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0:06Hey there folks, Tim Slate here from the
0:08E-Learning Designers Academy. You know,
0:10gosh, if you've been on LinkedIn or
0:13social media or, I don't know, the
0:15internet in general for more than 5
0:17minutes over the past year or so, then
0:19you have been hit right in the middle of
0:20the face with all of the AI hype out
0:23there, right? Right? We hear claims of
0:24one-click course creation or build an
0:26entire training in 30 seconds or even
0:29replace your entire instructional design
0:31team with a single tool. Right? We've
0:32heard it all. And when you hear claims
0:34like that, I don't know about you, but
0:36it kind of makes you roll your eyes
0:37because if you've if you've ever
0:39actually done the work in this industry,
0:41in the real world, then you know it's
0:42really not that simple. And you know,
0:44good instructional design requires
0:46judgment and context and tradeoffs and
0:49decision-making even when you're using
0:51AI right now. Yeah, there are a lot of
0:54AI powered e-learning authoring tools on
0:55the market right now. And to be honest,
0:57a lot of them are just kind of I don't
0:59know, chat GBT with a prettier interface
1:01wrapped around them, right? But you know
1:03what? There's this newer tool that I've
1:05been experimenting with that's taking a
1:06more intentional approach and that tool
1:09is called Mindsmith. Now, Mindsmith is
1:12an e-learning authoring tool that
1:13applies generative AI across the entire
1:16development process. And what I
1:17appreciate most is that it's designed to
1:20support better instructional design
1:21decisions, not replace them, while still
1:24giving you full control to edit and
1:26refine and shape what you create with
1:28it. Now, before we dive in, I do want to
1:30mention that the folks at Mindsmith are
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2:01off completely free. All right, let's
2:05jump in and see what's possible with
2:07Mindsmith. All right, so here I am on
2:09the Mindsmith web page and um you know,
2:12I got to tell you, their tagline right
2:13here on the front of the page is create
2:14better e-learning faster. And I have to
2:16tell you, playing around with Mindsmith
2:18uh over the last couple of weeks or so,
2:20that has definitely been the case, and I
2:21can't wait for you to see some of the
2:23really cool and impressive things that
2:24you can do with this tool. All right, so
2:27I'm going to go ahead and log into my
2:29account here. And once you log in here,
2:31let me get logged in. There we go. It'll
2:34bring you to your uh dashboard page
2:36where you can see all of the different
2:38projects or courses or lessons that you
2:40might have worked on. There's a lot
2:41here. I'm not going to go through
2:42everything. Most of it is pretty
2:44standard stuff that you would expect to
2:46see in terms of an authoring tool um and
2:50how you organize your projects and
2:51content and all of that stuff. So, what
2:53I'm going to do for uh this demo is
2:55we're actually going to create a lesson.
2:57And what I really want to focus in on is
2:59how you can use their AI agent to do a
3:02lot of the heavy lifting for you. Now,
3:03as I mentioned in the introduction, one
3:05of the really
3:08uh impressive things with Mindsmith and
3:10what I found to be the most important
3:11thing as I was playing with it is while
3:13the AI agent can do a lot of the heavy
3:17lifting for you in terms of creating
3:19content, organizing content, putting it
3:21into interactions and everything, you
3:23have complete editing control. So,
3:25you'll see as we go through this,
3:27there's going to be times where I'm
3:28going to intervene and make edits. And
3:30so, I want you to think of the agent as,
3:33you know, to use an AI term, like a
3:35co-pilot, right? That you get to work
3:37with along the way, right? All right.
3:39So, I'm going to go ahead and come up
3:41here and I'm going to create a um a new
3:44project. And there's two different types
3:46of projects you can create in Mindsmith.
3:49Um we have the option to create a lesson
3:50or a course. Now, a lesson is something
3:52that you would create that would be like
3:5410 to 20 minutes uh in length. And then
3:57a a course is a collection of lessons,
3:59right? So, if you're creating a a larger
4:00experience, you can create a full
4:02course, which is a combination of those
4:04lessons. I'm going to focus on a lesson
4:05here for now. The other thing that you
4:07can do that I think is really great is
4:08you can also import SCM packages, right?
4:10So, let's say hypothetically you've used
4:14another authoring tool and you have all
4:16of these published SCM packages. is you
4:18don't have the editable files anymore,
4:20but you have the SCM content, right?
4:22Well, one of the great things that you
4:23can do is you can upload that SCM
4:25content, which has traditionally been
4:27really uneditable, right? You can import
4:30that SCM content and then you can
4:32convert it easily into um Mindsmith,
4:36right, which is super awesome. So, I'll
4:38go ahead and click the option here to
4:39create a lesson. And it's going to bring
4:41us to this screen where we can start
4:43building out our lesson. Now, um this
4:46this screen is where we start
4:48interacting with the agent and where we
4:50start giving guidance for what it is
4:52that we're going to build here. Right
4:54now, before I talk about uh working with
4:56the agent up here, I'll come down here
4:58and I'll highlight a couple of things
5:00that you can do. You can always start by
5:01creating a blank project. So, like I
5:03said before, you have complete editing
5:05control. You're not required to use the
5:07AI features. I don't know why you
5:08wouldn't after you see some of the stuff
5:10that it can do, but you can create a
5:12blank course completely from scratch.
5:13And even once you've created the blank
5:15course, you can still start using the AI
5:17agent to do things with it, which is a
5:19really great feature. Um, and then you
5:21can, you know, start with some course
5:22templates down here like workplace
5:24safety or cyber security or
5:26communication skills and whatnot. Now,
5:28obviously, I can type in here and tell
5:30it what it is I'm going to build. I'll
5:32do that here in a moment. I can even
5:33give it objectives. So, if I've already
5:35written some objectives, uh, learning
5:37objectives, I can provide those. I can
5:39talk about writing style. I'll show you
5:40all of that. And then we also have the
5:42option for recipes here. Recipes are um
5:46like preset
5:49um actions that we might want uh the AI
5:52agent to do. So for example, one of the
5:54cool things that you can do is you can
5:56actually import a video and it can watch
5:58that video and convert that video into a
6:01course. One of the really cool demos
6:03that I saw um that I don't have time to
6:05show you here today is that you can
6:07import a video and the AI agent will
6:09actually take and extract screenshots
6:11from the video and build that into the
6:13course. Right? So, when you get a chance
6:14to play with Mindsmith, that might be
6:16something worth doing. So, there's all
6:18sorts of different um little recipes
6:21here that allow you to um I don't know
6:24preconfigure the agent in terms of what
6:26you want to do, right? So in this case,
6:28I'm probably going to I don't know,
6:30let's do a needs analysis. This is where
6:32it's going to ask me questions before
6:33making changes. I'll go ahead and select
6:36that, right? So that it it it asks me
6:39things about what I want to do with this
6:40content as we work with it. Now, uh I
6:44can also upload documents here. So let
6:46me start by typing in what I want. So um
6:49you know, I'll be honest with you, I'm
6:50not a I'm not a prompt uh expert. I
6:55found that I I just like talking to uh
6:58AI just like I was talking to another
7:00human being. So, you're going to see a
7:01little bit of that here. So, um it's the
7:05I should start typing, right? It's the
7:07start of a new year and we need to
7:12create a course for our
7:15farmy
7:17text
7:19leaders on how to give feedback to their
7:25pharmacy employees
7:29um
7:31at Gilbert's. That's going to be the
7:33name of this hypothetical company that I
7:35work at.
7:38And we
7:40want leaders providing feedback and
7:45coaching using the four steps of the
7:50grow model. I want to develop a course
7:56that
7:58teaches these skills but also gives
8:03leaders the chance to put them into
8:06practice. Ideally, the course will
8:10present the content as a storydriven
8:14experience with a character,
8:18examples,
8:21and a solid mix.
8:25Can't spell solid. Say solid mix of
8:29demonstration,
8:31explanation,
8:34and I can't spell explanation. We'll fix
8:36that. and practice right
8:39explanation
8:41I've attached
8:43um
8:46our leaders grow coaching
8:51model guide for reference right so what
8:55I'm going to do that's quite a long
8:57prompt but I'm wanting to give it a lot
8:59to say you know what's the issue that
9:01we're trying to solve here what it is
9:03that I want to build and also the type
9:05of experience I want to create. Do you
9:07have to type something that intricate?
9:09Probably not, right? But I want to see
9:11how much I can push this. So, I'm also
9:13going to upload some files here. And I
9:17have our grow coaching guide here for
9:20Gilberts, our hypothetical company. So,
9:22I'm going to go ahead and upload that.
9:24And it's uploading here. All right. So,
9:27it's uploaded that document. Now, before
9:29we hit the let's go button, I also have
9:32the option for writing style here. So, I
9:34can uh adjust the way that it generates
9:37content. Right. So, we're going to do uh
9:41conversational here. And no, Gemini, I
9:45don't need you right now. All right,
9:46let's go. Okay,
9:49so it's going to take everything. It's
9:51metamorphizing here. Hey there. Sounds
9:54like a fantastic project. Storydriven
9:55leadership development course on the
9:57grow model for your pharmacy tech
9:58leaders at Gilbert's. I love that you're
10:00thinking about demonstration,
10:01explanation, and practice. Yeah. Gosh,
10:03it's giving me some great feedback here.
10:04That's exactly how skills like coaching
10:06and feedback really stick. Let me take a
10:08look at your coaching guide first and
10:09then I'll ask you some questions to make
10:11sure we build the course exactly right
10:13for your team. Great. I've reviewed your
10:15grow coaching model guide. It's well
10:16structured covering the four steps,
10:18goal, reality, options, will way
10:20forward, sample questions for each and
10:22how it connects to Gilbert's core values
10:24and patient care. This gives me a solid
10:26foundation. Now, before I design
10:28anything, I want to make sure we build
10:30exactly what your team needs. Let me ask
10:32some questions to nail down the details.
10:34So, what I love about this is it's doing
10:35like its own little mini analysis. It's
10:38not just taking it and running with it.
10:40And this is one of the core things about
10:42the way Mindsmith works is that uh the
10:44way they've designed this AI agent is
10:46that it has really high guard rails for
10:49making sure what you create with it is
10:52as instructionally sound as possible.
10:54So, it's going to ask questions that
10:56gear what we create with it in that
10:58direction. Right. So tell me more about
11:00your pharmacy tech leaders. How many are
11:02there? What is their experience level
11:04with coaching? And have they been
11:06exposed to the grow or similar models
11:08before? So uh brand new to coaching,
11:10need fundamentals, some coaching
11:12experience but no formal framework,
11:14familiar with grow uh and a refresh and
11:17practice something else here. Right? So
11:19of course I could skip this but in this
11:21case we're going to say they have some
11:22coaching experience but no formal
11:24framework. All right. What are the most
11:27common coaching situations these leaders
11:29face? Accuracy errors, workflow issues,
11:31attendance, customer service. I'd like
11:33to build realistic scenarios they'll
11:35recognize. So, prescription accuracy,
11:38workflow efficiency and time management,
11:40customer service communication,
11:41attendance reliability. This is where
11:42I'm going to give it some detail. I'm
11:44going to write something else. We're
11:44going to say that these pharmacy techs
11:47get a little overwhelmed when they're
11:49busy doing pharmacy work and then
11:52customer service suffers as a result.
11:55So, we're going to say our pharmacy
11:58texts
12:00tend to struggle
12:04juggling their
12:06um prescription
12:09filling. I really can't type today. Work
12:12with maintaining
12:16good customer service. See, you're going
12:20to see how little I know how to spell.
12:22I'm just horrible at spelling.
12:25All right. So, I gave it that answer.
12:27Next. Okay. How long should this course
12:29take to complete? This helps me
12:31determine depth and how much practice to
12:32include. We're going to say a quick
12:34overview. 15 to 20 minutes. I mean, an
12:36e-learning course, 30 to 45 minutes, 60
12:39minutes. I don't think so. 15 to 20
12:41minutes, I would say. Okay. How we
12:43measure success? Do leaders need to pass
12:45a knowledge check, demonstrate skills in
12:46a scenario, or both? So, we can do
12:48knowledge check. We can do scenario
12:50based where they apply, grow, both quiz
12:51and scenario, just completion tracking.
12:53Let's do both quiz and scenario. You
12:55mentioned a story-driven experience with
12:57a character. Do you have a specific
12:58character in mind? A relatable leader at
13:00Gilbert's or should I create one? Any
13:02preference on who that character is?
13:03Create a character for me. A pharmacy
13:05tech leader. Use a mentor. I Let's have
13:08him create it for me. I mean, we're
13:10using AI. Let's see what it does. Okay.
13:14So, it took that information and it's uh
13:17prompted that back to Mindsmith and now
13:19it's processing the information. Let's
13:21see what it does. Okay. This is really
13:23helpful. I'm getting a clear picture.
13:25Leaders with some experience but no
13:26formal framework so we can move past the
13:29basics quickly. Move on to giving them a
13:31structured approach. The core challenge
13:32balancing prescription accuracy with
13:34customer service. Perfect tension for
13:36realistic scenarios. 15 to 20 minutes.
13:38Both quiz and scenario practice and a
13:41relatable peer character who learns
13:43along them. Not a distant expert, but
13:45someone they can actually identify with.
13:47Oh my gosh, it's like I'm talking to an
13:49instructional designer. Okay, so we have
13:51some more questions. How will leaders
13:53access this course? This helps me
13:54optimize design for the experience
13:55through an LMS shared link they can
13:57access on any device primarily on mobile
14:00tablets during breaks. Not sure yet.
14:02Let's do
14:05mobile tablets during breaks.
14:08No, we're going to do shared link. They
14:10can access any device. Okay. Will the
14:12tone fit Gilbert's culture best? Uh,
14:15should this feel corporate and polished
14:16or more conversational and down to
14:18earth? We're going to say uh
14:21professional and polished or a
14:22healthcare organization. Absolutely.
14:25After completing this course, what's the
14:26number one behavior change you want to
14:28see from these leaders? They use
14:30structured coaching conversations
14:31instead of just giving directives. They
14:33ask better questions and listen more
14:35during feedback. They follow up on
14:36coaching conversations with action
14:38plans. I'm going to say all of the
14:40above. Well, really, the grow coaching
14:43model is about asking questions to
14:45elicit solutions from who you're
14:47coaching. So, I'm going to say ask
14:48better questions. Okay. Should I
14:50incorporate Gilbert's branding, like the
14:52red Shield logo, specific colors into
14:54the course design or keep it neutral?
14:56Okay. I didn't even know it could do
14:57that. Holy moly. Previously, well, I was
15:00going to show you how you can edit the
15:02theme manually, but I didn't know it
15:03could pull the colors. So, we're going
15:06to have a pull the colors. What the
15:08heck? Okay, we're going into uncharted
15:12territory from my testing. So, we're
15:13going to see. I got to have a sip of
15:15water for this. It's germinating. Holy
15:17crap.
15:20Okay, excellent. I now have a complete
15:22picture of what you need. Let me
15:24summarize what I've learned and propose
15:25a plan for review. So, summary of
15:27requirements. So, we have the audience,
15:29core challenge, duration, tone, format,
15:31assessment, behavior, goal, branding,
15:33delivery.
15:35Yeah. Okay, that's all spot on. Propo
15:37proposed core structure. Now, this is
15:38another thing what I really love as I've
15:40been playing with Mindsmith. It's not
15:41just going to go straight into
15:42development. We're going to go through a
15:44whole storyboarding stage where it's
15:45going to show us like an outline of the
15:47content structure. We can make edits at
15:49that stage too. Okay. So, given the 15-
15:5120 minute time frame, here's what I'm
15:52thinking. Introduction, meet the
15:54character, why grow, the four steps,
15:56knowledge check, practice scenario. Does
15:58the structure feel right? Any
15:59adjustments before I build the
16:01storyboard? I have some adjustments I
16:03want to make, but I'm going to save
16:04those for once we see the story board.
16:07So, I'm going to say great work, you
16:10know, because it's AI still, right? So,
16:11let's be nice to it. Um, let's build
16:16that storyboard.
16:19Well, bam.
16:23It's doing okay.
16:26Stargazing.
16:29Makes me wonder what I'm doing. I'm
16:31prompting.
16:33The future is now. Okay, let's do this.
16:36I'll build up the storyboard now based
16:37on everything we discussed. Now, this is
16:39the other thing that's so cool. It gives
16:40Oh, you missed it there, but there's a
16:41to-do list, and I'll I'll show that up
16:43here in a moment. Okay. So, what it's
16:45doing now is it's taking all that
16:46content, everything I gave it, and it's
16:50creating a story board. Um, and this
16:53story board outlines, you know, the
16:56title, the description, it gives us some
16:59objectives, it has the resources here,
17:02and now it's going to start building the
17:03pages. So, we're going to give it some
17:04time, and I'll use the magic of editing
17:06to speed this up.
17:13All right. So, it's gone ahead and
17:16created our storyboard. And as I
17:18mentioned a moment ago, we have the
17:19title. We have uh a bit of the summary
17:22here. We have some objectives here, the
17:25resources that we've uploaded. I could
17:26always add more if I need to, which
17:28we'll do that here in a little bit. And
17:29then it defines each of the pages here.
17:31Now what it does is it outlines the page
17:34uh the title a bit of a description and
17:37then it references which objective uh
17:39you can see those tagged here which
17:41objective is being accomplished for each
17:44part of uh the storyboard. So each of
17:46these are little pages or sections that
17:50we can um move around and edit. So as I
17:53scroll through this, we have why
17:54coaching matters, the grow coaching
17:56model, uh step one the goal, step two,
17:59reality, step three option, step four
18:01will way forward. We have our knowledge
18:03check here with some questions, practice
18:05scenario, turn, uh your turn to coach
18:08and wrap up and coaching. Now, um we see
18:11all of that here. I can always come back
18:13to the agent here and you can see it
18:15gives me a summary here. So it's done.
18:17If we look at the to-do list here, it
18:19set the lesson title, descriptions,
18:21define the learning objectives, created
18:22a storyboard page, present the
18:24storyboard for review. So, we have our
18:25our checklist of things. So, your
18:27storyboard is ready for review. Here's
18:29what I've created. It gives us that
18:31outline here. Outlines all of these
18:32pages. Take a look at the storyboard on
18:35your screen. Does it does the flow feel
18:36right? Any changes? The character's
18:38name, uh, the scenario focus, the page
18:41structure or length. Let me know what
18:43you think. So, as we look at this, I do
18:45want to make a change. I think what I
18:47want is I would like there to be some
18:50coaching as we cover each step, right? I
18:53don't want it to be just a bunch of
18:54content presentation, a knowledge check,
18:56and then practice at the end. So, I'm
18:58going to say this looks great. However,
19:02I'd like to see some practice scenarios
19:07presented for each step of the grow
19:13model, not just a bunch of content
19:17presentation
19:19followed by a quiz
19:22and then practice at the end. So, some
19:28type of practice
19:32scenarios along the way for each step
19:36would be great. Explanation point so it
19:40knows that I'm excited.
19:43Okay, let's see what it does. It's
19:44perplexing.
19:46[sighs]
19:49It's absorbing now.
19:55Okay, great feedback. You're absolutely
19:56right. Irrelevant practice throughout is
19:59much better for skill building than
20:01front-loading all that content. Let me
20:03restructure each grow step um so it has
20:07its own practice scenario after the
20:09explanation. So, it's it's updating the
20:10storyboard. So, we'll give it a few
20:12moments here and go from there.
20:18All right. So, it's gone ahead and
20:21uh updated the storyboard here. So, if
20:24we look at the outline, revised
20:26structure, a familiar challenge, that's
20:28our introduction, why coaching and grow
20:31overview, uh step one, goal practice,
20:34reality practice. So, we can see that
20:36kind of, you know, content presentation
20:39practice. Then we have our knowledge
20:40check and wrap-up. Each growth step now
20:42has a learn practice pairing. Uh the
20:45Prius scenario runs as a continuous
20:47thread. learners coach her throughout
20:48all four steps. The final quiz is now a
20:51quick confirmation, not the main
20:52assessment. That's great. Does this feel
20:54more balanced? So, I think we're feeling
20:56good about that uh storyboard. Now, um
20:59even after we finalize the storyboard,
21:01we can still make edits, right? And I
21:02have some of that up my sleeve here. So,
21:04we're going to go ahead and say build
21:06the lesson here, which is going to go
21:08ahead and build this out.
21:10And it's freestyling it. That's pretty
21:12cool. Okay, we'll give it a moment to
21:14build the lesson.
21:16Okay, let's build this lesson. I'll
21:17create engaging pages with a good mix of
21:19content, titles, visuals, or tiles,
21:22visuals, and interactive scenarios. We
21:24have a new to-do list, and it's going to
21:25go ahead and build that out. And again,
21:29as before, with the magic of editing,
21:31I'm going to let it do its thing.
21:38All right. So, I'm going to pause here.
21:39So, um, it's still building the lesson
21:42here, but it took us away from the
21:44storyboard, and now it's bringing us
21:45into the actual editor here. And as it
21:48builds it, you're going to see things
21:49moving around on the screen cuz this is
21:51the agent actually doing the work for
21:53me. Um, but you can see up here there
21:55was the storyboard. Now, we're in the
21:56editor. And you can see here, it's
21:58building the pages here on the left hand
22:00side. Uh, and it's doing everything from
22:02generating imagery, generating the
22:04content, generating the interactivity.
22:07Oh my goodness. and it's coming together
22:09here, which is insane. So, we're going
22:12to keep letting it go here in a moment.
22:14And as I scroll through this, we have a
22:16character here. We have our uh
22:18introduction. This is insane. Still
22:22generating some images for each of these
22:24pages, right? So, we're going to let it
22:26go for a moment.
22:34All right. So that maybe took I don't
22:37know two and a half maybe three minutes
22:39to uh generate the entire lesson based
22:44off of what we've planned here. And it
22:46did it didn't just generate the content
22:48it generated the structure of the
22:49content interactivity which I assume is
22:52in here. If not we'll add it images
22:56everything right. It it's it's gotten me
22:59to the point where I have an MVP of a
23:01course. I don't know how long have we
23:03been recording. 10 minutes. I don't
23:06know. That's insane, right? So, um, it's
23:09still, uh, finishing up some of the
23:11images here. So, let's see what it said.
23:13Let's come back up here. So, we have all
23:15of the pages here. It just gives us this
23:17kind of outline here. What's included?
23:19Hero sections with background images for
23:21each gross step. Elena's story running
23:23through the content as demon uh,
23:25demonstration. four branching scenarios
23:27with Priya accordians for sample
23:29coaching questions, quote call outs,
23:30three uh quiz questions, action
23:33challenge uh to apply in the job. Take a
23:36look through the lesson and let me know
23:39what you think uh any adjustments to the
23:41content scenarios or visual design.
23:43Right. All right. So, I'm going to click
23:44out of the agent here and we have the
23:46course. Now, before we continue forward
23:47a little bit uh about the structure of
23:51how a course in Mindsmith is structured,
23:54right? So over here on the left hand
23:57side, this is where we can navigate
23:59through the entire lesson and we have
24:01multiple pages here. Think of these as
24:03like blocks or sections, right? And then
24:05over here, obviously, we can see we're
24:07in this page here and I can scroll down
24:09here and that's where it ends. And then
24:11I can navigate here. Of course, I can
24:13drag and move those around if I want to
24:14reorder it. Pretty straightforward. I
24:17can always add a new page here. And as
24:20I've highlighted before, you have
24:21complete editing control over everything
24:23here. This isn't like you generate
24:25something with AI and you can't edit it.
24:27You have to keep prompting and prompting
24:28and prompting. No, you can edit
24:30everything here. So, I can add, you
24:32know, all sorts of different elements
24:33here. Uh, headers, paragraphs, I can add
24:36multiple choice questions, embed stuff
24:38like videos, um, code blocks, all of
24:41the, you know, standard interactions
24:43that you can imagine. Uh, blank page
24:46section divider, I can create page
24:47templates. So, you know, it's a
24:49full-fledged authoring tool in that
24:51sense, right? And then as we're on the
24:54page here itself, all of these elements
24:56are referred to as tiles in Mindsmith.
24:59Right? So here we have a tile here and
25:01we can move it around. There's options
25:03here where we can adjust the spacing,
25:05the size, um, all of that sort of stuff.
25:08I can change the background image. I can
25:10upload my own image. All of that sort of
25:12stuff. Here's a text tile. Uh, I can
25:14edit this. So all of it is completely
25:16editable um, in Mindsmith, right? Um, so
25:20let's scroll through here and see what
25:21we have here. So, I'm gonna, you know
25:23what? Before we make any edits, let's
25:24just preview what it created right out
25:27of the box or the agent. I don't know
25:30what to refer to that anymore. I'm going
25:32to go ahead and preview it up here with
25:33this play button.
25:35And we have coaching with grow uh
25:38guiding better conversations. Okay. Meet
25:40Ellena. Elellena has been a pharmacy
25:42tech leader at Gilbert's for 2 years.
25:43She knows her team well and takes pride
25:45in developing her people. Today, she
25:47needs to have a conversation with
25:48Marcus, one of her strongest texts.
25:50She's noticed a pattern. When the
25:51pharmacy gets busy, Marcus focuses so
25:54intensely on filling prescriptions
25:55accurately that customers sometimes feel
25:58feel ignored. At the counter, Elena
26:00wants to help Marcus improve, but she's
26:02not sure how to have this conversation
26:04without feeling like criticism. Without
26:06a feeling like criticism, she's heard
26:08about a coaching framework called Grow.
26:10She decides to give it a try. Follow
26:12along as Elena learns to coach with
26:15Grow. So we'll click continue here.
26:17Again, we're going to the next page
26:19here. So why coaching matters? Uh you
26:21know, when we jump straight to telling
26:23someone what to do, they may comply, but
26:25they don't own the solution. Coaching is
26:27different. Um so we have a little quote
26:29here. Uh we have the grow model, a
26:31four-step framework. So we'll start
26:32that. We see here a little um uh I don't
26:36know what to call this, like a tabbed
26:37interaction. So we have G for goal. What
26:40does improvement look like? There's a
26:42good opportunity here where we could
26:43probably add some more content to each
26:45of these, but it's a simple little
26:47interaction there. We'll wave forward.
26:49Okay, let's walk through each step with
26:51Elellena.
26:53Okay, step one, goal. Clarify what
26:55success looks like. All right, Ellena's
26:57approach. Elellena starts by helping
26:59Marcus clarify what success looks like.
27:01Vague goals lead to vague results. We
27:04have a quote here. Marcus, I want to
27:05talk to you about how we can help uh you
27:07balance your prescription work with your
27:09customer interactions. What would it
27:11look like if we were doing both really
27:13well? Right? So, what specifically would
27:15you like to improve? Open the
27:16conversation. Invites the employee to
27:19identify their own focus area.
27:22How will you know that you've achieved
27:23this? Help define measurable success
27:26criteria. What does success look like?
27:27So, we're just going over the principle.
27:29We could probably make this image a
27:31little bit bigger. We'll work on editing
27:32that. Continue.
27:35All right. So, practice setting the
27:36goal. Now, it's your turn. You're
27:38coaching Priya, a pharmacy tech who's
27:39been making occasional data entry errors
27:41when the pharmacy is busy. Which opening
27:44question best helps Priya define a clear
27:46specific goal? Again, so you know, the
27:49information I provided that I uploaded
27:51was a really simple three-page coaching
27:53guide on grow. So, it's generated all of
27:56this, right? And again, I'm going to be
27:58able to edit all of this. So, you've
27:59noticed Priya making data entry errors.
28:01How do you open the conversation? So, we
28:03have a couple options here. What would
28:04it look like if you were entering
28:06prescriptions accurately? Even during
28:07our busiest times, you've been making
28:09too many errors lately. What are you
28:11going to do about it? Okay, obviously
28:13that's wrong. I'll get it wrong. This
28:15puts Priya on defensive. It's act it's
28:17accusatory. It doesn't help uh her
28:19envision a positive goal. All right. Um
28:23Priya looks uncomfortable. I'm trying my
28:25best. It just gets really hectic. The
28:27defensive tone tells you the approach
28:29isn't working. Let's try a different
28:30question. So again, it's it's created a
28:31branching scenario. This is amazing.
28:34Okay, I understand. Let me rephrase.
28:36What would it look like if you were
28:37handling busy periods really well? I
28:39need you to slow down and double check
28:40your work. Okay, you can see her
28:42expression has changed. I'm gonna let's
28:44make the situation better. Okay, so her
28:47expression has changed. I understand.
28:48Let me rephrase that. Good recovery.
28:51Reframing the question to focus on
28:53success rather than failure helps Priya
28:55engage constructively. Nice recovery
28:58complete. All right, so a little little
29:01scenario. Step two, reality. Okay, we
29:03have an image here. We need to update
29:05there. That's a little odd there, but
29:07that's okay. That stuff happens. So,
29:09Ellen is approached. Next, Ellena
29:10explores what's actually happening today
29:12without blame or judgment. The goal is
29:14shared understanding, not interrogation.
29:16Help me understand what's going on when
29:18things get busy. What happens in those
29:20moments when customers are waiting?
29:22Okay. What's currently working well?
29:25What gets in the way? So, we have some
29:27coaching here.
29:29And then we continue on with the
29:32scenario. And now we're going to do it
29:33with Pria, right? So we'll continue on.
29:35Let's go through this. Okay, that image.
29:37We'll fix that image here in the
29:39background.
29:41Okay, so we have this back and forth
29:43structure structure. This is exactly
29:45what I asked it to create, right? And so
29:47we'll continue on down here.
29:51We get to practice
29:53and then we have our knowledge check
29:54here. So what's the primary purpose of
29:56the reality step and grow? to assign
29:58blame for the problem to understand
30:00what's currently happening without
30:01judgment to set performance expectations
30:04to create an action plan I think it's
30:05number two submit there we go we have
30:08some feedback so we have our quiz there
30:09right so you can see it's it's it's
30:11built out this course now are there
30:12opportunities for improvement of course
30:14there are right and this is why you
30:16still need a human in the loop when it
30:17comes to AI stuff but despite those
30:20small opportunities those images and
30:23whatnot I mean again you know in a few
30:28minutes, less than 20 minutes, it's
30:30gotten me an MVP, a pretty good MVP, uh,
30:33for a course. So, let's go ahead and go
30:35back to editing this, right? And we can
30:38edit our course. Now, I can go in and
30:40make manual edits if I wanted to. So,
30:42for example, you know, let's say here I
30:46wanted to make this a little bit bigger.
30:48I can come in here and scroll this down.
30:50You can see it makes that image bigger.
30:52So, that's a simple little edit just
30:54like it's, you know, like it is on this
30:56page. So that's all good. You can even
30:58see these c um these characters are
31:01consistent. I mean, how amazing is that,
31:04right? If I wanted to, I can come in
31:06here and manually edit uh the
31:08experience.
31:10And you can see it brings me into this
31:11node module. So again, you can
31:13completely edit uh these branching
31:16scenarios and build them however you
31:18want, right? And I can come in here,
31:20edit the dialogue, edit the options,
31:23change the character. Maybe I want it to
31:25be Julian to be a pharmacy tech. And I
31:27can come in here and do that with all of
31:31those characters, right? And then it
31:33detects, you know, character changed.
31:34Would you like to replace all? Let me go
31:36back and do this one. See if it brings
31:38up that. Yep. So, I'll replace all. And
31:40then it updates it. Right. So, it's
31:43detecting. It's following what I'm doing
31:44as I'm doing it. It's helping me get
31:47things done, which is super super easy,
31:49right? And of course, um, I can come
31:52back and do that with all of those here
31:54as well, right? So, I can manually edit
31:56all of this stuff. So, let's try a few
31:59things with the AI agent, right? So
32:02let's say um you know uh the images in
32:07the hero section of each page
32:12um
32:14for each step are
32:17a bit distracting.
32:23Some of them have text
32:27etc. Can we replace these with
32:33um
32:38wide shot images of a pharmacy
32:44without text? Let's see what it does. I
32:46have no idea. Okay. Uh
32:50I think wide shots two words. Who knows?
32:52Let's see what the agent does. It's
32:54puzzling.
33:03So, absolutely. I'll replace those hero
33:05background images with clean wide shot
33:07pharmacy images. No text or abstract
33:09graphics. Thank you. That's exactly what
33:12I wanted. So, we'll give it a moment to
33:13do that.
33:16Actually, I'm not going to fast forward.
33:18We're going to watch it as I do it. You
33:19can see it's literally doing it right
33:20now, which is amazing.
33:23Done. I've updated all four grow
33:25coaching step hero images with clean
33:27wide shot pharmacy interiors. No text,
33:29no people, just professional pharmacy
33:30environments. The images are generating
33:32now and should appear shortly. Okay,
33:35we'll give it a moment.
33:40Okay, I think it finished.
33:42Um, let's minimize the agent. So, there
33:45we go. That's a much better image. Yeah,
33:48these are much better images for that
33:50hero section, right? Of course, there's
33:51some adjustments we can continue making,
33:53but those are pretty good. I like that.
33:56All right. So, as we're working through
33:59building our course, there might be
34:00moments where you go, "Hey, you know,
34:02ame just delivered me more information,
34:04right? Or you go through the edit uh
34:07review cycle with the stakeholder and
34:08like, hey, we forgot to do this, right?"
34:11And this is again where we can add more
34:12content, feed more information to the
34:15agent, and they can update the course
34:17for us, which is amazing. So, I'm going
34:19to say, um, I just got feedback from a
34:24stakeholder that we need to make sure
34:28this course aligns with our Gilbert's
34:32core values. I've attached our core
34:37values document. Can you
34:42uh read through
34:46it and make sure the and let's not make
34:50sure let's and update the course content
34:54to
34:56highlight
34:58the values throughout.
35:01Um before you make any edits, provide a
35:05summary for me first. Okay, let's add
35:09those. I'm going to add a resource. And
35:12we have our core values here. So, we're
35:14going to throw those in there. This is
35:15just a simple, you know, document that
35:18outlines what the core values are. Open
35:21that. We're going to attach that.
35:27Give it a moment.
35:32All right. Send.
35:38Okay, let me read through the Gilbert's
35:40core values document first. It's reading
35:42it.
35:45Okay, let's go back up here. I have
35:48reviewed the Gilbert's core values
35:50document. Here's my summary and proposed
35:51integration plan. Three interconnected
35:53values guide every interaction
35:55Gilbert's. putting patients first,
35:57prioritizing patient safety, a clean uh
36:00welcoming environment, maintaining
36:01organized professional spaces,
36:03delivering efficient visits, and
36:04accurate scripts, prescriptions, balance
36:07speed with precision. Key insights from
36:09the document. Every performance,
36:10conversation, coaching, interaction, and
36:12improvement plan should reflect these
36:14values and action. Yes. So, what's the
36:16proposed integration plan? Here's how I
36:18weave the values throughout. So, page
36:20two, why coaching matters, general intro
36:22to coaching, an explicit connection.
36:25Page three. D I feel pretty good about
36:27this. Yeah, this looks good. Let's do
36:33it.
36:40It's gardening.
36:43Okay, let me get the current lesson
36:45state. Uh, and it's going to give us
36:48another to-do list. It's going to make
36:49the exact updates and then they'll
36:52integrate the values throughout.
36:58All right. So, it's gone ahead. It's
37:00gone through the entire course and it's
37:03integrated our core values and it's
37:05giving me a summary here of everything
37:07that it's done. I've navigated you to
37:10page two so you can see the new values
37:12introduction. Scroll through the course
37:14to review how the values are woven into
37:16each step. I mean, isn't that amazing?
37:18It's just it took me to what it wanted
37:20to show me.
37:23That's insane, right? So, why coaching
37:25matters? Here we have uh some values
37:28information here. We start, we move
37:30forward through here, right? Again, I
37:33might want to reorder some of this just
37:34for the sake of flow, but it did a
37:36really good job incorporating that uh
37:40throughout the course here. Okay. So,
37:42you can see the new values introduction.
37:43Scroll through the course to review how
37:45the values are woven into each grow
37:46step. Let me know if you'd like to make
37:47any adjustments or wording placement.
37:49Okay. This is good. All right. So now
37:51what I want to show you is let's move on
37:53to another really cool feature inside
37:57Mindsmith that they just are starting to
37:59launch and roll out here and this is the
38:01ability to create AIdriven
38:03conversations. So let's pretend let's
38:06say down here at the end I wanted to
38:10incorporate
38:13like a pulling it all together, right?
38:15So, I'm going to do a new page and we're
38:18going to do I'm just going to start with
38:20a blank page, right? And we're going to
38:23call this, you know, pulling it all
38:26together, right? And I'll have it edit
38:30all of this, but I'm going to add a
38:31tile. And you're going to notice there's
38:33an option up here. We did we looked at
38:34the scenarios before, the branching
38:36scenarios like we have here. You can
38:37create those here. Um, you can do video,
38:39but there's also conversations. And I
38:41guess while I'm here, I should mention,
38:42you know, there's all these different
38:43tiles that you see here, right? All
38:45sorts of different interaction tiles. Um
38:47there's tables, quotes, notes, line
38:49break, spacer, section markers,
38:51timelines, you can add buttons, you can
38:53create nonlinear courses, you can do
38:55multiple choice questions, feedback. I
38:57mean, there's a lot of what you would
38:59expect in any type of e-learning
39:00authoring tool. You can build that in
39:02here, right? I'm going to select the
39:04option for conversation.
39:06Now, the conversation is going to allow
39:08us to create an interaction where I, as
39:11the learner, I'm going to be interacting
39:13with my voice with an AI character, and
39:17it's almost instantaneous. It's amazing
39:21how how quickly and easily and smoothly
39:23it works. So, I'm going to start with a
39:25template, right? I don't I don't want to
39:27create it from scratch. I'm going to
39:28start with a template. And we have some
39:29templates here. So, sales objection
39:31handling, critical thinking discussion,
39:33medical knowledge assessment, difficult
39:35conversation practice. I think that's
39:37the one we're going to do. There's even
39:38a language profic proficiency check.
39:40That's super cool. We're going to do
39:41this roleplay. Difficult conversation
39:43practice. Okay. And it's going to create
39:45this. In this role play, you'll practice
39:47delivering constructive feedback in
39:48difficult conversations. Jordan has been
39:50underperforming recently. Blah blah blah
39:52blah blah. Right now,
39:54uh that's just the default template, but
39:57we can edit the template. Right? So, I'm
39:59going to go to the agent and say, "Hey,
40:01I just added a new page, page 11, as a
40:08pulling it all uh together section. In
40:12this uh page, I've added a conversation
40:19um based on
40:22the difficult
40:25conversation template. I'd like this uh
40:30conversation to be edited
40:34so that it aligns with the four steps of
40:38the grow model. I [snorts] can't spell
40:42edited. I can't spell anything today.
40:44Okay. See what it does.
40:48It's meandering
40:52and untangling.
40:55Okay. Let me take a look at the
40:56conversation tile you've added to
40:58understand its current structure. It's
41:00looking over the lesson. I can see the
41:02conversation tile. It's currently using
41:03a difficult conversation template with
41:05five agenda items. Let me restructure it
41:07to align with the grow models four steps
41:10and update the objectives and guardrails
41:12to match the grow coaching principle.
41:19Okay, it's making some edits to it.
41:29done. I've restructured the conversation
41:31to align with the grow model. Here's
41:34what changed. So, it changed the
41:36scenario. It changed the agenda. I mean,
41:39it built an entire AIdriven conversation
41:41based off of this course. So, now it's
41:44time to put all four grow steps together
41:47into a realistic coaching conversation.
41:49You'll coach Jordan, a pharmacy tech
41:51who's been struggling with balancing
41:52prescription accuracy and customer
41:54service during busy periods. Guide
41:56Jordan through a full grow model. We
41:58have the four steps here and what we
42:00need to accomplish.
42:02Holy crap. How cool is that? Right now,
42:04before I continue, I'm I'm going to go
42:06through this how I would normally do
42:07this. I just noticed like this doesn't
42:09look like the rest of the course. Um,
42:11for this page, can you add a hero
42:16section and title along with a along
42:21with some text about pulling it all to
42:26together?
42:28That way, this page feels like
42:32it's, you know, uh, consistent with the
42:37rest of the course.
42:40Wow.
42:44So, I'm just guiding it. It's doing the
42:46work. That's amazing.
42:51And you can see it just edited it. Gave
42:54it a little hero section. Put your
42:56skills to the test. You've practice each
42:57gross step individually. Now, it's time
42:59to bring it all together. So, it's
43:00giving content that's in context to the
43:03rest of the course, which is super super
43:05cool.
43:08We're going to let it generate that
43:10image and then we're going to give this
43:11uh this AI conversation a spin.
43:20Okay. So, it's gone ahead and done what
43:22I've asked here. I gave it a little bit
43:23of an intro. Here we have our AI
43:26conversation here. Now, before we demo
43:29it, we're going to make some some edits,
43:30right? So, I can edit the conversation.
43:33And this is where we could spend a lot
43:34of time um customizing this experience,
43:37right? So, we can change the voice, the
43:39character, the name, we can give it some
43:42personality, right? So, if we wanted
43:43Jordan to be really defensive or
43:46something along those lines, we could do
43:47that. We can do the situation. We have
43:49the agenda for the conversation. Um, but
43:52it generated all that, right, which is
43:54great. So, what I'm going to do is I am
43:56going to change the voice. We're going
43:57to go with um some interesting names
44:00here. We're going to go with Puck. He's
44:02a male. We're going to change the
44:03character. Um no, we'll do a female
44:06character. Uh cuz Jordan is a unisex
44:09name, right? So, I think we're good with
44:11that. And let's go back to the lesson
44:14and let's preview this thing and see how
44:16it works. I'm excited. Okay, bringing it
44:19all together. Okay, so here we have our
44:22conversation. Start the conversation.
44:25Thanks for calling me in. I understand
44:27there's been some feedback about
44:29customer service during busy times. It's
44:32been a little tough lately.
44:35>> Yeah, Jordan, thank you for uh stopping
44:37by today. You know, I wanted to talk to
44:39you about how you manage your customer
44:42service skills along with filling
44:44prescriptions. I've noticed that when it
44:46gets really busy out on uh in the in the
44:49pharmacy, you tend to drop uh your
44:51customer service skills. Um, and
44:54prioritizing customers while you're
44:55working to fill prescriptions.
44:59>> I see. It's difficult to balance
45:02everything when things get really crazy.
45:05What would success look like in this
45:07situation?
45:09>> Well, I'd love to hear from you. How
45:11would you define success? What would it
45:12look like for you to be able to manage
45:15filling prescriptions while also
45:17maintaining our high customer service
45:19standards here at Gilbert's?
45:22I think success would be ensuring every
45:25customer feels acknowledged even during
45:27peak hours while still maintaining the
45:30accuracy of prescriptions. It's about
45:33finding the right balance.
45:35Yeah, I I would totally agree with that.
45:37So, can we um agree to a plan forward on
45:40how you're going to accomplish this?
45:43What are some options that would work
45:46best for you?
45:48>> Oh, okay. What kind of options were you
45:51thinking of?
45:53>> Well, let me give you an example. Maybe
45:55it involves you letting me know when
45:58you're feeling overwhelmed. That way, I
45:59can get you some additional assistance.
46:01That way, our customers still get the
46:02help they need and you can still fill
46:05prescriptions. Would that be an option
46:06that works for you?
46:10>> That could definitely help. Also, maybe
46:14reorganizing some tasks during busy
46:16periods could streamline the process.
46:20Yeah, I'm definitely open to that. So,
46:22what sort of commitment can you make
46:23within the next week or two to
46:26accomplish these goals?
46:29>> I commit to implementing the proactive
46:32communication strategy to request
46:34assistance and I'll also draft a
46:36proposal for optimizing workflow during
46:38busy periods by next week.
46:41>> All right, I think that sounds really
46:42good. Thank you so much for taking the
46:44time to speak with me today, Jordan.
46:46you're doing a really great job and I
46:48cannot wait to see you better handle
46:50filling prescriptions and uh managing
46:53customer service.
46:56>> Thank you for the coaching. I feel more
46:58optimistic about finding solutions.
47:02>> Thank you. All right, so I just ended
47:04the chat there. Um and it did us uh Oh,
47:08there it goes. Okay, so it's analyzing
47:09the conversation. I didn't even know it
47:11was going to do that. Holy crap.
47:13Okay. So, it gives me uh a summary of
47:17what I did. So, uh progress goal, you
47:20effectively turn the question back to
47:21Jordan to let them define what success
47:23looks like. Reality, you moved very
47:26quickly to solutions without first
47:27exploring the current situation. Yes,
47:29that was my bad. Did options did will to
47:32commit. You let Jordan generate ideas.
47:34What was so cool about that is it it was
47:37snappy. I mean, it generated the audio.
47:39The conversation was almost
47:41instantaneous. and I can start over.
47:43Right? So, pretty amazing uh way that it
47:47uh did all of that. Right? So, the last
47:49thing I want to show um is uh I'm going
47:52to close out of that. And the last thing
47:55I want to customize is the theme. Right
47:58now, I think it did attempt to pull from
48:00the document before, but I I'm still
48:02going to show you how we can customize
48:03the theme uh colors and all of that
48:05stuff. So, I'm going to go into the
48:06theme options here, and this is where we
48:08can do things like upload a logo, change
48:10the background color, change text, all
48:13of that stuff. So, if I wanted to, I can
48:14come in here and upload uh my logo for
48:18Gilberts. I think I have that somewhere
48:20in here. Uh hidden way in my folders.
48:24Let's find the style guide brand assets
48:27logo. There's the logo there. Upload
48:30that.
48:32Uh and it puts the logo in there. We can
48:34also change um some of the color options
48:37down here. Um but I can also do some
48:40customization, right? So I can make it,
48:42you know, if I want to make it white, I
48:43can make it white. I can come in here,
48:45change the text. So maybe I want it to
48:47be, you know, um Poppins bold for
48:51headers and then Poppins
48:54um I don't know, regular for text. And
48:57then I can come in here and change the
48:59colors as well. So maybe um the color
49:02here, let me go find my style guide here
49:08and come back here. So maybe my main
49:11text color is going to be this. I'll
49:13copy that and I can come in here and
49:17change that here
49:21and it updates that. Right? And you can
49:22see it branded that throughout here.
49:24Right? And then maybe my accent color. I
49:27can come back here, pull in this blue
49:29color,
49:32and put that in there as well, right?
49:34And it updates that throughout the
49:36course as well. So you can see that used
49:39here as well. And I can spend a lot more
49:41time editing that, right? And so once
49:44we're done, we can share our project,
49:46right? We can share our lesson here. So,
49:48uh, there's a lot of other options up
49:50here. We can manage comments. So just
49:51like any other tool, we can send things
49:52for feedback. I also have analytics. So,
49:54if I'm sharing something from here for
49:56people to take, I can track that here as
49:58well. We have different course settings
50:00as well for grading, thumbnail,
50:02description, all of that stuff that you
50:04would do if you were publishing of the
50:05course. Um, and then we have options
50:07here where we can translate the course.
50:09We can add audio narration to the
50:11course, all of that sort of stuff. And
50:12then, of course, we have the option to
50:14share here where we can share to anyone
50:16on Tim's team. We can share a link
50:18directly from Mindsmith, copy the link
50:21to public. Um, and you can publish this
50:24out, download a SCRM package if you want
50:25to. And there are some more sharing
50:27options. You can export it to the web,
50:29get an HTML file that you can host
50:31externally. You can do all of that here
50:34uh directly from Mindsmith. So, it's a
50:38pretty amazing tool. I mean, I built a
50:40whole Grow Coaching uh course here. You
50:43can see we did a lot of collaborative
50:45work with the AI agent, did some of our
50:48own manual edits, but a lot of the
50:50features in here allow us to very easily
50:54create an instructionally sound course,
50:56incorporate meaningful interactivity and
50:58practice. I mean, even think about some
50:59of these scenarios, how long it would
51:01have taken me to write and build these
51:03from scratch, not to mention um the AI
51:07conversation. I mean, that's amazing in
51:10and of itself, right? Um, so yeah,
51:14pretty amazing tool. I can't wait for
51:16you all to check it out. All right, so
51:17that was an overview of Mindsmith and
51:19how you can start using AI as part of
51:21your instructional design and e-learning
51:24development process. Now, as I mentioned
51:26earlier, the folks at Mindsmith are
51:28sponsoring our March 2026 design
51:30challenge inside the e-learning
51:32designers academy. And this month, we're
51:33giving away a $100 Amazon gift card, a
51:36free year of Mindsmith, and a completely
51:38brand new iPad Air, which is amazing.
51:41So, make sure to check out all the
51:43details down below. This month is not
51:45the month to sit on the sideline. So,
51:47dive into our challenge, build something
51:49new for your portfolio, and don't
51:50forget, you can get 3 months off of
51:52MindSmith completely free when you use
51:54the coupon code Tim Slade. So, again,
51:57check out all those details down below.
51:58As always, I want to thank you so much
52:00for watching. If you haven't done so
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52:13It's where we help new instructional
52:15designers and e-learning developers grow
52:17their careers by focusing on skills
52:19first. Otherwise, my name is Tim Slate
52:21and until next time, I'll see you
52:23around.

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