"A clear vision of the Church at end times!" - an interview. Fr. James Manjackal MSFS — Transcript
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- 0:03[music]
- 0:12Well, a very warm welcome to everybody
- 0:15to Mother and Refuge. And today we have
- 0:17a very special guest, Father James. And
- 0:21we're here to talk about um the amazing
- 0:25vision that he had in September.
- 0:28And um so God bless you, Father James,
- 0:31and welcome.
- 0:32>> Okay. Okay. Praise the Lord. Allelujah.
- 0:36>> Praise the Lord. Allelujah.
- 0:37>> The feast of mother of sorrows. Yeah.
- 0:41>> Yes. It's the feast of mother of sorrows
- 0:43here as well. Yeah. Would you be able to
- 0:46start us off with a prayer?
- 0:49>> Lord Jesus, thank you and praise you for
- 0:51this studio of Ron.
- 0:54I pray that you send your powerful
- 0:56spirit upon this studio where I'm going
- 1:00to have an interview now with Maria
- 1:03Franks. Lord, send your holy spirit.
- 1:06Sanctify us. I don't know what I should
- 1:09speak. I'm ready and willing to speak
- 1:12what your spirit wants me to speak.
- 1:16Lord, thank you and praise you for his
- 1:18people who are listening to me. Bless
- 1:20them while we speak. Heal them. liberate
- 1:24them. Give them new life in Christ.
- 1:26Jesus, Mary, mama, good mother, mother
- 1:30of sorrows, pray for us. Amen.
- 1:35Amen.
- 1:36Now, Father, in your vision on September
- 1:40the 4th, you saw a large basilas, popes,
- 1:44and bishops swept away by floodwaters
- 1:48and consumed by fire. Did the Lord
- 1:52indicate whether this visual represents
- 1:55a literal physical destruction of church
- 2:00structures
- 2:01or was it a spiritual and institutional
- 2:05collapsing of the hierarchy?
- 2:10Yes, I really mean a physical
- 2:14destruction of the present structure of
- 2:17the church
- 2:19because it is not true to what Jesus
- 2:23wanted.
- 2:25As I say, today's church we see is not a
- 2:30church Jesus intended or Jesus founded
- 2:35and deviated much by adding people their
- 2:41own opinions, their own dogmas, their
- 2:44own teachings and also even bringing
- 2:48from other religion paganism
- 2:51you know from patchamama too. uh now
- 2:55what is happening in a church
- 2:57>> it is not only in Rome but all over in
- 3:00my own country in Kerala India which was
- 3:04so pristine for the religion pristine
- 3:07for Catholic faith now contaminated I
- 3:11say polluted by paganism taking from
- 3:15Buddhism or Hinduism and celebrating
- 3:19even holy masses with their ideas For
- 3:23example, recently we had a cultural
- 3:26feast called on and that is a social
- 3:31event and Hindus have their own meaning.
- 3:35Uh they had a once upon a time a
- 3:37prosperous king and he was defeated and
- 3:41we are put down earth and he comes out
- 3:44on once a year to see the people and
- 3:47there is a legend behind it. Now it is
- 3:50interpreted as the resurrection of
- 3:52Christ and the priests make the statue
- 3:56of that goddess or god keep on the altar
- 4:01and name the holy mass in the name of
- 4:04that goddess. For example, his name is
- 4:07Mi. So there's a mass in the name of Mi.
- 4:12And there are many other Hindu feasts.
- 4:14And I'm sorry to see the church
- 4:18authorities are keeping quiet and the
- 4:20priests here and there do all these
- 4:23things and poor people there poor people
- 4:26they just follow the priest and they
- 4:29asked to come in a dress like Hindus and
- 4:33come in the church and they have some
- 4:36budgeons that means typical music of the
- 4:39Hindus and all this is paining my heart
- 4:43And you know you know seeing all this I
- 4:46pray before the holy eucharist and I
- 4:49pray for a purification of the church.
- 4:52That day it was the first Saturday first
- 4:55Friday. I have a great devotion of first
- 4:58Friday and first Saturday. It is on
- 5:01those days the Lord reveals many many
- 5:04things to me. Then I saw this
- 5:07distraction. I feel that the present
- 5:10structure within few years will go and
- 5:14the real church as we read in the book
- 5:17of revelation chapter 21 new Jerusalem
- 5:21will come uh the real Catholic church
- 5:25will emerge
- 5:27what we see today is not the real
- 5:30Catholic church look at the fight as
- 5:32communications even now in the church uh
- 5:36so the church is split with the shism
- 5:40and wrong teachings and we can see it is
- 5:45not the church. The Lord wanted the
- 5:47church to be one and holy and apostolic
- 5:52and that is why he profess in the uh in
- 5:54the CR though but we don't see that so I
- 5:58don't think the Lord is happy with this
- 6:00situation will allow this to continue.
- 6:03We know the whole world is changing and
- 6:06along with [clears throat] that the Lord
- 6:08wants a change in the church but the
- 6:11church will outshine will be the salt of
- 6:14the earth and light of the world and he
- 6:17has to purify he cannot make this
- 6:20compromise you know if you look at the
- 6:22teachings of the Bible what is taught by
- 6:25Jesus and the disciple they never
- 6:28compromise with anything negative so
- 6:31that's [clears throat] the attitude a
- 6:32church should home.
- 6:36>> When I was um listening to your vision
- 6:39and watching your your um video, it
- 6:42reminded me of the third secret of
- 6:46Fatima or even Akita, the message from
- 6:49Akita. Do you think it's possible the
- 6:52Lord revealed to you part of part of
- 6:55this message that that that um has been,
- 6:59you know, foretold?
- 7:02I
- 7:04I'm ignorant of that. I never study any
- 7:07of those things. I know time number one
- 7:11and my focus is you know I'm a preacher.
- 7:14I go around almost every day preaching
- 7:18and uh I give uh the videos as a part of
- 7:22my teaching.
- 7:24>> Yes.
- 7:26>> You described
- 7:28>> Yeah. Um, you described an unidentified
- 7:33grand church with a statue of jealousy
- 7:37inside followed by foul smelling
- 7:40creatures and sun worship drawing
- 7:44parallels
- 7:47um just sorry one moment um drawing
- 7:50parallels to Cardinal Robert Sarah's
- 7:54warnings about paganism. Do you feel
- 7:57that this points to a specific sanctuary
- 8:01in the world today or does it symbolize
- 8:04a widespread trend of compromise within
- 8:08the global church?
- 8:11Yes,
- 8:12we know for example some priests and
- 8:17some bishops are freemasons.
- 8:19We know that and there are people in
- 8:23freemasonry in the Catholic church
- 8:26holding high positions
- 8:29that's a compromise
- 8:31and all this happened when I look
- 8:35carefully they lost faith
- 8:38many of the church dignitaries
- 8:42lost faith in the holy eucharist in the
- 8:45holy living presence of Jesus
- 8:49They celebrate mass as a ritual
- 8:52and they make the mass statement. People
- 8:55may attend the mass but the core of the
- 8:59holy mass. This is my body. This is my
- 9:04blood. The real physical presence of
- 9:08Jesus with us. God Emmanuel with us is
- 9:12missing and substituted by many other
- 9:16things. rituals, statues, devotions,
- 9:20there are many many things I don't want
- 9:22to enumerate in a small interview
- 9:25already I clearly said and I see much
- 9:28more I can tell you everywhere and
- 9:31there's no one to correct nobody do
- 9:33nobody to lead them in the right path so
- 9:37the lord will do as we read the lord's
- 9:40saying about shepherds uh in
- 9:45I myself will be the shepherd
- 9:47Now the shepherd the sheep are
- 9:50scattered. They have become prey for the
- 9:53wolves or for the enemies.
- 9:56[clears throat] And if you look at now
- 9:58you know a lot of compromise and people
- 10:02don't want to sacrifice the what time or
- 10:07evangelization for example in the
- 10:09Catholic church we have only little very
- 10:12little evangelization.
- 10:14We see a global movement by the
- 10:16Protestants everywhere. A big awakening.
- 10:20I'm in Spain. A big awakening. Also in
- 10:23Britain, you know that thousands gather
- 10:26together and call upon the name of
- 10:27Jesus. But we are sleeping church, a
- 10:31cold church. And we just go on with the
- 10:35past. Uh and uh as I said what we call
- 10:40darkness is there and the glory of the
- 10:43lord disappeared.
- 10:45And why the other day I was talking to a
- 10:48group why people go to protests not
- 10:51because they love protests they forced
- 10:54to go because they don't seek and find
- 10:57what they want in the Catholic church.
- 11:00And we in the Catholic Church have the
- 11:03most what you call wonderful uh power of
- 11:07God through the sacramental life
- 11:09sacraments. We are the best because the
- 11:12Lord gave the keys of the kingdom of
- 11:15heaven to Catholic church and that is
- 11:18there with the pope and shared by the
- 11:20apostles the bishops but it is there but
- 11:24not used.
- 11:26The greatest weapon is the weapon of the
- 11:29holy eucharist and not used and the
- 11:33sufficiently we are not explaining the
- 11:35power of the crucified Lord
- 11:39as we read in Galatians chapter 3 1 who
- 11:44bewitched you from the cross of Christ
- 11:47you foolish Galatians
- 11:50that Jesus Christ is depicted before you
- 11:53as crucified heart that is holy mass
- 11:58all this is missing we are not preaching
- 12:01people are in ignorance you know despite
- 12:05my age you know I am in 81 and despite
- 12:09my illness I'm sitting on a wheelchair
- 12:12and I have much pain and I have my
- 12:15neuropathic pain bleeding all this but I
- 12:19go around the world to make people
- 12:22understand who is Christ what is church?
- 12:26Many especially now I'm in Europe inside
- 12:29for 6 months many do not know who is
- 12:32Christ. If you ask a question they will
- 12:34say one of the gods.
- 12:37Catholic will reply one of the gods.
- 12:39>> Wow.
- 12:40>> If you ask the church they will say pope
- 12:42and bishops. That's all they don't know.
- 12:46The real church, the head of the church
- 12:49is Jesus and it is the body of Christ
- 12:53and we are a part of that body as we
- 12:56read in 1 Corinthians chapter 12:27.
- 12:59None of these things are known to our
- 13:01people. So when they see something
- 13:03outside glittering, maybe healing, maybe
- 13:08a deliverance prayer, oh they are
- 13:10attracted and they go, people are
- 13:12seeking, people are seeking, they want.
- 13:15Should they even go to a show today?
- 13:17Because they don't find in the church
- 13:18what they want to get. They have a right
- 13:21to get. I say as a Catholics have a
- 13:24right to receive all the blessing Jesus
- 13:26brought by his suffering, death and
- 13:31resurrection and his present life in the
- 13:34church and we are not giving that we the
- 13:38shepherds. So for me when I look more
- 13:42conversion is required for the shepherds
- 13:46than the sheep. Now the sheep scattered
- 13:49uh and nobody took care without a
- 13:53shepherd.
- 13:54M
- 13:56so contrast to the catastrophic scenes
- 14:00you witnessed a joyous vision of young
- 14:03people from nations like Japan, Germany,
- 14:07France and India shouting Japan belongs
- 14:11to Jesus and our lady dancing in her
- 14:15blue mantle. How soon do you see this
- 14:19explosive wave of charismatic renewal
- 14:23fulfilling itself alongside the upcoming
- 14:26trials?
- 14:28>> Yes,
- 14:29I say the hope of the Catholic Church
- 14:32today is Catholic [clears throat]
- 14:34Charismatic Renewal.
- 14:37We know I'm sorry to say we had the
- 14:42Catholic Charismatic renewal.
- 14:45It was CCR.
- 14:47Now it is no more existing in the
- 14:49church. It is called caris. We know Pope
- 14:52Francis changed the name and it is
- 14:55institutionalized.
- 14:57Actually kismar renewal was not an
- 15:00institution. It was the what you call
- 15:03the fire of the spirit. It was a wind of
- 15:05the spirit. It was moving the heart
- 15:09bringing conversion and changes. That
- 15:12takes place in other churches. and they
- 15:15meet Jesus. Actually God gave to
- 15:18Catholic church, Catholic charisma
- 15:21renewal
- 15:22uh in order that we may have this what
- 15:26call movement in the soul a real
- 15:28transformation happening and becoming
- 15:31authentic Catholic Christians and it is
- 15:35not happening now. If I look at the
- 15:37Catholic Charisma renewal in certain
- 15:39places, soldier prayer together, maybe a
- 15:43rosary together, maybe shouting out
- 15:46praying in tongues, maybe conducting a
- 15:49prayer service, that was not what was
- 15:52meant by the Lord or by the church by
- 15:55karishmic renewal, a thorough renewal, a
- 15:59revival, revival fire that was given. It
- 16:03was happening in the beginning. We know
- 16:05that Catholic Charisma renewal was
- 16:07everywhere in all the countries. Now I'm
- 16:11in Europe practically people do not know
- 16:14about it. You know Europe is always cold
- 16:18for everything. So when I preach
- 16:22everything is strange for them. They
- 16:24have never heard. So even on the part of
- 16:27the church church has not given that
- 16:30emphasis or encouragement sufficiently.
- 16:34this my criticism with all optimism.
- 16:37Yes, we actually when I go around you
- 16:40know for example two weeks ago in
- 16:42Slovenia one of the smallest countries
- 16:45in Europe with two and a half million
- 16:48you must imagine 10,000 people gathered
- 16:51for my program. They were praising God
- 16:54and how many about 50 priest sitting for
- 16:57confessions changing lives filled with
- 16:59the Holy Spirit. They were dancing and
- 17:01praising God. And I see in all my
- 17:05program I usually put in my YouTube the
- 17:08videos of my program. So this is this
- 17:12should happen. You know when I'm in
- 17:15Europe very difficult to get a
- 17:17permission of a retreat from a bishop.
- 17:20Some of the organizers go to seven or
- 17:23eight bishops to get a permission. We
- 17:25don't want renewal. We don't want
- 17:27renewal. And when I go around
- 17:29[clears throat] my children, my friends,
- 17:32I call you children. Usually in the
- 17:34retreat I call children. I'm old enough
- 17:36to call you children. I am 80. So uh my
- 17:40children uh the real authentic
- 17:43Christians are found among the
- 17:46charismatics.
- 17:47Uh they have a personal relation to
- 17:50Jesus. that is missing in the Catholic
- 17:54church where there are ritual and there
- 17:57are so many novena this and that
- 18:00pilgrimages that personal relation Jesus
- 18:03in me I in Jesus that is a manual
- 18:08experience people are seeking that
- 18:10seeking that and church should give it
- 18:16>> definitely most definitely you mentioned
- 18:19that after this vision Your blood
- 18:22pressure dropped significantly and your
- 18:24health suffered to the point where
- 18:27friends urged you to go to hospital. How
- 18:31does the physical weight of intercession
- 18:34and receiving such heavy messages affect
- 18:38your daily ministry as a missionary?
- 18:43>> Yes, my children. I can tell you
- 18:45honestly
- 18:47for me preaching
- 18:49is not the work. is a ministry. I'm
- 18:53ministering to Jesus. Jesus gave these
- 18:56sufferings as gifts uh to strengthen my
- 19:00work of evangelization.
- 19:02If Jesus had not suffered,
- 19:05surely he would not have been able to
- 19:08save mankind. That's why several times
- 19:11he said, "I should go to Jerusalem. I
- 19:14should go there to be crucified. On
- 19:17third day, I'll rise again." And I'm
- 19:19doing his work not my work. It is he who
- 19:23called me to go around and evangelize.
- 19:26And he gave me this gift you know in the
- 19:29year uh 1973
- 19:33first time 93. So so many years I have
- 19:37the wounds on my body. I carry and I
- 19:40suffer. When this particular things
- 19:43happen it touches my body. Here I tell
- 19:46you a great thing. Paul said, St. Paul
- 19:49said in 1 Corinthians chapter 15 verse
- 19:5345
- 19:55or 44, if you have a spiritual body, you
- 20:01if you have a physical body, you have a
- 20:04spiritual body too. So when we are born
- 20:08again in baptism, the Lord gave a
- 20:11spiritual body which people are not
- 20:14aware. Church has not made people to be
- 20:18aware of that. We experience God, we see
- 20:21God, we touch God, we smell God, we eat
- 20:26his body, drink his blood, etc. in the
- 20:29spiritual body, not in the physical
- 20:32body. And you know these two bodies are
- 20:36so intimate. So what affects the
- 20:39physical body affects the spiritual
- 20:41body. What affect the spiritual body
- 20:45affect the spirit of physical body. So
- 20:50when I see these things in my soul in my
- 20:53spiritual body what is happening in the
- 20:56church? For me church is not Rome for me
- 21:00church is not basilica. No, for me
- 21:03church is not built with the stone and
- 21:05brick. No, for me church is the body of
- 21:09Christ. Uh and I'm very very convinced I
- 21:13am connected with that body. That is my
- 21:16church. I am in the church. I am the
- 21:18church. And what affects church affects
- 21:21my body too naturally.
- 21:24As I saw in the vision
- 21:27that physically we see the cathedral
- 21:30basilas floating on the water and also
- 21:33dignitaries floating on the water that
- 21:36means distraction. This is the
- 21:38distraction within the church of the
- 21:41spiritual values and spiritual strength
- 21:44and stamina.
- 21:46So this is what I was seeing naturally
- 21:50it affected my body and usually my blood
- 21:54pressure is normal.
- 21:56It was difficult to control uh and my
- 22:00doctors immediately began working on
- 22:03that to give more uh BP blood pressure
- 22:07to the body and also profusely I began
- 22:11bleeding. I became very weak. Two years
- 22:14ago, I fell down while I was taking a
- 22:18shower. You know, usually I take shower
- 22:21sitting on a uh chair in the in the
- 22:25shower and that broke and fell down and
- 22:28my back was hurt. I didn't care. I never
- 22:32care such things. Now two years had
- 22:36severe pain on this day and doctors
- 22:39found out two of my vertebras are
- 22:42cracked.
- 22:43It is. So now just now I was for therapy
- 22:48that's why I'm late although I promised
- 22:50to come at 10:00.
- 22:52>> They are doing something with a kind of
- 22:54massage
- 22:55>> but I know it is coming from within.
- 23:01>> Yes.
- 23:02>> In [clears throat] a previous message on
- 23:04this channel you prophesied a coming
- 23:077-year global famine and shortage. In
- 23:12light of your latest September vision,
- 23:14how do these two timelines connect?
- 23:18Should the faithful be preparing
- 23:20spiritually, physically or both?
- 23:24Yes,
- 23:26is for that I shared my vision. Now in
- 23:31there are so many videos both in my
- 23:33language
- 23:35and also in English how to prepare and
- 23:39be ready to face the situation
- 23:42although I said seven years maybe even
- 23:45before look at the sporadic moment today
- 23:50we don't know when a nuclear
- 23:53war happens it is possible soon I see
- 23:59sooner
- 24:00and unimaginable
- 24:03if a nuclear war take place
- 24:07it's not a joke
- 24:09uh uh maybe
- 24:12three4 of people may die or be destroyed
- 24:16so I'm telling people as prophet Elijah
- 24:21said which was quoted by St. Paul in
- 24:25Romans chapter 11, I have kept for
- 24:29myself 7,000 men who did not bow before
- 24:34the bal before Satan. You know Satan is
- 24:39the one who is behind the sins and all
- 24:43this what negative evil and very clearly
- 24:48one John chapter 38 says he who sin
- 24:53belongs to Satan Bal.
- 24:57>> So today the Lord is picking up people
- 25:00who belong to him through life of
- 25:02holiness.
- 25:04You know in all my retreats I make the
- 25:07people to answer a question
- 25:10that is 1 Thessalonians chapter 4:E3.
- 25:14What is God's will for you? And I make
- 25:19them answer my holiness because very
- 25:22clearly Jesus says in that uh God's will
- 25:26for you is your holiness.
- 25:29Refrain from all evil especially
- 25:33immorality.
- 25:35We know the spirit of immorality
- 25:37everywhere. I don't want to go in
- 25:40detail. You know it. Even young people
- 25:43ask me father even when you go even to
- 25:47church people come half naked. Nakedness
- 25:50is everywhere. Ladies even showing their
- 25:53breast and stomach. We are human with
- 25:56our flesh and blood. Even in the church
- 26:00we cannot concentrate on God or heavenly
- 26:03reality such a way the spit of sexuality
- 26:08or the pornography
- 26:10everywhere. So very very very sad things
- 26:14I'm sure mother have seen sometimes
- 26:17weeping much uh seeing all this
- 26:21happening in the world today. We know
- 26:23the bodies are now used for sex not as
- 26:28temple of God not to worship God. Offer
- 26:32your bodies as a living sacrifice. The
- 26:35Lord said Romans 12 verse1 and nobody's
- 26:40aware of it. So in my
- 26:43uh if a distraction comes you my
- 26:46children you make a decision uh to
- 26:48belong to Jesus through holiness of
- 26:50life. So I make them write down in their
- 26:53heart after asking what is God's will
- 26:56for you my holiness write down when you
- 27:00plan something when you do something ask
- 27:03yourself is it God's will if it is God's
- 27:06will it will be for your holiness or
- 27:09that goes against the holiness is not
- 27:12God's will and thus live by personal
- 27:15prayer reading of the holy bible and
- 27:18daily holy mass and praying together in
- 27:21the family or prayer group and thus uh
- 27:26but the remnant the so-called remnant
- 27:29St. Paul said today also there will be a
- 27:32remnant chosen by grace. We know that
- 27:36Romans chapter 116.
- 27:38So the Lord through said
- 27:437,000 I kept for myself and today also
- 27:47despite all the persecutions and
- 27:50suffering or natural calamities or war,
- 27:54bombing, killing, destruction, the Lord
- 27:57has his own people who he knows whom he
- 28:01has called and separated. Uh who is
- 28:04chosen? Who is the holy one? who belongs
- 28:07to him. We are to recognize that in our
- 28:11conscience and make decision and follow
- 28:15his will. He is the way we know and look
- 28:18at his heart. Can see the way is opened
- 28:21in the heart and see today Mary mama at
- 28:25the foot of the cross looking at that
- 28:27way. She's telling listen to my son and
- 28:32look at him and follow him as I look at
- 28:35him and follow. Yes, this is what we are
- 28:39to do. This is my message today 15th of
- 28:43September feast of $7.
- 28:47>> It's beautiful, beautiful, beautiful.
- 28:51You noted in your initial uh reluctance
- 28:54to speak out of fear of how superiors
- 28:58and the faithful might react until the
- 29:02Lord showed you Ezekiel 33. I have
- 29:06appointed you a watchman. I will hold
- 29:09you responsible for his death. What
- 29:12message or encouragement do you have for
- 29:15other priests who feel called to warn
- 29:18their flocks but hesitate out of fear of
- 29:22institutional backlash?
- 29:26>> You know, I am a human being number one.
- 29:30And now when I'm in Europe or other
- 29:32countries, I'm a foreigner.
- 29:35I'm discriminated. You know, I'm an old
- 29:38man.
- 29:40uh and uh so when I see or I receive
- 29:44messages and visions I have my fear to
- 29:47share out
- 29:49uh that means I'm afraid of the
- 29:51hierarchy also what a remark would be
- 29:54there uh whereas even they may tell me
- 29:57to stop preaching it has happened two
- 30:00times uh when even I had a wounds I was
- 30:04forbidden to uh the what celebration of
- 30:07the mass and preaching etc
- 30:09I have many such incidents. So even now
- 30:12you know when I get a message I take
- 30:16some time to pray and ask the Lord is it
- 30:19God's will and when the Lord give me
- 30:22assurance
- 30:23I do it and I see it is my duty to
- 30:26correct even if the pope is offended
- 30:30even if the bishops are offended
- 30:32I should not look at the
- 30:36the people but at God I should not
- 30:39please people but please God. This is
- 30:42what the Lord told Isak. When you hear
- 30:46you as a prophet, I don't claim myself
- 30:50to be a prophet, but I'm doing the work
- 30:52of a prophet standing between God and
- 30:55people of God. So if I don't want I
- 30:59don't want the people, I'll be held
- 31:02responsible.
- 31:04That's why I did and shared and I showed
- 31:07the remarks in the foot pages in the
- 31:10comments they were very good people
- 31:12accepted except one or two people just
- 31:15criticized but many accepted with a good
- 31:18heart you can see that behind in the
- 31:22comments of the videos so I'm encouraged
- 31:26that I should go ahead of course there
- 31:29are some remark by the bishops father
- 31:32people may get frightened And I said yes
- 31:34they should have a fear of God. It's a
- 31:36gift of the Holy Spirit. Hallelujah.
- 31:39Today what has happened? People have no
- 31:41fear of God, no fear of man. Uh in the
- 31:44name of freedom, everyone does as he
- 31:47likes. That's a world a chaos that we
- 31:50have created. So uh I'm sure uh people
- 31:54will be offended may not be happy with
- 31:56me but I must please God.
- 32:00>> Yes.
- 32:02Thank you. Yes. You reflected on
- 32:04Revelation 21 stating that God may be
- 32:08removing the present institutional form
- 32:11of the church that has lost its salt and
- 32:15light to form a purified new Jerusalem.
- 32:20What does daytoday Christian life look
- 32:23like during this transition away from
- 32:27external structures?
- 32:30I not completely saying that we should
- 32:32get out of external structure. We need
- 32:36order. We need a structure. Must be
- 32:40spiritual.
- 32:41As I say, you are a bishop. You must be
- 32:44a spiritual leader rather than a leader
- 32:48of the worldly things.
- 32:51>> I tell the priest too. uh you are not
- 32:54called to run school or colleges or
- 32:58universities.
- 32:59You are not called to run companies. No,
- 33:02you are called to lead the people of God
- 33:06the sheep. So I say in the new Jerusalem
- 33:11I mean not a church without any
- 33:15structure. No, there should be a
- 33:17spiritual structure. We can see in the
- 33:20beginning of the church also uh Jesus
- 33:23appointed Peter as the ring leader pope
- 33:26and then the apostles there were the
- 33:28bishops but they were all appearing
- 33:31before people to preach the word of God.
- 33:34Can see the Lord tell go and preach.
- 33:37Never told to go and build a church or
- 33:38basilica. He never told go and write
- 33:41books. No they wrote the Bible later
- 33:44first thing go and preach give the
- 33:47message. So this is what the church has
- 33:50to do. I say of course we can make use
- 33:52of the structures that we have. Surely
- 33:55I'm not against that.
- 33:57I telling we hiding all these thing with
- 34:01a mask of exteriority.
- 34:04We know church is charismatic at the
- 34:07same time with a structure. uh it has
- 34:10got that character that the church is
- 34:13not only divine it is human too like
- 34:17Jesus had two natures a divine nature
- 34:20and phys with the human nature. So
- 34:23church also has that both natures but it
- 34:27must go together club together and the
- 34:30what is worldly should purify the other.
- 34:35So the what is spiritual should purify
- 34:38the world. This is God's way. Like in
- 34:40me, I have two personalities. Spiritual,
- 34:44I have a spiritual body. My spiritual
- 34:46body should sanctify my physical body.
- 34:50And all that happens in this physical
- 34:51body, I should use to strengthen my
- 34:54spiritual body. So also in the church
- 34:58that the people see I say people
- 35:01especially who belong to a religion that
- 35:04uh this not a religion it's not an
- 35:07institution
- 35:09uh it is not something external they
- 35:12have god with them like the Israelites
- 35:15in the past the enemies were afraid of
- 35:18them they have a god with them they knew
- 35:22a god who was walking with them fighting
- 35:25for them. uh so so today in the whole
- 35:29world the Muslims or Hindus or anyone
- 35:32should be able to see Jesus the living
- 35:36God walking with the Christians
- 35:39especially with the Catholics because I
- 35:40say Catholics because we had a holy mass
- 35:43where we had a physical presence of
- 35:46Jesus which we know many denominations
- 35:49don't uh acknowledge or believe what we
- 35:52believe every day uh on 500,000 altars A
- 35:56priest saying this is my body. This is
- 36:01my blood. The power of that body and
- 36:03blood is in this atmosphere
- 36:06and it should be what you call trans
- 36:10transmitted to the people radiate on the
- 36:13people that should happen from the
- 36:15church. I know destroy all that is
- 36:19structural. No, we need structure but
- 36:22not only structure but the spiritual the
- 36:26charismatic side.
- 36:28>> Yes. Amen. Also, um I was interested to
- 36:33hear um has the Lord revealed to you
- 36:37anything about the United Kingdom? I've
- 36:40heard that they have a lot of struggles
- 36:42at the moment with immigration, but I've
- 36:45also heard that um there's many many
- 36:48people flocking back to the Catholic
- 36:51Church.
- 36:51>> Yes.
- 36:52>> And um also we had King Charles um
- 36:56praying with the Pope um the first time
- 37:00in I think 400 years. Yeah.
- 37:02>> Um surely that's significant. Um do you
- 37:05have any insights, father?
- 37:09Uh I I read it, I hear about it. And
- 37:12this is happening not only in Britain,
- 37:14not only UK, everywhere, even in your
- 37:16own country, Australia.
- 37:18>> Yes.
- 37:19>> You know, many of the structures are
- 37:22attacked and destroyed. Uh and but at
- 37:25the same time, we see a few Christians
- 37:28are awakened coming up with the fire of
- 37:31the spirit.
- 37:32>> Yes,
- 37:33>> it's happening. That's what I said. We
- 37:36are happy about [clears throat] it that
- 37:37we optimistic you know this church will
- 37:40never break down. No, never. Jesus
- 37:43promise is that I give you the keys of
- 37:45the kingdom of God and kingdom of heaven
- 37:49and another word will have no authority.
- 37:52No, the real church and the real people
- 37:55of God will be unaffected.
- 38:00The God's protection will be there. But
- 38:02people who are on two chairs or two
- 38:04boards may sink. Uh some many we know
- 38:09many people want the church, want the
- 38:11mass, want the praise for their material
- 38:14wealth and material needs.
- 38:16>> And they using the church for their
- 38:19material prosperity.
- 38:21That is not the church. The church the
- 38:24two words of Jesus repent the kingdom of
- 38:28God is near. two words. The whole Bible
- 38:31can be summarized in these two words. Uh
- 38:35the Lord was speaking about that
- 38:38transformation as we read in 2
- 38:40Corinthians uh chapter uh 3:16. If
- 38:45anybody turns to God, all the mask will
- 38:48be broken and the Holy Spirit will come
- 38:51and transform his life from glory to
- 38:54glory and holiness to holiness. Yes,
- 38:58this is the church duty to do. And then
- 39:02in the same chap the second Corinthians
- 39:06chapter 4:16, we read the following
- 39:08chapter. Uh there'll be persecution.
- 39:12This bodily structure may go but my
- 39:15inner self will be again and again
- 39:17transformed and strengthened. What I see
- 39:21is what you call transitory.
- 39:24But what is within me, what is within
- 39:26the church is not transitory but
- 39:29eternal. Hallelujah. This is what the
- 39:32Lord wants. He came not to give us
- 39:35money, not to give us companies or
- 39:37business. No. Uh so the Lord came to
- 39:40give us the kingdom of God. It is near.
- 39:44That is a righteous life, a holy life.
- 39:46As we read in Romans chapter 14:7
- 39:52uh 14 chapter 14 verse 17, kingdom of
- 39:56God is righteousness, peace and joy of
- 39:59the Holy Spirit. This is what the church
- 40:02must be and is and the church is
- 40:06growing. That church will grow. And this
- 40:08fighting church already started dying.
- 40:10We can see that.
- 40:12Who makes all these war either in Israel
- 40:15or Iraq or anywhere? We can see people
- 40:18who have no faith in God, no love of God
- 40:21in the heart. If the love of God is in
- 40:24the heart, they cannot do this war and
- 40:27they fight each other and die. You know
- 40:29how many thousands are killed in Russia
- 40:33>> and how many thousands in all war
- 40:36soldiers, poor soldiers and poor women
- 40:40and children. So goes like that.
- 40:43>> So a group as I said in another vision
- 40:48is the what you call a taste without
- 40:51confiding in God and following God. And
- 40:55there's another group anti-Christian
- 40:57with the spirit of antich especally
- 41:00Islam we know that they want to destroy
- 41:03Christians. So these two groups are
- 41:06around us and we are persecuted. We know
- 41:10the persecution Africa now. So all this
- 41:13is happening to purify the church.
- 41:19[clears throat] The written message on
- 41:21the brown paper um proclaimed the
- 41:25kingdom of God will be taken away from
- 41:27you and given to people that produce its
- 41:31fruits. For ordinary lay Catholics
- 41:34trying to navigate these end times
- 41:37prophecies.
- 41:38What is the single most urgent step they
- 41:42must take today to ensure they are
- 41:45bearing true fruit?
- 41:49Yes,
- 41:50the message is very clear in itself.
- 41:55Bearing fruits, the fruits of the Holy
- 41:57Spirit, love, peace, joy and all
- 42:00virtues, a life with virtues.
- 42:04And those who bear that will continue
- 42:08will be embedded on the wine or fig and
- 42:13continue in Christ and others the Lord
- 42:17will take and give to others. That means
- 42:19a lot of conversions among Hindus, among
- 42:23Muslims that also I see many in this
- 42:28persecution time. Although we look at
- 42:30the Muslims are an image, many of them
- 42:33are meeting Jesus than you and me. They
- 42:37have more visions of the living God like
- 42:39Paul on the way to Damascus. And they
- 42:42are real authentic believers, not just
- 42:46like the traditional believers like you
- 42:49and me. Uh they are fire. I met many
- 42:53even in Europe in Vienna and Mun when I
- 42:56go around the immigrants who came here
- 43:00met Jesus. So the lord is allowing
- 43:03himself to be seen by them although we
- 43:06don't have a
- 43:08so the lord has his own plan it is his
- 43:12wineard
- 43:14uh church is his wineard he'll bring
- 43:17people there whichever religion belong
- 43:21so that we kish don't think heaven is
- 43:25our monopoly
- 43:27the lord will take to heaven the m the
- 43:31sea and the poor and the prostitutes and
- 43:34sinners because they see Jesus get a
- 43:38real conversion
- 43:40real about turn to God. But we mediocre
- 43:44cold tip it okay go to mass go to
- 43:49confession we pray and go on no real
- 43:53change in life
- 43:55so sure that's what I said the people
- 43:57who pride themselves as people belonging
- 44:01to the kingdom of god we Catholics we
- 44:03have a catholic pride you know I also
- 44:05have
- 44:06because we are a pope we are a key to
- 44:08kingdom of god I preach also
- 44:11But how many are real Catholics, real
- 44:15Christians? The question each one should
- 44:18put a hand on the chest and conscience
- 44:21and ask the Lord. Does Jesus belong to
- 44:25me now? Can Jesus look at me and say you
- 44:29are my own?
- 44:31You are my holy one. You are my royal
- 44:33priest. I have called you and separated
- 44:36you as mine.
- 44:38How many people the Lord can say that
- 44:43comment?
- 44:45>> So each one should know. So not with
- 44:49this judging with exteriority. I go
- 44:52daily mass. I receive communion. I go to
- 44:55confession. I give my tithing etc etc.
- 44:58That is a Pharisees word. The Lord is
- 45:02not calling Pharisees. No real authentic
- 45:06disciples. That's why very clearly the
- 45:08Lord said go and disciples of nations.
- 45:13He never told make Christians. The name
- 45:16Christian came after we know that till
- 45:19that time they were disciples. They very
- 45:22clearly inj they were called Christians.
- 45:25They were disciples who were Christians
- 45:28that put a mask.
- 45:30We are Christians because of maybe a a
- 45:32cross a Christian because we have a
- 45:35Bible in the heart or we have a church,
- 45:38a parish. No, that is not a mark of a
- 45:42disciple. A disciple living in Jesus for
- 45:46Jesus following and changing themselves
- 45:50to the image of Christ as we read basic
- 45:53vocation of a Christian. Romans
- 45:56[clears throat] chapter 8:29 from all
- 45:58eternity we are called uh to be like
- 46:02Jesus.
- 46:03Yes, we should be under Christ.
- 46:07>> Praise the Lord.
- 46:09>> Praise the Lord. As a priest who bears
- 46:12the mystical wounds of Christ, how do
- 46:15your personal sufferings and the rosary,
- 46:18the divine mercy chaplet play a role in
- 46:22mitigating or delaying the severe
- 46:24chastisements
- 46:26shown in your visions?
- 46:30>> You're asking my personal suffering.
- 46:33>> Yes,
- 46:35>> I'm carrying it.
- 46:37I already told some other videos who I
- 46:40shared there are many videos about that
- 46:44I personally suffer and join the
- 46:47sufferings of Christ.
- 46:50It is as we read uh to fill up the
- 46:55suffering lacking in the body of Christ.
- 46:58You know Jesus is alive
- 47:01and he continues living with us and when
- 47:04he was 33 years or three years working
- 47:07for the people. Yeah. He was carrying
- 47:11the sins and the consequence of sin
- 47:14and he became sin for us [snorts]
- 47:17and that Jesus is with us physically
- 47:21doing the same continues.
- 47:24So he's we are in sin. So he's carrying
- 47:28our sin. He's suffering.
- 47:30And those new as the apostles who are
- 47:33with Jesus had to suffer. That's why
- 47:36Peter said they did not. But with the
- 47:39Pentecost experience they were ready
- 47:41with the Holy Spirit. They were ready uh
- 47:44to be martyrs. In the beginning there
- 47:47were many martyrs. uh 55 popes were
- 47:50martyrs and people were standing in
- 47:52queue to suffer for Jesus and all this
- 47:55was happening because of the power of
- 47:57the holy spirit grace now all these are
- 48:00missing so when a little persecution
- 48:03comes when little inconvenience to live
- 48:06as a Christian here immedely we make
- 48:09compromise we leave the values
- 48:12we don't cling to Jesus who is suffering
- 48:17So that's a gift God has given me. I not
- 48:20holy man. It's not a stick m I tell
- 48:23everywhere don't tell I have stick that
- 48:26is for
- 48:28not for me. This only a sign of
- 48:31suffering
- 48:32suffering with the Christ because I do
- 48:34his work of evangelization
- 48:37and all those who want to live a holy
- 48:39life will be persecuted will be put to
- 48:42suffering. So suffering is a crucifi
- 48:46crucible in which we are purified. So
- 48:50that is personally for a priest or for
- 48:52anyone. So the lord allows me and for me
- 48:55from the beginning of my ministry I
- 48:58never said no to suffering. Whatever
- 49:01suffering happened I never told remove
- 49:03it. I always carry it across. Even now I
- 49:07never pray Lord give me grace to get up
- 49:09on my wheelchair and walk. I never pray
- 49:12remove my pain. No, I say give me enough
- 49:17help to preach your word today. That's
- 49:19enough for me. And so uh the crosses are
- 49:23given for me for my purification
- 49:27and a way to go to heaven. That's why
- 49:30always I have a crucifix with me uh
- 49:33under my pillow on my change. And when I
- 49:36walk around with the Bible, I hold this.
- 49:39I look at like Mother Mary looks at the
- 49:42cross of Christ on Calvary. When I look
- 49:44at the crucified Lord, I see mother Mary
- 49:48John the beloved disciple comes to my
- 49:50mind what happened 2,000 years ago. It's
- 49:54alive there. I see Mary mama. I see how
- 49:58seven sorrows even more sorrows seven
- 50:01church and counted but much more.
- 50:05all the sufferings of Jesus she shared
- 50:07and she's the first evangelist and she's
- 50:10the first charismatic as we know why she
- 50:13was able to stand today in the church
- 50:15people are singing that the tabatu
- 50:19uh Jesus standing at the foot of the
- 50:22Mary standing at the foot of the cross
- 50:24any mother would have been falling down
- 50:26and crying no she stood that is the
- 50:30power of the holy spirit and she knew
- 50:32what is the meaning of the suffering of
- 50:34our son not because he was criminal he
- 50:37was taking the crimes of others and she
- 50:40shared that she was full of grace she
- 50:43shared not because she's a sinner no as
- 50:46some people think no along with the holy
- 50:50son sharing her holiness and she had a
- 50:54suffering and this is what you and I
- 50:59should be ready to accept and that is a
- 51:02gift for Mary it was gift and she stood
- 51:07she was rejoicing with the magnificat in
- 51:09the heart never cursed suffering no as
- 51:14we Christians say why God you gave me
- 51:16this suffering why I am blind why have
- 51:20back pain why have cancer like that Mary
- 51:23never asked she knew the meaning of and
- 51:27Christianity is the what I call religion
- 51:30I don't call religion group of People I
- 51:34say [clears throat] to whom master has
- 51:36explained the meaning of suffering with
- 51:39the mother. Yes. Uh no other religion we
- 51:42find that the meaning of suffering
- 51:46everywhere suffering is a curse.
- 51:49So praying for removing the curse. It's
- 51:53not a curse. Suffering is sweet a gift
- 51:57of God through which we are redeemed and
- 52:00others are redeemed through our
- 52:02suffering and through Mary's and Jesus
- 52:05suffering uh the whole world was saved.
- 52:09Thank God and praise God. I love you.
- 52:12I'm very happy I shared so long with
- 52:14you. [snorts] Uh so I pray for all of
- 52:18you and all those all those people who
- 52:21uh view the videos of Ron knows me and
- 52:26know me because they're familiar. Some
- 52:28of you write to me. I have my email
- 52:31ganyakyahoo.com.
- 52:34Anybody can communicate usually I reply.
- 52:37So I pray for you. I wish all of you a
- 52:40very happy uh feast of Mary Mama. At the
- 52:44same time my children hold in your heart
- 52:48the messages I was speaking the bad time
- 52:51as St. Paul says time is very bad.
- 52:54Ephesians chapter 15 so 5:15 the time is
- 52:58evil and here don't be drunk on wine in
- 53:02which there is devout cherry but be
- 53:05filled with the holy spirit verse 18
- 53:09that means don't be filled with all this
- 53:11worldly precious not only wine or work
- 53:14or whiskey no the lord is speaking about
- 53:17all that is enchanting the world the
- 53:20world the more many things and today it
- 53:23is more that we know the internet AI AI
- 53:27chat AI chat has taken the place of god
- 53:33there many who say I can I don't need a
- 53:35god why should I need I can get
- 53:38everything from ai and our young
- 53:41generation
- 53:43slowly leaving god so understand this
- 53:47situation and let's get out of what do
- 53:50you call the the the the the
- 53:53clutches the evil clutch of the devil
- 53:57the hold and hold on to Jesus the Lord
- 54:00to the Holy Spirit so take the meaning
- 54:04of what I shared with you live an
- 54:06authentic Catholic Christian life and
- 54:08live according to God's will we will
- 54:11meet again here or there surely we are
- 54:14to meet uh only if we live a holy life
- 54:18we can meet each other again there's
- 54:20[snorts] Nothing unholy can go to the
- 54:22kingdom of God. So always think God's
- 54:27will for me is my holiness of life.
- 54:32Close your eyes.
- 54:33>> Yes.
- 54:34>> I give a blessing to you. Lord Jesus, I
- 54:36thank you and praise you for this time
- 54:39of interview. I pray that you bless us
- 54:42and bless all the listeners
- 54:45now and in future.
- 54:48May the word of God I spoke
- 54:51really transform their life. May the
- 54:54word become fresh in their lives to live
- 54:57an authentic Christian Catholic life
- 55:00without mask through the Holy Spirit and
- 55:03through God's grace.
- 55:06I bring all these people to your sacred
- 55:08heart to the heart of Mary our good
- 55:11mother. And I bless all of you in the
- 55:14name of the father
- 55:16>> and of the son and of the holy spirit.
- 55:20Amen.
- 55:21>> Amen. Thank you so much for joining us.
- 55:24>> God bless you. Pray for me.
- 55:27>> I will pray for me too. Thank you,
- 55:29father. God bless you.
- 55:31>> Okay. Bye.
- 55:32>> Bye.
- 55:32>> Bye.
- 55:33>> Bye.
- 55:39>> [music and bell]
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