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Alex Hormozi's Advice for Marketing Agencies — Transcript

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  1. 0:00SMBs suck as customers. Obviously, a lot
  2. 0:02of marketers follow my stuff, and so I
  3. 0:03get a disproportionate amount of
  4. 0:04marketing agencies, and I've seen every
  5. 0:05model under the sun. You have to do
  6. 0:06this, one or the other. Your price
  7. 0:08either goes up and you serve a higher
  8. 0:10level avatar, or it goes down and you
  9. 0:12serve the one you are now, but you make
  10. 0:13sure that your delivery is almost
  11. 0:14nothing.
  12. 0:15>> That's harsh. It's also mostly right. A
  13. 0:16lot of agency owners are selling
  14. 0:18low-priced work that still needs
  15. 0:19high-touch service, and then trying to
  16. 0:21fix the margin by adding more clients.
  17. 0:23That doesn't fix it. It just spreads the
  18. 0:25same problem across more people. I've
  19. 0:27built two seven-figure agencies of my
  20. 0:29own and consulted over 75 others, and
  21. 0:31I've been on the exact side of this
  22. 0:33trademark Hermosi is describing. My
  23. 0:35second agency went the small and
  24. 0:36medium-sized business route. At our
  25. 0:38peak, we had over 100 active clients and
  26. 0:39a team of 12 handling it all. And that
  27. 0:41worked for one reason, my back end was
  28. 0:43productized. If we tried to deliver
  29. 0:45custom work to over 100 small
  30. 0:47businesses, it would have collapsed
  31. 0:48inside a month, and I'd be the one
  32. 0:49absorbing it. So, I'm going to play you
  33. 0:51five clips of Hermosi's advice. After
  34. 0:53each one, I'll show you how I'd apply
  35. 0:54inside an agency and where I'd push
  36. 0:56back. Because the first three decisions
  37. 0:57you have to make as an agency owner are
  38. 0:59all sitting inside that first clip. Who
  39. 1:01are you serving? What can you charge
  40. 1:03them? And what can your team actually
  41. 1:04deliver at that price? Let's start
  42. 1:06there.
  43. 1:09Here's what he's actually saying in
  44. 1:11agency terms. You can serve a smaller
  45. 1:13buyer with a productized low-touch
  46. 1:15service, or you can serve a higher value
  47. 1:17buyer at a price with enough margin in
  48. 1:19it for real support. Both of these work.
  49. 1:21What doesn't work is the middle, low
  50. 1:22fees with custom delivery. That's where
  51. 1:24most struggling agencies live, and it
  52. 1:26creates a capacity problem before you've
  53. 1:28even started growing. Now, here's where
  54. 1:29I'd add something. Those aren't the only
  55. 1:31two models, and I don't think the small
  56. 1:32business route is the wrong one. Yes,
  57. 1:34small and medium-sized businesses are
  58. 1:36generally more of a pain in terms of
  59. 1:37client management. That's just true, but
  60. 1:39there are a lot more of them, and as a
  61. 1:41newer agency owner, you usually can't
  62. 1:42walk straight into working with whale
  63. 1:44clients anyway. You don't have the proof
  64. 1:45yet. And the other end has its own risks
  65. 1:47that people don't talk about. You're
  66. 1:49working with established business owners
  67. 1:50at a high price with a small number of
  68. 1:52clients, losing one client can be a 25%
  69. 1:55drop in revenue. Those clients are also
  70. 1:57not easily replaceable. You don't just
  71. 1:59go find another one next week. So, there
  72. 2:01are real pros and cons either direction
  73. 2:03you go. There's also a hybrid version I
  74. 2:04like a lot. Run your core offer for
  75. 2:06established larger businesses with
  76. 2:08robust fulfillment behind it, and then
  77. 2:10you build a more productized simpler
  78. 2:12downsell for the smaller businesses who
  79. 2:14aren't ready for your high-ticket
  80. 2:15done-for-you offer. Maybe that's a
  81. 2:17do-it-yourself or a done-with-you
  82. 2:18version. Now, you have something to sell
  83. 2:20to almost everybody who books a call
  84. 2:22instead of turning away half your
  85. 2:23pipeline. But, whichever one you pick,
  86. 2:25run this test on it. Take your price and
  87. 2:27subtract everything the client actually
  88. 2:28costs you based on how many clients you
  89. 2:30currently have. Your overhead and
  90. 2:32include any extra cost for if things go
  91. 2:34south. If there's no profit, the model
  92. 2:35is obviously broken, and no amount of
  93. 2:37lead generation fixes a broken model.
  94. 2:39So, here's the decision I'd leave you
  95. 2:41with. Could your team fulfill on 10 more
  96. 2:42clients right now without you absorbing
  97. 2:44the extra work yourself? If the answer
  98. 2:46is no, you have to change the avatar,
  99. 2:48the scope, the price, or the delivery
  100. 2:50model. Do that before you go out and
  101. 2:52promise a bigger result. Once the offer
  102. 2:53and the delivery model agree, the next
  103. 2:55question is what a buyer should actually
  104. 2:57see before you ask them to book a call.
  105. 3:02>> So, most people send traffic to their
  106. 3:03website and immediately ask people to
  107. 3:05buy something or just like submit for a
  108. 3:07quote. But, here's the problem. Like,
  109. 3:08most visitors aren't ready to buy yet,
  110. 3:10and so they just leave and they never
  111. 3:12come back.
  112. 3:12>> He's right about the problem. If you
  113. 3:14send a cold visitor straight to book a
  114. 3:15call, you lose almost everybody who's
  115. 3:17interested but not ready to sit across
  116. 3:19from a salesperson yet. But, here's
  117. 3:20where I'd push back a little or at least
  118. 3:22simplify it. Most agency owners will
  119. 3:24hear this and maybe they go build a lead
  120. 3:25magnet, PDF, a funnel, an email
  121. 3:27sequence, a landing page, and then 6
  122. 3:29weeks later they still haven't launched
  123. 3:31it. In my opinion, the easiest shift and
  124. 3:33the one that converts better right away
  125. 3:35is just repositioning the call itself.
  126. 3:37Instead of book a call, make it schedule
  127. 3:39a free consultation. That's it. That's
  128. 3:41the change. You're doing a discovery
  129. 3:42process on that call anyway, so just
  130. 3:44provide some real value while you're
  131. 3:46doing it. Now, you've got an actual
  132. 3:48opportunity to build some trust, and
  133. 3:49only then do you shift into the pitch.
  134. 3:51This goes over a lot better. And then my
  135. 3:53second favorite option is repositioning
  136. 3:55the call as a free audit of some kind.
  137. 3:57If you're an AEO agency, offer a free AI
  138. 4:00visibility scan. If you're an ad agency,
  139. 4:02offer a free ad account audit. What I
  140. 4:03like about both of these is how simple
  141. 4:05they are to implement. You're simply
  142. 4:06changing book a call to get a free audit
  143. 4:08or schedule a free consultation.
  144. 4:10Literally will take you 2 minutes. Now,
  145. 4:12the tricky part is that you have to
  146. 4:13orchestrate the call differently once
  147. 4:15you've done that. You can't promise an
  148. 4:16audit and then open with a pitch. So,
  149. 4:18the first 10 to 15 minutes you actually
  150. 4:20deliver it. You do the audit, you do the
  151. 4:22consultation, then you can shift into
  152. 4:24your offer. And what I found is that
  153. 4:25when you go this route, people will
  154. 4:27often literally ask you about your paid
  155. 4:28services. They'll literally bring it up
  156. 4:30for you, and that's a completely
  157. 4:31different conversation than you
  158. 4:33pitching, pitching, pitching at somebody
  159. 4:34who isn't even interested. That's
  160. 4:36reciprocity doing the work. If you give
  161. 4:38somebody something first, they feel more
  162. 4:40inclined to give something back. Now,
  163. 4:42there are two things to keep in mind if
  164. 4:43you build this. Pick one channel to
  165. 4:45start running it on based on where your
  166. 4:47buyer actually is and what you're
  167. 4:48actually good at. Not four hypothetical
  168. 4:50campaigns you're going to test at once.
  169. 4:52And track enough to inspect it. How many
  170. 4:54people landed, how many booked, how many
  171. 4:56showed, how many were actually
  172. 4:58qualified, and ultimately how many
  173. 4:59closed. Keep a note on why you rejected
  174. 5:01the ones you rejected because that's
  175. 5:03your qualification data. The point of
  176. 5:05the audit isn't to collect email
  177. 5:06addresses, it's to make the next
  178. 5:08conversation warmer and more specific
  179. 5:10than it would have been. A useful first
  180. 5:11step can create a much warmer
  181. 5:13conversation. The sales process still
  182. 5:15has to match how much the prospect
  183. 5:17already knows and whether you can
  184. 5:18actually help them.
  185. 5:22>> To me, this looks like a warm process,
  186. 5:24not a cold process. Uh cuz someone just
  187. 5:26getting on the phone having a phone call
  188. 5:28in then 15 minutes to 10K a year,
  189. 5:30they've got to know something about you,
  190. 5:32most likely, in order to make that
  191. 5:34purchase here.
  192. 5:34>> Completely agree with this one, and
  193. 5:36every agency owner already knows it even
  194. 5:38if they've never put it into words. The
  195. 5:39clearest version of this is the
  196. 5:40difference between a call that came from
  197. 5:42a referral and a call that came from
  198. 5:43cold outbound. The referral is warm.
  199. 5:45They already trust you because somebody
  200. 5:47they trust recommended you. You can
  201. 5:49basically get on a quick call and close
  202. 5:50out the deal. Not much convincing
  203. 5:52required. Now, cold outbound is a
  204. 5:54completely different story. That person
  205. 5:55doesn't know you, hasn't seen your work,
  206. 5:57and didn't even ask for this. To win
  207. 5:59that deal, you need a proper sales demo
  208. 6:01framework in place. And honestly, you
  209. 6:03need a stronger offer, too. Because the
  210. 6:04offer is doing more of the heavy lifting
  211. 6:06in this scenario. So, here's my rule on
  212. 6:08this. Build your sales process around
  213. 6:10being able to handle cold traffic. You
  214. 6:12can always adjust down for a warm deal
  215. 6:14that's easy to close. It's very hard to
  216. 6:15go the other direction. If you are only
  217. 6:17prepared for warm referrals, and then a
  218. 6:19cold lead lands on your calendar, you'll
  219. 6:21be missing a lot of good opportunities.
  220. 6:23What changes between warm and cold is
  221. 6:24your closing call demo framework. What
  222. 6:26does not change is your standard for a
  223. 6:28good fit. And I want to specify
  224. 6:29something because qualification gets
  225. 6:31misused quite often. It shouldn't be
  226. 6:33manufactured scarcity. You're not
  227. 6:34pretending to be selective to make
  228. 6:36people want it. You're truly figuring
  229. 6:38out whether you can responsibly help
  230. 6:39this person. For my ad agency, the
  231. 6:41conditions that genuinely affected the
  232. 6:42results were things like does their
  233. 6:44offer have proof of concept? Can they
  234. 6:46handle the volume we send them? Do they
  235. 6:48have experience in sales? And is there
  236. 6:50enough budget to get real data on their
  237. 6:52campaign? Here are some simple questions
  238. 6:53you'd want to ask. What outcome are you
  239. 6:55actually after? Why now? What have you
  240. 6:57already tried? What's it costing you to
  241. 6:59leave this alone? What would make you
  242. 7:01confident enough to move forward? And
  243. 7:02these questions also translate into
  244. 7:04information that will help you close the
  245. 7:06sale. From there, you'll get a good
  246. 7:07enough idea on whether or not they're a
  247. 7:09good fit for the program. And if the
  248. 7:11results depend on variables you don't
  249. 7:12control, don't hide that inside a
  250. 7:14guarantee. Make sure it's aligned. You
  251. 7:16don't want to end up needing to refund
  252. 7:17them in 3 months. Quick pause because
  253. 7:19this is where a lot of agency owners get
  254. 7:21stuck. When you look at the whole front
  255. 7:22end of an agency, the first visible
  256. 7:24problem usually isn't the real
  257. 7:25constraint. You'll think that you need
  258. 7:27more leads when the actual issue is that
  259. 7:29your calls are failing. Or you'll blame
  260. 7:30the closer when your offer is attracting
  261. 7:32the wrong buyer entirely. That's the
  262. 7:34kind of thing we work through on a quick
  263. 7:35consultation. We look at your offer,
  264. 7:37your lead generation, your sales
  265. 7:39process, and your delivery as one
  266. 7:40system. So, we can figure out which
  267. 7:42constraint is actually holding you back
  268. 7:44and what to fix first. If you'd like us
  269. 7:46to look at yours, you can apply through
  270. 7:47the link below. All right, once the
  271. 7:49sales process matches the buyer, the
  272. 7:51next question is whether you even have
  273. 7:52capacity to deliver on what you just
  274. 7:54sold.
  275. 7:58>> When you are supply constrained, you can
  276. 8:00either [music]
  277. 8:00raise the price, so fewer people buy and
  278. 8:03the people who buy you get paid more
  279. 8:04for, or
  280. 8:06you change the ratio of delivery,
  281. 8:08meaning you go from one-on-one
  282. 8:10to one-on-four to one-on-six to
  283. 8:11one-to-many, or you productize, or you
  284. 8:15hire people.
  285. 8:16>> Those four levers are right, and I'd add
  286. 8:18that most agency owners never get to
  287. 8:19choose between them because of they're
  288. 8:21stuck underneath the problem. What I see
  289. 8:23constantly is the owner trapped in the
  290. 8:24fulfillment work. They're the one
  291. 8:26building the campaigns, writing the
  292. 8:28copy, running the calls, and that limits
  293. 8:30the entire business because now the
  294. 8:31ceiling on the agency is however many
  295. 8:33hours the one person has. For an agency,
  296. 8:35the general path forward is productizing
  297. 8:38the offer. That means building systems,
  298. 8:40leveraging AI, creating SOPs,
  299. 8:42implementing automations, and hiring.
  300. 8:44And I'd change the order Hermosi implies
  301. 8:46there at least for right now. Research
  302. 8:48the AI implementation first. More and
  303. 8:50more agency tasks can genuinely be
  304. 8:52handled by AI at this point, and it's
  305. 8:54usually the cheapest and fastest of
  306. 8:55those four levers. Look there before you
  307. 8:57go post a job. Now, here's where I'd
  308. 8:59push back on how people execute this.
  309. 9:01Productizing is supposed to remove
  310. 9:03avoidable variation. It's not supposed
  311. 9:05to strip out the judgment your clients
  312. 9:06are actually paying for. There's a big
  313. 9:08difference between systemizing how a
  314. 9:10campaign gets launched and having nobody
  315. 9:11experienced ever look at the account.
  316. 9:14Clients can feel the second one, and
  317. 9:15they leave. So, map your agency's client
  318. 9:17experience out. Onboarding, fulfillment,
  319. 9:19support, reporting, then separate the
  320. 9:22work that's genuinely repeatable from
  321. 9:23the decisions that still need somebody
  322. 9:25who knows what they're doing. Then pick
  323. 9:27the one lever that fits your actual
  324. 9:28constraint. One, don't try to raise your
  325. 9:31price, productize, and hire in the same
  326. 9:33month because then you won't know which
  327. 9:34one moved the needle. Whatever you end
  328. 9:36up implementing can be monitored over
  329. 9:37time to ensure it's working as designed.
  330. 9:39And there's two more things worth saying
  331. 9:41about this. Once your productized,
  332. 9:43you're just running a more efficient
  333. 9:44operation, which means more clients can
  334. 9:46come in without a drop in quality.
  335. 9:48That's the whole idea of this. But it's
  336. 9:49also about margins. Productizing isn't
  337. 9:52only a capacity play. Done right, it's
  338. 9:53what lets you keep healthy margins as
  339. 9:55you scale instead of watching it shrink
  340. 9:57every time you add a client. Before you
  341. 9:59accept another sale, run the capacity
  342. 10:00check. If you don't feel confident you
  343. 10:02can bring on another 10 clients with
  344. 10:04ease, well, now you have something new
  345. 10:05to focus on. After the delivery model
  346. 10:07can handle more clients, the remaining
  347. 10:09constraint is usually the owner's own
  348. 10:10time.
  349. 10:14>> Cuz what it's going to do is give you
  350. 10:15full transparency into where your time
  351. 10:17is going. It's a is there a process, a
  352. 10:20person, or project that I need to
  353. 10:22create?
  354. 10:23>> Strongly agree with all of that. You
  355. 10:24can't remove a bottleneck you've never
  356. 10:26really observed. But I think Hormozi
  357. 10:28missed something here, and it's a big
  358. 10:29one in 2026. Hormozi says process,
  359. 10:31person, or project. But there's a fourth
  360. 10:33question now, and I'd ask it before all
  361. 10:35of the other three. Can AI do this?
  362. 10:37That's genuinely a different answer than
  363. 10:39it even was a year ago. It's usually
  364. 10:41cheaper and faster than hiring somebody.
  365. 10:43If you skip that question, you'll end up
  366. 10:44making a hire for something that didn't
  367. 10:46even need a human at all. And this is
  368. 10:47exactly why I have all of my mentees run
  369. 10:50what I call a task audit. You start by
  370. 10:51documenting where all of your time is
  371. 10:53actually going. Every task, every
  372. 10:55recurring decision, everything that's
  373. 10:57eating into your week. You do that first
  374. 10:59before you build anything because most
  375. 11:00owners are wrong about where their time
  376. 11:02is going. Then you build the proper
  377. 11:03system or make the proper hire behind
  378. 11:05each task. Now, there's an order to this
  379. 11:07that matters, and it's specific to
  380. 11:09agencies. You want to get yourself out
  381. 11:10of the fulfillment first. Then, once
  382. 11:12you're past about 30K per month, you can
  383. 11:14slowly start worrying about removing
  384. 11:15yourself from sales, not before that.
  385. 11:17Sales is usually the last thing you
  386. 11:19should hand off because early on, you're
  387. 11:21the best closer you have, and you're
  388. 11:22also the one learning the most from the
  389. 11:24calls. And one more caution here, don't
  390. 11:26start this by delegating the most
  391. 11:27integral operations within your agency.
  392. 11:30Start with something recurring and lower
  393. 11:31risk that still waits on you. For
  394. 11:33whatever you pick, document the input,
  395. 11:35the decision rule, the output, the
  396. 11:37quality check, and the condition that
  397. 11:38brings it back to you. Then let the
  398. 11:40person actually do it on live work while
  399. 11:42you watch. Inspect the result, improve
  400. 11:44the process, then move to the next one.
  401. 11:46And after you hand something off, look
  402. 11:48at the agency again because the
  403. 11:50constraint will move. It might land back
  404. 11:51on acquisition or sales or delivery.
  405. 11:54That's not a failure, that's what
  406. 11:55progress looks like. So, if you want a
  407. 11:5630-day version of the whole video,
  408. 11:58here's the order. Align your offering
  409. 12:00your delivery model, lean into one lead
  410. 12:02generation method, inspect your
  411. 12:04qualification, stabilize delivery, then
  412. 12:06transfer one decision off your plate. Do
  413. 12:08it in that order and you'll stop working
  414. 12:10on the loudest problems and start
  415. 12:11finding what the real problems are. Now,
  416. 12:13if this audit told you that qualified
  417. 12:15opportunities are the immediate
  418. 12:16constraint in your agency, the next
  419. 12:18thing you should watch is the best lead
  420. 12:20generation strategy for agencies in
  421. 12:212026. In that one, I break down how to
  422. 12:24choose one lead system and figure out
  423. 12:25why it is or isn't booking you qualified
  424. 12:27calls. It's on screen now and I'm
  425. 12:29looking forward to seeing you there.

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