so my I think that
1:05:03there's a good chance Mars helps save
1:05:04Earth at some point in the future maybe
1:05:06many times and then once we have uh a a
1:05:10civilization on Mars we can expand to
1:05:12the rest of the solar system uh to the
1:05:15uh you know the larger asteroids like
1:05:19SES maybe to the moons of Jupiter and
1:05:22Saturn and Beyond at least through the
1:05:24rest of the solar system and
1:05:26then you know and then we go from being
1:05:29hopefully a multiplet civilization to at
1:05:32some point a multi- stellar civilization
1:05:34and we're out there Among the Stars um
1:05:37and uh and then we can try to find out
1:05:39what is the nature of the universe uh
1:05:44you know Perhaps Perhaps when we go to
1:05:46and visit these far away star systems we
1:05:49will discover the remains of long dead
1:05:52alien
1:05:53civilizations I think that would be
1:05:55incredible interesting for sure it will
1:05:57greatly improve our understanding of the
1:05:59nature of the universe absolutely yes so
1:06:04and and and things like the time scales
1:06:05are just remarkable to think about um I
1:06:08mean physics uh suggests that the
1:06:10universe is about 13.8 billion years old
1:06:13um and um I mean even the elements in
1:06:16our body that aren't hydrogen
1:06:20um like any heavier elements had to be
1:06:23formed in um in the center of a star and
1:06:27so the you know the a large part of our
1:06:29body was actually formed in the in the
1:06:32center of a star and that star exploded
1:06:34and then the elements recondensed um
1:06:37ultimately billions of years later to um
1:06:41form Earth and
1:06:43humans so but so when you think about
1:06:46these time scales they were really
1:06:47remarkable to think about um yeah and
1:06:51but a civilization that lasted a million
1:06:53years so our civilization you know like
1:06:55so I think a good metric for saying what
1:06:58when does a civilization start I think
1:07:00is maybe writing you know that's if you
1:07:03can pick anything I'd pick that that's
1:07:05only 5,000 years ago
1:07:07so um so for a civilization like let's
1:07:10say last an incremental million years
1:07:13that that's an enormous amount of
1:07:15crime as compared to the length of human
1:07:18civilization but it's very small
1:07:20compared to the age of the Universe um
1:07:23you'd have to go three digits past the
1:07:25decimal point of 13.8 million years just
1:07:27to increment 1 million
1:07:29years so so I think we may find when we
1:07:33go out there and explore these star
1:07:34systems that that there were alien
1:07:36civilizations maybe they lasted for
1:07:37millions of years much longer than we've
1:07:40lasted um and and I any civilization
1:07:43that can last a million years is going
1:07:45to be in the Hall of Fame this is this
1:07:47an incredibly long time um so anyway and
1:07:52I think as you know for Humanity we
1:07:54don't want to be one of those lame One
1:07:56Planet civilizations like you know any
1:07:59self-respecting civilization should have
1:08:01at least two planets um so that's um
1:08:05that's what we should aim for Wow uh if
1:08:09you so so you just said that um um the
1:08:13uh the human body comprises of elements
1:08:16of an exploded and then uh re reordered
1:08:20um elements right so do you uh do do you
1:08:25think that this um coincidentally
1:08:28happened or do you believe in
1:08:30God I'm just curious because because
1:08:34because many people say okay this cannot
1:08:37have been a
1:08:39coincidence um that cannot right so uh
1:08:43so it
1:08:44just could have been um God so do you
1:08:47believe in
1:08:49god well I'm I'm open to believing in
1:08:53things proportionate to the information
1:08:56that I receive so um so I mean I I guess
1:09:00I have sort of a physics view of reality
1:09:03uh which is you know uh you know I guess
1:09:08I'm trying to I'm trying to understand
1:09:10the universe as much as possible to
1:09:11understand what's going on I I'm
1:09:14certainly open to the idea of God and if
1:09:16you say like well where did the universe
1:09:18come from U how is it created
1:09:22um I suppose there would be some entity
1:09:25that
1:09:27that you could call God I I that would I
1:09:30don't
1:09:31know but but there's that's a separate
1:09:33question from say is is there some
1:09:35entity that is observing our daily
1:09:37actions and rendering rendering a moral
1:09:40verdict on what we do from day to day um
1:09:43that doesn't appear to be the case
1:09:45because you know at least that there's
1:09:47some very evil things that happen in the
1:09:49world and
1:09:50if if there's someone observing us on a
1:09:52moral basis continually then it it does
1:09:55seem odd that uh some very evil things
1:09:58are allowed to occur um but but maybe
1:10:02that is the case I I don't know I I just
1:10:04I try to um form my opinions based on
1:10:06what I learn and as I learn more I
1:10:09aspire to change my views to match what
1:10:12I
1:10:14learned yeah same here to be honest um
1:10:19I'm still on a search and I I don't know
1:10:23what to believe um um so it's called
1:10:26maybe a
1:10:28agnostic and um yeah um but it's very
1:10:32interesting to see how how the world and
1:10:35also the universe
1:10:38evolved um and um yeah it was it was
1:10:41incredibly interesting to listen to your
1:10:44Visions um and um yeah it's it's quite a
1:10:48vision for for for every one of
1:10:51us yeah I would say that what I have is
1:10:54a philosophy of curiosity
1:10:56uh so I'm I'm curious about the nature
1:10:57of the universe and um I would say I
1:11:01subscrib to the Douglas Adams School of
1:11:03philosophy that was described in the
1:11:05hitag as gu of the Galaxy um you know um
1:11:09and um you in that book the Earth was
1:11:11sort of a giant computer that was trying
1:11:13to answer the question what is the
1:11:15meaning of life um and then it comes
1:11:18back with the 40 42 and and they're like
1:11:21what does 42 mean and it's well it's
1:11:24actually the the answer is the easy part
1:11:26and the question is the hard part um so
1:11:30uh you know that was actually quite uh
1:11:33an Illuminating thing for me because I
1:11:35had sort of an existential crisis when I
1:11:37was I 12 or 13 about the meaning of life
1:11:40and you know I read I read
1:11:42many the religious texts and the books
1:11:45on
1:11:46philosophy um you know I was like
1:11:48reading sh aronia and whatnot uh which
1:11:51is a bit depressing if you're to read as
1:11:52a child um but you
1:11:57ultimately why do they're they're a bit
1:12:01negative um so uh at times you know um
1:12:06it's it's actually it makes more sense
1:12:07reading it as an adult but uh but then I
1:12:10I read the H Guide to the Galaxy which
1:12:12is really a book in philosophy in the
1:12:14form of humor and um and I think it kind
1:12:16of really illust that that I thought was
1:12:20very insightful uh that that we should
1:12:24basically try to understand that nature
1:12:25of the universe and in fact understand
1:12:28even what questions to ask about the
1:12:29answer that is the universe and so that
1:12:32led me to conclude that we should aspire
1:12:35to uh expand the scope and scale of
1:12:38Consciousness so that we're better able
1:12:41to to know what questions to ask about
1:12:44the nature about the answer that is the
1:12:46Universe um so we we should just seem to
1:12:50you take the set of actions that lead to
1:12:52a greater understanding uh of the
1:12:56universe
1:12:58wonderful actually these are these are
1:13:01perfect um last words to be honest for
1:13:04our conversation because because because
1:13:07I don't know right now like uh what to
1:13:10uh what to continue because these no
1:13:14really because these words are so
1:13:16beautiful so I would just like uh screw
1:13:19it up and um it was wonderful it was
1:13:23very it was wonderful talking to you and
1:13:26uh and listening to your views um of
1:13:30mankind and also to to to have idea of
1:13:33your vision it's very Visionary and um
1:13:37yeah thank you so much thank you well
1:13:40it's it's been a pleasure speaking and I
1:13:41hope people listen to this conversation
1:13:43and find it helpful um all right thanks
1:13:48everyone thank you everyone thank
1:13:53you bye okay

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