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0:00Basically it like I said once I got that
0:01jam then that's when I went and shot and
0:04then it jammed again. I heard it jam
0:05again and that's when I was like oh
0:07[ __ ] So
0:12>> on May 28th 2024 [music] two neighboring
0:16business owners in Inesse Florida were
0:18caught in a dispute that had been
0:19building through a [music] series of
0:20hostile text messages. Dwan Ross Jr.
0:24operated a barber shop at Colonial Plaza
0:26[music] on Highway 44 West. Just steps
0:29away, 33-year-old Tras C. Johnson ran a
0:32technology and electronics business.
0:34[music]
0:35The tension between them centered on
0:37personal allegations and relationships,
0:40but by late morning, the conflict was no
0:42longer contained to [music] their
0:43phones. The two men came face to face in
0:46the shared parking lot outside their
0:48businesses. What began as a
0:51confrontation quickly turned physical
0:53and within [music] moments deputies were
0:55responding to a shooting. When they
0:58arrived, Johnson was found badly wounded
1:00in the parking lot. He was rushed to a
1:02nearby hospital but did not survive.
1:04[music] Ross was detained at the scene
1:06and the Citrus County Sheriff's Office
1:08began securing [music] evidence,
1:10speaking with witnesses, and piecing
1:12together how a business neighbor dispute
1:14had ended in gunfire. Now, detectives
1:16are preparing to sit down with [music]
1:18Ross and hear his account of what
1:19happened. This is the interrogation of
1:22Dwan Ross Jr.
1:24>> What's the place called? Uh, travel
1:26ball.
1:27>> Everything has to be Yeah, it has to be
1:29like
1:29>> uniform.
1:30>> Yeah, uniform. And also have to be, you
1:32know, like not like the bat can't have
1:35>> Oh, no. These were just little like for
1:37the end of the year little 18inch.
1:39>> Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. I didn't know
1:40nothing about that.
1:41>> Damn. This is the type of Slingerland.
1:44This is Dwan Dwan.
1:47>> This is Detective Steel Fox. They good
1:49people, man.
1:50>> All right.
1:51>> Good people. Like I said, keep your keep
1:53your head clear.
1:54>> Yes, sir.
1:55>> Hey, man. It's nice to
1:57>> Yeah, bud.
1:58>> Yeah, man.
1:59>> Hey, I handcuffed him in the front. Um,
2:01>> that's fine. That's fine. Good job.
2:03>> Let me tell you what I did. Tell you
2:06what I did, and I apologize. I'm a big
2:08dummy. I let him go to the bathroom. We
2:11went to the bathroom. He had to go
2:13potty.
2:15Started to wash his hands. Stopped about
2:17halfway through. Sorry.
2:18>> Okay.
2:19>> I got a little bit right here on my
2:21fingers, you know, but
2:23>> not a big deal.
2:24>> All right. Is this my wallet?
2:27>> That's his wallet and his pen.
2:28>> Okay.
2:29>> So, um, that's the only thing he had on
2:31him.
2:31>> Yeah.
2:31>> Okay.
2:33>> All right.
2:35>> What's your name again?
2:36>> Deputy Ruby. Same.
2:37>> Ruby. Same. All right. I'll try to All
2:39right, man.
2:40>> All right, man. Easy.
2:43like like sorry about that through the
2:45door because I told him I didn't get a
2:47chance to take a shower yet and then the
2:50you know the sweat from being out there
2:51in that heat when that situation went
2:53down they're coming over here so it was
2:54a little
2:56>> it's it's hot already.
2:57>> No it's it's scorch out there.
2:58>> Yeah.
3:01>> Yeah.
3:01>> We went straight to summer didn't we?
3:03>> Yeah. No it's been that way for a
3:05minute. I I saw so I knew.
3:07>> So it's it's everybody been calling you
3:10skinny.
3:10>> Yeah. That's my I'm from I'm the barber.
3:13I own that barber shop up there um at
3:15Papa Jenny's restaurant. So they know me
3:17as Skinny the Barber, but my name is
3:18Dwan Ross. [snorts]
3:20>> D W A N
3:24>> Ross. R O S S.
3:25>> Correct.
3:26>> What's your middle name?
3:27>> Demetrius. D E M E T R I U S. And I'm a
3:33junior.
3:34>> Junior. Yeah. Yeah. What's your
3:36birthday? 0815
3:391988.
3:43What's a good cell phone number for you?
3:45Um,
3:51okay. Hey, so you're obviously here at
3:54the sheriff's office. You got handcuffs
3:56on. I'm going to ask you some questions.
3:58I have to read your rights before I do
3:59that. Okay.
4:05>> You have the right to remain silent.
4:07Anything you say can will be used
4:09against you in a court of law. You have
4:11the right to talk to a lawyer and have
4:13him present with you while you are being
4:15questioned. You understand those so far?
4:17>> Correct.
4:17>> Okay. If you cannot afford to hire a
4:19lawyer, one will be appointed to
4:21represent you before any questioning if
4:23you wish. You can decide at any time to
4:25exercise these rights and not answer any
4:27questions or make any statements. Do you
4:30understand each of the rights I just
4:31explained to you? Yes, sir.
4:32>> Okay. Having these rights in mind, you
4:34wish to talk to us? Yes, sir. Answer my
4:36questions. Okay.
4:39So, what what what can you tell me about
4:42what happened today up there? So, you
4:44said you run the barber shop.
4:46>> I own the barber shop.
4:47>> You own the barber shop, sir. Who else?
4:49Who else works that barber shop?
4:50>> Um, I own uh my co-own with uh Chris
4:53Chris [clears throat] Davis and John.
4:54John up there as well, too.
4:56>> Okay.
4:56>> Um and then I just got one employee.
4:58>> Okay.
4:59>> Other than that,
5:00>> and you guys you guys do all the work
5:01cutting and obviously I don't I don't go
5:03to the barber shop that often.
5:05>> Correct. But we can do the beard though,
5:06you know.
5:06>> I I don't think take advantage yet.
5:09>> I understand. But yes, sir. That's what
5:10I do for a living.
5:12>> So, were you working this morning?
5:13>> I was not working this morning.
5:15>> Okay. So, what brought you up there
5:17today?
5:17>> Okay. So, today I was um coming back
5:21from Ocala from Marian County after
5:23dropping off my son cuz I had to take
5:24him to go get back to daycare. I have
5:27another child. So, I got two girls which
5:29I had at the house. I'm 14 and 11 years
5:30old. I had to take the 2-year-old to
5:32Ocala to the Kid USA. As I was coming
5:34back from there, um, I was on the phone
5:37with John explaining to him that I had
5:40got a threat. That's why I wish I don't
5:42know if y'all got cell phone or not.
5:43Y'all got my cell phone by any chance?
5:45>> Okay. So, I told him or whatever that I
5:47had got a threat because um,
5:51let's see here. Let me make sure I'm
5:52exactly right. At like 1:23,
5:56um, I forget what day exactly was, but
5:58like I said, it's in my phone still. I
6:00had got a text message saying that um we
6:03can go thought for thought or I can
6:06spray that [ __ ] up. You're [ __ ] with
6:08basically you're [ __ ] with the wrong
6:09woman, you know. So I I get the message
6:13at 1:23. I check it at 3:00 when I go go
6:15get something drink or whatever. And
6:18then I respond back, "Who is this?" And
6:19I said, "It's sad that you are trying to
6:22shoot up my home knowing that my kids
6:24are in here over a female."
6:26>> Mhm.
6:26>> Left it alone.
6:28So then I budget call it like I said I
6:30nervous the whole weekend I left. I took
6:32my kids to Orlando. Um we budget call it
6:34we come back.
6:36>> So let me stop you real quick. When was
6:38that text?
6:39>> Um that I I can't confirm the whole day
6:41cuz today is what? Today is Tuesday.
6:42>> You remember what you remember what day?
6:43Today's Tuesday.
6:44>> Today? Yeah. Uh I started talking. I'm
6:47trying to figure out when the girl saw
6:48me cuz she said she had to go to work. I
6:49think it might have been I think it
6:51might have been Sunday. Yeah, it was
6:53Sunday because I didn't leave cuz I had
6:55my son Liam. So it hadn't been Sunday.
6:57Has it been Monday? Yeah. So Sunday it
6:59had to happen.
7:01>> Um just to make shift cuz she had like I
7:03said I'm talking to her an RN. So she
7:04worked night shift or whatever. You know
7:06>> you said you went to Orlando.
7:08>> Yeah. But that was before. So I didn't
7:09go to So during that time that Orlando
7:12already went to
7:12>> Okay.
7:12>> I already went to Orlando whatever cuz
7:14I'm thinking about it because the cuz
7:16they someone had got mad that I had end
7:19up watching um the niece.
7:21>> So it was the niece of trash Johnson as
7:24a matter of fact. Um the little girl was
7:26in the middle of the street or whatever,
7:27you know. We out there chit chatting
7:29having a conversation. I'm just trying
7:30to tell him like, "Hey, blah blah blah,
7:31you know, I'll watch her or whatever."
7:33And
7:35um I end up watching the girl that night
7:36or whatever. Apparently Trash got mad
7:38about the situation, you know, and I'm
7:41just I'm going just say everything he
7:42said like, "Oh, you know, he's a [ __ ]
7:44[ __ ] for watching someone else's
7:46child." Um and then you also let that
7:49child be there at the house with someone
7:51that she don't know. And I explained to
7:54them that I have two daughters or
7:55whatever. She's in the front room. She's
7:57perfectly fine and safe. You can
7:58FaceTime and do whatever you want to. I
8:00just wanted the child to have a good
8:02home or somewhere to sleep for that
8:03night. And so she got off work to pick a
8:06pick the child back up at 8:00 a.m. So
8:08then back to the story now. So she gets
8:11the child at 8:00 a.m. You know, she
8:13gets ridiculed for the whole night. I
8:15don't hear everything that she's talking
8:16about. But then today after I dropped
8:20Liam off from daycare, I get a call
8:22after uh on being on there saying a text
8:24message saying that um what is she going
8:27to tell me? She said uh oh um so
8:32apparently you was [ __ ] another girl.
8:34She's like apparently you was [ __ ]
8:36another girl and they got you on the
8:37ring camera. Uh when was this? Because
8:40you were with a girl named Liz. And I
8:42was like that has nothing to do with
8:44you. So I'm not even going to even talk
8:46about that. like I just let that
8:47situation go or whatever, you know?
8:49>> So then I go to call um trash up because
8:52I want to find out who was the one that
8:54said that you were going to shoot at my
8:56house. I want to know, hey bro, what's
8:58going on? Oh man, um don't [ __ ] call
9:01me. I'm like, bro, I'm calling to find
9:03out answers. Like I'm not calling you on
9:05no like tough guy stuff or no hypy
9:07stuff. And I can even show that to you
9:09on my phone because I clear as day
9:11texted him after he hung up and said,
9:12"Hey man, I'm not trying to cause no
9:14issue. I just wanted to know, you know
9:16what I'm saying? Like, what's going on?
9:18Why are you even put my name in your
9:20mouth about this situation when I'm only
9:21dating this girl? I have nothing to do
9:23with you guys. You know what I'm saying?
9:24We live on the same street. We see each
9:26other. I cut your hair, but I have
9:28nothing to do with you. Other than those
9:30things, I would never talk to you, you
9:32know? So, we leaving it at that. So, I
9:34get ready to drive home. As I'm pulling
9:36into the uh Starbucks, because they got
9:38the new Starbucks, that's where I live
9:39at behind there. I see him and he opens
9:42up the door or whatever and was like,
9:45"Um, oh man, you a [ __ ] ass [ __ ] Um,
9:48I told you once the first time that you
9:51need to keep that little PP shooter on
9:53you and you need to whatchamacall it uh
9:55yeah, I told you the first time you need
9:56to keep that little PP shooter on you
9:58and um to stay protected." I was like,
10:00"Huh?" I was like, "That's weird." Which
10:03actually I got that in the text message,
10:04too, because this is not the first time
10:07he done threatened me. And like I said,
10:08he literally threatened me over a
10:10female, you know. So I got him a text
10:13message or whatever and I was like,
10:14"Damn, bro, that's kind of messed up
10:15with you being, you know, a convicted
10:17felon, saying those type of things. And
10:19I'm not even trying to be on that level.
10:20I'm just trying to have a simple
10:21conversation with you." So then he was
10:23like, "Well, [ __ ] it. Come and meet me
10:25um at the ice place, which is where he
10:27owns, and then over there at our
10:29business." I said, "Okay, bet. I will
10:30come over there." I get ready to get out
10:32of the truck. As you see, my truck was
10:34on 45 angle. As I get out of the truck,
10:37he jumps out and immediately approaches
10:39me or whatever and like start running
10:41his mouth. And I'm like, "Bro, I'm not
10:42even trying to hear that." Now, he don't
10:44know that I got my buddy, one of my
10:46owners on the phone.
10:47>> Mhm.
10:48>> Just cuz I already knew for a witness. I
10:49said, "John, please stay on the phone."
10:50But I put John on the uh the mute so
10:53that [clears throat] he couldn't hear if
10:54John were to say something. So, John was
10:57on the phone and the phone the phone was
10:59in the seat the entire time. I'm like,
11:00"Bro, I'm just trying to get answers on
11:02why you, you know, speaking about this
11:04and that, man. [ __ ] you, bro. You a
11:06[ __ ] ass [ __ ] This that and the
11:08other. I'll punch you in your [ __ ]
11:09face. Now, if you don't mind me standing
11:11up. Okay, that's what I want to say. So,
11:14I'm standing like this facing him. You
11:16know what I'm saying? He says he he like
11:19I punch you in your [ __ ] face. Then
11:21goes and rears up. You know what I'm
11:24saying? Now, I grab him. I get a hold of
11:25his necklace and all this [ __ ] This
11:27[ __ ] breaking in the whole n or
11:28whatever. Now, after that, I black out.
11:30I don't know really too much what
11:32happened after that because he he goes
11:34and says, "Oh, I'm a what's my call? I'm
11:36going to [ __ ] go get something for
11:37you." So, I see Buddy literally reaching
11:39into his car, reaching on the back of
11:41his [ __ ] truck or whatever. Now, he
11:43coming back at me again or whatever. You
11:45know what I'm saying? Now, he goes to
11:46start swinging or whatever. Now, with
11:49this situation, okay, now he goes to
11:50start swinging. I was just going to show
11:51what I was doing. Back up, but he goes
11:53to swing. Boom, boom, boom. I'm backing
11:55up. You know what I'm saying? Now, I was
11:58going to call, like I said, I was going
11:59to call a fire up on his ass or
12:00whatever. But the thing is is um when
12:03he's sitting there doing that, he's
12:05still trying to steadily attack. And I'm
12:06just like, bro, like, stop, stop, stop
12:08or whatever, you know, like just stop or
12:10whatever. There's no reason for this
12:11[ __ ] You know what I'm saying? And
12:13that's when the shots end up happening,
12:16you know, from there. And then I saw one
12:18of the clients, which is the guy that
12:19was in a blue shirt, um cuz he was going
12:22to get a haircut from Chris, he comes up
12:24and was telling me, "Oh, man. um you
12:27know like just chill out, chill out,
12:28chill out, whatever. Blah blah blah. And
12:30I'm like, "No, man." And I'm like, "My
12:31firearm goes to jail." You know what I'm
12:33saying? I my prior certain my firearm
12:35goes to jam. First thing I go to do is
12:37just go right back in the training to
12:38clear it so that way I can be able to
12:40defeat the threat or whatever. And I'm
12:42literally sitting there doing that. I
12:44put fire off one last shot. It jams
12:46again. I say, "Fuck it." You know, leave
12:48it alone. Now, he's still sitting there.
12:51The dude's still kind of mad at me and
12:53agitated, but he don't even know what
12:55what's led up to that. You know what I'm
12:57saying? Like he's mad. I'm like, "Bro,
12:59I'm trying to show you and tell you I've
13:01been threatened this whole time or
13:03whatever saying that I'm going to get
13:04shot at." And if someone goes and
13:06reaches into their vehicle to go and act
13:08upon it or I don't know what you got
13:10now, I smoke with him every day. See,
13:11this is another thing a lot of people
13:12don't know. Every morning me and me and
13:15him sit with each other and smoke. You
13:17know what I'm saying? He's 50 pound.
13:18Hey, and I don't know what type of [ __ ]
13:20you got cuz like I said, he said he
13:21wanted he wanted to fire upon me. And
13:23then also I got the text messages where
13:25they were saying they wanted to shoot at
13:26my house. But um I don't know if you got
13:30a a knife, a gun, or whatever the case
13:32is in your [ __ ] You know, I do know
13:34that you do have knives and I do know
13:36that you do have goods, but I didn't
13:37know. So like I said, you reaching in
13:39there to go grab something. I don't know
13:41what you got going on. And like I
13:42literally tried to defer the whole time.
13:44I'm sitting there saying, "Bro, I am
13:46trying to talk and have a conversation
13:48with you, manto man. That's why I post
13:51I've sent it in the text message to tell
13:54you this, but immediately you man, go
13:56call these [ __ ] [ __ ] man. Go call
13:58these [ __ ] bitches." And then you
13:59stand there threatening me telling me
14:01you going to hurt me and [ __ ] punch
14:02me in my [ __ ] face. That's not going
14:04to happen. You know what I'm saying? So
14:06I stood my ground. So,
14:09what time
14:12what time did you see him at at
14:14Starbucks?
14:15>> My math is right cuz I did I texted my
14:17daughter Aubrey and I said uh get ready
14:20and I was on the phone. Yeah. So, I was
14:22on the phone. So, that was a little bit.
14:24I probably said around about 9 cuz my
14:27barber shop was open. My barber shop
14:28opened at 9:00 and Nick was there and
14:30they always there first. So Chris was
14:32sitting outside about 9 9:00 between
14:369:00 and 9:15.
14:38>> Okay.
14:39>> Mhm.
14:41>> And was he
14:44like in the line Starbucks or?
14:46>> No, sir. He jumped out on me or
14:48whatever. Like as I'm going into the
14:50Starbucks that first apron, you know,
14:52off 44.
14:53>> You coming off a 44 Starbucks?
14:55>> Yes, sir. That's when I'm coming into
14:57there. He can't put his windows down on
15:00this truck. So, he just opened it
15:01immediately. I was nervous anyway cuz
15:03the [ __ ] windows are all blacked out.
15:05You know what I'm saying? And you
15:07literally just pulling up like that. And
15:08if you look at the camera on Starbucks,
15:10you can see clear thing. I stuck
15:12purposely so that way he didn't feel
15:13threatened in any way, shape, or form. I
15:15literally took both my hands like this
15:17and put it right outside the door and
15:19said, "Man, I'm just trying to have a
15:20conversation with you." And that was So
15:23if I pull into the building of Starbucks
15:25coming off the 44 this way
15:27>> where Don Poss is at
15:29>> between Starbucks and Don Poss.
15:31>> Yes. That that apron there.
15:32>> Were you guys were you guys parked
15:33there?
15:34>> Yes. Right there. That one there. Yo, he
15:36was coming out like his vehicle when he
15:38when whenever he was leaving out and I
15:39was going in cuz like I said I cut
15:41through Starbucks to make that right cuz
15:42I live behind Whisper Pines.
15:44>> Okay.
15:45>> You know what I mean? Right there. And
15:46literally right there. Then he was just
15:48like, "Man, let you know Chitchat talk
15:49about it." I said, "Okay, bet. I go back
15:51over there to go have a simple
15:53conversation and now I'm sitting over
15:54here, you know, like I said, being
15:56threatened and the whole nine feeling as
15:58if you fa to really gonna hurt me
15:59because like I said, this is multiple
16:01times that this has happened or whatever
16:03to the fact that instead of having a
16:05conversation, you always bringing up
16:07that you're going to harm me and shoot
16:09me or do anything of that nature, you
16:11know.
16:11>> And did he say he was going to do
16:13something to you while you were there at
16:14Starbucks?
16:15>> Oh, yeah. No, no, not at Starbucks. No,
16:17not at Starbucks. So,
16:19what happened after he left Starbucks?
16:22>> I just turned around and then I followed
16:23him like he told me to, but then we were
16:26supposed to go straight, but there was a
16:27truck unloading vehicles from in front
16:29of a Dodge Plaza or whatever. So, I went
16:31around, you know what I'm saying? Like
16:33that. So, when he came through the
16:34parking lot, he parked he passed my
16:36barber shop and I came around, you know,
16:39no, like I don't know what the other
16:40entrance would be, but basically by the
16:42mailbox, you know what I'm saying? Like
16:43that. And then that's why I parked there
16:45at 45 cuz I wasn't going to be there
16:46long. I didn't want to have the
16:48conversation and just leave, right? You
16:49know what I'm saying? It wasn't like I'm
16:50trying to run up there and trying to
16:52harm you or nothing. I just quick
16:53conversation, boom, boom, boom, and get
16:55out of there because we can't park in
16:56the front anyway because of the
16:57businesses. You can't block them so that
16:59other businesses have opportunity to be
17:00able to get money, too.
17:01>> Okay.
17:02>> Yeah.
17:02>> So, but he goes in and parks in front of
17:06his shop.
17:06>> Yeah. He backs in and parks right in
17:08front of Well, technically this tattoo
17:10shop.
17:10>> Okay. And then I I saw where your truck
17:12was parked. You got the silver Dodge
17:14>> silver Dodge Ram. Okay. So,
17:19Was he getting out of his truck? Was he
17:20out of his truck when you pulled in?
17:22>> Yeah, he was getting out of his truck. I
17:24I don't know like if I open my door
17:26first or whatever to be exact, but I
17:27know that he like I said, he came up to
17:29me. You know what I'm saying? And I was
17:31just like, "Oh shit." You know, like cuz
17:33it was just mad aggressive right off
17:35rip.
17:35>> When he when he came at you, you were
17:37already out of your truck.
17:38>> Yeah. Like I don't know if I was out of
17:39the truck halfway or just in the in all
17:41the way. Like I know that he came up to
17:43me. The door was open though. My door
17:44was was open. You know what I'm saying?
17:46And that was it. Cuz I ain't going to
17:48lie to you. I think I'm not looking at
17:49him in the eyes like how I'm looking at
17:50you. I did look at him and see like he
17:53looked down. You know what I'm saying?
17:55Because he been in my truck plenty of
17:56times. I keep my firearm literally on
17:58the door. You know what I'm saying? So
18:00he end up looking down and then that's
18:02when that's when that [ __ ] escalated
18:04then where he was just like, "Oh, I do."
18:06I'm like, "Bro, this is just because you
18:09see it. It's it was in it was in a
18:11holster and everything. All safety and
18:12the whole nine." You know what I'm
18:14saying? What kind of what kind of gun
18:15you
18:15>> um I carry a uh what is it? Millennium
18:17G2 Taurus.
18:19>> Yeah, Millennium G2 Taurus or whatever,
18:20you know.
18:21>> And you keep it in a holster.
18:22>> It was in a holster. I got a Blade Tech
18:23holster, you know what I'm saying? Um
18:26you know, the one that you ain't got to
18:27worry about the screws or whatever, the
18:28tensioning or nothing of that nature at
18:30all. And like I said, literally was on
18:32the door, you know, right then and
18:33there. But once that situation got
18:35abrupt or whatever like that, that's
18:37when I was like, "Shit, you going to
18:38have me out here looking crazy?"
18:40>> So he looks down, he sees, he knows you
18:42got your gun.
18:44But you didn't have your gun at that
18:45point?
18:45>> No, sir.
18:46>> Okay. No sir.
18:47>> So, so what happens now?
18:49>> Um, now after that situation ended up
18:52happening, like I said, I pretty much
18:53like, you know what I'm saying? I kind
18:54of like black because went black because
18:56she started yelling or whatever. But
18:58what I'm thinking was what what it is
19:00that I'm sitting in the thing and he's
19:02like, "Oh, I got something for your
19:04that's what it was. I got something for
19:05your ass or whatever." And I was just
19:07like, "Oh, really?
19:10>> Exactly. Let me just go put it right
19:11here on my waistline." You know what I'm
19:13saying? And that's what I went and did
19:14cuz I have every right to do so. I put
19:16mine on my waistline which he didn't see
19:18though. You see what I'm saying? It
19:19wasn't like I'm like, "Okay, I got my
19:21[ __ ] and I'm going to, you know, so I
19:22put it there and that's when I had to
19:24draw because he went to go start
19:25reaching or whatever." You know what I'm
19:27saying? For [ __ ] And I'm like, "Oh my
19:28goodness." And we end up getting in the
19:31tussle. Well, I'm sorry. We end up
19:32getting in the tussle. That's what it
19:33was. I'm sorry. So, he went to go and do
19:35the reaching. He started swinging on me
19:37or whatever. And then that's when, you
19:39know, he got fired. Did you grab him out
19:42of the truck when he was reaching?
19:43>> No, sir. Okay.
19:44>> No, sir. I never even walked into his
19:46truck or whatever, like any way, shape,
19:48or form. You know what I'm saying? I
19:49know casual doctor. I'm not f to do that
19:51[ __ ] You know what I'm saying? Like I'm
19:53not going to ever
19:53>> So, where were you guys at based on
19:56where your trucks are parked?
19:58>> In the middle of them.
19:59>> You're in between the two trucks?
20:00>> In between the two trucks right there,
20:01sir.
20:01>> Okay. And that's where you guys started
20:03tustling. You're both grabbing on each
20:04other.
20:05>> Yes, sir.
20:05>> Okay. And you throwing punches back and
20:07forth?
20:08>> Yeah. I actually grabbed him behind the
20:09truck, which I don't even know how the
20:10hell you get behind the white of his
20:12truck. Behind his truck.
20:13>> Yeah, cuz you look at the scene. His
20:15necklace is mom necklace is laid behind
20:17there. You see what I'm saying? Right in
20:18that area or whatever right then and
20:20there. And oh, that's why cuz we started
20:22back there. Then he started to swing.
20:24You're not going to swing on me. I try
20:25to get in an open area because my back
20:27was up against something. And then
20:28that's when we came out to that area
20:30right there. And I literally I'm with
20:32the left hand trying to control him. You
20:33know what I'm saying? The best I can or
20:35whatever. But he just swinging away.
20:37twinkling away and I'm just like damn
20:39man. And I thought something cut me but
20:41I didn't know what it was. You know what
20:43I'm saying? So like I had got hit right
20:44there and I'm [clears throat] just like
20:46and then that's where all all said and
20:48roll and he's a brand new crop shoot.
20:50Like [clears throat] I literally was in
20:51a tussle with this dude. Look, I got a
20:53hole on the side like I'm homeless. So
20:55>> why you guys are
20:58>> Were you punching back on him?
21:00>> I did not I did not be able to swing
21:01because I had I had at the time I had
21:03the cell phone in my left hand when I
21:05was on the phone with John.
21:06>> [clears throat]
21:07>> So you came out with John on the phone.
21:09>> Yeah, I was Yeah, correct. I was
21:11>> still trying to hold on to your phone.
21:13>> Yeah.
21:13>> F him off.
21:16>> You guys get out to the parking lot.
21:20>> You left-handed or right-handed?
21:21>> I am right-handed.
21:22>> Right handed.
21:23>> Okay. So then you took a shot,
21:25>> correct?
21:26>> Okay.
21:29>> Right-handed shooter on take it.
21:30>> Yeah, rightanded shoot.
21:31>> Got John on
21:32>> cuz it was it was a close quarter shot.
21:33I'm It just I stood up. I'mma standing
21:36up or whatever, you know what I'm
21:37saying, in the situation. He's right
21:39here and he just steadily swinging. So,
21:42I drew my weapon up here, brought it out
21:44and just two shots, you know what I'm
21:45saying? Like I said, my [ __ ] went to
21:47jam. I went to go and figure it out what
21:49was going on or whatever, but he
21:51steadily literally while he on the
21:53ground, I'm going to [ __ ] kill you.
21:55I'm like, man, [ __ ] You know what
21:57I'm saying? Cuz I don't know what you
21:58have on you, right?
21:59>> I don't know. I don't know if you have a
22:01firearm in any way, shape, or form. You
22:02know what I'm saying? All I do is see
22:04this black cell phone here laying there
22:06and I'm just like damn man. And that was
22:09all she wrote.
22:09>> Gun jams.
22:10>> I cleared back. Yep. Got it back to work
22:13again. I fire another shot or whatever
22:15was to let him stay down. And that's
22:17when the guy that the guy in the blue
22:19shirt I did notice he runs over or
22:21whatever and he's trying to help. I'm
22:23like, "Bro, don't touch him." You know,
22:24cuz I don't know like you know like the
22:26whole suing of the thing. I like and he
22:28don't he may not know what he's doing. I
22:29like let EMS handle the situation. But
22:32then when I went to go touch him on the
22:34shoulder during the situation, he's
22:36like, "Get the [ __ ] off of me."
22:38>> But like I told the Leo that was here
22:40earlier and I noticed as soon as the
22:42situation happened, trash family member
22:44came up there and um they immediately
22:47went to go talk to him. Now I thought
22:49back or whatever as me being a barber
22:50and seeing he's family with them.
22:53>> Mhm.
22:53>> You see what I'm saying? So, like I
22:56don't know how he's related or where
22:57he's at with that part, but it just like
22:59I said, he's family with them because as
23:01soon as those two females came there,
23:02instead of seeing about my age, they ran
23:05right over to him directly to him. And I
23:07know
23:08>> that the the guy he was wearing black
23:10shorts
23:11>> No, he had blue uh No, no, no. The guy
23:13that called in with the all blue on and
23:15the blue had the white guy.
23:17>> Yeah.
23:17>> Yeah. that that guy they ran directly to
23:19him cuz he went and called everybody and
23:22told them hey skinny shot trash or savo
23:25you see what I'm saying that's why they
23:27was able to get to the scene and that's
23:28why I told him that that's why I was
23:29trying to tell the guy like man please
23:31get me in this car cuz I don't know what
23:33them guys are going to do
23:34>> you know what I mean like
23:35>> so that was when he was still walking
23:38back over to where TR was
23:41>> you told him to step back Yeah.
23:47>> Yes. And I was just trying to tell them
23:49or whatever like, "Hey, someone got
23:50shot." You know what I'm saying? Like,
23:54>> correct. As well. You know what I'm
23:55saying? They're trying to figure out.
23:56And they were trying to tell him like,
23:57"Oh, could he be, you know, like can you
23:59do any, you know, chest this and this,
24:01that, and the other." And I'm trying to
24:02tell him like, "Don't do that. Don't
24:04roll him over." But like I said, with
24:06that situation, he was pissed. You know
24:08what I'm saying? that I shot one of the
24:10family members or whatever out of
24:11self-defense and he was just like, "Get
24:14the [ __ ] off me." I said, "Bro, I'm I'm
24:15going to walk away."
24:16>> How is he related to trash?
24:17>> That I have no idea because they got
24:19mixed family, you know, black and white
24:20everybody, you know, nowadays. But,
24:23>> um, I have no idea to be honest. It's it
24:25got to be down to family tree. I do know
24:27that they are just because of the simple
24:29fact of, you know, seeing as the
24:31timeline and they're not thinking back
24:33in the day whenever like he used to
24:34bring the boys in for a haircut. His
24:36sister is dating somebody from Crystal
24:39River that's black or whatever, you
24:41know, like I said, some Travon Shanti
24:43guy or whatever. I don't know how to
24:44pronounce the guy name per se.
24:46>> Okay. [snorts]
24:48>> Um,
24:51you said going back just a little bit,
24:54you said Tr was looking in his in his
24:56truck. Yes.
24:57>> Did he ever come out with anything
24:59>> that I wouldn't let him I wouldn't even
25:01let him come out with anything.
25:02>> Okay.
25:02>> You know what I'm saying?
25:03>> You didn't see him with a a gun or a
25:05knife or something?
25:06>> You know what I'm saying? Only thing I
25:07saw was just like I said, he had
25:09something black in his hand. And then
25:10like I said, once all that whole
25:12incident and everything, it dropped and
25:14it was a cell phone that slid. You know
25:16what I'm saying? Like that
25:17>> and that was it. And then whenever the
25:19cell phone slid, I kind of like, you
25:20know, kicked it off to the side away
25:22from where he was at. You know what I
25:24mean? like that situation and then
25:26that's when I clear
25:29and put the mag I don't know if I left
25:30it on the floorboard or the seat, you
25:32know what I mean?
25:33>> So, you cleared you cleared your
25:35>> Yeah, I took everything out.
25:36>> You cleared it up, set it down on the
25:37ground, sir. Set the mag off to the
25:39side.
25:39>> Yes, sir.
25:40>> Okay.
25:40>> Yes, sir.
25:42>> Like I said, that wasn't my intention in
25:43any way, shape, or form, whatever. It
25:45literally, you know, me defending myself
25:47or whatever with the situation. I wasn't
25:49in I wasn't leaving from Starbucks to be
25:51like, "Yeah, I'm going to get buddy."
25:52No, sir. none of that in any way, shape,
25:55or form. It's just simply just to have a
25:57conversation and find out what was going
25:59on prior couple of days ago. You know
26:02what I'm saying? And why my name is
26:03being brought up to something because
26:05I've been I've been trying to get a like
26:07to be real with you, I've been trying to
26:08get with this girl for a long, long
26:10time. You know,
26:11>> how's this girl related to
26:13>> the girl is actually which y'all
26:15probably know is Jakey. um her her baby
26:18daddy, you know, and I'm thinking low
26:21key that he may have been the one that
26:23sent the text message either way. But
26:24the thing is is he didn't know. He was
26:27never home. Like I could even show on
26:29camera. He was never home to see that
26:31she came to my house.
26:32>> The only person that knew that she came
26:34to my house was trash.
26:36>> Okay.
26:37>> You see what I'm saying? And then they
26:38got brought and then he get the guy gets
26:41home at 12:00 at night. This girl been
26:44gone for at least 6 hours. Mhm.
26:46>> You know what I'm saying?
26:49Soon as the little girl soon as the
26:51little girl goes into the house and
26:52falls asleep and I text her and let her
26:53know that the little girl fell asleep,
26:55that's when um her him and TR had been
26:58talking and conversating about her being
27:00the baby mama being at the house and it
27:02became an issue, you know. So then
27:06that's when I got that text message or
27:08whatever that stated you [ __ ] with
27:10the wrong one because there's no other
27:13guy that would send that message and
27:15either the baby mama I mean the baby
27:17that's the only person just the baby
27:19daddy that's it literally would be the
27:21only one that sent that text message.
27:22You know Trash wouldn't send that text
27:24message but Trash would give him that
27:26information to say that. you know, just
27:29like he's g just like he gave her and I
27:31can show him the text message the
27:32information because I was I literally
27:34I'm telling you every morning we sitting
27:35there and smoke I literally sat here and
27:37said, "Man, you know, I want to [ __ ]
27:39this girl or whatever, you know, but her
27:40rain camera I tried to park off to the
27:42side so her rain camera wouldn't catch
27:44me." You know what I mean? Cuz girls
27:45will do that. They they got this little
27:46app like don't [ __ ] with these guys or
27:48whatever, you know, and it know what it
27:50is. But and I didn't care nothing about
27:52it. But I also had a girlfriend at the
27:54time that I was getting ready to break
27:56up with and I didn't want the [ __ ] to
27:57get out there. You know what I'm saying?
27:58So I'm like, damn, bro. Like, you know,
28:00you went and sat here. You know what I'm
28:02saying? Like, you know, when it broke
28:03broke code and told everybody on the
28:05street.
28:05>> Who Who is John?
28:07>> John um is,
28:09>> you know, his last name.
28:09>> Estz.
28:11>> Estz.
28:12>> Estz. He is uh Mickey Dixon
28:14brother-in-law. Uh he's one of my
28:17>> co-owners.
28:18>> Okay. And he was on the phone. Was he at
28:20work?
28:20>> No, he wasn't at work. He was at the
28:21house.
28:22>> He was at the house.
28:22>> Yeah, he was at the house.
28:24>> Um,
28:25>> and I I was calling him about that
28:26information about the the the the
28:29weekend thing or whatever. I was calling
28:30him about that.
28:31>> So, all the texts that you've been
28:34talking about are are in your phone
28:36right now.
28:36>> Yes, sir.
28:38>> Would you consent to let us download
28:40those?
28:41>> Hell yeah.
28:42>> Okay. What's the What's the passcode for
28:46your phone?
28:47>> 2048.
28:55So, we brought we brought your phone
28:57over here.
28:58>> That's fine.
28:58>> They're they can do it in an office
29:00right here. I get you a a consent form
29:03which you can send to us downloading
29:04your phone.
29:05>> Yeah. Yeah. I mean, don't look at the
29:07video. You know what I'm saying? But
29:08other, you know,
29:11this information that you're you're
29:13giving us.
29:14>> Um
29:14>> Yeah. Cuz I saved it. I saved it and I
29:16even screenshotted and sent it to that
29:18girl. The girl don't got nothing to do
29:20with it. We just trying to be in a
29:21relationship together. You know what I'm
29:23saying?
29:23>> But like
29:25>> somebody else I got to talk to,
29:27>> like John, we got to talk to now. I got
29:29to go to Starbucks and and talk to them
29:31so I could make sure we're looking at
29:33all the same stuff. And you're telling
29:34me all this information is in your
29:35phone.
29:36>> If you if you consent to let me do that,
29:38we can get that taken care of while
29:40you're still sitting here. And that way
29:41if you decide that, hey, I don't want to
29:43do that no more.
29:45>> No, no, no, no, no. I I want y'all to
29:46see that because like I said, I really
29:48I'm I'm still nervous. That's the reason
29:50why I made sure that my daughters got
29:52out of that house, right?
29:53>> You know what I'm saying? After this
29:54situation because it was so fast and
29:56weird how trash people were the only
29:59ones to find out that that situation
30:01happened. You see what I'm saying?
30:03That's why I was worried. I was just
30:05like, "Oh no, please just get my
30:06daughters out of that house." Okay? You
30:08know, [snorts]
30:08>> sit tight. Let me get a four real quick.
30:11>> Okay.
30:12>> And I'll be right back.
30:13>> Okay.
30:13>> You good?
30:14>> Yeah. You're good.
30:15um
30:17he's got more information. We were all
30:19over the place this morning and so I was
30:21working on person and they called and
30:23asked for some help.
30:24>> Yeah, I know. I heard over the thing,
30:25but
30:26>> I'm kind of not clear. I'm more clear
30:28now what happened, but um
30:31>> the only question I had was in between
30:35the shots. So, you said he went digging
30:37in his truck, right?
30:39>> And then that's when you put your gun in
30:41your waistband.
30:41>> Yeah. when he went in the first door,
30:43the first like when he went back to his
30:45thing cuz he came up to me, you know
30:47what I'm saying? And said, "I punch you
30:48in your [ __ ] face." Then he went back
30:50to his truck. You see what I'm saying?
30:52So,
30:52>> and when he came up to you, he said he
30:54punched you in your face. Didn't say
30:56anything else.
30:57>> No. He's like, "I punch you in your
30:58[ __ ] face or whatever. You try me
30:59like that." I'm like, "I didn't try
31:01you." That's exactly what I just said.
31:02Like, literally, I'm just like, "I did
31:04not try you nonchalantly." But like I
31:06said, prior service me paying attention
31:07to my surroundings. You went you went
31:10and turned your back on me. So, I don't
31:11know if you went and just scooped
31:13something in there or whatever the case
31:15is. And he kept trying to scurry around
31:16the back of the truck or whatever, you
31:18know, like the side of it so that way I
31:20couldn't see. And I'm like, uh-uh. So,
31:22then we end up getting into it. Like, he
31:24approaches me and we get into the fight.
31:26And like I said, we so close that I
31:28don't know what the hell's going on. You
31:30know what I'm saying? Like, I really
31:32don't know what's going on at all. But
31:34besides the swinging part, you know what
31:35I mean? Cuz I'm trying to really try to
31:37keep the distance, but I'm also trying
31:38to see what the hell he's trying to do.
31:40You know what I'm saying? In that
31:41situation. And then that's whenever he
31:43went to go. I'm like, "Oh, hell no." Cuz
31:45I saw I literally looked to see him. I'm
31:46like, "Oh, he look like he going to
31:48reach." And I'm like, "I can't I can't
31:50sit there."
31:51>> Did you have a hold of him when you when
31:52you fired the first one?
31:53>> Yes. Yes. The first two shots I had a
31:55hold of him
31:56>> with your left hand.
31:57>> With my left hand on his shirt?
31:58>> Yeah. The shirt.
32:00>> He's wearing two shirts. He always wears
32:01a white shirt in the back and then he
32:02had his brand shirt of the business in
32:05the front at that time. And then uh so
32:10the first two you had a hold of him.
32:12>> Gun in the right hand. Yes.
32:14>> Pulled from the waistband.
32:15>> Correct.
32:16>> Bang. Bang. Pretty quick.
32:17>> Correct. I whenever I was in the
32:19service, they tried to call the control
32:21pair. So I just did a few shoot shots
32:22and then I tried to see what happened
32:24after that.
32:24>> How close I mean was it like full arm
32:28length? Did you Was it close up on him?
32:30>> It was close up on him. It was close up
32:31on him. Yeah, it was close shots or
32:33whatever. You know what I'm saying? Cuz
32:33like I said, I felt threatened. That
32:34dude sitting there swinging on me like
32:36that. I'm like, "Oh, no."
32:37>> Yeah.
32:37>> You know what I'm saying? That was too
32:38close or whatever. Because any
32:40situation, you and I both know if he did
32:42have a knife or weapon on him, it could
32:44have been me. You know what I'm saying?
32:46If he didn't have the proper training or
32:47whatever at all. But, you know, I'm
32:50prior service, so I just knew what to do
32:51and what to expect and what to do to
32:53protect myself. And I wasn't going to
32:55sit there and just let, you know, that
32:57type of thing happened where he pulls
32:58out a knife with a gun and now he's
33:01slinging it and I'm now I'm I'm messed
33:03up, you know?
33:03>> Right. And so you fire the two rounds.
33:07>> What happens? Did does he does he go
33:09down immediately?
33:10>> He went down not immediately. He he held
33:13his chest for a second and he gets ready
33:15to come back at me towards again or
33:17whatever. You know, like I said,
33:18literally coming back towards me again.
33:20He falls down to the ground. Boom. Now
33:22he's down onto the ground and he's like
33:24trying to get up and he's like, I'mma
33:25[ __ ] kill you. And I'm just like,
33:27man. And I'm just like, that's it's
33:28[ __ ] you know? I wouldn't let my
33:30round go. But it was all It wasn't like
33:33I'm I want you to notice. It ain't like
33:35shoot. That's Wait, wait, wait, wait,
33:37wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait,
33:38wait. And they shot again. You know what
33:40I'm saying? That's what I'm trying to
33:42say. I shot cleared quick, you know what
33:44I'm saying? Protocol bump, you know,
33:45cleared and then I shot and then that's
33:47when it jammed again, and I was like,
33:48"Oh shit." So then that's when I dropped
33:51the mag. And then I went ahead and
33:53dumped, you know, charged it back,
33:55cleared it, made sure there was nothing
33:56in there at all, and then that was it.
33:57And then I saw the dude walking around,
33:59and I told him to stay away, which is
34:01the guy in the blue shirt. That's the
34:03reason why we more or less started
34:04talking because he was trying to walk
34:06around the whole scene thing and I'm
34:08like, "Bro, just stay away." You know
34:09what I'm saying? Cuz like I already took
34:11my my weapon apart, you know? So, I'm
34:14just like, "Just stay away." You know
34:15what I'm saying?
34:18>> Because I didn't want them to just be
34:19like, "Oh, coming up there all guns
34:22blazing." Like, I was literally going to
34:23even lay on the ground. You know what
34:24I'm saying? Like,
34:25>> so what I'm trying to understand is so
34:26is two shots he went down. You said your
34:28gun jammed.
34:29>> Yes.
34:29>> And you had to you had to fix the jam.
34:31Mhm.
34:32>> And so you got the jam fixed
34:34>> and fired.
34:35>> Correct.
34:35>> One more.
34:36>> Yes.
34:36>> How far was he when you fired that
34:38third?
34:39>> I was still in the same spot.
34:40>> How far was he from you?
34:42>> About I don't know. Probably from about
34:44me to you. I would probably say give or
34:45take or whatever. Right then and there.
34:46You know what I'm saying? Give or take.
34:48>> And how long did it take you to fix your
34:50jam?
34:50>> No, it didn't take that long.
34:52>> Quick from training.
34:53>> Yeah, it's quick from training.
34:54>> Did stoke pipe on you? What happened?
34:57>> No, it literally it did stow pipe.
34:59Right. Um, I think what happened is
35:01since I was telling the guy it been I
35:03don't know how many years I've had that
35:04fired around for. So depending on what
35:07magazine that I grabbed that morning to
35:09throw in there, you know what I'm
35:10saying? It could have been like the the
35:11the rounds being not been flushed up
35:13against the back to smoothly go through.
35:14And it's a Taurus, so it wasn't feeding
35:17that the best or whatever. You know what
35:18I mean? Like I don't know when the last
35:20time I order that bad boy. Like I said,
35:22man, I never really thought that I would
35:24ever have to use a firearm here. You
35:27know what I'm saying? on US soil, but at
35:29the same token, you know, it did happen.
35:31You know what I'm saying? And it sucked
35:33or whatever, you know, because God
35:35forbid if he did have one, I would have
35:37been messed up as well, too, because
35:38mine jam mine jammed after two shots,
35:41you know what I'm saying? And then I'm
35:42just like I was screwed after that.
35:44>> Yeah.
35:45>> So, yeah, that's the only thing. But
35:48like I said, I try I try to clear as
35:49fast as possible and just just like I
35:51say, I'm literally just neutralizing the
35:52threat or whatever. you know, you still
35:54steadily telling me that you going to
35:55sit here and kill me or whatever. And
35:57that was it. And after I took that shot,
35:59I wasn't going to sit there and go clear
36:01it again and they keep shooting,
36:02shooting, shooting until all of the
36:03rounds were gone, you know? I just like
36:05I'm just that's it,
36:06>> you know? And I literally cleared it and
36:08put it up.
36:09>> And so
36:12prior to this, you had a pretty cordial
36:14relationship with him, right?
36:15>> Every day, man, you guys hung out,
36:18>> bro. Every day we used to go to the
36:19flower. That's why I never understood
36:21it. I'm I could show it in the messages,
36:22bro. We like I don't think the messaging
36:24would say where I said that, hey, we've
36:27been friends for so long, but it may
36:28have. You know what I'm saying? But I'm
36:30just like, bro, we smoke every single
36:32day together, bro. We wrote the fobers
36:35together with each other. You know what
36:36I'm saying? And for you to sit back here
36:39and just all I wanted to know was
36:40whether or not if you told the new girl
36:42that I'm trying to get with that I slept
36:45with Britney, that was it. Even if you
36:48just said, "Yeah, I [laughter] wasn't
36:49going to fight you because of that. I
36:51just wanted to know. You know what I'm
36:53saying? Because words going around
36:55saying that you said this and you said
36:57that and I'm just like, bro, I just
36:58wanted to know. Simple. But when you
37:01immediately getting all agitated and I'm
37:03just like, you know, in the back of my
37:05mind, man, I'm like it just like
37:09it just ridiculous. You know what I'm
37:11saying?
37:12>> So, do you think he was trying to get
37:13that girl?
37:14>> No, no, no, no, no. He has he has a
37:16whole family or whatever. He was just
37:18giving the information to that that dude
37:20that [clears throat] sent that message
37:21saying that he was going to shoot my
37:22house up.
37:23>> And do you think he's like good friends
37:24with that guy?
37:25>> Oh no, they real good friends. They Man,
37:27I'm keep it real with you and everybody
37:28know it. The well-known drug dealer.
37:30>> You didn't when you were telling Tras
37:32you were trying to get with her. You
37:34didn't know
37:35>> that he was good friends.
37:37>> Correct. Like that. You see what I'm
37:38saying? And then he went back and that's
37:40why I said I put two and two together
37:42because I'm like the only person I
37:44talked to about this girl and I'm
37:45excited, you know? I was like, "Damn,
37:46bro." like look, you know what I'm
37:47saying? She just sent me a bathing suit
37:49photo like and down there and he was
37:52happy. He was, but I guess that was a
37:54cover up until what's the new girl's
37:58name?
37:58>> Uh, her name is Amanda Nelson.
38:01But like I said, she ain't got nothing
38:02to do with it. She just, you know what
38:04I'm saying? She been trying to get with
38:06>> No. And and it's I'm not trying to drag
38:09more people into it. We verify your
38:11story. Make everything makes sense.
38:13>> And where does she live? Close to you.
38:15Citrus Hills.
38:16>> Okay.
38:17>> She lives far, but what she did was she
38:19just, you know, was she in the midst of
38:20going to R cuz I think she works in
38:21Leburg. So, she a pass through. She
38:24passes through Citrus County. So, like
38:27when we first started talking, we'll
38:29meet each other up in the morning. I go
38:30get coffee at Papa J every morning.
38:32Every morning. You know what I'm saying?
38:33Cuz I be trying to go in there and shake
38:34hands with those peoples. And then this
38:37time, she had to go work um later on in
38:41the night shift because she picked up an
38:43extra shift for bills. You know what I'm
38:44saying? So that was the only reason why
38:46she came to my house. But when she
38:47walked across the street to the guy's
38:50house, the way she dropped off the
38:51little girl, he was still sitting
38:53outside seeing everything like, you
38:55know, I'm I'm looking through the
38:56window. I didn't go outside. I ain't
38:57stupid. You know what I'm saying? I was
38:59just like, "Damn, man, she coming over
39:00here. I don't want my neighbors to be
39:01like, damn, it's another female like
39:02within a week." That's the real reason
39:04why I didn't walk outside. So I let her
39:06come inside, you know? And then they
39:09were That's when I'm telling you, man,
39:11like I said, I literally It was just a
39:12crazy timeline. As soon as I seen him
39:14come home at 12:00, 12 12:30, which is
39:16the baby daddy, then right after that,
39:19I'm they talked. You know, there's no
39:21way that Tra would never talk because I
39:23didn't go over there and tell tell you
39:25that she was here. You see what I'm
39:26saying? And he didn't even know that
39:28that little girl was even staying in the
39:30house.
39:31>> So, how long ago was that?
39:32>> I said that probably what Sunday.
39:35>> Probably like Sunday or something.
39:36>> And she came to your house.
39:37>> Yeah, she came to my house. She parked
39:38in my She parked in my driveway and just
39:40walked across the street to go drop a
39:41little girl off though.
39:43>> So she knows somebody across the street.
39:44>> Yeah. With that's her baby daddy.
39:46>> Okay.
39:46>> The baby daddy is the one that's across
39:48the street. Like I said, and that's why
39:49he said what he said when he was like,
39:50you know, you [ __ ] with the wrong
39:52one. Uh, you're [ __ ] with mine or
39:54whatever. And then he went and said to
39:56her, uh, or said to me, we can go
39:59thought forthought. Meaning like he
40:01wanted to [ __ ] my recent ex, which I
40:03don't care, you know, and or um, you can
40:06get your house sprayed. And then that's
40:07when I responded back, who is this? And
40:09I said, I just said like, you know, why
40:11are we talking about shooting up a house
40:13knowing that my children live in here?
40:15You know what I'm saying? And over a
40:17female. And I clear as they put on
40:18there, you [ __ ] up. You know what I'm
40:20saying? I'm going to be at alert at all
40:22times now. You know what I'm saying? You
40:23literally sit there and say that you
40:24going to hurt me and I'm going be at
40:26alert. But I didn't I I was going to go
40:28and talk to the guy across the street
40:29the next day, but he wakes up so early
40:31because he he got the international egg
40:33roll place that's over there posted up
40:35in older. uh he leaves to go pick up his
40:37trailer and the whole night. So I didn't
40:38get a chance to talk to him face to
40:40face. But I do in my heart feel as if
40:42they you're the only one that would have
40:44sent that message. There's no other
40:46person
40:46>> follow.
40:47>> You know what I'm saying?
40:48>> But it's not Do you got Trasy's number
40:50in your phone?
40:50>> I got Trasy's number in my phone.
40:52>> That wasn't Tr that sent that message.
40:53>> No, sir. It was from a totally different
40:55number and we actually tried to call it
40:56and then we Googled the number and it
40:58came back to a black chick in like Miami
41:00or whatever. So, they may have to use
41:02one of them like uh talk to talk apps or
41:05whatever you want that thing.
41:07>> What What kind of
41:09>> What kind of phone you got?
41:10>> iPhone 12.
41:21I don't know why I'm squinting.
41:23All right. Let's slide over seat real
41:25quick. We sit next to you and we'll go
41:28quickly real quick.
41:35All right. What it says is Dwan D. Ross
41:39hereby authorized get permission to me,
41:41Detective Sling, identify themselves for
41:44law enforcement officer with the
41:46investigations of computer forensic
41:47examiner to make a full and complete
41:49search of your cell phone computer. It's
41:52not we're just doing the cell phone.
41:53Okay. Related materials located here.
41:55Sheriff's office. That's our address
41:58related to this case number for our
41:59investigation. All right. Uh you have
42:02been advised by the above law
42:04enforcement officer. Law enforcement
42:05officers are engaged in investigation
42:06concerning alleged violation federal and
42:09or state laws. I do further authorize
42:11and give information permission to take
42:12away. I'm not taking anything from your
42:14residents, your computers. I'm not
42:16taking any of that.
42:20Anything of value or relevance in this
42:21investigation understanding items taken.
42:23I'm not taking any items. Just looking
42:26at the data that's on your phone right
42:28now. Okay. iPhone 12. I'm going to go in
42:31here and look at your serial number.
42:33>> Okay, that's fine.
42:36>> All right. Above law enforcement officer
42:38has fully and fairly advise you of your
42:40rights as follows. That you have the
42:41right to refuse consent to this search
42:42of this property. You have the right to
42:44consult with an attorney or any other
42:45person of your choice prior to giving
42:47this consent and permission to search
42:49the above
42:51iPhone. that any of the computers,
42:54computer peripherals, related media
42:55found by said officers in the course of
42:57their search can be used against you or
42:59others in court login. We're not doing
43:00computers, just your cell phone. I fully
43:03understand and appreciate these rights
43:05and wish to be specifically understood
43:06that I am hereby giving consent and
43:08permission to conduct the search of the
43:10cellular telephone, not the other items,
43:13solely because of my desire to freely
43:15and voluntarily cooperate with this
43:16investigation. I have not been promised
43:18or persuaded in any way, nor has any
43:21inducement of any kind been held out to
43:23me in return for this consent and
43:25permission to search. You understand all
43:27that?
43:27>> Yeah.
43:28>> Just sign right there for me.
43:32>> Good. I just
43:41my hair, right, is not the best. I just
43:43cut hair.
43:45>> How long you been cutting hair? M
43:50>> at least 23 23 years. Yeah. 23 years to
43:53be exact.
43:54>> I'm 35. So I picked them up at a young
43:57age on their own.
44:00>> All right.
44:02>> So are these regular text messages?
44:03>> Yes, sir. You can hit right there.
44:05>> And you're messaging app.
44:06>> Now, um slide up.
44:09Um you're going to go to That's Savo. So
44:12that's one right there. But I want you
44:13to see the one where it shows the buddy
44:16was sitting there. Okay. Here we go.
44:18Right there. The 51.
44:19>> The 56.
44:20>> 561. Yes.
44:21>> All right.
44:25>> All right. You playing a game of mine.
44:29We can go.
44:31>> Yeah.
44:33Get your house freaked out.
44:35>> You don't know who that who that number
44:37is?
44:37>> No, sir. Like I said, I was literally
44:39sleeping. You see the timeline? I was
44:40knocked out and then I went to go to the
44:42bathroom at 3:00 only just because my
44:44neighbors had made a little bit of noise
44:46and then I'm like, you know,
44:47>> right?
44:48>> Who the hell is this?
44:54Okay.
44:56So, [snorts] that was
44:58You say that was this one right here?
45:00>> Yes, sir. And then Savos is up.
45:03>> Now, who's Savo?
45:04>> Savo is his street name is Savo, but his
45:07name is Tras.
45:08>> Okay. So, this is this is TR.
45:10>> Yes.
45:11>> All right. That's You mind if I scroll
45:12back through?
45:13>> Yeah, you could. You're perfectly fine.
45:14That's that's I don't know if that was
45:15See, right here, this is where I was
45:16going to get ready to start texting him
45:18and say, you know, my fault for stepping
45:20up and feeding your niece um when your
45:23brother did not uh have food in this
45:25house at all and letting my daughters
45:27walk down the road to play with her. She
45:29didn't even have anywhere to play with.
45:31Um, the little girl did not actually be
45:33brought into this world and I was going
45:34to continue to put on there to say like,
45:36you know, I'm just, you know, helping.
45:38That was literally it. You know what I
45:40mean? But this is where it was at this
45:41morning right here. If you go up, you
45:43going
45:43>> That was this before you saw him at
45:47>> Yeah, this is before I saw him at
45:48Starbucks. Okay. I didn't want, you know
45:50what I'm saying? Cuz I thought that he
45:51may have been bothered by it because,
45:53you know, his niece was at my house.
45:56That why I feel like that would have
45:57been a thing that put him over the top.
45:58But if you keep going up,
46:01>> that's my that's my text message in the
46:02booth. So they're from today.
46:03>> This is from today. When is this from?
46:05>> That's not from today.
46:07>> That's from
46:09Yeah. You want to go to today?
46:10>> No, no problem. On I see these are
46:12Friday messages. No problem.
46:13>> No, no, no, no, no. Honestly, you can
46:15look at it. It's funny because he
46:16thought that the police was watching
46:18him.
46:18>> You know what I'm saying?
46:20I'm getting some
46:24seconds.
46:27call you real quick.
46:28>> Mhm.
46:29>> Okay.
46:30>> And I said, I think so because I'm just
46:32I was just [ __ ] with him. Like I cuz
46:34he called Nick and personally I don't
46:36care whether or not you getting watched
46:37by the police.
46:38>> Right. Okay. So this is 9:00 9:09.
46:41>> Mhm. There you go.
46:44Now we was on the phone chitchatting
46:46beforehand, you know, waiting.
46:48>> So this is this is after you guys are
46:50talking.
46:51>> No, this morning. This is on my way back
46:53from picking up dropping off Liam. She
46:55has 909 right here. I'm on my way back
46:58from dropping off Liam when I received a
47:00text message from uh the girl Amanda,
47:04you know, and I was like, "Well, damn.
47:05Let me just go and call Buddy really
47:07quick, you know, to see what's going
47:08on." And then I'm on the phone talking
47:10to him. I said, "Hey, man. You know,
47:11I've been with you, friends, for a long
47:13time. I just want to know what's going
47:14on, you know, blah blah blah. Man, you a
47:16[ __ ] nigga." Hung up the phone. I'm
47:19like, "That's kind of weird." You know
47:21what I'm saying? And that's where he
47:23texted was just like, you know what I'm
47:24saying? That he don't play whole games.
47:26And I just responded back and told him,
47:27I just said that I'm not trying to do
47:29this. I really honestly not. It's just a
47:31simple question.
47:32>> So you say you're on your way to to your
47:34shop right now
47:36cuz this is ridiculous.
47:39So So you already you're on your way to
47:43go?
47:43>> No, I'm on my way to go home. Okay.
47:45>> And then that's when I end up just like
47:46coming through the thing and I saw him
47:48like I'm literally on my way home. You
47:50know what I'm saying? That was just it.
47:52Sometimes I drive by and check on my
47:54barber shop, but I didn't at that time I
47:55didn't have time to do that. You bring
47:57back Nick?
47:58>> Yeah. You all done?
47:59>> Yeah. So,
48:04>> all right.
48:06>> So, you were going
48:14this morning.
48:17You were heading home from Ocala. Mhm.
48:23And then you see Tras at Starbucks.
48:26>> Not see him. I ain't see him. And then
48:28like, oh [ __ ] he's right there. Let me
48:29pull in. I'm just on my way home. You
48:32know what I'm saying? That's just it. So
48:33he was coming out of Starbucks, you
48:35know? So he may have went in and got a
48:37drink because from the angle of where he
48:39came from, he would have it didn't look
48:40like he came through the drive-through
48:41line. understand.
48:43>> But e either way, so you're you're on
48:46>> Well, I just wanted to be known that I
48:48did not go like I didn't like see him
48:50over there and be like, "Oh, I'm going
48:51to go and try to conversate with him."
48:52type [ __ ] I literally just drive down
48:56the road. I mean, I turned into
48:57Starbucks or whatever right there. And
48:59that's my shortcut way to go to take the
49:01back road. You know,
49:02>> you're just cutting through Starbucks.
49:04You didn't see you just as I wasn't
49:06doing that. He's just having
49:07>> Exactly. You know what I'm saying?
49:09Because like I said, our business is
49:10right there. Like literally his business
49:12is here, my business is here, and both
49:14our apartments on the same like
49:15literally right behind there is our
49:17apartments are behind the um
49:18>> Yeah, the business.
49:19>> It's two stories
49:20>> cuz the Colonial Plonial
49:23Plaza. Yeah, Colonial Plaza. I say
49:25Colonial Pond. Yeah, but Colonial Plaza
49:27is right like literally right behind it.
49:29That's where we stay.
49:29>> Acts up to Silverwood.
49:31>> Yeah, that's where I stay on Silverwood.
49:32Yep.
49:33>> So you're using Starbucks as a cut
49:36through. So you ain't got to go all the
49:38way down around racetrack and back up
49:40>> or even to the light and then sit there
49:42at the light and make a left. You know
49:43what I mean?
49:43>> Which way were you coming from? Were you
49:44coming
49:45>> from off of Independence?
49:46>> Off Independence.
49:46>> Yeah. Coming off Independence or
49:47whatever and made that left.
49:49>> And so you were going home.
49:50>> Mhm.
49:51>> So you go past Colin A. Go past
49:53racetrack.
49:54>> Mhm.
49:54>> Go to cut through Starbucks.
49:56>> Correct.
49:57>> Which comes back out to Colin A.
49:59>> Correct.
49:59>> Okay. And then you turn down and go turn
50:02right and then make that next right.
50:03>> Is that a stop sign right there by the
50:06new apartments? Correct. Okay. Cuz
50:07that's where everybody got to stand out
50:08there. I see people standing out there
50:09all day smoking cuz they can't smoke.
50:11>> They can't smoke in their apartment.
50:12>> Correct.
50:13>> Okay. So, you you you turn, you cut
50:15through. As you're cutting through, Tra
50:18just happens to be pulling out.
50:20>> But he was in like before we before I
50:23even made it to that second colony, like
50:26like I said, soon as I turn left and I
50:27come into the apron.
50:29>> Mhm. So, I mean, like I said, I
50:31literally got half of my truck ass in on
50:34the concrete pad of the apron and the
50:36rest of it on the asphalt like that type
50:38of deal. So, it was literally right at
50:39the entrance or whatever,
50:41>> you know, but he jumped out mad
50:43aggressive, you know, or whatever. I'm
50:44like, damn, man.
50:46>> Starbucks. Yeah.
50:46>> He jumped out. He jumped out of
50:48Starbucks. Yeah.
50:48>> Now, you guys had already had the phone
50:50conversation,
50:51>> correct?
50:52>> Trying to resolve it.
50:53>> Yeah. Well, I tried I just tried to call
50:55him in.
50:56>> He started calling out or he hung up on
50:57you.
50:58>> Yeah. He said some choice words and then
51:00he hung up. I thought I lost service
51:01because I'm coming back from 200. But
51:03then when I went to go call again, he
51:05didn't answer. So then that's when I
51:07look he was mad.
51:08>> Okay. You driving and texting.
51:10>> No. No. I swear I swear to God.
51:12>> The the the text messages that we just
51:14looked at
51:15>> were after that conversation.
51:17>> Yes.
51:18>> But before you see him at Starbucks.
51:20>> Okay.
51:21>> Yes. So then
51:25you pull in. He jumped out of his truck
51:28>> at Starbucks,
51:29>> right?
51:30>> You guys had another Hey. Hey. What was
51:33he saying?
51:34>> He was saying that. He was just like,
51:35"Man, you a [ __ ] ass nigga."
51:38Specifically that you a [ __ ] ass [ __ ]
51:40You acting like these hoes out here. Go
51:42and call them [ __ ] and tell them
51:43exactly what I said. I'm like, I don't
51:45need to know exactly was said. I know
51:47what was said or whatever. You literally
51:49were the only one that was around me
51:52when I was happy that I said what I said
51:55about messing with that girl and also
51:57getting the new girl. You know what I'm
51:59saying? The only one cuz I tell you, we
52:02literally sitting there, man. We smoking
52:03for we call him the safety meeting for a
52:05whole hour.
52:06>> Mhm.
52:06>> And we just rambling, okay?
52:08>> Just chitchatting. You know, he telling
52:09me his problems about life. I'm telling
52:11him my financial problems about life. So
52:14now did
52:16>> did he say anything that he was going to
52:19get your ass terrible shot?
52:21>> Oh yeah the house right saying that
52:23right now
52:24>> not not when he was at Starbucks or
52:25whatever he was just like that. He just
52:27said man come over here and [ __ ] have
52:28a conversation with me or whatever. I
52:30said okay then. So I literally backed up
52:33went to the thing like I said soon as I
52:35pull out to the the suicide lane there's
52:37a 18-wheeler taking off them trucks or
52:39whatever. You know what I'm saying? My
52:41go Yeah. He goes in front of him though.
52:42He I ain't going to lie to you. I don't
52:43know why he did that one cuz he he's
52:45facing the semi and he he goes all the
52:48way from the semi on onto the left lane.
52:5144 drives up towards the traffic and
52:54then turns in. I'm like, "Oh, hell no.
52:55I'm not doing that." That's why I went
52:57all the way around the semi and came in
53:00because you know anybody can hit you.
53:01It's a heel. It's kind of like a heel
53:02right there.
53:04>> You know what I mean? I don't like
53:05>> So you Starbucks. Exactly. That's why I
53:07say you can store if you don't look
53:09three turns maybe you might get hit
53:11because people flying coming over that
53:13heel.
53:14>> That's common sense.
53:15>> So then yeah he pulls in back backs
53:18backs in in front of his shop.
53:20>> Mhm.
53:20>> So why why did you come in at a at a 45?
53:24>> I was just going to just have a
53:25conversation and leave. I had to get
53:26Aubrey. Like I said before I texted my
53:28daughter to get ready for school because
53:30today half a day or whatever. She wanted
53:31to go specifically today so she could
53:33know what her friends were wearing
53:35afterwards. And she was and Aubrey was
53:37still at the house.
53:37>> And Aubrey and Emmy are still at the
53:39house. My I got a high schooler and I
53:41got a kid that's getting ready to go
53:42into middle school.
53:43>> Okay. So you still have two kids at the
53:44house.
53:45>> And that's why I park like that cuz I it
53:48mean 9:00 or whatever. I always go to
53:51work like this. Okay.
53:52>> You know what I'm saying? I always wear
53:53like, you know, uniform vibes, dress up,
53:55whatever, you know, looking especially
53:56if I'm not cutting grass. But I would
53:58never wear a dress like this.
53:59>> Okay.
54:00>> You know, so
54:03you just want to have a conversation
54:04with him.
54:05>> Yeah. to finish what the conversation
54:06was.
54:07>> And I wasn't even wanting to have a
54:08conversation. He actually told me to
54:10come back to have you know what I'm
54:11saying? Yeah. I was going I literally
54:13could cut through, go drop her off
54:15because I needed to get to work. You
54:16know what I'm saying? Like on my app or
54:17whatever on my phone and you know I got
54:19a book app so people can book an
54:21appointment whenever they want to
54:23between those hours. So I literally was
54:25like, "Damn, man. I might only got like
54:2630 minutes to get here to get already,
54:28you know, do what I need to do." That's
54:30why I said I'm going to go up here and
54:31talk to bro. And I won't even tell him
54:33clear, bro. Let's let's like we going to
54:35have this conversation. You know what
54:36I'm saying? But let's run out here to
54:38the Flowery real quick. You know what
54:40I'm saying? And go get some new [ __ ] and
54:41we going to smoke and figure out what
54:42the [ __ ] really going on and then going
54:44about our marri way because like I told
54:46you, this is not the first time that a
54:48situation happened. I a show I should
54:50have showed you actually that where he
54:52actually threatened me on his part a few
54:54months back about a situation. That's I
54:56still got that too on there where he
54:57told me he said you better make sure you
54:59keep that little pee pe shooter with
55:01you. And I'm like, why would you even
55:04bring that up? Why would you even say
55:05that?
55:06>> But if when you pulled in, he jumped
55:08out,
55:11you got out or at least open your door,
55:14get out.
55:14>> Correct.
55:15>> He looks down, sees your gun in the
55:17door.
55:18>> Mhm.
55:18>> You get out, you guys start grabbing on
55:21each other.
55:22>> Yeah. Correct.
55:23>> But he went to his vehicle first,
55:25though.
55:26>> Did he go Did he go get into the driver?
55:28>> He went to He opened the driver door.
55:31You know what I'm saying? But he had his
55:31back turned to me and like I see him
55:33telling him he had his back turned to me
55:35or whatever and that's when I was just
55:36like, "Oh, hell no." Cuz I don't know
55:38what you going to have. You know what
55:39I'm saying? So I just like cuz he could
55:41have the knife, the machete, any of that
55:43stuff. He goes fishing a lot, too. I do
55:45know that much.
55:45>> So he opens his door so you go back, get
55:48your gun.
55:48>> Correct.
55:49>> Put your gun in your waistband.
55:51>> Mhm.
55:51>> Did he he didn't come out of his his
55:53truck with anything, but he closed his
55:55door?
55:56>> Um, no. He adjusted his shirt though. He
55:58did do adjusting of the shirt and I was
56:00just like I didn't know I like kind of
56:01did that number like oh [ __ ] You know
56:03what I'm saying? Like
56:05>> you know.
56:05>> So then you guys start
56:07>> Yeah.
56:08>> pushing shoving. You wind up pushing
56:10back behind the the his truck.
56:13>> Mhm.
56:14>> And then still pushing pushing.
56:16>> Correct. And then we get out into the
56:18front.
56:18>> Get out into the front.
56:20>> Mhm. And then that's when I had to do
56:21the close quarter shooting. So you drew
56:23>> you draw you draw yours. You shoot them
56:24one time.
56:25>> No. Twice. Two shots. Boom. Boom.
56:27>> Okay. You know what I'm saying?
56:28>> The the first one
56:29>> Yeah. shot right there. I saw correctly.
56:32I saw exactly where every shot went
56:33>> and then he like he kind of like falls
56:36to a seated spot. Kind of falls down on
56:39his butt.
56:40>> I don't know. I just did a You know what
56:41I'm saying? The two shots, you know.
56:43>> You did one and then you did another
56:44one.
56:45>> Yeah. You see the second?
56:48>> No, I don't see like I didn't see
56:49directly where every bullet went. I not
56:52when I walked up on him. Yes. After
56:54that, like after like whenever I was
56:56telling him
56:57I'm like, damn. He got hit center ass
56:59one in the arm, one in the face or
57:01whatever. You know what I'm saying?
57:02Like, so I was just like, damn.
57:04>> So your second one then you got were you
57:06trying to shoot a third time and you had
57:08>> I was trying to shoot till the threat
57:09was down
57:10>> right
57:10>> straight up. And I said my [ __ ] jam and
57:13then I went and cleared it, you know,
57:15brought got it back where I needed it to
57:16be and I went and shot again. I I heard
57:18it jam again
57:19>> on that
57:20>> on the third shot.
57:21>> Third shot. He was down on the ground
57:22already.
57:23>> Yeah. and he was trying to get up and
57:25that's when
57:25>> he walked over, fired.
57:27>> No, I didn't walk over. I He was I was
57:28already there.
57:29>> You know what I mean? And just popped
57:31him or whatever cuz I don't want it to
57:32be like that. I wanted to be where I
57:34turned my back then I came back the
57:35threat's already down type stuff like
57:37I'm not that guy or whatever. You know
57:39what I'm saying? It's a situation to
57:40where like I said, I felt threatened.
57:42You know, buddy, I don't know what he
57:44has going on. You know, there's multiple
57:46times like I can say I can show you to
57:48where he even sat there and did and even
57:50the first the the the time that he sent
57:52me the text message with that. I feel
57:54like I didn't text him because I didn't
57:55want to be in a rebuttal back and forth.
57:57He I believe he texted me back and says,
58:00"Man, I'm so sorry.
58:01>> The information that I got was wrong."
58:04>> But you knew you knew you knew that
58:06first one was right.
58:07>> Well, I Yeah. Yeah. I I didn't know the
58:09person there, but I just I was just
58:11there, you know.
58:11>> You saw You saw it later on when he was
58:13down on the ground right here. Yes, sir.
58:15>> Okay.
58:15>> Yeah.
58:16>> So, then boom, boom. Shoot twice.
58:19>> Mhm.
58:19>> Jam,
58:20>> correct.
58:21>> You cleared it. Do you know what kind of
58:23a jam you had?
58:26>> Just a misfire.
58:27>> It's just a stove like he said, just
58:28like he had mentioned or whatever, you
58:30know. And um I just wanted to just see
58:32cuz I didn't know if it was a mag like
58:34with the ammo being like loose bouncing
58:36around in the truck and it's not flush
58:38and it wasn't lined up correctly because
58:40there was some ammo. There was some
58:41rounds that I had full metal jackets and
58:43I had hollow,
58:45>> you know what I mean? So, I don't know
58:46how it was if I had two hollow first and
58:48then one, you know, full metal after
58:50that. Per say, I didn't really matter to
58:53me my gun. It was just, you know, for
58:55defense or whatever. Um, but that
58:58basically it. Like I said, once I got
58:59that jam, then that's when I went and
59:01shot and then it jammed again. I heard
59:03it jam again and that's when I was like,
59:05"Oh shit."
59:05>> So, did you have to clear it twice?
59:07>> No, I cleared it once. You cleared it
59:08once and then
59:10>> that's what I shot. Correct.
59:11>> Last shot.
59:12>> Yes.
59:12>> And then it jammed. You tried to shoot
59:14again but it jammed again.
59:15>> Yes, sir.
59:16>> So then you had to clear it again.
59:18>> Yeah.
59:18>> And then
59:20so what did he he was down and that why
59:22you cleared your gun totally or was
59:24>> once you like what you just said you
59:26said once you said that once that jam
59:28hit and I realized it was a jam then I
59:31saw that like I was just like okay the
59:32threat is down. You know what I mean?
59:34Then that's when I went to go and clear
59:37my weapon.
59:40just because of the simple fact that I
59:41saw him the other guy in a blue shirt on
59:44the phone and I didn't want nobody
59:46coming up guns and blazing. I wanted to
59:47let them know someone had got shot. I
59:49spec, you know, they were the same. So I
59:51and I was going to lay down on the
59:52ground, you know, till you guys got
59:54there. But then a Leo came up really
59:56quick. I already had the weapon ready,
59:58you know, already cleared up and safe,
1:00:00you know, for his safety, too, and
1:00:02pushed it away. You know what I'm
1:00:03saying? And I stepped I even stepped
1:00:05away and then that's when he came up to
1:00:06me and I just put my ammo on my back.
1:00:08>> Okay. Yeah. Surrender to him. Correct.
1:00:11>> Okay.
1:00:12>> Um you don't know what kind of ammo you
1:00:14you kept. You said you had a mix.
1:00:17>> Yeah. I have full metal jackets and then
1:00:18I had other ones or whatever the the
1:00:21hollow points but you know that would
1:00:23been enough for a minute. Like I said I
1:00:25never had the fire upon anybody. You
1:00:27don't know what you had loaded or
1:00:29whether it was a hollow point or or full
1:00:30metal jacket was the first round or
1:00:32>> No sir, I don't know cuz I got two
1:00:34different mags. The other mag actually
1:00:36was in the trunk I think on the floor or
1:00:39whatever, you know, at the time, you
1:00:41know, cuz normally what I normally do, I
1:00:43always, no matter what, that's why I
1:00:44keep it on the door. I keep a mag in my
1:00:46left pocket, you know what I mean? Even
1:00:48though it's still loose all around or
1:00:49whatever, it should actually be upright.
1:00:50But you don't it don't know. You don't
1:00:52never know what you have on you. And I
1:00:54always always always carry no matter
1:00:56what. you know, any any situation or
1:00:58whatever. So, I don't want to be like
1:00:59thinking like, oh, you know, he running
1:01:01back and going and trying to be so
1:01:02malicious. No, I always carry.
1:01:05>> That's why you got to conceal.
1:01:06>> I conceal car as well, too. But he's all
1:01:08he knows. That's why I said he knows he
1:01:11specifically say, I know you keep that
1:01:12little peep shoot on you at all time
1:01:14[clears throat]
1:01:14>> because I keep it and and I know that
1:01:16he's a convicted felony. You know what
1:01:18I'm saying? But I keep it where he
1:01:20can't, you know, be around it. It ain't
1:01:21like I'm putting it on the floorboard or
1:01:23put it up here while we smoking. You
1:01:25know what I mean? Well, they just on the
1:01:26side. You know what I'm saying? Like my
1:01:28dad's a convicted felon. You know, I'm
1:01:30not going to not put my firearm up for
1:01:32my safety because of you. You know what
1:01:34I mean? Like that's not going to happen.
1:01:37>> Uh what what's your address?
1:01:39>> My address is
1:01:44I don't think they got like street east
1:01:45and all of that. Just wood.
1:01:48>> Um and you got your two kids that live
1:01:51with you?
1:01:52>> Yeah, my daughter live me my my
1:01:53daughters live with me full time. I'm a
1:01:55full-time father.
1:01:55>> Yeah. Two or three?
1:01:56>> Three. I got three kids total.
1:01:58>> Okay. Um, do you know where Tra stays?
1:02:01>> Tra stays to when you walk out of my
1:02:04door.
1:02:04>> Yeah.
1:02:05>> He stays four houses to the right.
1:02:09>> Yeah. Four houses to the right.
1:02:15>> So, if I walk out of your door, turn
1:02:16right.
1:02:17>> 1 2 3 four houses down.
1:02:19>> Correct.
1:02:22And it's not five. Just make sure. But I
1:02:24know it's there. Yeah. I don't want to
1:02:25be, you know what I'm saying? Be like,
1:02:26you know, four and then be like, I count
1:02:28to five. Like, no.
1:02:29>> Who who's who stays with trash?
1:02:31>> His girlfriend does. Two kids. Her name
1:02:34is Nicole.
1:02:35>> She's part owner of uh her last name is
1:02:37Torres. She's part owner of um the ice
1:02:41spy place too as well.
1:02:44>> Do uh what what is Spy? What is
1:02:47>> I Spy is a gadget place or whatever.
1:02:49Like they have cop stuff there too as
1:02:51well or stuff that you can put like that
1:02:53that that that clock right there for
1:02:55instance the the 10:00 give me a camera.
1:02:58>> Okay.
1:02:58>> You know what I'm saying? So that's what
1:02:59it is.
1:03:00>> Do they got kids together?
1:03:02>> They don't have no children together.
1:03:03>> No children together. Um the niece the
1:03:07little niece you were talking about.
1:03:08That's is that Nicole's?
1:03:10>> That's his
1:03:11>> his niece.
1:03:12>> Yes. This his
1:03:13>> she's just over visiting.
1:03:14>> She was just over visiting. I heard
1:03:16about her the whole weekend. And that's
1:03:17the reason why I opened my door the way
1:03:19that I did because the girl that I
1:03:21wanted to get with, she was she just let
1:03:22me know stuff like, man, you know,
1:03:24either like with trash situation, trash
1:03:27got three kids living down there in one
1:03:29room. You know what I'm saying? But you
1:03:31got a three-bedroom house. So, she was
1:03:32talking about that as far as like why
1:03:34you didn't spread the kids out.
1:03:36>> Do kids live with Trash?
1:03:38>> They all live together. Yes, they all
1:03:39live together. That was the place
1:03:41Nicole's place. Tras moved in, but since
1:03:44he was the man of the house, they'll let
1:03:46him have the house in a sense. You know
1:03:48what I mean?
1:03:48>> How many?
1:03:50>> So, how many kids does he have living
1:03:51with him?
1:03:52>> Who? Trash.
1:03:53>> Yeah.
1:03:53>> The three kids of Nicole's.
1:03:55>> Oh, Nicole's got three kids.
1:03:56>> Yeah, those are Nicole's three kids,
1:03:58correct? Yes.
1:03:59>> And then his niece just happened to be
1:04:00over there hanging out or did she?
1:04:03>> Yes, she came to hang out and visit. Uh,
1:04:05but she's been bouncing around between
1:04:06the girl Amanda's house, then over there
1:04:09to his brother, which is called Ski, but
1:04:11his real name is Kendall. Okay.
1:04:12>> Um, and then you know Jake as well too.
1:04:15But then like I said, I literally heard
1:04:17them out there arguing or whatever as
1:04:19far as like, "Oh, I got to [ __ ] go to
1:04:20work. Why the [ __ ] would she bring you
1:04:22over here?" And I'm just like, "Man, you
1:04:24know what?
1:04:25>> I got you. You know who the niece's mom
1:04:28is?"
1:04:28>> Um, no. I don't know. I just know her
1:04:31name is Ka. That's all I know. Okay.
1:04:33Yeah.
1:04:34And I think that just spelled like K E L
1:04:37A. Yeah.
1:04:48You know, all I know I know Buddy was
1:04:49upset this whole weekend though, you
1:04:51know, cuz we sat down, we talked like
1:04:53every day we talked or whatever and he
1:04:54was mad because
1:04:56>> the uh the baby daddy original the
1:04:58original the real father claimed all of
1:05:01the kids,
1:05:02>> right,
1:05:02>> for taxes,
1:05:03>> okay?
1:05:03>> And he was hot, you know? I was just
1:05:06like, man, you got to just do your
1:05:07proper work, you know? just that's all
1:05:09you got to do. He's like, "Man, we need
1:05:10it." I'm like, "I get it. You may have
1:05:11needed the money, but just calm down
1:05:14and, you know, go up to Ocala and put in
1:05:15a report because if y'all have been
1:05:17taking care of these kids, which I know,
1:05:19you know, everybody else knows, y'all
1:05:21should be receiving that money." You
1:05:22know what I'm saying? And that's it.
1:05:25>> All right. Hey, let me uh let me step
1:05:27out for a few minutes.
1:05:28>> That's fine. One of y'all take me to the
1:05:29restroom though. I got to pee. Like
1:05:31literally like two second piss. You know
1:05:33what I'm saying? If I get sit tight, let
1:05:35me get you down there. Take care of that
1:05:37real quick. Okay. Um,
1:05:41>> I just What happened to your leg again?
1:05:43Can you tell me what happened to your
1:05:44leg again?
1:05:44>> Dad, I don't know. I don't even know.
1:05:46Like, you know what I'm saying? During
1:05:47that, that dude didn't want to wipe it
1:05:48off with me. Um, you know what I'm
1:05:50saying? But we was fighting, you know? I
1:05:52do know that. I mean, we was fighting.
1:05:53>> Did you fall in the concrete or
1:05:54>> No, I I didn't scratch you or
1:05:57>> Yeah, he might have scratched me. You
1:05:58guys trucks,
1:05:59>> but I didn't know, sir. I I kept
1:06:01everything, you know, like nothing on my
1:06:03back. You know what I'm saying? I didn't
1:06:04touch the ground in any way, shape, or
1:06:06form. like he just told me to just keep
1:06:08that on you, you know, so that way you
1:06:10can know that you showed him that you
1:06:11had fault. That type of deal. It got a
1:06:13little bit of it was more blood, but I
1:06:15didn't know that it was there when I
1:06:16went to go wash my hands. You know what
1:06:17I'm saying? That type of deal. But
1:06:19that's all. And he was just also telling
1:06:21cuz my I didn't even show you the
1:06:23receipt, man. These are brand new. I'm
1:06:24not going to see I'm I'm sitting there
1:06:26getting attacked. You know what I'm
1:06:27saying? And look at my [ __ ] bro. I keep
1:06:30I'm trying to tell you, you can look at
1:06:31my truck right now. I got
1:06:32>> you can you can hold it about 10 minutes
1:06:34and I'm going to get her in here to come
1:06:35swab your hands real quick.
1:06:36>> I mean that's fine or whatever. I just I
1:06:39>> we'll get you down there. Yeah. And then
1:06:40I'll get you down there and then she can
1:06:43I understand what you're saying. I
1:06:43understand washing.
1:06:45>> Give me a few minutes.
1:06:46>> That's fine.
1:06:51[clears throat]
1:06:52>> Yeah. I'm sorry about the stinking here,
1:06:54man. It just
1:06:55>> No, you're good. I was really It was
1:06:56really hard, bro, being a single dad
1:06:58full time because like the scheduling is
1:07:00just so bad. I got a kid all the way in
1:07:02Ocala, which that was, you know, I can't
1:07:05say it was a mistake. It was a mistake
1:07:06with being with the mom. Of course, that
1:07:08was like a one night stand, but I got a
1:07:10kid in Ocala. Then I got two daughters
1:07:12that go to two different schools, you
1:07:14know what I'm saying? And trying to have
1:07:16them get there in time along with being
1:07:18able to get the time to work. And I'm
1:07:20just like, damn, I ain't got no time to
1:07:21shower. But I did. If I would have never
1:07:23actually went to go have a conversation,
1:07:24I would have had time to shower. I just
1:07:26wanted to just have a conversation just
1:07:28to be, you know, to put the air touch.
1:07:30That's all it was. We broke right next
1:07:31to each other and we live right next to
1:07:33each other, right?
1:07:34>> You know, there's no reason for us to be
1:07:36on those type of levels of anything when
1:07:39we see each other and we've been
1:07:40affiliated with each other for years
1:07:42like you or knowing each other for
1:07:44years, you know, like I think should I
1:07:47known
1:07:48Travis since he was 15?
1:07:51No, 14 years old.
1:07:5414 years old. It was Yeah. 14 years old
1:07:56cuz I didn't have my license at the time
1:07:59and uh my cousins did. And uh he he and
1:08:03him and his boys came and ran a train on
1:08:04a girl from Everest.
1:08:06>> So he dropped the girl back off to us at
1:08:09the McDonald's cuz you remember
1:08:10everybody used to hang out at the
1:08:11McDonald's after the high school. And
1:08:13I'm like you going to take her home. You
1:08:15did what you did and I see the way she
1:08:16looked. Mm- you know. And then after
1:08:19that, we just became friends or
1:08:20whatever. Like I said, every street I
1:08:22lived on, he came to the house, got a
1:08:23haircut, the whole nine. It just
1:08:27crazy how this situation happened.
1:08:30Truly does.
1:08:33>> So, did your your current girlfriend
1:08:35live with you at the house at your
1:08:37place?
1:08:37>> No. I'm trying to get her to be my
1:08:39girlfriend. It's not going to happen
1:08:40now.
1:08:40>> No, no, not Amanda. You said you were
1:08:42with another girl.
1:08:43>> Oh, Liz. Yeah, Liz. She um she don't she
1:08:45lives in Beverly Hills, but she was
1:08:47there though. like she was, you know,
1:08:48like she'll come like three, four nights
1:08:50or sometimes out of the week, you know,
1:08:51and hang out and chill, [ __ ] like that.
1:08:53But, you know, she just left the house.
1:08:56She wanted you, though.
1:08:58>> How long you been dating her?
1:08:59>> [ __ ] that was 4 years.
1:09:024 years. And that was the hardest
1:09:04breakup I've ever had to do because, you
1:09:06know, I really wanted to be with the
1:09:07girl, but
1:09:09you know, like I said, it was a hard
1:09:11one.
1:09:15>> All right.
1:09:16easy for you to let him sit or stay.
1:09:19>> How are you doing? Welcome to your
1:09:20announce.
1:09:40>> Is this your stuff?
1:09:41>> Yes. Okay.
1:09:51Do you have your camera on?
1:09:52>> Yeah. He said I'm going to go to the
1:09:54bathroom first and I'll do that and then
1:09:55we're going to take clothing, too.
1:09:57>> Okay.
1:10:01>> I'm going to be quick. He'll he'll be
1:10:03right back.
1:10:03>> Oh, okay. Okay. One. Okay. I see what
1:10:05you're saying. My fault.
1:10:07>> You're getting No, I get you got
1:10:11to take a dump before we came in. Man,
1:10:13I'm like, I got coffee from Papa Jay's.
1:10:15I'm like, Lord have mercy. I'm for real.
1:10:18I'm serious. I'm not joking around when
1:10:19I say time management, everything, man.
1:10:21I be even trying to wake up before the
1:10:22kids go to school so I can use the
1:10:25bathroom. I've always had bathroom
1:10:27problems. Always.
1:10:29All right. You want to walk down here
1:10:30and take a piss real quick? Quick,
1:10:32quick, quick peek. That's it.
1:10:56I smell like this.
1:10:58>> So
1:10:59something something that we saw was kind
1:11:02of weird.
1:11:03>> Mhm.
1:11:04>> You said you you're coming from Ocala.
1:11:06>> Yes, sir. Then you drive down
1:11:11>> 44. You pass past Col. You come off of
1:11:14Independence on the 44.
1:11:16>> Go past Colony, go past racetrack.
1:11:19And you said you saw you were going to
1:11:21cut through
1:11:22>> cut through. Yeah.
1:11:25>> Why would I not turn to the other spots?
1:11:27>> No. At what point? Why did you drive
1:11:30through the parking lot of Colonial
1:11:32Plaza?
1:11:35I broke drove through the parking lot of
1:11:37Columbia.
1:11:38>> Yeah.
1:11:38>> Oh. Oh. Oh. That was when I was on the
1:11:40phone with John because I saw Nick up
1:11:42there and I was just like, "Oh shit."
1:11:44You know what I'm saying? Like Nick's up
1:11:45here already at the barber shop, so I
1:11:47don't got to worry about going in. I
1:11:48told you. I I literally said I go to
1:11:50Papa J's every morning to go get my
1:11:52coffee. Then I go and check on the shop
1:11:54because what I wanted to do was I was
1:11:56going to go up there and make sure that
1:11:57the AC is perfectly fine which I can
1:11:59show proof of that too as well that we
1:12:00had a AC issue within the last 2 weeks
1:12:03cuz when summertime kicks that
1:12:04commercial unit don't really do what
1:12:06it's supposed to do. You know what I'm
1:12:08saying? And also too I was going to go
1:12:10up there and go and pick up when I got
1:12:11done cutting my son's hair which he got
1:12:13a fresh ass haircut. He had chips that
1:12:16he spilled all over my barber chair and
1:12:18I didn't want to hear Chris bitching
1:12:20from you know what I'm saying before.
1:12:22>> Yeah. from the day before. I literally I
1:12:23think I cut his hair like literally
1:12:25there the day before. Okay.
1:12:26>> You know what I'm saying? I gave him a
1:12:27fresh fade
1:12:29>> and then that's when I left and I went
1:12:30out there and I just going home. That
1:12:32was it.
1:12:33>> So you drove through
1:12:36Colonial Plaza. You didn't stop and and
1:12:38go inside the barber shop or anything.
1:12:40So he saw Nick was already
1:12:42>> I saw Nick was already there. And I know
1:12:43one day there that they gonna be like,
1:12:45"Oh [ __ ] you know what? Skinny had his
1:12:47son here or whatever." You know what I
1:12:48mean? And just did it that way. So then
1:12:50now you're heading back home. You're
1:12:52going to cut through Starbucks.
1:12:53>> Yeah, correct.
1:12:54>> See him there.
1:12:56>> And [clears throat] I lie, I was about
1:12:57to go through Don Poss because I was
1:12:59just like, oh, you know, I want to see
1:13:01my ex Britney. You know what I mean? I'm
1:13:03like, [ __ ] You know, that girl
1:13:05aggravating as hell, but I was just
1:13:06like, nah, I'm going just go through
1:13:07Starbucks. You know, I literally do that
1:13:10same route every day. I even had a golf
1:13:11cart. I drive through there with when
1:13:13with um David Elias saw me one day. He
1:13:15said, man, you need to go get one of
1:13:16them low speed things. And I'm like,
1:13:18what is that? and he's like a tag
1:13:19because you can't be driving it. Like
1:13:21you literally I saw you leave from your
1:13:23house, drive through Starbucks and you
1:13:24drove up the sidewalk. And I'm like, I
1:13:27don't want to put on the road. I don't
1:13:28even go 20 m hour. And you're just like,
1:13:30yeah, but you still I was like, all
1:13:32right, I understand. So I just stopped
1:13:33driving that thing. You know what I
1:13:35mean?
1:13:36>> That's literally my same route every
1:13:38day. I got like I told him my life is so
1:13:41tight with having those girls full time,
1:13:44you know, that I do the same thing every
1:13:46single day.
1:13:48Um, I don't know
1:13:51if anybody has told you yet. You know,
1:13:53Tras is dead.
1:13:58Damn.
1:14:04[snorts] They they
1:14:06>> had him had him alive a little bit. Um,
1:14:08but he did not make it at the hospital.
1:14:13I don't know if anybody had told you
1:14:14that.
1:14:15>> No. Leo was in here trying to just, you
1:14:17know, he comfort me and stuff or
1:14:18whatever. He understood the story and
1:14:20stuff like that, but that's not
1:14:22something I wanted to have happen today.
1:14:26And you know, they're just really sad
1:14:28because like I said, that's literally my
1:14:30friend.
1:14:30>> Mhm.
1:14:31>> You know, that's it. And I'm just trying
1:14:33to, you know, I was just trying to get
1:14:34him to understand stuff. Like I told the
1:14:36guy before, there's a lot of black guys
1:14:38that grow up in life with a lot of anger
1:14:40in their body and don't want to listen.
1:14:42They just automatically draw to thinking
1:14:44that type of thing. in saying that, you
1:14:46know, that's why I want to show proof to
1:14:47you to let you know that every single
1:14:50time there's an argument or any type of
1:14:51instance, that's immediately the first
1:14:53thing that he wants to do is to
1:14:54threaten, you know, and I'm like, that's
1:14:56just weird. I'm trying to have a civil
1:14:59conversation with you, right?
1:15:00>> You see what I'm saying? Like, I'm not
1:15:02here to be no running up on no gang
1:15:05person or running up on somebody or
1:15:07whatever, you know, like in that manner
1:15:08doing a driveby or whatever or looking
1:15:10for an altercation. I got two little
1:15:12girls, man.
1:15:13>> Mhm. and a son that I'm just not brought
1:15:15into this world. You know, the last
1:15:17thing that I want to be sitting there
1:15:18doing is be trying to sit there and get
1:15:20into a fight. My main thing was the
1:15:21safety of them. That's why I was trying
1:15:23to get clarification so that he can
1:15:25possibly even say if you knew who the
1:15:27person was that was speaking on that
1:15:29stuff, then say something. I even you
1:15:31can go to my house. I literally I
1:15:33literally barricaded my house so that if
1:15:35it were to get shot that I know that I
1:15:37can roll off the bed, no joke, I put my
1:15:40truck in front of my window.
1:15:41>> You know what I'm saying? because you
1:15:42ain't going to shoot through an engine
1:15:43block if anything or whatever. And my
1:15:46back door to where my daughter stay at,
1:15:48I don't put a big ass spotlight back
1:15:50there. So if somebody, you know,
1:15:51sometimes if people see a spotlight,
1:15:53they're not going to go there, right?
1:15:55>> But that just it you know what I'm
1:15:56saying? It's I don't know a vindictive
1:15:58meaning like, oh, you know, you need to
1:16:00go and do this. Hell no. You know what
1:16:03I'm saying? And I know [clears throat]
1:16:04Nick Norton's the one that's going
1:16:05through that paperwork right now. He
1:16:06knows me. He sees me every single day
1:16:08when he comes to my barber shop. You
1:16:09know what I'm saying? He knows that I
1:16:11carry while being in my barber shop. You
1:16:13know what I'm saying? Cuz he's seen it
1:16:14multiple times and never has one time
1:16:16have he ever said, "Skinny, cover of
1:16:18your weapon." You know what I'm saying?
1:16:20Or any of that nature. He don't feel
1:16:22threatened. He going to be turned around
1:16:23feeling no type of way. I'm just This is
1:16:26mind-blowing. I said the situation
1:16:28should have never even happened if we
1:16:29just would have a civil conversation and
1:16:31you not talking about threatening and
1:16:33hurting and taking me away from my
1:16:35family. You see what I'm saying? That's
1:16:37self-defense. flat out clear as day or
1:16:39whatever, you know, and it sucks because
1:16:41like I told the Leo beforehand, being in
1:16:43the military prior service or whatever,
1:16:45I know how this [ __ ] works out to where
1:16:47you got to break down every single
1:16:48detail, but at the end of the day, you
1:16:51know what I'm saying? If you were to put
1:16:52yourself there in the same shoes and you
1:16:53sat here, been threatened multiple times
1:16:55and you got the proof to even show this.
1:16:58You know what I'm saying? And then
1:16:59you're over here just trying to just
1:17:00have a civil conversation and now this
1:17:02shit's happened.
1:17:05>> It's clear day. Stand your ground.
1:17:06Protect yourself. You know what I'm
1:17:08saying?
1:17:08>> That's just it. And I'm telling you, I
1:17:10ain't no vindictive. I feel bad. I
1:17:12honestly swear to God, I really honestly
1:17:14do. You know what I'm saying? No joke.
1:17:17There's no there's no bone in my body
1:17:18that's just sitting there saying, "Yay,
1:17:20this is happening." I'm stressed out
1:17:22even more now because now I can't go
1:17:24back to my home. You know what I'm
1:17:26saying? I don't know what's going on
1:17:28with the situation. You know what I'm
1:17:29saying? I'm worried about my daughter.
1:17:31She graduating today. She ain't going to
1:17:33walk across the stage knowing that her
1:17:34dad is in this situation.
1:17:36>> You know what I'm saying?
1:17:37>> And I even saw like just a glimpse. My
1:17:39kid's mom even knows about it out here
1:17:41and she's rushing back from Tennessee to
1:17:43try to make sure she can get to my son
1:17:44which is in Ocala. You know, so that's
1:17:48what I'm trying to I got a lot of [ __ ]
1:17:50going on in my head which I I put the
1:17:52kids first, man. Like I said, everything
1:17:54and anything in this world, I put my
1:17:56kids first and their safety, you know,
1:17:57matters a lot to me. You know what I'm
1:17:59saying? when it comes down to it and
1:18:01that's all I really was just trying to
1:18:02make sure that hey we was on the same
1:18:04page or whatever like hey man you know I
1:18:07should be able to go out there and go
1:18:08barbecue or whatever and not have to be
1:18:09looking over my shoulder or even getting
1:18:11on Zillow to try to find a new place to
1:18:13live. You see what I'm saying? Because I
1:18:16just want to be happy. All I wanted to
1:18:18do is just dating a girl. You know what
1:18:20I'm saying? That's it.
1:18:22>> And do you know you don't know John's
1:18:24number?
1:18:25>> Uh John is
1:18:33Yes. And you may have to call him or you
1:18:36text him cuz John's from New York and he
1:18:37ain't probably going to answer.
1:18:39>> But I mean if you send you know me Oh,
1:18:41never mind. Yeah. Yeah. He he should
1:18:43answer cuz I saw him text me too as
1:18:45well. Okay.
1:18:50Sit tight for me for a few more
1:18:53real quick.
1:18:56Um, what's that stuff? That's This is
1:18:59your wallet, right?
1:18:59>> Yes, sir. You can check all that. I
1:19:01don't need that pin or nothing, bro.
1:19:02>> I'm going to stick it in this other room
1:19:03over here.
1:19:04>> Yeah, you're fine. I'm not stressing
1:19:05none of that.
1:19:05>> No, you're good.
1:19:06>> Okay.
1:19:24Come on, bud.
1:19:26>> Oh, yeah. She's going to take photos.
1:19:28>> We'll do them right here.
1:19:31>> Yep.
1:19:36>> And what are these photos for?
1:19:37>> What's that?
1:19:38>> What is that photos for?
1:19:40>> Just we document everything as as we
1:19:42find it at the scene. So, we do uh
1:19:46how just exactly how you were, just
1:19:48exactly how everything was.
1:19:50>> Okay. I just don't want to be put on
1:19:51Facebook as a target.
1:19:52>> No, no, no. That's this is this is not
1:19:54going on Facebook.
1:19:55>> Okay.
1:19:56>> Not a chance, but
1:20:00>> Okay. Uh I am going to take a closeup,
1:20:03but I got you a chance.
1:20:05>> You're going to look good in these.
1:20:10>> We'll go back out of the bathroom.
1:20:11>> Okay.
1:20:13And the reason I'm doing that
1:23:25>> [clears throat]
1:23:50>> playing sports,
1:23:51>> basketball, football. I know a lot of
1:23:54the wheels that's you know that work
1:23:57with you guys. So I play basketball
1:23:59football.
1:24:00>> I went I went to Citrus. I graduated
1:24:02[snorts] in '05.
1:24:03>> 05. So you know my cousin Donny Ross.
1:24:05>> Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
1:24:06>> RJ Cobb stuff like that.
1:24:09>> How them boys doing?
1:24:10>> Yeah. Brad Latin. RJ ain't doing good
1:24:12though. But the other ones Brad Latin
1:24:14doing good. I think he was a basketball
1:24:15coach for Citrus
1:24:17>> for one year. Yeah. For one year. He did
1:24:19it for one year. And then Augustine,
1:24:21which is my uh classmate,
1:24:24um he's now the head coach of Citrus,
1:24:27>> Brad Augustine.
1:24:28>> Yeah.
1:24:28>> Yeah.
1:24:30>> Mhm.
1:24:32Yeah. Did you play any sports there
1:24:34though?
1:24:34>> I ran track and I played soccer. Oh,
1:24:36>> okay. So, you was with um you knew Matt
1:24:39Richards then?
1:24:40>> Yeah. Yeah. Matt Richards.
1:24:41>> Yeah. Matt Richy stuff. And then uh Chad
1:24:43Richie, I don't know. I don't know if
1:24:45Chad was a
1:24:46>> I think Chad played for a little while.
1:24:47>> Chad was a soccer player, too.
1:24:49>> Yeah. Yeah,
1:24:50>> but that's the only one that I knew of
1:24:52right now.
1:24:52>> I'm trying to think of I can't remember
1:24:54his damn name. Um
1:24:56he's like a sophomore when I was a
1:24:58senior. Uh he's a tall tall black kid.
1:25:04He was fast as hell. He was awesome. Um
1:25:06we ran 4x4 and 400 together.
1:25:10>> So you was a senior.
1:25:12>> I cannot remember his name to save my
1:25:15life.
1:25:15>> What did it Andrew Franklin? I
1:25:16>> was good friends with him for a long
1:25:18time. I can't believe I can't remember.
1:25:19>> And that's the only sport he played in.
1:25:22>> I think he played football.
1:25:26>> It's probably a little younger than you,
1:25:29maybe second grade. He was awesome. He's
1:25:32an awesome man.
1:25:32>> We didn't have no too many athletes that
1:25:34I was on. I ain't a lot. I was really
1:25:35the only athlete in my class cuz I did
1:25:38all the sports, even track and field.
1:25:40Um,
1:25:42and then I, you know, I being I was true
1:25:45the only [clears throat] brother on the
1:25:46team. Uh, you knew Nick Vick Delus?
1:25:48>> Yeah.
1:25:49>> The one that went play baseball. He's a
1:25:50Leo now.
1:25:52>> He's down in Miami.
1:25:53>> Is he really?
1:25:53>> Yeah. He not in Miami, but he off the
1:25:55road though now. He does like training
1:25:57stuff.
1:25:57>> Okay.
1:25:58>> So, I cut his brother here too. Yeah. He
1:26:00cool people.
1:26:02>> They cool people. But just like this
1:26:05situation right here. He stole my high
1:26:08school sweetheart. You know what I'm
1:26:10saying? And we still living our lives.
1:26:13That what I try to say, bro. It's just
1:26:14crazy. You know what I'm saying? like
1:26:17we still living our lives and I mean
1:26:19like we I literally walked into a party
1:26:21and seen her. I'm just like damn cousin
1:26:23like that she's like well I want to go.
1:26:25I'm like once I saw that in high school
1:26:27my for the rest of my life I was just
1:26:29like you know if a female does it to me
1:26:32oh well you just push on and move on
1:26:34about your very own life. You know what
1:26:35I'm saying? Like it sucks though. It
1:26:38really does suck. Especially when it
1:26:40happened to the guys or whatever. You
1:26:41know guys we be in our feelings for like
1:26:43like we was in co or something. you know
1:26:45about to die. But a female ain't
1:26:48nothing.
1:26:50Yeah, I miss I ain't going to lie. I
1:26:52miss them boys though. But I should have
1:26:53left though the same time that they
1:26:54left. The only real reason why I came
1:26:56back is just like I told him is because
1:26:58my daughters are here. I was really
1:27:00really successful in Ocala. even though
1:27:02it's only a few minutes away, but I
1:27:05didn't want my daughters being raised
1:27:06over at Ocala, you know, with all the
1:27:08way the advances of them boys because
1:27:10like my clients would come here 13, 14
1:27:12years old and be like, "Man, you know, I
1:27:15hit this one this week." I'm like, "Oh,
1:27:17hell no. You ain't going to be hitting
1:27:19my daughter." You know what I'm saying?
1:27:20We don't want that. Like, she let you do
1:27:22stuff like that. You know, if you got to
1:27:23be getting off like
1:27:26>> Yeah.
1:27:26>> Yeah. I just moved down here.
1:27:28>> You were And you were cutting hair in
1:27:29Ocala, too?
1:27:30>> Yeah, I was cutting hair. I worked at um
1:27:33Hair Junkies and um Flash Cuts, which is
1:27:36really two really really good barber
1:27:38shops. Way better than my barber shop.
1:27:40Even though I mean I'm the owner. I can
1:27:42probably I can say that for real though
1:27:44because they got more traffic. The
1:27:46people willing to pay more. You know
1:27:48what I'm saying? They got events going
1:27:49on in Ocala 2. Not like how Cit County
1:27:52is. We have [ __ ] you know, Ghost
1:27:55buys $1,200 driftwood at art festival,
1:27:58you know, like they got real events
1:28:00going on. So the guys are having to be
1:28:02cleaned up more and then so the kids as
1:28:04well, too. So I had way better business,
1:28:06you know, and the atmosphere was pretty
1:28:08cool, too, cuz he had a big ass like
1:28:11300galon fish tank or whatever, you
1:28:14know, in there. And like if you came and
1:28:16got so many haircuts, he'll put you into
1:28:18the winning of you winning one of those
1:28:20fish. I ain't going to lie, man. Spent a
1:28:21lot of money. man spent like $2,000 on a
1:28:23fish, you know, but he was the business
1:28:25owner. He had seven, no, he had 10
1:28:28barbers working for him. So, the man's
1:28:30grossing like 30,000 a month, you know,
1:28:32he's killing it. You know what I'm
1:28:33saying? Killing it. It's good money in
1:28:35barbering. It really is. You know, truly
1:28:37is.
1:28:37>> What's a haircut cost of your shop?
1:28:39>> Uh, my haircut
1:28:41for when you walk in is 25. Um, I do
1:28:44give the Leos the $5 off cuz I'm get
1:28:47military. I do the the discount, but uh
1:28:50nine time out of 10 people pay $40 for
1:28:51the cut. And then now I just recently
1:28:54went up to $30 for my haircut just
1:28:57because of inflation. You know what I'm
1:28:58saying? And I I really don't have no
1:29:00second income. So I just like I went up
1:29:02to $5 there. Um so it's not too bad.
1:29:04It's a medium price, but I don't want to
1:29:06go no higher than that because not a lot
1:29:09of people are going to be afford. You
1:29:11know what I mean? And then who the hell
1:29:12going to be looking at like, man, I got
1:29:13to either eat or I'm going to go get
1:29:15this haircut. You know what I'm saying?
1:29:16Like there's not a lot of people doing
1:29:18that type of stuff or whatever. So, it's
1:29:20hard to keep a business here. It really
1:29:22is, man. I'm not going to lie to you.
1:29:23I've been trying to do a whole nine.
1:29:24They've been wanting me to try to go
1:29:26political and I'm not doing that.
1:29:29>> Man, hold on. You guys, please.
1:29:33>> Oh, yes.
1:29:33>> You want me to document that?
1:29:35>> Yes. I thought you got it. It's on his
1:29:36knee.
1:29:36>> On me?
1:29:50Yeah. I mean, if you think about it, if
1:29:52you want your to stay like nice and
1:29:53short, like I get mine faded. It's been
1:29:55probably been 2 weeks, but like
1:29:58>> it's 25 bucks,
1:29:59>> correct?
1:29:59>> And so, like,
1:30:00>> where do you go to get it cut?
1:30:01>> I've been going to that guy in Time
1:30:03Square forever. In town barber shop.
1:30:05>> Oh, yeah. In getting my haircut there
1:30:07since I was a little kid.
1:30:08>> Yeah, that's um Damn, the little Italian
1:30:11guy.
1:30:11>> Yeah. Yeah.
1:30:12>> Mhm.
1:30:14>> That's it. I'm just waiting on Sling if
1:30:15you let him know.
1:30:16>> Um,
1:30:18>> thank you, man.
1:30:19>> Mhm.
1:30:20>> Yeah, I've been going there a long time,
1:30:21but I mean, if you think about it, like
1:30:22after tip and everything, you'd be
1:30:25spending $60 or $80 a month just to keep
1:30:28your hair looking around.
1:30:29>> Oh, yeah. Absolutely. And it grows a
1:30:30lot. Like, we was going to stay along
1:30:32the lines of a low price with like Tim
1:30:33Barber Room. Even Fred even came to me
1:30:36and he was just like, "Man, your name
1:30:38carries weight. Every barber shop I go
1:30:40in, he's like skinny skinny." I was
1:30:41like, "I know. I've been here for a long
1:30:42time." You know what I'm saying? I try
1:30:44to help out everybody and I'm also
1:30:46involved in the community, too. So, he
1:30:48was like, "Well, why don't you make a
1:30:50shop like how I had it and I'll help
1:30:53you." And I'm like, "I don't want no
1:30:54other partners because I already got two
1:30:57other partners now and I really don't
1:30:59want to be there no more. I actually
1:31:01wanted to open up my barber shop in the
1:31:03um into Walmart before back to school,
1:31:06you know." Oh, yeah. because you going
1:31:08to get all of those kids there. But once
1:31:10people see that that barber shop there,
1:31:12you cutting the cost of having to
1:31:13advertise cuz Walmart's already doing
1:31:15that for you for the foot traffic. You
1:31:17see what I'm saying? That's going to
1:31:18save us a lot of money there. Uh Walmart
1:31:20actually cares about their stores and
1:31:22making sure that the AC stayed at the
1:31:24par, things of that nature. You know,
1:31:26they got backup generators. We don't get
1:31:28that low to where we're at. I'm paying
1:31:29almost $1,000 a month and the AC
1:31:32recently went out. Um, like I was
1:31:34telling him, you know, by what, two
1:31:36weeks ago, man, well, yeah, about two
1:31:38weeks ago, man, it was so hot in that
1:31:40place. And guess what they tell us? You
1:31:42got to give us $1,000
1:31:44before we could even call or have
1:31:46someone fix it. So, that's another
1:31:49reason why I kind of it is beneficial
1:31:51that I do have business owners that sell
1:31:53because, you know, it's only $333 out of
1:31:55my pocket, but why do I have to pay you
1:31:57$1,000 to go get it fixed when it may
1:32:00have just been something s simple, you
1:32:02know, and it end up being something
1:32:03simple? Because I had to go back the
1:32:06next day um because like I said, my
1:32:09other barbers, they they they have their
1:32:11life going on, but like I really do love
1:32:13cutting hair and I care about my
1:32:14business. So, I showed up the next day
1:32:16at 6:00 a.m. Um, and I'm over there
1:32:19hanging out Papa J like I always do, but
1:32:21not at 6:00 a.m. though. I go around
1:32:22like 7:30, 8 o'clock. But 6:00 a.m. I
1:32:25hang out. They like, "What the hell are
1:32:26you doing here?" I said, "I'm here to
1:32:27check and make sure my AC gets working
1:32:28right or whatever, you know, and also
1:32:30the guy can come in and out if he has to
1:32:32set something, you know what I'm saying,
1:32:33to see if it's working." He was just
1:32:34like, "All right, I kid you not, man."
1:32:36The guy goes up there and comes right
1:32:38back down off the ladder. Guess what he
1:32:39says?
1:32:41Something was just lodging in your fan.
1:32:44Hey,
1:32:44>> and we can't get the money back. And I
1:32:46was like, are you serious? He's like,
1:32:48yeah, this is a $250 call for me to come
1:32:50out. And then I I to be real with you,
1:32:54the fan didn't need to be replaced, but
1:32:55I just replaced it anyway. I was like,
1:32:57so did you charge me for that? He's
1:32:58like, no, I didn't charge you for the
1:32:59fan, but I just want to let you know. I
1:33:01said, damn. So by you going up there and
1:33:03just saying something was lodged in
1:33:04there and you're moving, now the fan's
1:33:06back working again cuz it was a humming
1:33:08noise. He said he he's he was humming up
1:33:10top. Anyway, that cost 12250.
1:33:14I was like, damn. So, I want to try to
1:33:16switch up, man. Hopefully, hopefully,
1:33:18you know, like this thing is, you know,
1:33:20whatever um over with so I keep going on
1:33:24with my life cuz that's really what I
1:33:25want to do. I want to get this barber
1:33:27shop here and then after I get this one
1:33:29successful, then I was going to go to
1:33:30Ocala and do the same thing in Ocala.
1:33:32And then I think the village, no, the
1:33:34villages don't have a Walmart. Um,
1:33:37>> is there a place open in in Walmart?
1:33:39Yeah, right by the right by the um the
1:33:42glasses spot. Right by the glasses spot.
1:33:44I scanned the code the other day and
1:33:46they told me all I got to do is put all
1:33:47my information in, DV number, all that
1:33:49[ __ ] and then they are going to run back
1:33:50and see numbers and then they'll let us
1:33:52go in there. But my numbers are good.
1:33:55>> Cost in there.
1:33:56>> Now that I know it, I told myself I'm
1:33:59not going past 2,000. I can go to that
1:34:01because it's a 800 ft building, but I
1:34:04don't need seating for clust customers.
1:34:06So, I'm just going to maximize the whole
1:34:08spot foot full of barbers. You see what
1:34:10I'm saying? Or even, you know, a hair
1:34:12stylist to braid here. And then I just
1:34:14charge them commission. I afford it, you
1:34:17know, because if I get eight barbers or
1:34:19even eight stylists, you know, and I
1:34:21charge them, cuz right now my barber is
1:34:23paying $50 a day, but they will be
1:34:25getting taken almost on the average of
1:34:27$100 or more a day because of the
1:34:29commission. Now, they're going to leave
1:34:30with a good chunk of change, you know,
1:34:32cuz I must cap it off. Like once you hit
1:34:34a certain number, I don't need no more
1:34:36money from you. That's just being
1:34:37greedy. You know what I'm saying? Cuz
1:34:38like I said, I've been doing it for 20
1:34:40something plus years. I've seen
1:34:42>> barber shop owners push away their
1:34:43clients because of being greedy. You
1:34:45know, so hopefully it works out. You
1:34:48know what I'm saying? Hopefully.
1:34:51>> Is it Would it be hard to find that many
1:34:52barbers to come?
1:34:54>> No.
1:34:54>> Cuz I swear every time like I go to get
1:34:56my haircut, it's like there's nobody in
1:34:57there.
1:34:58>> Yeah. Like two people.
1:34:59>> Correct. It is. But I'm going to keep it
1:35:00real with you, man. They don't take care
1:35:02of the barbers. me. I'm going to make
1:35:03sure I got a schedule, you know what I
1:35:05mean? And I'm going to let people know
1:35:06their potential earnings cuz I can do
1:35:08that for them or whatever. And they're
1:35:09going to be like, "Bullshit." And I'm
1:35:11like, "No, I'm being serious. Work for
1:35:12me. Just work for me for one day. Work
1:35:14for me for a week and you'll see how
1:35:16hard I go, you know, to get people in."
1:35:18You know what I'm saying? Cuz like I
1:35:20said, I'm not political in any way,
1:35:21shape, or form. But we ain't even touch
1:35:23bases. I got I got the fire department,
1:35:25uh, the police station or whatever. And
1:35:27a lot of people been wanting me to like
1:35:28have our spot be like deemed only for
1:35:33first responders and stuff, but like I
1:35:35said, what about the D boys and stuff?
1:35:36Like they pay money too. You know what
1:35:38I'm saying? Like we got to get it for
1:35:39everybody or whatever, you know? And I
1:35:41don't want to just be on that. But I've
1:35:43had a lot of bigname people coming and
1:35:45talk to me as well too, you know? But I
1:35:48don't want to be a part of all of that
1:35:50that politics.
1:35:51>> Yeah.
1:35:51>> You know what I'm saying? Cuz it's just
1:35:53a scary thing. Like even with Buddy
1:35:55right now, he got to deal with it right
1:35:57now with the whole, you know, the Hera
1:35:59thing. And I'm just like, "Oh Lord," you
1:36:02know, I can imagine what he got to go
1:36:04and deal with on a regular basis.
1:36:06>> That's why I never wanted to be a boss.
1:36:08Like, like, you know, having that much
1:36:10power over anybody. Even when I was in
1:36:11the service, I'm like, "Nopem,
1:36:16yo, you good." I'm like, "Nope. I I
1:36:17suck. I don't even know how to shoot."
1:36:19You know what I'm saying? I'm serious. I
1:36:20don't I'm be I don't even know how to
1:36:23shoot. And they're like, "All right,
1:36:24we'll keep you here." Cuz if you try to
1:36:25be that guy, you know what I'm saying?
1:36:28Like a Leo that was here earlier, just
1:36:30like he was telling me, he was like,
1:36:31"Man, I was going to qualify. They just
1:36:33kept moving me up and up and up and up
1:36:34and up. And next thing you know, I was
1:36:36on the same level as Chris as a sniper.
1:36:38I was like, nah. [snorts]
1:36:40When you're in the military, you don't
1:36:41want to be that guy, you know? You just
1:36:43want to do your job and get out. That's
1:36:45all you want to do. Straight up.
1:36:48>> So, do you go overseas?
1:36:49>> No, no overseas. No overseas. Thank God.
1:36:52I had orders to go, but I was smart. I
1:36:55got the hell out of that military. I'm
1:36:56serious, man. My first 6 months of being
1:36:58in there, I'm like, damn, how the hell
1:36:59am I supposed to pay bills, you know? My
1:37:01first check was $1,200. First check, I
1:37:04said I was here for 30 days and I got
1:37:071,200 bucks. I'm like,
1:37:11I don't know, bro. I don't think I can
1:37:13stay in here. You know what I'm saying?
1:37:15So, I got out the military. And right
1:37:16after I got out of the military, I
1:37:18started making a lot lot more money. You
1:37:20know, I worked at Closet Made in Ocala.
1:37:23Uh, I did apply for E1, but I turned
1:37:25that job down because they told me how
1:37:27strenuous that job was. So, I was like,
1:37:29I'm not doing that. And that's basically
1:37:33it. I've been a barber ever since.
1:37:35>> That's when you got to come here.
1:37:37>> Yeah. Yeah. I got in a barber ever since
1:37:39because it's quick money, you know, like
1:37:41you do the math or whatever, you know,
1:37:42as far as, you know, you working, right?
1:37:44You're you have to get paid by the hour.
1:37:47You know what I'm saying? If I can get
1:37:49so if I can go and get so many units to
1:37:51come through this door, you know, I may
1:37:53be able to cut three, four heads in an
1:37:55hour, you know, and not rushing cuz some
1:37:57haircuts are simple. You know what I'm
1:37:59saying? And if I can do that, I can
1:38:01potentially make anywhere from $100 an
1:38:03hour, $40 an hour, $30 an hour. It is
1:38:05all depends on how I want to be, you
1:38:07know? Cuz I'm not going to show some
1:38:09days, like Monday for instance of last
1:38:11week, I went into work from 9:00 to 3
1:38:14and I'm gone. They're like, "Why you
1:38:17left?" [ __ ] I made 400 bucks. I'm gone.
1:38:19I'm not. We have like I don't know. I
1:38:22think I deal with a census like almost
1:38:23300,000 or something that in Huda Citrus
1:38:25County now or whatever. You can't cut
1:38:27everybody. So, I'm going to cut what I
1:38:29can and I'm going to leave and go by my
1:38:31merry way, you know? [clears throat] And
1:38:32a lot of time like my boy John, he like
1:38:34to be up there all day like John greedy
1:38:37though. But I like I can't do it. I used
1:38:39to be like that, but I ain't greedy. I
1:38:41order enough to get by. You know what
1:38:43I'm saying? Go home, smoke, hang out my
1:38:45kids. They sold a softball around and
1:38:47that's basically it. I just recently got
1:38:50some soft balls. Matter of fact, for my
1:38:51daughter, um I [clears throat] got 50 of
1:38:54them. Now, tell me how [ __ ] up Sid
1:38:56County is with this. I messaged the lady
1:38:58cuz it's on word of mouth, whatever.
1:39:00$75. She wanted all of these balls. Now,
1:39:03some of them were new, some of them
1:39:04isn't, but at the same token, it's a
1:39:07best offer. So, my best offer was $50. I
1:39:10shot you the $50 deal. You didn't want
1:39:13the $50 from me. And I told him, "I'll
1:39:15come pick them up right now." Now, you
1:39:16didn't have these balls online for 6
1:39:18days, you know. So, I said, "Okay, I'mma
1:39:21shoot it at you again. Here's the 50
1:39:23bucks." And then I said, "You know what?
1:39:26Let me get my employee to message this
1:39:27lady really quick." Soon as Mick me the
1:39:30lady and said, "I come pick them up
1:39:32right now for 50 bucks. That's all I
1:39:34have. Clear as date." Yeah. Here's the
1:39:36address. Citrus Springs.
1:39:38I said, "This is just messed up." I got
1:39:40a lot of deals like that, though. Even
1:39:42my lawn mower, I did the same thing. I
1:39:43had my girlfriend go and message the
1:39:45lady cuz she they seen me as being all
1:39:47aggressive like damn you just trying to
1:39:49screw me over. But then whenever she
1:39:51messaged, she was like, "Oh, I got 900
1:39:53bucks or whatever." The guy was like,
1:39:55"Yeah, just come over." I'm like,
1:39:58"Yeah, my whole my whole house is off of
1:40:00that marketplace or whatever, man. Like
1:40:02my furniture is from the villages. All
1:40:04of my furniture is from the villages. Um
1:40:07and then yeah, I get like little
1:40:10scragglers from here and there. Right
1:40:11now, I'm looking for a washer and dryer
1:40:13for that actual girl. That's what I was
1:40:15trying to do today to be honest because
1:40:17she said she needed one. So, I was like,
1:40:19"Shit, that'll be the icing on the cake
1:40:21to get her." You know what I'm saying? I
1:40:22was like, "Let me go and get the washing
1:40:24machine." And I was just messaging,
1:40:25buddy, too. And I'm like, "Fuck.
1:40:30You working hard to get this girl, man.
1:40:32I'm telling you, she's worth it, bro.
1:40:34She really is." is that's why I was
1:40:35trying to let them know like I'm not
1:40:37here to try to be a father to your your
1:40:40boy's son, you know, but everybody in
1:40:42this world need love or whatever, you
1:40:44know. I ain't looking for that girl to
1:40:45be a mother to my kids, but if she can
1:40:46step up and play that role, then that's
1:40:48fine. But let's at least be on the same
1:40:50page to co-parent. Then at the same
1:40:52token, you should respect it coming from
1:40:55me being the man that I am, knowing that
1:40:58I'm out there doing the stuff that I'm
1:40:59doing. Girl, I work every day. I'm out
1:41:01there in the front of that yard or
1:41:02whatever on Silverwood throwing
1:41:03softballs up and down that goddamn
1:41:05street. I ain't got time. My whole house
1:41:07is clean. But you go to my room, [ __ ] I
1:41:11get that laundry. You get that laundry
1:41:13in there. You know what I'm saying? If
1:41:15you need something for the week, I might
1:41:16fold some stuff up real quick. But
1:41:18everything else is spotless though. It's
1:41:19just my part of it because like I said,
1:41:22I want them to have a good life or
1:41:23whatever. You know, my daughters, I I
1:41:24grew up poor, man. My whole life. Like
1:41:26I'm talking about dirt poor. Like I'll
1:41:29probably be this outfit right here. When
1:41:31I was in school, when you was in school,
1:41:32I'd have been wearing this for like 4
1:41:34days. You know what I'm saying? And then
1:41:36I try to like go get that same shirt,
1:41:38maybe wear it with a different pair of
1:41:39pants. You know what I mean? So that's
1:41:41why I appreciate a lot of things or
1:41:43whatever in life. And that's why I'm the
1:41:44way I am because I'm, you know, what
1:41:46they would say, I guess, as humble, you
1:41:48know? Cuz I got Gucci shoes now. You
1:41:51know what I'm saying? And name brand
1:41:53designers and all of that stuff. But I
1:41:55don't never flaunt it in no one's face,
1:41:57you know? I just bought it to see maybe
1:41:59if like you know it was going to change
1:42:01the way I am as a person like in a
1:42:03better way. But now all it did was just
1:42:04bring me more [ __ ] You know what I'm
1:42:06saying? Oh my god, he has Gucci shoes.
1:42:08She going to spend money on me.
1:42:09[ __ ] You ain't my daughters. I
1:42:12don't spend no money on you. I'm being
1:42:14so serious
1:42:16today.
1:42:16>> But that girl is different because the
1:42:19story with that is like all right. So I
1:42:21got to tell you. So when I was with my
1:42:23first kid's mother, she had cheated on
1:42:25me. So, you know, we still stayed in the
1:42:27same house and was cordial, but it was
1:42:29my time to leave cuz I just didn't want
1:42:30to be. I'm like, I'm watching you coming
1:42:32in the house. I know you didn't want to
1:42:33got something from some other dude. I'm
1:42:35playing a game. I'm just like, man, I
1:42:37said, you know what? 7 months went by,
1:42:38your mom living here. I was just like,
1:42:41you good. I know that you financially be
1:42:43all right. I'm going just leave. Well, I
1:42:45met that girl in school and I was like,
1:42:48you know, damn, you so nice and overall.
1:42:51And I'm like, man, let's just chitchat.
1:42:52So we started talking and then I went
1:42:54and took her out on the bait and I went
1:42:56to go and you know like everything went
1:42:58perfectly fine but I was so anxious and
1:43:00nervous bro I can do nothing
1:43:03nothing when I say nothing bro I'm
1:43:06telling you I went to that girl house
1:43:08four days in a row nothing I even called
1:43:12the doctor I said hey man we need to
1:43:13something going on with blood pressure
1:43:15or something is wrong bro cuz I can't
1:43:17even perform and he like what so I had
1:43:20told myself whatever you know what since
1:43:22I can't give her that. I'm going just
1:43:23let it be, you know. Then I met up with
1:43:26her again and this time she had her own
1:43:30house, all of this stuff, whatever. You
1:43:31know, same thing with me. I'm living in
1:43:32Sugar Mill, so I had a little bit of a
1:43:34financial confidence, you know, cuz I'm
1:43:36in a way better house and all of this
1:43:38stuff. But again, it happened again.
1:43:42>> The same girl,
1:43:43>> same exact chick. Now, this is the first
1:43:45time we we chitchated. We went to the
1:43:48movie theater, bowling alley or
1:43:49whatever, stuff like that. I waited four
1:43:51years later, maybe five, and saw her
1:43:54again because she like to talk to Chris
1:43:56River dudes. I don't never be out there
1:43:57affiliate. I'm an eminence, you know
1:43:59what I mean? So, like she finally came
1:44:01and got a haircut. Then [clears throat]
1:44:02her mom was like, "Oh, you know, he's a
1:44:04good-looking guy, blah blah. You should
1:44:06go and talk to him or whatever, you
1:44:07know?" And then that's when we end up
1:44:10chitchatting. But in the back of my
1:44:12mind, like I said, paying attention to
1:44:14my surroundings, I said, "Hold on. Isn't
1:44:16your baby daddy in prison?" She's like,
1:44:17"Yeah." And I was like, "When does he
1:44:19come home?" But whatever. And she was
1:44:21like, "Oh, very soon." And I was like,
1:44:24"What is this?" And she was just like,
1:44:25"Oh, I'm just holding his money." Cuz I
1:44:27mean, [clears throat] that boy had a
1:44:28[ __ ] ton of money. You know what I'm
1:44:30saying? Y'all know I arrested Buddy
1:44:31already multiple times. Um, but I was
1:44:34like, "Uh, I don't think I can compete
1:44:37with him." And I don't want to be around
1:44:38when that situation happens. So, I got
1:44:40my daughters and I left. That was like a
1:44:42month and a half of us doing that, you
1:44:44know. And she was mad after then. She
1:44:47was like, "Why didn't you listen to me
1:44:48and get me pregnant or you know, wipe me
1:44:50up?" And I'm like, "Cuz I didn't want to
1:44:52deal with that [ __ ] Now look at what's
1:44:54going on. This this dude now he know
1:44:57that we talking." And he literally had
1:44:59no problem sending the threat over, you
1:45:00know? So I was like, "Damn." But she a
1:45:03good one though. She really is a good
1:45:04woman. You know what I'm saying? It's
1:45:06just the people that she choose to be
1:45:08with the bad ones. And that's why I
1:45:10don't understand how I even got into her
1:45:12cuz I'm like going down the line. I'm
1:45:13like naming all these different dudes
1:45:14and I'm like he got felonies. I don't.
1:45:17This dude sacks his pants all the time.
1:45:19I don't. This dude, you know what I'm
1:45:21saying? Selling drugs. I don't. Like I'm
1:45:24with my kid. This kid is never with his
1:45:26kids. And I'm always with my kids. You
1:45:28know what I'm saying? He just like it
1:45:30was just ongoing or whatever. I just
1:45:31like I don't know how to feel how I fit
1:45:33into it. But I think really now that I
1:45:35logically think about it, what her fancy
1:45:37is is that she do want me to like give
1:45:39her the business. You know what I'm
1:45:41saying? when all is said and done, then
1:45:42I'm like, "Uh, I want more than that. I
1:45:46do. I want more, but [snorts] it ain't
1:45:50going to happen."
1:45:55[snorts]
1:45:56Are you married yet?
1:45:58>> Yep. I'm settled down. I've been settled
1:46:00down.
1:46:01>> You married somebody from Citrus?
1:46:04>> Uh, no. They were a mil military girl.
1:46:06They were all over the place. That's
1:46:07good though.
1:46:08>> They ended up here late, but um yeah,
1:46:11>> that's good.
1:46:12>> Yes, sir.
1:46:13>> Kids, too.
1:46:14>> Oh, yeah. You know how it goes.
1:46:17>> Oh, yeah, man. By far. I tried to only
1:46:19have two girls, man. My daughter's a 14
1:46:21and 11, but I had that dog on one night
1:46:24stand and next thing you know,
1:46:28it was a wrap.
1:46:29>> That's how it goes.
1:46:30>> I'm like, damn. And I blame my ex ever
1:46:33since then. She just like, why you blame
1:46:34me? I was that [ __ ] You know, I had a
1:46:36high sex drive. I was just trying to get
1:46:37some and next thing you know now I'm
1:46:39stuck between I'm on $1,300 a month in
1:46:42child support.
1:46:43>> Oh, are you really?
1:46:44>> Yeah, I really am.
1:46:46>> For both of them or what?
1:46:47>> Just No, my daughters My daughters live
1:46:48with me. I'm I'm dad. Like, you know,
1:46:51I'm the only
1:46:52>> So, you have two different
1:46:53>> Yeah. So, I got a Puerto Rican baby mama
1:46:56that lives here with that's the two two
1:46:58girls. That's the ones I more or less
1:47:00worried about cuz obviously they were
1:47:01stuck in the house. Um, and then I got a
1:47:05son that's in Ocala and his mother is a
1:47:07um, she what the hell is she? She's a
1:47:10banker, bank teller. You know what I'm
1:47:13saying? Like that. But yeah, she put me
1:47:16on child support because I didn't want
1:47:18to date her. She was like, "Oh, well,
1:47:20you you going to go and date this girl
1:47:22and I you know, basically what I think
1:47:24what it was was whenever I first started
1:47:26talking to her and then like I showed
1:47:27her like how a real man can actually be,
1:47:30you know, taking her on dates, you know
1:47:31what I'm saying? and showing that Shiver
1:47:32is not dead, treating her daughter the
1:47:35correct way type stuff. And then also
1:47:37too, I've been able to afford to go do
1:47:39different things. She's like, she fell
1:47:41in love instantly. But I was just being
1:47:43me. It just come natural. Just like with
1:47:45this last girl as well too. The same
1:47:47thing with her. She's like, "Why do you
1:47:48do so much?" I said, "Because I love her
1:47:50and I like to give. I prefer to give
1:47:51people before I give myself." You know
1:47:53what I mean? And she's just like, "I get
1:47:55that, but you also got to take care of
1:47:56yourself." But anyway, yeah. This chick
1:47:58right here, bro, she went and seen them
1:48:00finances and straight straight to court.
1:48:03She had my bank statements before I had
1:48:05my bank statements. And I don't even
1:48:07know how the hell that even happened.
1:48:08I'm just like, you know, but yeah, it
1:48:12been a struggle ever since, man. cuz now
1:48:13I'm going to they trying to put my child
1:48:16support up more um because of inflation
1:48:20because the the judge says or not judge
1:48:22but the lawyer says she has a good
1:48:23argument just because of the inflation
1:48:25because now the daycare went up $50,
1:48:28food cost went up and also stuff cost
1:48:31goes up. And I'm like, well, why don't
1:48:32she just do her part? My son with me,
1:48:35like I said, growing up poor and only
1:48:37having one pair of shoes, he got 18.
1:48:40He's only 2 years old. He don't need all
1:48:42those shoes. You know what I'm saying? I
1:48:43made it. You know, and personally, I
1:48:45feel like a kid should struggle a little
1:48:47bit anyway, so that way they can be a
1:48:48little bit more accepting and
1:48:49appreciative of things. You know what I
1:48:51mean? Rather than just being a spoiled
1:48:52brat, but ain't nothing I can do about
1:48:55it. You know, she got a brand new house
1:48:58as well, too.
1:48:59>> What does she do for a living?
1:49:00>> She's the bank teller.
1:49:01>> Dang.
1:49:01>> I'm paying for it. I I contemplate it.
1:49:03Every year I give her 20 for Lyn's been
1:49:06about to be 3 years old. 26 $25,000 a
1:49:09year.
1:49:10telling you, bro. And I say I be tough,
1:49:12like I'm not joking when I say this. It
1:49:14be it really is really hard some days
1:49:17for me, you know? It truly honestly is.
1:49:21Dang.
1:49:22>> Mhm.
1:49:24That's why I would be down there hanging
1:49:25out with buddy smoking sometimes. Shoot.
1:49:27He buy some, I buy some. We ain't going
1:49:29to just buy every week cuz you know that
1:49:31[ __ ] expensive. You know what I'm
1:49:32saying? And $50 a day, you do the math,
1:49:34that's a lot of money, you know. So I
1:49:36was just like, man,
1:49:38>> is that what it cost? Yeah, it's it's
1:49:40it's depending.
1:49:41>> Now, did you go get your card?
1:49:43>> I got my card. Yes, I went and got that.
1:49:44>> That stuff's crazy expensive.
1:49:46>> Yeah, it is. That's why I That's why I
1:49:48got that little pen. I just
1:49:49>> I heard it's strong, though.
1:49:50>> It is. But just one little tap is like
1:49:53equivalent to almost a half a blunt, you
1:49:55know, of a cigar. So, you're just
1:49:57mellow. That's all it is. Like mine is
1:49:59just to be mellow. I don't be on that
1:50:01trying to be like looking like I'm
1:50:02kicking 30 perks or something and
1:50:03sleeping in the corner. Like,
1:50:05>> does it help you sleep at night?
1:50:06>> Oh, yeah. By far. to sleep at night.
1:50:08Even like with back pain, like I got one
1:50:10strand which is not in that nap pen. I
1:50:12don't even know what strand that one is,
1:50:13but it literally only fights pain. So
1:50:16like you can smoke, you can sit there,
1:50:17hold it in, you ain't going to get hot,
1:50:19but your body, you know, you won't it'll
1:50:22be like almost a numb type of thing or
1:50:23whatever and you just relax. So at night
1:50:25time before I go to sleep, I do smoke. I
1:50:28just, you know what I'm saying? Go on my
1:50:29little lad that I got back there. I
1:50:31smoke even a joint uh uh or the bong or
1:50:34a whole blunt and you're good to go. You
1:50:37still wake up, you gonna hear stuff. You
1:50:38know what I'm saying? It just you just
1:50:41My thing is with me, my mind runs so
1:50:43much. That's the reason why I think I
1:50:45smoke because I think about a lot of
1:50:47things. Like I said, I think about my
1:50:49daughter today with this situation or
1:50:51whatever, just trying to figure stuff
1:50:52out.
1:50:54So, it's kind of it's kind of difficult.
1:51:02I need to go.
1:51:05[ __ ]
1:51:07with these [ __ ] phone calls. You
1:51:10good? Anything? Got to take a leap, but
1:51:13you're good. I'm just waiting on you.
1:51:16>> 5 minutes.
1:51:17>> Got you. You hold it for five.
1:51:19>> I don't know. We made him hold it for
1:51:21like 15.
1:51:23Yeah, she made me hold it for almost an
1:51:24hour. No. Like, dang.
1:51:28It's all right though.
1:51:35It's sad to say, but I'm going to tell
1:51:37you his job and the truth. Lord, if he
1:51:39let me make it out of this and I know I
1:51:40didn't do nothing wrong, I'm never
1:51:42touching a [ __ ] gun again. And this
1:51:44is coming from a veteran's mouth.
1:51:52Truly, truly, truly crazy.
1:51:56>> [snorts]
1:52:26>> What' you say that girl name was?
1:52:28>> Um, Amanda.
1:52:30>> Amanda Nelson.
1:52:32>> Yeah, it is.
1:52:35What was your uh your baby mama lived
1:52:37local?
1:52:38>> Yeah.
1:52:39>> No, I got one live local
1:52:41>> with your son.
1:52:42>> Oh, with the son. That's Shelby.
1:52:44>> Shelby.
1:52:45>> Yeah. Maddox.
1:52:47>> Sounds familiar.
1:52:48>> Yeah. She she stayed here for a little
1:52:51bit. Um but she left him. She only
1:52:53stayed for like a little bit cuz I let
1:52:55her stay with me for about
1:52:57>> Maddox. What? T's?
1:52:58>> Yeah. Two two T's.
1:53:01But the girl that you dated for four
1:53:04years.
1:53:05>> Oh, that's Liz.
1:53:07>> Liz. What?
1:53:08>> Rios.
1:53:09>> Is it Elizabeth or Liz?
1:53:11>> Uh, it's just Liz.
1:53:13She's Mexican.
1:53:14>> Rios. R I O S.
1:53:16>> Yeah.
1:53:19>> And you have, See, you have a kid with
1:53:20Liz.
1:53:21>> No, no kids.
1:53:23>> No.
1:53:23>> But you have one with Shelby.
1:53:25>> Correct. One boy's with Shelby and two
1:53:27girls are with Michelle.
1:53:31Michelle was well obviously wasn't on
1:53:33the one night stand.
1:53:35>> No, Michelle I almost married Michelle.
1:53:38Yeah, we were together for eight years
1:53:41and then she had cheated on me. Um I
1:53:45started letting her go to the gym and
1:53:47she just cheated on me just literally
1:53:49one day and I'm like that's crazy. I let
1:53:51you, you know, like not let you go to
1:53:53the gym. moment and say that was but
1:53:54just like you know I was like oh go to
1:53:55the gym work out cuz you feeling down
1:53:57and out about yourself so go work out. I
1:53:59work out in the sun every day so I'm
1:54:01never going to get fat. You know what I
1:54:02mean? So just do it. And long story she
1:54:06just sat there and just you know had a
1:54:07whole I'm talking about for almost like
1:54:093 months. I didn't even know it. You
1:54:11know
1:54:11>> from somebody she met at the gym.
1:54:13>> Yeah. And then the guy slipped up and
1:54:15called my called the phone one day and I
1:54:18was just like you know like I said I
1:54:19pick up numbers quick. cuz I saw it and
1:54:21I'm like, I'm going to call this dude
1:54:22back and see what it is. And sure
1:54:24enough, it was a guy and he explained
1:54:25the whole nine to me. So, I left her
1:54:28alone.
1:54:30I'm a long relationship kind of guy. I
1:54:32just girls just gravitate to me cuz
1:54:33they, like I said, they see that I'll be
1:54:35taking care of my daughters. They see
1:54:36the money, you know, and they think that
1:54:39I'm just that guy that wants to do that.
1:54:41But I really don't. I be just trying to
1:54:43find girls to, you know, like to love
1:54:45and care about and only have one person
1:54:47to worry about. You know what I mean?
1:54:48cuz it's too much to be, oh, you got
1:54:50this life you living with this girl, but
1:54:52then this life you got going with this
1:54:53girl. Like, no. I like to know I'm good
1:54:57like right now. And it's sad to say, but
1:54:59my phone probably blowing up from every
1:55:01female I've ever talked to cuz I didn't
1:55:04already seen it. I'm just like, damn.
1:55:16Mhm.
1:55:19All right. I think
1:55:23[snorts]
1:55:25you got
1:55:27you good.
1:55:28>> Yeah,
1:55:28>> sure.
1:55:36We just got to get um get you a ride.
1:55:39I'm sorry about the clothes. [snorts]
1:55:42I know. They kind of get just some
1:55:44generic clothes for situations like
1:55:46this. So it's not really
1:55:50>> got a ride
1:55:50>> kind of kind of neutral neutral
1:55:52clothing.
1:55:54Get [clears throat] you a ride out of
1:55:54here.
1:55:55>> Oh, okay.
1:55:56>> So we're we're about wrapped up.
1:55:58>> So what did I do from this if you don't
1:56:00mind me asking? [snorts]
1:56:03H well
1:56:07>> cuz I can't even It's just so saddening
1:56:09to me. I can't even
1:56:10>> How long How long How [clears throat]
1:56:11long have you known trash?
1:56:13>> We been friends [ __ ] years, man.
1:56:14>> Yeah.
1:56:16>> Yeah. and I know his brother and [ __ ]
1:56:18and I'm just like,
1:56:23you know, and then the sad thing is this
1:56:24this is where I'm home. This is my home,
1:56:27>> you know, and it's now now I'm be it's
1:56:29going to be dangerous for me, you know,
1:56:31>> because
1:56:33>> like I told the guy before that the
1:56:36situation that happened with Tyler, I
1:56:38knew Tyler Chu Hopkins, you know, and
1:56:40David and stuff like that. And I told
1:56:42David, I was like, "Bro, you know, I kid
1:56:45mom. I said, "You better not come back
1:56:46here after them 25 years is up." You
1:56:49know, like the streets is like real and
1:56:51people don't play and it just sucks. But
1:56:54the thing is is my situation is I feel
1:56:57like everybody going to be screaming at
1:56:59me is if I I done something, you know
1:57:02what I'm saying, out of the way wrong.
1:57:04You know, I don't know, man. I just got
1:57:06so much [ __ ] going on in my head.
1:57:09I really honestly don't know what to do.
1:57:11And then what? They got do they did they
1:57:13tow my vehicle or anything or
1:57:15>> So I do have to tow your vehicle. Okay.
1:57:18>> Um
1:57:21we going to have to do a search warrant
1:57:23on your car. So we had to tow it down.
1:57:25They're they're writing up the search
1:57:26warrant now. So it won't take that long.
1:57:30>> Um but so we had to tow it down to
1:57:33operations our office down in.
1:57:36>> Okay.
1:57:36>> So they're going to put it in a garage
1:57:37down there. So
1:57:38>> Okay. Thank God. Yeah. I about to say in
1:57:40my back or whatever and just my kids
1:57:42shoes and stuff and all that stuff.
1:57:43>> Yeah. No, we're going to take it.
1:57:45They're going to put it in a garage down
1:57:46there so that way it's out of the public
1:57:48eye. It's out of the weather and stuff
1:57:52like that. And that way it's kind of a
1:57:53clean, sterile environment so we can do
1:57:56our search warrant and stuff down there.
1:57:58I can't tell you how long that's going
1:57:59to take or when it's going to be done.
1:58:01Um, I know we don't The evidence lady
1:58:04that runs that garage is like,
1:58:07"Hurry up and get your stuff out of my
1:58:09garage so I can get the next one in
1:58:11there." So, okay,
1:58:12>> we'll get it in, get it processed as
1:58:13quick as we can.
1:58:14>> Okay.
1:58:15>> Um, hopefully they'll have the search
1:58:16warrant done, signed
1:58:20before the judge goes home today, so
1:58:22that way we can knock it out first thing
1:58:23in the morning. Um, they'll take updated
1:58:25photographs. Um
1:58:28any any of your firearms or ammunition
1:58:31stuff that's in there we're going to
1:58:32seize.
1:58:33>> Kind of not even worried about it right
1:58:35now. Um
1:58:39trying to think if Michelle needed
1:58:40anything important for the girls, but I
1:58:42don't think that they do. I think all of
1:58:43their medicine should be all at the
1:58:44house. Yeah. Yeah. Michelle should have
1:58:47everything at the house.
1:58:49>> The kids take medicine.
1:58:50>> Yeah. Not. Um, now they don't have a key
1:58:53to the house though to get back in if
1:58:55they needed their belongings cuz I know
1:58:56they probably packed the bag, you know
1:58:58what I mean, for a couple of things,
1:58:59right?
1:58:59>> But I would like to give her the food
1:59:01that at least is in there, you know,
1:59:03that type of thing.
1:59:04>> Is there is there a neighbor with a key?
1:59:07>> No, just got a landlord, but I don't
1:59:09even really My landlord is kind of
1:59:11weird. [clears throat]
1:59:12>> What What about What about on your on
1:59:14your key ring?
1:59:15>> There's a key on the key ring. Yeah,
1:59:16>> there's a key on the key ring. Is it Is
1:59:18it marked or is it something?
1:59:19>> Yeah. Yeah. I just don't want them going
1:59:20there by my by by their self or
1:59:22whatever. That type of thing,
1:59:23>> right?
1:59:24>> They got a whole bunch of little dots on
1:59:25it. So, what's going to happen with me?
1:59:28That's what I want to know in my
1:59:30situation because I know we talking
1:59:31about that and all that stuff, sir. But
1:59:34I ain't lying. I got to poop again.
1:59:36Stomach flipping and [ __ ]
1:59:38>> I I totally get it.
1:59:44[ __ ] that. Wait. Uh, you said let me
1:59:47back up to the to the key. Is there you
1:59:50got a [clears throat] bunch of different
1:59:51keys on there?
1:59:52>> Yeah, just it's a house key with a dot.
1:59:53So, a whole bunch of little dots on it.
1:59:55>> Okay. You don't have your your work keys
1:59:58on there. The same same key ring by any
2:00:00chance?
2:00:01>> Yes. But
2:00:02>> we'll find I'll find it.
2:00:03>> Yes.
2:00:04>> If we need to, we'll help them out
2:00:05taking care of that.
2:00:10>> Yeah. anything. I mean, hell, they could
2:00:13just take the because the way my keys is
2:00:14set up on there, it's like a quick
2:00:16[clears throat] release latch.
2:00:17>> Mhm.
2:00:17>> You know what I mean? So that that that
2:00:19that's that set of keys that's on the
2:00:20quick release. They can just take that
2:00:21off and keep the file up
2:00:25>> if they want to do it that way. You know
2:00:27what I mean? So that way they can have
2:00:29that cuz it even got my Harley my Harley
2:00:31keys on it too.
2:00:34>> You said Michelle.
2:00:35>> Yes, Michelle. Who's
2:00:37>> Michelle Hernandez is uh Emmy and
2:00:38Aubry's mom. Okay.
2:00:45I don't think I got
2:00:47And she is she coming to get the girls?
2:00:50>> She already got the girls.
2:00:51>> She already got them.
2:00:52>> Mhm.
2:01:01>> Are you okay with her going in there and
2:01:03getting stuff?
2:01:04>> Yeah. I Well, I don't know what the
2:01:07situation is. Like I told you, it really
2:01:09is bad. So, I don't want her going in
2:01:11the house and then they mistaken it as
2:01:12me. So, honestly, just don't even worry
2:01:15about letting her get the key, you know,
2:01:17cuz God forbid if they do and they try
2:01:20to, you know what I'm saying? Like, they
2:01:21think it's me going in the home, then I
2:01:24don't know what go go goes on cuz the
2:01:26the guy that, you know, the situ this
2:01:28thing happened to, his family live
2:01:30literally right across the street. So, I
2:01:31don't want her going in the house,
2:01:33right?
2:01:34>> Okay.
2:01:40Um,
2:01:48as everything goes right now, just
2:01:50kidding, you are going to be arrested.
2:01:52Okay.
2:01:55Um,
2:02:00if we find something, anything we find
2:02:04all goes to the state's attorneys.
2:02:05Correct.
2:02:06>> So, we we've reached out to them
2:02:07already.
2:02:08>> I don't even got no money for ahead. Go
2:02:10ahead.
2:02:10>> Told them where we're at. Okay. I just
2:02:13want to make sure that right now we can
2:02:15take care of your kids or help you get
2:02:18your kids stuff that they might need.
2:02:20>> Well, that money that's in there, that
2:02:21cash or whatever, just give it to
2:02:23Michelle. And is there any way I can
2:02:24even talk to Michelle just so that way
2:02:26she knows the money that's in your
2:02:28wallet?
2:02:28>> In my wallet? Yeah. I need to get that
2:02:30to her cuz I'm when I say I'm tight
2:02:32tight, I don't have no money in my
2:02:33account. Like so I want to give that to
2:02:35her. You know what I'm saying? Damn,
2:02:37man. Liam needs money too though.
2:02:41What's What's Michelle's number?
2:02:49>> Zero.
2:02:52How much money is in your wallet?
2:02:54>> Over 600 to 700 bucks.
2:02:58>> You want You want to give that to her?
2:03:01>> I don't want to give it all to her. I
2:03:02just wish some of it. But
2:03:05>> you want me to get your wallet and put
2:03:07it in here? I
2:03:08>> Yeah, just give it to her cuz I know
2:03:09that they going to have to take it. You
2:03:10know,
2:03:11>> she's on her way back in Tennessee.
2:03:12>> No, that's Shelby. That's Liam's mom.
2:03:16>> That's a little boy.
2:03:17>> Yeah, Michelle's already here.
2:03:22But I tell you, I already knew that was
2:03:24going to happen. I ain't going to be
2:03:25upset or do no crazy [ __ ] But it just
2:03:28really does just I told you. I knew it.
2:03:31And I was exactly I was exactly right.
2:03:33That's exactly why I got out the
2:03:34military. You know what I'm saying? You
2:03:36stand your ground. All of this other
2:03:38[ __ ] comes into play. You know what
2:03:40I'm saying? And it's messed up.
2:03:43You know what was she doing beforehand?
2:03:45[ __ ] What if I lied and said I was
2:03:47having sex or something? Like come on,
2:03:48man. like it don't matter. The fact of
2:03:50the matter is the person being
2:03:51threatened and it's just like
2:03:56it's really sad. But
2:04:07>> so I think the girl that was in here
2:04:09taking your pictures and stuff, I put
2:04:11that with your property with her.
2:04:15>> Damn.
2:04:15>> I can release it though.
2:04:17>> Yeah, man. could need that money, man.
2:04:19>> That's easy. I can take care of that. I
2:04:20can take care of that easy enough.
2:04:21>> Yeah, cuz that that that the other
2:04:24stuff. Um,
2:04:26so there's 190 or 120. I need that going
2:04:29to the boys to the barber shop though
2:04:31because that money has to go in there
2:04:32for us to make our payment for rent.
2:04:34>> Okay?
2:04:34>> You know what I'm saying? Um cuz I had
2:04:37to use that to pay my cell phone bill
2:04:39this past week. But I have the money,
2:04:41you know. I just need to put it back
2:04:42into the account so that they can make
2:04:44it right. Let let me see what I can do.
2:04:48Will will Michelle handle that for you?
2:04:50>> I mean, if she if I can talk to her, you
2:04:53know what I'm saying? She will
2:04:53definitely do it. She going to make sure
2:04:55that my son's fine. Yeah.
2:04:56>> She [clears throat] not going to even
2:04:57though she don't like me as a person,
2:04:58you know, my you know, she going to make
2:05:00sure that my kid is always taken care
2:05:02of. So, are you good if I just release
2:05:04the money to her
2:05:07and I'll I'll relay to her. Hey, you
2:05:10know, give what you say 190 if you
2:05:13>> No, it's 120 to the barber shop.
2:05:15>> 120 to the barber shop.
2:05:16>> Yeah, it should be 120 to the barber
2:05:17shop because I use the cell phone. Um,
2:05:20use that money to pay the cell phone and
2:05:23then um the remainder of the money can
2:05:26go to her
2:05:27>> take care of
2:05:28>> and then to take care of the girls.
2:05:30>> Okay. Um, I just, like I said, I just I
2:05:33don't want to go into that house.
2:05:35>> You're going to you're going to have you
2:05:36have a chance to to call and talk to her
2:05:39call over there. I think
2:05:40>> from the jail and all that stuff. Okay.
2:05:43>> Is there any way I can get numbers out
2:05:45of um the phone or she already hauled
2:05:47ass with it because it's 2024 and remove
2:05:50everybody number.
2:05:51>> Is there a specific number you're
2:05:53looking for?
2:05:54>> Um, I would like to talk to Britney.
2:05:57>> Get with Get with Nick. I don't know if
2:06:00he can. It's plugged in. I don't know if
2:06:02he can.
2:06:02>> Well, you're That means you're giving us
2:06:04permission to go in there and get these
2:06:05phone numbers.
2:06:06>> Oh, we got to rewrite again. Don't worry
2:06:08about that.
2:06:08>> I don't have to rewrite it.
2:06:09>> Oh, yeah. You're You're going to get
2:06:11Yeah. Yeah. I'm not worried about that.
2:06:13I just You know what I'm saying? I just
2:06:14was trying to get the number so that way
2:06:15I can at least have a number cuz I don't
2:06:18got nobody to call.
2:06:19>> Nobody's nobody's number.
2:06:21>> You know what I'm saying? I don't got no
2:06:22one to call.
2:06:23>> Well, you know Michelle's number, but
2:06:25you need Britney.
2:06:26>> Yeah. which is uh put in there.
2:06:28Actually, you can don't even worry about
2:06:30it. As long as I can call Michelle,
2:06:31Michelle will give me the rest of the
2:06:32and I think in when you go to jail or
2:06:34whatever, I don't know if they give you
2:06:35a damn pistol or anything, but
2:06:37>> yeah, you'd be able to write stuff down.
2:06:40There'll be people be able to get your
2:06:42stuff squared away in there.
2:06:51>> So, what am I being tried as murder?
2:06:54>> Yes.
2:06:55>> That's crazy.
2:06:59And that is on why because if you don't
2:07:02mind me asking, you know, man to man
2:07:04just wondering cuz there was no way,
2:07:07shape or form that I see in my life that
2:07:09I ever said, "Oh, you know what? Let's
2:07:12go play Fortnite." You know what I'm
2:07:13saying? Like,
2:07:14>> well, it's it's a lot more complicated
2:07:17than anything like that. No, I know it
2:07:19breaks down to even the person even
2:07:20whenever they challenging you or they
2:07:22turn left or whatever and they sering a
2:07:23retreat or if you sitting there doing
2:07:25something along those lines. But like I
2:07:27said, man, you know, the guy that was
2:07:29there, he ain't see [ __ ] I know for a
2:07:31fact he ain't see [ __ ]
2:07:32>> Mhm.
2:07:32>> You know what I'm saying? Literally, he
2:07:34just he just rolled up. I paid
2:07:35situational awareness. I told I pay
2:07:37attention to everything or whatever, you
2:07:39know,
2:07:39>> straight up. So,
2:07:41>> I'm just trying to think pin couldn't
2:07:42point to figure out who got the best
2:07:43angle as far as cameras though, cuz I
2:07:45know we have people that got cameras up
2:07:47there. Mhm.
2:07:48>> And that's what I'm trying to figure
2:07:49out, you know? That's the only thing.
2:07:52>> Cameras in the in your shop?
2:07:54>> Nah, it didn't happen in the shop. It
2:07:55happened outside. It just, you know, I
2:07:56want them to see, man. You know, like I
2:07:58said, bro, it's just that's just too
2:08:00much.
2:08:00>> Trash has a camera right outside of his
2:08:02shop.
2:08:03>> Mhm.
2:08:03>> Is there anybody else that has access to
2:08:06his
2:08:06>> That girl Nicole does.
2:08:07>> Nicole does.
2:08:08>> But she probably ain't recorded it
2:08:09because he said it just runs. You know
2:08:12what I'm saying? Like it just runs, you
2:08:14know, 24/7. But the sad part about it is
2:08:16he ain't going to let she she not going
2:08:18to let you get access to it because of
2:08:20the [ __ ] that he was doing down there.
2:08:23You know that's that's that's
2:08:24>> Was he was he doing that out front?
2:08:26>> Yeah, man. You know what I'm saying?
2:08:28They've been notified multiple times or
2:08:29whatever. You know, Elias didn't been
2:08:31down there. That's why you say I showed
2:08:33you on the phone that he was like, "Oh,
2:08:35you know, who is this gray SUV?" I'm
2:08:37like, "Bro, that's like David Elias's
2:08:39personal vehicle. It's old lady's
2:08:41personal vehicle." You know what I'm
2:08:42saying? That's how paranoid you are.
2:08:45>> [snorts]
2:08:45>> I was like, "That's crazy."
2:08:48Like,
2:08:52damn, man.
2:08:54I ain't never in my entire life, bro.
2:08:58Never ever ever like never in my entire
2:09:02thought that I was going to lose my
2:09:03life.
2:09:20Hey, you waiting on
2:09:22the south end. You check sergeant out
2:09:24here in the hall.
2:09:33That was a dumb question, but is there
2:09:35anywhere I can smoke a cigarette?
2:09:41Good time. H. No.
2:09:45>> Yeah. Okay.
2:09:49>> I don't think you want to do anything.
2:09:51>> All right.
2:09:53Where you at?
2:09:58>> Following the interrogation, prosecutors
2:10:00in Florida's fifth judicial circuit move
2:10:02forward with a homicide case against
2:10:04Dwan Demetrius Ross Jr. Ross was
2:10:07formally charged with [music]
2:10:07seconddegree murder with a firearm in
2:10:09connection with the death of 33-year-old
2:10:11Tras C. Johnson. Before trial, the
2:10:14defense pursued a stand your ground
2:10:16immunity motion, arguing [music] that
2:10:17the shooting should be treated as
2:10:19legally justified self-defense.
2:10:21In August [music] of 2025, the Citrus
2:10:24County Circuit Court denied that motion,
2:10:26allowing the prosecution to continue.
2:10:29The case went before [music] a Citrus
2:10:30County jury in January of 2026.
2:10:34Prosecutors argued that the shooting
2:10:35followed a [music] confrontation between
2:10:37two neighboring business owners and that
2:10:40Ross' decision to use a firearm during
2:10:42the altercation was not justified. The
2:10:44defense maintained that Ross acted out
2:10:46of fear [music] during the physical
2:10:47fight. On January 15th, 2026, the jury
2:10:51found Ross guilty of seconddegree murder
2:10:53with a firearm. He was remanded into
2:10:56custody without [music] bond while
2:10:57awaiting sentencing. On February 24th,
2:11:002026, Ross was sentenced to life in
2:11:03Florida State Prison [music] without the
2:11:05possibility of parole. Ross was later
2:11:08transferred into the Florida Department
2:11:09of Corrections. As of the latest custody
2:11:12record in the report, [music] he was
2:11:14housed at Century Correctional
2:11:15Institution. If you found this video
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2:11:23work and allows us to continue covering
2:11:25important stories like this one. Thank
2:11:27you.

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