НА МАРСЕ БЫЛА ЖИЗНЬ? Владимир Сурдин — Transcript
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- 0:00Remember in school, we were taught that
- 0:03Mars is a barren red desert.
- 0:05You can forget about that. Today,
- 0:07scientists know for sure that there is
- 0:09water on Mars, and plenty of it.
- 0:13It hides in the form of giant glaciers
- 0:15right beneath the dusty surface, freezes
- 0:18at the poles, and perhaps even lurks
- 0:20deep underground as salty lakes.
- 0:23But the main discovery of recent years,
- 0:26according to data from NASA rovers and
- 0:28Russian-European orbital probes, is that
- 0:31billions of years ago a vast, stormy
- 0:33ocean splashed on the Red Planet, and a
- 0:36Chinese rover even found traces of an
- 0:38ancient beach.
- 0:40And wherever there was liquid water,
- 0:42there were all the conditions for
- 0:44organic life to emerge. Was there life
- 0:47on Mars?
- 0:48And even crazier: are Martian microbes
- 0:50hiding beneath the surface?
- 0:52Right now, as you watch this video, this
- 0:55is the "Not Earthly" podcast. I am your
- 0:57host, Vladimir Tsurdin. In this episode
- 1:00, we will analyze the latest data from
- 1:02space missions.
- 1:04We will look under the Martian ice and
- 1:06find out why humanity is so obsessed
- 1:08with the search for Martian water.
- 1:10If you are interested in this topic,
- 1:13please like this video. And we begin.
- 1:23Long ago, back in the 19th century,
- 1:25astronomers became convinced that there
- 1:27was water on Mars.
- 1:29Do you think it's only today that we’ve
- 1:31been searching for it and can't seem to
- 1:32find it? Yes, it was discovered back in
- 1:34the 19th century. And do you know how?
- 1:36Even today, any amateur astronomer with
- 1:39a small telescope during Mars opposition
- 1:42, when it gets closer to Earth, can look
- 1:45at the Red Planet and see small white
- 1:48spots in the north and south, that is,
- 1:51at the north and south poles.
- 1:54So, these white spots long ago proved to
- 1:57astronomers that there are frozen gases
- 1:59on Mars.
- 2:01For quite a long time, astronomers had
- 2:04doubts about what exactly was frozen at
- 2:06the poles of Mars: water or part of the
- 2:08Martian atmosphere, carbon dioxide,
- 2:11which turns into snow and ice at low
- 2:13temperatures.
- 2:15On Earth, it is often used in
- 2:17refrigerators and small boxes where ice
- 2:20cream is stored.
- 2:22In short, it’s a familiar thing. Well,
- 2:24we recently realized that there is both
- 2:27frozen water and frozen carbon dioxide
- 2:29at the poles of Mars.
- 2:31They just appear in different
- 2:33combinations during different seasons of
- 2:35the year, when it is winter on Mars—and
- 2:37they have winter and summer just like on
- 2:40Earth, meaning polar nights and polar
- 2:42days.
- 2:42And so, during the polar night, both
- 2:46water and part of the atmosphere freeze
- 2:49, falling as snow on the pole and
- 2:52covering the large polar cap with dry
- 2:55ice and snow.
- 2:58But when summer arrives, the polar cap
- 3:00shrinks, the wide area covered by carbon
- 3:03dioxide evaporates into the atmosphere,
- 3:05and the water ice remains untouched, and
- 3:08there is quite a lot of it there.
- 3:11For example, in the middle of the ice
- 3:14cap at the North Pole of Mars, its
- 3:16thickness reaches about 3 kilometers.
- 3:19It's almost like our ice dome in
- 3:21Antarctica. Well, it shrinks just a
- 3:24little bit at the edges. In a word,
- 3:26water was found in its solid phase at
- 3:29the Martian poles, but solid water is
- 3:31not exactly a suitable environment for
- 3:34life to develop. But is there water in
- 3:38other regions of Mars?
- 3:40For example, in the mid-latitudes or
- 3:42even at the equator.
- 3:44This remained unclear for a long time
- 3:46until artificial satellites began
- 3:49operating around Mars.
- 3:57The housing question has never left
- 3:59anyone indifferent, even the cosmonauts
- 4:01of the first squad.
- 4:04Alexei Leonov described in his memoirs
- 4:05how apartment buildings were being
- 4:07constructed in Star City for cosmonauts
- 4:09and their families.
- 4:11These were eleven-story buildings with
- 4:13four apartments on each floor. The
- 4:15Leonovs were given an 86-square-meter
- 4:18home. As Alexei recalls, back then, that
- 4:21was incredible luxury. If you didn't get
- 4:24an official government apartment, you
- 4:27can find a suitable option on Cian. Many
- 4:30people are choosing secondary housing
- 4:32these days.
- 4:33Well, to afford more square footage at a
- 4:35good price.
- 4:38And to make sure you don't overpay, look
- 4:40for listings with the "Good Price" badge
- 4:42.
- 4:44It is assigned based on Rosreestr data
- 4:47on the cost of completed transactions,
- 4:49as well as bank statistics and Cian's
- 4:52analytics.
- 4:53On the site, you can study every
- 4:56property. The listing card includes
- 4:58price trends and Cian's valuation.
- 5:01And if you go to the report, you can see
- 5:03price changes, market demand and supply
- 5:05in general, and the history of listings
- 5:08in the desired and neighboring buildings
- 5:10.
- 5:11Cian helps you move in. How do you buy
- 5:14an apartment on the secondary market
- 5:16without overpaying? Link in the
- 5:18description.
- 5:25But is there water in other regions of
- 5:28Mars? For example, in the mid-latitudes
- 5:31or even at the equator.
- 5:33This remained unclear for a long time
- 5:36until artificial satellites began
- 5:38operating around Mars.
- 5:41And here, one observation must be made,
- 5:43which for many years, I would say,
- 5:45remained in the shadows.
- 5:47Who actually researched and discovered
- 5:49the presence of water on Mars over these
- 5:52past decades?
- 5:54Well, you might say Roscosmos hasn't
- 5:56flown to distant planets in a long time
- 5:58.
- 5:59Our Soviet probes flew to Venus, to Mars
- 6:02, and many times to the Moon.
- 6:05But in the new Russian space era, no one
- 6:09has sent spacecraft to Mars.
- 6:13Yes, they haven't sent them, but that
- 6:15doesn't mean our instruments haven't
- 6:17flown on other countries 'craft.
- 6:19And I'll tell you, our instruments
- 6:21proved to be indispensable there.
- 6:23For many years, remarkable detectors for
- 6:27finding water beneath the Martian soil
- 6:31have been flying on board American,
- 6:35European, and joint Russian-European
- 6:38spacecraft. They were all created
- 6:41primarily through the efforts of
- 6:43researchers at the Space Research
- 6:45Institute in Moscow. Well, of course,
- 6:48with the help of other institutes too,
- 6:50because these are neutron detectors.
- 6:53They are different types. They have
- 6:55flown on lunar orbiters and several
- 6:57times on various Mars orbiters.
- 7:00They work roughly like this: when a
- 7:03stream of cosmic radiation hits Mars,
- 7:06consisting mainly of fast protons, they
- 7:09strike the Martian soil and knock
- 7:12neutrons out of it.
- 7:15The neutron is a very interesting litmus
- 7:18test that can tell us about the presence
- 7:21of water ice beneath the soil. How does
- 7:24this happen? Look, the neutron and
- 7:27proton are almost twins. They have
- 7:30practically the same mass. Well, the
- 7:33proton has an electric charge, while the
- 7:35neutron does not.
- 7:37But when a cosmic proton crashes into
- 7:39the Martian atmosphere at high speed, it
- 7:41knocks out neutrons.
- 7:44And here is the further fate of those
- 7:46neutrons. They fly off in all directions
- 7:48.
- 7:49At first with high energy, because a
- 7:51fast proton knocked them out.
- 7:53But then they have options.
- 7:57If a neutron hits the nucleus of a heavy
- 8:00atom, it bounces off it like a wall,
- 8:02meaning it changes its flight direction
- 8:05but loses almost no energy.
- 8:08The heavy nucleus doesn't budge, and the
- 8:10neutron simply scatters off it.
- 8:13Then the neutron continues flying at
- 8:15high speed, and we register it as, well
- 8:18, a fast neutron.
- 8:20But if a knocked-out neutron hits a
- 8:24proton, its energy is split in half.
- 8:28These are two practically identical
- 8:30particles. And a neutron, after striking
- 8:34protons, loses its energy and slowly
- 8:37exits the soil. And what is a proton? It
- 8:41is a hydrogen nucleus. And what is
- 8:44hydrogen? Well, it is the main component
- 8:46of water. Water is H2O, meaning it
- 8:50consists 2/3 of protons, of hydrogen
- 8:54nuclei.
- 8:56Therefore, when we register neutrons, we
- 8:58can find out what they scattered off,
- 9:01what they bounced off, what they
- 9:03reflected from.
- 9:06And this is exactly what the method of
- 9:08probing shallow layers of Mars for the
- 9:11presence of water is based on. Yes, it
- 9:14may be frozen water, but it is still
- 9:16water, water ice.
- 9:18So, many instruments, for example, DAN—
- 9:21Dynamic Albedo of Neutrons—worked on and
- 9:24still works on board the Curiosity rover
- 9:27.
- 9:28Curiosity has been walking on Mars for
- 9:31many years, and this DAN instrument
- 9:34registers the presence of water ice
- 9:37along the rover's travel path.
- 9:40One can also perform such studies from
- 9:43orbit, well, probing, so to speak.
- 9:46For example, right now, the FREND
- 9:50instrument—Fine Resolution Epithermal
- 9:54Neutron Detector—is flying on board an
- 9:59American spacecraft.
- 10:02Previous neutron detectors that flew on
- 10:05spacecraft in the past surveyed almost
- 10:08the entire Mars, identifying areas about
- 10:10300 km in size.
- 10:13Well, that is a significant part of the
- 10:14size of the planet itself.
- 10:16And we created a rather rough, but very
- 10:18interesting map of the permafrost
- 10:20distribution on the surface of Mars.
- 10:23At one time, Mars did not rotate the way
- 10:26it does today. More precisely, its
- 10:29surface was not oriented the way it is
- 10:32today.
- 10:33And the poles of Mars were not where we
- 10:35see them today.
- 10:37Today we see them actually at the
- 10:39geographic poles.
- 10:41And in the past, when Mars was young and
- 10:43geologically active, a geological bulge
- 10:46formed in the northern hemisphere of
- 10:48Mars.
- 10:49Today we call it the Tharsis region. It
- 10:53has four massive volcanoes on it. One of
- 10:55them is the largest in the solar system
- 10:57. This is that very same 26-
- 11:00kilometer-high Olympus. Remember, I have
- 11:03told you about it repeatedly.
- 11:06So, this bulge caused the surface of
- 11:09Mars to rotate.
- 11:11And now Tharsis has moved to the
- 11:13equatorial region. And along with it,
- 11:15the old poles.
- 11:18So, the previous neutron detectors
- 11:20noticed that the polar regions and the
- 11:22ice-laden soil had moved almost to the
- 11:25equatorial region of modern Mars.
- 11:29Well, the new poles formed where the
- 11:31axis of rotation of Mars passes today.
- 11:34And for the current FREND detector, they
- 11:37created a special, well, you could call
- 11:40it a lens or a field-of-view limiter.
- 11:44It is a waffle-like structure, somewhat
- 11:47reminiscent of a honeycomb, which limits
- 11:50the instrument's field of view and
- 11:53allows it to examine spots on Mars only
- 11:5740 km in size.
- 11:59And the map of water distribution across
- 12:03the Martian surface became much sharper
- 12:06, much more detailed.
- 12:08I will tell you later what very
- 12:10interesting thing was discovered with
- 12:12this instrument.
- 12:14In short, the Russian neutron detectors
- 12:17created at the Space Research Institute
- 12:20in the Department of Nuclear Planetology
- 12:23under the leadership of Igor Mitrofanov
- 12:25turn out to be the best instruments in
- 12:28the world for sounding water on Mars.
- 12:32And not only on Mars, by the way, but on
- 12:34the Moon as well. And in the near future
- 12:38, they will also examine the surface of
- 12:41Mercury and look for water there.
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- 13:16So, let's get back to Mars. Water in
- 13:19frozen form exists on Mars.
- 13:22The question is: was liquid water ever
- 13:27on Mars? After all, liquid water, not
- 13:29solid, is needed for the development of
- 13:31life. Water is a universal biological
- 13:34solvent. Life does not form in solid
- 13:38water. Liquid water was on Mars.
- 13:41And we were convinced of this quite a
- 13:43long time ago, when we compiled the
- 13:44first topographical maps of the Martian
- 13:46surface.
- 13:48It has been known for many years that
- 13:51the northern hemisphere of Mars is on
- 13:53average lower than the equatorial and
- 13:56southern regions.
- 13:58And it is also much smoother. If you
- 14:01look at the maps of Mars, it immediately
- 14:04catches your eye that in the northern
- 14:06hemisphere there is a huge smooth plain
- 14:09, lowered compared to the rest of the
- 14:11terrain. And there are very few
- 14:13meteorite craters on it, which are
- 14:15numerous in the southern hemisphere.
- 14:17What is the reason for this?
- 14:19Few doubted that it was once an ocean
- 14:22floor.
- 14:23Admittedly, this still had to be
- 14:25verified, but it looks very much like it
- 14:27was an ocean floor.
- 14:29At some point, a very long time ago,
- 14:32about 4 billion years ago, as other
- 14:34geological observations show.
- 14:37But we did, after all, discover an ocean
- 14:40bed.
- 14:41The only question is when, how many
- 14:44times, in which eras, and in what form
- 14:47liquid water existed on Mars, because
- 14:50the beds are there, but the ocean is not
- 14:53. Moreover, there are riverbeds, but no
- 14:55water flows in them. And there are even
- 14:58lakes on Mars, or more precisely, lake
- 15:01basins, but they also have no water
- 15:04today.
- 15:06The work program for the latest American
- 15:09rover to arrive on Mars, Perseverance,
- 15:12was put together very well.
- 15:15It was landed in a crater that was
- 15:18actually once a lake. Yes, it is even
- 15:21called Jezero, which means lake. Well,
- 15:23it's an old Slavic word for lake.
- 15:26A large river once flowed into it.
- 15:30And you can clearly see how this river
- 15:32formed a delta as it flowed into this
- 15:35vast lake bed.
- 15:37Well, today there is no water in the
- 15:38river itself or in this basin.
- 15:41But when the river was flowing—and, by
- 15:43the way, this delta is very similar to
- 15:45the Volga or Nile delta.
- 15:48In both cases, we have examples of how a
- 15:51river carries sediments collected along
- 15:54its course, and it could have
- 15:57accumulated a large layer of ancient,
- 16:00multi-million-year-old deposits on the
- 16:03bottom of this lake.
- 16:05In general, deposits on lake bottoms are
- 16:09a very useful thing for geology. I
- 16:12immediately remembered a story here.
- 16:17Before the advent of modern geology, the
- 16:19age of our planet was calculated based
- 16:21on biblical legends.
- 16:23It was believed that a few millennia ago
- 16:26, God created the universe and the Earth
- 16:29. And, in general, these 5,000 to 6,000
- 16:31years were considered a normal age for
- 16:34our planet.
- 16:35And only when geologists began to study
- 16:38the deposits on lake bottoms and
- 16:41calculated how much sand a river carries
- 16:44and what thickness of deposits
- 16:46accumulated in ancient lakes, did they
- 16:49realize that our planet Earth is not
- 16:51thousands, but hundreds of millions of
- 16:54years old.
- 16:56This was a very important discovery.
- 16:58It forced a revision of many ideas about
- 17:00the formation of the Sun, the Earth, and
- 17:02indeed the entire universe.
- 17:05Thus, by using lakes as archives or
- 17:08museums of a planet's history, we can
- 17:10learn a great deal about it.
- 17:14And the fact that there was once water
- 17:16in these lakes also suggests that life
- 17:18could have developed there.
- 17:21And so, please, let's look at the latest
- 17:24data on this very Jezero, that is, the
- 17:27former Martian lake.
- 17:30It turned out that the Perseverance
- 17:33rover quite carefully studied the
- 17:35mineral composition of the soil it is
- 17:37roaming over in this lake.
- 17:40And it was revealed that water washed
- 17:43over this soil about three times in the
- 17:46history of Mars, and each of those three
- 17:49times in a different way.
- 17:51The first time, it was most likely water
- 17:54emerging from underground, perhaps in
- 17:57the form of some kind of geysers.
- 18:00The second time, lake water worked on
- 18:04its bed for a long time as, well, calm,
- 18:08normal, liquid water.
- 18:11And the third time, these were most
- 18:14likely hot flows stimulated by volcanic
- 18:17activity that emerged into the fissures
- 18:20of what was apparently a dried-up lake
- 18:24bed.
- 18:25So, three times in total. Well, at least
- 18:27there were three eras of minerals being
- 18:30washed by water on Mars.
- 18:33Which of them could have—or actually did
- 18:35—serve as a catalyst for the development
- 18:37of life, future research will show.
- 18:40But, at the very least, water appeared
- 18:42repeatedly. Where it disappeared to
- 18:45later, we have a fairly accurate idea.
- 18:48The main source, or more precisely, the
- 18:52main thief of water on Mars, is, of
- 18:56course, space.
- 18:58The thing is, Mars lost its magnetic
- 19:00field a long time ago, and the
- 19:03magnetosphere is what protects the
- 19:05atmosphere from drying out. Here on
- 19:08Earth, the magnetic field guards our
- 19:10atmosphere from solar plasma streams;
- 19:13otherwise, they would have dried up our
- 19:15Earth very quickly.
- 19:17And as long as Earth has a magnetic
- 19:19field, we can hope that our oceans and
- 19:21atmosphere will be preserved.
- 19:23Mars once had a magnetic field, but it
- 19:26disappeared quite a long time ago. Today
- 19:29, only residual magnetization remains in
- 19:32the rocks, which says: "Yes, there was a
- 19:35magnetic field, but it is long gone."
- 19:38For what reason? Well, the reason is
- 19:40almost obvious. Mars has a very small
- 19:43metallic core. And, most likely, it is
- 19:46already solid. Earth also has a solid
- 19:49metallic core, but it also has an outer
- 19:52liquid part. And a liquid conductor of
- 19:55electricity—metal—is the region where
- 19:57the magnetic field is generated.
- 20:00Mars lost its magnetic field, and along
- 20:02with it, it nearly lost its atmosphere
- 20:05and the oceans, seas, and lakes that
- 20:07evaporated into the atmosphere.
- 20:10But that is not all the water.
- 20:13Some of it went underground and froze
- 20:15for the same reason.
- 20:17Having lost its atmosphere, Mars lost
- 20:21its greenhouse effect.
- 20:23As you know, an atmosphere preserves the
- 20:25surface heat of any planet very well,
- 20:27especially Venus.
- 20:29And on Earth, the greenhouse effect is
- 20:31quite important, too.
- 20:34If our atmosphere did not have a
- 20:36greenhouse effect, Earth's average
- 20:38temperature today would be minus 25 ° C
- 20:41.
- 20:42The greenhouse effect adds another 40,
- 20:45almost 40 degrees.
- 20:46And today, Earth's average temperature
- 20:49from pole to equator is + 15 ° C.
- 20:51Thanks to the greenhouse effect. But
- 20:54Mars cannot say such a "thank you"
- 20:56because the greenhouse effect there is,
- 20:58well, minimal.
- 21:00The atmosphere there is so thin that,
- 21:02according to calculations, the
- 21:04greenhouse effect on Mars adds only
- 21:06about 7-8 degrees to the planet's
- 21:08average temperature, which is almost
- 21:10nothing.
- 21:12So, today's temperature on Mars is deep
- 21:15in the negative, and naturally, the
- 21:18water that remained near the surface has
- 21:22frozen and lies there as permafrost. But
- 21:25still, in the polar regions, there is
- 21:27water on the surface in the form of ice
- 21:29.
- 21:29And what kind of ice is it?
- 21:31Generally speaking, ice is an attractive
- 21:33resource. Imagine you have flown to Mars
- 21:36, dug up some water ice, heated it up,
- 21:40and it melted. Now you have water in
- 21:42your hands.
- 21:43But what kind of water will it be?
- 21:46Clean, dirty, or salty?
- 21:50That, of course, needs to be determined
- 21:52. Actually, we have already found out a
- 21:54few things about Martian water.
- 21:57The ice beneath the soil, the water ice
- 21:59, is quite salty and not very pleasant.
- 22:02There are a lot of perchlorates there.
- 22:04In short, it would need serious
- 22:07purification. But the ice that lies in
- 22:10the polar regions is practically snow.
- 22:15It is water condensate. It is always
- 22:18sterile, almost perfect, if not for the
- 22:21fact that there is a lot of dust in the
- 22:24Martian atmosphere.
- 22:27And here is an interesting story.
- 22:29Scientists have reviewed quite a lot of
- 22:33data on how Martian ice reflects light
- 22:36and how it changes the quality of
- 22:39reflected light during winter and summer
- 22:42. That is, as it thaws and refreezes
- 22:45slightly. And it turned out that Martian
- 22:48ice, water ice in the polar regions, is
- 22:52incredibly clean. There was almost no
- 22:55hope for this, but we remember well how
- 22:58the work of the first Mars rovers ended
- 23:01on Mars. Spirit, Opportunity, and the
- 23:04recent Chinese rover.
- 23:07All of them used solar panels as their
- 23:10source of electricity.
- 23:13There were calculations, which were
- 23:15confirmed, that tiny dust particles are
- 23:18constantly falling onto the surface from
- 23:20the Martian atmosphere.
- 23:22In general, there is quite a lot of dust
- 23:24in the Martian atmosphere. By the way,
- 23:26it is one of the reasons why Mars looks
- 23:29red.
- 23:30Any dusty air absorbs violet rays and
- 23:34lets red ones pass through.
- 23:38And so we see the Martian surface
- 23:41illuminated by red light. So, dust
- 23:44covered the solar panels quite
- 23:47intensively.
- 23:49For instance, the Chinese rover only
- 23:51worked for a year, as did Spirit and
- 23:52Opportunity.
- 23:53Well, Spirit didn't last very long
- 23:55either, just a few years.
- 23:56Opportunity got lucky.
- 23:59Dust covered its solar panels with a
- 24:02thin layer.
- 24:04They were almost out of commission, but
- 24:07strong winds during certain periods of
- 24:09Martian weather would blow this dust
- 24:11layer away, and the battery would work
- 24:14again.
- 24:16But, for example, some stationary
- 24:19landers with their solar panels didn't
- 24:21work for long.
- 24:23Well, they were unlucky. There was no
- 24:25wind, and dust covered their batteries.
- 24:28Therefore, there was an assumption that
- 24:30snow at the Martian poles was also mixed
- 24:33with Martian dust.
- 24:35In short, it would be some rather
- 24:37unpleasant frozen water. It would need
- 24:40to be filtered and somehow purified.
- 24:42What do you think? It turned out that
- 24:45according to calculations, if dust fell
- 24:49in the polar region as intensively as it
- 24:52does in equatorial areas, then Martian
- 24:55snow should have contained about 22%
- 24:58dust. Well, a whole lot. Dirty snow.
- 25:02Observations showed there is about half
- 25:06a percent of dust.
- 25:09And in some areas, well, for example, in
- 25:11the Korolev crater, a large crater named
- 25:14after our rocket engineer Sergey
- 25:16Pavlovich Korolev.
- 25:18So, the percentage of dust in the snow
- 25:21there is a fraction of a percent. Well,
- 25:23I don't know, it's hard to imagine any
- 25:26cleaner snow at all. Go there, scoop up
- 25:29the snow, melt it, and you'll have
- 25:32almost distilled, no, not almost, but
- 25:35exactly distilled water.
- 25:38So, there is snow in the polar regions
- 25:40of Mars.
- 25:41And it's clean. That's good.
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- 25:54>> Let's return to the great Northern Ocean
- 25:57of Mars. Calculations show that its area
- 26:00was almost equal to our Arctic Ocean.
- 26:04Wow. Yes, Mars is half the size of Earth
- 26:07, and its northern ocean was almost the
- 26:10same as our Arctic Ocean in area, but
- 26:13not in depth. In general, Earth's oceans
- 26:16are quite deep. You remember, of course
- 26:18, that the average depth of the world's
- 26:21ocean on Earth is 3.5 km.
- 26:24Well, there are shallower and deeper
- 26:26places like the Mariana Trench, but the
- 26:28average depth of our ocean is 3.5 km.
- 26:31And calculations show that the ocean on
- 26:34Mars was not that deep, about 300-400
- 26:37meters average depth. Well, you know,
- 26:40almost half a kilometer of depth for
- 26:42such a vast ocean is a large amount of
- 26:45water.
- 26:46Geologists had some doubts that this
- 26:50flat, low-lying area, the ocean bed, was
- 26:54really an ocean once.
- 26:57Do you know why? Measurements revealed a
- 27:00certain curvature of the coastline. And
- 27:05we understand that if it was ocean water
- 27:07, then the shore should have been, well
- 27:10, practically at water level. That is,
- 27:13everywhere at the same level.
- 27:16This confused geologists a bit, such a
- 27:18strange shore that is sometimes higher,
- 27:20sometimes lower, by several kilometers.
- 27:24But then geologists realized that this
- 27:26was a long time ago, about 4 billion
- 27:28years ago.
- 27:30And since then, as I told you, the
- 27:32geological history of Mars has been
- 27:34quite complex, quite active, and many
- 27:37processes, especially the shifting of
- 27:39the Martian surface, must have been
- 27:41linked to the deformation of the
- 27:43coastline.
- 27:45And this is exactly what geologists
- 27:47today believe explains why the shore of
- 27:50the dried-up ocean is not as level as it
- 27:53should have been.
- 27:55And the question of whether this is
- 27:58really a shore, it turned out, could be
- 28:00solved.
- 28:02You remember that not only American
- 28:05rovers worked on Mars, but the latest
- 28:09one to arrive was Chinese.
- 28:12The Chinese rover, which is called
- 28:15Zhurong, landed in the spring of 2021
- 28:18and actively worked until the spring of
- 28:212022 along the supposed coastline of the
- 28:25Martian ocean.
- 28:27And what did it find out? It discovered
- 28:29a very important thing.
- 28:32The thing is, it was equipped with a
- 28:34unique instrument called a geolocator,
- 28:37that is, a radar that probes the soil to
- 28:40a certain depth.
- 28:42Well, Chinese scientists say up to 80
- 28:45meters, but I saw reliable results from
- 28:4830 to 50 meters deep.
- 28:51Maybe it did scan the ground down to 80
- 28:53meters in some places, but it certainly
- 28:55did for several dozen meters.
- 28:57And what did it discover?
- 28:59That this was indeed a coastline.
- 29:02It was a beach.
- 29:05First, it detected features there, well
- 29:08, I would call them dunes, which we
- 29:10usually encounter on the shores of seas
- 29:13, and sometimes even lakes, when water
- 29:15rolls in and out, leaving behind these
- 29:18little mounds.
- 29:21Second, the slope of the coastline
- 29:25itself matches exactly the slope of the
- 29:28shores of our own earthly oceans.
- 29:33There is no doubt that this really was a
- 29:35former beach where the Chinese rover was
- 29:38driving.
- 29:39Admittedly, these coastal formations are
- 29:42now covered by a ten-meter layer of
- 29:44sedimentary soil, mostly Martian dust.
- 29:48But calculations show that over 3
- 29:51billion years, 10 meters of dust should
- 29:53indeed have covered the shore of an
- 29:55ancient ocean.
- 29:58So there is no doubt left that
- 30:00underneath a ten-meter layer of dust
- 30:03lies the former shore of the Martian
- 30:06ocean.
- 30:07This is now a scientific fact.
- 30:10Moreover, the way radio waves reflected
- 30:14off this ground indicates to us the size
- 30:18of the grains of sand lying there.
- 30:22Their size turned out to be from
- 30:24fractions of a millimeter to 1-2
- 30:25millimeters.
- 30:27This is typical sand on our beaches, as
- 30:30you can see.
- 30:31The Chinese rover did some very useful
- 30:33work. Although it was short, only one
- 30:35year, the ground-penetrating radar did
- 30:38its job. By the way, the same kind of
- 30:40ground-penetrating radar works on
- 30:41Chinese lunar rovers. Two rovers worked
- 30:43there, on the visible and the far
- 30:45hemispheres. And both of them also had
- 30:47ground-penetrating radars. As you can
- 30:49see, the instrument turned out to be
- 30:51very useful.
- 30:58We can draw some conclusions.
- 31:01There is water on Mars, but so far it
- 31:04has only been found as ice on the
- 31:06surface or permafrost that binds the
- 31:08Martian soil.
- 31:11By the way, the water-richest permafrost
- 31:14was found at the bottom of the giant
- 31:17canyon, Valles Marineris.
- 31:21This is an incredible crack in the
- 31:23Martian surface nearly 4,000 kilometers
- 31:25long and up to 800 kilometers wide in
- 31:28some places.
- 31:30And it's up to 10 kilometers deep in
- 31:32some areas; generally, it's from 5 to 8
- 31:34kilometers, with some parts reaching 10
- 31:37.
- 31:37Can you imagine? You could put our
- 31:39Everest into this fault, and it would
- 31:42disappear inside.
- 31:43The origin of this giant scar on the
- 31:46surface of Mars is not very clear, but
- 31:49it is obvious that it once contained a
- 31:52lake inside it.
- 31:54Well, in a way, it reminds me of our
- 31:56Lake Baikal. After all, Baikal is also a
- 32:00crack in the Earth's crust, into which
- 32:03water drains from the surrounding rivers
- 32:06. But the Martian Baikal, the Valles
- 32:09Marineris, is of course much larger and
- 32:12much deeper than Baikal.
- 32:15Water was once there, and judging by the
- 32:18geography, it seems the Valles Marineris
- 32:21was connected to the Northern Ocean, and
- 32:23most likely, water circulated between
- 32:26these valleys and the main northern
- 32:29ocean on Mars.
- 32:31But later, when the ocean was drying up
- 32:33—and it wasn't very deep, just hundreds
- 32:36of meters—water was preserved for much
- 32:39longer in the very deep valleys of the
- 32:41Marineris.
- 32:43Well, imagine, a multi-kilometer layer
- 32:45of water wasn't so easy to evaporate
- 32:47into space.
- 32:48That is why there was hope to find the
- 32:51most water-rich soil specifically there
- 32:55.
- 32:55And that is where it was found.
- 32:58It was a Russian instrument, a neutron
- 33:00detector, that discovered a very high
- 33:03water content in the soil along the
- 33:05floor of the Valles Marineris, from 15
- 33:08to 20%.
- 33:11And in some of the deepest places, up to
- 33:1440%, meaning that almost half of the
- 33:17soil there is water ice.
- 33:20Unfortunately, no spacecraft has flown
- 33:23to this location yet. It is very
- 33:25difficult to land there. Truly, it is an
- 33:27extremely complex task for engineers.
- 33:30But one day, we will definitely send a
- 33:33flying probe there. You remember that
- 33:36one electric helicopter has already
- 33:37operated on Mars. For a short time, it
- 33:40proved that one can fly in the Martian
- 33:42atmosphere.
- 33:43And now the most desirable destination
- 33:46for it is, of course, the floor of the
- 33:48Valles Marineris, where large remnants
- 33:51of water might be preserved in a frozen
- 33:54state, and where radiation is weakened
- 33:56because the high canyon walls provide
- 33:59good protection against cosmic radiation
- 34:01streams.
- 34:03They can only come from the zenith, but
- 34:05not from the right or the left. In short
- 34:07, the Valles Marineris is a promising
- 34:10place for astrobiologists, and I think
- 34:12helicopters will help them in this.
- 34:22But the question is, is there any liquid
- 34:24water on Mars?
- 34:27There have been some indirect
- 34:29indications that it occasionally appears
- 34:32, for example, on the slopes of
- 34:35volcanoes, on the slopes of steep
- 34:37inclines, Martian ravines, or deep
- 34:40meteorite craters.
- 34:43In the spring, when the sun warms things
- 34:46up, strange dark streaks appear that
- 34:49resemble a stream of water flowing down
- 34:52sandy ground.
- 34:55But the temperature is still well below
- 34:57freezing. What kind of water could that
- 34:59be?
- 35:00Calculations show that if this water is
- 35:03heavily saturated with salts, for
- 35:06example, certain perchlorates that lower
- 35:08its freezing point at low temperatures—
- 35:11just like how we scatter salt on ice and
- 35:14snow in winter, and it begins to melt at
- 35:17-15 ° C—then it could be water.
- 35:20But it doesn't last for very long anyway
- 35:22.
- 35:23Even if it has thawed and started
- 35:25flowing, it almost immediately
- 35:27evaporates and freezes.
- 35:30The thing is, Mars has very low
- 35:32atmospheric pressure, 160 times lower
- 35:35than on Earth.
- 35:37At such low pressure, liquid water
- 35:39cannot exist at all.
- 35:42It simply doesn't have a liquid state
- 35:44under those conditions.
- 35:46At low pressure, it is either ice or
- 35:49vapor.
- 35:51Both are present in the Martian
- 35:53atmosphere: there is water vapor, ice in
- 35:55the soil, and snow at the polar caps,
- 35:57but liquid water cannot exist at such
- 35:59low pressure.
- 36:00But what if the pressure is higher, and
- 36:02where could it be higher? Under the soil
- 36:04, at depth, and by the way, the
- 36:06temperature is higher there too. Every
- 36:09planet is structured so that it is
- 36:11hottest at the center and coldest at the
- 36:14surface. There is a temperature gradient
- 36:17as you descend; even on Earth, when
- 36:20miners go into a deep mine, the
- 36:22temperature is very high, and the deeper
- 36:25you go, the higher it gets.
- 36:28Therefore, there was hope that at great
- 36:30depths on Mars, the temperature and
- 36:31pressure would be higher, and liquid
- 36:33water might exist there.
- 36:36There was even a moment when we thought
- 36:38we had discovered a lake under the
- 36:41Martian surface.
- 36:43This discovery is linked to the European
- 36:46Mars Express orbiter.
- 36:49On board, it carried a long-wave radar.
- 36:53Since the radio wavelength was long, it
- 36:56could penetrate quite deeply beneath the
- 36:58surface.
- 37:00And there was a report that in the
- 37:03region of the Martian south pole, at a
- 37:06depth of about one and a half kilometers
- 37:09, a region resembling liquid water was
- 37:12detected.
- 37:14The reflection of radio waves was just
- 37:16like that from liquid water.
- 37:18For a while, we were almost certain that
- 37:21we had found a liquid lake under the ice
- 37:24cap, under the southern ice cap of Mars
- 37:26.
- 37:27It was very exciting. It somewhat
- 37:30resembled Lake Vostok in Antarctica on
- 37:33Earth.
- 37:35You know, under the ice dome of
- 37:37Antarctica at a depth of 3 km, there is
- 37:39a liquid lake, which is currently being
- 37:42studied as an example of what liquid
- 37:44lakes might be like on other planets
- 37:46underground.
- 37:48Well, we haven't found microorganisms in
- 37:51our Lake Vostok yet, and there was hope
- 37:54that they exist on Mars, but recently
- 37:56doubts have arisen.
- 37:59Perhaps it is not a space filled with
- 38:02liquid water, but soil saturated with
- 38:04liquid water.
- 38:06Like some kind of wet clay.
- 38:09In that case, radio waves would reflect
- 38:11in a similar way.
- 38:12But, after all, wet clay is not an ocean
- 38:15, it is not a lake where life can
- 38:17develop. Although biologists might
- 38:19correct me. In short, there are doubts
- 38:22for now, but it still seems that liquid
- 38:26water exists on Mars just below the
- 38:29surface, literally in the first few
- 38:32millimeters or centimeters of depth.
- 38:35Well, you might say: "But it's cold
- 38:37there, that can't be possible."
- 38:39It turns out that a mineral environment
- 38:41, that is, a rocky environment, can be
- 38:44permeated with thin channels where water
- 38:46—especially if enriched with
- 38:48perchlorates—does not freeze, and
- 38:50microorganisms can develop within it.
- 38:53Well, tiny bacteria. And there is hope
- 38:56for this as well. We need to search just
- 38:59below the Martian soil for the presence
- 39:02of liquid water and, consequently,
- 39:04living space for microbes. I would like
- 39:08to remind you that such an experiment
- 39:10almost took place.
- 39:12The point is that a drilling rig needed
- 39:15to be delivered to Mars to penetrate to
- 39:17a depth of about a meter, where cosmic
- 39:20radiation no longer reaches and where
- 39:22conditions for life—and thus living
- 39:25organisms—could exist in the soil.
- 39:28Such an experiment was conceived and
- 39:31almost implemented.
- 39:33For many years, Russian and Western
- 39:35European Mars researchers have been
- 39:37working together and preparing the joint
- 39:40ExoMars experiment.
- 39:42Its first part was carried out. A
- 39:44Russian rocket sent a European
- 39:46spacecraft, a Mars satellite, to Mars
- 39:49and placed it into orbit around the Red
- 39:52Planet. And it, equipped with both
- 39:54Russian and European instruments, is
- 39:57still operating today, over 10 years
- 40:00later.
- 40:02We have obtained wonderful experiments
- 40:04and remarkable results from studying the
- 40:06Martian surface and atmosphere over
- 40:08these years.
- 40:11The second stage of the ExoMars program
- 40:14involved a Russian rocket and a Russian
- 40:16lander, which was supposed to deliver a
- 40:19small European rover to the Martian
- 40:22surface equipped with our instruments
- 40:25and European ones, but most importantly
- 40:27, with a drilling rig capable of taking
- 40:30samples from a depth of one to two
- 40:33meters and testing them for the presence
- 40:36of living microorganisms.
- 40:39The launch of this mission was scheduled
- 40:43for August 2022.
- 40:45Of course, it did not take place. It is
- 40:48a great pity that politics interfered
- 40:49with science once again. And we are
- 40:52waiting for this experiment to happen
- 40:54someday. Well, perhaps not with our
- 40:58participation.
- 41:00Maybe our European colleagues will be
- 41:02able to, although they still haven't
- 41:04been able to carry out this experiment
- 41:06without our help.
- 41:08Maybe our Chinese colleagues will do
- 41:10something similar. In a word, we must
- 41:13drill into the Martian soil. We hope to
- 41:16retrieve living microorganisms from a
- 41:19depth of several meters.
- 41:21But for now, only traces.
- 41:23And it is interesting that just a few
- 41:26months ago, this summer, an article was
- 41:29published in the journal Nature that
- 41:31continued the investigation of strange
- 41:34spots on the surface of Martian rocks,
- 41:37which were first discovered by the
- 41:39Perseverance rover in 2024.
- 41:43They were given the provisional name "
- 41:46poppy seeds"—these are very small black
- 41:49dots or larger spots that were called "
- 41:52leopard spots" or patches.
- 41:55And they look very much like the result
- 41:58of microorganism activity. Of course,
- 42:00they are on the surface, and it is
- 42:03impossible to find any living organisms
- 42:06there.
- 42:07Mars is bombarded by cosmic radiation,
- 42:10but the results of this recently
- 42:13conducted study show that there are long
- 42:17organic molecules, carbon-containing
- 42:20molecules, there.
- 42:23This study was done in a very
- 42:25interesting way: remotely, using an
- 42:27ultraviolet laser, the luminescence of
- 42:30these molecules—fluorescence—was excited
- 42:32.
- 42:34And a special method, Raman scattering,
- 42:37allowed us to understand that these are
- 42:40long chains, resembling polymers.
- 42:43Strictly speaking, all of our
- 42:46terrestrial biology consists of
- 42:48carbon-based polymer compounds.
- 42:51This includes proteins and DNA, which is
- 42:54also a long polymer molecule. But
- 42:58understanding the structure and
- 43:00composition of these alleged polymers is
- 43:02not yet possible. This is quite a
- 43:05preliminary research method. They must
- 43:08be brought to Earth. Here we have a much
- 43:11larger instrument base, where we can
- 43:13study all of this more accurately.
- 43:16This is just a hint that, look, maybe
- 43:18these are the remnants of life that once
- 43:20existed on Mars, but they need to be
- 43:22brought to Earth.
- 43:25And there was such a hope.
- 43:27You know that as part of NASA's major
- 43:30Mars project, it was intended—and the
- 43:33first stage is already underway—to
- 43:37collect the most interesting samples on
- 43:40Mars, and then deliver a small spaceport
- 43:44there, I would say a micro-spaceport,
- 43:47with a launch pad and a small rocket.
- 43:51To load the collected samples into this
- 43:53rocket.
- 43:55The rocket would head to Martian orbit,
- 43:57transfer these samples to another rocket
- 44:00, which would then send them to Earth.
- 44:05It was a very interesting experiment
- 44:07from a technical point of view, but a
- 44:09very expensive, multi-stage one, which
- 44:11NASA, unfortunately, canceled.
- 44:14There isn't enough money for it.
- 44:17Chinese engineers are trying to repeat
- 44:19this story, but naturally, it will take
- 44:22them many years to create this entire
- 44:24system.
- 44:25And whether they will have enough money
- 44:28for such a complex, multifaceted
- 44:29experiment is also unclear for now. So,
- 44:32there is no point in waiting for Martian
- 44:34soil samples on Earth in the coming
- 44:36years. We need to work there. And some
- 44:39things have already been achieved.
- 44:41Besides these polymers, I came across
- 44:43another interesting piece of work.
- 44:46The same Perseverance rover, which is
- 44:49operating very successfully in Jezero
- 44:51Crater, an ancient lake, discovered
- 44:54something.
- 44:55I will read it directly.
- 44:59In the western part of Jezero Crater, a
- 45:02former lake, deposits of nickel have
- 45:04been found—nickel similar in properties
- 45:08and structure to Earth rocks formed as a
- 45:11result of microbial activity in the
- 45:13Archean and Paleoproterozoic eras.
- 45:18Well, you know that microbes often
- 45:20gather certain rare chemical elements
- 45:23into denser concentrations.
- 45:26Actually, thanks to this, we find
- 45:28deposits of metallic and other ores on
- 45:30Earth. I will quote to you what one of
- 45:33the researchers in this group said.
- 45:36While studying this region, the
- 45:38Perseverance rover encountered deposits
- 45:41of iron, sulfur, and organic compounds
- 45:44containing a record amount of nickel for
- 45:47Mars, with a share reaching over one
- 45:50percent of the total mass of these rocks
- 45:53.
- 45:54Nickel plays an important role in the
- 45:57life processes of Earth's living
- 45:59organisms, and its presence alongside
- 46:02sulfur and organics underscores the need
- 46:05to bring these samples to Earth.
- 46:08In other words, so far we have only
- 46:11stumbled upon something interesting, but
- 46:14the relatively simple field instruments
- 46:17operating on board the rovers are unable
- 46:20to provide a definitive answer as to
- 46:23whether these rocks are the product of
- 46:25ancient Martian life or the product of
- 46:28modern life—the kind of life hiding
- 46:31beneath the Martian surface and perhaps
- 46:34lurking at a shallow depth,
- 46:37just waiting for us to dig.
- 46:40I hope this happens soon.
- 46:43I wish the first drilling rigs would
- 46:45arrive on the surface of Mars soon to
- 46:48potentially retrieve actual
- 46:50extraterrestrial Martian life from under
- 46:53the soil.
- 46:54I truly hope for that.
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