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0:00You you you say that.
0:01No, you say the word the
0:02African-American culture. What is it?
0:05Okay, fine.
0:06>> Like like hip hop, not hip hop. I mean,
0:09I don't want to
0:11Yes, I feel like
0:12>> You haven't thought about it. It's fine.
0:14Don't make things up. I'm not making it
0:16up. I feel like
0:17>> me. You feel.
0:19You should know. You were born and
0:21raised here. Bring it down, Smith. Um
0:23bring it down.
0:25Do you stand by that, Frank Zano?
0:28Yeah. We're ready.
0:30We're prepared. Do not give in to fear.
0:34We are fearless.
0:36This is not the time to be afraid. This
0:39is a time to stand up and fight back.
0:42And to resist any temptation for them to
0:44divide us.
0:46We're in this together. The rule OF LAW
0:48IS ON OUR SIDE. WE WILL NOT give in, not
0:52give up, WE WILL NOT CAPITULATE, WE WILL
0:54NOT BOW, WE WILL NOT BEND, WE WILL
0:58SURVIVE.
1:01BUT I brought you here because of a
1:02comment you made, and I'm I'm sure it
1:04was taken out of context. So, I want to
1:06give you an opportunity to talk about
1:08it, and I want to play a clip from that
1:11interview, that discussion you had. Play
1:13it, Smith.
1:14African-Americans in this country are
1:16the only groups they have no culture.
1:18It depend on who you meet, where you
1:20meet them.
1:21But currently, there's not an
1:22African-American culture? No.
1:25Yes, there is.
1:26>> What is it?
1:28Um
1:29>> Name two value systems in the
1:30African-American culture.
1:32Value systems?
1:33>> Name Yes.
1:34Name two taboos in the African-American
1:36cultural system.
1:38Name two traditions, by the way, in the
1:39African-American cultural system.
1:42There is no value
1:44for freedom if you don't understand what
1:46it is.
1:47The concept of free You have to have a
1:50foundation on which it would balance
1:52when you ask for it. Civil right, they
1:54give it to you. You have no culture.
1:57Nancy, you've been here, born here. Why
1:59would you be surprised if I say
2:01African-Americans don't have a culture?
2:03For twerking?
2:04So, anything
2:05>> We may but I feel like African-American
2:07culture has definitely You you you say
2:11that.
2:11No, you say the word the
2:13African-American culture. What is it?
2:16Okay, fine.
2:17>> Like like hip hop, not hip hop. I mean,
2:20I don't want to
2:21Yes, I feel like
2:23>> thought about it. It's fine. Don't make
2:24things up. I'm not making it up. I feel
2:27like
2:28>> me. You feel.
2:30You should know. You were born and
2:31raised here. Bring it down, Smith. Um
2:33bring it down.
2:35Do you stand by that, Frank Zano?
2:38Yeah.
2:40Okay. And you're talking to somebody
2:42who's not African-American and asking
2:43her questions.
2:45You have a problem with that? You don't
2:46think that that was a little So,
2:49that conversation
2:51was the Haitian conversation.
2:54So, it was
2:55>> said African-American. You brought You
2:57brought black people in. You You didn't
2:58say Haitians.
2:59No, I'm saying the conversation I had
3:01with Nancy
3:02was Haitians can fix Haiti. It was in
3:05that conversation that this came up, and
3:07it was
3:08a sound bite on Tik Tok. Now, when the I
3:11went to the W.E.B. Du Bois Center in
3:14Ghana,
3:15uh I was a young fellow when first we
3:18went, and there was a sign on the wall,
3:20big one. I don't know, maybe a poet who
3:22wrote it, maybe Langston Hughes or
3:24something. I forgot. But they had it on
3:26the wall, and it said,
3:28"The problem and the pain of slavery was
3:31not the work they make us do.
3:34It is the fact that it took away our
3:36language, our culture, our history, our
3:39traditions.
3:40And that leaves a man like a tree with
3:42no roots." And he hit me. I wrote it
3:45down in my notebook.
3:47Now, when you
3:48you listen to a lot of the writings
3:51about slavery, the first thing you hear,
3:54even in the United States, is about how
3:56our life, our culture, our language, and
3:59history was taken away from us.
4:02Mhm. That is very common. So, so what
4:06Okay. Okay.
4:10I met Alex Haley's I'm Hold on.
4:13You're from Benin.
4:15Yeah. You're not You're not there now,
4:16you're here. You're an American citizen.
4:18You came here, you left there
4:20to come here. Mhm.
4:24The Homie Kingdom We We love the Black
4:26Panther and all of this, and the the
4:28Dora Milaje based on the the Homie
4:30warriors, and Woman King, we love that.
4:33Um
4:35But the the Homie Kingdom
4:37one of the ways in which
4:40your
4:41origin your country of origin, Benin,
4:45conquered,
4:46they would sell their
4:48people into bondage to the Europeans
4:51into this transatlantic transatlantic
4:53slave trade when you lost. When you
4:56lost, you got sold. And
5:00every year every year, you got 333,000
5:03lb sterling
5:05for bodies for black bodies to be sold
5:07into the transatlantic slave trade,
5:09which would be worth about 16.7 million
5:11dollars annually every single year. It
5:14was Benin, known as the Slave Coast,
5:17because of the flourishing trade of
5:19human bodies. That was your protocol.
5:22That was the way in which you dominated.
5:25And it went on for more than a decade,
5:27in the 1780s to '90s. Benin sold more
5:29than 102,000 bodies into bondage.
5:34So, epigenetically, one could argue,
5:36Frank Zano, that
5:38part of your way of knowing is to sell
5:41out your people. One could argue that.
5:44Maybe that's in your epigenetics,
5:46because to me, to say something so
5:48boldly
5:49that black people have no culture
5:52with no references, and you're talking
5:53to somebody that's not black, you're
5:55talking to somebody who clearly wasn't
5:56educated enough, you're throwing
5:58questions at her, you know, give us two
6:00things, two two values.
6:03Well, I can give you 15. I'mma give you
6:05more, but family and integrity.
6:08And we don't really do well with
6:10sellouts. That's another black cultural
6:13value. But I was looking at that, and I
6:15was saying, "Wow." And And you stand by
6:17it. So, you still stand by black people
6:18have no culture? So, Benin didn't sell
6:22slaves.
6:23>> They sold I I did my research. I'm
6:25sorry. Maybe you don't know it, because
6:28it's clear to me that you don't know a
6:30lot of things. But you don't know it.
6:32>> Allow me to explain what I mean.
6:35Please. I really want to have a very
6:38respectful conversation.
6:40So, you said Benin sold. Benin did not
6:44sell slaves, because when slaves were
6:46bought from that region, there was no
6:48Benin. There was no country called
6:50Benin.
6:50>> Dahomey.
6:51No. No. Okay. Well, whoever This is the
6:54same landmass, correct? Same people? No,
6:58at all. They have nothing in common.
7:00Please, allow me.
7:02The place that became called Dahomey
7:08was at independence.
7:13The place you're calling Benin
7:15was not there. Dahomey was not there
7:18during slavery.
7:20What was there were tribes. Abomey, the
7:24women warriors you mentioned, they are
7:26not from Dahomey or from Benin. They are
7:29from only one tribe called the Abomey
7:31tribe.
7:35That region had about 52
7:38different distinct tribes.
7:42Only one of them
7:45captured slaves from either the Aja, the
7:49Yoruba, the Bariba, or the Nagongo areas
7:52and sold. They didn't sell their people.
7:56An example, if there is a war in, let's
7:59say, Asia or in Europe,
8:01Italians captured Portuguese or Spanish
8:04and English and sold them to the
8:06Chinese. They haven't sold their own
8:08people, even though they are Caucasians
8:10who live in the region. So, the slaves
8:13sold were only sold by Abomey tribe.
8:17>> Right. Right. Way before it became
8:20Dahomey as a republic that forced 52
8:24different tribes to come together by the
8:27French and call the place Dahomey. The
8:30people, the other 51 tribes that are now
8:34part of the country called Benin,
8:36including Abomey,
8:39they all, including my father's tribe,
8:41we hate the Abomeys, because we know
8:44they capture people and they sell them.
8:47So, that is a correction I want to make.
8:48So, saying Benin
8:49>> but you you're actually making my point
8:51that
8:53it is that notion that somehow you are
8:55not part of when we talk when I talk
8:57about black culture, it is the oneness.
8:59It is the understanding that we may be
9:01something torn and new, but we are in
9:03this thing together that God has got to
9:06begin with, that got you got to begin
9:08with. And for you to come here and and
9:10to make that somehow we don't have
9:12culture because of your lack of
9:13knowledge of what culture is.
9:15>> What I'm saying the science says buy
9:17slaves, the danger of buying slaves is
9:20you rob them of their culture. That is,
9:23of course, a fact you know. Okay. I'm
9:25going to bring in cuz I'm I'm very clear
9:27that I'm not a historian. So, I'm not
9:29going to speak on things I do not know.
9:32I'm going to invite everybody who is not
9:34a historian. If you read some things or
9:36you went down a YouTube rabbit hole, you
9:38are not an expert. You have not lived
9:40your life studying this. And I'm going
9:42to invite you to stop talking about
9:43things you don't know. But in the
9:45meantime, I'm going to also
9:46>> You haven't said something I don't know.
9:48That's the point. What is it I don't
9:50know? That black people don't have
9:52culture. You believe that black people
9:53don't have culture.
9:54>> you to explain to me if it
9:57if it if it protected you from your
9:59>> original habitat and they took
10:02everything away from you.
10:05What is wrong to say these people's
10:08culture have been taken away from them?
10:10Mhm.
10:11I don't understand.
10:12>> It's Okay, well I'm going to I'm going
10:14to actually bring somebody in who knows
10:17more about this than I do, who studies
10:19Africa, who studies black history, who
10:21teaches at Clark Atlanta. So we're going
10:23to bring in Dr. Daniel Black when we
10:24come back. Frank Zana was here. Um he's
10:28made a statement before the break uh
10:30and quoting W.E.B. Du Bois whose
10:34uh he has a whole center in Ghana in
10:36Accra. There was a quote there that you
10:38quoted and you went on a talk show or
10:41you were on your own show, you invited
10:43somebody on and you said black people
10:44have no culture. And I asked you, do you
10:46stand by that and you said yes because
10:48of that quote. So I thought it would be
10:50great to have somebody who actually
10:51teaches this
10:52to come on and inform all of us why that
10:56is
10:57I called I called I said you were wrong,
10:59but you know, this is your view and your
11:01view can't be wrong, but why it's
11:03uh
11:04not helpful. Let's say let's say it like
11:07that, it's not helpful. So let me
11:08welcome professor of Africana studies at
11:12Clark Atlanta in Atlanta
11:15author of many books, Dr. Daniel Black
11:17is here. Hi.
11:23Uh-oh, your your internet. Look at God.
11:26Go ahead. Wait a minute. Yeah, uh
11:27brother Frank, how are you up my
11:29brother? Doing very well, thank you.
11:31Good, very good. I first want to say
11:34that uh I am on here to um
11:37to enjoy a beautiful exchange. I'm I am
11:40not at all on here to um to attack or to
11:44or to um to in in any way uh incite
11:48rebellion, you know, um I I certainly
11:51believe in in communication as Karen
11:54does. I certainly believe in truth like
11:56all three of us do. And you know, we all
11:58believe in integrity. And I think that I
12:02think it could be helpful if I can just
12:03offer this possibility, right? I think
12:05what could really really really really
12:07help this dialogue is that there's a
12:09premise here that I think it's
12:11problematic, but I don't think it's
12:13yours, Mr. Frank. I think it's what
12:14people have taught in the world.
12:16And most of us have taken it because
12:18it's just what historians have said. And
12:21that premise is this.
12:23When Africans were enslaved in Africa
12:25and scattered around the world
12:28>> [clears throat]
12:28>> everything all their culture I I I think
12:30you were saying this a minute ago was
12:31stripped from them.
12:34That's the error.
12:36That's the error in this whole thing.
12:40Because
12:42a process cannot strip culture, the
12:45totality of culture from a people.
12:48Culture sometimes is in the artifacts of
12:51what people have, but culture is also in
12:53the flesh.
12:56Anywhere a person goes, their culture
12:58goes with them.
13:00Pieces of that culture in the dance, you
13:02know, it's in the body.
13:03In the language, we brought we brought
13:06African languages to America because we
13:09spoke African languages in Africa. We
13:11were certainly denied speaking those
13:13languages after while once we were
13:14enslaved, but the those languages and
13:16the influences of those languages are
13:19still in our black English tongues right
13:21now.
13:22Right? So the premise here is that
13:25African people who were enslaved and
13:27taken from Africa lost all of Africa in
13:30the process of being enslaved. That's
13:32the error.
13:35Right? Much of the culture came with us.
13:38Then through transmutation and synthesis
13:41we revised through some force and
13:43through some voluntary actions, we
13:46revised a lot of African culture in
13:49order that it could fit the context and
13:52the circumstances and the brutality
13:54under which we lived in this in this
13:57diasporic place, right?
13:59>> [snorts]
13:59>> Um called the Americas.
14:02So Africa there's much much much much
14:04much culture here that came along with
14:07us and there's much culture that we
14:09revised
14:10and gave birth to once we got here. For
14:13example
14:14you get jazz music in America, but jazz
14:17has its roots in Africa.
14:21But the jazz itself is absolutely an
14:24American continuum on the American
14:26continuum on the American aesthetic
14:28continuum in terms of culture. You get
14:30gospel music in America. You don't get
14:33gospel music in Africa. You get what you
14:35get now is Christian music in Africa
14:38that that white Christians have taken,
14:40but gospel music is a is is a cultural
14:44uh regenerative act that happened in the
14:46Americas that has certainly found its
14:48way back to Africa. Even traditions like
14:51jumping the broom when when we when we
14:53as enslaved people wanted to get
14:55married, we created that ritual here.
14:57African people created that ritual as a
14:59part of African culture as a means of
15:02creating a ritualized way whereby we
15:04could signify the validity of our own um
15:08of our our own marriages and
15:10relationships. But that is particularly
15:13an African-American cultural phenomenon,
15:16right? And so what I'm simply saying is
15:18is I understood the premise of what you
15:20were saying, Mr. Frank, right? What what
15:23most people misunderstand though is
15:25that we brought a culture with us and we
15:30modified and transmuted it once we
15:33arrived in this place called America.
15:37Thank you. What might you say to that,
15:40sir?
15:41I said thank you. Oh, I thought I didn't
15:43hear you. And and let me just say let me
15:45just clear this up cuz you know, if you
15:48you felt an ambush coming.
15:51I feel like if people have airwaves, we
15:54are in a space right now where there's
15:55so much division, particularly um
15:58there are these culture wars going on
16:00right now between blacks and Caribbeans
16:02and that's on purpose because divided
16:05divided we are conquered. That's how we
16:07got conquered. You just told us the
16:08story of the whole area known as what
16:11was first, you know, uh the French West
16:13Africa and it was divvied up, but all of
16:16Africa's been divvied up. And you said
16:18you hate these people cuz they sold
16:20these people, but they we're all one
16:21people. And if we don't understand that,
16:24we're going to be conquered again. And
16:25if people have microphones and they're
16:27constantly out here saying these things
16:29that animate a negative vibe about black
16:32people, it's
16:34it's no good and especially when it
16:36comes out of a black mouth. It it
16:38creates the division or it foments the
16:40division or it seasons the division that
16:43is already brewing for what purpose?
16:47So I'm just I I really just wanted to
16:49say like what's your purpose? When
16:51people hear things Mhm. you make
16:54individual conclusions
16:56as you you hear it.
16:58It may not be the Why would I come from
17:00Benin Republic
17:02and be saying things
17:05I was speaking not long ago in Boston
17:08and I said Benin has no culture.
17:14Now I don't understand what at all it's
17:18offensive when people but I was lucky
17:20that it was a monologue and it waited
17:22until a Q&A. So somebody asked me to
17:25explain.
17:26And I say you cannot raise your child as
17:29a Beninois.
17:30But you can raise your child as an Adja
17:33tribe a Bomba tribe
17:36a Wida tribe. But now they are calling
17:38us Benin. And if you take five Beninois
17:42people from Benin are called Beninois.
17:43If you take five, let me use Nigeria
17:45that is more popular. If you take five
17:48different Nigerians to France or any
17:50outside country and you ask them
17:54what do you speak in Nigeria?
17:56They will start looking at each other
17:58and say it depend on who you ask. Right.
18:00If you ask them, what is a Nigerian
18:02culture?
18:04They will say it depend on who you ask.
18:06If you ask them, what do you eat in
18:07Nigeria? They will say it depend on who
18:09you ask. If you ask a Nigerian, five
18:12different ones, Igbo, Yoruba, Bendel
18:14Calabar, Plateau, Sokoto
18:17what is the value systems of Nigerians?
18:19They will say it depend on who you ask.
18:22But if you ask these same five questions
18:24to a a Yoruba
18:26he will give you right answers.
18:30So it means
18:31when the countries were created
18:35the people who once had distinct culture
18:38with which they raised their children,
18:40traditions, norms and everything
18:42when they told them to become Nigeria or
18:44Benin or Ghana, they don't have anything
18:47at all in common. They are the tower of
18:50Babel.
18:52And I have to educate myself that we
18:55have a problem.
18:57When I call my nieces and cousins
18:59they cannot finish a sentence in my
19:01language completely without adding
19:04English or French. The French and
19:06English itself, they can't even speak it
19:08properly without us adding.
19:12That is a problem. Mhm. So you can see
19:15the problems we are suffering on the
19:17continent today
19:19it's all because in some cases like
19:21Kenya 42 different tribes that have
19:24nothing in common with each other
19:26are forced to believe that they have a
19:29country.
19:31So I did a test in in Kenya.
19:34Uh
19:36I I went to speak on the university
19:37campus. There were about 250 and I asked
19:40them, how many Kikuyus are in the room?
19:42And many students raised their hands.
19:43How many Luos? How many Maasai? How many
19:48Right. I did about seven of the 42
19:50tribes and they raised their hands and I
19:51paused for a second and I said, "How
19:53many Kenyans are in this room?" And the
19:55same hands went up again. And then
19:57everybody burst out laughing.
19:59So, I asked them, "When you wake up in
20:00the morning,
20:03are you a
20:04a Kenyan first or you are a Kikuyu
20:06first?"
20:08And that became a long conversation
20:10for them to understand why corruption,
20:13nepotism, tribalism, all these things
20:16have become and even killing each other
20:19in the same country thoughtlessly.
20:21Mhm. Mhm. Mhm. Mhm. So, what
20:24[clears throat] I mentioned here
20:26was because I was speaking here.
20:29Once upon a time, John Lennon sang a
20:31song and said, "Imagine if there is a
20:33world with no religion. There was no
20:34heaven. There was no earth. It would be
20:36a brotherhood of mankind living in
20:38love." Now, imagine a world without
20:40cultures,
20:41which gives birth to these world views
20:44and superiority and all that. It would
20:47be a brotherhood of mankind. Now,
20:50if somebody takes a soundbite from that
20:52long conversation, which was an hour,
20:54and you listen to it,
20:57then of course,
20:58as I read the comments and I have got
21:00many phone calls, many have said, "I
21:03think I know what you tried because I've
21:04been saying this, both Africans and
21:07African Americans.
21:08I do not believe at all that simply
21:11describing something because I have seen
21:14and I must say, if you take people from
21:17their original root." Now, whatever
21:19Everything Dr. you said,
21:22yes, it's true.
21:24People live thousands of years.
21:27Some of the things they do becomes
21:28almost like a DNA. Mhm.
21:31And I said to
21:33my friend in Bridgeport, who was a
21:35retired African American police officer,
21:37and I said, "I look at you." He said,
21:39"Take a look at me and tell me, where do
21:40you think I came from?" And I said, "You
21:42would fit easily as a Yoruba man." We
21:44were laughing. He said, "Look, I did my
21:46DNA." And actually pointed to those
21:47areas. And I said, "But
21:50he asked me, "Why is it that we can't
21:52get along?" And I said, "Let me explain
21:54something which is happening in my own
21:55country."
21:56I said, "Dwayne,
21:58the African Americans you see, the
22:00Jamaicans you see, the Asians you see,
22:03the reason they could not speak the
22:05language, continue to speak it, is
22:07because
22:09it was not one group tribe that was
22:12enslaved. If they did that, they would
22:14have continued speaking their language.
22:16Mhm. Take a little [clears throat] bit
22:17of this, this, this, this. When they
22:19arrive here, they could not because in
22:21Benin, when I travel 9 miles from my
22:24birthplace in my own country, I need an
22:27interpreter.
22:28Sure. Sure. Sure. Sure.
22:31>> African Americans or the Asians or the
22:32Jamaicans who arrived here, because they
22:34were just pockets of different tribes
22:36with different languages, they couldn't
22:38speak. So, in the case of Jamaica, they
22:40started using a little bit of their
22:42language they can remember, a little bit
22:43of French or English or Spanish, and
22:45then it become patois. Correct. The same
22:48became Creole. Correct. Remember, the
22:51Americo-Liberians, they took
22:54former slaves and sent them to Liberia.
22:57Right. They came back, they could not
22:58speak their languages. But, there were
22:59indigenous still in Liberia. So, they
23:02now have to force to speak with the
23:03indigenous. Finally, Liberia is one of
23:06the countries in Africa that has Creole,
23:09the only one, and Sierra Leone.
23:12So, very possibly, it seems to me, cuz
23:14what you're saying, I think it's right,
23:15Mr. Frank there, right? I think that's
23:17right. I I want to propose possibly, my
23:20elder, that perhaps the way
23:24you said it, or yes, it might have been
23:25taken um um um maybe I just out of the
23:28context, but also
23:30perhaps the way you said it, the notion
23:31that black people in America have no
23:33culture, I think that may not have been
23:35the way you wanted to say it. Maybe we
23:37might want to say that black people in
23:39America have a hybridized culture,
23:42right?
23:44Not that it's one culture from Africa
23:46that got transplanted here, and that one
23:48culture is clear. Cuz where you're right
23:50is we are the amalgamation of many
23:52different tr- uh um um cultural and
23:55tribal groups in Africa. That is
23:56absolutely true. Right? So, we
23:58definitely have cul- a cult- we
24:00definitely have culture here. But, what
24:02is true is it's not one example of one
24:05culture coming from Africa. So, there's
24:08not a cul- cultural continuity um that
24:10was unbroken. That is absolutely true.
24:13Yeah. Yeah. I cited in that
24:15conversation, I cited I said, "Haitians
24:18couldn't build." And I said, you you
24:20know, Africa stopped building.
24:23Why?
24:25When the Yoruba spoke only one language
24:27led by Oduduwa, which is their leader.
24:29When the Bomen people spoke only one
24:31language. When the Weda spoke one.
24:33Ashanti spoke only one language, one
24:35God, they were able to build that
24:38chieftaincy
24:40to a very powerful level.
24:41>> you don't you don't bring colonization
24:44and and what the Europeans have done and
24:47the Portuguese before them and the
24:49Spaniards have done in terms of
24:51stripping people of all of the things
24:52and forcing all of what you talked
24:55about, the one language and the one
24:58culture, Christmas and all of that. You
25:01you don't think that that's a source,
25:02you know, and you don't find it You
25:04don't think it was insulting?
25:06>> Absolutely.
25:06>> other videos, I explained that
25:09when people have a language, you see,
25:11all the G8 countries, one of the things
25:14that is common among them,
25:16one language,
25:18and they try hard Okay.
25:21>> to keep it that way.
25:22Um I said in my videos that
25:26tribes,
25:27I like the Ashanti, which is common, and
25:29you went to Ghana. These people were
25:31building quick and fast
25:34because they had only one language,
25:36which gave them one self-determination
25:38through their world vision or world
25:40view.
25:41When the languages were put together
25:43after the scramble, and it became Twi,
25:46Ga, Adangbe, Ewe, we couldn't speak to
25:48each other.
25:49That region ceased to build. And I used
25:52the Tower of Babel as an example. I
25:54said,
25:56"There is a time, this according to the
25:58story, people with one language were
26:00building a tower. For me, a vertical
26:02structure means development."
26:04And God changed the language, and they
26:07could not continue building. I said,
26:09>> But, the missing part here that I think,
26:11sir, and that is once all of these
26:14different Africans who are who are and
26:16it is right, are speaking different
26:17language, get on these slave ships, one
26:19of the magical things that happens is
26:21those Africans in the bellies of slave
26:23ships begin to to piece together their
26:26own communication systems. But, it's
26:29often as much through gestures as
26:31through words. So, that once the minute
26:33we get off those slave ships, we begin
26:35building a nation, and people now call
26:37that nation America. People now call
26:39that nation Haiti. People now call that
26:41nation uh
26:43uh Brazil. We begin to build And where
26:45you're right is because we we do create
26:48a system, but the language system is not
26:50only a language of words. It's also a
26:53language of gestures, right? And that
26:55allows us to create not only buildings,
26:57but also ideas, concepts, right? Uh a
27:01spiritual systems, etc., right? That
27:04allow us to to make lives and and allow
27:07us to make
27:08uh uh headway into um a cultural reality
27:10that has kept kept all of us alive. And
27:12one of the things I think that's
27:14important to say, we may not want to say
27:16that folks here didn't have a culture.
27:18What we might want to say is that that
27:20culture was hybridized. That culture
27:23>> Okay, y'all. I feel like we going
27:24around. Are you are you going to stand
27:26by this, Frank Zana? Um when you go out,
27:28you're going to when when the clip is
27:30played and a a person asks you, do you
27:32stand by that? Are you still standing by
27:35black people have no culture? I just
27:36want to Yes, I will explain
27:37>> All right.
27:38>> give the details after the
27:39>> can't then then there's there's no more
27:41no more to talk about.
27:43say we have no culture. Yeah. No, that's
27:45all right. Do you're not going to
27:46convince him. It's fine. He's going to
27:48stand by it. Thank you uh for coming in
27:50and answering our questions today. I
27:52appreciate you. Uh Zana project, Frank
27:55Zana,
27:56thank [applause] you.
27:57Thank you very much for having me. Okay.
28:00All right.
28:00>> Happy holidays to you all of you.
28:02Likewise.
28:03>> That's very African.
28:05Sorry. [laughter]
28:06Not at all. Oh my God. Okay. Goodbye,
28:09Frank. Bye.
28:11We're ready. We're prepared. Do not give
28:14in to fear.
28:16We are fearless.
28:18This is not the time to be afraid. This
28:21is the time to stand up and fight back.
28:24And to resist any temptation for them to
28:26divide us.
28:28We're in this together. The rule OF LAW
28:30IS ON OUR SIDE. WE WILL NOT GIVE IN, not
28:34give up, WE WILL NOT CAPITULATE, WE WILL
28:36NOT BOW, WE WILL NOT BEND. WE WILL
28:40SURVIVE.

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