Advocate Amy Orr – Breaking Period Stigma | Famous Interviews with Joe Dimino — Transcript
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- 0:00was good yeah well it's wonderful to
- 0:02meet you thank you for taking a minute
- 0:03out today thanks for having me yeah so
- 0:07I'm looking forward to getting into your
- 0:08work and the awareness that you're
- 0:10putting out into the world before we do
- 0:12that I want to ask you this one of the
- 0:14more momentous things that we went
- 0:16through In Our Lifetime was this
- 0:17pandemic four and a half years ago and
- 0:19it created so much of a shift and change
- 0:22in all of us how much of living through
- 0:24that time period has affected the work
- 0:27and what you're doing right now with
- 0:28your life
- 0:30um it's actually affected my business
- 0:32greatly
- 0:34I start I've completely restructured my
- 0:38my business basically so I started off
- 0:40in
- 0:412019 and then at the end of 2020 I
- 0:44decided to open a
- 0:46shop bricks and mortar shop so I ran an
- 0:49online uh plastic free zero waste shop
- 0:52so everything was reusable
- 0:54refillable um plastic free alternatives
- 0:57to everyday items like toothbrushes
- 1:00bamboo toothbrushes toothpaste tabs um
- 1:03items for your kitchen toilet brush
- 1:05wooden toilet brushes that kind of thing
- 1:07so among that was some period products
- 1:10as well reusable period products
- 1:12so uh I discovered in May last year
- 1:17that the bricks and mortar retail just
- 1:21wasn't for me so I have completely
- 1:24restructured my business again um since
- 1:272019 I used to give talks and workshops
- 1:30you know so over the past five six years
- 1:32I've given talks and workshops with
- 1:34local libraries um Trinity College in
- 1:37Dublin um and I realized in May last
- 1:42year that talks are what I want to do I
- 1:46find that it's great selling people or
- 1:49having these items alternative items
- 1:51that people can buy
- 1:53but I prefer to actually I feel like I
- 1:58can achieve more by
- 2:00talking about them and one of the areas
- 2:03that I'm really passionate about is um
- 2:05periods and the whole stigma surrounding
- 2:08periods um and I still do sell the
- 2:10period products but that's all I sell
- 2:12now yeah um yeah so I've completely
- 2:17changed model so so I'm curious with
- 2:21this change has it saved a lot of money
- 2:24a lot of resources has it allowed you to
- 2:26kind of reallocate what you were doing
- 2:28before in a different direction
- 2:31um yeah it's def I don't know if I've
- 2:33saved money certainly like I don't have
- 2:36to worry about buying as much stock in
- 2:37anymore um I don't have to worry about
- 2:39that stock selling because the talks and
- 2:42workshops kind of are my main focus and
- 2:44then I have the small amount of stock
- 2:47there on the website that people can
- 2:49access
- 2:51um but yeah so I'm working with like the
- 2:54local Council here and we are providing
- 2:57we're doing some talks and through those
- 3:00talks with the local libraries we are
- 3:03supplying students in schools here in
- 3:05Waterford with free reusable cloth pads
- 3:08yeah so we're helping to kind of bridge
- 3:11the the period poverty Gap that's there
- 3:14as well unfortunately for such a rich
- 3:16country Ireland
- 3:18is really bad in terms of period poverty
- 3:21and even hygiene poverty is a huge issue
- 3:23for a lot of people um specifically
- 3:26since covid and the cost of living
- 3:28crisis which is hit the entire world I
- 3:32suppose
- 3:33um yeah so I'm you know the one thing
- 3:37I've read some books about African
- 3:40villages where they're trying to get
- 3:42water and they're trying to get basic
- 3:44necessities to live and you know the
- 3:47girls can't go to school because of
- 3:49hygiene issues and I just you know being
- 3:51a male and not being in that environment
- 3:54it just didn't dawn on me but it's so
- 3:56essential for everything you know for
- 4:00for these kids because if they can't I
- 4:02mean that's why there's so many girls in
- 4:04Africa that aren't educated because they
- 4:06they literally can't go to
- 4:08school yeah um and one of the companies
- 4:11that I work with uh they're called eim
- 4:13so they make all the cloth pads that I
- 4:17stock um and I've been working with them
- 4:19for the past five years and I love their
- 4:21product because what they do they have
- 4:23like a pad for pad program so when I
- 4:25buy the pads from them I pay uh pad for-
- 4:30pad contribution and they use that
- 4:32contribution
- 4:34to um excuse me they use that
- 4:38contribution to supply young women in
- 4:40rural India with free cloth pads and
- 4:43they through their educational programs
- 4:45so they run programs on Breaking the
- 4:48stigmatism um surrounding periods
- 4:51teaching the girls proper hygiene the
- 4:53cloth pads are relatively easy to use
- 4:55because not a lot of the girls would
- 4:57have access to the facilities that we
- 4:58would like running water that kind of
- 5:00thing so um and like that similar in
- 5:05many cultures you know periods are seen
- 5:07as as dirty and that girls should be
- 5:09ashamed of them some women aren't even
- 5:11allowed to leave the house um they're
- 5:14hidden away for like the three or five
- 5:16days every month um but it's also a
- 5:20thing here in Ireland so there was a
- 5:22study done in 2018 and this study 1100
- 5:26girls um were surveyed and the study
- 5:29found that
- 5:3250% um between the ages of 12 and 19
- 5:35find it difficult to pay for Sanitary
- 5:37products 61% have missed school as a
- 5:40result of having their period um 55%
- 5:42were embarrassed by their period um and
- 5:46about
- 5:4710% were using
- 5:51um not like alternatives to Sri products
- 5:56to Menor products um not
- 6:00necessarily the best Alternatives so but
- 6:03like a lot of 61% of girls missing
- 6:06school because they had the period and
- 6:07probably because they just didn't have
- 6:10access to the products needed um and
- 6:14there's a great initiative here so it's
- 6:16like it's even in rich
- 6:19countries there is this issue and is
- 6:22Ireland kind of also has
- 6:24this Catholic guilt which is instilled
- 6:29it's it's just it's so deeply ingrained
- 6:33in Irish culture um it's definitely
- 6:36changing now but certainly like in my
- 6:38parents Generation Um my mom's 75 now
- 6:42like in her
- 6:43day it just wasn't talked about yeah you
- 6:46know I mean and this is something that
- 6:4751% of the entire population on the
- 6:49planet will experience yeah at some
- 6:52stage throughout their life and it's
- 6:55just yeah there's so much like
- 7:00education yeah that's needed um vital
- 7:04education um the government introduced
- 7:07products here like free products here
- 7:10free period products through the librar
- 7:13so you can go into any public library
- 7:15and you can get as much take as much as
- 7:18you want okay or as much as you need um
- 7:21but they're all disposables so I did a
- 7:24talk in Trinity College in Dublin and
- 7:26the students were saying that they got a
- 7:27grant and they were working with a small
- 7:30company in Cork um and this company were
- 7:34supplying organic cotton tampons and
- 7:36pads but then the funding ran out
- 7:39so those students no longer had access
- 7:42to these period products um whereas if
- 7:45they were all
- 7:46reusables that were supplied they'd
- 7:49still be using them and they would still
- 7:50have them because they can last for up
- 7:52to five years
- 7:53so um not only is there the
- 7:56environmental aspect but it can also
- 7:57save you money in the long run so
- 8:00I'm working with the council here in
- 8:02Waterford the city council and the
- 8:04County Council um and uh initiative
- 8:08called healthy Ireland um so we're
- 8:12basically their buying kits and I'm
- 8:15supplying the students and doing the
- 8:17talks so with the reusable period
- 8:19products so I don't think there's
- 8:21anywhere else in Ireland that's doing
- 8:24that yet
- 8:27yeah yeah
- 8:30so let me go back in your life to when
- 8:32you were a kid what was your dream what
- 8:35did you want to be when you grew up I
- 8:37wanted to be an actress
- 8:39okay and I my background I went to
- 8:43college and I studied Film Production
- 8:44and editing um I am an apple certified
- 8:47video
- 8:49editor um and I ran my own video
- 8:54production company
- 8:56for um from 200
- 9:00and eight
- 9:02until until my son was born
- 9:052015 um yeah so my background is so what
- 9:09I'm doing now is completely different to
- 9:11what I did back then um but it stood to
- 9:15me because I basically I generate my own
- 9:17content
- 9:18and you know the editing skills have
- 9:20come in really handy so yeah but yeah
- 9:23I've done like where I am now is nowhere
- 9:27near and obviously I still haven't
- 9:30got the whole acting thing off the
- 9:32ground so so let me ask you this take me
- 9:35back to your childhood what were the
- 9:36seeds that were planted into you that
- 9:39have have grown into you being an
- 9:41activist and and and and providing
- 9:43awareness to the public and how did you
- 9:46make this turn from from acting and film
- 9:49into this Pursuit now honestly it it
- 9:54didn't really start until I was pregnant
- 9:55with my son and I was researching like
- 9:59like cloth nappies and using cloth
- 10:01nappies um that's when it really started
- 10:05I was like wow there's a lot of waste
- 10:07generated by just one child um and then
- 10:11we just started using making small
- 10:13little changes in our lives over the
- 10:16years and then in 2019 I decided to just
- 10:18bite the bullet but in terms of growing
- 10:21up
- 10:22like I mean recycling back in Ireland in
- 10:26the 90s just wasn't really a thing um
- 10:31I didn't really become environmentally
- 10:34aware until
- 10:37probably I was in college I would say um
- 10:41and I actually did went over to the
- 10:42States on like a J1 student visa for the
- 10:45summer so things are just really
- 10:48different over there I was in New Jersey
- 10:52um yeah but Ireland like I think since
- 10:57we joined the EU things a lot of things
- 10:58have changed
- 11:00obviously um but also I like I don't
- 11:02think recycling is the answer either but
- 11:05not so much my childhood it was more
- 11:08kind of as an adult I suppose yeah um I
- 11:13really started when I was pregnant on my
- 11:15son I really
- 11:16started reading more on like the
- 11:19environmental impacts and obviously you
- 11:22know you're you're bringing a tiny
- 11:25person into the world you want to kind
- 11:26of I suppose I took more interest in
- 11:29kind of a world I was bringing him into
- 11:31yeah um yeah well I guess kind of thing
- 11:35I didn't even think about when I grew up
- 11:37compared to what my kids come home from
- 11:38school telling me you know and the stuff
- 11:40that they're learning
- 11:43um Ireland's definitely come a long way
- 11:46you know since my day in school um yeah
- 11:50it it it almost seems like what you're
- 11:52doing is kind of that model of like
- 11:54subscription based kind of like Netflix
- 11:56model like it's all everything adds up
- 12:00and when I think about it it's like what
- 12:02you're talking about you on your end was
- 12:04you're going to try to eliminate that
- 12:06waste and if people would just adopt
- 12:07that into a few areas of their lives
- 12:10there would be a very massive impact but
- 12:13it's just going to take those little
- 12:14things and I think sometimes people
- 12:16think well what am I going to do I'm
- 12:17just one person but that's the point
- 12:20right I mean everybody can do something
- 12:23together and collectively it can become
- 12:24a
- 12:25movement that's is I mean with this a
- 12:28quot it's like oh it's just one straw 8
- 12:31billion people you know I mean
- 12:35even H I can't think of the stats now
- 12:38but
- 12:40like there is I mean the
- 12:45average baby so the average birth rate
- 12:48in Ireland every year is 45,000 okay so
- 12:51if every one of those parents even used
- 12:54one cloth nappy a day when you knew that
- 12:55you were going to be
- 12:57home and you knew you weren't going to
- 12:59leave the house so if there was any
- 13:00accidents or leaks or anything you know
- 13:02you'd be home you could change the child
- 13:04whatever um but like one cloth nappy a
- 13:09day 365 days times
- 13:1245,000 that is a consider considerable
- 13:16amount of disposable nappies yeah that
- 13:19aren't going into landfill do you know
- 13:21what I mean that is just like
- 13:23one nappy a day yeah um and the same
- 13:27with like the cloth pads
- 13:29I mean they have the potential to um
- 13:34sorry Joe give me one second now yeah no
- 13:36worries
- 13:38um I'm going to give you the actual
- 13:40stats sure um that I have here so sorry
- 13:46I just have to bring it no you're fine
- 13:49um how am I doing so far this is my
- 13:51first podcast oh wow no you're doing
- 13:53wonderful this is excellent okay I your
- 13:57questions okay I tend to Waffle a bit no
- 13:59you're fine that's good what you're
- 14:00doing in that process is kind of
- 14:02knocking down all these little dominoes
- 14:04that I'm putting in a little racetrack
- 14:06so it's like if if I don't get to that
- 14:08question it's because you knocked it
- 14:09down early on so it's good okay oh good
- 14:11okay um yeah so the 120 kits that I've
- 14:17distributed to students through my talk
- 14:20so far have the potential to save 39,000
- 14:24disposables wow ending up in landfills
- 14:27and waterways and it in turn save
- 14:30families 78,000 Euro over the next five
- 14:33years and that's only
- 14:35120 kids yeah yeah um 120 girls and
- 14:40people so you know and that's just one
- 14:44class in one school or like four
- 14:47different schools four different classes
- 14:49of 30 kids
- 14:51it's that's the impact that such a small
- 14:55number can have so you can imagine I
- 14:57mean there's 5,000 students Al together
- 15:00in Watford schools primary and secondary
- 15:03schools so you can imagine the impact of
- 15:065,000 of those kits could have
- 15:08absolutely the amount of money that it
- 15:10would save and that like it would
- 15:12save the companies and the councils and
- 15:16the country money as well because
- 15:19obviously they're getting hiring
- 15:22engineer firms to try and fix the issues
- 15:25with the old Waterway systems um and
- 15:28improve them um and a lot of those
- 15:30issues are coming from disposables yeah
- 15:34being flushed whether it's cloth white
- 15:36or wipes people cut up nappies and flush
- 15:41nappies um because they don't want to
- 15:43pay in
- 15:45charges um you know obviously a lot of
- 15:48um period products are in there as well
- 15:51so there's a lot of stuff being flushed
- 15:53that shouldn't be flushed yeah um so
- 15:56yeah it just has the like it's just a
- 15:58no-brainer to me
- 16:00um I just don't know why it's
- 16:04not why it hasn't snowballed I supp yes
- 16:09well we're going to do our little part
- 16:10here and and you're doing a big part
- 16:12with the work you're doing so who's you
- 16:14know in any Pursuit that we do in life
- 16:16there's always an inspirational figure
- 16:18kind of a hero that's there who is that
- 16:20for you in your
- 16:24work do you have one no okay none that I
- 16:29can think of really like
- 16:33there's oh God that's a really hard
- 16:35question
- 16:37because I can't just pinpoint like one
- 16:40person well how about
- 16:42this how about this if is there anyone
- 16:45out there in the world of activism or
- 16:48getting doing something that's going to
- 16:50globally be um beneficial to all of us
- 16:53that you would like to meet to see how
- 16:55they do to just have a portal into how
- 16:57they work that may benefit you um I
- 17:01think Greta thunberg
- 17:04has like just really brought um I'd love
- 17:10to meet her she's an amazing young woman
- 17:13um and I think that she has really
- 17:15brought really Shone a light
- 17:18on the state of the world yeah I I know
- 17:22a lot of people give out about the just
- 17:24stop oil activists but yes some of the
- 17:28stuff is Extreme but I mean if we keep
- 17:32going the way we're going obviously
- 17:34there is no such thing as art on a dead
- 17:37planet
- 17:39um I don't actually know any names of
- 17:41Who's involved in just upop oil but um I
- 17:45understand some people are like oh
- 17:46they're interrupting you know
- 17:49performances on stage and on Broadway
- 17:52and it's like well you
- 17:55know I get it yeah but also I think
- 17:58people need escapism as well um so Greta
- 18:02is kind of
- 18:03bringing a bit more awareness without
- 18:06being as disruptive I suppose yeah I
- 18:10agree yeah no I AG yeah no I think she's
- 18:13doing wonderful work and and so I'm
- 18:16curious with what you're doing you're
- 18:18dealing with something heavy you're
- 18:19giving of yourself you didn't get into
- 18:20this line of work to make a lot of money
- 18:23and to do things right I mean you're
- 18:25you're you're out there trying to help
- 18:27people make an impact so I'm curious how
- 18:30do you what what gets you up every day
- 18:32what motivates you to do this work and
- 18:34also you have to evolve as a human being
- 18:36what is that Collective energy for you
- 18:37every day to do this work for me every
- 18:41day I'll be honest it's not always easy
- 18:43getting up in the mornings
- 18:46um but one of the things that has really
- 18:49kind of driven me since I started doing
- 18:51these talks is uh the feedback that I've
- 18:53been getting from the students so I
- 18:54Supply them with like a a questionnaire
- 18:58and and they answer the questions
- 19:00basically how do they feel coming into
- 19:02the workshop how do they feel after the
- 19:04workshop do they feel that their
- 19:06confidence levels in discussing periods
- 19:08has improved that kind of thing um and
- 19:10the
- 19:11statistics that I have um are kind of
- 19:15speaking for themselves which is great
- 19:18um so I've essentially spoken to about
- 19:21208 girls so far
- 19:24um and like 45% felt nervous or
- 19:28embarrassed coming in 33% were curious
- 19:31or excited 20% felt fine um and then
- 19:35after the
- 19:36workshop you know like 59% are feeling
- 19:40more confident slightly more confident
- 19:42and informed 62% F that their confident
- 19:45levels in discussing periods had
- 19:47increased um and 31% kind of felt the
- 19:50same as before
- 19:52so I'm seeing the and it's only a small
- 19:56amount of students but
- 19:59I'm
- 20:00seeing the numbers um so that's actually
- 20:03giv me a boost and then I get all these
- 20:06they can write their own feedback and
- 20:08comments at the end of the fors um
- 20:11they're not always pretty but the vast
- 20:12majority of them are really really nice
- 20:15um and yeah it just talking to them and
- 20:19hearing their stories and seeing them
- 20:22opening up as the talks
- 20:24progress um and it's only like an hour
- 20:27yeah um
- 20:29seeing the impact that it's having is is
- 20:32amazing yeah um yeah so it's
- 20:35definitely it's the only reason I get
- 20:37out of bed because let's be honest I'm
- 20:39not really making a lot of money from it
- 20:41but right I'm probably like the worst
- 20:43businesswoman in the world but that's
- 20:44not why I'm doing it and it would be
- 20:47lovely to make a career out of it a paid
- 20:49career out of it but um that's what I'm
- 20:53trying to do but obviously it'll be a
- 20:56while before I get there but certainly
- 20:58the feedback that's coming back from the
- 21:00talks that I'm doing um and from the
- 21:03teachers as well is definitely what's
- 21:07keeping me going on like the hardest
- 21:09days so so at the end of the day when
- 21:12you look at the Arc of what you've done
- 21:13in your career in your life up to this
- 21:15point what are you the proudest
- 21:17of um my kids of
- 21:22course um yeah you know they're seven
- 21:26and
- 21:27nine they're a lot more cluing than I
- 21:29was at that age um you know I definitely
- 21:33think the tide is changing um they're
- 21:36learning a lot more in school with
- 21:38regards to the environment and stuff
- 21:39like that and some of the stuff that
- 21:40they're coming out with I mean it's
- 21:42common sense and it's it makes me proud
- 21:45because I mean I know so many adults
- 21:50that even refuse to think that way do
- 21:52you know what I
- 21:53mean and it's pretty much just
- 21:56unlearning what we've been brought up up
- 21:58to believe um but there's a lot of
- 22:01people out there who just refuse to even
- 22:03take that into account or to refuse to
- 22:07unlearn what they grew up knowing
- 22:10um yeah so I I I it might sound like a
- 22:15bit of a cliche but my kids they do
- 22:17teach you a lot yeah for sure especially
- 22:21to be humble yeah they certainly do so
- 22:25at the end of the day is the face of
- 22:26this movement everyone has a perception
- 22:28of you family friends everyone that
- 22:31hears you speak everyone that gets
- 22:34involved with your mission but you run
- 22:36the show what's your perception of you
- 22:38who Do You Think You
- 22:40Are God that's another hard
- 22:44question
- 22:51I'm I don't know Irish people aren't
- 22:53very good at self-praise um I got yeah
- 22:59um
- 23:01I yeah I I think what I bring to the
- 23:04talks
- 23:05is
- 23:07um I'm not really one
- 23:10for big words I prefer Simplicity
- 23:14um and I think
- 23:17being um showing the some confidence in
- 23:21in that I know what I'm talking about
- 23:23but also like being
- 23:25approachable
- 23:27um is really important especially with
- 23:29the the students and the girls and
- 23:31getting them to open up and asking their
- 23:32questions
- 23:34so it is nice knowing that they can
- 23:38approach me after the the talk if they
- 23:41want their questions answered and that
- 23:42they can ask those questions and that
- 23:45they feel safe with me to ask those
- 23:46questions and confident um so yeah I
- 23:52think I think my openness and my ability
- 23:55to talk to them as grown-ups as well is
- 23:59uh definitely helps um and that would be
- 24:01one of my strengths it's supp
- 24:02Communication open
- 24:04communication yeah but I think that's
- 24:06the most important thing for everyone
- 24:08isn't it yeah yeah so if anyone wants to
- 24:11get involved you've done a wonderful job
- 24:13of kind of orchestrating a good overview
- 24:15if anyone out there wants to help get
- 24:17involved has questions Reach Out catch
- 24:20you live speaking how can they do that
- 24:23they can head to my website y.
- 24:29um I have a bit of information there I
- 24:32am working on getting a bit of corporate
- 24:36funding um and getting some local
- 24:38corporations to sponsor kits
- 24:41for students in Irish schools
- 24:45um yeah so they can reach me on the
- 24:48website or I'm on Instagram and Tik Tok
- 24:51set up a
- 24:52substack I'm looking to get away from
- 24:54meta AIT but honestly I how so I have
- 24:58Haven even looked at sub stack yet
- 25:01so cool I get it I totally get it yeah
- 25:04this is great I know how it works so
- 25:06don't follow on substack but uh conf
- 25:08find me on Tik
- 25:10Tok I will put links in the show notes
- 25:12to all of this Amy you did wonderful
- 25:13thank you so much for your message your
- 25:15story best of luck I appreciate it thank
- 25:18you so much
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