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0:00You don't meditate to get good at
0:01meditation. We meditate to get good at
0:02life and part of being good at life is
0:05providing for a family and having
0:08partners and having great sex. Like this
0:10is so to like to deny yourself
0:12abundance, to deny yourself sexuality
0:14does not make you closer to God.
0:18Welcome to the Deja Blu podcast where we
0:21believe that living a life of magic can
0:23be the default.
0:25Join us each week as we playfully and
0:27authentically dive into the mysteries of
0:29life and explore what it truly means to
0:31be human.
0:32From spirituality, wellness and all
0:34things taboo, we don't hold anything
0:37back. So without further ado, let's let
0:39the magic unfold. Hello beautiful
0:42humans. Welcome back to another episode
0:44of the Deja Blu podcast. I have had
0:49an outrageous
0:51blast with this woman over the past four
0:54or five days since she has graced this
0:56entire house, the queendom, with her
0:58presence, her light, her magic, her
1:01enthusiasm and excitement for life, her
1:05intricate embodied storytelling that
1:07leaves me on the edge of every single
1:09word of what it is that she's sharing,
1:11her empowerment of the permission that
1:14she has given herself to breathe her
1:16magnificent into the space without
1:18saying sorry, while also maintaining a
1:21very deep level of empathy of her
1:22spatial awareness. That is such a gift
1:25in itself. So just by being in the
1:27presence of this woman, I have met
1:30deeper parts of myself that she doesn't
1:31even know about what we'll uncover on
1:33the podcast, saving the juicy golden
1:35nuggets for all of y'all. And uh
1:38before we even do this podcast, um there
1:40was like something that I was feeling on
1:42my heart and we just raged it out to a
1:44song and anytime Okay, so here was that
1:47was another thing. We had a dance party
1:49at the house the other night and
1:53for me dancing is such an incredible way
1:56of being able to get to know somebody's
1:57soul without a single word.
1:59The way that we choose to move our body.
2:01Now it's not about actually being a
2:03great dancer. It's more so the
2:04permission we give ourselves to feel.
2:07And that is very strong testament to me
2:09around
2:11the permission we give ourselves to feel
2:12in life in general outside of the dance
2:14floor.
2:14And so that shows me the amount of work
2:16that has internally been done to meet
2:19one's self, one's own edges and one's
2:22entirety of all of our emotions. And so
2:25when I had Emily Fletcher come meet me
2:27on the dance floor the other night,
2:29I'll tell you I'm feeling it. I'm
2:30vibing. I'm having a great time. And all
2:32of a sudden enters Emily stage right.
2:34And she just locks eye dead looks at me
2:37dead in the eye and she get down and up
2:40and sideways and everything in between,
2:42knee sliding across the room, riding
2:44brooms, doing performances, laughing,
2:46dancing. And the liberation that is
2:49flying off of you is just these
2:51invisible permission slips that just
2:53rest so deeply in the core of my being
2:55that they last so much longer than the
2:57present moment. And I've received so
3:00much medicine from the essence of who
3:01you are. So that's like my personal
3:02experience of your radiance and I've
3:06been able to witness the
3:08empowerment, the transmissions, the
3:10activations, the liberation of shame and
3:12guilt, what you've done for group
3:13settings at Burning Man and there's just
3:15been different spaces that I've
3:16witnessed your
3:18uh your activations at Arcardia
3:22uh and then it's just been these last
3:24few days that I've really actually got
3:26to know you you and you are consistently
3:30epic across the board. So it's not just
3:32who you are when you're standing on
3:34stage, but it's also who you are from
3:35the moment you wake up and we're doing
3:36our saunas and our cold plunging and all
3:38of the beautiful things in between. And
3:40so that's outside of my own personal
3:41experience, you're also a
3:43incredible author,
3:45um writer, entrepreneur. You guide
3:48hundreds of thousands of people around
3:50the world into a deeper
3:51Ziva meditation practice. Uh you host
3:54retreats all around the world. You have
3:57introduced so many people into deeper
3:59levels of sec magic and the liberation
4:00beyond their shame and their guilt. Uh
4:03you're also a mother of incredible son
4:05Jasper who is a soon-to-be
4:08paleontologist.
4:09Little known fact.
4:12And all around incredible sister, lover,
4:14muse and inspiration and mother to all
4:17so many of us. So Emily Fletcher,
4:19welcome to the Deja Blu podcast. I I
4:21don't think I've ever cried so many
4:23times in an intro. That was like three
4:25tear jerkers. Wow, Blu. Being seen by
4:29you is such a gift. I admire you so
4:32much. Your impeccability of spirit, your
4:36profundity of imagination and now like
4:38your playfulness that I am just starting
4:41to get to know is such an honor to be in
4:44the presence of. And so thank you that
4:45mirror, that reflection really means a
4:47lot to me. Thank you.
4:50It's been so It really is um rare and
4:53also such a
4:55such a beautiful gift to be met by a
4:56sister and not only be met by a sister,
4:58but be celebrated and cherished and seen
5:02and inspired by. And something that
5:04really stands strong for the way that
5:06you weave in spaces is that you are a
5:08curious person. You're interested.
5:10You're interested to ask really great
5:12questions. You listen intently to the
5:14response and then you reflect the beauty
5:15that you see, which I believe is a
5:16three-step process to melt the heart of
5:18anybody. And I don't even know if you
5:20knew the context of those three steps,
5:22which dropped in for me a few years ago,
5:23but the way that you weave in the space,
5:25I'm like, oh, she's picked up on that.
5:27Even though probably not have the
5:28context for it, but the way that you
5:30enter space, there's two ways, right?
5:32You're a very interesting human.
5:34However, there's two ways that we can
5:35present to the world. We can be an
5:37interesting human or an interested
5:39person.
5:40And I found that sometimes when people
5:42are very interesting, they then just
5:45talk about themselves all the time
5:46because they're interesting, right?
5:48There's a lot of stories to share.
5:50However, the magnetism is activated in
5:53the presence of somebody that's a very
5:54interesting person, but they're
5:55interested.
5:56And you 1,000%
5:59are an interested human.
6:01And so It's like how do you get to be
6:04interesting without being interested?
6:07I mean, well how do you get to be
6:08interesting without being interested?
6:10Interested, right? Like you have to you
6:11have to absorb the stories of others.
6:13You have to absorb the knowledge of
6:14others. You have to absorb the
6:15transmissions of others in order to
6:17become interesting.
6:18Right. Yeah. Uh
6:19100%. Yeah, I didn't even like really
6:21lace the two together, but that makes
6:23perfect sense. If you genuinely are an
6:25interested person, then it's because
6:27it's a byproduct of listening deeply,
6:29which is I think that's what you've
6:30essentially done for so much of your
6:32life as you've absorbed, listened,
6:33learned and then created your own
6:35version of and created your own
6:36fingerprint of. And also from the
6:38stillness of of your own latent genius,
6:41you've then been activating places and
6:43and and and pieces within others. And I
6:46There's something that I just really
6:47want to dive into straight off the bat.
6:50Is
6:52the way that you weave in the world hold
6:53doesn't feel like it holds much shame
6:55and guilt. Mm. And specifically around
6:57your eros, your pleasure, your pleasure
6:59practice of sex magic and what you've
7:01been speaking into recently.
7:03And I'm curious what your journey has
7:05looked like for you around the
7:07liberation of your own shame and your
7:08guilt specifically around your eros and
7:10your sensuality because the way that you
7:11walk into a space and the way that you
7:13claim your presence and the way that
7:14you're not apologizing for your presence
7:16is so inspiring to me and also
7:19illuminating where I'm still kind of
7:21shrinking a little bit.
7:22Mm. Um and so I'd love to hear a little
7:23bit about your journey. If Surely you
7:25didn't come out I mean maybe you did
7:27come out of your mama's womb just
7:29claiming that [ __ ] but like there must
7:30have been like an unlearning and a
7:31relearning along the way. Yeah, so
7:33actually the funny that you bring up
7:34coming out of my mother's womb because
7:36that my mom jokes that I was born on
7:38stage. There was actually like she was
7:40at a teaching hospital and there was
7:41like a whole team of nurses that that
7:43watched my birth. And it was actually
7:45recorded.
7:48And
7:50and and so but it was actually very
7:51dramatic cuz I was three weeks
7:53premature. I had a heart murmur and I
7:54had jaundice and they told my mom I was
7:56going to die.
7:57And and there was an audio tape of it,
7:59like a cassette tape cuz I'm
8:0143 years old. I was born in 1979. So
8:03they made a cassette tape recording of
8:05it. And I remember listening to it when
8:07I was a little girl and feeling like I
8:09probably should not be listening to this
8:11right now. Like I didn't really know
8:12what trauma was, but I was like, this is
8:14probably not a good idea to listen to my
8:17own birth, but I did. Um but I then I
8:20grew up Southern Baptist. Like I'm from
8:21Tallahassee, Florida. I grew up Southern
8:23Baptist and there was a lot of shame
8:25around sexuality, a lot of you know, we
8:28don't talk about that. Self pleasuring
8:30is a sin. It's just for a man and a
8:32woman. You only have sex after you're
8:33married. Like all of that. You know, the
8:35stuff that most people are swimming in,
8:37that conditioning and indoctrination
8:39that most of the world is swimming in to
8:41some degree.
8:42And I remember even at a young age like
8:44having this sweaty man in a khaki suit
8:47yelling from the pulpit telling me what
8:49I shouldn't do with my body and being
8:50like, that is not it.
8:52And then I got to college
8:54and I started studying musical theater
8:56cuz that was when I felt the closest to
8:57God. And so I was singing and dancing
8:59and acting.
9:01I loved it so much, but what I loved was
9:03actually the unity that was created in
9:05the people. Right? Like being on stage
9:07with a group of people dancing in
9:09unison, singing in harmony, all working
9:11towards this creative goal. Like that
9:14felt like divine play to me. But the
9:17thing I would always get cast as was the
9:18[ __ ] Like I would joke that I I'm so
9:21diverse, I could be an English [ __ ] a
9:22French [ __ ] a German [ __ ] an
9:24American [ __ ]
9:25Oh, the 50 shades of [ __ ]
9:28And so even though I I it was a
9:30character, it was roles that I was
9:31playing when I was dancing in my
9:33sexuality then. And then I got on
9:34Broadway. And I was on Broadway for 10
9:36years and I became world-class
9:39at making people want me.
9:41Mm.
9:42I was professional at knowing how to be
9:45wanted, to move every part of my body,
9:47move my eyes, like bring people in, be
9:51like the embodiment of
9:54this It's showgirl, right? And but I did
9:58not know want.
9:59I did not know my own desire until very
10:03recently.
10:04And so, you know, I was very much
10:06sitting quietly in a chair teaching
10:08meditation, speaking about neuroscience,
10:10framing the stuff as a high-performance
10:12tool, which I'm very proud of, but then
10:142 years ago, almost 3 years ago, my life
10:17really radically changed when I I asked
10:20for a divorce, and then 3 weeks later I
10:22met Layla Martin, your roommate, my now
10:25best friend, world-famous tantra
10:27teacher,
10:28and my cosmic lover Adam, and then a few
10:32months later I moved in with Regina
10:33Thomashauser, aka Mama Gina.
10:36And so all three of these people in my
10:38life have been these huge liberating
10:40forces, you know, just I mean, talk
10:42about walking permission slip, you know,
10:44like that they've dedicated their whole
10:46lives to deconditioning themselves and
10:47deconditioning hundreds of thousands of
10:50other people. And so I've had the the
10:52very good fortune of of intimately
10:54weaving with these people, and anything
10:56that was left,
10:59any shame, any conditioning, any stories
11:01left have really um transmuted over
11:04these past few years. So it's like I
11:05already knew how to tap into that eros,
11:08right? Like if I've been dancing with it
11:09my whole life. To be on stage and to be
11:10magnetic, you have to play with sexual
11:12energy, even if you're not doing it
11:13consciously. Like I watched Hugh Jackman
11:16in a Broadway show a few months ago, and
11:18I was like, oh, like now that I can see
11:20it, now that I can see sexual energy,
11:22like this man is a masterful. He's
11:25basically making love to 3,000 people at
11:27the same time energetically.
11:29That's why he's so charismatic. But I
11:32don't know that I consciously could see
11:34that before.
11:35So it's been this combo platter of like
11:37natural aptitude to tap into it,
11:41and then really good fortune of calling
11:44in and magnetizing great people.
11:47And
11:48I still have a lot of work to do.
11:50I still have a lot a lot of work to do.
11:55Well, from my own personal experience
11:56witnessing you guiding others in their
12:00self-pleasure practice and um activating
12:03the the frequency of pleasure in a group
12:06environment. So I come in
12:08from this
12:10I don't know, British boarding school
12:12upbringing, and you know how the Brits
12:14are, and really yeah, you did stiff
12:16upper lip. That that goes that goes with
12:18your your monogamous partner and
12:21everything else. That's not allowed,
12:23slut-shaming slut-shaming
12:26and um being called a [ __ ] and all
12:28these things like really basic stuff was
12:30just sort of like my childhood. So
12:32then when those labels are no longer
12:35present, well, who becomes the
12:37perpetrator? I do. So I didn't realize
12:41how much of a cage that I had placed my
12:43eros in until I was in the presence of
12:45you and Layla and Regina and being able
12:48to have the blessing of being able to
12:50witness you all, and then the way that I
12:52you've entered into my reality has been
12:55I mean, you're wearing you know, like
12:57like fully dialed, you're leading a
12:59whole group of individuals, like full
13:01power activation,
13:03um witnessing you on Aubrey Marcus'
13:05podcast and talking about sex magic,
13:07um and so from my perspective, you've
13:09been able to gift me what what Layla and
13:13Regina have gifted you, and so um the
13:16power of a woman that has reclaimed her
13:18sensual and sexual energy is A going to
13:21trigger
13:22and B going to liberate.
13:24But the trigger ultimately is that to
13:25teach us something. So I would love to
13:28hear a little bit about your journey
13:29around So in this reclamation, of
13:31course, there's an acknowledgement that
13:33there's so much more also to to go, and
13:35at the same time,
13:37how do you navigate the projections of
13:40shame and guilt that is placed on you
13:42because
13:44you're a powerful woman that's claiming
13:46her worth.
13:47So that's also going to bring up the the
13:49forces of jealousy and denial within
13:51others.
13:52What
13:55I almost
13:57I'm a little afraid to speak this
13:59because I don't want to jinx it, but I
14:02have had like the most charmed path so
14:06far.
14:08Like it has just been like golden
14:09footstep after golden foot. Like the
14:11path just keeps illuminating itself, and
14:13I don't know if this is outrageous
14:15bravery or just blind naivete,
14:18or if if the world is actually just
14:21changing frequencies and if that we are
14:23really on on the precipice of this new
14:26sexual revolution, which I think is
14:28actually the truth. Because I've always
14:30I've always been able if I have one
14:32superpower, it is being able to feel
14:35like what's next, like what's about to
14:37be the next thing. Like I started the
14:39world's first online meditation training
14:40in 2013.
14:42I had spent 10 months building it. I
14:44spent $25,000 building this course,
14:46which was more money that I had made in
14:48a year,
14:49and and I I 6 weeks leading up to it,
14:51and I did a call, my first sales call,
14:53and three people signed up.
14:56Like I made like $700
14:58on a $25,000 investment, and I was like,
15:01oh, no. I've made a horrible mistake.
15:04And my ex-husband, much to his credit,
15:06was like, stay in the game, stay in the
15:08game, like it's just not yet, not yet.
15:10And I feel like we're just And so I had
15:12that moment that moment with meditation,
15:14where like, why isn't everyone doing
15:15this? And now everyone is. Like
15:17meditation is so mainstream, there's
15:19millions of apps, there's millions of
15:20YouTube channels. And I feel like we're
15:22there with sacred sexuality. I feel like
15:25we're just on the precipice of people
15:26really starting to learn that we can use
15:28the most creative force that we have in
15:30order to manifest. And so to be a bridge
15:34in that feels like my role to play in
15:36this. So I've not actually received too
15:39much shame or blowback, but I've also
15:41been so far a little under wraps, you
15:44know, like I've been keeping it a little
15:46close to my chest sort of until the
15:48release of this new podcast that I'm
15:50birthing in the studio, and um and so I
15:54don't know if that blowback is coming,
15:56or if my ability to articulate sort of
15:59triggering esoteric concepts in a way
16:01that is both attractive and accessible
16:03is is um
16:05protecting me from that. So remains to
16:08be seen. Regina keeps warning me. She's
16:09like, Emily, like, are you sure? Are you
16:12sure you want to do this? You're going
16:13to get your heartbroken again and again
16:15and again.
16:16So far it's been like sunshine and
16:19roses.
16:21I 1,000% um I'm picking up on that piece
16:24around the depth of your claiming and
16:28the aligned essence of your belief
16:31is therefore not creating it to be as
16:33much of a prominent vibrational um a
16:37match to
16:40those that are questioning. Yeah. But if
16:43there's any aspect of our psyche, for
16:44example, like if we start a new program
16:47and we price it at X amount, and then
16:50there's this little voice inside of my
16:51head being like, who the heck do you
16:53think you are? How can you get away with
16:55that? What are you doing? So then I then
16:58for example, put it out, and then all of
17:00a sudden, who do you think you are?
17:03AND THEN IT'S LIKE, OH, YEAH, WAIT, WHO
17:06AM I? YOU KNOW WHAT? I'M going to give
17:07it for free. I'm going to pay you.
17:10You take my course, I'm going to pay
17:11you.
17:12Exactly, because it it's a match to the
17:14part within our own psyche. However,
17:16that's been one of the consistent things
17:18that I felt with your presence is this
17:20this depth of claiming
17:22that I'm just so fascinated by, inspired
17:26by, activated by, and um
17:29giving me the opportunity to look at
17:30myself of where could I claim a little
17:32bit more. Um I would love for you to
17:35just share
17:37you know, you talk about utilizing
17:39pleasure
17:40as an opportunity to manifest what you
17:42want to create. Love for you to break
17:43down what that you're talking about,
17:45right? I'm coming from like I I
17:47understand because I've also like been
17:49in the parameters of of these incredible
17:51what we call sex witches.
17:54Uh however, for those that are listening
17:55and tuning in that that got this on
17:57their headphones and they're on a walk
17:58with the dog, um and if you're on a walk
18:00with your dog with the headphones on,
18:02this one is for you.
18:04Um what is this? What is What is the
18:07ability to utilize that sexual sensual
18:09energy
18:11to
18:12direct it into a position that is placed
18:15with that attention and intention. Yeah.
18:17So I've been teaching manifesting for a
18:19long time, right? Like that's Ziva. It's
18:21mindfulness, meditation, and
18:22manifesting. And there are some key
18:24ingredients in order to be an effective
18:26manifestor. You have to have a clear
18:28intention, you have to have a burning
18:30desire, you want to take inspired
18:32action, detachment, like these are all
18:34the key ingredients. So when you start
18:36to add pleasure to that equation, you're
18:38basically supercharging
18:41the manifestation that's already in
18:42place. So
18:44to be very honest, manifesting is an
18:46advanced technique. I actually I
18:48at Ziva, I have people learn to meditate
18:50first to tap into the unmanifest first,
18:53to remind themselves that they are
18:55actually God pretending to be human
18:56first, to flood their brains and bodies
18:59with dopamine and serotonin, so that
19:00they have access to that visceral
19:02reality, that their bliss is only ever
19:04found inside. We do all of that first.
19:07Because if you're trying to manifest
19:09from a place of lack or need or less
19:11than, then we get into the I'll be happy
19:12when syndrome, and we start to have a
19:13death grip on our desires, and we think
19:15that those desires will make us happy.
19:17And that is um a recipe for not
19:19manifesting. It's a recipe for
19:21frustration.
19:22And so if if from prayer or art or
19:26however it is that you remind yourself
19:28that you are the ocean inside of the
19:30wave,
19:31um from that place, we simply ask the
19:33question like, what would I love?
19:36What would I love?
19:38And then we listen.
19:40We listen. What would I love? Not what
19:41do I need? Not what do I want? Not
19:43what's going to look good on Instagram,
19:44but like, what would my soul love?
19:47And then there might be something
19:48standing in the way of that, some some
19:50disbelief, something just a funk. And
19:52then we want to clear the channel,
19:54right? So that might look like
19:56a rage journal or punching a pillow or
19:58doing an angry dance like we just did or
20:01having a good cry. Like anything to just
20:03open up the vessel, clear the channel.
20:06Um reclaiming your pleasure. For for so
20:08many they've been shamed to think that
20:09it's not theirs, that it's wrong or
20:11dirty or bad. So some sort of a
20:13reclamation practices might be dancing
20:14in front of a mirror.
20:16Um and then from that space of sort of
20:19clarity on the dream, a clear channel,
20:22then we start to build the charge.
20:24Which you don't have to do this with
20:26sexual pleasure, right? Like you could
20:27do it with breath, you could do it with
20:29dance.
20:30Um you could do it simply by like, you
20:31know, massaging your hands if you like.
20:33It's just easier honestly if you are
20:36pleasuring yourself because it's such a
20:37direct access to so much
20:41like so many powerful internal
20:44chemicals.
20:45Dopamine, serotonin, oxytocin,
20:48endorphins, norepinephrine, which again
20:50are all of the chemicals that we need to
20:52train our body that our dream is safe.
20:54Mhm. So many of us are scared of our
20:56dreams. And so when the opportunity
20:58comes, which it will because you
20:59wouldn't even have the desire if it was
21:01not already on the way, right? The
21:02desires are divinely manifested. So the
21:04desire is actually just the breeze that
21:06precedes the train in the subway tunnel.
21:08Mhm. Right? And so what we do when we
21:11embody the manifestation, it's like
21:13we're readying ourselves for the
21:15opportunity that's already on the way.
21:16So that you get to feel to like make
21:19love to your dream. Mhm. So that when it
21:22shows up, you feel deserving.
21:24You feel ready and that you start to
21:26vibrate at the same frequency of the
21:29dream. Cuz so many of us when we're
21:31manifesting something big, there's a
21:32piece of that still feels unworthy.
21:34And when you get out of And that happens
21:36in the mind, right? That fear, that
21:38unworthiness that happens in the mind.
21:40So these are really embodied manifesting
21:42tools. So it's like we're bringing that
21:43desire into the body and swirling it. So
21:46I I talk in terms of um
21:49I'm trying to make this language really
21:50accessible for folks. So what I'm I'm
21:52calling this is pleasure prayer. Just
21:54simply using your pleasure to pray. As
21:56we build the charge in our hoo-ha, which
21:58again is like a really simple a really
22:00simple term that is all genders, male,
22:03female, trans, cis, all genders. And it
22:05includes the anatomy and the energy
22:07center. Mhm. Um so we start to build
22:09that charge in the hoo-ha, we let it
22:10build all the way up into the heart, and
22:12then all the way up into the head. And
22:14the moment of peak pleasure, it's like
22:16you're dedicating that that energy to
22:20your vision, to the thing that you want
22:21to create. And And that's a really
22:23foreign idea for a lot of people too
22:25that you could actually dedicate your
22:26pleasure to something. Mhm. Because it's
22:29we're in this like sort of
22:31masculine zero sum like goal-oriented,
22:35well, let me just like get off and be
22:37done, right? Or just stress release. Or
22:39it's like a I think Regina calls this
22:41and I am sorry, but she calls it a
22:43crotch sneeze.
22:47Which I you could never unhear that
22:48term.
22:50But this is a very different practice,
22:52right? This could take 20 minutes, an
22:53hour. And it's it's really about simply
22:57building the pleasure and the charge in
22:58your body and dedicating it to your
23:00dream. Now the cool thing is every
23:01single time we orgasm,
23:03um we don't make a baby.
23:06Right? Because if we did, it would be
23:07very crowded on Earth.
23:10And so like thank goodness that doesn't
23:12happen every single time. And yet we
23:14have that level of creative power
23:17available to us in that orgasmic state.
23:20And so it's like where are we directing
23:21that? The veil is thin. And when I ask
23:23people how they feel after they orgasm,
23:25it's usually
23:27peaceful, blissful,
23:30connected, pure,
23:33beyond myself,
23:35melted, joyous. And And that is a really
23:39powerful place to manifest from. Much
23:42more powerful than like you're driving
23:44to work, picking up your kids, going to
23:45get milk, got to get the dog food before
23:47your vacation. Like to manifest from
23:48that stressy, fear place, it's there's
23:51no fertile soil for the seeds to take
23:53root. Mhm.
23:55Mhm.
23:56How do you see pleasure and sensual
23:59sexual energy, building that energy, and
24:01the um difference in the manifestation
24:04quality of laughter?
24:06Ah. I said this to you my boyfriend
24:08yesterday. He went to a comedy show last
24:09night. It's the opening of a new show um
24:12in Austin. And I said, "Hey, Blue on my
24:15podcast said that, you know, when you're
24:17in aisle three at the grocery store an
24:19orgasm is not available to you, play is,
24:22laughter is. It is a release. It is this
24:25like you're in on the cosmic joke.
24:27You're flooding Again, you're flooding
24:29your brain and body with beautiful
24:30endogenous bliss chemicals." And so I
24:33invited him. He was going with his
24:34co-founders and friends. I was like,
24:35"What if you guys use this as a
24:36collective prayer time?" And so he
24:39didn't use it as a collective prayer,
24:40but he did himself. He was like in this
24:42heightened ecstatic cuz laughter is an
24:44is its own ecstatic state, right? There
24:46is like laughter meditation, laughter
24:48yoga where you just laugh and laugh and
24:50laugh. And And so he did. He would place
24:52some orders from these heightened
24:54elevated states. So I think, you know,
24:56you're right. Like if if if sensuality
24:59or
25:00um
25:01erotic energy is not available to you
25:03for any zillions of reasons that it's
25:05not, you know, you're with your mom uh
25:08at at church or something, then yes, we
25:10can use laughter and play. Mhm. You do
25:13it so well with your son. And it is such
25:16a gift to witness the way that you
25:17interact with your son. Your son is
25:19nine?
25:20He'll be five.
25:21Oh, five. I know. It's He seems like
25:23he's nine.
25:24He's so like
25:26he's so youthful, of course, but like so
25:28developed. Like his conversation, his
25:31communication, his presentation of his
25:33paleo intelligent dinosaur project with
25:34his friends and the way that he's
25:36describing it to them. The way his
25:37friends are so interested in what he's
25:39got to say as opposed to be like, "Oh,
25:40boring." They're so fascinated. They're
25:42asking questions. He's been playing
25:44drums and dancing. But the most
25:46important thing is that you're right by
25:47his side as his student, laughing and
25:49playing with him. And I see when you
25:52weave with him that you see through his
25:53eyes and therefore receive the gift of
25:56magic that is always around us.
25:59However, as adults we've become
26:00disconnected with that latent genius
26:03that you have rekindled, reactivated
26:06within your relationship with Jasper.
26:08And I think that this is like prime
26:10manifestation space, too. If you two are
26:12laughing together in the genius of
26:14finding the magic in the mundane. Yes.
26:16And he really is my biggest teacher. And
26:19thank you for like reintroducing these
26:21concepts of of play and laughter as
26:23manifesting tools cuz I don't think I
26:25would have connected those dots Mhm. uh
26:28so easily. So truly thank you for that
26:30gift. Um and yeah, he's well I can't
26:32wait for you all to really meet and drop
26:34in cuz he's so special.
26:36wait to play. He's so special. So you're
26:39also the queen of meditation.
26:41Um and you have a course called Ziva.
26:45Um and there have been hundreds of
26:47thousands of people that have gone
26:48through this program.
26:49Well, 50 so far. 50,000.
26:5150,000? Okay, so we're almost there.
26:5350,000.
26:54is one click away from 100.
26:55Yeah, yeah, yeah.
26:56It took me 10 years to do 50, but let's
26:57go for the next 100 in the next 50,000
26:59is a lot of humans, though. Yeah, and
27:01just to clarify, it's not like 50,000
27:02people have downloaded an app. Like
27:0450,000 people have like gone through a
27:0615-day training and learned to do this
27:08on their own where they don't need me
27:09anymore cuz I'm really big on
27:11self-sufficiency and now have like a
27:13twice-a-day practice that they can do
27:15for the rest of their lives. So how do
27:17you teach meditation, right? Because we
27:18I think that we've got this expe- or
27:20this idea collectively, maybe, that when
27:24you meditate, you close your eyes, but
27:25it's more so just like thinking with
27:26your eyes closed. Mhm. But like how do
27:29you teach meditation? How do you get
27:32people into a place of being like, "Ah,
27:34four kids
27:36and I got a day job and I got all these
27:38responsibilities. Why is meditation
27:40important? How do I get started? And why
27:42would it be important for me to take
27:44some sort of course when
27:46the general perspective of meditation is
27:48just close your eyes?"
27:50Well, some Well,
27:51I mean, try it. You know what I mean?
27:52Like you are not a good data point,
27:54okay? So like
27:56you're like a very special fish. But for
27:58most people, if they just close their
28:01eyes, like that's what their parents did
28:02to them to torture them for punishment.
28:04Go to time out. People When I mean, I
28:07anyone listening, like when's the last
28:08time you sat down and closed your eyes
28:10and didn't do anything for 3 minutes,
28:134 minutes? Probably for most people,
28:15never. They weren't listening to a song,
28:17journaling, you know, actively thinking
28:20about something
28:22or or sleeping. Right? And so it's not
28:25something that we're trained at. And And
28:27I really would argue that meditation is
28:29a skill.
28:30And And it's fascinating to me that
28:32people won't take the time to learn a
28:34skill that is going to optimize the
28:36thing that is making every single
28:39decision in our lives and printing every
28:41single cell in our bodies. We're like,
28:44"Oh, I don't have time to meditate." I'm
28:45like, "What the [ __ ] else are you
28:47doing?"
28:49Like truly. Like cuz people don't
28:51understand how much stress is costing
28:54us. Like it is truly making us stupid,
28:57sick, and slow. And if you look
28:59globally, you know, I mean, there's so
29:00many shifts happening, but the whole
29:01world went through basically a
29:03near-death experience. The whole world
29:04faced its mortality in a different way,
29:07you know, over the past few years. And
29:09so the ripple effect of that is that
29:11some people It's woken some people up,
29:13you know, you face death and it wakes
29:14you up, it makes you really live. For
29:16some people, it was very traumatizing
29:18and and really created many many many
29:20layers of stress. And now we see that
29:22stress
29:25playing out in this fight or flight. So
29:27many people are looking for an enemy,
29:28they're looking for someone to blame.
29:29And now there's this unprocessed trauma.
29:31Even like even for me, like in New York
29:33City, I had an amazing friend group of
29:3524 people. 23 of them left New York in
29:38the pandemic. And like that was like a
29:40bougie high-class problem as far as
29:43problems go with COVID. But still losing
29:45my friend group felt traumatic. And I
29:46didn't do a therapy session on that. I
29:48didn't do any tapping on that. So, I
29:50have this like unprocessed stress in my
29:53body from that. And that's just one tiny
29:54little drop of the collective stress
29:56that the planet has gone through. And
29:58so, we're seeing the ripple effect of
29:59that now where we're where we're
30:00bifurcating. You're the enemy. You're
30:02the enemy. They're the enemy. We're all
30:03looking to fight something. Mhm. When
30:06actually, if collectively we were to get
30:08into stay and play, if we were to get
30:10into that sympathetic nervous system or
30:13parasympathetic, right? That rest and
30:15digest, we wouldn't be so quick to be
30:17looking for an enemy or someone to
30:19blame. We would actually just have more
30:21resilience to feel it. So, actually have
30:23on my last retreat, I had a woman who
30:25has 10 children. Not one, not two, not
30:28three.
30:2810? 10. You need a mini bus. Yeah. Yeah.
30:33I mean, really like a total mystery to
30:35me, but she meditates every day twice a
30:36day. I have taught CEOs of Fortune 500
30:39companies, like Oscar award winners, NBA
30:42players, like people who are really
30:44{quote} {unquote} busy. Mark Hyman says
30:46that he now
30:48when he does Ziva, it gives him back 3
30:50hours in his day. So, a lot of the drum
30:53that I've been beating over the past 10
30:54years has been like, "Hey, this thing is
30:56going to give you more time. It's going
30:58to make you more money. It's going to
31:00make your sex better." And so, I very
31:02much was wrapping the powerful medicine
31:04of meditation in the candy coating of
31:07sex and money.
31:08And which that's true.
31:10Like those that's true. And then it
31:13creates this beautiful foundation to to
31:15build these other spiritual practices on
31:17top of. Mhm.
31:18So, I woke up this morning, and I was
31:20walking around the the house, and I had
31:22no idea. Didn't even realize you were in
31:24the corner of the room meditating and
31:25just having your little moment in your
31:27little space to just drop into that
31:28solitude. And even though there was my
31:30noise moving around the house and
31:32talking to the dog, before I realized
31:33that you were actually meditating, I was
31:35when I I looked over at you, and there
31:36was just this this peacefulness and this
31:38stillness that was just emanating all
31:40around you from this constant every
31:43single day twice a day or once a day?
31:45Twice a day. Mhm. To check in
31:48with the center. And and what I've
31:50noticed is even just when I look at you
31:52in that state, I see you
31:55like a grand oak tree. And your roots
31:58are going deeper and deeper and deeper
32:00into the center of the earth. So, that
32:01then, you know, things happen. A podcast
32:03and this and then a plate smashed and
32:06dogs over here barking and then this
32:07happens and this is just, you know,
32:09whatever. Like get the text message from
32:10the thing that you didn't want to hear.
32:12So, the wind is blowing. However, the
32:15tree is only as sturdy as the depth of
32:17the roots. Mhm. And the depth of the
32:19roots is a contribu- contribution of
32:22every morning and every night,
32:24non-negotiable, you drop into that place
32:26of stillness so that then when you're in
32:28the presence of stress, strong energy,
32:31or conversation that's challenging, you
32:34feel so grounded and rooted in your
32:36presence that when the wind blows, the
32:39tree's not being uprooted. It may sway
32:40slightly, but it's not going anywhere.
32:44Thank you for that reflection. And and
32:46one thing I wanted to say is when when
32:48you're like, "You claim so much, but you
32:49don't apologize." When I was in college,
32:52I went to Florida State University. I
32:54was a theater major.
32:55FSU? FSU. Go Noles, baby.
32:58That's a party school. It I was the
32:59number one party school when I was
33:00there.
33:01Yeah. Yeah. Just I might have
33:02contributed to that. We're rich country.
33:04I can definitely see you upside down on
33:06a beer barrel.
33:07Oh, yeah. I definitely did like what are
33:09they called? Like headstands keg stands
33:11for my 21st birthday.
33:13Yeah. I came out from
33:14from
33:16England, and I was in like military
33:18boarding school. And um
33:21I went to college in Florida. Oh. Yeah.
33:24Um
33:25in between Tampa and Orlando in in
33:27Lakeland. Oh. It was a small private
33:29college. What school? Um Florida
33:31Southern College. FSU? No, FSC. FSC. So
33:35close to you.
33:36FSU was you. FSC was me.
33:38All these letters.
33:40Um yeah, so I wasn't that far away from
33:41you, but Florida's a party place.
33:43Yeah, it's it's a whole 'nother
33:45university down there. But I remember
33:46this one time we would have a call
33:47board, and the call board is where they
33:49would put like they here's the new cast
33:51of the new show, and here's the new
33:53schedule. It's like it was like nervous
33:55system of the whole theater school. And
33:57I went up to look and see like, you
34:00know, did I get the lead? Did I get the
34:01role that I auditioned for? And I was
34:03trying to make my way to the front. I
34:04was like, "Oh, sorry. Oh, excuse me. I'm
34:07I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry." And I
34:10apologized like six times on the way to
34:12the board. And this this senior girl
34:13pulls me aside. I was a freshman. And
34:15she was like, "Stop apologizing.
34:18You don't have anything to apologize
34:19for." I was like, "Oh, I'm so sorry."
34:22I was like apologizing for apologizing.
34:24And so, it got on my radar. So, the fact
34:27that you say that back to me is actually
34:28like a really big compliment. But then
34:31when I was acting and then teaching
34:32acting and helping run auditions, it
34:35tells you so much when you're behind the
34:37table and you watch a thousand people
34:38come into a room wanting a job,
34:41and how many people walk in and it's
34:43like, "Oh, is it okay if I get sit this
34:45chair? Oh, I'm so sorry. Can I Is it uh
34:49and they're just so uncertain, so
34:51unsure, so apologetic for their very
34:53existence. And it makes you nervous. It
34:56makes you nervous to be around that
34:57energy. And so, that's when I started to
34:59really cultivate it like, "If anyone
35:01deserves to be here, I deserve to be
35:03here, too." Um my friend Susan Blackwell
35:06says, "No one above, no one below,
35:07haters to the left." Like no one's
35:09better than you, no one's worse than
35:11you.
35:11above, no one below, haters to the left.
35:15I love
35:16it. Yeah, that feels like a very blueish
35:17slogan. That's brilliant.
35:20That's great. Okay. Yeah.
35:22Actually, you should have Susan
35:23Blackwell on if you're interested. She's
35:25in a brilliant She's a Tony
35:26award-winning writer, performer. She
35:28consults with Disney and Pixar. Whenever
35:32I give talks, I hire her to like help me
35:36craft it and just like make it like
35:39like make sure that the the essence of
35:41what I want to communicate comes
35:42through. If I I've scripted a talk
35:44literally one time in my life, but the
35:45one time that I did, I hired Susan.
35:49Oh, that sounds amazing. And what I'm
35:51also receiving here is that
35:53sisterhood has been such a huge
35:55implementing part of your path.
35:57Yeah. From your experience with Layla to
36:01Mama Gina Regina,
36:04to the women in your life that have
36:06like, you know, even this woman that
36:07pulled you aside and was like, "Stop
36:09complaining." Oh, and stop stop stop
36:10stop complaining. Stop apologizing for
36:13your very existence.
36:14And then then in return, the permission
36:17that you've also granted me in your
36:19presence. Like there's there's something
36:20that there's a theme here that I'm
36:21picking up on. Would love for you to
36:23just speak into the role that sisterhood
36:26has played in the evolution of your
36:27consciousness and the claiming of the
36:28magic of who you are today.
36:30Yeah, so what's so funny is I just had
36:31this thought this morning because
36:33as I was getting ready and doing my
36:34makeup, I was on a Zoom call with um
36:37this thing called Council of Queens, and
36:39it's an entrepreneur group. I think
36:40there's eight of us. It's like eight
36:42female entrepreneurs in the wellness
36:44space, and we've been doing it now for
36:46about 9 months, I think. We meet once a
36:48month, 2 hours. And it's just a place to
36:51bring our greatest successes, our
36:53greatest challenges um because it is so
36:56unusual. It's like less than 3% of of
37:01um
37:02like less than 3% of female-owned
37:05businesses cross the seven-figure mark.
37:08And that's like an abysmal figure. 3%.
37:123%? 3% of female-owned businesses cross
37:14the seven-figure mark. Yeah. And so,
37:16it's a really
37:18tiny It's like a small pool. And so, to
37:21be able to support each other and help
37:23each other and ask those questions. And
37:25because just like sex is shamed, so is
37:27money. And for it to be a woman who's
37:29making money, and certainly a woman in
37:31the spiritual space making money, it's
37:33like, "How dare you? You know, you you
37:36should not want to put your son in
37:38school or wear clothes or pay rent." And
37:41it's just the fact that we're willing to
37:43like that it's totally fine for
37:45petroleum executives to make hundreds of
37:47millions of dollars, but if someone
37:49who's teaching meditation and raising
37:51the consciousness of the planet, they
37:52should be poor because that is holy.
37:55Like I I It's a podcast for another day.
37:57But sisterhood. Right before I got here,
38:00I was on a call.
38:00that's a whole subject in itself. I'm so
38:02down to go down that path. Great.
38:04Honestly. So, I was on this Council of
38:06Queens. I mean, we're in Queendom West.
38:08I live in Queendom East. So, like that
38:10sisterhood feels really strong to me. I
38:12have an amazing sister. Her name is
38:13Jessica. She is 7 years older than me.
38:16And and we've had such a beautiful,
38:19fascinating relationship because 7 years
38:21is a lot, right? It's a big gap. Where
38:23it's like she very much mothered me.
38:25Like my mom worked a lot when I was
38:27little. And so, my sister played a huge
38:29role in as a parental role to me. And
38:32then moved out when she was 16. And so,
38:34I was nine when she moved out. And so,
38:37we're now like my mom just turned 80,
38:39and we got to really like be a team
38:41throwing my mom's 80th birthday party.
38:43And so, and my mom comes from a family
38:45of 10. And it was nine women, one man.
38:47And the man died early. So, it's really
38:49like I I matriarchy is like in my
38:52in my cells. Mhm.
38:56I can feel it. It runs strong, and it's
38:58good medicine.
39:00Um then I think that this is like a
39:01great segue into what you just talked
39:04about. Like this is a really juicy topic
39:06here around
39:08um
39:09what it means to be a woman on the
39:11spiritual path that is making money for
39:13what it is that she's creating and
39:14that's what the shame and guilt that
39:15comes with that. And how do you think
39:19that or if if at all, do you think that
39:21that shame is related to sexuality or
39:24like interwoven in some sort of way?
39:25Mhm. That's interesting cuz, you know,
39:27they're both at the root, right? Like
39:29creativity, survival, money, sex,
39:31they're all these like lower chakras.
39:33Uh-huh. And so, if they're blocked or if
39:37you're not talking to them or accessing
39:39them, and then they can all they can
39:41both sort of wither, you know, your
39:42sexuality, your sensuality, and your
39:44abundance.
39:45What I have found is that in the past
39:47years, I took a 3-month sabbatical last
39:49year, and Ziva had its best financial
39:51year to date. So, that I mean, that was
39:54that was wild evidence to me that
39:57actually being in my feminine, leaning
39:59back, making space for new cognitions,
40:02being in magnetism and receptivity
40:05is the frequency of the time, which is
40:08very different than how I started the
40:10business. It was a different age in
40:112010. It was a different world. Like it
40:14was I mean, my book is called stress
40:15less accomplish more. I was like,
40:18meditate so you could accomplish more.
40:20Just different paradigm.
40:22Um,
40:23and so I do think that what it proved to
40:25me, taking that sabbatical, making space
40:27to birth and nurture these new things
40:30that wanted to come through, and then
40:32the fact that more people were drawn to
40:34my work, more people were seeking me
40:37out, it felt like a real high five from
40:39nature of like, keep going. Keep going.
40:41Like the world needs this message. I
40:43know it's scary to talk about sex, even
40:45say the word sex, and people get like
40:47hella triggered, you know.
40:49And and I again, I'm Southern Baptist.
40:50Like I've not even really talked to my
40:52mom and sister too much about this work.
40:54Like that's the thing that's going on in
40:55my mind. I'm like, I seem brave and I
40:57seem super claiming, but like there's
40:59still like I haven't really sat my mom
41:01down and be like, hey, so I have a dream
41:03about 80,000 people climaxing in Dallas
41:05Cowboys Stadium at the same time.
41:08Will you be there?
41:10Like I haven't really done that yet. She
41:11probably is not a subscriber for the
41:13Daily Shavuot podcast. I think we're
41:15safe.
41:16But unless you like pull up this clip on
41:17social and someone sends it to her
41:19Facebook.
41:21Ah. So, you know, there's many ways that
41:24I'm brave and there's many ways that I'm
41:25not, but actually money was a tough one
41:26for me. Like I remember I would get
41:29those comments of like, how dare you?
41:30Like, you know, how dare you charge
41:32money for your meditation class and
41:34meditation should be free cuz it's not
41:35only being a woman, it's not only being
41:37the spiritual space, not only making
41:38money, but because we have price
41:40anchored meditation as free, right? That
41:43we think that it's only monks that are
41:44doing it. And by the way, definition of
41:46a monk, well,
41:47there's lots. But in India, you're
41:49either a monk or you're a householder,
41:51and it's less than 1% of the world's
41:53population that is monastic by nature.
41:55And that means that like you don't want
41:56to have a family. You don't want to have
41:58sex with people. You don't want to live
41:59in society. You actually want to be
42:00reclusive and celibate. That's your
42:02desire.
42:04And for us to try and be monastic when
42:06we're not does not make us more holy.
42:09Right? And I think it's one of the big
42:10games of translation that has made us
42:12feel unnecessary shame around sexuality
42:15and unnecessary shame around money
42:17because we think that the monks, because
42:19they have these seemingly superpowers,
42:21it's not because they're special, it's
42:23just they're just have different
42:24practices. They're contributing society
42:26in a different way. If you don't have a
42:28job or kids or like too many things to
42:32do during the day, then you can help to
42:33contribute to collective consciousness
42:35through laundering your own
42:36consciousness. So, it's just a different
42:37modality versus people like us, people
42:40that are householders who want to have
42:41kids and have jobs and be in society,
42:43we're doing different styles,
42:46and so they require less time, but we do
42:50those styles so that we can get good at
42:52life.
42:54We don't meditate to get good at
42:55meditation. We meditate to get good at
42:56life. And part of being good at life is
42:59providing for a family and having
43:02partners and having great sex. Like this
43:05is so it's like to deny yourself
43:06abundance, to deny yourself sexuality
43:09does not make you closer to God.
43:13So, let's continue to unravel the shame
43:15and the guilt that is holding these
43:17specific pieces captive while also
43:20recognizing that we can live in a
43:22reality where we can receive it all,
43:24which is I think is actually sometimes
43:26very triggering to to even say that,
43:28especially with the amount of suffering
43:30that is happening on the planet for
43:31people when you say, oh, well, you can
43:33have it all. And then it can kind of go
43:35into this narrative of privilege. And of
43:37course, there's many different layers
43:38around that specifically. However, what
43:41I'm hearing from you is the depth or the
43:44deepening of your feminine principle, of
43:46your magnetism, and that is found in the
43:48stillness. And the stillness is found in
43:51carving out very like specific times of
43:53non-negotiable meditation and navigating
43:57the internal waters so that we can
43:58actually align with the reality that is
44:00there for us as opposed to hustle,
44:02chase, push down, step on, dog eat dog,
44:07go out and make it happen. Yes, there's
44:10a degree of aligned action because if we
44:11just sit on our sofa at home and we just
44:13meditate all day, then actually it's not
44:15the energy is not being put in motion.
44:18However, the aligned action but based
44:20from a place of I know who I am, I know
44:22why I'm here, and I know how I serve,
44:23and I've anchored this in my morning and
44:25night is now aligning you with a
44:28magnetic force field so that when you
44:29show up to the space, it's not about
44:31what you do, it's about who you be while
44:32you do it that allows it to come to you
44:34with ease and grace. Yes, so well said.
44:36As a matter of fact, just this morning
44:37we're talking to Matrix, our DP over
44:39here.
44:40And and he was saying like from watching
44:42all these episodes and seeing all these
44:43people, he's like, you know, the people
44:44who are making it are the people who are
44:45doing both. They're saying the prayers
44:48and they're walking the walk. Like it's
44:49not just about the 5D. It's not just
44:51offer up the prayer and take a nap. And
44:53it's not just hustle and grind. It
44:56really requires that masterful
44:57simultaneity of like absolute clarity of
45:00the vision and full and total detachment
45:03of the result and taking, like you would
45:06say, aligned aligned action.
45:09Those that I feel myself to be super
45:11drawn to and inspired by are the ones
45:13that have integrated the masculine
45:17go with the feminine flow. The
45:21masculine
45:23essence of structure, numbers, follow
45:26through, being on time, agreeing you
45:29know, to to show up at this certain
45:30space and this certain time at a certain
45:32date, and actually doing that and
45:34following through with it,
45:36being able to be impeccable with our
45:38word.
45:40And then that combined effort of showing
45:43up and then not needing to be nothing
45:45needs to be said per se. It's not like I
45:47go there with an agenda, but more so
45:49then in the softening of the feminine
45:50principle is the embodiment of I know
45:53who I am, I know I'm here, and I know
45:54how I serve, and my presence alone is
45:56already worthy and is already enough,
45:59and showing up with that essence with
46:00also the masculine that's holding it in
46:02place or the structure that's allowing
46:04the showing up. But once the showing up
46:06is done, the emphasis on it's not about
46:09what I do, it's about who I be while I
46:12do the thing. The doing is still there,
46:14but the emphasis is on the being part
46:17that then penetrates the do, if that
46:19makes sense.
46:20So, that's what I that's what I sense in
46:22you very strongly, which is why I'm very
46:23drawn towards you and as an inspiration
46:26in my life and and and a strong woman
46:28that activates me and inspires me by the
46:30way that you choose to weave the world
46:32and the way that you choose to see life
46:33is from a very grounded space.
46:37And I think in the spiritual community,
46:39there's a lot of individuals that are
46:41very much in the 5D. However, when when
46:44it comes to like having our feet on the
46:46earth and following through with things
46:48that we said that we would do, it starts
46:50to fall short, and then it's hard for me
46:52to receive the teachings
46:54of an individual that is not fully
46:56embodied.
46:58Because it's the embodiment that the
47:00frequency lands in the body.
47:03So, when you speak, your wisdom lands
47:05for me because it's coming from an
47:07embodied place.
47:09Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. That is
47:11the biggest compliment that you could
47:12give me because I've spent a lifetime
47:15sort of
47:17Like I also talk about like mood making.
47:19Like there's a lot of people making a
47:20mood about meditation, and like now it's
47:23on to psychedelics and sex. It's like
47:24almost like meditation is passe, and I'm
47:26like, we everybody, like
47:28please for the love of all things holy,
47:30like please start a meditation practice
47:32before you start blasting yourself open
47:34with 5-MeO-DMT and going to tantra
47:36retreats and having orgies. Like all
47:38those things can be amazing.
47:41Like you know, like truly, I've had
47:42great experiences with all of those
47:43things. But like if you don't have the
47:45ability to like ground and rest and
47:48integrate and and change your own seat
47:50of consciousness internally, then that
47:52stuff can be bifurcating, you know, it
47:55can create fractures if you don't know
47:57how to reintegrate yourself. I mean, the
48:00whole point of it is to be an expansion.
48:02Psychedelics, breath work, sacred
48:03sexuality, they expand you open, which
48:05is amazing. But if you don't know how to
48:08bring yourself home or have this
48:10foundation on which to build those
48:12things, then I find that they can be not
48:14not as effective. And to your point,
48:16like no one wants to learn meditation
48:17from someone who is stressed. No one
48:19wants to take financial advice from
48:20someone who doesn't have any money. And
48:22in this day and age where everyone is
48:23becoming a coach, it's like, great. Like
48:26if you know A, teach A. If you know B,
48:28teach B. So, I'm not like one of those
48:29people that's like, everyone's a coach.
48:31But it's like, I do think we want to
48:33equip people who are on the upward
48:35spiral to help people who are not.
48:39And to your point, if you're not
48:41embodied, if you're not practicing what
48:42you're preaching, it's just not going to
48:44be as impactful.
48:48Yeah, I mean, Matrix is over at the side
48:51of this podcast right now. He's just
48:52clicking his waving his hands in the
48:53air. He's feeling it. He's vibing it.
48:56Matrix, the unsung hero of the Daily
48:59Shavuot podcast. He really is. We just
49:01like massive shout out to Matrix right
49:03now for all of the magic and the the the
49:04energy that you hold for the the queens
49:06that come on this podcast and the kings
49:08and everything in between.
49:10It's a great follow for you, brother.
49:11Um,
49:13so moving forward, you you talked about
49:16you have a vision for bringing X amount
49:18of individuals all in one space and
49:21creating a pleasure practice. Uh,
49:24I would love for you to just break this
49:25down just for a second cuz I'm sure
49:27there's somebody that's sitting at home
49:28that's probably choking on a the peach
49:30that they're eating right now. They're
49:31like,
49:32like, what? You want to bring all these
49:33humans together and do what?
49:35Um, and yet also it's this pattern
49:37interrupt courageous heart that I do
49:40believe is the pioneering energy for a
49:41new paradigm. Um, and so, I'd love to
49:43hear your perspective on
49:45what is your why behind wanting to
49:47create an experience where there are x
49:50amount of people, large amounts of
49:51people in the same space uh creating a
49:53pleasure practice. And what do you feel
49:55like that would actually contribute to
49:57the fabric of the collective
49:58consciousness moving forward?
50:00So, the original vision I was on my
50:02one-year anniversary um in in Santa Fe
50:05on the sacred Chigong ground, and I met
50:07this amazing woman named Amanda, and she
50:09asked for permission and she's like,
50:11"May I?" And she put her hands on my
50:12knees, and she said
50:16tap into my future. And she was like,
50:18"That's weird." I was like, "What?"
50:20She's like, "This is normally my dream."
50:22And I was like, "What?" And she's like,
50:23"But this is clearly you."
50:25You're on a stage, and it's not just
50:26you, there's a lot of women around you,
50:28and it's let's just say it's the Dallas
50:30Cowboys Stadium, there's 80,000 people
50:32there. And and what was weird is that
50:34I've been having that vision as well.
50:35Like, not Dallas Cowboys Stadium, I
50:36didn't know it was 80,000 people, but
50:38I've been having a dream of like me and
50:39a lot of women in a circle with a
50:41stadium of filled with people. And I
50:43didn't know exactly what it was, but a
50:45few weeks later it's like the whole run
50:46of show dropped in. And now now I can
50:49feel the frequency of that, and I had an
50:51Akashic record reading at New Year's
50:52that was like, "Yes, like yes, keep
50:54going. Liberation through pleasure,
50:57liberation through pleasure, but let go
50:58of the container, and let go of the
51:00timing."
51:01Right? Like, it's not necessarily this
51:03container, and if you try and push it on
51:05your timeline, then you're going to pull
51:06like if you try and pull the rubber band
51:08faster than it can sustainably hold
51:10itself, you're going to have the
51:12snapback, and you're going to create
51:14suffering. And they were talking like,
51:15you know, burned at the stake type
51:16suffering. So, like while I've been
51:18really protected so far, it was
51:21basically a warning that like on
51:22nature's time, not your time. On
51:25nature's time, not your time. So, that
51:26doesn't doesn't diminish me from the
51:28audacity of the dream, because I think
51:30that there's magnetism in the audacity
51:32of the dream, but what I am now more
51:33flexible around is like how we get
51:35there, and um and then just last night
51:38we had like a little mini council
51:40meeting, a few of us. We're so special.
51:42We're so special.
51:43special.
51:44It was you know, myself and and you and
51:47Layla and Aubrey and Vilana, and and
51:50Aubrey was sort of challenging me on
51:51this, right? And he's like, "Why? Why do
51:52you want to do this in public? Why
51:53press? Why cameras? Like, is this just a
51:56[ __ ] you?" And I was like, "No, there's
51:58zero [ __ ] you energy in this."
52:00It is like the fact that we even think
52:04that pleasuring ourselves is sinful or
52:07bad or audacious, and yet we'll watch
52:10war movies and video games, and the fact
52:13that no one's asked for consent to talk
52:14about someone being shot, no one asked
52:16for consent before punching someone in
52:18the face, fighting, boxing. This stuff
52:20is happening, people are paying money
52:22for that.
52:23Fighting someone, killing someone.
52:26This is okay,
52:28but pleasure, reminding ourselves that
52:31God is actually inside of us, that
52:33somehow this has become the devil, that
52:36this has become wrong and a sin, again,
52:39is just so incomprehensible to me. Like
52:42I like I really cannot believe that we
52:44have managed to forget that we're
52:46actually God. And it's been so many tens
52:49of thousands of years that it feels
52:51audacious when it's really not.
52:53And I am not a ding-dong. Like I
52:55recognize how much conditioning we're
52:57all swimming in, and so I like the idea
52:59of us maybe like doing it in private,
53:01secretly doing it, getting, you know,
53:03500 people, then 5,000 people, then
53:0610,000 people, and maybe it's on
53:07someone's private land, and we don't
53:09bring the cameras yet, we don't bring
53:10the press yet, but what I think will
53:12happen
53:13is that we get into coherence with
53:15ourselves, we get into coherence with
53:17each other, and we offer up these
53:19prayers, not only for ourselves, but we
53:21offer up these prayers for the
53:22collective.
53:23And I know that you have seen this
53:24before, right? Like, there's one person
53:27praying is amazing, a thousand people
53:29with the same prayer is 1,000 x more
53:34powerful. It's not a thousand times more
53:36power, it's it's to the infinite. We
53:38used to start to talk multitudes more
53:39power.
53:41And so, my theory is that if we can get
53:44tens of thousands, maybe eventually
53:45stadiums, you know, network together,
53:48people all climaxing in like thinning
53:50the veil between the unmanifest and the
53:52unmanifest, right? In these
53:54extraordinary ecstatic states holding a
53:56collective prayer for the species that
53:58the planet is regenerative, that humans
54:00are living in harmony with the planet,
54:02that we are living in harmony with each
54:03other, my theory is that it will change
54:06the timeline of the species. And the
54:08reason why this does not feel audacious
54:09to me is that if we don't system if we
54:12don't pattern interrupt,
54:14then like the bus is currently heading
54:16off the cliff.
54:19Like it's
54:21It's like or or or we could just let the
54:23planet keep burning.
54:25Does that feel like a smart like that
54:26seems audacious to me, actually. And
54:28that's what I said to you yesterday in
54:29the kitchen, I said, "Thank you so much
54:31for your courage." Or the kitchen
54:33somewhere.
54:34Um, and your response was something
54:37along the lines of
54:38I mean, I see that there, so we like
54:41we run ourselves off the the edge of the
54:43cliff. Like
54:45it's kind of just like the choice is
54:47choice.
54:48And I thought that was
54:49such a beautiful response, because it
54:52does place an emphasis on the way that
54:55we are weaving in the world, the way
54:56that we are consumering, the way that we
54:59are treating each other, the wars that
55:01are living within inside of our own
55:02heads, therefore subsequently
55:03contributing to the wars that we see on
55:05the planet, the division mentality. I
55:07mean, there's just so much that's going
55:09on, the way that we're operating from
55:11this
55:13this
55:14forward is that we we're finite right
55:16now. We don't have,
55:17you know, much much time here.
55:20even the world we want to be living in?
55:23Is this really what we choose?
55:25Like, if we could make a different
55:26paradigm, would we?
55:28You said said something about the the
55:30hair analogy of how much time we've
55:32actually been here. Oh, yeah.
55:34Can you share that?
55:36So, in the Museum of Natural History,
55:37which I go to a lot because again, I
55:38have a four-year-old paleontologist in
55:40my family. Um, so there's this beautiful
55:42called the Hayden Planetarium, there's a
55:43giant sun, and it's basically like the
55:45whole building. It's like four stories
55:47high, whole sun, and they they made it
55:49to to give you a scale of like, here's
55:51Mercury, and here's Earth, and here's
55:52Jupiter, so you can see the size of the
55:55sun in relationship to the other
55:56planets. And then there's this spiral
55:58walkway that goes all the way around the
56:00sun, and it basically you start on the
56:01third floor, and it's the beginning of
56:02time, like however many hundreds of
56:04millions of years ago. And you take one
56:07step is like a hundred million years in
56:09each step, and you just see like, "Oh,
56:11one floor down, here's dinosaurs, and
56:13here's another era of dinosaurs, and
56:15here's another era of dinosaurs. Oh, and
56:16here's like
56:18reptiles, and here's the and here's
56:20trees." And then the last step you take,
56:23there's a single strand of human hair.
56:26And that is how long humans have been on
56:28Earth.
56:30And it's this real lens shift. Like, you
56:33pull the lens way back, and you realize
56:36like
56:37we're so narcissistic, and we can't help
56:39but think that this is all there is, but
56:42the
56:42Earth has been around for a long time.
56:46Really long time.
56:48And and so, when you think that like
56:50dinosaurs probably thought that they
56:51weren't going to go extinct,
56:53you know, and people are like, "Oh, save
56:54the planet, save the planet." Like, this
56:55is not about the planet. The planet will
56:57be fine. She might shake us off, but she
57:00will be fine. The question is, what do
57:02we want our existence to be on this
57:04planet for the time that we have left?
57:07And and my I mean, now especially being
57:09a mom, you know, my son is four. By
57:112050, I'm not great at math, but let's
57:14say that puts him in his like 30s or
57:16something. There's supposed to be more
57:17plastic in the ocean than fish by 2050.
57:20Say that again. By 2050, there's
57:23supposed to be more plastic in the ocean
57:25than fish. Like, by volume, by weight.
57:28And like the thought of my son like
57:30swimming in plastic and not seeing any
57:32fish in the ocean, it's like
57:35No, that's not it. And just like you
57:37will abuse and neglect your body when
57:40you don't feel connected to it, I feel
57:42that's what we're doing to the Earth.
57:43We're like abusing and neglecting the
57:45Earth because we don't feel connected to
57:47her. And so again, the hypothesis is
57:49that if we can reconnect to the ecology
57:51of our own bodies, then we can start to
57:53reconnect to the planet. And if at the
57:56very least, it's just like
57:58we learn how to pray in a more powerful
58:01way,
58:02and if we take all of the energy that we
58:06spend worshipping our worries,
58:08and start to spend that worshipping our
58:10dreams,
58:11like one, it would just be a lot more
58:12fun place to live. And two, they might
58:15even start coming true.
58:19Just you saying worshipping our
58:21worries as opposed to worshipping our
58:23dreams, I can feel
58:25the just the internal shift that happens
58:28in the way that I perceive my day,
58:31and how the worries are so much louder
58:34than the dreams.
58:36And yet, the dreams are actually all
58:37here. It's just because of how loud the
58:39worries are, and then it obstructs my
58:41ability to receive the dream that's
58:42actually already been made manifest. And
58:45that's the individual responsibility
58:47that we all have to genuinely create a a
58:50more beautiful world that our hearts
58:51know is possible.
58:53Is
58:55to take ownership of what's going on
58:57between our ears.
58:58And I would offer that that to do that,
59:01to make that shift organically from
59:02worshipping your worries to worshipping
59:04your dreams, is very very challenging,
59:06almost impossible, if you don't have a
59:09handle on your neurochemistry. Like, if
59:10you are swimming in adrenaline and
59:12cortisol and fight or flight, if your
59:14body thinks that it's being attacked at
59:16any given moment, it is virtually
59:18impossible to actively worship your
59:20dreams. I mean, you can, but it's hard.
59:23It requires a lot of white knuckling.
59:25And so, that's why I mean, I know I'm
59:27evangelical about this, but truly like
59:28meditation is like step one for
59:31manifesting, because you have to get out
59:33of fight or flight and into stay and
59:34play. You have to change this
59:35neurochemistry so that you have the
59:38luxury, really the privilege then of
59:40being able to direct your attention
59:42where you choose. Because otherwise this
59:44meat suit's trying to survive and you're
59:46not going to be able to override
59:48survival in the body with some happy
59:50thoughts about your dreams. Mhm. Mhm.
59:54How do you feel like meditation plays a
59:55role in allowing us to shift from
59:59survival into thriving uh within the
1:00:01somatic experience of our body and our
1:00:03nervous system? So when we get stressed
1:00:05we go into fight or flight, right?
1:00:06Everybody knows this. But like the
1:00:08physiologically what happens is um
1:00:11body starts preparing for a tiger
1:00:13attack. So it will um
1:00:16heart rate increases
1:00:18um
1:00:20blood pressure increases, bladder and
1:00:22bowels evacuate so you can be light on
1:00:24your feet so you don't you shouldn't
1:00:25like weighed down. Your vision starts to
1:00:27narrow so you're focused on your
1:00:29opponent. Your um skin uh sorry, your
1:00:32digestion floods with acid to shut down
1:00:34digestion because you need all hands on
1:00:36deck to fight or flee the tiger. That
1:00:38acid seeps onto your skin so you don't
1:00:40taste very good if the tiger bites you.
1:00:42Your blood starts to thicken and
1:00:43coagulate so if the tiger bites you you
1:00:45don't bleed out. So all of these
1:00:47chemical responses are really useful if
1:00:49your demands are predators. But now our
1:00:52our demands in most parts of the world
1:00:53are not predatory attacks.
1:00:55Right? Now it's in-laws and deadlines
1:00:58and emails and banks collapsing and new
1:01:01AIs coming out and just being asked to
1:01:03adapt, adapt, adapt. And so now what we
1:01:07do when we meditate and with Ziva
1:01:09specifically we're giving the body rest
1:01:10that's five times deeper than sleep. So
1:01:13within a 15-minute meditation it's the
1:01:15equivalent of almost an hour and a half
1:01:17of rest but without a sleep hangover on
1:01:18the other side. And so then you go in
1:01:21and you de-excite the nervous system and
1:01:22you start to get rid of that adrenaline
1:01:23and cortisol which are stress hormones
1:01:25which make the body acidic and not taste
1:01:27good. And then almost immediately we
1:01:29start to flood the brain and body with
1:01:30dopamine and serotonin which are bliss
1:01:32chemicals which feel good in the moment
1:01:35but then good news they stay with you
1:01:36even outside of the meditation. So that
1:01:38bliss starts to permeate the other 23
1:01:40hours of the day which is what you're
1:01:41responding to when you see like those
1:01:43roots or that groundedness or that
1:01:45claiming that I'm like that's what that
1:01:46is. That's me accessing
1:01:49this
1:01:50this thing that is much bigger than me
1:01:52and then bringing it with me into the
1:01:54rest of the day not just in meditation.
1:01:57Um so but main but main thing for most
1:01:59people it's like get out of fight or
1:02:01flight, get into stay and play. Like get
1:02:04the body into not only homeostasis but
1:02:07into this alkaline blissed out nature so
1:02:10that you have options so that you can if
1:02:13you choose.
1:02:16Mhm.
1:02:19See right there, that's a prime example
1:02:21of you marrying your study and your
1:02:25wisdom and your time spent learning and
1:02:27then also your intuition and your
1:02:29feeling in the realm of understanding
1:02:31emotional waters and those two partner
1:02:33together allows the message to land.
1:02:35Mhm.
1:02:36Like I understand what you're saying and
1:02:39it lands in a very grounded, practical,
1:02:42helpful way for my mind to digest so my
1:02:45body can receive it. Yes.
1:02:47That's all I'm doing. You're like how
1:02:49can you teach people to meditate? All
1:02:51I'm doing like honestly like I don't
1:02:53teach a one-day meditation course but I
1:02:54could because it's not hard. It is
1:02:57simple.
1:02:58But people confuse simplicity with
1:03:01ease, right? It's not easy. It's simple
1:03:04but it's not easy. So and you most of
1:03:07what I'm doing in my course is is
1:03:09getting people's intellect to catch up
1:03:11to why they should devote their most
1:03:14valuable resource which is their time
1:03:16and their attention to sitting still and
1:03:19still and doing nothing. Now we're not
1:03:21doing nothing, okay? Just like when you
1:03:23go to sleep at night you ain't doing
1:03:24nothing. If anyone has read Why We Sleep
1:03:27you know that we are not doing nothing.
1:03:29You go like three days without sleep and
1:03:30you like increase your chances of cancer
1:03:32by a zillion percent or something. Like
1:03:33sleep is imperative for the body's
1:03:35restorative processes. You're not doing
1:03:38anything. You are not doing anything
1:03:40when you're sleeping but body is healing
1:03:42very, very elegantly. Same thing is true
1:03:45in this style of meditation. You're not
1:03:47doing anything. You're not visualizing,
1:03:49you're not chanting, you're not praying,
1:03:51you're not breathing. You're not doing
1:03:54anything but your body sure is. Like
1:03:57body goes into this deeply restful
1:03:59state. Um the the neuroplasticity starts
1:04:02to increase between the right and left
1:04:03hemispheres of the brain which
1:04:04strengthens the corpus callosum which is
1:04:06the bridge between the right and left
1:04:08hemispheres. So left brain is in charge
1:04:10of individuality but right brain is in
1:04:11charge of totality. And most of us like
1:04:14you said there is sort of either or.
1:04:15We're either like fully here in the 3D
1:04:17totally stressing about our taxes and
1:04:19traffic or we're just like it's fine.
1:04:21I'm going to manifest on my vision board
1:04:23and I'm never going to go to work again.
1:04:24And to have this like simultaneity of
1:04:27like I know how to pray and I know how
1:04:29to move my feet. This is quite rare and
1:04:32it's why I love this tradition so much
1:04:34and it's why I love this practice so
1:04:35much is because it puts equal weight on
1:04:38both the human and the divine, the right
1:04:40brain and the left and that the practice
1:04:42itself is about merging the two
1:04:45together.
1:04:45Mhm. Which is that beautiful awakened
1:04:47state which is what we see depicted as
1:04:49the third eye, the eye of Horus. It's
1:04:52it's right in between the left and the
1:04:53right hemispheres, the masculine and the
1:04:55feminine poles of the uh uh lobes of the
1:04:58brain which sits in the center point
1:05:00which is the third eye to be able to see
1:05:01beyond the illusion and beyond the veil
1:05:03of the distortion of everything we've
1:05:04been told up until this point that's not
1:05:06in vibrational alignment with our truth
1:05:07or the direction that we're supposed to
1:05:08be moving in. Um
1:05:10and so it sits there for a reason.
1:05:13And I think we can get caught up in this
1:05:16this narrative of thinking that what's
1:05:17female or feminine is to females and
1:05:19masculine is to males. Like it's they're
1:05:21so far from that. It is it's a
1:05:23recognition of energetics within our own
1:05:25psyche and the rebalancing of those
1:05:27pieces so that we can activate that
1:05:28awakened state that is that beautiful
1:05:30sweet balance right between the two.
1:05:32So I just want to say thank you, thank
1:05:34you, thank you, thank you, thank you for
1:05:35the work that you've done to align those
1:05:37two um lobes of your brain and to be
1:05:40able to create service from that space
1:05:42and spaces for other people to be able
1:05:44to meet themselves in an empowered
1:05:45nature because that's what's going to
1:05:46take. And the only way that your
1:05:49teachings and what it is that you share
1:05:51can really land is from that place of
1:05:53embodiment that we talked about before
1:05:55and it is uh landing and it is impacting
1:05:58so many people. 50,000 people that have
1:06:01gone through your program. Holy [ __ ]
1:06:02that's so many humans. Um from your
1:06:05books to
1:06:07um to you standing on stage and your
1:06:09activations to your pleasure practice to
1:06:11the meditation courses to your
1:06:13sisterhood, to being a mother, to being
1:06:15a lover and to being a um and now a
1:06:18podcast host as well which is so
1:06:20exciting.
1:06:21Oh, it's so exciting. Thank you so much
1:06:24for letting me share this magical space
1:06:25with you. It feels like such an honor to
1:06:27like step into like all of the juju and
1:06:29all of the depth that you the portal
1:06:31that you've created right here. Truly
1:06:34what an honor. Mhm. It's so fun. We've
1:06:36had a really great week. We've been
1:06:38creating content nonstop. We've been
1:06:40powerfully playing. We've been having
1:06:42dance parties. We've been doing sauna
1:06:43cold plunge every morning. Every day.
1:06:45It's been such a gift to be able to just
1:06:48get to know you more, Emily Fletcher.
1:06:50You're a fabulous, fabulous, fabulous
1:06:52human being.
1:06:53I hope this is just the beginning of a
1:06:55really epic life adventure together.
1:06:57Yeah, I feel it. I'm really excited. I'm
1:06:59getting shivers over my right side right
1:07:00now.
1:07:02For all of those beautiful humans that
1:07:04um
1:07:04feel really drawn to you or want to
1:07:06continue to follow you on the adventures
1:07:08of what you're creating, um would you be
1:07:10open to sharing with us a little bit
1:07:11more about uh how we can find you? Yes.
1:07:15Well,
1:07:16hopefully by the time this comes out the
1:07:18podcast will be out already. So the
1:07:20podcast is called Why Isn't Everyone
1:07:22Doing This? And the amazing Blue is one
1:07:25of our guests.
1:07:27Um and it's really built on that idea of
1:07:28like when you find something that's so
1:07:30good and you have that thought like why
1:07:31isn't everyone doing this? So we're
1:07:33going to examine those and then and then
1:07:35the why. Um
1:07:36also zivameditation.com. That's where
1:07:39all my courses are. I'd say our most
1:07:40popular is Ziva online. That's a 15-day
1:07:43training in mindfulness, meditation, and
1:07:45manifesting. And that's the one that um
1:07:48I've gifted you. So if you ever do I
1:07:50think it'd be fun to do like a challenge
1:07:52with your crew.
1:07:54Um
1:07:55And then like you just like go on the
1:07:57ride together and then I'd be happy to
1:07:58do a live or something like that where
1:08:00we could like share experiences.
1:08:03Um and then on Instagram I'm at Ziva
1:08:05Meditation, z i v a. But if you want
1:08:07Jasper content it's Emily Stella
1:08:09Fletcher.
1:08:11That's fun. It's highly worth worth the
1:08:13follow. Definitely, definitely.
1:08:16Yeah. Oh and I do have a free
1:08:18masterclass which is just
1:08:19zivameditation.com/podcast.
1:08:22And it's just a deeper dive into the
1:08:23neuroscience of the style of meditation
1:08:24that I teach. Amazing.
1:08:27Thank you so much for being on the
1:08:28Dejavu podcast. It's been a long time
1:08:30coming. Such a gift
1:08:32to be able to continue to weave with you
1:08:33and may your podcast touch the hearts
1:08:36and the souls and the minds of millions
1:08:39of people around the world and may they
1:08:40be illuminated by the frequencies of
1:08:42your voice and your discernment around
1:08:43your guests for those that have impacted
1:08:46your life in ways that can translate
1:08:48your message through the embodiment
1:08:50piece. And may your podcast continue to
1:08:53be filled with so much fun and so much
1:08:57play that when you show up you realize
1:08:59all your dreams are being made manifest
1:09:01in in this reality right now as it
1:09:04stands. And um thank you for inspiring
1:09:07me the way that you weave your podcast
1:09:09already just the being able to be a
1:09:11guest. And so my prayers and my
1:09:12blessings are with you on all of the
1:09:14endeavors that you create from this
1:09:15point forward. And thank you so much for
1:09:16your service. Mhm.
1:09:18I love you. I love you, too.
1:09:21I love you, too,
1:09:22you sweet angel. My sweet babe.
1:09:25All righty, beautiful humans. Thank you
1:09:26so much for tuning into another episode
1:09:28of the Deja Blue podcast. Such a gift to
1:09:30have you here. If you resonated with
1:09:32today's episode, then please go ahead
1:09:33and share it on your Instagram story so
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1:09:37way, so that we can reach many more
1:09:39people than we can with our own
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1:09:47and all of the good things and staying
1:09:49connected. If you loved today's episode
1:09:51and you've got something to share about
1:09:53it that or whatever there it is that's
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1:09:56then please go ahead and put it in the
1:09:58comment section. Allow us to interact
1:10:00with you and just to get a feel for how
1:10:01this lands in your heart and what you
1:10:04receive
1:10:05from this episode.
1:10:07So, may you find the stillness within
1:10:09your day and may you lace magic into the
1:10:12mundane recognizing that very powerful
1:10:14beings are those that are willing to A,
1:10:17take ownership of their whole
1:10:18experience, B, take a light action of
1:10:20non-negotiables of creating more
1:10:21stillness in their day, and C, balancing
1:10:24the masculine and the feminine
1:10:25principles within their own psychology
1:10:27so that they can actually move forward
1:10:29and find that really sweet juicy spot
1:10:31between the go go and the flow.
1:10:33Until next week, thanks for tuning in.
1:10:34Sending love.

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