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0:00[Music]
0:19hey everybody this is James Lindsay you
0:21are listening to the new discourses
0:23podcast and it's time to talk about
0:26propaganda I think this is an extremely
0:29important topic I mean some of you will
0:30have heard the recent new discourses
0:32podcast that I did that um that uh we
0:35are the fake news now where I talked a
0:37little bit about um the different ways I
0:40guess that uh not just that uh that
0:44there's propaganda and fake news or
0:46whatever you want all over social media
0:50but also that we participate in it that
0:53that we are the purveyors of a great
0:55deal of the fake news now that say CNN
0:58and the big networks are are less
1:00reputable and this podcast kind of
1:02Builds on that but I want to get into
1:04not just propaganda but agitation and
1:07propaganda agit prop the original
1:09concept for this podcast was just to do
1:11a bullet about agit prop which I'll
1:13probably do subsequent to this now uh
1:16but the idea is that there's a lot to
1:19propaganda there's kind of two sides to
1:21propaganda agitation and propaganda are
1:24are put together this is that term like
1:26I said agit prop and if you actually
1:28read Lenin as we'll discuss or you read
1:32uh a lot of the different um communist
1:35literature or in fact if you read the
1:37Nazi literature you see that there's
1:39this call for agitation and propaganda
1:42and they're not quite the same thing so
1:44I decided when I started to look into
1:45this to arrange for a bullet that would'
1:47be worth talking about the bigger
1:49picture but the the let me just like I
1:51like to do a lot of the times give you
1:52the punch line up front totally
1:55deviating from the notes I made for you
1:57uh taking away all of my Artful here the
2:01the big punchline with this and what
2:03will be the thrust of the bullets
2:05episode about this is that uh agitation
2:09and propaganda are two sides of a coin
2:13that are kind of everywhere we live in
2:15this propaganda Rich
2:17environment um they're not the same
2:20thing propaganda is more like a broad
2:23educational Mis educational I should say
2:25program it's misinformation and
2:27disinformation uh to get people to
2:30misunderstand the circumstances that
2:31they're in so you know when we talk
2:34about um George soros's reflexivity
2:36propaganda might be to create the
2:38distance as he describes it between true
2:41belief and sorry people's belief and
2:44reality or true belief and in what's
2:46actually believed Soros says that all of
2:49our uh social change the big picture
2:53theory of change that he has takes place
2:54in the gap between what people perceive
2:57and what's really true and that can be
3:00an exploitable environment so propaganda
3:02is almost like preparing the operational
3:05Battlefield or throwing down as Soros
3:08phrases it guideposts for people to be
3:11misled uh about what's going on around
3:13them or what they should do about it
3:15agitation on the other hand is designed
3:17to get people to take action it's
3:19designed to elicit an emotional response
3:22a discomfort an enthusiasm it doesn't
3:25have to be a negative or a positive
3:26emotion it could be either one to
3:28agitate their state so that they will
3:30desire to take action or will directly
3:33go take action and so they're not quite
3:35the same thing like I said what I really
3:39want people to understand is that in in
3:41the previous podcast was about this as
3:43well is that we live in a propaganda
3:47Rich environment we're completely
3:49surrounded by agitation and propaganda
3:51all the time and I want people to come
3:53away understanding what especially
3:55agitation looks like uh but we're going
3:57to talk about the nature of propaganda
3:59as well and the reason is because I want
4:01people to get comfortable identifying
4:04when they are encountering agitation or
4:06agit prop uh if we kind of use the term
4:10of art I want them to get used to
4:12feeling to to being able to identify the
4:14feeling of having read something
4:17online or encountered something in the
4:19news or something to that effect and
4:23having that emotional response elicited
4:26whether it's a positive emotion or a
4:27negative emotion that's leading them
4:29them to feel like we have to do
4:31something and we have to do something
4:33now uh the agitation is so um strongly
4:38built around and the reason I want
4:41people to be able to recognize that is
4:42so that they can cool off so they can
4:44step back when you can you when you can
4:47identify the manipulated emotion that's
4:49coming up you can take a step of
4:52critical distance away from it and say
4:53hang on I'm not going to go that way
4:56what do they want why is this happening
4:59is this even really true and you can do
5:01that slowing down thing you can tell
5:03like when a current thing explodes all
5:05over the Internet and every something
5:08happens and everybody has to go give
5:09their take even though they don't really
5:11know what's going on and everybody's an
5:12immediate expert in the situation that
5:15emotional state is very similar to the
5:17emotional state of the agitation part of
5:19agit prop and so you know just kind of
5:23to dive in properly the big thing you
5:27need to understand is that we live in a
5:30completely propaganda saturated
5:33environment you do not go through if you
5:35are connected if you're listening to a
5:37podcast so you're connected if you are
5:39connected to broadcast or social media
5:43at all you are subjected to propaganda I
5:46could be the whole guy if you go to the
5:49store and see advertisements and so on
5:51you're being exposed to propaganda as
5:53well but it's a little bit different
5:55because the propaganda that I'm
5:57particularly interested in although
5:58advertising and marketing do count the
6:01and I'll talk about that in a second the
6:04propaganda I'm interested in is the
6:05political Warfare variety the the kind
6:09that is seeking with hostile intent not
6:12just the desire to make a profit off of
6:14you but with hostile intent to
6:16manipulate your emotions manipulate your
6:18beliefs so as to create a favorable
6:23political or social outcome for some uh
6:27for the group that that's putting it
6:28together uh and again the Hostile intent
6:30is critical for political
6:32Warfare um you can argue I guess we
6:36could be Communists and argue that
6:37advertisers have hostile intent but
6:39that's not necessarily true they might
6:41be trying to inform you of their product
6:44and just kind of you know overselling it
6:46a little bit because yeah they want your
6:48money and yeah it is not based on the
6:50value of the product but the perceived
6:52value that you will part with your money
6:54etc etc but I don't want to get lost in
6:55those weeds the fact is though that you
6:58live in an environment
7:00that's so propaganda saturated so agit
7:03propop in fact agitation saturated that
7:06I don't even want you to think of it as
7:08being like something that happens it's
7:10like characteristic of the space you
7:13live in effect in a propaganda battle
7:15space you live and I've said this before
7:18in different contexts uh including here
7:21on the podcast you live in a battlefield
7:24or a battle space is a better way to put
7:27it because it's not technically a
7:28battlefield and so you have to be
7:30equipped to deal with that Battlefield
7:31and the weapons of this particular
7:34psychological and political Warfare
7:36Battlefield that I'm talking about what
7:38Robert Malone calls fifth generational
7:40Warfare the the weapons are primarily
7:44agitation and propaganda uh the the the
7:47bad guys tend to call it misinformation
7:49disinformation and Mal information not
7:51entirely
7:53incorrectly so we have to understand
7:57propaganda to protect ourselves whether
7:59we want to or not we have to be able to
8:01do that punchline and understand the
8:05emotional responses elicited by
8:08agitation so that we don't get LED
8:11around by it we have to be able to
8:13understand the uh the effects of what
8:17George Soros called fertile fallacies
8:20which are deliberate errors planted into
8:23people's belief systems in other words
8:25agitation and propaganda that are
8:27designed because they're that's the f
8:29policy part the fertile part is that
8:31they're designed to cause people to take
8:33specific actions that manifest certain
8:34things in the world according to his
8:36theory of change that he calls
8:37reflexivity so we have to be able to to
8:40detect not just detect actually
8:43reflexive environments which I've done a
8:45couple podcasts about and talked about
8:47you know various places repeatedly we
8:49also have to learn how to identify that
8:51a reflexive campaign is happening and
8:53resist it we have to be able to opt out
8:56and help other people opt out of the
8:59reflection Ive push of the reflexive
9:01Madness the mass formation psychosis
9:04that comes along with agit prop and so I
9:09cannot stress enough how important it is
9:12to understand that if we are online at
9:15all active on social media as a reader
9:18or as a contributor you don't even have
9:20to post if you're just scrolling if
9:22you're just looking if you're paying
9:23attention to any news media whether it's
9:25mainstream or alt media at all we are
9:28the fake news now all Media or indeed if
9:31you live in a modern technological
9:33society which because you're listening
9:34to a podcast you do if that's you if any
9:38of that applies to you then you live
9:41whether you like it or not in a
9:43propaganda battle space and that's where
9:45we have to start is by Framing out that
9:48we actually live because of the nature
9:51of whether you want to call it Fifth
9:52generational Warfare or psychological
9:54warfare or political Warfare or S war or
9:58just the technolog iCal world that we
10:00live in we actually live all the time on
10:04a
10:05battlefield it's like we've been
10:07deployed to war except that the war is
10:09taking place for our minds for our
10:13thoughts for our beliefs and it's taking
10:16place in our devices in our living rooms
10:20everywhere now this state of affairs
10:23kind of ironically this is sort of fun
10:25for me the State of Affairs historically
10:28some people have called this State of
10:29Affairs
10:31postmodernity where you can't ever be
10:33sure of what's real because everything
10:35is you know this kind of barrage of
10:38conflicting narratives and messages and
10:41images and symbols and meanings and it's
10:44the the the meanings themselves of all
10:46of those symbols and narratives and
10:48every other thing are determined by the
10:50powerful interests that are creating and
10:52disseminating them you know and their
10:54their reach and and and Effectiveness
10:57has something to do with their content
10:58but more to do with the power of and and
11:00say money behind the groups that are
11:02putting them out and many people have
11:05just kind of acquiesced to this today
11:08including so-called conservatives or
11:11right-wingers um they political enemies
11:1340 or 50 years ago like John franois
11:15leotard were writing books called the
11:17postmodern condition or in the 1980s and
11:201990s um John bodard was writing about
11:24the desert of the real in his book
11:26simulation or simulakra and simulation
11:29maybe I say that one backwards every
11:31time if it's not in front of me
11:32whichever way it goes it doesn't matter
11:35and a lot of these socalled postmodern
11:38traditionalists that I've identified on
11:40the woke right explicitly endorse
11:43postmodernism as a tool the right has to
11:46adopt because the more sane of them
11:49though some of them are nakedly saying
11:50it because of the uh ability to use post
11:53modern tools as an Avenue to power but
11:56others are that are a little more Savvy
11:58and a little more honest
11:59are saying look the modern era is over
12:02the belief the the time when we could
12:04believe that we could grasp and
12:06ascertain reality outside of powerful
12:09interests and narratives and value sets
12:12that those people those narratives
12:15possess and carry with them that time is
12:17simply over so we live in postmodernity
12:20therefore we have to pick up the tools
12:21of postmodernism whether we disagree
12:24with them or not in some sense and like
12:27I said they some of these people who
12:30James who well several of the people
12:33operating in in in the British woke
12:36right space Carl Benjamin explicitly
12:38calls himself on his ex bio a postmodern
12:43traditionalist um we've seen articles
12:45from people at American reformer arguing
12:47that's the Christian nationalist
12:49magazine that I got to publish a rewrite
12:51of the Communist Manifesto we've seen
12:53some of them arguing explicitly for the
12:56need to embrace postmodernism among
12:59conservatives um we could expand upon
13:03others I'm sure the Lotus Eaters group
13:05you know not all Lotus Eaters but uh
13:08many of the Lotus Eaters are in in line
13:11with Carl Benjamin for example um I'm
13:14trying to remember exactly who an
13:15American reformer if it was Aaron Ren
13:18who who argued that we need
13:19postmodernism it's hard to tell because
13:22they have a bad habit or good habit I
13:24guess depending on if they are true to
13:26their principles of deleting things that
13:28they WR before so that you can't go find
13:31them after they've been exposed so at
13:33any
13:34rate there's this belief that this
13:37propaganda battle space life that we now
13:40live is indicative of postmodernity and
13:44so since we just now live in
13:46postmodernity where everything's
13:47narratives and nothing is technically
13:50true or maybe it is but we can't
13:52ascertain that because what we perceive
13:55to be true is actually just a function
13:56of power and therefore narrative
14:00campaigns and reflexive campaigns and
14:02the power that they D are able to to to
14:05manipulate and and effect in the world
14:07are really the closest Arbiters that we
14:10have to truth that that a lot of people
14:12have just accepted this and and think
14:14that we need to just kind of lurch into
14:16a post-modern world um Mike naana who I
14:20worked with extensively you know in the
14:22grievance studies Affair the he did the
14:24documentary about it refers to these as
14:26denominations of Truth which I don't
14:29I I do see the gap between what he's
14:32talking about and what Michelle Fuko the
14:35postmodernist uh called regimes of truth
14:38but
14:40um basically he's saying that you know
14:42there's these kind
14:44of denominations like denominations of
14:47Christianity that disagree on various
14:49doctrines and various interpretations of
14:52scripture or whatever else and that
14:55instead of being say denominations of
14:57Christianity we now just have
14:58denominations of Truth we have
15:00completely distinct interpretive frames
15:04by which people determine what is valid
15:06and invalid and I don't accept any of
15:09this I do find Na's uh articulation
15:13interesting and compelling these
15:15denominations of truth but I don't
15:17accept that this is the best way to
15:18think of what's going on and I don't
15:20accept that we should lean into that
15:23space in fact I think it's an error I
15:25reject that cuz um while postmodernity
15:29does describe a condition of the
15:31world um we don't have to accept that
15:34that's just how it is right it it we can
15:37actually accept that there is another
15:39layer to what's going on here which is
15:42that so much of this propaganda battle
15:45space that we actually live in is
15:48deliberate and a lot of it does not have
15:51to be it does not have to be the case
15:55that um we are subjected by our own
15:58governments to rampant psychological
16:00warfare it does not have to be the case
16:03that in fact we are subject to foreign
16:06influence campaigns to the kind of
16:08unrestricted degree that we are now
16:10through social media there are steps
16:12that can be taken how do I know there
16:14are steps that can be taken well not
16:16that the Chinese government the
16:20CCP um not that they don't do
16:24psychological warfare on their own
16:25people because they certainly do but
16:28they're very good at boxing out foreign
16:30influence campaigns so not to say that
16:32their firewall is the best thing in the
16:34world but it's at least in a sense a
16:36step in the proof of concept realm that
16:38it is possible that for example the
16:40United States was never in it was never
16:42incumbent upon the United States under a
16:45doctrine of free speech if you want to
16:47make it about Tik Tok that's fine but
16:49certainly the apps red note and deep
16:52seek which were two CCP Tools Red note
16:55in fact is is uh xia hongu which is a
16:59little red book which is the name also
17:01of ma Dong's famous book of quotations
17:04that all the red guards carried and then
17:07deep seek is their ripoff um chat GPT
17:11somebody on Twitter said that then we
17:13should call it chat CCP which is kind of
17:16funny uh except a lot of the Boomers out
17:18there are don't don't know chat GPT is
17:20anyway and so they're not going to get
17:22the joke and it's just going to confuse
17:23things but maybe that's for the best but
17:25the point is that we were under no
17:27obligation to accept Chinese apps that
17:30definitely have spyware and whatnot into
17:33our homes or into our app stores here in
17:36the west just because they became
17:38available it could have been made very
17:40difficult to get them how do we know it
17:42could be made difficult to get them
17:43remember parlor paror came out as a
17:45competitor to Twitter when it became
17:47very obvious that Twitter was Heavy in
17:49the censorship and somehow it was able
17:51to be completely destroyed and not not
17:54allowed on any of the app stores uh you
17:56couldn't download parlor and if
17:58basically killed the app um and then you
18:01know there's also you know cloud storage
18:04issues that they could they were able to
18:06to manipulate with things like this it's
18:07certainly the case that they could have
18:09excluded at least excluded this from
18:12Easy um being easily obtained we there
18:15there are steps at least in principle
18:17that could be taken but I I digress and
18:20I don't want to digress because I want
18:21to read to you a few interesting things
18:22today um but what I think that just
18:26acquiescing to postmodernity and
18:28therefore well we live in postmodernity
18:30so we're all postmodernists now what I
18:32think that that misses is that this
18:34propaganda space we live in isn't just
18:37an artifact of our technological
18:39civilization although it partly is it is
18:42also a deliberately constructed battle
18:44space that we have capacities to do
18:46something about we do not have to
18:49denominational eyesee around truths just
18:51because we've had a democratization of
18:53who can speak we also don't have to
18:56subject ourselves to nearly as much
18:58psychological warfare as we are if we
19:02put some careful thought into that um
19:04and most importantly we do not have to
19:07accept that this is simply the way that
19:09it is and accept the false projection of
19:13this postmodern hyper reality onto the
19:15reality we actually inhabit in other
19:18words we can become aware of the fact
19:20that we're being propagandized and being
19:23agitated and we can take a step back
19:24from that uh and then when we do we're
19:27going to interact with information
19:28differently and it may not be the exact
19:32same kind of experience that
19:33postmodernity would describe and it's
19:35not nearly as hopeless or
19:37nihilistic um so in other words by
19:41understanding alone that we're in a
19:43propaganda information battle space that
19:46is using psychological and political
19:48Warfare not merely advertising and some
19:50of that from hostile entities from other
19:53agenda driven entities we can actually
19:55separate ourselves psychologically from
19:58the battle space and also from the
20:02meaninglessness that postmodern
20:04existence carries with it thus we can
20:07carry on as people with our dignity
20:10intelligence and our goodness intact
20:12without having to swim in the same toxic
20:15morass that leftists in the 70s and 80s
20:18were swimming
20:19in and there are a lot of reasons I
20:22believe that we can actually do that
20:24I've just given you some but frankly
20:26we're dealing with the same problems on
20:29social media and ALT
20:31media
20:34uh with this kind of propaganda problem
20:38and and that's causing this damage to us
20:41and putting us in this kind of
20:42postmodern condition that we've you know
20:45believe we found ourselves in
20:47previously but we're in a different one
20:49now than we used to be things have
20:51changed so I want you to go back in time
20:53with me 8 years or 4 years 5 years
20:59we've had two gigantic psychological
21:01active measures in this battle space
21:03Trump derangement syndrome and
21:05covid-19 and the re those will not work
21:08on us again not the way that they
21:11delivered them CNN MSNBC all the late
21:16night comedy shows going on and railing
21:18about how terrible Trump is and how
21:20great the vaccine is will never fool us
21:23again we we have realized that network
21:27television for a set of reasons that we
21:30don't fully understand we have some
21:31insights we know ESG is probably
21:34connected to it we know that
21:35pharmaceutical advertising is probably
21:37connected to it we don't know for sure
21:40how they all ended up in Total Lock step
21:43though that has not yet been brought to
21:46light and has not yet had accountability
21:48brought to it but we were much more
21:52vulnerable to a kind of of propaganda
21:55active measure like the Trump
21:57derangement syndrome or the co 19
21:59measures several years ago than we are
22:02now and those particular active measures
22:05and the literally the technological and
22:08information infrastructure that enabled
22:11them to attack us so successfully as
22:14societies was pierced almost completely
22:16by a very skillful application of Just
22:18Two Words which are fake news and when
22:22we start to realize that hey in a very
22:25kind of yeah fuk codian way we we are
22:28the fake news now or if you'd rather a
22:30bodri Arian way um that we are the fake
22:33news now uh we can have a again a
22:38stepping back a a kind of critical
22:40distance from the battle space that
22:42allows us to understand that we're being
22:44manipulated much more than we think we
22:46are that was the point of my podcast
22:48that I gave a couple weeks ago about
22:51being the fake news now where I wanted
22:53to paint the picture for you that a lot
22:55of your experience on social media is
22:57not at all organic
22:59right and that we are participants in a
23:02very not organic process so in kind of
23:06in Stark disagreement to the
23:08postmodernists whether we talk about the
23:10leftists on uh you know 50 years ago or
23:14we talk about the so-called
23:15traditionalists postmodern
23:17traditionalists that woke right now in
23:20Stark disagreement to all of that we can
23:22actually see reality through all of the
23:26projection it is actually possible we
23:29can pierce the veil of the Distortion
23:32but we have to know that it's happening
23:34fake news as a phrase just two words
23:37that Donald Trump used so so
23:39successfully that spread like wildfire
23:41was able as a kind of prophylactic meme
23:46to allow us to pierce that reality it
23:49also opened us opened us up to a
23:51different vulnerability which is that if
23:54the if the mainstream media is fake news
23:56then alt media must be real news and you
23:59have people believing complete Wing nuts
24:01just because they're saying things that
24:03the real news wouldn't dare say which
24:06might be because they're false or made
24:08up or salacious or crazy
24:12um we also are vulnerable to another
24:15kind of
24:16propagandizing here's the the classic
24:18critical theory propaganda by the way we
24:20become more susceptible to that by
24:21losing the official institution and
24:24which is everything you've heard so far
24:26is a lie right so we're going to tell
24:28you uh they won't let us talk about this
24:32while you talk about it on a gigantic
24:34show Tucker Carlson um that that's we're
24:38susceptible to another another kind of
24:40propaganda so again the point of the
24:43podcast is to make us more aware of this
24:45so I want us to understand what this
24:46battle space looks like I want to go
24:48back kind of historically as to what it
24:50looks like um and I want you it's it's
24:54useful if you have the time to go back
24:56and listen to the we are the fake News
24:57Now podcast has to understand we're
24:59talking about foreign influence
25:01campaigns we're talking about direct you
25:02know domestic influence campaigns
25:05talking about our governments we're
25:06talking about just influencer networks
25:08we're talking about people who can buy
25:10bots which I think probably anybody can
25:13I don't know how to buy bots but I think
25:14people know how to buy bots we're
25:16talking about all kinds of social media
25:18manipulations right um but I really do
25:21want to stress also the foreign
25:23influence campaign part you're probably
25:25being misled by Foreign agents
25:28pretending to be Maga you probably
25:31are I probably am too uh I strongly
25:35recommend that if you see a large
25:38account that's influential on social
25:40media especially if it's Anonymous and
25:42you don't know that person in person
25:44that you should be very very suspicious
25:46of it you should not take it for granted
25:49you should not treat it as representing
25:51your interests some of them are Eastern
25:53European some of them are Malaysian some
25:55of them are Qatari or Sudanese some of
25:59these are Russian they're infiltrators
26:03too we should be very careful with
26:06that and speaking of those particular
26:09groups one brand of propaganda and this
26:11kind of leads into what I want to share
26:13with you very much more specifically one
26:16brand of propaganda that we're
26:17encountering now is pro-nazi propaganda
26:19pro- Hitler propaganda which kind of is
26:22shocking at least if you're
26:24older and that's very common on X at
26:27least probably other corners of the
26:29internet that are less Savory as well
26:32but X has become kind of a hot bed for
26:34it other Corners would include things
26:36like 4chan and gab I think but ax has
26:40got an awful lot it's apparently as far
26:42as I can tell getting slightly less now
26:45but there was a huge flare up of it over
26:47the last 2 to three months that got kind
26:50of so out of hand that normal people
26:53noticed um and it's very alarming but
26:55it's also very effective so the question
26:57we have to ask our is are we prepared
27:00for flagrant pro-nazi and pro- Hitler
27:03propaganda well like I said if you're
27:05older if you're in your 30s or 40s you
27:09probably are because we were especially
27:13people 40 and up have been deeply
27:14ingrained to
27:16find that kind of material absolutely
27:19shocking and reprehensible if not
27:22offensive and that offers us some
27:25measure of protection at least initially
27:27we can get worned down it can be eroded
27:29through repetition through familiarity
27:31through people in our networks also
27:33starting to repeat it maybe they are in
27:36contact with more of the younger people
27:37but we also have to ask the question
27:38I've been asking in a lot of our my
27:40podcast lately is are our children
27:42prepared and I have to say no they are
27:44not
27:45prepared under 30 you are not prepared
27:49to encounter pro-nazi propaganda and
27:51it's alarming and I think this is kind
27:53of being borne out in where we're seeing
27:56the concentrations of right Wing or if
27:58you want to call it right-wing I guess
28:01far right alt-right whatever uh
28:04radicalization is very very common
28:05especially in young uh young white men
28:09but also young men over overall who
28:11identify as conservative and to a degree
28:13young women as
28:16well and we we we need to be alarmed
28:19about this why well let's talk about
28:21Hitler specifically he understood the
28:24power of a brainwashed and activated
28:25youth like most dictators through
28:27history have lenon understood it Stalin
28:29understood it Mao understood it all of
28:31them had special things targeting the
28:33youth the Red Guard and Ma China were
28:35the youth and Hitler was very clear
28:38about it that he understood he had the
28:39Hitler Youth he had the the BDS that was
28:42the girls version
28:44um he also understood the power of
28:46propaganda maybe at least at the time
28:49uniquely in history in the its capacity
28:52to create a brainwashed and activated
28:55youth he knew how to play off of their
28:57ideal ISM their frustration their
29:00various grievances but also their love
29:02of country their desire for greatness
29:05and then he famously remarked about
29:07those who resisted him if I might
29:09paraphrase because I don't know the
29:10exact quote well what are you you will
29:13pass away and we have your children he
29:16understood that he could brainwash the
29:18youth which would be the future of
29:20Germany he also famously remark to quote
29:23him um he who owns the youth gains the
29:26future so we have to worry about the
29:29fact that while you personally if you're
29:32an older adult might find this pro-
29:34Hitler and pro-nazi propaganda alarming
29:38and um egregious and
29:42offensive and a problem your children
29:44might not or your children's friends
29:47might not and
29:49eventually your children's friends will
29:52influence your children and I hate to
29:54tell you this but they will also likely
29:56influence you so it's possible that this
30:00gets eroded unless we are able to start
30:02taking this seriously and drawing some
30:04clear lines around it but also that's
30:05going to require understanding this
30:07agitation and propaganda hence the
30:09podcast so some of this pro- Hitler
30:12propaganda that were seeing is like I
30:15already said it's that most typical kind
30:18that appeals to young people in every
30:19generation which is the critical theory
30:22style the message is they don't want you
30:25to know this the power don't want you to
30:27know this or in fact
30:28your elders don't want you to know the
30:30real truth but we're here to tell it to
30:32you this is very seductive so one of the
30:34kinds of propaganda that you see a lot
30:36on X in favor of Hitler Believe It or
30:41Not goes like this what about his
30:43speeches bro have you heard his speeches
30:46so the idea is that they're trading off
30:48of the idea that people on the left went
30:51Bonkers and hated Trump and then what
30:53happened was many people such as myself
30:56finally got convinced to actually listen
30:57to Trump's speeches or Trump's own words
31:01or interviews and realized that the
31:03media was mischaracterizing him so if
31:05they did it to Trump they probably have
31:07done it to Hitler too so if you actually
31:09go back and listen to Hitler's speeches
31:11they're not at all what your dumb
31:14idiotic uneducated belief about
31:18Hitler is going to sound like they have
31:22they get these kids they tell them oh
31:25yeah you think he's going to go out
31:26there and preach all this hate because
31:27cuz he was just this awful guy well
31:29listen to the speech and it's all about
31:31the greatness of Germany how he has this
31:33Vision how everything's going to be
31:34better in his socialist program for
31:37Germany socialist being the the other
31:40part of National Socialist right so
31:43we're going to lift up Germany it's
31:44going to be great everybody's going to
31:46have enough living room everybody's
31:48going to have enough space everybody's
31:49going to have enough stuff Germany's
31:51going to be the greatest nation we're
31:52going to be super rich Germany Germany
31:54Germany we're going to get our our DRS
31:56back all these people who have insulted
31:58us and held us down are going to be Tak
32:01uh you know out of the way and we're
32:02going to rise and Germany's going to be
32:03great and it's all positive positive
32:05positive
32:06positive so the message is listen to his
32:09speeches he doesn't say any of that
32:11crazy awful stuff he's accused of all
32:14he's talking about is love of country
32:16making things great again Etc and trying
32:19to link the ethos of trump and the
32:22circumstances that the left treated
32:24Trump to say well guess what same thing
32:26with Hitler he wasn't as bad as
32:28everybody says in fact he was one of the
32:30heroes of history and they don't want
32:32you to know that your elders especially
32:34don't want you to know that and your
32:35parents you know they probably are good
32:37people but and if this sounds like the
32:40same kind of grooming that the trans
32:41people did it is uh Hitler was a groomer
32:45these neo-nazis are groomers the Russian
32:47influence networks that are pushing
32:49Neo-Nazi stuff are groomers uh but your
32:51parents are probably good people but
32:53they've just been miseducated too
32:55there's a whole post-war liberal
32:56consensus the PWC that's out there uh
33:00this post-war consensus has convinced us
33:02that Hitler was the you know absolute
33:04Zenith of evil and you know they lied
33:08about him and that's the message that's
33:10and it works and they play the speeches
33:13and people go listen to the speeches
33:15they've been archiving and translating
33:17the
33:18speeches and they like I said they're
33:20very pro- nationalistic speeches most of
33:22his speeches were what propaganda the
33:25speeches were propaganda the speeches
33:28were a sales pitch for the Nazi regime
33:31that was also eventually well first it
33:34was Waging War on Europe had massive
33:36Imperial Ambitions was was was um
33:40killing in large numbers was subjugating
33:43other countries was depriving say the
33:45Polish people of their uh their land and
33:49their Villages and their homes so that
33:51the Germans could have living room leban
33:53STM or something like that and so
33:58there was like you know my friend used
34:00to work I think I've said this a bunch
34:02of times before my friend used to work
34:03in in customer service and he said that
34:06their motto was in the department was
34:09was um somebody else sells the dream we
34:12service the nightmare right so the
34:14speeches are sell the dream Germany's
34:15going to be great Germany's going to be
34:17positive if you've listened to my
34:18podcasts about M from Molita mosman's
34:20book you hear that that's what she was
34:22into and she never really she says that
34:24she never really realized as a Nazi as a
34:27Hitler youth she was of course
34:29anti-semitic and all this but she never
34:30really realized that there was this
34:32rampant hatred at the heart of national
34:35socialism that there's this rampant evil
34:37lust for power because it was all about
34:39making Germany great well this
34:42propaganda is very uh very uh alluring
34:46for people it's people are very
34:47susceptible to it and so we can talk
34:50about I'm going to talk I'm going to
34:51mention two and talk about one um I said
34:54you know the speeches are propaganda and
34:56the propagandas are kind of sales pitch
34:58there's kind of these two experts on
35:00propaganda one is considered the father
35:02of propaganda aka the father of public
35:04relations and or also the father of
35:07advertising and that's I forget what the
35:09relation is Sigman Freud's grandson or
35:11something that that affect uh Edward
35:13bernes very famously um so he outlined
35:17that propaganda and public relations and
35:19advertising are basically the same thing
35:22and you know you can go look into his
35:24writing about it I'm not going to talk
35:25about bernes here I'm going to talk a
35:27little bit more about a guy named Jack
35:30alol uh Jac alol was a Frenchman and in
35:33the very early I think 1970s
35:36approximately 1970 he published a book
35:38called propaganda where he gives a
35:40modern study of propaganda and he says
35:43the same thing that propaganda public
35:45relations advertising are basically all
35:47the same thing but he also says
35:48something more profound that I've
35:50alluded to several times already or said
35:52several times already that propaganda is
35:54actually the other side of the coin to a
35:56technological civilization if you are in
35:59a technological civilization then there
36:01is propaganda and without propaganda he
36:04contends there is no technological
36:07civilization and so the world that we
36:09live in with a high-tech civilization
36:11like I said earlier if you consume media
36:13if you are on social media if you
36:15contribute to social media if you merely
36:18watch the news you are in a propaganda
36:20battle space um Jo Al uh in his book
36:25propaganda makes a very
36:28serious case that technological society
36:31and propaganda are completely
36:33inextricable from one another in fact in
36:36the preface to his book I'm not going to
36:37read very much of his book I'm going to
36:39read a little bit of the forward to his
36:40book or introduction to his book written
36:42by Conrad Kellen but in his I'm read a
36:45couple paragraphs from him um or a few
36:48sentences from him really but what uh
36:52what y says in the preface to his book
36:55is talking about propaganda he calls it
36:57an instrument he says this instrument he
36:59refers to it as a weapon right and
37:02Hitler actually referred to it as a
37:03weapon or a tool also so this instrument
37:07he says belongs to the technological
37:09Universe shares its characteristics and
37:11its
37:13indissolubly I can't even say that word
37:15indissolubly it cannot be dissolved from
37:18indissolubly linked to it so this
37:20instrument propaganda belongs to the
37:22technological Universe shares its
37:23characteristics and cannot be separated
37:25from it not only he says as propaganda
37:28itself a technique it is also an
37:30indispensable condition for the
37:32development of technical progress and
37:34the establishment of a technological
37:37civilization and
37:40so that's um quite a a view of how
37:46intrinsic it is to our lives in this
37:49Advanced civilization that we have or
37:51this technological civilization that we
37:52have especially equipped with social
37:54media that ilol could barely have
37:56imagined
37:58um how much we are exposed to a
38:01propaganda battle space uh so I'll read
38:04to you actually from il's book but I'm
38:07going to read like I said the um the
38:10introduction which is by uh this other
38:14guy Conrad Kellen and um you have to
38:18pardon me I was reading from the the
38:20preface a second ago so here's how he
38:23starts off he says jaal's view of
38:25propaganda and his approach to the study
38:26of propaganda are knew the principal
38:28difference between his thought edifice
38:31and most other literature on propaganda
38:33is that alol regards propaganda as a
38:36sociological phenomenon rather than
38:38something made by certain people for
38:40certain purposes propaganda exists and
38:44thrives it is the Siamese twin of our
38:47technological Society only in the
38:50technological Society can there be
38:52anything of the type and order of
38:54magnitude of modern propaganda which is
38:57with us forever and only with the all
39:00pervading effects that flow from
39:02propaganda can the technological Society
39:04hold itself together and further expand
39:08now you might say that this is jacal
39:10making a pretty good argument that once
39:12we reached a sufficient level of
39:14technological progress we entered out of
39:16modernity into
39:18postmodernity uh therefore we all have
39:19to be postmodernists but I think that
39:22even as elol makes the point in his book
39:25that it is possible to fundamentally
39:28understand the nature of propaganda and
39:30thus be able to still grasp Reality by
39:33stepping back from it but here's here
39:36here's uh here's an important
39:38explanation about who falls for
39:40propaganda most people this is Conrad
39:44Kellen in the in
39:45Al's introduction most people are easy
39:49prey for propaganda Al says because of
39:52their firm but entirely erroneous
39:55conviction that it is composed only of
39:57lies and Tall stories and that
40:00conversely what is true cannot be
40:03propaganda so I don't know how many
40:04times I'm going to beat that drum before
40:06I die but I've done that short bullet
40:09podcast telling the truth falsely as a
40:13form of
40:14propaganda I've talked about communism
40:17marrying a truth to a lie which I
40:19borrowed from Julie beeing in beneath
40:21sheep's
40:24clothing this is the way propaganda t
40:27tends to work it's by blending truths
40:29and lies it's not just telling lies or
40:32telling tall stories it's sometimes it's
40:34telling only truths but telling them in
40:36a way so that they mislead you into
40:38believing the wrong thing or telling
40:40only truths so that their context is
40:43missing so that people will conclude
40:45that it means something other than it
40:47does
40:49so he says alol says that most people
40:53fall for propaganda because of their
40:56entire erroneous conviction that it is
40:59composed only of lies and Tall stories
41:01and that conversely what is true cannot
41:03be propaganda but modern propaganda has
41:06long disdained the ridiculous lies of
41:09the past and outmoded forms of
41:12propaganda it operates instead with many
41:15different kinds of Truth Hal truth
41:18limited truth truth out of context even
41:21Geral always insisted that verm communic
41:25be as accurate as possible
41:28why because if you get caught outright
41:30lying you're known as a liar and that
41:33makes it very difficult for you to be
41:34believed and for your propaganda to be
41:36swallowed in fact Hitler in the parts of
41:39I'm going to read to you from m conf in
41:41a few moments in part that I won't read
41:44talks about why the German World War I
41:46propaganda failed and it was in fact
41:48because the Germans lied and when the
41:51Germans that were marching to war saw
41:53that the propaganda had lied to them
41:55they lost their morale
41:58and they lost the ability to believe
41:59their government and want to fight for
42:01it a second basic misconception we're
42:04told that makes people vulnerable to
42:07propaganda is the notion that it serves
42:09only to change opinions this is one of
42:12its aims but a limited subordinate one
42:15much more importantly it aims to
42:18intensify existing Trends to sharpen and
42:21focus them and above all to lead men to
42:24action or when it is directed that
42:27immovable opponents to non-action
42:29through Terror or discouragement to
42:32prevent them from
42:34interfering so this is extremely
42:37important right much more importantly
42:41than trying to change opinions the point
42:44of propaganda is often to agitate and to
42:48intensify existing Trends think about
42:52that if you're going along with the
42:55current and suddenly the current starts
42:58to accelerate that might be due to
43:01propaganda we call this accelerationism
43:03in fact one of the ways that you can
43:06achieve a lot politically that's very
43:08relevant to what's happening right now
43:10with our new Administration that we're
43:12so excited about all the winning is that
43:14you can accelerate and accelerate and
43:16accelerate and go so fast that you end
43:18up so far down the road that you don't
43:19know how you got there and you don't
43:20know how to get back later and all the
43:24momentum carried you somewhere you
43:26didn't want to go
43:28much more
43:30importantly we're told propaganda aims
43:34to intensify existing trends that get
43:36you to try to
43:38overreact to over
43:42enthuse and it can drive you toward
43:45action or even inaction depending on
43:48what its goal is therefore ilol
43:51distinguishes reading again various
43:53forms of propaganda and calls his book
43:56propag Andis that plural is one of the
44:00keys to his concept so it's
44:02propagandas plural propagandas plural
44:06the most trenchant distinction made by
44:08ilol is between agitation
44:10propaganda and integration propaganda
44:14and that's your agit prop piece that I'm
44:16going to end up talking about at the
44:18end the former agitation propaganda the
44:22agitation part of agit prop the former
44:26leads men from Mere resentment into
44:29Rebellion the latter integration
44:32propaganda aims at making them adjust
44:34themselves to desired patterns and I
44:36would tell you that that's probably the
44:38primary difference between the agit and
44:41the prop in agit prop agitation tries to
44:45lead people into action from Mere
44:47resentment into Rebellion into overdoing
44:49it with their
44:50enthusiasm whereas or Terror into being
44:54frozen the latter aims at making them so
44:57propaganda instead of agitation leads
44:59them into making themselves adjust to
45:01desired patterns the two types rely on
45:05entirely different means both exist all
45:07over the world integration propaganda is
45:10needed especially for the technological
45:13Society to flourish and its
45:15technological means mass media among
45:17them in turn make such integration
45:20propaganda
45:22possible so that's obviously a tool that
45:24I think can be used for good or evil but
45:26at agitation propaganda seems distinct
45:30and in fact I'm not going to elaborate
45:31on this now but I think that the
45:33agitation propaganda is the one that's
45:34much more important for us to be paying
45:36attention to the one that we need to
45:38learn how to um step back from so that
45:42we do not fall into the traps generated
45:44by agitation and that's really the point
45:46of the podcast today uh a related Point
45:49Central in lol's thesis is that modern
45:52propaganda cannot work without education
45:55he thus reverses the widespread notion
45:57that education is the best prophylactic
46:00against propaganda on the contrary he
46:02says education or what usually goes by
46:05that word in the modern world is the
46:07absolute prerequisite for
46:10propaganda in fact education is largely
46:13identical with what ilil calls pre-
46:15propaganda the conditioning of Minds
46:18with vast amounts of incoherent
46:20information already dispensed for
46:23ulterior purposes imposing as facts and
46:26as education
46:28I think a parallel would be somebody who
46:30is very familiar with a lot of Bible
46:32verses a Christian for example who's
46:34very familiar with a lot of Bible verses
46:36but he not familiar with the context of
46:39those with the uh the the full story of
46:44what what the Bible's accomplishing and
46:45how each piece fits within it so that
46:48then you can have some
46:50disingenuous um wolf and sheep's
46:53clothing give you Bible verses out of
46:55context even with a great deal of
46:58context present but the wrong context
47:00and get you to be led into a false
47:02belief so you might be very educated so
47:05to speak on the Bible but in a very poor
47:08way where you don't have a full
47:09understanding of what the Bible is
47:11trying to communicate and what the
47:13historical purposes and and
47:15circumstances were and thus you can
47:17easily mislead people through verses uh
47:21that are again you can tell them true
47:23things Jesus said X and get them to make
47:28the wrong kind of conclusions based on
47:30that uh because they have been
47:32preconditioned to be propagandized by a
47:35misleading
47:36interpretation of the scripture uh ilil
47:40going back to the text ilil follows
47:42through by designating
47:44intellectuals as virtually the most
47:46vulnerable to all modern propaganda you
47:49hear that guys for three reasons one
47:53they absorb the largest amount of
47:54secondhand unverifiable information
47:57so let me talk about the word
47:59intellectuals for a second and the
48:01Communists had a very expansive
48:02definition of intellectuals particularly
48:04the Chinese Communists uh in in the
48:08PRC the definition of intellectual was
48:11basically anybody who's doing work
48:14that's not manual work anything that
48:16involves reading more or less it was
48:18extremely expansive right so what I want
48:20to make the point is is that if you're
48:22on social media you're an intellectual
48:25by this definition so so they absorb the
48:28largest amount of secondhand
48:29unverifiable information okay so that's
48:31everything you see when you scroll on
48:34social media okay that's everything you
48:36see they absorb the largest amount of
48:38secondhand unverifiable information two
48:41they feel a compelling need to have an
48:43opinion on every important question of
48:45our time how does that sit with your
48:48experience on social media remember this
48:51is Jacko LOL saying who is the most
48:53susceptible to
48:54propaganda one they absorb the largest
48:58amount of secondhand unverifiable
49:00information two they feel a compelling
49:02need to have an opinion on every
49:03important question of our time and thus
49:05easily succumb to opinions offered to
49:08them by Propaganda on all such
49:11indigestible pieces of information and
49:14three they consider themselves capable
49:16of judging for
49:19themselves just let that soak in for a
49:24minute I know it's that was like getting
49:26hit in the face let that soak in for a
49:30minute and now you can go ahead and
49:32project it onto all the other people
49:33that you're thinking about on social
49:34media who you don't like who you know
49:36are guilty of this and then you can go
49:38back to letting it soak in at times as
49:40it creeps into your mind and what what
49:43uh the book says here is they literally
49:46need propaganda in fact the need for
49:50propaganda that's in italics by the way
49:52the need for propaganda on the part of
49:54the prop propagande is one of the most
49:57powerful elements of ul's thesis cast
50:00out of the disintegrating micro groups
50:02of the past such as family church or
50:04Village the individual is plunged into
50:06Mass society and thrown back upon his
50:09own inadequate resources his isolation
50:12his loneliness is
50:13ineffectuality propaganda then hands him
50:16in veritable abundance what he needs a
50:20rasra a reason to be personal
50:23involvement and participation in
50:25important events and out let an excuse
50:27for some of his more doubtful impulses
50:30righteousness all fact all factitious to
50:33be sure all more or less spurious but he
50:36drinks it all in and asks for more
50:39without this intense collaboration by
50:41the propagande the propagandist would be
50:44helpless so now I want to go back to Mr
50:47Nana's thesis about truth denominations
50:50what is a truth denomination in light of
50:52what I just
50:53read a truth denomination is a group of
50:56sheep sheep in the denomination the
50:59propagandise who have been and the words
51:03of the post liberal woke right cast out
51:06of the disintegrating micr groups of the
51:09past such as family church or Village
51:11this atomized have added a word
51:13individual is plunged into Mass society
51:16and thrown back upon his inadequate
51:18resources so this is the environment in
51:20which naana is saying we live and that
51:21we're seeking a truth
51:23denomination and it's to overcome his
51:26isolation is loneliness is
51:28ineffectuality propaganda then hands him
51:31in veritable abundance what is what he
51:33needs a reason for living personal
51:34involvement and participation in
51:36important events an outlet blah blah
51:38blah an excuse for some of his more
51:41doubtful impulses
51:44righteousness so what a truth
51:46denomination is is it's a group of
51:47propagande in a parasitic or toxic
51:51relationship with a propagandist who
51:52wants them to believe a particular set
51:54of what George Soros would call fertile
51:57fallacies they are not truth Seekers any
52:00longer they are tribe Seekers they are
52:04tribe Seekers who are are
52:06seeking to find meaning in a group that
52:11is being led deliberately by a
52:13propagandist who wants them to believe
52:16certain particular things rather than to
52:18discover reality for themselves and if
52:21you start to feel the ideological
52:23balkanization and ideological extremism
52:25of our era
52:27we see that M Na's hypothesis is not
52:30incorrect that this is happening and
52:32that it is a good description for what's
52:33happening but what we see on the other
52:35hand is that it is a very toxic
52:38Arrangement that we should be taking
52:39steps to resist and you hear in the the
52:43description here the toxic symbiotic
52:47relationship between propagandist and
52:49propagande all factitious to be sure all
52:53more or less spurious but he drinks it
52:56all in and asks for more without this
52:59intense collaboration by the
53:02propagande the propagandist would be
53:06helpless thus this is the last paragraph
53:10I'll read of this part thus propaganda
53:12by first creating pseudo needs through
53:18pre-prandial so a truth denomination is
53:22a pernicious object where people are
53:25thrown into some kind of
53:27despair they generate pseudo needs that
53:30are met by a
53:32propagandist giving them pseudo
53:34satisfactions and this is a pernicious
53:36cycle not just pernicious to the people
53:40involved but pernicious to the society
53:42in which it is
53:43occurring so he asks can wholesome
53:46propaganda be made for a wholesome cause
53:48can democracy Christianity humanism be
53:51propagated by modern propaganda
53:53techniques elol traces the similarity
53:56among all propaganda efforts communist
53:59Nazi Democratic he thinks that no one
54:02can use this intrinsically undemocratic
54:05weapon or rather abandon himself to it
54:08unscathed or without undergoing deep
54:10transformations in the process he shows
54:13the inevitable willed propaganda effects
54:16of which the good propagandist is
54:18unaware The Fallout from any major
54:21propaganda activity and all its
54:23pernicious consequences most pernicious
54:26of all the process once fully launched
54:29tends to become irreversible so you
54:32become a product of your propaganda in
54:34the sense of who you are and who you
54:36understand yourself to be and there's
54:38really he's warning no way out so that's
54:42uncomfortable and unsettling and should
54:45I think cause for us to have some
54:47reflection on ourselves that need to
54:50opine on every single topic of the day
54:53right the need to give your take on the
54:56current
54:57thing oof right oof that's like the
55:01currency of the internet what on Earth
55:04are we to do well let's go back to
55:07Hitler let's talk about the propaganda
55:09something like his speeches let's look
55:11at this master Adolf Hitler of evil
55:15doing evil with propaganda including the
55:18agitating type and what I'm going to do
55:20instead of actually doing that
55:22specifically I'm not going to read his
55:24speeches I don't think that is necessary
55:25or why wise those speeches are meant as
55:28a sales pitch to lead you into believing
55:30things and we know historically
55:33regardless of how many denialists are
55:35out there we know historically what lies
55:37on the other side of being seduced by
55:39those magic
55:40spells I'm going to read to you instead
55:43a portion of chapter six of Adolf
55:45Hitler's mind comp that chapter is
55:47titled War propaganda and it's Hitler's
55:50analysis of the propaganda that the
55:52Germans used in World War I clearly to
55:54losing effect and which angered Hitler
55:57so he wanted to learn how to do
55:58propaganda correctly and better so we're
56:01going to read a couple of pages it's a
56:03little risky for me I'm going to come
56:05back to this eventually um a little
56:08risky for me to
56:10read uh Hitler right
56:15because I don't know if this is going to
56:16get taken down I actually want to read
56:19another chapter of this book to you soon
56:22and I guess we're going to take the risk
56:23so stay tuned for that and we'll see
56:25what happens
56:27so here's Hitler chapter 6 of mine comp
56:31in the Ford translation propaganda in
56:33the war was a means that's World War I
56:36propaganda in the war was a means to an
56:38end the end was the German people's
56:41successful struggle for existence so
56:43listen to that he's framing it out
56:46doesn't that sound woke it's our
56:47struggle for existence right the end was
56:49the German people's successful struggle
56:51for existence therefore the propaganda
56:54should only have been considered based
56:56on how it achieved that
56:59goal the
57:02cruestv viory and the only showy
57:06morality to be used was that which
57:08helped assure the Dignity of freedom for
57:11the nation this was the only attitude
57:14possible when facing the question of War
57:16propaganda in such a life and death
57:21struggle if the so-called competent
57:23authorities had understood this the form
57:25and use of propaganda as a weapon would
57:28never have been a matter of confusion
57:30propaganda is merely another weapon a
57:32very frightening one in the hands of an
57:35expert the second question of absolute
57:38Central importance was this where should
57:41propaganda be directed at the educated
57:44intellectuals or at the less educated
57:46masses it must be aimed continuously at
57:49the masses alone for the intellects or
57:52those today who think they are
57:54intellectuals we do not of for
57:56propaganda but scientific teaching now
57:59I'm going to put a caveat here cuz we're
58:01listening to his speeches right doesn't
58:02that sound
58:03good the scientific teaching that they
58:06were offering was largely theosophical
58:08goofy race science about the master
58:10Nordic race so it turns out that that's
58:14not true what he actually said but you
58:18have to know what you're looking at to
58:20understand what you're looking at that's
58:21how propaganda often works for the
58:24Hitler said for for the intellectuals we
58:27offered scientific teaching he didn't
58:29tell you what the content of the science
58:31was he didn't tell you that all the
58:33Jewish science had to be ejected just
58:34like the Communists had to eject all of
58:36the bis Western Sciences right
58:41so that itself is an example of how the
58:44propaganda works here talking about
58:46propaganda so it's actually kind of a
58:48lie
58:50right for the intellects or those who
58:53today who think they are intellectuals
58:54we do not offer propaganda but
58:56scientific teaching they offered
58:58misinformation and Mal information
59:00judging by its substance Hitler tells us
59:03propaganda is no more science than an
59:05advertising poster drawing is Art the
59:09art of the poster is in the designer's
59:12ability to to attract the attention of
59:14the crowd with form and color a poster
59:17advertising an art exhibition has uh
59:20only has to draw attention to the art in
59:22the exhibition the better it succeeds
59:25the greater the art of the poster itself
59:28in addition the poster should show the
59:30masses the importance of the exhibition
59:32but it should never be a substitute for
59:34the art there on display anyone who
59:37wants to involve himself with actual art
59:39must study more than just the poster in
59:42fact for him a simple walk through the
59:44exhibition is not enough only after a
59:47detailed study of the exhibits can he be
59:50expected to give a thoughtful
59:51examination to the individual works and
59:54then slowly form a sound opinion opinion
59:57the situation is the same today with
59:59what we call propaganda propaganda is
1:00:02purpose is not scientific training of
1:00:04the individual not to give details or to
1:00:07act as a course of instruction but
1:00:10directing the Mass's attention to
1:00:12particular facts occurrences and
1:00:14Necessities the importance of these
1:00:16facts can only be brought in their view
1:00:20by the means of
1:00:22propaganda so let me pause when I said
1:00:25that Ed bernes and Jac alol in agreement
1:00:27but Edward bernes in particular said
1:00:29that public relations propaganda and
1:00:31advertising are roughly the same thing
1:00:33here you have the exact same sentiment
1:00:35from Hitler the point of propaganda is
1:00:37not to be an intellectual discourse
1:00:39that's what he's saying it's not to make
1:00:42an argument that's not the point of
1:00:44propaganda the point of propaganda is to
1:00:46point people to certain facts
1:00:49occurrences and Necessities in the same
1:00:52way that an advertisement say for an art
1:00:54gallery is to point them to want to go
1:00:57to the art gallery and go in and study
1:00:59the art and the poster the advertising
1:01:03poster is judged on its quality not by
1:01:07its artistic quality but by whether or
1:01:09not it gets people to go into the
1:01:11gallery in the same way propaganda is
1:01:14going to be judged not by its
1:01:16intellectual or factual content but by
1:01:18its ability to draw the Mass's attention
1:01:21to particular facts occurrences and
1:01:24necessities and he says the importance
1:01:26of these facts can only be brought in
1:01:28their view meaning the view of the
1:01:29masses whom he thinks are stupid as we
1:01:32will hear by the means of propaganda so
1:01:35propaganda is a means of alerting the
1:01:37masses the people who are low
1:01:39information low engagement
1:01:42particularly to
1:01:44misunderstand or maybe understand a
1:01:47particular circumstance he says the art
1:01:49of propaganda consists of putting a
1:01:52matter so clearly and forcibly before
1:01:54the minds of the people that creates a
1:01:56strong conviction in everyone it is
1:02:00essential to success the propaganda
1:02:03reinforces the reality of the facts that
1:02:05are promoted the necessity of what is
1:02:07being promoted and the just or rightness
1:02:10of its character so there's a moral
1:02:12veilance to the
1:02:14propaganda the just or rightness a
1:02:16necessity why it's it's got to feel
1:02:19important to people and that it must
1:02:21reforce this is this is important
1:02:23reinforce the reality of the facts that
1:02:25are promot Ed right so the reality of
1:02:27the facts so you say well so I thought
1:02:29propaganda was about lying but that's
1:02:31exactly what uh jaal's um forward here
1:02:36warns us about
1:02:39right it is not about modern propaganda
1:02:43has long disdained the ridiculous lies
1:02:45of the past and outmoded forms of the
1:02:46pro of propaganda it operates instead
1:02:49with many different kinds of Truth half
1:02:51truth limited truth and truth out of
1:02:53context even garbles always in assisted
1:02:56that the verock communic be as accurate
1:02:59as possible so indeed you're going to
1:03:03tell the truth falsely with propaganda
1:03:06the goal is to inspire a certain belief
1:03:09in in a in a moral and and uh practical
1:03:15necessity to act upon that which you
1:03:19see based on which facts are given to
1:03:21you and of course which are
1:03:24withheld the the point is not an
1:03:26academic Treatise he's made that very
1:03:28clear Hitler goes on he says this art is
1:03:31not an end in itself its purpose must be
1:03:34identical to the advertisement poster so
1:03:36again that point to attract the
1:03:38attention of the masses and not to
1:03:40distribute instructions to those who
1:03:42already have an educated opinion on
1:03:44things or who prefer to form their
1:03:46opinions based on objective study that
1:03:49is not the purpose of propaganda so
1:03:52propaganda is not for people who want to
1:03:55base their opinions on objective study
1:03:57that is not the purpose of propaganda
1:04:00that's the exact quote from Adolf Hitler
1:04:02it must appeal to the feelings of the
1:04:05public rather than to their reasoning
1:04:07ability so I know all of my moms out
1:04:11there that have dealt with education
1:04:12stuff are now reeling at the fact that
1:04:16so much of the educational material in
1:04:18the United States and Beyond Today the
1:04:20woke stuff is all centered in how the
1:04:23kids feel feel feel feel feel feel
1:04:28right propaganda is not for people who
1:04:32prefer to form their opinions based on
1:04:34objective study that is not the purpose
1:04:36of propaganda it must appeal to the
1:04:38feelings of the public rather than to
1:04:40their reasoning ability he goes on all
1:04:43propaganda must appeal to the common
1:04:45people in tone and in form and must keep
1:04:48its intellectual level to the capacity
1:04:51of the least intelligent person at whom
1:04:54it is directed
1:04:56in other words the intellectual level
1:04:59must be lowered as the mass of people is
1:05:03must be lowered as the mass of people it
1:05:05is intended to reach
1:05:07grows if it is necessary to reach a lot
1:05:10of people as in the case of national
1:05:12propaganda for the continuation of a war
1:05:15you can never be too careful about
1:05:17controlling the intellectual level of
1:05:19the
1:05:19propaganda the less science is involved
1:05:22and the more emotions are involved the
1:05:24more complete the success will be
1:05:28success is the best proof of the
1:05:30effectiveness of propaganda and not the
1:05:33fact that it satisfies a few Scholars or
1:05:35image cons conscious sickly Apes who are
1:05:39concerned with mere sorry concerned more
1:05:42with appearances and
1:05:46feelings understanding the emotional
1:05:48patterns of the great masses and using
1:05:50proper psychology to get their attention
1:05:52and touch their hearts is the true art
1:05:54of propaganda the fact that those who
1:05:57supposedly have their intellect and wits
1:05:59enhanced by education fail to understand
1:06:01this proves their mental laziness or
1:06:04their
1:06:06conceit once we understand the
1:06:08importance of targeting the art of
1:06:10propaganda advertising to the broad
1:06:12masses notice that propaganda
1:06:14advertising it's just one concept we
1:06:17have the following consequence it is a
1:06:19mistake to try to create propaganda in
1:06:21the same way you would create a document
1:06:23for scientific instruction the Great
1:06:25Mass's capacity to absorb information is
1:06:27very limited they have very little
1:06:30understanding and they are very
1:06:31forgetful so let's go back to those
1:06:33speeches bro what was in those speeches
1:06:36well that was National propaganda it was
1:06:38targeting very large groups it has to be
1:06:40things that are very simple that elicit
1:06:42their emotions right why because the
1:06:45great Mass's capacity to absorb
1:06:47information is very limited they have
1:06:49little understanding and they are very
1:06:52forgetful for these reasons any
1:06:54effective propaganda must be confined to
1:06:57a very few points and these must be
1:06:59expressed in simple stereotyped formulas
1:07:03they must be used repeatedly until the
1:07:05very last man cannot help but know the
1:07:08meaning instantly the moment we forget
1:07:11this principle and try to vary the
1:07:13approach try to be general or abstract
1:07:15we minimize the effect the crowd cannot
1:07:18understand what is being offered
1:07:20therefore the greater the scope of the
1:07:22message the more necessary it is for the
1:07:24propaganda to to follow a simple plan of
1:07:27action which is also the most effective
1:07:29and targeted
1:07:31psychologically he then goes on to talk
1:07:33about why the war propaganda in Germany
1:07:36failed uh and World War I but uh why the
1:07:41British and American war propaganda in
1:07:43World War I succeeded and basically it
1:07:45was that the Germans tried to make the
1:07:48um Americans and British look stupid or
1:07:50the Allies in general look stupid and
1:07:52the British and the Americans made the
1:07:54Germans and the axis look ruthless and
1:07:58brutal and evil so when the soldiers
1:08:00went on the battlefield they discovered
1:08:03the truth of what the soldiers were like
1:08:05and the hit the the America the Allies
1:08:07went
1:08:08seeing the Allies went into the war
1:08:11seeing that uh the propaganda they were
1:08:15told was was true the Germans were
1:08:17brutal they were murderers they were
1:08:18killing people they were like people in
1:08:20war whereas the Germans went and saw
1:08:23wait these people aren't stupid at all
1:08:26and so they started to doubt their own
1:08:28side according to
1:08:29Hitler so that's that's that section I'm
1:08:33going to read kind of a little bit of a
1:08:35selection from the next part of the
1:08:38chapter and I'm not going to finish the
1:08:39chapter which as you can tell already
1:08:41this is actually really focused Hitler
1:08:43tends to ramble and and go off on weird
1:08:45tangents a lot and so the rest of the
1:08:47chapter is basically him just ketching
1:08:51about how the Americans did it way
1:08:53better and the Germans were a bunch of
1:08:54idiots and that of course he would do it
1:08:57better so here's how he carries on after
1:09:00a little bit of that which then
1:09:02dominates the chapter afterwards he says
1:09:04what the people never understood was the
1:09:06first requirement for any propaganda
1:09:08activity an intentionally biased and
1:09:11one-sided attitude toward every question
1:09:15discussed the failure in this area from
1:09:18the very beginning of the war again
1:09:20we're talking about why the German
1:09:21propaganda failed World War I the
1:09:23failure in this area from the very
1:09:24beginning of the war and from the top
1:09:26down was so bad it made me question
1:09:29whether this much failure could all be
1:09:31credited to Pure stupidity for instance
1:09:35what would people say about a poster
1:09:36which advertised a new brand of soap but
1:09:40which at length described the good
1:09:41qualities of other soap Brands the
1:09:43viewer would simply shake their heads in
1:09:46disbelief the same is true of political
1:09:48advertising it is the responsibility of
1:09:51propaganda to emphasize exclusively the
1:09:54one cause it represents and not to
1:09:56elevate other causes sorry evaluate
1:09:58other causes it must not objectively
1:10:02explore any truth that favors the other
1:10:04side or fairly weighs the options and
1:10:07then present the masses with a strict
1:10:09Doctrine it must not argue matters based
1:10:12on theoretical rules of justice so we'll
1:10:15pause
1:10:17here so he's saying that propaganda is a
1:10:19communicative Dark Art because it must
1:10:22be ruthless it must not be argued
1:10:25through through just and fair
1:10:26application instead it must
1:10:28intentionally be biased and one-sided
1:10:30toward every question discussed it must
1:10:33not show any possibility for justice for
1:10:38the enemy he actually makes that
1:10:39explicitly clear in fact he says it
1:10:42explicitly that anytime that and I don't
1:10:44think I have this part oh I do have this
1:10:46part um it confuses people once you show
1:10:48them Justice for the enemy so I want to
1:10:50draw your attention to the propaganda
1:10:52that you're facing today and it could be
1:10:54a lot of things but when I look at these
1:10:56accounts that are pushing the
1:10:57anti-israel line many of whom are on the
1:11:00woke left many of whom are on the woke
1:11:02right or its adjacencies including
1:11:06Libertarians that I don't think are
1:11:07quite woke right but they anti-israel
1:11:10pretty
1:11:11staunchly this is what you see you do
1:11:13not see them offering any Nuance or
1:11:16discussion of any justification for why
1:11:18it might be the case that Israel has a
1:11:22stake in what's going on they have a
1:11:24claim to Justice and what they're doing
1:11:27even if they believe it they're never
1:11:28saying it why because what they're
1:11:30presenting is not information what
1:11:32they're presenting is
1:11:33propaganda it doesn't matter even if
1:11:36they're right you need to understand and
1:11:38I don't think they are by the way but
1:11:39you need to understand that what they're
1:11:40presenting is propaganda how do you know
1:11:42it's propaganda the first requirement
1:11:45from Adolf Hitler the first requirement
1:11:47for any propaganda activity is an
1:11:49intentionally biased and one-sided
1:11:51attitude toward every question discussed
1:11:56right it is the responsibility of
1:11:58propaganda to emphasize exclusively the
1:12:01one cause it represents and not to eval
1:12:04uh evaluate other
1:12:07causes or continuing Beyond where we
1:12:09went it must not argue matters based on
1:12:12theoretical rules of Justice propaganda
1:12:15must constantly Endeavor to present only
1:12:18the aspect of the truth not the truth
1:12:21only the aspect of the truth that is
1:12:23favorable to its own side it was a
1:12:26fundamental error to discuss who is
1:12:29responsible for starting the first world
1:12:30war and then declare that Germany was
1:12:32not totally responsible the right way
1:12:35would have been to pile the guilt
1:12:37totally on the enemy even if this wasn't
1:12:40true but in this case it was now hold on
1:12:44let me just reread that and let's just
1:12:47swap out a couple of Concepts right so
1:12:51propaganda must not argue matters on
1:12:54theoretical rules of Justice propaganda
1:12:56must constantly Endeavor to present only
1:12:58the aspect of the truth that is
1:12:59favorable to its own side it was a
1:13:02fundamental error to discuss who is
1:13:04responsible for October 7th and then
1:13:07declare that Israel was not totally
1:13:11responsible in the the right way would
1:13:14have been to pile the guilt totally on
1:13:17Israel even if this wasn't
1:13:22true that's how propaganda works you
1:13:25don't have to say a single false thing
1:13:27to do that and he made that
1:13:30clear propaganda must constantly
1:13:33Endeavor to present only the aspect of
1:13:36the truth that is favorable to its own
1:13:38side that is a complete difference from
1:13:42trying to present objective information
1:13:44which of course Hitler just said we just
1:13:46read is something they are not
1:13:48interested in doing that is not the
1:13:50purpose of propaganda not at all and he
1:13:53says what was the result of this half
1:13:55and half propaganda the great masses of
1:13:58people are not made up of diplomats
1:14:00professors of law or even people capable
1:14:02of making a judgment based on reason and
1:14:05logic they are human beings indecisive
1:14:09and subject to doubt and uncertainty so
1:14:11he's got a low view of his audience the
1:14:13moment our own propaganda admits even
1:14:16the faintest glimmer of justice is due
1:14:19to the other side the seeds of doubt
1:14:20have been planted and they will begin to
1:14:22question whether our own side is just
1:14:25the masses cannot tell where the enemy's
1:14:27wrongs end in their own begin in these
1:14:30cases they become uncertain and
1:14:32suspicious this is especially true when
1:14:35the enemy does not commit the same
1:14:37foolishness but puts the guilt Lock
1:14:39Stock and Barrel on his adversary again
1:14:42I want you to think about the
1:14:44anti-israel propaganda in light of what
1:14:46you just heard so what would you do for
1:14:48somebody say who's on social media you
1:14:50say ah well you know account X is
1:14:52pushing an awful lot I don't Candace ens
1:14:55or something is pushing an awful lot of
1:14:57anti-israel propaganda well they could
1:14:59just go listen to somebody else they
1:15:01could go listen to James Lindsay or
1:15:02somebody else who's saying something
1:15:03different right so it's not like they're
1:15:06just getting a one-sided view well
1:15:07that's where you add in The Next Step
1:15:09which is what the maoists did as well
1:15:12that's where you make sure that the
1:15:14people that you have listening to to you
1:15:17if you're the propagandist in your truth
1:15:19denomination believe people in the other
1:15:21denomination are evil are Liars are
1:15:24trying to mislead you right that's why
1:15:26you constantly in this this realm of
1:15:29propaganda see the disinformation
1:15:31accounts showing up saying things like
1:15:36why don't you ever say one word about
1:15:38the other thing or you hear them say so
1:15:40and so is lying to you why are they
1:15:43lying to you this is why you see this
1:15:45constant drum beat taking place this way
1:15:48Hitler's um conclusion to that this
1:15:51sorry product which is where you
1:15:54actually admit that things might have
1:15:55nuances to them this sorry product was
1:15:58not just useless but harmful all the
1:16:01brilliant presentations in the world
1:16:03will not lead to the success of
1:16:04propaganda unless one fundamental
1:16:06principle is always kept clearly in view
1:16:09propaganda must limit itself to saying a
1:16:11very little but saying it a lot first
1:16:14and foremost that is the absolute
1:16:17important prerequisite for success and
1:16:18what was that very little it is that
1:16:20aspect of the truth which is favorable
1:16:22to your aims so you're not presenting
1:16:24pres inting the whole truth you're
1:16:26presenting some truth falsely in order
1:16:30to create a particular agenda driven
1:16:33opinion skipping a little bit Hitler
1:16:35says the purpose of propaganda is not to
1:16:38be a constant source of interesting
1:16:41diversion for unconcerned smart
1:16:43gentlemen but to convince the masses the
1:16:46masses are slow moving and it may take a
1:16:48long time before they are ready to even
1:16:50notice something the constant
1:16:53repetitions of the simplest ideas will
1:16:55finally stick in their minds sorry only
1:16:58constant repetition of the simplest
1:17:01ideas will finally stick in their minds
1:17:03any variation in the propaganda message
1:17:06must never change the purpose of
1:17:08propaganda but should always reinforce
1:17:11the same conclusion the main slogan must
1:17:14be highlighted from various angles
1:17:16stated in different ways but every
1:17:19discussion must end with the conclusion
1:17:21itself only then can and will propaganda
1:17:25produce a unified and concentrated
1:17:27effect only this broad approach through
1:17:31steady and constant use will ever pave
1:17:33the way to final success and this
1:17:36steadfast course must never be abandoned
1:17:39it is astonishing to discover the
1:17:41enormous results which such perseverance
1:17:44can accomplish and so we will now go
1:17:47from Hitler I'm going to read one more
1:17:50paragraph from him in a minute but we'll
1:17:51go from Hitler and I'll come back to
1:17:53elol for a moment
1:17:55so LOL nuances and updates Hitler's
1:17:57message a little bit right particularly
1:17:59the parts uh about the intellectuals um
1:18:03and to know fascism holds no love for
1:18:05intellectuals famously uh very low
1:18:08regard for them tends to kill them uh
1:18:11but there's a lot here that bears on
1:18:13what we're dealing with in our time in
1:18:15our propaganda space the constant drum
1:18:17beats from woke left from wok right if
1:18:19we'll admit the term about the Badness
1:18:21of America the Badness of Israel the
1:18:23inevitability of social transformation
1:18:25the need for civil war inevitability of
1:18:27Civil War the need to sort the country
1:18:30into red and blue to have a big sort so
1:18:32to speak to have a national divorce the
1:18:35constant racial agit prop the constant
1:18:37sexual agit prop the constant religious
1:18:39agit prop about what it means to be a
1:18:41true conservative a true Christian to be
1:18:44politically black it doesn't matter
1:18:46which subject we pick on which side of
1:18:47it is it's all consistent with the rules
1:18:50of propaganda that we just read from one
1:18:52of the most evil men in history and so
1:18:55from El's preface this is actually
1:18:57reading elol himself not his uh uh the
1:19:01guy writing his
1:19:02introduction but it's very early in the
1:19:04book he says whatever the diversity of
1:19:06countries and methods they have one
1:19:09characteristic in common concern with
1:19:11Effectiveness does that not sound like
1:19:13what we just heard propaganda he says is
1:19:15made first of all because of a will to
1:19:17action for the purpose of effectively
1:19:19arming policy and giving irresistible
1:19:22power to its decisions whoever handles
1:19:25this instrument or as Hitler called it
1:19:27weapon can be concerned solely with
1:19:31Effectiveness this is the supreme law
1:19:34which must never be forgotten when the
1:19:36phenomenon of propaganda is analyzed
1:19:38ineffective propaganda is no propaganda
1:19:42so it reminds me of a quote from George
1:19:43Soros I wasn't going to read but I'm
1:19:45going to pull it up
1:19:48um Soros where he's talking about
1:19:51alchemy and a scientific method if I can
1:19:53get it really quickly
1:19:57um scientific method seeks to understand
1:20:00things as they are while Alchemy seeks
1:20:02to bring about a desired State of
1:20:04Affairs to put it another way the
1:20:06primary objective of science is truth
1:20:08and that of alchemy operational success
1:20:12so that jives exactly with what both
1:20:15Hitler and um and jaal writing about
1:20:20propaganda said about propaganda right
1:20:22that it's all about its its effect
1:20:25that's the only thing you care about
1:20:26it's only operational success it's not
1:20:27about truth it's not about objective
1:20:30fact it's not about understanding it's
1:20:32about presenting an aspect of the truth
1:20:34that creates a particular outcome in the
1:20:37world so George soros's reflective
1:20:40reflexive methodologies are a tactic of
1:20:44propagandizing they create propaganda
1:20:47truth regimes or propaganda truth
1:20:51denominations uh where which creates a
1:20:53symbiotic and um codependent really a a
1:20:57sickly codependent relationship between
1:21:00the propagande the person being people
1:21:02being propagandized who are desperate
1:21:04for some guidance as as Soros describes
1:21:08it in his book about reflexivity which
1:21:10is the uh Alchemy of Finance which is
1:21:12also where that quote comes from that I
1:21:14just read um you have the propagande
1:21:17who's now desperate for guidance in a
1:21:19chaotic world he can't quite understand
1:21:21the propagandist has misled him about
1:21:23the world he's in and roused his
1:21:25emotions and then the propagandist
1:21:27satisfies the need for guidance by
1:21:30providing him misleading information
1:21:33that serves the agenda of the
1:21:35propagandist and that toxic symbiotic
1:21:38relationship between propagandist and
1:21:39propagande is what ilol is trying to
1:21:42elucidate in his unbelievably brilliant
1:21:45book about propaganda which is called
1:21:47propaganda and like I said Hitler
1:21:49understood this too as you can see so we
1:21:52can ask the question well where did
1:21:54Hitler get all these ideas about
1:21:55propaganda was he just this Evil Genius
1:21:57that figured it all out well he
1:21:59certainly observed and certainly uh had
1:22:03some ideas that way but he's not that
1:22:04brilliant as he points out several
1:22:07places in mine comp he didn't just come
1:22:10up with this crap on his own he got it
1:22:12from studying the enemy and not the
1:22:14enemy like the Allies in fact he got it
1:22:17from studying the marxists so at the the
1:22:22I read to you from you know the first
1:22:24first half or so of the body of the
1:22:27chapter of chapter 6 mine conf here's
1:22:31how chapter 6 of my comp
1:22:33starts pursuing all political events
1:22:36with interests like I did made me very
1:22:39interested in propaganda in it I saw a
1:22:42tool that the Socialist Marxist
1:22:44organization understood well and used
1:22:46with masterful skill I realized early
1:22:48that the proper use of propaganda is a
1:22:51true art and one that remains
1:22:53practically unknown to the privilege
1:22:55class parties so he learned it by
1:22:58studying the
1:23:00marxists but I want to point out real
1:23:02quick kind of a diversion how he talks
1:23:04about that the privilege class parties
1:23:07are generally ignorant to
1:23:08propaganda that's also what ilol was
1:23:12saying that those are the people who are
1:23:13most susceptible to propaganda and this
1:23:16I think in particular you remember the
1:23:18people I called the very smart people we
1:23:20might call the liberal intelligencia I
1:23:22like to call them the atlanteans because
1:23:24partly because they write for the
1:23:26Atlantic but partly also because it's I
1:23:28think they're from
1:23:29Atlantis um and they see themselves as
1:23:31this
1:23:32elevated group of people who live in a
1:23:34perfect society that doesn't actually
1:23:36exist uh but the the general weakness of
1:23:39this liberal intelligence he the very
1:23:41smart people and it's one that gets
1:23:43ascribed unfairly to liberalism itself
1:23:46is that um they're just generally too
1:23:48dumb to realize that sometimes people
1:23:50are dishonest or that you know these low
1:23:54base means like propaganda that aimed at
1:23:57somebody dumber than them to convince
1:23:59them of
1:24:00things and that do so in ways that are
1:24:03more effective than writing paragraphs
1:24:05of texts and stupid think pieces that
1:24:08nobody except their other fart sniffing
1:24:11friends read like these people are
1:24:14completely out of touch uh and are too
1:24:16dumb to realize that there are other
1:24:18tools like these Bas means like
1:24:20propaganda are much more effective than
1:24:22their thoroughly stupid think pieces in
1:24:24their careful academic articles um these
1:24:27people are fools right who always
1:24:29assuming good uh always assume good
1:24:31faith out of intellectual activity
1:24:33because they esteem themselves to be
1:24:35working and arguing in good faith even
1:24:36if they're not right but propaganda is
1:24:39designed not to do that it's designed to
1:24:41in bad faith to deliberately tell part
1:24:44of the truth in order to achieve a
1:24:47rousing end a sense of necessity a moral
1:24:51justification from the biased fact that
1:24:54it presents so these very smart people
1:24:57the the LI liberal priv privileged class
1:25:01parties can't stumbling around words
1:25:03these privilege Class party people that
1:25:06um Hitler's excoriating here are like
1:25:09citizens of Atlantis they're writers for
1:25:11the Atlantic or whatever um they haven't
1:25:13figured out they're atlanteans right
1:25:15they haven't figured out for all their
1:25:16technological advancement that they're
1:25:18still on the bottom of the ocean and
1:25:20totally lost to the world and in a
1:25:22society that probably doesn't exist
1:25:25but when this kind of very smart
1:25:27commentariat or the atlantans or
1:25:28whatever becomes the primary thinking
1:25:31organ of a liberal Society I think that
1:25:33Society is in immediate danger it's in
1:25:35tremendous danger when we're Outsourcing
1:25:37all of our
1:25:38intellectual uh popular intellectual
1:25:40work to these disconnected snobs that
1:25:44don't understand propaganda were in a
1:25:46lot of danger and I think that that's
1:25:47where we were in the in the probably
1:25:50from the '90s to the
1:25:51mid-20s and I think it's part of why the
1:25:55um left neo-marxists were so successful
1:25:58at penetrating our society that the
1:26:01Watchers on the wall were actually a
1:26:02class of people who could not understand
1:26:04the drum beat of
1:26:06propaganda from the woke
1:26:09left or that participated in it I think
1:26:11of the story of a urban ethnographer
1:26:14that I knew PhD on Urban
1:26:16ethnography and so we were talking to
1:26:18this lady and we were like well what
1:26:19what do you do and she told us what she
1:26:21did and she goes into the city Inner
1:26:23City she sits down and talks with people
1:26:26who live there most of whom are black
1:26:28although racial minorities of other
1:26:29types and occasionally white people and
1:26:32she writes down their stories and
1:26:33interprets them through various
1:26:35sociological and woke theories in order
1:26:37to explain what is going on it's like so
1:26:40you're telling the stories of black
1:26:42people so this is what Herbert maruzza
1:26:44was talking about back in the day this
1:26:45is a lot of how the woke stuff happened
1:26:47was that you have this like neurotic as
1:26:50this woman turned out to be this
1:26:51neurotic white woman who went in and
1:26:53talked black people in small numbers in
1:26:55cities and decided to pass their stories
1:26:58through the lens of her Marxist academic
1:27:02Theory and then vomit out a report on
1:27:05what it really was right so what I'm
1:27:07saying is that the liberal intelligencia
1:27:10that then filters that kind of
1:27:11information to the public is going to
1:27:14think oh well that's probably a
1:27:16legitimate Enterprise and we have to
1:27:17take its conclusion seriously my God the
1:27:19girl has a PHD and what I'm saying is
1:27:22that they are not prepared for that
1:27:25level of propaganda right so this that's
1:27:29propaganda that's actually targeting the
1:27:30intelligencia but it's also propaganda
1:27:33and that it's transforming the message
1:27:35of what's going on in the city to fit a
1:27:37particular
1:27:38ideological uh perspective and so the
1:27:41the these people are this kind of a a
1:27:44propagator of that propaganda um but at
1:27:48any rate I don't want to digress on
1:27:50these people I get pissed
1:27:52off so Hitler says that he learns his
1:27:56skills in propaganda and how propaganda
1:27:58should work by studying the marxists as
1:28:00he said about a lot of things and that
1:28:02is the social Democrats probably in
1:28:04Germany which is to say ultimately the
1:28:07German branch of the same party that
1:28:10Lenin went on to call the Bolsheviks I
1:28:12think they became known as Nat balls
1:28:14eventually the national bolshevist uh
1:28:16party Bolshevik party in Germany later
1:28:20um and that's kind of partly a pre-run
1:28:23precursor to to the Nazi party so Lenin
1:28:26calls his party the Social Democratic
1:28:28party that's these marxists until it
1:28:31became the bulvik party and then it
1:28:32became the Communist party and the
1:28:34Bolsheviks were arguably the first true
1:28:36masters of
1:28:38propaganda that's important because
1:28:40that's where Hitler was getting these
1:28:41great ideas about how propaganda works
1:28:43and doesn't that fit though so like
1:28:45let's take a little seriously about his
1:28:47technological Society thesis if alol is
1:28:50right the propaganda is bound up
1:28:51intrinsically with the technological
1:28:53civiliz ation itself wouldn't it be the
1:28:56emerging industrial communist project
1:28:59that would be the one that develops the
1:29:01first dedicated evil program using that
1:29:05side of the technological Society of
1:29:08course it would right so as industrial
1:29:10society is advancing the Bolsheviks
1:29:12become the Vanguard of this and they
1:29:14realize that propaganda is if lol's
1:29:18thesis is right they realize that
1:29:20propaganda is the vehicle of their uh
1:29:23more advanced society and they pushed
1:29:25this propaganda very vigorously and not
1:29:29not notably where where it went is
1:29:32notable I should say not we can't ignore
1:29:35the fact that the Bolsheviks primarily
1:29:37propagandized peasants who were not
1:29:39ready at all for the just being lied to
1:29:42bread and bread and land for everybody
1:29:43bread and land for
1:29:45everybody and they were the first true
1:29:47masters of propaganda if you read many
1:29:49of um Lenin's writings what is to be
1:29:52done from 1902 the state and revolution
1:29:55from 19177 some of the other stuff he's
1:29:58talking constantly about the need to
1:29:59send agitation and propaganda out into
1:30:01the
1:30:03world there was other propaganda before
1:30:05that um it's worth mentioning in the
1:30:07context of some of the other things I
1:30:09brought up there were pamphlet and
1:30:10leaflet campaigns of course we see that
1:30:12virtually every war since the printing
1:30:14press uh we know that British
1:30:16intelligence operations have been
1:30:18running we know that you know the the
1:30:20East India Company British East India
1:30:22Company was definitely running kind of
1:30:23propaganda to be able to pull off what
1:30:25it was doing and and was mixing with
1:30:27advertising probably the most infamous
1:30:29piece of
1:30:31propaganda uh that we should mention is
1:30:36the the Zar um before the bolshevist
1:30:39took over Bolsheviks took over Russia
1:30:42the
1:30:43Zar the zaris regime in the late 1800s
1:30:46published a book called the protocols of
1:30:48the Elders of
1:30:49Zion um which was a piece of deliberate
1:30:52propaganda produced to dis place blame
1:30:55onto the Jews and to create a scapegoat
1:30:57out of the Jews for the schemes that the
1:30:59Zar was trying to pull off and to this
1:31:01day people believe the protocols are a
1:31:03legitimate book no matter how many times
1:31:05it gets dis um disproven that that it's
1:31:08fake that it was a that it was a
1:31:10propaganda piece put together by the
1:31:12Russian Zar in order to use Jews as a
1:31:14scapegoat to get around and do whatever
1:31:16political things he wanted to do but so
1:31:19there were other pieces of propaganda
1:31:21but what I'm trying to say about the
1:31:22bolix is that they were I think the
1:31:25people who really systematized studied
1:31:28and mastered propaganda for the first
1:31:30time now Lenin gives a lot of credit to
1:31:31angles and marks for talking about the
1:31:34need for agitation and propaganda but I
1:31:36don't think it was ever organized into a
1:31:39sophisticated system of political
1:31:41Warfare as an art until the Bolsheviks
1:31:44really developed it and so my claim here
1:31:46is basically that this bounced back and
1:31:48forth the Bolsheviks developed this tool
1:31:51to a high art the Nazis took it to a
1:31:54level that had never been seen before
1:31:56and then the subsequent Communists
1:31:58including the Chinese the maist Chinese
1:32:00took it to levels even beyond that and
1:32:02it's refined ever since and like I said
1:32:05ilol steps in in the late 60s and in
1:32:071970 is I forgot what year exactly his
1:32:10book was published and gives a pretty
1:32:12definitive statement on it taking into
1:32:14effect into account the developments in
1:32:16broadcasting it would be amazing to take
1:32:19a look at what it looks like to talk
1:32:20about propaganda now with the social
1:32:22media environment
1:32:24um but I'm going to go backwards a
1:32:27little bit here Lenin and what is to be
1:32:28done 1902 pushes the idea of agitation
1:32:32and propaganda being disseminated one of
1:32:34the mistakes he says is that it's not
1:32:36that you only target certain people he
1:32:38says no it has to be targeting every
1:32:40single class in society he reiterates
1:32:43that point in the state and revolution
1:32:44in 1917 right as are about to take power
1:32:48um and it's not just propaganda Hitler's
1:32:52talking about propaganda but it's prop
1:32:54agitation and propaganda which is of
1:32:56course what we heard reading from the
1:32:58two different types that LOL is talking
1:33:00about and agit prop this kind of cute
1:33:03combination of agitation and propaganda
1:33:05becomes the key instrument in Bolshevik
1:33:07and th later Soviet and communist
1:33:09success and that's what Hitler learned
1:33:11from and that's uh in addition to
1:33:14studying the British and American
1:33:15propaganda from World War I uh and
1:33:18refined into a you know unbelievably
1:33:22powerful tool to take good people and
1:33:25get them to commit evil without even
1:33:26realizing they were doing it what I want
1:33:29to do now to finish and this is actually
1:33:32a fairly long thing but I want to read
1:33:35to you a description of agitation and
1:33:38propaganda um agit prop uh this is from
1:33:42the December 1978 edition of the
1:33:44Communist newspaper Revolution and they
1:33:47published an essay titled on the role of
1:33:49agitation and propaganda and the rest of
1:33:52what I'm going to talk about today is
1:33:54going to actually be reading this essay
1:33:56in full so we can better understand the
1:33:58features of the AGC prop battle space
1:34:00we're forced to live in today and
1:34:02remember one of my main objectives is to
1:34:03get people comfortable enough
1:34:06recognizing the agitation part of agit
1:34:09prop so that it loses its bite it loses
1:34:12its ability to um stir your emotions to
1:34:16cause you to get pulled in and make bad
1:34:19decisions and and so I'll try to give
1:34:22examples as I go but it starts this way
1:34:24it says Communists often talk about the
1:34:26crucial importance of revolutionary
1:34:28agitation and propaganda and with good
1:34:31reason together agitation and propaganda
1:34:33are a mighty and indispensable weapon in
1:34:36the party's revolutionary Arsenal how
1:34:38else but with Vivid compelling agitation
1:34:41as well as propaganda can the hatred
1:34:44which is provoked by daily life under
1:34:47capitalism be further aroused and
1:34:49sharpened against the Bourgeois now
1:34:52remember that's exactly what jacul said
1:34:55the point is of propaganda right it
1:34:58operates um you know with limited truth
1:35:01and all this but its aim is not to
1:35:05change opinions much more importantly it
1:35:07aims to intensify existing Trends to
1:35:09sharpen and focus them and above all
1:35:12lead men to action that's what a little
1:35:14said about propaganda and that's what we
1:35:16hear here
1:35:18repeated how else but with Vivid
1:35:21compelling agitation as well as
1:35:23propaganda and the hatred which is
1:35:25provoked by daily life under capitalism
1:35:27be further aroused and sharpened against
1:35:29the bisi how else but by agitation and
1:35:32propaganda can the word the Sparks and
1:35:35the lessons of struggles waged by now
1:35:38one now another section of the masses be
1:35:40spread Nationwide how else can class
1:35:44struggle be waged in the crucial Arena
1:35:47of public opinion against the ruling
1:35:49class whose ideas are also the ruling
1:35:53idea in society and who spend millions
1:35:56and millions of dollars yearly to
1:35:57produce a large sorry to produce a
1:36:00deluge of their own agitation and
1:36:01propaganda spreading confusion defeatism
1:36:04and reaction
1:36:06so I just want to indicate to you that
1:36:09this the what we live in is a bunch of
1:36:11people doing that all the time um and I
1:36:15want to point out to you that that is
1:36:17the basically mythology of everything
1:36:20woke woke left woke right same mythology
1:36:24for the woke left we could take critical
1:36:26race theory for example and in critical
1:36:29race Theory there is this broad systemic
1:36:31power Dynamic called white supremacy
1:36:34that develops a systemic racism racism
1:36:37that excludes racial minorities
1:36:39especially blacks from Full partic
1:36:41participation in society that tries to
1:36:43spread confusion defeatism and reaction
1:36:45and d d right okay so is a ruling class
1:36:49and it's putting out its own propaganda
1:36:51to uphold they call it ideology white
1:36:54supremacy in order to uphold its um its
1:36:57cultural hegemony yada yada y we could
1:36:59do it with queer Theory just the same
1:37:01that you know there's this concept of
1:37:03normativity that's con that's tied to
1:37:06normaly and legitimacy and that that's
1:37:08used to make sure that there is a ruling
1:37:11group in society that excludes the
1:37:13queers we could do this with um Marxism
1:37:17classically that the Bourgeois itself
1:37:19that's what we're reading about here the
1:37:20bisi itself the capitalist class is
1:37:23maintaining its own existence uh by
1:37:26excluding the
1:37:27proletariat uh we could do this with the
1:37:30woke right who have put forth their
1:37:32concept of the post-war consensus which
1:37:35is a systemic power Dynamic that's
1:37:38designed to exclude true conservatives
1:37:41and Heritage Americans from their
1:37:44rightful standing in the conversation in
1:37:46society same same same same same right
1:37:51so how else other than propaganda are
1:37:53they supposed to overcome that that's
1:37:55the question that's being asked so you
1:37:56should expect that you would see the
1:37:58woke left engaging in massive propaganda
1:38:00for CRT purposes for queer Theory
1:38:03purposes for Marxist purposes you would
1:38:06expect that the woke right is going to
1:38:08engage in massive propaganda against the
1:38:11pillars that hold up what they call the
1:38:14post-war liberal consensus so that they
1:38:16can collapse it and that they can take
1:38:18power as it comes down right it's the
1:38:21same idea how else can CL struggle be
1:38:24waged in the crucial Arena of public
1:38:26opinion against the ruling class against
1:38:29the White supremacists against the
1:38:31heteronormativity ists against the
1:38:33Bourgeois against the capitalist against
1:38:37the Israelis against the postwar liberal
1:38:41consensus and the neocons that run it
1:38:44same same
1:38:46same is there any way other than
1:38:49communist agitation and propaganda they
1:38:52right to arm the m masses themselves
1:38:54with the science of Revolution and the
1:38:56party's line like believing in the
1:38:58postwar consensus so that they can take
1:39:01it up and wage conscious struggle for
1:39:05Revolution and in what other way can the
1:39:08influence of the party its views its
1:39:10presence be spread so openly broadly and
1:39:13consistently among the masses as by
1:39:15agitation and propaganda in all its
1:39:18forms spoken and written but
1:39:20particularly in newspapers as stal put
1:39:23it quote a whole generation of the
1:39:26Revolutionary proletariat was reared by
1:39:28Pravda a mass communist paper or looking
1:39:32at this country in recent years this is
1:39:351978 again can we forget the influence
1:39:38of the tens of thousands of copies of
1:39:40the Black Panther paper sold each week
1:39:43in each of many major cities at a time
1:39:46when the panther stood for violent
1:39:48revolution in the minds of
1:39:50millions okay so um
1:39:53this was written in 1978 I'm going to
1:39:55say that the newspaper is not the main
1:39:57way I'm going to say that a phenomenon
1:39:59called micro blogging and
1:40:02micro uh vlogging in other words social
1:40:06media posts and Tik Tok videos is the
1:40:09primary Way by by which this is done now
1:40:12so if you don't know when Twitter was
1:40:15first
1:40:16created some almost two decades ago what
1:40:19it pitched itself to be was a micro blog
1:40:22so your posts on Twitter are blog posts
1:40:26Believe It or Not each one is a blog
1:40:29post and I think that this is the
1:40:30primary mechanism by which we have
1:40:32written material disseminated right now
1:40:35uh in the propaganda sphere although
1:40:37they people do write articles still and
1:40:40sometimes books and then in the uh video
1:40:45and audio podcast space Tik Tock and Tik
1:40:49Tock style shorts are by far the biggest
1:40:52form of
1:40:53video uh material produced and
1:40:56particularly propaganda material
1:40:57produced just to kind of update that so
1:40:59newspapers of course are small and cheap
1:41:02and these Outlets are also small and
1:41:05cheap he says in fact it is impossible
1:41:08to conceive of the party itself and the
1:41:10Revolutionary stamp it aims to put on
1:41:12all its work without the glue of
1:41:15agitation and propaganda unifying and
1:41:17giving all around revolutionary
1:41:19character to all its work with all this
1:41:22in mind it is possible to see why Lenin
1:41:24described quote systematic allround
1:41:26propaganda and agitation consistent in
1:41:28principle end quot as the quote Chief
1:41:31and permanent task of Communists and
1:41:34that comes from where to
1:41:37begin
1:41:41uh and with this in mind today we must
1:41:44gently step up and sharpen our Revol
1:41:46revolutionary agitation and propaganda
1:41:48we must give special emphasis to
1:41:50agitation which overall plays a more
1:41:53Central role in our ongoing work and
1:41:55this is my thesis as well that we're
1:41:57constantly exposed to agitation more
1:42:00than propaganda agitation from uh agents
1:42:04provocator and Bad actors and people who
1:42:08have become the fake News Now who carry
1:42:10that information that agitation along as
1:42:13it goes viral according to the three
1:42:15criteria that probably sounded and felt
1:42:17like you and me and everybody else uh
1:42:21that ilol lays out says while this
1:42:23includes making full use of the party
1:42:25press and leaflets it also so there's
1:42:27your Twitter and such it also means
1:42:30widely and boldly doing spoken agitation
1:42:33so there's you going on podcasts and
1:42:35doing your show and saying audacious
1:42:38things making Clips putting the clips
1:42:41out to make sure that they go viral how
1:42:42many examples can you think of people
1:42:45whose bread and butter is that and I'm
1:42:48not talking about that that's what they
1:42:49do I'm talking about that they are
1:42:51making wide bold spoken agitation claims
1:42:56agitation remember as we're going to
1:42:58hear is about inflaming your emotions to
1:43:00drive you to
1:43:02action he says for agitation lends
1:43:04itself especially to the spoken word but
1:43:07what is agitation I would say into the
1:43:09video now but what is agitation and just
1:43:12what role does it play so section what
1:43:15is
1:43:16agitation and he says agitation whether
1:43:19spoken or written generally focuses on
1:43:22one event and one contradiction and
1:43:25seeks to make a single idea powerfully
1:43:28clear to Broad numbers of people it is
1:43:31like a sharp knife seeking to expose and
1:43:34make raw a glaring contradiction and
1:43:37draw blood around it an agitator
1:43:40focusing say on the US government's
1:43:43support for the shaw of Iran under the
1:43:46banner of bringing democracy to that
1:43:48country would focus on the Democracy the
1:43:51shaw is bringing to the People by
1:43:53shooting them down in the street and
1:43:55would bring out the class content of
1:43:57this imperialist democracy so you're
1:44:00going to use a very graphic kind of
1:44:02display or image to make a political
1:44:04point from your
1:44:07perspective or in an example cited by
1:44:10Lenin pointing to the death by
1:44:11starvation of an unemployed worker's
1:44:14family an agitator would seek to show
1:44:16quote the senselessness of the
1:44:19contradiction between the increase of
1:44:20wealth and the increase of poverty
1:44:23and he will strive to Rouse discontent
1:44:26and indignation among the masses against
1:44:29this crying Injustice and that comes
1:44:32from what is to be
1:44:33done a fuller explanation of this
1:44:36contradiction lenon points out will be
1:44:37left to the propagandist who has to
1:44:40present many ideas and their inter
1:44:43relation so propaganda will be
1:44:45understood in all around in an
1:44:48all-around Way by smaller numbers of
1:44:51people Okay so
1:44:53the goal of agitation is now to reach
1:44:56very large numbers of people it is not
1:44:57to explain the event to a small number
1:44:59of people but is to Rouse an emotional
1:45:03reaction specifically he says uh
1:45:05senselessness the contradiction to Rouse
1:45:08discontent and indignation among the
1:45:11masses so the goal is to Rouse lots of
1:45:14people to anger that's the goal of
1:45:17agitation you should feel when you
1:45:19encounter agitation an emotional
1:45:21response to it and that's probably an
1:45:24indicator that you might be dealing with
1:45:26it that's what I'm saying is it's time
1:45:28to slow down a little bit and ask
1:45:30yourself is this person a provocator is
1:45:33this person attempting to arouse are
1:45:35they attempting to inform me are they
1:45:37attempting to arouse an emotional
1:45:39reaction and what uses are they going to
1:45:41put that emotional reaction to because
1:45:43that's what agitation is
1:45:45for so this goes on why then is
1:45:48agitation such a particularly important
1:45:50weapon in the party's hands is it just
1:45:52that we want to be more mass than
1:45:54propaganda allows us to be while we
1:45:57certainly do seek to influence the
1:45:59broadest numbers of people this is not
1:46:01the heart of the matter first agitation
1:46:03is a necessary form of class struggle in
1:46:06order to go at it toe-to-toe with the
1:46:08Bourgeois for public opinion the
1:46:11Bourgeois is constantly drumming its
1:46:13view of events along with its upside
1:46:15down worldview through the course of a
1:46:18constant stream of particulars if we
1:46:20abandon this field of battle to the
1:46:22enemy we will lose by default only
1:46:25timely revolutionary agitation can clear
1:46:27up the smoke and point the finger at its
1:46:30source in each of these
1:46:33cases what ma said about the process of
1:46:36gaining knowledge is relevant to the
1:46:37role of agitation and building class
1:46:40Consciousness so this comes from Mal's
1:46:42work called on
1:46:44contradiction as regards the sequence of
1:46:47in the movement of man's knowledge there
1:46:49is always a gradual growth from the
1:46:51knowledge of the individual in
1:46:52particular things to the knowledge of
1:46:54the things in general only after a man
1:46:57knows the particular essence of many
1:46:59different things can he proceed to
1:47:01generalization and know the common
1:47:03essence of things when man attains the
1:47:05knowledge of this common Essence he uses
1:47:08it as a guide and proceeds to study
1:47:10various concrete things which have not
1:47:11yet been studied or studied thoroughly
1:47:14and to discover the particular essence
1:47:16of each only thus is he able to
1:47:18supplement enrich and develop his
1:47:20knowledge of the common Essence and
1:47:22prevent such Knowledge from withering or
1:47:24petrifying these are two processes of
1:47:27cognition one from the particular to the
1:47:29general and the other from the general
1:47:31to the
1:47:32particular ma here that was the end of
1:47:34the quote ma here and through his works
1:47:37is not advocating stages which would
1:47:39translate into agitation first and then
1:47:41later propaganda nor is he separating
1:47:43this whole process from the struggle to
1:47:45change the world but he is summing up
1:47:47laws of the process of Consciousness and
1:47:50what it what he says applies to the
1:47:51importance of why ranging and sharp
1:47:53revolutionary agitation dealing with
1:47:56many different
1:47:57things what he says here also speaks to
1:48:01the content of agitation it is exactly
1:48:04by focusing on the particular essence of
1:48:07the thing it is dealing with that
1:48:09agitation plays a part in painting the
1:48:11general picture of capitalist oppression
1:48:13and exploitation so you might pick a
1:48:16very particular thing about Israel you
1:48:17don't like and you hammer it right in
1:48:20order to create a general impression
1:48:22that theit States should not be allied
1:48:23with Israel or maybe you just don't know
1:48:26what Ally means you don't know that it's
1:48:27short for Alliance you learned something
1:48:29today you never know exactly because
1:48:32this General picture the basic class
1:48:34contradiction resides in an endless
1:48:36number of particular instances agitation
1:48:39in this way can play its role in
1:48:41pointing toward this common Essence as
1:48:43ma puts it this kind of sharply focused
1:48:47agitation around a particular
1:48:49contradiction is not narrow and
1:48:50revisionist it is quite the opposite of
1:48:52of the revisionist line for making
1:48:54everything palpable to reduce the
1:48:56general down to one or a few particulars
1:49:00this line with which we have had recent
1:49:02and Rich experience with the menix in
1:49:05our own party rank seeks to reduce all
1:49:08understanding to the most narrow and Bal
1:49:11if someone should begin to get the idea
1:49:13that imperialism is the enemy in Africa
1:49:15for example how terrible how hopelessly
1:49:18abstract quick let's put a face on the
1:49:20enemy as they would say and Target some
1:49:23local bank how much more concrete and
1:49:26how much easier for the masses to
1:49:28swallow if someone begins to get an
1:49:30inkling that capitalism is behind
1:49:32unemployment hurry and put that useless
1:49:34spark of understanding sorry sorry hurry
1:49:38and put out that useless spark of
1:49:40understanding and pin the blame on the
1:49:41president's
1:49:44policies so the idea here them with
1:49:47agitation is to make things very
1:49:48specific to give very colorful examples
1:49:51and again the goal is to arouse the
1:49:53emotions and to connect concretely with
1:49:56people remember what Hitler said about
1:49:57how it has to work it has to create a
1:50:01sense of necessity and a sense of moral
1:50:05need
1:50:07right so this article goes on to say
1:50:10this is dead against the correct
1:50:12understanding of the fact that the
1:50:14general resides in the particular its
1:50:16motion it's thrust so this is all the
1:50:18dialectics behind it is basically what
1:50:20this Mal diversion is about its motion
1:50:23its thrust is headlong in the opposite
1:50:25direction real agitation by dealing with
1:50:27the particularity of contradiction seeks
1:50:30to point forward to the broader picture
1:50:32its aim is not to leave things at the
1:50:34level of the particular as lenon put it
1:50:37quote we must make it our concern to
1:50:39direct the thoughts of those who are
1:50:42dissatisfied only with conditions at the
1:50:44University or in the zfo Town Council
1:50:48Etc to the idea that the entire
1:50:51political system is working worthless
1:50:53end quote and that's from what is to be
1:50:55done so let me give you another example
1:50:57from the woke right although we could
1:50:58use the woke left it' be really easy
1:51:00woke left here's your example everything
1:51:02that you've ever heard of is racist when
1:51:04they say x is racist the sky is racist
1:51:07weather is racist food is racist
1:51:08whatever is racist everything is racist
1:51:10the bank is racist everything is racist
1:51:12writing is racist reading is racist
1:51:14podcasts are racist guitars are racist
1:51:16everything is racist they're picking
1:51:18particulars and attaching the concept of
1:51:20racism to it why because when you've
1:51:23seen a few examples you start to believe
1:51:24the whole society is
1:51:26racist now let's look at a woke right
1:51:29example right you could start to say
1:51:32that everything for the far kind of
1:51:34extreme everything is Jewish power
1:51:35Jewish power this Jewish power that the
1:51:37Jews probably funded you know the the
1:51:40Muslims to come out and make themselves
1:51:41look bad or you know whatever and so you
1:51:44have the exact same kind of dynamic
1:51:47possible to go on there so you give
1:51:48example after example after example in
1:51:51this kind of extreme one like those
1:51:53posters they post where they show all
1:51:54these different people some of whom
1:51:56aren't even Jewish who are Jewish who
1:51:57work in different things where they
1:51:59bring up and they say well look at this
1:52:00guy with the pornography and he was
1:52:02Jewish and look at this guy and he was
1:52:04Jewish and look at the critical theorist
1:52:05and they were Jewish and wasn't Marx
1:52:06Jewish and weren't they Jewish and
1:52:07Jewish and Jewish so that is this idea
1:52:10of using agitation your that that's an
1:52:14key example of exactly what Lenin is
1:52:16talking about here and it could have
1:52:18been racist and here it's Jewish that's
1:52:20a freaking great example right or you
1:52:23could focus on every instance in that
1:52:26you can find in which say white people
1:52:28get disenfranchised by Dei policy and
1:52:30affirmative action and start
1:52:32characterizing it as deliberate
1:52:34anti-white racism now is it racist
1:52:36against white people yes it is yes it is
1:52:38it's still discriminatory against White
1:52:40People based on their immutable
1:52:43characteristic of whiteness or whatever
1:52:45and their skin color yes it is but the
1:52:48point of CRT the point of Dei and the
1:52:50point of affirmative action were not to
1:52:51do racism against a particular group it
1:52:53is to advance
1:52:54Marxist aims as a matter of fact de CT
1:52:58are located as I did a podcast about
1:53:00recently in the corinia program from
1:53:03Soviet Union and its goal under it the
1:53:06corinia means putting down Roots it's
1:53:09basically Dei or in the inclusion
1:53:11portion well one of its subprograms or
1:53:14objectives was called rasn braia in
1:53:16Russian if I say it right I don't know
1:53:18Ros nuia refers to um diversity in fact
1:53:21it is the word for diversity and the way
1:53:23that Lennon explained it is that you get
1:53:25unity in form uh no sorry unity and
1:53:28content through diversity and form
1:53:30that's exactly the way CRT works right
1:53:35you it doesn't really matter what color
1:53:37you are it's like 75% of the CRT people
1:53:39and Dei people are white people it
1:53:41doesn't matter what color you are right
1:53:43the point and it doesn't matter if
1:53:44you're black because if you're Larry
1:53:46Elder you don't count if you're if
1:53:47you're um Dave Chappelle you don't count
1:53:51if you're any black person who stood up
1:53:54against any part of any of the leftist
1:53:56stuff you don't count you're somehow a
1:53:58racist too you have internalized racism
1:54:00or whatever so it wasn't really about
1:54:02skin color it was about creating unity
1:54:04in thought through the excuse of
1:54:06diversity and in form so you're going to
1:54:08find literally token minorities to bring
1:54:11in who all think exactly the same way so
1:54:14that then you can say we're meeting
1:54:16these diversity quot is but what you're
1:54:17really doing is using it as an excuse to
1:54:19bring in commissars which is what we've
1:54:20been explaining all along if you were to
1:54:22mischaracterize this program and say
1:54:24it's deliberate anti-white racism first
1:54:26of all you're you're wrong because it's
1:54:2875% or something like that is a
1:54:30statistic 78% or something like that of
1:54:32Dei coordinators or white people uh it's
1:54:34not that it is ideological
1:54:36discrimination that's using the skin
1:54:39color as a proxy so it's happening but
1:54:41it's not the intention it's not the
1:54:42purpose but you could start to point out
1:54:44anti-white anti-white anti-white
1:54:46anti-white anti-white anti-white
1:54:48anti-white he's a Jew he's a Jew he's a
1:54:50Jew he's a Jew he's a Jew this is racist
1:54:52that's racist this is racist this is
1:54:53racist how how water upholds ctivity
1:54:57blah blah blah blah blah you can just
1:54:59see it's the same pattern over and over
1:55:01again what we're actually dealing with
1:55:02here is what lenon is describing as
1:55:04agitation and what this article is
1:55:06describing as
1:55:08agitation why because the point is that
1:55:11you point out something at the level of
1:55:13the particular that elicits a response
1:55:16but it's aim is not to leave the thing
1:55:17at the level of the particular cuz
1:55:19you're going to sit there and think wow
1:55:20there are a lot of Jews doing bad things
1:55:22or wow a lot of stuff really does have
1:55:25racial bias built into it or wow you
1:55:28know maybe there really is a CIS
1:55:30heteronormative structure that doesn't
1:55:33like
1:55:34queers and wow you know maybe it's true
1:55:39that there's anti-white racism you know
1:55:41is is what they've really been doing to
1:55:43us because they hate white people and
1:55:45you start to get this isn't if you're a
1:55:47white guy who's been discriminated
1:55:48against or knows somebody who has been
1:55:49that's probably going to elicit your
1:55:51emotional response in this need and
1:55:53you're going to be angry and that's the
1:55:54point of the agitation so the point of
1:55:56my podcast is do you understand how
1:55:58agitation works as a form of as part of
1:56:01agit prop and the the the CRT lesson
1:56:04that you have to go take in diversity
1:56:06training is the propaganda part right
1:56:08that's where they try to like integrate
1:56:10you into a new set of norms the
1:56:12agitation part is to create the
1:56:14emotional reaction that triggers you to
1:56:16think differently and it's done through
1:56:19particulars as lendon put it that point
1:56:21to toward the entirety of the system
1:56:25being
1:56:27corrupt going on with the article still
1:56:29this does not negate but in fact
1:56:31emphasizes the importance of dealing
1:56:33with the particularity of contradiction
1:56:36it is through repeated digging into many
1:56:38different particulars like I said every
1:56:40single thing is racist every single
1:56:42thing that happens to white people is
1:56:44somehow anti-white racism and on and on
1:56:46and on right every it's looking at
1:56:48another Jew another Jew another Jew
1:56:50right it is through repeat repeatedly
1:56:52digging into many different particulars
1:56:54that agitation plays its important role
1:56:57in indicating the bigger picture which
1:56:59by the way is not the bigger picture of
1:57:01Truth it is the bigger picture remember
1:57:02what Hitler said it is the bigger
1:57:04picture you are trying to paint it is
1:57:06the advertising poster you were trying
1:57:09to create to get people to come into
1:57:10your ideology and that's how you judge
1:57:12whether or not it's successful this is
1:57:15true for example it says of our party's
1:57:17worker newspapers which combine local
1:57:20news with a central news service
1:57:22although they contain important
1:57:24propaganda articles they consist mainly
1:57:27of agitation each issue should present
1:57:29an overall picture of our society and
1:57:31indicate the need for proletarian
1:57:33Revolution to overthrow the present
1:57:35order and establish socialism but this
1:57:38picture should emerge from a whole
1:57:39series of articles that concentrate
1:57:41powerfully on one Central Point and
1:57:43drive it home this in fact will be far
1:57:46more effective in presenting this
1:57:47overall picture than if each article
1:57:49attempted to cover many points and make
1:57:51in general the overall points about
1:57:54capitalism and the need to overthrow it
1:57:56such a paper would contain many words
1:57:58but say very
1:58:00little this point about the General in
1:58:03particular also speaks to the principle
1:58:05behind an important statement made by
1:58:07Lenin on exposures which are mainly in
1:58:10the form of agitation in what is to be
1:58:12done Lennon points out that in order to
1:58:14develop class Consciousness workers must
1:58:16gain a clear picture of the nature of
1:58:19the system and the different classes in
1:58:20society and this quote cannot be
1:58:23obtained from any book it can only be
1:58:26obtained from living examples and from
1:58:29exposures that so lived experience and
1:58:32exposures that follow close upon what is
1:58:34going on about us at a given moment
1:58:36remember when Paulo Fredy talks about as
1:58:38I've covered in many podcasts and stuff
1:58:40before talks about how you have to have
1:58:42your you have to have the examples have
1:58:45to be concrete you have to draw from the
1:58:47concrete experience lived experience of
1:58:49the uh people that you're trying to to
1:58:52awaken to a critical Consciousness Lenin
1:58:54goes on uh so I have to reread that can
1:58:57be obtained only from living examples
1:58:59and from exposures that follow close
1:59:01upon what is going on about us in any
1:59:02given moment upon what is being
1:59:04discussed in Whispers perhaps by each
1:59:07one in his own way upon what finds
1:59:09expression in such and such events in
1:59:11such and such statistics and in such and
1:59:13such Court sentences etc etc these
1:59:16comprehensive political exposures are an
1:59:18essential and fundamental condition for
1:59:20training the masses and revolutionary
1:59:22activity and in the same section in
1:59:25Brackets uh in the same section Lenin
1:59:27also says in no way except by means of
1:59:31such exposures can the masses be trained
1:59:33in political Consciousness and in
1:59:35Revolutionary
1:59:37activity these statements the newspaper
1:59:39says clearly speak to the central
1:59:42importance of timely and sharp agitation
1:59:44it is not enough to explain to the
1:59:46masses that they are oppressed or that
1:59:48their interests are antagonistic to the
1:59:50capitalists as lenon puts it quote
1:59:52agitation must be conducted with regard
1:59:54to every concrete example of this
1:59:57oppression that comes from what is to be
1:59:59done this is racist that is racist
2:00:02Everything is anti-white Everything is
2:00:04anti-white Everything is a Jew you got
2:00:06the idea right while propaganda plays a
2:00:09generally a genuinely important role
2:00:12such General explanations especially
2:00:14when tagged onto basically reformist
2:00:16work and when done in a stereo sterile
2:00:19stereotyped way play an important role
2:00:22only in dulling our agitation and boring
2:00:24the readers or
2:00:26listeners that's harsh if we carry out
2:00:29our work around capitalism socialism and
2:00:31communism in this kind of bookish
2:00:32stilted simplistic way sounds like
2:00:35Hitler it will often seem to people that
2:00:37we talk too much about politics and we
2:00:40will not really have broken with
2:00:41reformism but if we carry out the kind
2:00:44of all-around political work and
2:00:45agitation Lenin calls for and in this
2:00:48context also conduct scientific
2:00:50propaganda then people will not not be
2:00:52able to get enough of such politics if
2:00:55for example around the question of
2:00:57imperialist aggression and War we
2:00:59largely confine ourselves to repeating
2:01:01the same general statements about
2:01:02imperialism and War and plunder and the
2:01:05superpowers are contending and preparing
2:01:07for war we will fall way short of the
2:01:10mark But if we shed our laziness and
2:01:12really dig into the heart of what
2:01:14imperialism means in a thousand specific
2:01:16instances to the people of the whole
2:01:18world if we actually expose the real
2:01:20conditions feelings and struggles of the
2:01:22masses subjected to imperialist
2:01:23enslavement as well as the actual
2:01:26character of wars fought by the
2:01:27imperialists then we will be making real
2:01:29strides in The crucial task of
2:01:31instilling among the American workers a
2:01:34hatred for the American flag and all it
2:01:36stands
2:01:38for next section is called contradiction
2:01:42the heart of
2:01:44agitation all this speaks to the need to
2:01:47sharpen our agitation to make it more
2:01:49revolutionary and as already indicated
2:01:51in a number of ways the key to this the
2:01:53heart of agitation is a grasp on the
2:01:56question of contradiction when we speak
2:01:59of doing exposures for example what we
2:02:01are basically what are we basically
2:02:03speaking of exposing contradiction and
2:02:06its class content exposure means
2:02:09revealing what is hidden and covered up
2:02:12this however means more than radical
2:02:14muckraking although bis muuk should
2:02:17indeed be raked for raw material that
2:02:19concretely exposes the class character
2:02:21of Society fundamentally what is hidden
2:02:24and covered up by capitalism are the
2:02:26basic laws and class character of the
2:02:28contradictions in society behind such
2:02:31murky Mists as equal exchange work for
2:02:35wages democracy and national interests
2:02:38lie
2:02:39exploitation capitalist dictatorship and
2:02:42worldwide reaction all of which demand
2:02:45the sharp knife of exposure especially
2:02:47agitation to lay them bare and
2:02:50raw the task of laying be contradiction
2:02:53has to be grasped consciously in
2:02:55opposition to eclectic reformist and
2:02:58boring stuff that meanders here and
2:03:00wanders there kind of like this article
2:03:02Communists must muster revolutionary
2:03:04spirit in science to develop agitation
2:03:07that dives right to the heart of the
2:03:08contradiction and rips the Bourgeois
2:03:11Bourgeois and Bourgeois Society a
2:03:14contradiction Beed raises people's
2:03:16interests and also raises their fighting
2:03:18Spirit if we grasp contradiction then
2:03:21our agitation will really hound and tear
2:03:24at the
2:03:25Bourgeois if we uh grasp contradiction
2:03:29then our agitation can powerfully
2:03:31popularize and draw the lessons from the
2:03:34struggles of the people in since humor
2:03:37even as any good bis comedian knows is
2:03:40based on contradiction and contrast then
2:03:42we can even wield this weapon turns out
2:03:45no they can't and what would be so bad
2:03:48about that it is not required that the
2:03:50Communists be dull and humorless no law
2:03:53nothing in Marxism leninism Ms a tongue
2:03:56thought mandates it let me actually take
2:03:58that back what I said yes they can we
2:04:00can joke that they're not funny now and
2:04:02then they're post comedy era but um a
2:04:05lot of this crap got moved down the
2:04:07track by John Stewart who was riotously
2:04:10funny a lot of this stuff got moved down
2:04:12the track by the late night comedian
2:04:14guys who are riotously funny and by
2:04:16stand-up comedians who were actually
2:04:17riotously funny um critical theory done
2:04:21very well is often done through comedy
2:04:24and so they can but they have to
2:04:27actually be puncturing real power right
2:04:29and that's where it kind of matters as
2:04:32to whether or not they're when when they
2:04:34became Power they lost their ability to
2:04:36be funny um which is a warning by the
2:04:38way for the new right that thinks
2:04:40they're so humor full or humorous and
2:04:42funny right you're not funny when you're
2:04:44powerful your jokes stop being funny
2:04:46really fast so you know yeah you guys
2:04:49can meme today but you're the one is
2:04:51trying to be in power now so you're not
2:04:53going to be funny for long
2:04:57um we have this same idea though right
2:04:59so the goal of agitation is to awaken
2:05:01the Revolutionary spirit and it's it's
2:05:04done through contradiction it's done
2:05:06through showing that this isn't working
2:05:08right so the idea might be from the woke
2:05:10right perspective with the Jewish thing
2:05:12you might say well you think that all
2:05:13these people that have been building out
2:05:15Society are good people but look at this
2:05:16all these bad things happen and they're
2:05:18all Jewish there's a disproportionate
2:05:19number of Jewish people that are bad so
2:05:21maybe maybe the contradiction is you
2:05:23think Jewish people are good religious
2:05:24people but look how many bad things are
2:05:26involved in and by the way have you read
2:05:27the talmud and now we're into the
2:05:29propaganda side that the agitation
2:05:30opened up to see how that works um same
2:05:35thing with the CRT oh you think this is
2:05:36all great but how do you how does it
2:05:37make black people feel when XYZ and now
2:05:40you've got the whole racial Dynamic and
2:05:42maybe you should read this track by
2:05:43Robin D'Angelo and engage in some
2:05:45self-criticism same
2:05:47thing so the idea is to pull up that
2:05:50contradiction yeah we have a colorblind
2:05:52Society where black people just can't
2:05:53make
2:05:54it because there must be something wrong
2:05:56with them that's what literally ibram
2:05:58kend's argument for why you should buy
2:06:01his snake
2:06:03oil going back to the article to grasp
2:06:06contradiction and to wield the weapon of
2:06:07revolutionary agitation then we have to
2:06:09discard what ma says uh ma refers to as
2:06:13the quote formalist method classifying
2:06:15things according to their external
2:06:16features instead of their internal
2:06:19relations according to this method a war
2:06:22of Liberation and an imperialist war of
2:06:24aggression could be lumped together
2:06:25since both involve Bloodshed he then
2:06:28goes on to warn quote if one takes a
2:06:31conglomeration of Concepts that are not
2:06:33internally related and arranges them
2:06:35into an article speech or report simply
2:06:37according to the external features of
2:06:39things then one is juggling with
2:06:41Concepts and may also lead others to
2:06:43indulge in the same sort of game with
2:06:46the result that they do not use their
2:06:47brains to think over problems and probe
2:06:50into the essence of things but are
2:06:52satisfied merely to list phenomena in
2:06:54ABCD order what is a problem a problem
2:06:57is the contradiction in a thing so
2:07:01there's actually uh this is kind of
2:07:04funny because you know the the
2:07:07destroying of the relevant context I'm
2:07:09thinking right now of Ian Carroll who at
2:07:11earlier today from when I'm recording
2:07:13this put on Twitter where something
2:07:15about how apparently Israel has more
2:07:17hostages than than Hamas had but what
2:07:20he's doing is counting ing War prisoners
2:07:23as hostages um so he's now mixed kind of
2:07:25two things together what Ma's talking
2:07:27about here kind of relates to exactly
2:07:29that kind of agitation that was
2:07:31agitation right cuz you're like what
2:07:33thought Israel was supposed to be the
2:07:34good guy in the war they have hostages
2:07:36they have hostages too thought was about
2:07:38their the other hostages and now you've
2:07:41agitated emotional state right so that
2:07:43was a piece of agitation propaganda put
2:07:45out by Ian Caroll and so if we take a
2:07:47look at this though what actually what
2:07:49Ma is saying is that there's you
2:07:51actually you can't just say you can't
2:07:54like you can't really you can do what
2:07:56Ian did but right where but he did it
2:07:59backwards uh he did it in reverse but
2:08:01the way that it works is he's like you
2:08:02got to actually understand what the
2:08:03things he's like you know if the left
2:08:06does it what he's literally arguing for
2:08:09by the way in this is uh is repressive
2:08:12tolerance versus liberating tolerance if
2:08:14the left does it no no no you have to
2:08:17understand that's a war for Liberation
2:08:19that's what he was talking about that's
2:08:20what he said right according to this
2:08:21method a war of Liberation and an
2:08:23imperialist war of aggression could be
2:08:25considered like they're the same thing
2:08:27so what Ian did was kind of the opposite
2:08:29he considered two different things
2:08:31hostages and uh War prisoners as the
2:08:36same
2:08:37thing it can go either way but what and
2:08:41the reason it works that way for Ian is
2:08:43because he's looking as ma would have it
2:08:45into the Inner Essence of things that
2:08:46Israel is the bad guy that's the Inner
2:08:48Essence of things and that's what needs
2:08:50to be exposed so then you can take
2:08:51liberties with how you present the
2:08:52information so that it puts that point
2:08:54remember when uh Hitler said about
2:08:57propaganda that the point is that what
2:08:59you're going to do is you're going to
2:09:00Pro promote a version of the facts right
2:09:03aspects of the truth that tell a
2:09:05particular story that's what Ma was
2:09:07saying here too and that's what Ian
2:09:08Carroll did with the example that I'm
2:09:11giving what he's saying is that when you
2:09:13understand what your overall political
2:09:15goal is that you're going to tailor the
2:09:16way that you report information in order
2:09:18to match it and that's how agitation is
2:09:19going to be produced
2:09:22so what this article says is but is it
2:09:24enough to Simply pose the problem or
2:09:25state the contradiction while this may
2:09:27suffice in some cases generally to fully
2:09:30play its role agitation requires more
2:09:32than this around a general contradiction
2:09:35a central contradiction sorry and a
2:09:36clear-cut stand facts and Analysis must
2:09:39be mustered all to strengthen and drive
2:09:41home the Central Point agitation does
2:09:43not exclude analysis because analysis
2:09:47means probing investigating and thus
2:09:49laying bare contradiction it is not
2:09:51enough for an agitational article on a
2:09:53tax hike to leave it at the little man
2:09:56gets screwed for one thing this doesn't
2:09:58distinguish Communists one wit from
2:10:01populists and common reformers remember
2:10:03you that's what I was just saying you
2:10:04know who the good guys are so everything
2:10:06has to be framed out in the name of the
2:10:07good guys just like Hitler said is what
2:10:10you're going to do in war propaganda is
2:10:12you're going to make sure that you
2:10:13always present in a completely biased
2:10:15way your own side as perfectly good not
2:10:18to mention this article says that a
2:10:20constant barrage of such stuff will
2:10:22leave a reader with a very bored and
2:10:24empty feeling it is necessary to go
2:10:26deeper to analyze the forces involved in
2:10:29producing and profiting from such an
2:10:30attack and indicate the basic class
2:10:33relations and laws of society standing
2:10:35behind and underlying it the
2:10:37Revolutionary solution to this
2:10:39contradiction should be indicated to the
2:10:41course of course agitation cannot do
2:10:45this in the same all-around way as
2:10:47propaganda and develop the relation of
2:10:49this particular case to imperialism
2:10:51crisis and the inevitability of
2:10:52socialist Revolution ma spoke to this
2:10:55whole problem quite
2:10:58pointedly quote some of our comrades
2:11:00love to write long articles with no
2:11:02substance very much like the foot
2:11:04bindings of a slatter long as well as
2:11:07smelly why must they write such long and
2:11:10empty articles there can only be one
2:11:12explanation they're determined the
2:11:13masses shall not read them if long and
2:11:16empty articles are no good or short and
2:11:18empty ones any better they're no good
2:11:20either we should forbid all empty talk
2:11:23above all we need articles that have
2:11:25substance that's the end of the quote
2:11:28going on when exposing the Bourgeois
2:11:30revolutionary agitation must above all
2:11:33be
2:11:35bloodthirsty it must mercilessly laid
2:11:38Bare The Vicious oppression and
2:11:40disgusting hypocrisy of the burgeois the
2:11:43need for violent overthrow of this
2:11:45rotten system should Pierce every issue
2:11:48of our newspapers it must break clearly
2:11:51with all Notions of burgeois
2:11:53respectability reformism or trade
2:11:55unionism and speak wholeheartedly for
2:11:58the proletariat the class that has truly
2:12:00nothing to lose but its chains how else
2:12:03is it possible to cut through the Crusty
2:12:05layers of crud including bis ideology
2:12:09that permeate bis society and certainly
2:12:12penetrate into the working class so
2:12:14there's a piece this is all propaganda
2:12:16by the way and there's a piece of
2:12:17agitation buried in the propaganda right
2:12:19they must speak wholeheartedly for the
2:12:20proletary and here it is the class that
2:12:22truly has nothing to lose but its chains
2:12:24well the experience this was written in
2:12:251978 bro the experience of the communist
2:12:28countries that it existed up to 1978 is
2:12:30that the proletariat pretty much lost
2:12:32effing everything so it turns out by
2:12:35trying to get rid of their chains they
2:12:36took up new chains and ended up in a
2:12:38much worse situation right so it turns
2:12:40out that's a lie but it's a rousing lie
2:12:42right it's the kind of story that they
2:12:44tell to get oh all we have to lose is
2:12:46our chains you know we're not we're
2:12:48we're the little guy you know in a
2:12:50functioning Society
2:12:52where there's Freedom you have the whole
2:12:54functioning Society where there's
2:12:55Freedom part to lose as it turns out but
2:12:57oh you're just a little guy you're a
2:12:58little guy so that's agitating right
2:13:00you're the guy who doesn't have really
2:13:01anything to lose in this society and
2:13:03notice the pun the trick there you don't
2:13:05have much to lose in this Society
2:13:08because you're at the bottom right yeah
2:13:09well the fact is you still have the
2:13:10society to lose and then you're worse
2:13:12off uh so that's how the agitation
2:13:15actually works it makes you feel like oh
2:13:18I don't have anything to lose so I might
2:13:19as well be a revolutionary but the fact
2:13:21is it's doing so by disguising the fact
2:13:24that you have a lot to lose by losing
2:13:25the society which is what you would get
2:13:27by becoming a
2:13:30revolutionary quoting from uh ma he says
2:13:35we must firmly uphold the truth and
2:13:36truth requires a clear-cut stand we
2:13:38Communists have always disdained to
2:13:41conceal our views newspapers run by our
2:13:44party and all the propaganda work of our
2:13:47party should be Vivid clear-cut and
2:13:49sharp and should never mutter and Mum
2:13:51just like what elil says about what GBL
2:13:54said that is the militant style proper
2:13:57to us the Revolutionary proletariat
2:13:59since we want to teach the people to
2:14:00know the truth and arouse them to fight
2:14:02for their own emancipation we need this
2:14:04militant style a blunt blunt knife draws
2:14:08no
2:14:09blood so he writes the newspaper writes
2:14:12if agitation and propaganda for that
2:14:14matter do not start from this clear-cut
2:14:16stand then they are worthless when
2:14:19supposedly agitational article wander
2:14:21about from point to point qualifying
2:14:23themselves in equivocating there's
2:14:25usually something wrong with the line as
2:14:27well as the style and adding a few
2:14:29paragraphs about capitalism and
2:14:31socialism onto the end of an essentially
2:14:33trade unionist or reformist political
2:14:35article will not save it from not being
2:14:37non-revolutionary in fact this is often
2:14:40a tip off that the agitation didn't draw
2:14:42a bit of blood in the first place of
2:14:45course taking a clear-cut stand means
2:14:48more than a militant posturing or just
2:14:50cursing the enemy a pig can and should
2:14:53be called for the Beast he
2:14:55is but as an overall approach this won't
2:14:58measure up Ma also condemned writing
2:15:01that quote strikes oppose in order to
2:15:03intimidate people against this enemy the
2:15:07against the enemy this tactic of
2:15:08intimidation is utterly useless and with
2:15:10our own comrades it can only do harm
2:15:13that's end quote so by digging into a
2:15:15contradiction by taking a clear stand
2:15:18agitation seeks to unite with the Bas
2:15:21basic class feelings feelings feelings
2:15:24feelings of the masses and raise them to
2:15:26a new and higher level so
2:15:29agitate in defining agitation lenon said
2:15:32it should Rouse
2:15:33discontent he did not say it should
2:15:35squelch it under a dry pretense of a
2:15:38scientific approach notice how similar
2:15:40this is to what Hitler said right which
2:15:42is not at all the Revolutionary science
2:15:44of Marxism leninism ma dong thought our
2:15:48agitation must aim to hone sharpen an
2:15:50intense ify basic class anger by raising
2:15:53it to a higher class conscious level so
2:15:57when you encounter information on the
2:15:59internet much of what you're
2:16:00encountering is agitation that fits this
2:16:03description what you are going to use as
2:16:06your kind of you know thermometer to
2:16:08tell if you're dealing with something
2:16:10that's likely to be agitation is does
2:16:12the agitation that you're reading aim to
2:16:15hone sharpen and intensify basic anger
2:16:18built around a class identity is it
2:16:21meant to make white people mad about
2:16:24their circumstances it meant to make
2:16:25black people mad about their
2:16:27circumstances it meant to make anybody
2:16:29mad about their circumstances it meant
2:16:31to make Christians mad about their
2:16:32circumstances it meant to make Heritage
2:16:35Americans mad about their circumstances
2:16:37against
2:16:40immigrants if it is you should step
2:16:44back you will encounter information that
2:16:46makes you mad there is legitimate
2:16:48information out there that makes you mad
2:16:50but you need to understand that the you
2:16:52are in a propaganda saturated
2:16:54environment agit prop is everywhere
2:16:57especially on social media and you might
2:16:59be encountering information that was
2:17:00deliberately tailored in a way
2:17:03especially from large Anonymous accounts
2:17:05that are very popular that nobody knows
2:17:07why and you don't know who run them they
2:17:09might be run by Bad actors agents
2:17:11provocator or
2:17:12foreigners when you encounter that you
2:17:15are needing you need to slow down and
2:17:18you need to think am I being roused to
2:17:21is there more to this story you need to
2:17:23adopt the scientific mindset that is
2:17:26directly opposed to uh the point of
2:17:30propaganda especially agitating
2:17:31propaganda if it is aiming to hone
2:17:34sharpen and intensify basic class anger
2:17:37by raising it to a higher class
2:17:39conscious level we need to band together
2:17:41as whites we need to blame the Jews you
2:17:45might want to slow down slow down
2:17:51here it says but we need but to do this
2:17:54requires being selective agitation must
2:17:56not focus on Petty but really typical
2:17:59and glaring evils agitation so in other
2:18:02words it's going to have to tap into
2:18:03things that really piss people off
2:18:06agitation it is true is mainly
2:18:07characterized by its broadness its
2:18:09allaround character here we are speaking
2:18:12of agitation as a category not anyone
2:18:14example of agitation as lenon put it
2:18:16quote communism Springs from positively
2:18:19every sphere of public life in other
2:18:21words it's a totalizing ideology that
2:18:23you can shoehorn everything into
2:18:25everything is racist like we were
2:18:26talking about and the light of agitation
2:18:29it says must be brought to bear on all
2:18:31these spheres and keeping this with our
2:18:33party uh and keeping sorry in keeping
2:18:37with this our party has formulated the
2:18:39policy of quote concentrated struggles
2:18:41and Broad exposures but in a sense
2:18:45agitation must be concentrated too there
2:18:47are some events that lend themselves
2:18:49much more than others to powerfully
2:18:51laying be the contradictions of
2:18:53capitalism or whatever else you want
2:18:55take for example the Houston cops murder
2:18:57of Cho veteran Joe Torres and the
2:19:00resulting $1 fine imposed on these pigs
2:19:03because it was concentrated so starkly
2:19:05on the contradictions of national
2:19:07oppression and police Terror there was a
2:19:09deep response among the masses to
2:19:11agitation around this imagine if they
2:19:13pulled that same trick in like 2020 or
2:19:15something many took up as their own the
2:19:18excellent agitational slogan Joe Torres
2:19:20dead cops go free that's what the rich
2:19:23called democracy they love little
2:19:25rhyming slogans don't they other less
2:19:27Stark events such as the personal story
2:19:29of an immigrant worker for example may
2:19:31also powerfully typify and concentrate
2:19:33broadly felt and important
2:19:35contradictions get ready for some of
2:19:37those by the way ladies and gentlemen
2:19:39but many other events cannot and will
2:19:41not have the same effect understanding
2:19:43this and carrying this through requires
2:19:45the mass line the point Mal made about
2:19:49methods of leadership ship applies here
2:19:52quote take the ideas of the masses
2:19:54scattered and unsystematic ideas and
2:19:57concentrate them through study turn them
2:19:59into concentrated and systematic ideas
2:20:02then go to the masses and propagate and
2:20:04explain these ideas until the masses
2:20:06embrace them as their own end quote so
2:20:09that's the mass line you take what the
2:20:11masses are rumbling about then you focus
2:20:14them in a particular useful direction we
2:20:16call this reflexivity now then you feed
2:20:19it back to them in a way that's going to
2:20:20agitate them into flying off the handle
2:20:24to realize its full power agitation must
2:20:27have National scope for agitation to
2:20:29play its full full role really sharp and
2:20:31typical cases must be selected and some
2:20:34must be spread Nationwide for this
2:20:37reason as well as to provide for Unity
2:20:39of the political line the worker
2:20:41newspapers are linked together into a
2:20:43network by the party centrally which
2:20:45provides these papers with exposure and
2:20:47propaganda on a national scale so what
2:20:50can we take take from that which sounded
2:20:51like a boring silly little paragraph
2:20:53that's off the point the point is what
2:20:55you're going to find is that agit
2:20:56agitation is working typically in
2:20:58campaigns that are coordinated this is a
2:21:00lot easier with the internet than with
2:21:02linkages of newspapers that they had to
2:21:04use in
2:21:051978 but you can expect that there are
2:21:09networks of influencers who are like you
2:21:11put it out and then I'll say something
2:21:13then I'll amplify it then I'll say
2:21:15something then you say something then
2:21:16you say something and so you create the
2:21:18reflexive image across all of social
2:21:21media that everybody's talking about
2:21:22something right now what what would be
2:21:23an example of that remember that
2:21:25manufactured fake H1B Visa debate that
2:21:28happened on Christmas from a bunch of
2:21:30influencers who had never ever talked
2:21:32about H-1B visas in their entire lives
2:21:34and somehow made it the most important
2:21:35issue in the universe and a hugely
2:21:37divisive issue for Maga that got
2:21:41blatantly co-opted by Bad actors
2:21:43somewhere in the middle of it that were
2:21:44pushing it into profoundly racist
2:21:46directions and going Way Beyond trying
2:21:49to focus and to take Beyond to excite to
2:21:52agitate Beyond into into
2:22:19anti-legalization about um we are the
2:22:21fake news now very important to realize
2:22:24the role that these cross-pollinating or
2:22:27cross-promotional influencer networks
2:22:29play in creating the illusion of a
2:22:32current thing that everybody has to talk
2:22:34about which might very well be tied into
2:22:36or a door opening for an agitation
2:22:39campaign that you've probably now been
2:22:41put through again you live in a
2:22:43propaganda rich or a propaganda
2:22:45saturated battle space and you have to
2:22:48understand how this works or you're
2:22:49going to get sucked in into it and
2:22:51remember one of the characteristics of
2:22:52being sucked into it being vulnerable to
2:22:55it is the desire to put out your opinion
2:22:57on every single
2:23:00issue also being exposed to huge amounts
2:23:03of information that you can't
2:23:04independently verify most of which you
2:23:05get
2:23:07secondhand so agitation and mass action
2:23:10agitation that sharply exposes the bis
2:23:13and puts forward the struggles of the
2:23:14people will clearly be a powerful force
2:23:16in relation to the task of mobilizing
2:23:18people for struggles against the enemy
2:23:20but it is important to be clear on just
2:23:22how agitation does relate to this task
2:23:25Lenin points out clearly in what is to
2:23:27be done that agitation is not a call to
2:23:30action this was D in direct opposition
2:23:34to a narrow Economist line that tried to
2:23:36reduce the tasks of Communists to
2:23:38promoting struggles for immediate
2:23:40palpable results and speaking about the
2:23:43Bolshevik revolutionary agitation and
2:23:45propaganda around a famine in Russia
2:23:47Lenin sarcastically remarked quote their
2:23:49articles contained oh horror not a
2:23:51single can you imagine it not a single
2:23:54concrete demand promising palpable
2:23:56results poor doctrinaires end quote if
2:24:00agitation is seen basically as calls to
2:24:03action then Communists far from being
2:24:05tribunes of people will become chickens
2:24:08with their heads cut off and Petty
2:24:10reformers running after everything and
2:24:11accomplishing nothing so you got to do
2:24:14something different you're not just
2:24:15going to be um get putting out calls to
2:24:19action the you're your typical agitation
2:24:21isn't that it's something that's
2:24:22stirring up your emotions the point of
2:24:25agitation in agit prop agitation and
2:24:27propaganda is to stir you up is to Rouse
2:24:31your emotions is to piss you off make
2:24:33you mad make you feel like there is a
2:24:36moral and practical necessity to start
2:24:39doing
2:24:41something Lenin of course it says while
2:24:44opposing this revisionist line was
2:24:45hardly against bringing the masses
2:24:47forward in action the Bolsheviks
2:24:49constantly did so around major questions
2:24:52of All Sorts neither did lenon fail to
2:24:54see the Contra the connection between
2:24:55agitation and bringing the masses
2:24:57forward in action so there is a
2:24:59connection and here's what he says in
2:25:00what is to be done remember that's 1902
2:25:03that's very old as for calling the
2:25:05masses to action that will come of
2:25:08itself as soon as the as energetic
2:25:10potential agitation live and striking
2:25:12exposures come into play see the goal of
2:25:14agitation is to agitate you when you
2:25:16have enough energy built up then they'll
2:25:19use propaganda an agitation to direct
2:25:22you to catch some criminal red-handed is
2:25:25immediately to Brand him publicly in all
2:25:27places is of itself far more effective
2:25:31than any number of calls and lenon also
2:25:33called for organizing wide striking and
2:25:36Rapid exposures of all the shameful
2:25:38outrages when we do that and we must and
2:25:41can do it how many of our most popular
2:25:43accounts by the way just are Chronicles
2:25:46of Rapid exposures of the shame all the
2:25:48shameful outrages and were they made
2:25:51very big were they Amplified to large
2:25:54size uh did they provide a steady stream
2:25:57so that every time you opened your
2:25:59social media app they were at the top of
2:26:01your social media feed providing you
2:26:02with something that pissed you off I'm
2:26:05not saying that they were doing this
2:26:06intentionally I'm saying that they in
2:26:08fact were probably co-opted but we can
2:26:10think of several accounts that worked
2:26:11exactly that way that did nothing but
2:26:14promote imagery of stuff that just
2:26:17pisses you off all the
2:26:18time why striking rapid exposures of all
2:26:22the shameful outrages when we do that
2:26:25Lennon says and we must and can do it
2:26:27the most backwards worker will
2:26:29understand or will feel that the
2:26:31students and religious sects The
2:26:32Peasants and the authors are being
2:26:34abused and outraged by those same dark
2:26:36forces that are oppressing and crushing
2:26:38him at every step of his life feeling
2:26:40that he himself will be filled with an
2:26:42irresistible desire to react end quote
2:26:46so the goal of agitation is to create
2:26:50that feeling which will then be
2:26:52mobilized after it's brewed up big
2:26:54enough of course this does not mean that
2:26:57there will or should be a struggle
2:26:59around everything that is the subject of
2:27:01agitation that is not there there is not
2:27:04that kind of narrow onetoone relation
2:27:06between agitation and action but the
2:27:08overall effect of agitation will be a
2:27:10powerful force in compelling people to
2:27:12action often around a new question or
2:27:14outrage which is completely unrelated to
2:27:17the specific things exposed before you
2:27:19just need people worked up and then at
2:27:22the right moment when a particular event
2:27:24occurs you can direct them all in one
2:27:26particular direction get them worked up
2:27:27get them worked up about covid about
2:27:30being locked down get them worked up
2:27:31about racial disparities and all all
2:27:33this unfairness George Floyd dies and
2:27:35now it's defund the
2:27:36police see how that
2:27:39works of course the party must seek to
2:27:43concentrate on promoting such major
2:27:45struggles and its agitation must play a
2:27:47role in publicizing popularizing and
2:27:49organizing them
2:27:50there's there is a role for calls to
2:27:52action but they should not be confused
2:27:54with agitation which occupies an overall
2:27:57more important place than such calls to
2:28:01action agitation along with propaganda
2:28:03and struggle are dialectically
2:28:06related these people are true to their
2:28:08religion guys in fact as with any Unity
2:28:12of opposites each aspect can be
2:28:14transformed into the other agitation can
2:28:16be transformed into struggle and this is
2:28:19the this is the case in many examples
2:28:21which do not start out as a big struggle
2:28:23but develop into one after being the
2:28:24subject of repeated sharp exposures we
2:28:27could use the George Floyd example there
2:28:29too one after another Trayvon Martin
2:28:31Michael Brown biona Taylor Ahmed Arbury
2:28:34boom George
2:28:36Floyd also agitation itself can be a
2:28:38form of struggle lenon talks about how
2:28:41Factory exposures Declarations of War of
2:28:43A Sort can greatly raise the morale of
2:28:45workers and even cause the owners to
2:28:47give in quickly to some demands fearing
2:28:50consequences if they don't he speaks of
2:28:52how quote political exposures in
2:28:55themselves serve as a powerful
2:28:56instrument for disintegrating the system
2:28:58we oppose that's in what is to be
2:29:01done struggles can also be transformed
2:29:04into agitation take the example of a
2:29:06picket line basically it is a form of
2:29:08struggle but it contains agitation
2:29:11including slogans on the picket signs of
2:29:14course the picket signs themselves can
2:29:16be transformed into a form of struggle
2:29:18when appropriately used to knock some
2:29:20scab or cop upside the head and this in
2:29:23turn is a form of education for any
2:29:26fellow pigs and lowlife scabs in the
2:29:29vicinity the current struggle in Houston
2:29:32against police and National oppression
2:29:34is a recent example of the relation
2:29:36between agitation and struggle why did
2:29:38people erupt in the powerful Rebellion
2:29:41around Chinko de Mayo fundamentally it
2:29:43was a result of a police attack and the
2:29:46underlying hatred for the daily
2:29:48oppression of the Cho people people at
2:29:50the hands of the system to fail to see
2:29:53this and that such rebellions will
2:29:55continue to take place independent of
2:29:57any conscious communist activity would
2:29:59be to depart from the basic materialist
2:30:01understanding that oppression breeds
2:30:06resistance but from the point of view of
2:30:09advancing the struggle it would be an
2:30:10even more serious error to see to fail
2:30:13to see the relation between such
2:30:15resistance and the ongoing work of
2:30:17Communists so the Communists are going
2:30:19to co-opt any bad stuff that's going on
2:30:21right but not just a communist all
2:30:23people who are working through agitation
2:30:25to create this are going to co-opt any
2:30:27bad thing that happens so the woke right
2:30:31are going to wait until certain things
2:30:32happen and then they're going to push
2:30:33their woke Right theory into the into
2:30:35the space currently they're in a phase
2:30:37of doing a lot of agitation they want a
2:30:39lot of energy something will happen
2:30:41what's the something I don't know you
2:30:42don't know we don't know nobody knows
2:30:44they don't know probably but something
2:30:47will eventually occur into which they
2:30:49can pour that agitation and anger and
2:30:51take it in a particular direction your
2:30:53job between now and then is to start
2:30:55searching for within yourself to figure
2:30:57out if you've been agitated to where
2:30:59you're going to be able to be taken
2:31:00advantage of by this group whose how
2:31:03they can Channel it into anything is
2:31:04they're going to say this is what true
2:31:06conservatives do now this is what real
2:31:08Christians do now because this emergency
2:31:11occurred something has happened we must
2:31:13do something everybody's had enough
2:31:15we've all felt it and this is what the
2:31:16real Christians and real conservatives
2:31:18are going to do and everybody who isn't
2:31:19going with this on this isn't a real
2:31:21Christian or isn't a real conservative
2:31:22that's how they'll Channel all of that
2:31:24builtup agitation so you need to start
2:31:27dismantling the agitation that they've
2:31:28built up in
2:31:30you uh because they're going to co-opt
2:31:33everything that's what this article just
2:31:34now tells us the Communists or the the
2:31:36fascists sure whatever the same thing
2:31:38are going to co-opt this co-opt at any
2:31:41opportunity they have after they've
2:31:42built up lots of agitation energy that's
2:31:45what the this section was about before
2:31:47the Rebellion he says there had been
2:31:49months of persistent agitation and
2:31:51action by the party and other Mass
2:31:53organizations exposing and going
2:31:55straight up against the capitalists and
2:31:56cops around the murder of Joe Torres and
2:31:59combating all sorts of reformist deadend
2:32:01schemes Advanced as a solution to police
2:32:04Terror this has had a major effect
2:32:07especially in focusing the anger of the
2:32:10masses against the class enemy so it it
2:32:13it was no accident that when the people
2:32:15rebelled in the night of Cinco de Mayo
2:32:17many took up the slogan jorus Dead Cops
2:32:19go free that's what the rich called
2:32:20democracy as a battlecry against the
2:32:23murdering cops so it's exactly what I
2:32:25just described something will eventually
2:32:28happen like Cinco de Mayo and the
2:32:30agitation that was
2:32:32produced by the agitators in this case
2:32:35communist but it could be the woke right
2:32:36will be poured into a particular
2:32:38direction and I told you the vehicle at
2:32:40least that the woke right will use the
2:32:42woke left would say that you're not real
2:32:44progressives you don't really support
2:32:46black people you don't really think
2:32:47black lives matter or whatever else
2:32:49unless you do XYZ or you're
2:32:51participating in a trans genocide unless
2:32:54you do
2:32:56XYZ next section short it's called
2:32:58linked to the
2:32:59masses to play this to really play this
2:33:02kind of role in concentrating the deep
2:33:04feelings of the masses and raising their
2:33:06class Consciousness agitation must be
2:33:08revolutionary and powerful and the
2:33:11masses must feel it truly speaks for
2:33:14them so true conservatives true
2:33:17Christians true racial Justice Warriors
2:33:20whatever this kind of agitation is
2:33:23impossible without applying the mass
2:33:25line and without knowing the masses
2:33:26their experiences their feelings their
2:33:28language in short it is necessary to
2:33:31learn from the masses in order to
2:33:33educate them without this constant
2:33:35process agitation will become sterile
2:33:37and stereotyped learned from a formula
2:33:40instead of concentrated from real life
2:33:41this is just like Paulo Freddy's
2:33:43generative themes method so you could
2:33:45imagine that you're an organization like
2:33:46Turning Point Faith or that you're
2:33:48Church Network or whatever and you're
2:33:50going to have some various grievances so
2:33:53you can totally expect that agit prop
2:33:55people are going to be listening on the
2:33:57woke right would be listening to what
2:33:58kinds of issues that you have and their
2:34:01goal in their podcasts and their shows
2:34:03and whatever is going to be to speak
2:34:04into those and to agitate in other words
2:34:06to amplify so it's like if you have a
2:34:10grievance and you're like three out of
2:34:1110 annoyed by it and you're trying to
2:34:13figure out a solution their job is to
2:34:14make sure you don't have Solutions we
2:34:16already just heard that the proposed
2:34:18Solutions are no good and then to
2:34:19channel that energy from a three up to a
2:34:21five and then later from a five to a six
2:34:23and then from a six to an eight and then
2:34:25to wait for an event and then Channel
2:34:27and say everybody who's a real member of
2:34:29this or everybody who's a real Christian
2:34:30or whatever has to do X and anybody else
2:34:32is a traitor against us look at this
2:34:34this is an emergency we have to do this
2:34:36that's the vehicle that's how this all
2:34:38going to
2:34:39move but learning from the masses they
2:34:41tell he tells us or they tell us knowing
2:34:43them and knowing them well as ma puts it
2:34:45is not a question of individual
2:34:46self-cultivation rubbing elbows with the
2:34:48masses learning too involves agitation
2:34:52Lennon made this point for example when
2:34:53writing during an EB period about what
2:34:56kind of Investigation was needed to
2:34:58determine when uh a new rise of the
2:35:01Revolutionary tide was at hand while
2:35:04pointing to the need for a detailed
2:35:06study and Analysis of Russia's economic
2:35:08crisis he stressed that it was not
2:35:09enough quote if the general groundwork
2:35:12exists do is not permit us to conclude
2:35:15whether the the depression will for a
2:35:16Time the mass struggle of the
2:35:18workers in general or whether at a
2:35:20certain stage of events the C the same
2:35:22depression will not push new masses and
2:35:24fresh forces into the political struggle
2:35:26to answer such a question there is only
2:35:28one way to keep a careful finger on the
2:35:30pulse of the country's whole political
2:35:32life and especially the state of the
2:35:34movement and the mood of the mass of the
2:35:36proletariat end quote in the same
2:35:39article we're told Lenin insists that
2:35:42that the key to this was to quote
2:35:44multiply tenfold or agitation among the
2:35:46mass of the proletariat so that's how
2:35:48you keep your finger on the calls is you
2:35:50poke it you poke them you agitate see
2:35:53how they respond and then you take what
2:35:55you get and you amplify it his
2:35:56conclusion was quote only agitation can
2:35:59reveal on a broad scale the real State
2:36:01of Mind of the masses only agitation can
2:36:04make for close cooperation between the
2:36:06party and the whole working class only
2:36:08making use for the purposes of political
2:36:11agitation of every strike of every
2:36:13important event or issue in the working
2:36:15class life of all conflicts within the
2:36:18ruling classes or between one section of
2:36:20those classes or another and the
2:36:22autocracy of every speech by a Social
2:36:24Democrat or communist in the Duma and of
2:36:27every new expression of the
2:36:29counterrevolutionary party of the
2:36:31government Etc only only work like this
2:36:34can once again close the ranks of the
2:36:36Revolutionary proletariat and provide
2:36:39accurate material for judging the speed
2:36:41with which conditions for a new and more
2:36:44decisive battle is coming to aead and
2:36:48the article this is from is called the
2:36:49assessment of the pre present situation
2:36:52that's by
2:36:54Lenin so the central role of agitation
2:36:57then they come
2:36:59to all of this he says underscores and
2:37:02gives broader Dimension to the overall
2:37:03importance of agitation in fact for
2:37:06Communists a agitation is key in giving
2:37:09revolutionary political identity to
2:37:10their work so I ask you pause I ask you
2:37:15why do so many of these entities that
2:37:17were that are pushing woke right
2:37:20activities and beliefs use agitation why
2:37:23do they use this leftist method that is
2:37:26key in giving a revolutionary political
2:37:27identity to
2:37:29Communists because they're running the
2:37:31same kind of program hence justifying
2:37:33calling them woke right it's part of the
2:37:35Tactical
2:37:36guide agitation should be the glue
2:37:38holding all communist political work
2:37:41together does this mean the party should
2:37:43be a propaganda sect or an agitation
2:37:45sect no it shouldn't be any kind of sect
2:37:49but the part party collectively and
2:37:50comrades individually should be in
2:37:52Lenin's phrase tribunes of the people
2:37:54and agitation is Central to that this
2:37:58brings us back from a different angle to
2:38:00the statement by lennin quoted earlier
2:38:03in the article that quote in no way
2:38:05except by means of such exposures can
2:38:07the masses be trained in political
2:38:08Consciousness and revolutionary
2:38:10activity even though this in the even
2:38:13though in the same passage Lenin was
2:38:15combating the revisionist Martin off's
2:38:17theory of quote raising the AC it of the
2:38:20working masses Lenin is not arguing
2:38:23against the principled and divisive role
2:38:25of struggle including the fact that
2:38:27people can learn more in the course of
2:38:29struggle especially Broad in
2:38:31Revolutionary struggle than by being
2:38:34told but lenon is arguing against a
2:38:36narrow conception of Communists tasks
2:38:40and a line of bowing to and tailing
2:38:42after spontaneous
2:38:44struggle people need their own
2:38:47experience but their own experience
2:38:49experience and even the most correct
2:38:51summation of their own experience will
2:38:52never reveal to them what they need to
2:38:55know to make Revolution these points
2:38:57were dealt with at length in the article
2:38:59sharpen weapon of the party press in
2:39:02Revolution June
2:39:041978 but it should be pointed out again
2:39:06that it is impossible to do
2:39:08revolutionary work in today's
2:39:10non-revolutionary situation to that's
2:39:12what actually Soros says too by the way
2:39:15Soros says that you can only make
2:39:17massive social change in the of a
2:39:19reflexive situation in which there is a
2:39:22wide gap between what is believed and
2:39:23what is actually true so that's what he
2:39:26says are these revolutionary situations
2:39:27and he says that you cannot do
2:39:29revolution in a non-revolutionary
2:39:30situation but you can create the
2:39:32Revolutionary situation how well he says
2:39:35reflexivity but the answer is agit prop
2:39:37it's in fact agitation and propaganda
2:39:39and so um pointed out that it's
2:39:43impossible to do revolutionary work in
2:39:44today's non-revolutionary situation to
2:39:46strain at the limits of the objective
2:39:48situation simply by building the
2:39:49struggles that are going on today or
2:39:52merely even mainly doing agitation and
2:39:55propaganda directly in relation to them
2:39:57see you got to build the Revolutionary
2:39:59potential by doing agit prop all around
2:40:01revolutionary work is impossible without
2:40:03maximizing the role of revolutionary
2:40:05agitation and propaganda in relation to
2:40:07every sort of event in society so you've
2:40:09got to heat Society up you got to get it
2:40:11boiling you got to get all that energy
2:40:14built up in agitation and then you
2:40:15either
2:40:16manufacture or wait for a key event
2:40:19manufactured is what we call a false
2:40:22flag like um Crystal knocked in Nazi
2:40:25Germany to use an example back from that
2:40:27part of this podcast uh or j6 and so
2:40:31you're going to you're going to create a
2:40:34false flag environment or you're going
2:40:35to wait till something organic happens
2:40:37like George Floyd being on video like
2:40:40that and then you're going to push the
2:40:42line hard and you're going to use all
2:40:44that boiled up agitation to create
2:40:46Revolution all this he says becomes
2:40:48clearer still we grasp that in today's
2:40:51situation communist work is Preparatory
2:40:53work woke right work is Preparatory work
2:40:56building up strength for the
2:40:58Revolutionary Showdown that lies ahead
2:41:00in the future in a revolutionary
2:41:02situation agitation will play a role on
2:41:04an even greater scale it will be crucial
2:41:07in reaching broad sections of the masses
2:41:09rousing their energy heroism and
2:41:12enthusiasm and focusing their efforts on
2:41:14the most important tasks of the hour as
2:41:16the situation develops through intense
2:41:18and Rapid twist and turns today the work
2:41:21is Preparatory in a different and more
2:41:23long-term sense in combating narrow
2:41:26views of such preparation lennin said we
2:41:30ask our economists what do they mean by
2:41:33the Gathering of the working class
2:41:36strength for the struggle it is not is
2:41:38it not evident that this means the
2:41:41political training of the workers so
2:41:43that all the aspects of our vile
2:41:45autocracy are revealed to them and he
2:41:48said that in what is to be done this
2:41:50kind he the the article says this kind
2:41:52of all around work is impossible without
2:41:54broad revolutionary agitation only after
2:41:58all that does because this is an article
2:42:00about agit prop about agitation and
2:42:02propaganda only after all that does he
2:42:04turn to
2:42:05propaganda grasping today's period is
2:42:07one of preparation also sheds light on
2:42:09the role and importance of propaganda
2:42:12today whether in the form of carrying
2:42:14out exposures analyzing developments in
2:42:16the various movements or society as a
2:42:18whole of directly propagating Marxism
2:42:21propaganda is at all times a crucial
2:42:24part of the struggle against the
2:42:25Bourgeois and its grip on the masses
2:42:28there are many questions and topical
2:42:30issues that demand more thoroughgoing
2:42:32illumination that only propaganda can
2:42:34provide today for example such questions
2:42:37as by America Bui like by American uh
2:42:43purchase American products or whatever
2:42:44made in America immigration and illegals
2:42:47and inflation to name a few are on the
2:42:50minds of many and are the constant
2:42:52subject of reactionary propaganda by the
2:42:54bis notice the Communist tendency here
2:42:57is that everything is propaganda so they
2:42:59have to propagandize too right so when
2:43:01you put out information it's propaganda
2:43:03by the burgeois and when they decide to
2:43:05be lunatics it's their own propaganda
2:43:07and they're Justified because all
2:43:08communication really is propaganda
2:43:10that's how they always think well each
2:43:12of these questions and many others must
2:43:13be the subject of agitation such
2:43:15questions also clearly demand to be
2:43:17taken up by Propaganda in this way the
2:43:20reactionary theories and explanations of
2:43:22the Bourgeois can be dissected the root
2:43:25of these questions in capitalist Society
2:43:27can be traced and their links to the
2:43:29present imperialist crisis and the need
2:43:32for socialist Revolution can be shown in
2:43:34an all-around
2:43:35way but today there's a more General
2:43:38reason for giving special attention to
2:43:40propaganda though agitation should now
2:43:42play a more Central role in the party's
2:43:44work because this is a period of
2:43:46preparation and not a period in which
2:43:48giant for forces are being drawn around
2:43:50and into the party it is a period in
2:43:52which special effort can and must be
2:43:54made in training the advanced forces
2:43:57including training them in the science
2:43:58of Marxism leninism and the line of the
2:44:02party this requires a leap in
2:44:04understanding and then this leap
2:44:05propaganda plays the key part this does
2:44:08not mean that the training the ADV um
2:44:11this does not mean that training the
2:44:12advanced can be isolated from Mass
2:44:15struggle or from the tasks of doing all
2:44:17round exposure of the system mainly
2:44:19through agitation and raising the
2:44:21general level of the consciousness of
2:44:23the masses it cannot but exactly because
2:44:26propaganda which includes spreading the
2:44:27science of Marxism leninism and maong
2:44:30thought involves so many ideas and so
2:44:32many uh and more thoroughly goes into
2:44:35the basic questions such as the
2:44:37inevitability of Crisis and the laws of
2:44:39imperialism it plays the decisive part
2:44:42in enabling people to get a clear grasp
2:44:44of the stand Outlook and method of
2:44:46Marxism so what do we have here in the
2:44:49language of the cult dynamics of
2:44:50wokeness that I've talked about in the
2:44:52past you have that agitation is
2:44:55primarily for the large body of outer
2:44:57School members and potential new
2:44:59recruits that aren't part of the program
2:45:01in order to Rouse their emotions and get
2:45:02them to do something that's the
2:45:04masses meanwhile propaganda unlike
2:45:08agitation is mostly meant to ref to
2:45:12bring people into the inner school and
2:45:14to refine inner School belief to
2:45:16increase their ability so that's what I
2:45:18said earlier that uh going out in the
2:45:21street and screaming black lives matter
2:45:22was the agitation and the propaganda was
2:45:25the Dei training that you had to go to
2:45:27at work as a result of that uh that
2:45:31that's the difference that's being
2:45:32presented here but in the language of
2:45:34the cult propaganda is for the inner
2:45:36school and to bring people into the
2:45:39inner school who are ready and agitation
2:45:41is for the outer school or the
2:45:44masses so this does not imply propaganda
2:45:47is so let's pause for second to talk
2:45:49about that forther woke right right so
2:45:51their propaganda are their articles
2:45:53talking these long boring stupid
2:45:54articles talking about elite theory or
2:45:57talking about um the friend enemy
2:46:01distinction or any of the stupid
2:46:02philosophy that they're all into the
2:46:04fascist stuff that they're all into
2:46:06maybe it's the long boring articles
2:46:08about um what else do they talk about
2:46:10the post-war consensus and all this
2:46:13nonsense that's for the people who are
2:46:15already initiated that's for the inner
2:46:16school and for the people who are kind
2:46:18of simp sympathetic who are ready to
2:46:19cross over right that's for those those
2:46:22people that are on the cusp of outer
2:46:23school to Inner school they're going
2:46:25from uh initiate to acolyte right
2:46:28they're really becoming woke right so to
2:46:31speak meanwhile all of the it's
2:46:34anti-white racism look at all these Jews
2:46:36that's agitation and that's meant to
2:46:38provoke people who are just kind of
2:46:40lightly coming across this they're not
2:46:43really into the woke right stuff all the
2:46:45way but they're being drawn into it so
2:46:48that's the the parallel there agitation
2:46:51versus propaganda in the woke right
2:46:53context this does not imply propaganda
2:46:57this is we're back at the article this
2:46:59does not imply propaganda is only for
2:47:01the advanced and agitation is for the
2:47:02broad masses so he's going to Nuance
2:47:05what I just actually articulated for one
2:47:07thing even though propaganda will as
2:47:09lenon put it be understood as an
2:47:11integral whole only by a comparatively
2:47:14few persons it will be understood in
2:47:17part by quite a few more so this is
2:47:19where I'm talking about that boundary
2:47:20between the outer school and inner
2:47:22School how you're going to cross over
2:47:24from being one of the agitated masses
2:47:26activated masses and move into being one
2:47:29of the acolytes who's bought into the
2:47:31philosophy propaganda is going to help
2:47:33facilitate that you're actually if
2:47:35you're at that high end of agitation
2:47:37you're probably a prime target for
2:47:40receiving propaganda to be brought into
2:47:42the cult propaganda and agitation it
2:47:45says must be closely linked not falsely
2:47:48separated
2:47:49so that makes sense because it's one
2:47:51giant cult with different layers Lenin
2:47:53argued against the view quote that a
2:47:55worker's newspaper should devote its
2:47:56Pages exclusively to matters that
2:47:59immediately and directly concern the
2:48:00spontaneous workingclass movement and
2:48:02leave everything pertaining to the
2:48:04theory of socialism science politics
2:48:06questions of party organization Etc to a
2:48:09periodical for the
2:48:11intelligencia on the contrary it is
2:48:14necessary to combine all the concrete
2:48:16facts and manifestations of the
2:48:17workingclass movement with the indicated
2:48:19questions the light of theory must be
2:48:22cast upon every separate fact propaganda
2:48:25on the questions of politics and party
2:48:28organization must be carried on among
2:48:31the broad masses of the working class
2:48:33and these questions must be dealt with
2:48:35in the work of agitation end quote
2:48:38that's from draft of a declaration of
2:48:40the editorial board of isra and
2:48:45zarya of course they tell us Lenin did
2:48:47not mush everything together and made
2:48:49distinctions according to the needs of
2:48:51the struggle and of different sections
2:48:53both in regard to class composition and
2:48:55political understanding of the masses
2:48:58the Declaration quoted above was in fact
2:49:00introducing two Publications one of
2:49:03which he said should serve mainly for
2:49:05propaganda and the other mainly for
2:49:08agitation I think that my inner School
2:49:10outer school thing makes it a lot more
2:49:12clear especially that there must be a
2:49:14transitionary period where you go from
2:49:16being outer school like your caught up
2:49:19in it but you're not you don't really
2:49:21you haven't really like bought it all
2:49:22the way you haven't tipped over and then
2:49:24on the inner school you're all the way
2:49:25in you you've committed to the theory
2:49:27right propaganda is going to be one of
2:49:29the primary bridges for that agitations
2:49:32like putting fuel in the tank and uh
2:49:35taking Aderall I guess is really a
2:49:37better way to put it it's like taking an
2:49:38amphetamine and then propaganda is like
2:49:41doing the study that's going to pull you
2:49:43into the
2:49:45cult it goes on today our party also
2:49:47publishes various kinds of literature
2:49:49including different periodicals
2:49:50Revolution the organ of our party
2:49:52Central Committee contains chiefly
2:49:55propaganda its main audience is Advanced
2:49:58Workers Party supporters and other
2:50:00revolutionary minded people as well as
2:50:02party members and it seeks especially to
2:50:06answer the questions most decisive for
2:50:08them in organizing the party's work the
2:50:11worker newspapers on the other hand
2:50:13reach a broader audience their overall
2:50:15role is political exposure and they
2:50:17contain mainly
2:50:19agitational articles along with some
2:50:21important propaganda this is not a
2:50:23matter of division between talking down
2:50:25in high futin academics it is aimed at
2:50:28moving struggle and conclusions or sorry
2:50:30struggle and Consciousness forward ma
2:50:33also said the kadras are are the
2:50:37advanced elements of the masses and
2:50:40generally have received more education
2:50:42literature and art of a higher level are
2:50:44entirely necessary for them to ignore
2:50:47this would be a mistake this was from
2:50:48his talks at The yanan Forum on
2:50:50literature and
2:50:52art by arming the masses with an
2:50:55understanding of the basis basic events
2:50:57in society and the party's actions and
2:50:59by arming them with a scientific Outlook
2:51:02that means Marxism by the way propaganda
2:51:05plays an important role the party cannot
2:51:07adopt the view that Revolution will be
2:51:09made by a conscious party leading the
2:51:12blind masses and struggle against the
2:51:15repression this is nothing but the
2:51:16heroes make history line through the
2:51:19work of the party both learning and
2:51:21leading and together with the
2:51:22development of the objective situation
2:51:24larger and larger sections of the masses
2:51:26must become increasingly class
2:51:28Consciousness and armed with
2:51:30revolutionary science AKA being the
2:51:33cult this is certainly important to
2:51:36stress in the US today this is so
2:51:38because of uh both because of the
2:51:40influence of revisionism internationally
2:51:42and because of the strong pull of
2:51:44pragmatism historically in this country
2:51:46quote never mind the reasons if it Works
2:51:49do it this leads to a weakening of
2:51:51marxist propaganda and a downplaying of
2:51:54theoretical
2:51:55work which provides the underpinning in
2:51:58which and much material for both
2:51:59propaganda and agitation there can be no
2:52:02revolutionary party that does not make a
2:52:04radical rupture in theory and practice
2:52:06with this whole
2:52:08approach one reflection of this thinking
2:52:11we're very near the end now which has
2:52:13found its way into our own ranks
2:52:14especially with the right idealism and
2:52:16economism of The Departed menix is the
2:52:20downplaying of the importance of
2:52:21propagandizing among the broad masses
2:52:24against the influence of opportunist
2:52:26lines while it is true that no
2:52:29opportunist group exerts wide influence
2:52:31among the masses at this time it would
2:52:33be a dumb joke to think we live in a
2:52:36vacuum which contains only the party the
2:52:38masses and the burgeois it would be an
2:52:41even more be even more foolish to think
2:52:43that in the minds of the masses the
2:52:44Revolutionary Communist party is the
2:52:47first and only group they ever heard of
2:52:49that calls itself revolutionary
2:52:51especially those workers who are most
2:52:53Awakening to political life are likely
2:52:55to be aware aware of or even influenced
2:52:58by several different groups including
2:53:01opportunists but if correctly understood
2:53:03and acted upon this can be turned from a
2:53:06bad thing into a good thing Marxism and
2:53:08an understanding of Marxism develops and
2:53:10struggle against bgea Society including
2:53:12phony Marxism and other opportunism
2:53:15sounds like a
2:53:16religion and the and the Viewpoint and
2:53:19interests of the proletariat become
2:53:21clearer in contrast to the Views and
2:53:23interests of other classes when
2:53:25propaganda is developed that exposes
2:53:27opportunist lines in their class basis
2:53:30this struggle between Marxism and
2:53:32opportunism can greatly raise the class
2:53:34consciousness of advanced workers and
2:53:36bring them closer to the party not going
2:53:38to dwell cuz I don't want to drag this
2:53:40out and it's not that important but for
2:53:41whatever it's worth the Communists of
2:53:44strict obedience as these people would
2:53:45be considered would definitely consider
2:53:48all the woke stuff as opportunists now
2:53:51that it didn't work if it worked they
2:53:53totally would have claimed it but it
2:53:54didn't work and now it's looking bad and
2:53:56it was a bunch of corporate people and
2:53:58Banks and politicians so now they're
2:54:00going to claim that it was
2:54:01opportunism and that's why it failed it
2:54:03was because it was opportunist it's and
2:54:05not real Marxism and we might see this
2:54:07turn I don't know the left is pretty
2:54:09brain dead right now but we might see
2:54:11this turn toward a more uh classically
2:54:14materialist Marxism coming from them
2:54:17it's not entirely clear here two
2:54:20paragraphs
2:54:22remaining propaganda and agitation must
2:54:24today be closely linked together and
2:54:26expanded in their scope in order for the
2:54:28party to truly meet its responsibilities
2:54:29to the struggle and those
2:54:31responsibilities are great in expanding
2:54:33both in uniting with in developing
2:54:35today's movement and in safeguarding the
2:54:37future upholding the Revolutionary
2:54:39interests of the working class sorry
2:54:40this last part's not that exciting or or
2:54:42pertinent revolutionary a sorry this
2:54:46sentences though revolutionary ad ation
2:54:48and propaganda are weapons of a special
2:54:50sort that's exactly what Hitler said too
2:54:53they are weapons and smashing the chains
2:54:55of the pessimistic revisionist view
2:54:56described by Lenin as quote that
2:54:58struggle is desirable which is possible
2:55:01and the struggle which is possible is
2:55:02that which is going on at the present
2:55:04moment end quote from what is to be done
2:55:07they enable the party to relate closely
2:55:10to today's key events of society and to
2:55:13present the level of struggle uh sorry
2:55:16and present level of struggle without
2:55:17being chained to this level without
2:55:19revolving everything around it they are
2:55:21key in enabling the party to awaken
2:55:23stimulate and Inspire the exploited and
2:55:25oppressed who are hungry for a new way
2:55:27out of this torment of capitalism
2:55:30agitation and propaganda are vital in
2:55:33the nourishing in nourishing the seeds
2:55:35of the future in the mo in the movement
2:55:38of today so that is um this article from
2:55:42I think it was from Revolution which is
2:55:44obviously uh their propaganda magazine
2:55:48newspaper that they were publishing the
2:55:49Communist party was publishing this was
2:55:51from December 1978 it's volume 3 number
2:55:5415 if anybody wants to look it up on the
2:55:55role of agitation and propaganda I
2:55:58wanted to read it to you in full even
2:55:59though some of it was tedious and kind
2:56:01of um off the what seems like it's off
2:56:04the topic because I want you to
2:56:05understand again we live in this very
2:56:07propaganda Rich environment we live in a
2:56:09propaganda saturated environment we live
2:56:11in a propaganda battle space we do not
2:56:14have the opportunity if Jackal is right
2:56:17to escape that battle space that we must
2:56:21therefore adjust ourselves to the battle
2:56:23space and I think that the only way we
2:56:25can adjust ourselves to that battle
2:56:27space is by learning how propaganda and
2:56:30agitation work learning how they affect
2:56:33us what their purposes are so this was a
2:56:35very long podcast about the issue but it
2:56:38actually shows you that the point of the
2:56:40propaganda is to educate the leadership
2:56:43class in the cult doctrine of the um
2:56:47totalitarian program whereas agitation
2:56:50is designed instead to arouse anger
2:56:54arouse emotions arouse excitement arouse
2:56:57energy that can and will be directed
2:57:00later through further agitation and
2:57:02propaganda to achieve the agenda and
2:57:06aims and goals of the totalitarian party
2:57:10so I hope that this is helpful and
2:57:11clarifying I know it's very long and
2:57:13some of it was very tedious but
2:57:15propaganda is a weapon it is a weapon
2:57:17that takes place in a psychological
2:57:19warfare battle space that psychological
2:57:21warfare battle space is intrinsically
2:57:23tied to the technological environment
2:57:26that we live in the world that we live
2:57:28in today you cannot escape this so you
2:57:31therefore must prepare for it I would
2:57:33encourage you to start looking to see
2:57:36are you dealing with agit prop agitation
2:57:39and propaganda in particular the
2:57:41agitating part and look for ways that
2:57:44you can start to tell is this meant to
2:57:46manipulate emotions is this telling a
2:57:48one-sided biased line like a kind of a
2:57:51drum beat that repeats and repeats and
2:57:53repeats is this targeting a low
2:57:55information low engagement sector with
2:57:58the intention of getting their emotions
2:58:00up and then learning not just to step
2:58:02back from it for yourself and get that
2:58:04out of you so that you're not going to
2:58:06be a willing tool when the moment arises
2:58:09for the mass line but rather also that
2:58:13you are able to help other people see
2:58:15that this is the kind of manipulation
2:58:17that we're dealing with with because the
2:58:19fewer people that participate in a
2:58:21reflexive environment when that
2:58:23reflexive environment launches the
2:58:24weaker it is the less likely the
2:58:26reflexive campaign will succeed the way
2:58:28that you diffuse a reflexive campaign or
2:58:31what we might call a scops today
2:58:33agitation and propaganda scops the way
2:58:36that you diffuse that is by getting as
2:58:39many people to realize that it is a
2:58:40bogus manipulation with an agenda-driven
2:58:42end as possible the more clearly you can
2:58:45articulate how it's built up your
2:58:46emotions how it's been manipulating your
2:58:48emotions especially that tool all true
2:58:51progressives all true leftists all true
2:58:53Americans all true conservatives all
2:58:55true Christians are going to think this
2:58:57way now because it's an emergency the
2:59:00more you can take away the emotional and
2:59:03the tribal impulse that pushes people
2:59:06into that channeling and that reflexive
2:59:07moment the less likely their next agenda
2:59:10item whether it's Trump derangement
2:59:11whether it's covid-19 or whether it's
2:59:14the ripping in half of Maga through the
2:59:16woke right the less likely that is to
2:59:18succeed and so I hope that this has been
2:59:20really enlightening it's been actually
2:59:22enlightening for me to go through all
2:59:23this in one long piece I've been reading
2:59:25this stuff for weeks um so thank you for
2:59:27joining me and I will bring you a
2:59:29shorter episode next time
2:59:33[Music]
2:59:40[Applause]
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