Alex Hormozi's Advice for Marketing Agencies — Transcript
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- 0:00SMBs suck as customers. Obviously, a lot
- 0:02of marketers follow my stuff, and so I
- 0:03get a disproportionate amount of
- 0:04marketing agencies, and I've seen every
- 0:05model under the sun. You have to do
- 0:06this, one or the other. Your price
- 0:08either goes up and you serve a higher
- 0:10level avatar, or it goes down and you
- 0:12serve the one you are now, but you make
- 0:13sure that your delivery is almost
- 0:14nothing.
- 0:15>> That's harsh. It's also mostly right. A
- 0:16lot of agency owners are selling
- 0:18low-priced work that still needs
- 0:19high-touch service, and then trying to
- 0:21fix the margin by adding more clients.
- 0:23That doesn't fix it. It just spreads the
- 0:25same problem across more people. I've
- 0:27built two seven-figure agencies of my
- 0:29own and consulted over 75 others, and
- 0:31I've been on the exact side of this
- 0:33trademark Hermosi is describing. My
- 0:35second agency went the small and
- 0:36medium-sized business route. At our
- 0:38peak, we had over 100 active clients and
- 0:39a team of 12 handling it all. And that
- 0:41worked for one reason, my back end was
- 0:43productized. If we tried to deliver
- 0:45custom work to over 100 small
- 0:47businesses, it would have collapsed
- 0:48inside a month, and I'd be the one
- 0:49absorbing it. So, I'm going to play you
- 0:51five clips of Hermosi's advice. After
- 0:53each one, I'll show you how I'd apply
- 0:54inside an agency and where I'd push
- 0:56back. Because the first three decisions
- 0:57you have to make as an agency owner are
- 0:59all sitting inside that first clip. Who
- 1:01are you serving? What can you charge
- 1:03them? And what can your team actually
- 1:04deliver at that price? Let's start
- 1:06there.
- 1:09Here's what he's actually saying in
- 1:11agency terms. You can serve a smaller
- 1:13buyer with a productized low-touch
- 1:15service, or you can serve a higher value
- 1:17buyer at a price with enough margin in
- 1:19it for real support. Both of these work.
- 1:21What doesn't work is the middle, low
- 1:22fees with custom delivery. That's where
- 1:24most struggling agencies live, and it
- 1:26creates a capacity problem before you've
- 1:28even started growing. Now, here's where
- 1:29I'd add something. Those aren't the only
- 1:31two models, and I don't think the small
- 1:32business route is the wrong one. Yes,
- 1:34small and medium-sized businesses are
- 1:36generally more of a pain in terms of
- 1:37client management. That's just true, but
- 1:39there are a lot more of them, and as a
- 1:41newer agency owner, you usually can't
- 1:42walk straight into working with whale
- 1:44clients anyway. You don't have the proof
- 1:45yet. And the other end has its own risks
- 1:47that people don't talk about. You're
- 1:49working with established business owners
- 1:50at a high price with a small number of
- 1:52clients, losing one client can be a 25%
- 1:55drop in revenue. Those clients are also
- 1:57not easily replaceable. You don't just
- 1:59go find another one next week. So, there
- 2:01are real pros and cons either direction
- 2:03you go. There's also a hybrid version I
- 2:04like a lot. Run your core offer for
- 2:06established larger businesses with
- 2:08robust fulfillment behind it, and then
- 2:10you build a more productized simpler
- 2:12downsell for the smaller businesses who
- 2:14aren't ready for your high-ticket
- 2:15done-for-you offer. Maybe that's a
- 2:17do-it-yourself or a done-with-you
- 2:18version. Now, you have something to sell
- 2:20to almost everybody who books a call
- 2:22instead of turning away half your
- 2:23pipeline. But, whichever one you pick,
- 2:25run this test on it. Take your price and
- 2:27subtract everything the client actually
- 2:28costs you based on how many clients you
- 2:30currently have. Your overhead and
- 2:32include any extra cost for if things go
- 2:34south. If there's no profit, the model
- 2:35is obviously broken, and no amount of
- 2:37lead generation fixes a broken model.
- 2:39So, here's the decision I'd leave you
- 2:41with. Could your team fulfill on 10 more
- 2:42clients right now without you absorbing
- 2:44the extra work yourself? If the answer
- 2:46is no, you have to change the avatar,
- 2:48the scope, the price, or the delivery
- 2:50model. Do that before you go out and
- 2:52promise a bigger result. Once the offer
- 2:53and the delivery model agree, the next
- 2:55question is what a buyer should actually
- 2:57see before you ask them to book a call.
- 3:02>> So, most people send traffic to their
- 3:03website and immediately ask people to
- 3:05buy something or just like submit for a
- 3:07quote. But, here's the problem. Like,
- 3:08most visitors aren't ready to buy yet,
- 3:10and so they just leave and they never
- 3:12come back.
- 3:12>> He's right about the problem. If you
- 3:14send a cold visitor straight to book a
- 3:15call, you lose almost everybody who's
- 3:17interested but not ready to sit across
- 3:19from a salesperson yet. But, here's
- 3:20where I'd push back a little or at least
- 3:22simplify it. Most agency owners will
- 3:24hear this and maybe they go build a lead
- 3:25magnet, PDF, a funnel, an email
- 3:27sequence, a landing page, and then 6
- 3:29weeks later they still haven't launched
- 3:31it. In my opinion, the easiest shift and
- 3:33the one that converts better right away
- 3:35is just repositioning the call itself.
- 3:37Instead of book a call, make it schedule
- 3:39a free consultation. That's it. That's
- 3:41the change. You're doing a discovery
- 3:42process on that call anyway, so just
- 3:44provide some real value while you're
- 3:46doing it. Now, you've got an actual
- 3:48opportunity to build some trust, and
- 3:49only then do you shift into the pitch.
- 3:51This goes over a lot better. And then my
- 3:53second favorite option is repositioning
- 3:55the call as a free audit of some kind.
- 3:57If you're an AEO agency, offer a free AI
- 4:00visibility scan. If you're an ad agency,
- 4:02offer a free ad account audit. What I
- 4:03like about both of these is how simple
- 4:05they are to implement. You're simply
- 4:06changing book a call to get a free audit
- 4:08or schedule a free consultation.
- 4:10Literally will take you 2 minutes. Now,
- 4:12the tricky part is that you have to
- 4:13orchestrate the call differently once
- 4:15you've done that. You can't promise an
- 4:16audit and then open with a pitch. So,
- 4:18the first 10 to 15 minutes you actually
- 4:20deliver it. You do the audit, you do the
- 4:22consultation, then you can shift into
- 4:24your offer. And what I found is that
- 4:25when you go this route, people will
- 4:27often literally ask you about your paid
- 4:28services. They'll literally bring it up
- 4:30for you, and that's a completely
- 4:31different conversation than you
- 4:33pitching, pitching, pitching at somebody
- 4:34who isn't even interested. That's
- 4:36reciprocity doing the work. If you give
- 4:38somebody something first, they feel more
- 4:40inclined to give something back. Now,
- 4:42there are two things to keep in mind if
- 4:43you build this. Pick one channel to
- 4:45start running it on based on where your
- 4:47buyer actually is and what you're
- 4:48actually good at. Not four hypothetical
- 4:50campaigns you're going to test at once.
- 4:52And track enough to inspect it. How many
- 4:54people landed, how many booked, how many
- 4:56showed, how many were actually
- 4:58qualified, and ultimately how many
- 4:59closed. Keep a note on why you rejected
- 5:01the ones you rejected because that's
- 5:03your qualification data. The point of
- 5:05the audit isn't to collect email
- 5:06addresses, it's to make the next
- 5:08conversation warmer and more specific
- 5:10than it would have been. A useful first
- 5:11step can create a much warmer
- 5:13conversation. The sales process still
- 5:15has to match how much the prospect
- 5:17already knows and whether you can
- 5:18actually help them.
- 5:22>> To me, this looks like a warm process,
- 5:24not a cold process. Uh cuz someone just
- 5:26getting on the phone having a phone call
- 5:28in then 15 minutes to 10K a year,
- 5:30they've got to know something about you,
- 5:32most likely, in order to make that
- 5:34purchase here.
- 5:34>> Completely agree with this one, and
- 5:36every agency owner already knows it even
- 5:38if they've never put it into words. The
- 5:39clearest version of this is the
- 5:40difference between a call that came from
- 5:42a referral and a call that came from
- 5:43cold outbound. The referral is warm.
- 5:45They already trust you because somebody
- 5:47they trust recommended you. You can
- 5:49basically get on a quick call and close
- 5:50out the deal. Not much convincing
- 5:52required. Now, cold outbound is a
- 5:54completely different story. That person
- 5:55doesn't know you, hasn't seen your work,
- 5:57and didn't even ask for this. To win
- 5:59that deal, you need a proper sales demo
- 6:01framework in place. And honestly, you
- 6:03need a stronger offer, too. Because the
- 6:04offer is doing more of the heavy lifting
- 6:06in this scenario. So, here's my rule on
- 6:08this. Build your sales process around
- 6:10being able to handle cold traffic. You
- 6:12can always adjust down for a warm deal
- 6:14that's easy to close. It's very hard to
- 6:15go the other direction. If you are only
- 6:17prepared for warm referrals, and then a
- 6:19cold lead lands on your calendar, you'll
- 6:21be missing a lot of good opportunities.
- 6:23What changes between warm and cold is
- 6:24your closing call demo framework. What
- 6:26does not change is your standard for a
- 6:28good fit. And I want to specify
- 6:29something because qualification gets
- 6:31misused quite often. It shouldn't be
- 6:33manufactured scarcity. You're not
- 6:34pretending to be selective to make
- 6:36people want it. You're truly figuring
- 6:38out whether you can responsibly help
- 6:39this person. For my ad agency, the
- 6:41conditions that genuinely affected the
- 6:42results were things like does their
- 6:44offer have proof of concept? Can they
- 6:46handle the volume we send them? Do they
- 6:48have experience in sales? And is there
- 6:50enough budget to get real data on their
- 6:52campaign? Here are some simple questions
- 6:53you'd want to ask. What outcome are you
- 6:55actually after? Why now? What have you
- 6:57already tried? What's it costing you to
- 6:59leave this alone? What would make you
- 7:01confident enough to move forward? And
- 7:02these questions also translate into
- 7:04information that will help you close the
- 7:06sale. From there, you'll get a good
- 7:07enough idea on whether or not they're a
- 7:09good fit for the program. And if the
- 7:11results depend on variables you don't
- 7:12control, don't hide that inside a
- 7:14guarantee. Make sure it's aligned. You
- 7:16don't want to end up needing to refund
- 7:17them in 3 months. Quick pause because
- 7:19this is where a lot of agency owners get
- 7:21stuck. When you look at the whole front
- 7:22end of an agency, the first visible
- 7:24problem usually isn't the real
- 7:25constraint. You'll think that you need
- 7:27more leads when the actual issue is that
- 7:29your calls are failing. Or you'll blame
- 7:30the closer when your offer is attracting
- 7:32the wrong buyer entirely. That's the
- 7:34kind of thing we work through on a quick
- 7:35consultation. We look at your offer,
- 7:37your lead generation, your sales
- 7:39process, and your delivery as one
- 7:40system. So, we can figure out which
- 7:42constraint is actually holding you back
- 7:44and what to fix first. If you'd like us
- 7:46to look at yours, you can apply through
- 7:47the link below. All right, once the
- 7:49sales process matches the buyer, the
- 7:51next question is whether you even have
- 7:52capacity to deliver on what you just
- 7:54sold.
- 7:58>> When you are supply constrained, you can
- 8:00either [music]
- 8:00raise the price, so fewer people buy and
- 8:03the people who buy you get paid more
- 8:04for, or
- 8:06you change the ratio of delivery,
- 8:08meaning you go from one-on-one
- 8:10to one-on-four to one-on-six to
- 8:11one-to-many, or you productize, or you
- 8:15hire people.
- 8:16>> Those four levers are right, and I'd add
- 8:18that most agency owners never get to
- 8:19choose between them because of they're
- 8:21stuck underneath the problem. What I see
- 8:23constantly is the owner trapped in the
- 8:24fulfillment work. They're the one
- 8:26building the campaigns, writing the
- 8:28copy, running the calls, and that limits
- 8:30the entire business because now the
- 8:31ceiling on the agency is however many
- 8:33hours the one person has. For an agency,
- 8:35the general path forward is productizing
- 8:38the offer. That means building systems,
- 8:40leveraging AI, creating SOPs,
- 8:42implementing automations, and hiring.
- 8:44And I'd change the order Hermosi implies
- 8:46there at least for right now. Research
- 8:48the AI implementation first. More and
- 8:50more agency tasks can genuinely be
- 8:52handled by AI at this point, and it's
- 8:54usually the cheapest and fastest of
- 8:55those four levers. Look there before you
- 8:57go post a job. Now, here's where I'd
- 8:59push back on how people execute this.
- 9:01Productizing is supposed to remove
- 9:03avoidable variation. It's not supposed
- 9:05to strip out the judgment your clients
- 9:06are actually paying for. There's a big
- 9:08difference between systemizing how a
- 9:10campaign gets launched and having nobody
- 9:11experienced ever look at the account.
- 9:14Clients can feel the second one, and
- 9:15they leave. So, map your agency's client
- 9:17experience out. Onboarding, fulfillment,
- 9:19support, reporting, then separate the
- 9:22work that's genuinely repeatable from
- 9:23the decisions that still need somebody
- 9:25who knows what they're doing. Then pick
- 9:27the one lever that fits your actual
- 9:28constraint. One, don't try to raise your
- 9:31price, productize, and hire in the same
- 9:33month because then you won't know which
- 9:34one moved the needle. Whatever you end
- 9:36up implementing can be monitored over
- 9:37time to ensure it's working as designed.
- 9:39And there's two more things worth saying
- 9:41about this. Once your productized,
- 9:43you're just running a more efficient
- 9:44operation, which means more clients can
- 9:46come in without a drop in quality.
- 9:48That's the whole idea of this. But it's
- 9:49also about margins. Productizing isn't
- 9:52only a capacity play. Done right, it's
- 9:53what lets you keep healthy margins as
- 9:55you scale instead of watching it shrink
- 9:57every time you add a client. Before you
- 9:59accept another sale, run the capacity
- 10:00check. If you don't feel confident you
- 10:02can bring on another 10 clients with
- 10:04ease, well, now you have something new
- 10:05to focus on. After the delivery model
- 10:07can handle more clients, the remaining
- 10:09constraint is usually the owner's own
- 10:10time.
- 10:14>> Cuz what it's going to do is give you
- 10:15full transparency into where your time
- 10:17is going. It's a is there a process, a
- 10:20person, or project that I need to
- 10:22create?
- 10:23>> Strongly agree with all of that. You
- 10:24can't remove a bottleneck you've never
- 10:26really observed. But I think Hormozi
- 10:28missed something here, and it's a big
- 10:29one in 2026. Hormozi says process,
- 10:31person, or project. But there's a fourth
- 10:33question now, and I'd ask it before all
- 10:35of the other three. Can AI do this?
- 10:37That's genuinely a different answer than
- 10:39it even was a year ago. It's usually
- 10:41cheaper and faster than hiring somebody.
- 10:43If you skip that question, you'll end up
- 10:44making a hire for something that didn't
- 10:46even need a human at all. And this is
- 10:47exactly why I have all of my mentees run
- 10:50what I call a task audit. You start by
- 10:51documenting where all of your time is
- 10:53actually going. Every task, every
- 10:55recurring decision, everything that's
- 10:57eating into your week. You do that first
- 10:59before you build anything because most
- 11:00owners are wrong about where their time
- 11:02is going. Then you build the proper
- 11:03system or make the proper hire behind
- 11:05each task. Now, there's an order to this
- 11:07that matters, and it's specific to
- 11:09agencies. You want to get yourself out
- 11:10of the fulfillment first. Then, once
- 11:12you're past about 30K per month, you can
- 11:14slowly start worrying about removing
- 11:15yourself from sales, not before that.
- 11:17Sales is usually the last thing you
- 11:19should hand off because early on, you're
- 11:21the best closer you have, and you're
- 11:22also the one learning the most from the
- 11:24calls. And one more caution here, don't
- 11:26start this by delegating the most
- 11:27integral operations within your agency.
- 11:30Start with something recurring and lower
- 11:31risk that still waits on you. For
- 11:33whatever you pick, document the input,
- 11:35the decision rule, the output, the
- 11:37quality check, and the condition that
- 11:38brings it back to you. Then let the
- 11:40person actually do it on live work while
- 11:42you watch. Inspect the result, improve
- 11:44the process, then move to the next one.
- 11:46And after you hand something off, look
- 11:48at the agency again because the
- 11:50constraint will move. It might land back
- 11:51on acquisition or sales or delivery.
- 11:54That's not a failure, that's what
- 11:55progress looks like. So, if you want a
- 11:5630-day version of the whole video,
- 11:58here's the order. Align your offering
- 12:00your delivery model, lean into one lead
- 12:02generation method, inspect your
- 12:04qualification, stabilize delivery, then
- 12:06transfer one decision off your plate. Do
- 12:08it in that order and you'll stop working
- 12:10on the loudest problems and start
- 12:11finding what the real problems are. Now,
- 12:13if this audit told you that qualified
- 12:15opportunities are the immediate
- 12:16constraint in your agency, the next
- 12:18thing you should watch is the best lead
- 12:20generation strategy for agencies in
- 12:212026. In that one, I break down how to
- 12:24choose one lead system and figure out
- 12:25why it is or isn't booking you qualified
- 12:27calls. It's on screen now and I'm
- 12:29looking forward to seeing you there.
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