🛑 БЕБі Покемон та РПД від Дяді Вані 💥#рпд #ПКМ #рпд разборка — Transcript
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- 0:00In common parlance
- 0:01>> Uncle Vanya.
- 0:01>> Uncle Vanya. I want to thank another
- 0:04serviceman for his two machine guns.
- 0:07Doc, thank you. Cool stuff. The "
- 0:11Pokemon" is the best. It seems like
- 0:13they don't just recruit them, it’s
- 0:15like you’re cloning them all in the
- 0:17back room. You said it perfectly. And I
- 0:20started thinking, yeah, it really seems
- 0:23like you’re cloning them.
- 0:25>> Well, but then we'd have to feed all
- 0:27the soldiers who served there.
- 0:28>> Named the baby Pokemon. Who says: "Fire
- 0:30!"
- 0:31>> For any question you have, we have an
- 0:32answer. We have a machine gun, and you
- 0:34don't.
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- 0:44well.
- 0:49>> Hi, I'm Dmytro. You are on the Orgovnet
- 0:51channel. Today, I and you have a guest,
- 0:54none other than Ivan Savelyev,
- 0:56commander of the repair platoon of the
- 0:58512th Separate Repair and Restoration
- 1:00Battalion of the 3rd Army Corps, in
- 1:02common parlance
- 1:04>> Uncle Vanya.
- 1:05>> Uncle Vanya, the well-known, famous
- 1:07Uncle Vanya. And, accordingly, his
- 1:10machine guns.
- 1:11>> Yes,
- 1:12>> Uncle Vanya's RPDN machine guns. That's
- 1:15an N, right, definitely for night,
- 1:17right? RPDN.
- 1:19>> RPD Vanya. Baby Pokemon and that's it.
- 1:23Yes, yes, yes. Everything else we have.
- 1:26Yes, here for—oh, by the way, I want
- 1:28to thank another serviceman for his two
- 1:31machine guns.
- 1:32>> Yes,
- 1:33>> yes, two, two machine guns. Doc, thank
- 1:36you. Cool stuff.
- 1:39>> Yes, Doc is also a well-known officer
- 1:42of the 3rd Army Corps, a big fan of
- 1:45various small arms. Why did the desire
- 1:48to talk about machine guns arise?
- 1:49Because I once filmed videos and said
- 1:51that, well, in my personal opinion, the
- 1:53Pokemon is the best, but people argued
- 1:55with me, like, what are you talking
- 1:57about, that’s crap. I still stand by
- 2:00my opinion that the Pokemon is probably
- 2:02, at the moment, the best
- 2:03general-purpose infantry machine gun.
- 2:06It probably can't be called
- 2:07general-purpose. Wait,
- 2:08>> why can't it be called general-purpose?
- 2:12The PKM has a tripod that is quite
- 2:14successful, quite light, like, even,
- 2:16well, it's light even by modern
- 2:18standards of weight and all that, it's
- 2:21quite light, and quite convenient. Well
- 2:24, it's just that they aren't used as
- 2:27much, given that the form of our combat
- 2:29operations has changed a bit. That’s
- 2:33how it was created, you see, the PK
- 2:36machine gun itself was designed as a
- 2:39general-purpose machine gun, because by
- 2:43the mid-60s, when it entered service,
- 2:46the Soviet Union had managed to
- 2:49replicate what our German comrades had
- 2:52come up with back in the 40s. Well,
- 2:56essentially, the concept of the
- 2:57general-purpose machine gun dates back
- 2:59to the early 30s. The first one was the
- 3:02MG-34, then the MG-42, and by the end
- 3:05of the Second World War, those were the
- 3:08only two examples of such weapons in
- 3:11the world, because everyone else used
- 3:14either light machine guns or heavy
- 3:17tripod-mounted machine guns. There.
- 3:20>> So explain the logic of a
- 3:21general-purpose machine gun to me. I
- 3:24mean, in my understanding, why it—
- 3:25well, a Maxim, for instance, cannot be
- 3:27fully considered a general-purpose one,
- 3:29because to mount it on a tank, which is
- 3:30called the PKT, it has to be
- 3:32significantly modified. But the MG5,
- 3:34for example,
- 3:35>> can be mounted on a tank. You just
- 3:37change the stock.
- 3:38>> The ideology is universal. A
- 3:41general-purpose machine gun is
- 3:43>> a machine gun that can be used as a
- 3:44light machine gun,
- 3:45>> yes,
- 3:46>> and as a tripod-mounted one.
- 3:48Specifically tripod-mounted, meaning on
- 3:50a mount.
- 3:51>> There. And tank modifications of
- 3:54machine guns are, uh, really a
- 3:56completely separate story. Why? They
- 3:59have entirely different requirements.
- 4:00>> All right, I understand. So,
- 4:02>> so a general-purpose machine gun,
- 4:03>> right? The PKM is a true
- 4:04general-purpose machine gun. It allows
- 4:07you to engage in combat, attacking and
- 4:11assaulting. It allows you to conduct
- 4:13defensive combat. It is, well, on a
- 4:16tripod. And the tripod allows for
- 4:19anti-aircraft fire. It does have that
- 4:22function, it's not very convenient, but
- 4:24still. So back in the 40s, the sign
- 4:27that a machine gun was a
- 4:28general-purpose one—meaning the
- 4:30complex of the machine gun and the
- 4:33tripod—meant that it had to have a
- 4:35tripod, it had to have a bipod, and the
- 4:38tripod had to allow for firing at both
- 4:40ground and aerial targets. That's it.
- 4:42And it was within this concept that the
- 4:46PKM was built, because its predecessor,
- 4:49the Goryunov SGM-43, SG43, and then SGM
- 4:53, could be used as a tripod-mounted
- 4:56machine gun and could be used as an—
- 5:01anti-aircraft gun on its own tripod,
- 5:04but it couldn't really be used as an
- 5:06infantry machine gun for assaults. The
- 5:09RP-46 machine gun, which was in service
- 5:12at the same time as the SGM. It's a
- 5:14Degtyaryov machine gun. Well, another
- 5:18one of its modifications.
- 5:20>> The third one. And, uh, it couldn't
- 5:24really be used as a—general-purpose
- 5:29machine gun either. Why? Because it
- 5:30couldn't be placed on a tripod, and you
- 5:32couldn't attach a box with a belt to it
- 5:34. It already had belt-fed ammunition,
- 5:36the RP-46. But nobody knew where that
- 5:39belt was supposed to go. So, somewhere.
- 5:42And, accordingly, there was a need to
- 5:45create a light machine gun. And, well,
- 5:47the end of the war, the forty-fifth,
- 5:50forty-sixth, forty-seventh years—that
- 5:52is, the moments they were adopted—
- 5:54three breakthrough weapon models were
- 5:56accepted. These were the Kalashnikov AK
- 5:58-47 assault rifle, the self-loading
- 6:02>> Simonov carbine. The Simonov carbine
- 6:05and the Degtyaryov light machine gun,
- 6:08>> the RPD-44. There. Well, it is clear
- 6:11that none of these models took part in
- 6:13the Second World War. These are purely
- 6:16post-war models. That is, their first
- 6:18war was the Korean War, the Vietnam War
- 6:20. That is, uh, and from, uh, to this,
- 6:25well, that is, for almost 20 years,
- 6:29from '45 to '65, this whole story
- 6:32continued. And then, somewhere, they
- 6:36managed the PK first, then the PKM.
- 6:40Essentially, this is the mid-60s. It
- 6:45was adopted for service in the mid-60s.
- 6:51The PKM, like it is now, it was, well,
- 6:57a rather significant weapon model. Why
- 7:01so? Because its main opponent from the
- 7:06NATO bloc was the M240 machine gun.
- 7:11>> And the 240th,
- 7:12>> right? Because the M60 is not a machine
- 7:14gun, it’s an evolutionary glitch. So,
- 7:17uh, the M240 machine gun traces its
- 7:20origins back to the Browning Automatic
- 7:24Rifle of 1918. It has an absolute, well
- 7:29, locking system, all those bells and
- 7:31whistles are the same. It is very well
- 7:34made. It is very reliable. Uh, there
- 7:38are absolutely no questions about it,
- 7:41except for the weight.
- 7:42>> Except for one thing. Weight,
- 7:44>> yes, weight. Well, again, when you have
- 7:48, say, FN FAL rifles and an M240
- 7:51machine gun in service, then
- 7:54>> in principle, it is comparable, but you
- 7:56understand that
- 7:57>> Well, you understand, you have a very
- 7:59heavy rifle and a very heavy machine
- 8:01gun. For the Soviet Union, for the
- 8:04Soviet army, there were two ways out.
- 8:08Either make a normal machine gun,
- 8:12weighing about 8-9 kg, with a milled
- 8:16receiver.
- 8:18>> Uh-huh.
- 8:18>> With all the features, but then you
- 8:20would have had to feed all the soldiers
- 8:22who served there. That is very
- 8:24expensive. Well, practically impossible
- 8:26. I am not joking right now, Dim.
- 8:28It’s just that, yes, you had to feed
- 8:30them so that a person could actually
- 8:33carry it, because the fighters weren't
- 8:36as buff as the ones running around in
- 8:38kit now. Well,
- 8:41>> and they still say it is a bit heavy.
- 8:43Still a bit heavy.
- 8:44>> Well, a bit heavy. A bit heavy. Just a
- 8:47bit heavy. There. Uh, that is why these
- 8:50models were adopted. Listen, I get the
- 8:53impression that they aren't even being
- 8:55drafted, it seems like you’re cloning
- 8:57them there by the trio. You hit the
- 8:59nail on the head. And I was just going
- 9:01to mention it, yeah, it really feels
- 9:03like you're cloning them there.
- 9:05>> Well, good fodder. Yeah. Well, ac...
- 9:10well, we have very different people in
- 9:13terms of size, but, uh, the point is...
- 9:15well, it’s clear that people nowadays
- 9:17are more physically developed and
- 9:19well-fed. It’s clear that, for the
- 9:22most part, our stormtroopers and
- 9:24infantry have a level of physical
- 9:25training that, well, God willing,
- 9:27everyone would have. But this assault
- 9:30machine gun is 6.7 kg, right, so,
- 9:33>> Yes, yes, 6.7. That is just really cool
- 9:36. Awesome. Right now, that means that
- 9:39when you’re heading to position with
- 9:41it, You can carry a kilo more food, a
- 9:43kilo more water, and a kilo more ammo.
- 9:46>> Ah, well
- 9:48>> that’s what, let’s say, I called
- 9:50the Pokemon,
- 9:51>> right?
- 9:51>> It’s a cut barrel, modified stock,
- 9:53relocated gas block, the piston is
- 9:56literally shortened, yes, and the
- 9:58weight of this machine gun is now 6.7
- 10:00without ammo. And, again, I am not a
- 10:03machine gunner. The only thing I
- 10:06didn’t like about it—but this is
- 10:08purely my impression and shouldn’t be
- 10:10taken as a negative characteristic—is
- 10:12that I personally found it
- 10:13uncomfortable to shoot, because due to
- 10:15its lightness, due to the reduced
- 10:16weight, it kicked a bit. Once again,
- 10:19this is solely because I’m not used
- 10:21to it. It’s not a flaw, it’s, well,
- 10:23just a feature. The people who work
- 10:26with it constantly, I’m sure, are
- 10:27very glad it exists. I know one such
- 10:31guy who says, "Fire."
- 10:33>> Uh-huh. So, uh, besides, well, yeah,
- 10:37let me look at it. That's the barrel.
- 10:42Actually, this is a former PKT barrel
- 10:44too. It’s already a bit, yeah,
- 10:48>> if it had the original PKM barrel, it
- 10:51would be even lighter. They weigh next
- 10:53to nothing. Subscribed.
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- 11:05personal Instagram?
- 11:06>> I don’t.
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- 11:10subscribe. For any question you have,
- 11:11we will give our answer. We have a
- 11:13machine gun, and you don’t. Why would
- 11:15someone with a machine gun need
- 11:16Instagram? A machine gun, right? And
- 11:18not just one. Van, we skipped ahead.
- 11:20Can we go back to the RPD? We have two
- 11:23of them here. Let’s set this one
- 11:25aside. So that
- 11:26>> and these two RPDs.
- 11:28>> Uh-huh. So,
- 11:31>> this one I weighed, how much did I
- 11:33write, six—also 6.7. Yes. Yes.
- 11:36>> A standard-issue RPD weighs 7.3 or 7.4
- 11:39kilograms, as far as I remember. This
- 11:42one, modified by Uncle Van’s workshop
- 11:44, is 6.7.
- 11:46>> Yes.
- 11:47>> Tell me, please, what is your
- 11:49experience working with the RPD? Ah, at
- 11:53that time, as I understand it, it was
- 11:56truly revolutionary because of its use
- 11:58of the intermediate 7.62 x 39 cartridge
- 12:01in a belt-fed design. It was a
- 12:04breakthrough. How is it now? Is it
- 12:06needed or not?
- 12:07>> Well, right now we’ve ended up with a
- 12:09very interesting story, Dima, and to my
- 12:11great regret, it’s not just very
- 12:13interesting, it’s also very sad. And
- 12:16it consists of the fact that at the
- 12:19moment there are virtually no Western
- 12:26models comparable in reliability and
- 12:31weight to the PKM or RPD machine guns,
- 12:35except for the 249. And it has to be a
- 12:43249 made in the United, yes, in the
- 12:45United States of America, because
- 12:48everything else comes in such a quality
- 12:51that, well, you had this show about
- 12:55>> the M249,
- 12:56>> we had a case with the M249. Well, we
- 12:59have guys fighting, the "Shkval" unit,
- 13:01they fight excellently, no questions
- 13:02there. And these Shkval guys, they are,
- 13:06you know, they are honest in their own
- 13:07way, very sincere. I mean, they look at
- 13:11life quite simply. They went out with
- 13:14the M249s, it jammed once, it jammed
- 13:16twice, they threw them the hell away
- 13:18and took [others]. Well, and then they
- 13:22got some. Well, we didn't have RPDs,
- 13:26baby, just the "Pokemon."
- 13:28>> Their commander issued them, they went
- 13:30on a storming mission once, twice. Well
- 13:32, he comes and says, "Hand over the
- 13:33machine guns, other guys are going now.
- 13:35" They say, "No, we won’t hand them
- 13:36over." I say, "What do you mean, you
- 13:37won’t hand them over?" Yes. Just like
- 13:39that, we won't hand them over, that's
- 13:40it. Damn it, these are our machine guns
- 13:41, we take them on storming missions.
- 13:43You need a machine gunner for the
- 13:44assault, I’ll go. But I’m not
- 13:46giving this machine gun to anyone.
- 13:47>> Well, that speaks volumes,
- 13:48>> yes, because, well, yeah, the 249 is
- 13:53good. Also, just no questions about it.
- 13:57If it is manufactured in the United
- 13:59States of America, it’s an excellent
- 14:02machine gun, and the concept is right,
- 14:04meaning the dual-feed system with the
- 14:06option for magazines; the only drawback
- 14:09is that when you storm enemy positions
- 14:11and finish the assault, unfortunately,
- 14:14there is no 249 ammunition at those
- 14:16positions. Right. And for the PKM,
- 14:19usually at these,
- 14:20>> well, about the RPD, I don't know, by
- 14:21the way,
- 14:22>> they don't use 7.62 x 39, to my great
- 14:25surprise, practically at all. Right.
- 14:31Although, well, yes, it's a classic,
- 14:34there are fans of this caliber. So, for
- 14:39infantry sitting in defensive positions
- 14:41or elsewhere where there is high
- 14:43ammunition consumption. That is where a
- 14:48full-fledged M240 or a full-fledged PKM
- 14:51is, of course, better suited for
- 14:52assault operations or those actions
- 14:55that are very common now. These are the
- 14:58so-called search-and-assault operations
- 15:00, meaning clearing the near rear. Where
- 15:03engagements are quite short and quite
- 15:06intense, once or twice. So, why the RPD
- 15:11? You asked why the RPD. Well, because
- 15:14PKMs don't just lie around on the road.
- 15:16Right. But RPDs do lie around.
- 15:18>> RPDs are in the warehouses.
- 15:22>> I'll tell you now how they are in the
- 15:23warehouses. RPDs are in storage, but
- 15:25why are they used so little? Because,
- 15:27first of all, the belts,
- 15:29>> well, they say there is little ammo.
- 15:33>> Uh, both ammo and belts for them are
- 15:36available. All the machine guns in the
- 15:39warehouses are more or less in good
- 15:41technical condition. The very design of
- 15:45this machine gun suggests that it is
- 15:48impossible to kill it just by shooting.
- 15:52Why? Because it is so redundant in
- 15:55strength relative to the power of the
- 15:57cartridge it is designed for.
- 16:00>> I mean, during Soviet rule, the
- 16:03coefficient was usually 1.4 for
- 16:07reliability. Here, it is built in and
- 16:10over-built. So, this machine gun,
- 16:14relative to the ammunition it is
- 16:17designed for, is structurally redundant
- 16:20by many times.
- 16:22>> Why are they used so little? I mean,
- 16:24the RPD is used very, very little. Then
- 16:27tell me, why are they used so little?
- 16:29>> Listen, that story has always surprised
- 16:31me. Why? Because, well, they appeared
- 16:35situationally in 2014 and disappeared
- 16:39again. Before the start of the
- 16:44full-scale war, when Degtyaryovs were
- 16:46issued, they usually issued Maxims,
- 16:49>> but RPDs were not issued on a mass
- 16:51scale. These machine guns always seem
- 16:55to be in the shadows. In fact, when the
- 16:58issue arose, well, during a period of
- 17:01quite intense combat operations for us,
- 17:03there was a constant shortage of
- 17:06machine guns. You just don't have
- 17:07enough machine guns. In essence, if you
- 17:10have a company carrying out, well,
- 17:12tasks like assault or search-and-strike
- 17:15operations, you should count on having
- 17:17at least 10 machine guns per company.
- 17:21And you need these 10 machine guns at
- 17:24any given moment; if the situation
- 17:26changes, you should have a unit where,
- 17:28well, a few fighters, including a
- 17:30machine gunner, are ready to go at any
- 17:32time to do something useful. So,
- 17:35accordingly, his machine gun must be
- 17:37fully combat-ready and equipped, right?
- 17:41>> And it's like it all started with the
- 17:47fact that we actually first developed
- 17:49not a PKM modernization program, but a
- 17:51PKT modernization program. We have both
- 17:58PKMs and PKTs in this form factor.
- 18:02>> Uh-huh. Specifically, this one has a
- 18:06PKT barrel,
- 18:08>> just with the gas block and front sight
- 18:11moved over from a destroyed, unusable
- 18:14barrel. And for the PKT, we ordered and
- 18:17made a monoblock. Meaning, we had the
- 18:21gas block combined with the sight post.
- 18:25Here. Then, the mechanical sights were
- 18:30replaced with a Picatinny rail with a
- 18:32slot for 100 meters. Yes, yes, yes.
- 18:35>> On a bracket.
- 18:36>> No, no, no. Right here, where the
- 18:39mechanical sight is, the PKT just has a
- 18:42plug.
- 18:43>> And on this plug, on a small pedestal,
- 18:46we mounted a Picatinny rail, designed
- 18:49with a longitudinal slot. Well, you
- 18:51don't have that here. I don't. Uh, so
- 18:54you could shoot at 100 meters. Well,
- 18:58according to the technical, well,
- 19:00technical requirements, you must have
- 19:03mechanical sighting devices on the
- 19:05machine gun anyway. So, by all means,
- 19:09we kind of cleverly bypassed this
- 19:11requirement. We calculated the position
- 19:14of the Picatinny rail. It was mounted
- 19:17on a bracket just like this one. Like
- 19:19here. It's screwed on here.
- 19:20>> Wait, this is welded. And welded just
- 19:23in case.
- 19:25>> It’s the army, after all. So they
- 19:27screwed it on and welded it too. Great,
- 19:29well done. A design of this type. A
- 19:34slot of a certain width and depth was
- 19:36made, and at 100 meters,
- 19:39>> it is zeroed.
- 19:39>> Zeroed using this slot. That's it.
- 19:43Furthermore, thank God, we are doing
- 19:45well with optical and electronic
- 19:47sighting devices. The guys install
- 19:51either a red dot sight or an Archer
- 19:55thermal imager. Yes. Well, the Archer
- 19:58is definitely the premium option. Well,
- 20:00with the Archer, there are no questions
- 20:01. So, this is kind of the pinnacle.
- 20:05There. But in principle, back in '22,
- 20:08there were trophy PKTs, there were just
- 20:11, well, tens and hundreds of them. Uh,
- 20:15we, uh, I was recently looking, well,
- 20:18scrolling through my feed, we issued
- 20:20the first converted PKT in '22 in the
- 20:23first days of March already. Meaning
- 20:28>> in 20 what?
- 20:29>> In '22,
- 20:30>> at the beginning of March,
- 20:32>> yes, already at the beginning of March.
- 20:36So we managed to mobilize, gather,
- 20:38assemble a company. I was the first
- 20:41sergeant of the company. Uh, set up a
- 20:44small arms workshop. And trophies
- 20:47started coming in immediately, and we
- 20:49started the conversion right away
- 20:51because there weren't enough machine
- 20:53guns then. Well, and back then, it's
- 20:56clear it wasn't that beautiful.
- 20:58>> Well
- 20:59>> we just cut the barrel to an acceptable
- 21:03size, put on a Kalashnikov stock. I
- 21:08quickly came up with some kind of
- 21:10trigger group back then. I still come
- 21:12across those machine guns, like, and I
- 21:14see them in photos. We made a lot of
- 21:15them back then. There. And at that time
- 21:18, it was the solution. And the second
- 21:20time, we approached it more responsibly
- 21:22, that is, with milling. Well, my
- 21:24workshop is a little better now than in
- 21:262022. Well, significantly better. And
- 21:29more people too,
- 21:31>> a lot more. So we made it in the same
- 21:34PKT form factor, that is, the same
- 21:37length, it's a little heavier because
- 21:40the receiver is a bit denser,
- 21:43>> the receiver,
- 21:44>> but everything else, like the grip, the
- 21:46guard, and the same type of stock. I
- 21:49mean, the stock actually migrated from
- 21:51the PKT here, because, well, how do you
- 21:53put a stock on a PKT, where do you get
- 21:55one? Well, so we took it, yes, and put
- 21:58it on.
- 21:59>> A telescopic one. That's how it turned
- 22:01out. There. And accordingly, like back
- 22:11then
- 22:12>> a question, not for the video, but
- 22:14you'll tell me later how you used the
- 22:17AK trigger group.
- 22:19>> No, we didn't take the stock from an AK
- 22:21, but this trigger group here
- 22:23>> we reworked ourselves. We reworked the
- 22:26standard one.
- 22:27>> No, no, the stock and grip we put on
- 22:29were from a Kalash. Well, there were
- 22:31different variants. So the first batch,
- 22:34seven or eight machine guns, we welded
- 22:36handles from square tubing, made a
- 22:38plunger trigger. So that whole back
- 22:42part of the PKT remained. And these PKs
- 22:45went to Moshchun, they went into battle
- 22:48. Well, and not just to Moshchun. There
- 22:52.
- 22:52>> And is this conversion a custom one-off
- 22:56piece? Or is it a working model? It
- 22:59goes like this. It's not mass-produced.
- 23:03So we made a project, meaning, the
- 23:07point of this project was
- 23:11>> we issued a very large batch of
- 23:12converted PKMs and PKTs back then; well
- 23:14, we practically collected everything
- 23:16we possibly could. There. Well, trophy
- 23:20ones. There.
- 23:21>> But the need, well, it didn't decrease.
- 23:26And my friend, the brigade commander of
- 23:28the 3rd Assault Brigade, gave me a task
- 23:30back when I was still serving in the
- 23:32Third. I was in the 3rd Separate
- 23:35Assault Brigade commanding the missile
- 23:37and artillery armament repair company.
- 23:39He set the task just like that. There
- 23:41are machine guns, this is a machine gun
- 23:42. There is a machine gun. There is
- 23:44everything. So, take the RPD and make
- 23:47it, you know, an assault variant, the
- 23:49way you know how. That’s it. And we
- 23:53did it, well, we did it well,
- 23:56test-fired it, everything was good, but
- 23:59because the converted PKMs and PKTs
- 24:02were so well received by the fighters
- 24:05of the brigade, the 3rd Assault, and
- 24:08other brigades that joined the corps.
- 24:13Well, plus certain events. Accordingly,
- 24:17the flow of trophy machine guns hasn't
- 24:19gone anywhere. People realized they
- 24:20needed to take them. Carry them out.
- 24:22It’s heavy to carry, but it’s no
- 24:24big deal, yeah. But this conversion of
- 24:28PKMs and PKTs is a serial process for
- 24:31us that has been going on for over a
- 24:34year and hasn’t stopped for a second.
- 24:39>> So, even for you, the RPD is still not
- 24:40a mass-produced machine gun?
- 24:42>> No, our RPD is not a mass-produced
- 24:43machine gun. It’s just a beautiful, I
- 24:47made a beautiful project to soothe my
- 24:49ego, and, like, the handguard is
- 24:51detachable. You know what that reminded
- 24:53me of? It’s like those Turkish
- 24:55shotguns, you know, when there’s a
- 24:57fake Your commentator who wrote that I
- 25:03copied it from a Beretta was right,
- 25:06after all. This specific idea came to
- 25:12me after we received the Berettas. I
- 25:14was playing around with it, shooting it
- 25:16, running around with it. And I really
- 25:18liked it. See,
- 25:21>> you know, Italians are guys who take
- 25:23any technical solution and bring it to
- 25:26some kind of absolute. Yes. And I liked
- 25:30so much how they solved the issue of
- 25:31mounting the barrel to the receiver,
- 25:33the mounting, and the whole
- 25:35assembly-disassembly of the gas system.
- 25:37Well, I couldn't just walk past it. I,
- 25:39well, I really liked it. I made it, I,
- 25:42of course, simplified it, meaning I
- 25:46used a spring-loaded barrel tube lock
- 25:51instead of theirs. There. But
- 25:54nevertheless, and again, in principle,
- 25:56the main problem with the Degtyaryov
- 25:59machine gun is this extremely poorly
- 26:01designed assembly,
- 26:03>> which gets clogged.
- 26:05>> Which gets clogged, which
- 26:07>> Yeah, screw it. Well,
- 26:09>> they modified it several times, so
- 26:12>> and as far as I remember, by the way,
- 26:14they were never able to make it work
- 26:15properly.
- 26:15>> No, they couldn't do anything with that
- 26:18whole story. And It turned out that,
- 26:23well, in real combat conditions, if you
- 26:25use the RPD in the form it stands here,
- 26:28I don't know how they fought with it in
- 26:31Vietnam, but...You've fired your rounds
- 26:34, and you have no opportunity to
- 26:36service the weapon. Well, you're there
- 26:38for two or three days in combat,
- 26:40constantly firing, especially with
- 26:42humidity or something else. This whole
- 26:45thing just seizes up completely, and
- 26:47that's it. Meaning, your piston remains
- 26:51, yes, in the extreme position. So, the
- 26:55only option here is to constantly carry
- 26:58the machine gun cocked. So that, well,
- 27:00like this, like this, so that your
- 27:03piston isn't sitting in the gas block
- 27:07assembly. But it’s still sitting in
- 27:09the tube anyway. So it won't rust here,
- 27:12but it will rust there. And it turns
- 27:15out that it’s impossible to clean it.
- 27:19So that is its main drawback. And then,
- 27:22your bolt is stuck in the forward
- 27:24position, and you need to unjam it
- 27:27somehow. And we unjam it using one
- 27:30well-known method: hitting the handle
- 27:32with the stock. That's it. And that's
- 27:34where the whole story ends.
- 27:35>> Well, by the way, this problem also
- 27:37exists with the PKM, when they unjam it
- 27:39with a strike to the handle.
- 27:40>> Well, yes. Uh,
- 27:42>> don't do that. Don't do that, because,
- 27:45well, it’s unrealistic; now, like,
- 27:47there's a critical part, which is the
- 27:50bolt charging handle on the PKM. It’s
- 27:53clear that new, fairly high-quality
- 27:56ones are being produced, which are much
- 27:59more reliable than the originals,
- 28:02because, well, the original part is
- 28:05actually a bit weakened. There. But
- 28:09it's still a fairly critical point.
- 28:14>> Why am I comparing this not to a
- 28:16Beretta, but to a Turkish shotgun?
- 28:19Because the vast majority of military
- 28:21personnel currently using a Turkish
- 28:24shotgun for anti-drone work will
- 28:26recognize exactly this,
- 28:28>> right?
- 28:29>> Yes. When you unscrew the muzzle brake,
- 28:31>> right? on the BTS 12 or Sierra,
- 28:36>> yes, you take it off. Here we have, yes
- 28:39, a washer, op,
- 28:42>> which you shouldn't lose, yes,
- 28:44>> and the handguard comes off.
- 28:46>> That's all,
- 28:47>> damn, the gas block is just elegantly
- 28:49done. We had the exact same gas block
- 28:54on our converted PKTs. So, I
- 28:57essentially took it in a ready-made
- 28:59form factor, only changed the mounting
- 29:01dimensions and all that. But otherwise,
- 29:04in principle, it's our standard product
- 29:06.
- 29:06>> Vika, get a more detailed shot.
- 29:09>> Let's detach it.
- 29:13>> We, yes, take the gas block off the
- 29:16barrel together with the integrated
- 29:18front sight. The gas block is
- 29:20integrated into the front sight.
- 29:21>> Yes,
- 29:22>> it's all beautiful, all elegant. Yes,
- 29:23it's all well made.
- 29:25>> Oh. There. And, like, if we go back to
- 29:29the RPD question,
- 29:30>> yeah,
- 29:33>> based on the results of the Vietnam War
- 29:35, certain conclusions were drawn.
- 29:42Moreover, while the American side drew
- 29:45the correct conclusions, the Soviet
- 29:47side drew the wrong ones. That is, the
- 29:50Soviet side concluded that we needed a
- 29:52PKM. Well yes, that's actually correct
- 29:56in a way, but the Americans realized
- 29:58they needed a proper belt-fed machine
- 30:01gun in an intermediate caliber, and
- 30:03they made the M249. That's it. And when
- 30:09, well, this continues, well, you have
- 30:12to understand that, well, if you look a
- 30:15bit deeper into this question, neither
- 30:18in the Soviet nor in Tsarist Russia,
- 30:20nor in Soviet Russia, was there a
- 30:23proper machine gun until the PKM, in
- 30:25principle. That is, the curse of that
- 30:297.62 x 54 R cartridge hung over them.
- 30:34>> And they sort of stepped out of that
- 30:36paradigm once, creating a normal
- 30:38machine gun with direct cartridge feed
- 30:40for a rimless round. So, I mean, they
- 30:43did everything right once. Except for
- 30:45the gas block.
- 30:46>> Well, the MG one. No,
- 30:47>> no. Yes, of course, this is the upper
- 30:49part of the MG. The internals are
- 30:53DP-style, essentially the same story.
- 30:56There. But the Americans, they went
- 31:01further; they saw the advantage of such
- 31:03a machine gun. Belt-fed for an
- 31:04intermediate cartridge. They make the
- 31:07M249, and the Soviets make the RPK.
- 31:11>> Ah, right, the RPK.
- 31:13>> They make the RPK instead of taking a
- 31:15ready-made machine gun where, in fact,
- 31:17you just need to replace the barrel.
- 31:22It's a 2-second job. It changes here,
- 31:25>> right? Here,
- 31:26>> right?
- 31:27>> How?
- 31:28>> So, how, how? You just take it,
- 31:31>> it's screwed in, isn't it?
- 31:32>> Well, just unscrew it.
- 31:33>> No, well, not in 2 seconds.
- 31:35>> Well, okay, for me, everything is a 2-
- 31:37second job. No, yeah. Well, meaning
- 31:39there is no problem unscrewing the
- 31:41barrel here. Meaning you punch it out,
- 31:43it's fixed with this little pin, you
- 31:44punch out the little pin, and turn the
- 31:46barrel. The point is that these machine
- 31:48guns—so, when I started this
- 31:50modernization, I had the idea to make
- 31:53it in .223 caliber after all. Uh-huh.
- 31:56>> So, uh, why? Because it is very, very,
- 32:01very simple. Meaning to make it .223
- 32:05caliber, you need to replace this
- 32:07little part here. I can't pop it off
- 32:12with my hands right now. It's sitting
- 32:14tight. Well, replace the feed tray, uh,
- 32:18replace the feed slide to match the
- 32:20pitch for the NATO belt.
- 32:23>> There. And replace the bolt body. Uh,
- 32:27>> so that it feeds,
- 32:28>> yeah, so that it feeds the NATO belt.
- 32:31Moreover, you can already abandon this
- 32:34reflector. It is an absolutely obsolete
- 32:36design.
- 32:37>> That is, switch to a normal reflector,
- 32:39a more modern one in the bolt face, and
- 32:42that's it. That is,
- 32:43>> can I get some footage from over here?
- 32:49So, once again, we definitely change
- 32:52and adjust the pitch for the belt.
- 32:55>> We have to change this part here. Well,
- 32:58it comes off along with the cover. You
- 33:01take off the cover, and you get the
- 33:02opportunity to remove the feed tray. It
- 33:04sits there tight. Uh-huh. There. We
- 33:07change this little rail to change the
- 33:09belt feed pitch.
- 33:10>> Well, we change the bolt body. I mean,
- 33:12everything else here is made in such a
- 33:15way that, honestly, it could even be
- 33:17converted to the 51mm cartridge. There
- 33:19is enough metal here for that. Well,
- 33:22look at the thickness. There.
- 33:25>> Ah, okay. Then the question is about
- 33:28the 51. Does it have enough clearance
- 33:32to feed it in there properly? The 51
- 33:35cartridge.
- 33:36>> Yes.
- 33:36>> Yes. You have your own margin.
- 33:38>> And here, oh,
- 33:39>> you have your own margin, so to speak.
- 33:41Uh-huh.
- 33:43>> Okay. Yes, well, it's possible, yes,
- 33:44for example.
- 33:45>> Well, it's not just possible, I
- 33:46measured everything.
- 33:47>> Ah, yes,
- 33:48>> yes. Okay.
- 33:49>> That's why this is the situation. There
- 33:53. And, well, I have spoken with several
- 33:56manufacturers in Ukraine who are
- 33:58currently designing their own machine
- 34:01gun. Well, several, I'll tell you. Yes.
- 34:05And
- 34:07>> yes, and it won't be a Heckler, not a
- 34:08Heckler&Koch. Well, they are trying
- 34:11>> to design their own, but it will be
- 34:13something very similar, as I understand
- 34:15it.
- 34:16>> They are designing it, but it's already
- 34:19clear that the Czechs tried to copy the
- 34:21249, and the Turks tried to copy it.
- 34:24Well, it's not working for them, yes,
- 34:27well, they can't manage it.
- 34:29>> This machine gun is technologically...
- 34:32well, a very interesting point came up
- 34:34with it. When they were developing it
- 34:38in '44-'45, all this milling—it’s a
- 34:41fully milled bolt, all that stuff—it
- 34:43was quite expensive, quite
- 34:45labor-intensive, yes.
- 34:47>> Uh-huh.
- 34:48>> That's why they switched
- 34:50>> to the PKM, yes, to stamping. But while
- 34:54they were switching and doing that
- 34:56stamping, people invented the CNC
- 34:59milling machine. There. And
- 35:02>> on a CNC machine, all this stuff...When
- 35:05I went and showed the guys, and took it
- 35:08apart, it's actually made in two setups
- 35:10. Meaning you just clamp this part, the
- 35:13blank, and there's a minimal set of
- 35:15cutters; I've even figured out which
- 35:17cutters are used to make it. It is
- 35:20perfect for production on a CNC machine
- 35:22, for a mill, it's just like that.
- 35:25>> And how much will its weight change,
- 35:26how much lighter can it be made now?
- 35:28Because, well, for me another argument
- 35:31not in favor of the RPD is that its
- 35:34weight is almost compatible with the
- 35:36standard weight and barrel length of
- 35:39the PKM, 7300, 7400, 100 grams here or
- 35:42there.
- 35:42>> Well, you know, you can't get it down
- 35:45to 5 kg, but there aren't really any
- 35:47machine guns at 5 kg anyway. Uh, that's
- 35:50the first question. The second question
- 35:52. We must fully understand, we are both
- 35:54familiar with the PZD machine gun,
- 35:57>> which, well, they made it, but it
- 36:00didn't really help it.
- 36:02>> So, uh, it's clear that the locking
- 36:04design won't allow for a lightweight
- 36:07alloy receiver, because the locking
- 36:09occurs within the receiver itself.
- 36:11>> Yeah. But, in principle, well, it would
- 36:14have been a very simple, very fast
- 36:16solution, actually. Well, like, well,
- 36:21it's really fast and simple.
- 36:23>> In short, do you think that this
- 36:24concept, it's still,
- 36:25>> well, this concept, you understand,
- 36:27right? They approached it, they did it
- 36:29a bit differently, but they started
- 36:31thinking about this concept after being
- 36:32introduced to this.
- 36:33>> Uh-huh.
- 36:34>> Yeah. And it happens that you see
- 36:36something new for yourself, and there
- 36:37are people who draw the right
- 36:38conclusion, there are people who draw
- 36:40the wrong conclusion. They drew the
- 36:41right conclusion. And the Soviets drew
- 36:45the wrong conclusion, so to speak, that
- 36:47is, they went into the cartridge
- 36:49concept.
- 36:50>> No, they went into the concept,
- 36:55essentially, an assault rifle with a
- 36:56heavy barrel, the RPK. That is, NATO
- 36:59also has this history, like, but it
- 37:01didn't take off for NATO, and it didn't
- 37:04take off for us either. That is, if you
- 37:06recall now, how many based on
- 37:09>> the AR-15 were there of such models,
- 37:11right? Well, in principle, and based on
- 37:14the FN FAL, based on anything,
- 37:16everywhere there is selective automatic
- 37:19fire, they tried to put a heavy barrel
- 37:22and bipod and get, uh, well, a
- 37:24imitation of a light machine gun. Well,
- 37:27it doesn't take off like that. That is,
- 37:28yes, this concept of belt-fed, backup
- 37:31magazine is amazing. It is amazing,
- 37:34because, well, like in the Wehrmacht,
- 37:36for example, we take an infantry squad,
- 37:39they have a general-purpose machine gun
- 37:41. Well, they carry the MG-42 around,
- 37:44and the whole fight, their entire
- 37:47tactic, they build around this machine
- 37:49gun. And essentially, even if you look
- 37:52at the photos, like, everything that is
- 37:54happening there, they have the machine
- 37:56gunner, the person who carries the
- 37:58tripod for him, and everyone else,
- 38:00their task is to carry ammo. That is,
- 38:03they loaded up and went somewhere. They
- 38:05know that when they arrive, they will
- 38:07solve any problem with that machine gun
- 38:08. The main thing is to have enough ammo
- 38:10. That's why the concept of having
- 38:14magazine feeding for the 249 exists:
- 38:16you arrive, you run out of belts, you
- 38:19take it, and you will still be firing
- 38:21accurately, faster, further. As far as
- 38:26I understand, they abandoned this and
- 38:28switched to the RPK because
- 38:29mechanization in the Soviet army
- 38:31increased, there were more vehicles,
- 38:33troops were dismounting from vehicles,
- 38:35and this machine gun was used
- 38:37specifically from vehicles. No, I'm
- 38:39mistaken. And therefore, well, like,
- 38:42there was no need for this machine gun.
- 38:44>> Well, look, you have
- 38:46>> The idea is that an 11-man squad should
- 38:49dismount from the vehicle. Yes. Now
- 38:53let's count. Well, motorized infantry.
- 38:56What do you have in this squad in terms
- 38:57of calibers? You have some guys with
- 39:00assault rifles, that is, either 7.62 or
- 39:045.45.
- 39:05>> In that same squad, you have an SVD,
- 39:09which is 7.62 x 54 R, but those have to
- 39:12be different 7.62 x 54 R rounds.
- 39:15Meaning, they have to be special rounds
- 39:17so that it hits anything at all.
- 39:18>> Well, you can shoot those too, it's not
- 39:20a big deal. And on top of that, you
- 39:22have a guy with a PKM. Who, against
- 39:26this backdrop, is just a person from a
- 39:27different area, because, well, he needs
- 39:29his own specific ammo. And, well, Dim,
- 39:33it was 2015, I think. I fought for a
- 39:36season as a machine gunner, two seasons
- 39:38. The summer of '14, well, on
- 39:42large-caliber ones, and the winter of
- 39:45'14-'15, we were near the DAP back then
- 39:49. Well, near the DAP. So yes, that was
- 39:53near the DAP. I fought, and I had two
- 39:56machine guns. I had a PKM, a PKMN to be
- 39:59precise, and I had an RPK. An RPK-74,
- 40:05factory-made, from storage, with a
- 40:09mount for optics and a PSO-1 sight, and
- 40:14a POSP 4x42 sight.
- 40:18>> Uh-huh.
- 40:19>> That's it. And later, I got a thermal
- 40:22imaging sight. A 50th something model
- 40:26already. Well, something inexpensive,
- 40:28something cheap. That's it. And so, we
- 40:31go out on a mission. You drag this ammo
- 40:36on yourself. You drag that ammo
- 40:38separately. You drag this ammo
- 40:39separately. Damn, and if, let's say,
- 40:42you can actually take 5.45, you take a
- 40:44box, and you have 100 rounds.
- 40:48>> Well,
- 40:49>> yes. And, well, 100 will be enough for
- 40:51something at least. But for the PKM,
- 40:53you took a box, well, 440 rounds. What
- 40:56next? And considering we were going out
- 41:00, there’s food, water, all that stuff
- 41:02, well, you’re carrying it yourself,
- 41:04well, great. I took the PKM, took 440
- 41:07rounds for it. I also have a
- 41:09hundred-round belt attached, sort of.
- 41:11And I took a 250-round box just in case
- 41:14. Well, we were in a positional fight
- 41:15there. Meaning, I wanted to be able to
- 41:17work quickly, and I left the
- 41:18hundred-rounder, because if some kind
- 41:19of action starts, I just won't be able
- 41:21to lift all that now. I mean, I'm in
- 41:23decent physical shape. But if you load
- 41:25all that onto me right now, I’ll just
- 41:26stay sitting where I am. That’s
- 41:29exactly why an intermediate caliber
- 41:31machine gun, in 5.45 or 5.56 with
- 41:33belt-fed capability, makes damn good
- 41:36sense. I mean, that is just what’s
- 41:39needed, damn it. They just don't exist.
- 41:42I mean, guys would happily take them if
- 41:44the PKM were a proper machine gun, or
- 41:46if we had plenty of
- 41:50>> M249s, people would gladly use them,
- 41:53and we wouldn't have to deal with all
- 41:56this circus.
- 41:59>> Everything. So, once again, this is
- 42:02good, but for us, it didn't really take
- 42:05off, because the need for it is such
- 42:08that this project is just listed as a
- 42:11reserve. So, like now there's a need
- 42:16again for well, for instance, there's
- 42:21this topic now, these mobile firing
- 42:23groups that don't target big Shaheds,
- 42:25but mobile groups that work on
- 42:28>> FVP drones. Uh, there are tracers for
- 42:32it, comfortable recoil. This part here
- 42:35is very simple to remove. You put a
- 42:37swivel mount here.
- 42:39>> That's it, the machine guns work, and
- 42:41the mobile group doesn't lose the belt
- 42:43like you would during an assault,
- 42:45walking through the brush and spilling
- 42:47it everywhere. That's it, just take it
- 42:50and shoot. You need to put a modern
- 42:53electronic sight on it. It takes two
- 42:56seconds to screw it on and grab it. And
- 42:59then, you're pretty much all set.
- 43:04Especially since these are, like, the
- 43:06night-vision ones. You can put one of
- 43:08those on here too. So, damn it,
- 43:10>> why is it sitting okay?
- 43:12>> Well, it sits fine, but you have to
- 43:15keep an eye on it. A machine gunner has
- 43:18to be constantly monitoring it anyway.
- 43:21It's better to peek in there every now
- 43:23and then, in short, to see what's
- 43:24actually happening inside. And you
- 43:26start jerking, I mean this thing.
- 43:28>> Yes.
- 43:29>> On the night version. Well look, you
- 43:31flipped it away, so you flipped it away
- 43:32.
- 43:32>> Yeah. I mean, there is a mount, and
- 43:35they even have these first-generation
- 43:38thermal, these night vision sights.
- 43:44They copied the German Vampire back
- 43:46then. Well, from the war era, with an
- 43:48illuminator. I mean, there's a lamp
- 43:50there. That's all total nonsense. You
- 43:52can, without too much trouble, just put
- 43:55a standard mount, a Kruk or whatever,
- 43:58on this rail. There. And mount any
- 44:01optics or optoelectronics on it.
- 44:03Everything works here, everything is
- 44:04good. I mean, please, it turns out that
- 44:07you can equip your mobile fire groups
- 44:09with an older machine gun that is no
- 44:11worse. You won't have any failures with
- 44:14it. Well, you won't. Technically, it
- 44:16will work perfectly for you. Your
- 44:19mobile fire groups have moments to
- 44:21catch their breath; they will maintain
- 44:23the gas system and figure it out, by
- 44:24and large. There. And the more modern
- 44:28machine guns issued to mobile groups,
- 44:30for example, can be given to assault
- 44:31troops. So in this context, you see,
- 44:34when you have many different machine
- 44:36guns, every machine gun has its own
- 44:38drawbacks. Well, if you have the
- 44:41necessary quantity and the ability to
- 44:44maneuver, you can slot them in
- 44:46somewhere. I mean, heavier ones for
- 44:50fixed positions, for instance, like the
- 44:52RPD, which has its own belt, or
- 44:54remember those Czech fifty-nines?
- 44:57>> No, I haven't seen that one.
- 44:59>> Haven't seen it yet?
- 45:00>> Alright. So, well, it's that Czech one
- 45:05that is cocked with a handle.
- 45:06>> Uh,
- 45:07>> the Czech fifty-nines. They also have
- 45:09an excellent mount. It even has the
- 45:11capability for anti-aircraft fire. The
- 45:12whole story. You have the ability to
- 45:15maneuver when you have a decent repair
- 45:19unit. Just like in the 3rd, like we
- 45:21have in the corps now.
- 45:23>> You can bring it there and say, "Make
- 45:24it how you know how." Yes.
- 45:26>> You can bring it in, set a technical
- 45:29requirement,
- 45:31>> not like "I need a stock from this firm
- 45:34here, a tube from that one." Technical
- 45:37requirements. Uh...it must fulfill this
- 45:40specific function for us right now. I
- 45:42need 10 machine guns that will do this.
- 45:45And for this function, we can adapt, in
- 45:47principle, anything. So it's clear that
- 45:49there are some requirements for
- 45:51anti-aircraft. And for assault, for
- 45:53example, those are different
- 45:54requirements. For anti-aircraft, for
- 45:55example, you don't need to cut this
- 45:57barrel like it's been cut. It will work
- 45:59as is. So, there is an opportunity when
- 46:01you have complete communication,
- 46:04starting from the brigade commander and
- 46:06in some cases even the corps commander,
- 46:09all of whom are very knowledgeable
- 46:12about weapons. Both Bot and Andrey
- 46:15Evgenyevich, they can, for example,
- 46:17pass this task down to my leadership;
- 46:19they know we will do it, and then we
- 46:21execute the project. So, it's quite
- 46:26fast. Everyone understands what we’re
- 46:30doing, so, kind of, for us, well, this
- 46:31whole thing is really taking off. In
- 46:34our brigade, in our corps. The corps
- 46:36has expanded now, other brigades have
- 46:38joined, everyone knows what to do, you
- 46:40know. But, mostly, of course, the king
- 46:43right now is this "Pokemon" here.
- 46:45>> Let’s compare this one and this 249.
- 46:48We’ll set this aside,
- 46:50>> yes, the sling.
- 46:51>> I’ve attached it. So we have the 249
- 46:55and the shortened one.
- 46:58>> Yes. Like this. Let's start comparing.
- 47:02So, first of all, yeah. Here we have
- 47:06the stocks folded. Well, you know, Dima
- 47:09, that
- 47:11>> the 249 is shorter, but it could be cut
- 47:14even shorter.
- 47:16>> But there’s no point in that.
- 47:17>> Well, let’s start with something. The
- 47:21actual barrel length. So, we’ll take
- 47:24out the 249. Yes,
- 47:26>> let's measure it. You understand, like
- 47:45>> this. Well, this one is even shorter.
- 47:50Like this,
- 47:51>> yeah. Let’s measure it. Vika.
- 47:59>> We’re measuring the rifled part with
- 48:01the chamber up to the muzzle brake.
- 48:05Okay, here it shows 30 that’s 14
- 48:13inches. A bit shorter, right?
- 48:17>> Measuring the "Pokemon." Same story, 18
- 48:23inches, a 4-inch difference actually in
- 48:26the rifled part.
- 48:29>> Well, the cartridges are completely
- 48:30different.
- 48:30>> Yes, different cartridges, well, for
- 48:33.30 caliber group cartridges, I believe
- 48:35that 16 inches is
- 48:39>> short.
- 48:40>> No, that’s the minimum possible, like
- 48:41, for example, the AR, there’s a 10-
- 48:43inch now.
- 48:44>> I don’t understand why it’s needed
- 48:46at all, even in combat, I’ve seen it,
- 48:48it's heavy. Just to hold it in your
- 48:51hands, understanding the power in it,
- 48:53yeah, but shooting it, I don't get why.
- 48:55>> I don't know,
- 48:57>> touched a nerve there.
- 48:58>> No, listen, about the nerve, I actually
- 49:00have one. I mean, not an army one,
- 49:02specifically, a civilian type.
- 49:05>> Okay, then never mind. No, well, when
- 49:07it's civilian, I’ve seen them. Cool.
- 49:09It looks, you know, kind of like a
- 49:10little boar. You understand that
- 49:12it’ll burst into the tree line and
- 49:13punch through anything you want. Damn,
- 49:15but it’s heavy.
- 49:16>> It’s heavy. It’s heavy.
- 49:18>> The barrel, damn, it's super heavy.
- 49:19Well, a heavy barrel in general. And it
- 49:21is heavy.
- 49:22>> Are you referring specifically to the
- 49:2416-inch M4 or the 20-inch one?
- 49:26>> No, the 16-inch.
- 49:28>> Well, the AR, but again, still, you
- 49:31know, we go back to the fact that we
- 49:33have, please, the SVD over there, which
- 49:36is light. Well,
- 49:38>> that’s it. And on that, the questions
- 49:39are closed, it’s useless.
- 49:40>> For a civilian, I understand why it’s
- 49:42cool. It’s really cool. Look, uh,
- 49:45again, we return to where we started
- 49:47the conversation: you are faced with a
- 49:49choice, either feed the fighter, or
- 49:51make a lightweight rifle. So we fed the
- 49:55fighter, we give him a proper rifle
- 49:58with a thick, good barrel that shoots
- 50:00very accurately. His underfed opponent
- 50:03comes along with an SVD. Well, that’s
- 50:06it, the conversation can basically end
- 50:08there. With a rifle that lacks decent
- 50:10target ammunition. With a rifle that—
- 50:14well, today is Monday,
- 50:16>> right?
- 50:17>> Well, I was shooting an SVD last week.
- 50:20>> It’s just a nightmare that I try to
- 50:21forget every time. I mean, you have to
- 50:25zero the SVD, then you go back, and I,
- 50:27for example, have a .30-06 bolt-action
- 50:29rifle as a personal weapon.
- 50:32>> Uh-huh.
- 50:33>> It has a recoil pad. Well, it's a good
- 50:36rifle. And the recoil on it, right?
- 50:41It's strong, but it's, you know,
- 50:43tolerable, thanks to the fact that,
- 50:46well, at least the butt plate is made
- 50:48properly. On the SVD, there’s this
- 50:51[ __ ] crutch bolted on, which just
- 50:53leaves a piece of meat on your shoulder
- 50:55instead of a shoulder. And the second
- 50:58point is that the theme of these long,
- 51:01thin barrels,
- 51:02>> it is, well, it's a path to nowhere,
- 51:05really.
- 51:06>> And that’s why, in a way, the AR
- 51:08makes sense. So.
- 51:10>> A slight digression, if I may.
- 51:13>> The AR, well, I really like both the 15
- 51:17and the 10. So.
- 51:20>> Let's return to these two machine guns.
- 51:225.56 and 7.62. Here, it’s clear that
- 51:27you carry more ammo with you.
- 51:29>> Ammo, yes.
- 51:31>> And it's clear that you can find spare
- 51:32ammo in the enemy's trenches.
- 51:35>> Yes. And it lays down more power.
- 51:38>> It definitely lays down more power.
- 51:41Next, the possibility of alternative
- 51:44feeding. Yes, let's not forget,
- 51:48>> that there is a magazine option.
- 51:51>> But, as I understand, in the newest
- 51:52versions, the magazine...
- 51:55>> In the base version, there was an
- 51:56option with a mag well and without one,
- 51:59the 249, and maybe it was called the
- 52:01248, something like that. So they made
- 52:03it that way from the base model, both
- 52:05like this and like that.
- 52:07>> Moving on, specifically on this PKM,
- 52:10there’s a mount for optics, but we
- 52:12just install it without a second
- 52:14thought, we just bolt it on. There are
- 52:18mounts, well, both Kruk ones, and
- 52:25>> captured Zenit ones,
- 52:26>> Zenit ones, and Lviv ones. Nazarov has
- 52:30been making them since 2012. So you put
- 52:33a mount like that on and you just
- 52:34forget about the whole story. So it’s
- 52:37not really a problem. Yeah. What else?
- 52:43Here, it's a disintegrating belt.
- 52:45>> Yeah. And here, let's get a bit more
- 52:46detail.
- 52:47>> And here, let's get more detail. Here
- 52:48you have a disintegrating belt. Here
- 52:50you either have a 25-round belt, which
- 52:54you will never find again in that tree
- 52:58line. Or you make yourself a belt, say,
- 53:0150 or 100 rounds. And with that belt,
- 53:03you snag every tripwire in the same
- 53:05tree line.
- 53:05>> This is one of the main problems they
- 53:08mention,
- 53:09>> that I’m sick of looking for the belt
- 53:11later,
- 53:12>> well,
- 53:12>> and collecting it.
- 53:15>> You see, friend, the main problem is
- 53:17when a huge disaster happens to you,
- 53:19and you literally snag something with
- 53:21this belt, like, you snag a tripwire,
- 53:26and that’s the end of your military
- 53:29career. Tangled up in it,
- 53:30>> yes. So, this whole thing, frankly,
- 53:33screw the belt, you'll never find it
- 53:36anywhere anyway.
- 53:37>> They say there is already a
- 53:38disintegrating belt for
- 53:39>> that disintegrating belt has existed
- 53:40since 2022.
- 53:41>> Yes, but it costs a pretty penny.
- 53:43>> Well, it costs, yes, it costs. And what
- 53:45doesn't cost money now?
- 53:46>> Well,
- 53:47>> the problem is simply that it isn't
- 53:49being purchased. A disintegrating belt
- 53:52appeared for 7.62 x 39. That was in the
- 53:55early 30s for the ShKAS machine gun.
- 53:58There you go. And they could have
- 54:01adapted it 300 times to do the same
- 54:04trick for the PKM, like the guys did.
- 54:08Well, the plastic belt is essentially a
- 54:10ShKAS belt.
- 54:10>> Well, yeah.
- 54:11>> And there’s the Finnish
- 54:12disintegrating one, too. Right. And no
- 54:15need to worry, but they went a slightly
- 54:17different path. Sticking with this
- 54:21reusable belt, which everyone else has
- 54:23already abandoned. Nobody uses that
- 54:24anymore. So, we continue to mess around
- 54:29with this whole thing. Again, in 5.45,
- 54:31well, in 5.56, this problem is
- 54:34essentially non-existent. I mean, you
- 54:37load up, you fire, and that’s it.
- 54:40>> Let’s put it this way. Tell me,
- 54:42please, if you had the choice, let’s
- 54:44say command comes and says, "Hey, Uncle
- 54:46Van, we have an option. We can get
- 54:501,500 PKMs or 1,500 of these. And you
- 54:58have to decide between PKMs and these
- 55:00for the unit’s assault operations."
- 55:03>> Eh, I’d take 50/50 on that. Uh-huh.
- 55:07>> Then explain why once again. To have
- 55:10interchangeability, to have
- 55:11maneuverability, right, for
- 55:13>> No, because I'm the one who will have
- 55:15to decide. I'll say, give me, well, why
- 55:18I'd take half of these and half of
- 55:20those is because a bunch of fans of
- 55:23this machine gun will come running, and
- 55:25the other half will be fans of that
- 55:27machine gun. Yes. And they’ll ask,
- 55:31why didn’t you take the 249? Or why
- 55:33didn’t you take the PKM? And this way
- 55:34, you know, like in that joke, one foot
- 55:36in a sock, the other in a foot wrap.
- 55:37I’ll say, I took everything 50/50.
- 55:41Well, that’s why 7. I mean, a machine
- 55:44gun in the .30 caliber group makes
- 55:46sense, and a machine gun in the .223
- 55:49group—well, the 200 caliber group—
- 55:51also makes sense. They have their own
- 55:54pros and their own cons. It's clear
- 55:57that here you have more penetration,
- 55:58while there you are carrying more ammo.
- 56:01So, uh, in terms of weight, you can get
- 56:05them to be identical. And in terms of
- 56:06dimensions, too.
- 56:07>> Yes, yes, yes. Six, 6.7, exactly, yeah,
- 56:10it turned out nicely.
- 56:11>> You can bring it all together. Uh,
- 56:12there is excessive recoil. We also need
- 56:15to see what gas setting you were
- 56:16working with. You didn't mess with the
- 56:17gas regulator, I assume.
- 56:18>> No, no, didn’t close the gas block.
- 56:21Eh, ugh, good grief. Well, on two, on
- 56:24two ports. Both ports were open.
- 56:27>> They set it to one.
- 56:29>> Listen, I had the opening on this side
- 56:31and the opening on that side both open.
- 56:33Yes, yes, yes, yes.
- 56:35>> It is still light, though. It seems to
- 56:38me that part of the cartridge’s
- 56:39recoil energy is absorbed by its weight
- 56:41. Dim, look, it’s not the machine gun
- 56:44that’s light, it’s you who are
- 56:46light.
- 56:48>> Thanks.
- 56:49>> You're welcome.
- 56:51>> You know, like they say, the guy is
- 56:52sharp, of course, but he’s light.
- 56:54That’s just like you. That’s why
- 56:56there’s such a story with these
- 56:57machine guns. Well, and discussing this
- 57:01one, I don’t know, let’s just not
- 57:03discuss it, it’s a respected
- 57:05person’s machine gun.
- 57:07>> Yeah, yeah, yeah. And this is his, too.
- 57:10I know, only this one he built himself,
- 57:12well, his own vision. Right. And this
- 57:16is what the Russians sort of tried to
- 57:21portray. You gave me your arguments,
- 57:25and I completely agree. If you could
- 57:27explain to the camera why this is
- 57:29garbage. And not quite right. Not why
- 57:31it’s garbage, but why it doesn't work
- 57:33the way it’s advertised. Like, it
- 57:35doesn't work that effectively. Uh, well
- 57:38, why? Well,
- 57:41>> it is believed that injection—sure,
- 57:43you can—it is believed that injection
- 57:45cools the barrel.
- 57:46>> Ejection.
- 57:47>> Well, fine.
- 57:48>> Injection is intake. But injection,
- 57:51ejection, yes, I agree, that through
- 57:53ejection we—well, specifically this
- 57:55gas piston assembly, well, the gas unit
- 57:57, yes, the gas engine—we cool it, and
- 58:00in principle, it doesn't need to be
- 58:02changed. Well, that’s, in fact, what
- 58:04they do. They don't issue them. A
- 58:06second barrel for the Pecheneg is not
- 58:09issued. Which is why good barrels for
- 58:11it are a nightmare, right?
- 58:14>> Tell us why, in your opinion, this
- 58:16isn't exactly a sound solution. By the
- 58:18way, do you know that Mikhail
- 58:20Timofeyevich was also against this?
- 58:25>> Listen, well, Mikhail Timofeyevich, by
- 58:26that point, well, God willing, he could
- 58:28distinguish porridge from non-porridge,
- 58:33let’s call it that. Okay. Then,
- 58:34arguments against the Pecheneg, the
- 58:36Pecheneg barrel.
- 58:37>> Well, arguments against the Pecheneg
- 58:39barrel. First, this barrel is not
- 58:42interchangeable. It is removable,
- 58:45>> yes, but there is only one.
- 58:47>> But these are very different things.
- 58:48Like on the DP-27. The barrel there is
- 58:52>> removable, but it is not
- 58:53interchangeable. Now on the PKM, the
- 58:55barrel is, well, quick-detachable and
- 58:57interchangeable. What on earth were
- 59:03they thinking when they attached the
- 59:05bipod here? I mean, well, science
- 59:08doesn’t know. I mean, look, please,
- 59:11you have a standard mounting point that
- 59:13allows you to standardize, well, you
- 59:15want to modernize the machine gun. You
- 59:18came up with a cool idea and shared it
- 59:20with people. We will now make a barrel
- 59:23with forced air cooling. We will, well,
- 59:25because people confuse injection,
- 59:27injection. We will call it a barrel
- 59:30with forced air cooling. Just take your
- 59:34tube, you have your bipod. Put the
- 59:39barrel with this feature here, and,
- 59:42well, and, well, finish it off. But
- 59:49they start getting deeper into this
- 59:51machine gun. They put all of this stuff
- 59:54here. The Pecheneg barrel is heavier
- 59:59than the PKM barrel.
- 1:00:01>> Well, which is logical,
- 1:00:02>> yes, it is heavier. In such a form
- 1:00:06factor, a machine gun cannot be adopted
- 1:00:08for service. Why? Because every
- 1:00:11subsequent machine gun adopted for
- 1:00:13service must be
- 1:00:15>> at least 10 grams lighter. You have to
- 1:00:19specify that this one weighs 6.7, and
- 1:00:22this one weighs 6.5. That’s it, they
- 1:00:25put a checkmark for 50 grams. Exactly.
- 1:00:27>> And for that, they made it thinner.
- 1:00:29>> And to do that, they make a thinner
- 1:00:32receiver and receiver cover. So, what
- 1:00:35do we get? We get a machine gun with a
- 1:00:38non-interchangeable barrel. We get a
- 1:00:40machine gun with a reduced service life
- 1:00:43of the receiver. That’s it. And what
- 1:00:48is the gain? Oh, your barrel will be
- 1:00:51cooled, guys. When I first showed this
- 1:00:56trick, meaning when they first
- 1:00:58approached me, we were reading in the*
- 1:01:00Weapon*magazine in 2004, there's such a
- 1:01:03machine gun, 22nd year. We urgently
- 1:01:07need the barrel, we want to see how
- 1:01:08it’s designed. I said, you don’t
- 1:01:10need it. Well, why? I’ll show you
- 1:01:12right now. I show them. People look and
- 1:01:14say, "Wait, Uncle Vanya, that’s just
- 1:01:17a scam." Well, the point is what? That
- 1:01:19there is a whole range of machine gun
- 1:01:23models whose barrels have forced air
- 1:01:26cooling. And the first place in this
- 1:01:29whole history goes to the Lewis gun,
- 1:01:32>> Yes, the 1915 model.
- 1:01:35>> And
- 1:01:35>> the last place at the bottom, cookies,
- 1:01:38>> right? Then the Vickers machine gun,
- 1:01:41which they turned into a tripod-mounted
- 1:01:43gun by upgrading it—they cut gills
- 1:01:45into it, developed an injection muzzle,
- 1:01:47and made it an air-cooled machine gun,
- 1:01:50that's basically it. But there, the
- 1:01:53entire barrel is cooled along its
- 1:01:56entire length. So they have, on the
- 1:02:02Vickers, they have forced air intake at
- 1:02:04the breech of the barrel, which is
- 1:02:06logical because that part gets very hot
- 1:02:08.
- 1:02:10>> Here is the exhaust
- 1:02:12>> towards the enemy. They did everything
- 1:02:15well, it all works. So, what are these
- 1:02:19guys doing? They have their air intake
- 1:02:21right here. I mean, they write in the
- 1:02:24technical documentation that they
- 1:02:26specifically designed the cross-section
- 1:02:28of the ports. I'm just talking nonsense
- 1:02:30here. I've read it, I remember it by
- 1:02:32heart, that they supposedly tested this
- 1:02:35barrel in a wind tunnel. And so the air
- 1:02:38is taken in from here—
- 1:02:42>> somehow they shoved that handle in
- 1:02:44there, you know? They had to move the
- 1:02:47handle forward because they rebalanced
- 1:02:49the machine gun. On your PKM, the
- 1:02:51handle goes here. That's your center of
- 1:02:53gravity. Their center of gravity. They
- 1:02:55shifted it 10 cm forward from this
- 1:02:58machine gun. They rebalanced the
- 1:03:00machine gun. So you go on an assault,
- 1:03:02and all the load goes onto your left
- 1:03:04hand. Meaning you are holding this
- 1:03:07machine gun entirely with your left
- 1:03:08hand, not the right. They rebalanced
- 1:03:12the gun, and it's just a load of
- 1:03:15absolute nonsense. Well, if you're
- 1:03:18doing it this way. Make the air intake
- 1:03:21here, make longitudinal cooling fins,
- 1:03:23not transverse ones. Well, these are
- 1:03:26the 30s, these transverse barrel
- 1:03:28cooling fins. Film this here for us,
- 1:03:33please.
- 1:03:36>> They are technologically simpler
- 1:03:38because they are made on a lathe, not a
- 1:03:40milling machine. Yes,
- 1:03:41>> but
- 1:03:43>> make longitudinal grooves. Make an air
- 1:03:48intake port here above each groove. One
- 1:03:54could have even made the entire casing
- 1:03:56in this form factor, without tapering
- 1:03:58it. Before the war, I had to work in
- 1:04:02industry with injection supply systems
- 1:04:04for various products. In reality, all
- 1:04:07these transitions and all that stuff,
- 1:04:09it just looks pretty and is completely
- 1:04:10useless. A pipe with this cross-section
- 1:04:13could have just gone to the end, and it
- 1:04:15would have blown even better.
- 1:04:17>> Okay, let's just imagine, let's just
- 1:04:20[ __ ] imagine it. So why didn't they
- 1:04:23do that?
- 1:04:27>> I think that, uh—they were struggling
- 1:04:32with something. But not in terms of
- 1:04:34improving the machine gun. I mean,
- 1:04:36everything they did, it’s a
- 1:04:38meaningless story. It doesn't make any
- 1:04:40sense, not in principle, it makes no
- 1:04:42sense at all. This is from 2008, I've
- 1:04:47seen them from 2022, I haven't seen
- 1:04:53this machine gun from the '24 model
- 1:04:55year; I haven't come across it. And
- 1:04:57that's despite the fact that old PKMs
- 1:04:59come in by the dozens and hundreds. I
- 1:05:02mean, they made a thing, but I don't
- 1:05:04know if they're even producing it now,
- 1:05:06or in what quantities. I see them on
- 1:05:09their mobile fire teams, stuff like the
- 1:05:12Pecheneg—well, that's the National
- 1:05:14Guard sitting there shooting at
- 1:05:16something on the front with PKTs on
- 1:05:18their mobile groups, just like we had
- 1:05:20in '22. So, anyway, like as an assault
- 1:05:25machine gun. Well, maybe it can be used
- 1:05:28as an assault weapon. Only, damn it,
- 1:05:35>> this one is better. No, I mean, that's
- 1:05:38it; you take it, tuck the stock under
- 1:05:40your arm, and you work calmly. You're
- 1:05:44just working away comfortably. That's
- 1:05:46it. And even with the bipod
- 1:05:50repositioned—yeah, we do add an extra
- 1:05:54mount here if requested. We also add a
- 1:05:58Picatinny rail so you can attach a
- 1:06:00handle, so everything folds and unfolds
- 1:06:03. That's not an issue. You can deck it
- 1:06:05out however you want. The only thing is
- 1:06:08, while Krug was spending ages under
- 1:06:10our strict guidance making this
- 1:06:13handguard for the PKM, I made a short
- 1:06:15PKM that this handguard doesn't even
- 1:06:18fit. So,
- 1:06:20>> redo it,
- 1:06:21>> Max, we need to do something about this
- 1:06:23. I realize I’ve already worn you out
- 1:06:25over all the years we've known each
- 1:06:27other. Like, talk to Pasha and Artem,
- 1:06:29tell them to make a short handguard. I
- 1:06:33mean, when choosing between the 249 and
- 1:06:35the Pecheneg, the choice is obvious.
- 1:06:37>> Yes, of course. No, that's a completely
- 1:06:40pointless story. It’s pointless, just
- 1:06:43because it’s pointless, damn it. I,
- 1:06:47well, like if
- 1:06:50>> the Russians get their VPNs working,
- 1:06:52they’ll come and say we don't
- 1:06:54understand a damn thing and flood the
- 1:06:55comments defending the Pecheneg.
- 1:06:57>> Well, that's fine. Let them flood the
- 1:06:59comments defending the Pecheneg. Guys,
- 1:07:01tell me, where are those, I don't
- 1:07:04remember, are they on the bottom or not
- 1:07:07? I don't think they're there, if my
- 1:07:08memory serves me right. The lower air
- 1:07:10intake vents. How, how are you
- 1:07:13circulating that air? You stuck this
- 1:07:16handle on here?
- 1:07:17>> So,
- 1:07:18>> pull on it, I think. No, yeah.
- 1:07:26>> Well, they're very conditional. Yes,
- 1:07:30very conditional. It's all blocked,
- 1:07:31well, blocked from underneath. The
- 1:07:33mount, the bipod attachment. So, this
- 1:07:36part that blocks the air intake is the
- 1:07:38bipod mounting bracket. They have a
- 1:07:42handle on top right here.
- 1:07:44>> Yeah. So, Vika, we’ll show it. Vika
- 1:07:45will film it for us.
- 1:07:48>> And this whole story here. Well, what
- 1:07:51was the point of building this? To cool
- 1:07:54the last third of the barrel,
- 1:07:55>> right? And the gas block. Does the gas
- 1:07:59block cool it?
- 1:08:01>> No, listen, due to its weight and metal
- 1:08:04capacity, it heats up and releases heat
- 1:08:06more slowly.
- 1:08:08>> And so what?
- 1:08:09>> That’s it. And it needs cooling.
- 1:08:11What’s not to understand? Well
- 1:08:19>> well, okay. So, the 249.
- 1:08:22>> The 249th. Well
- 1:08:24>> then one more question. Can I? Yes.
- 1:08:27>> The 249. What do you think of it? Is it
- 1:08:30like, you know, with the Kalashnikov,
- 1:08:31where it turned out great right away?
- 1:08:33>> The evolution of the 249 is very simple
- 1:08:35, yeah. 6.8 by 45. Don’t touch
- 1:08:40anything else.
- 1:08:41>> No, well, the ballistics are different
- 1:08:43there, yeah, it’ll be better. And
- 1:08:46what do you think, will the chamber
- 1:08:48stay in this size?
- 1:08:50>> Why? Well, you understand the problem
- 1:08:53of converting it to 6.8 by 45. Replace
- 1:08:55the barrel.
- 1:08:56>> Yeah, yeah, well no, okay. The bolt.
- 1:08:58>> And why the bolt?
- 1:08:59>> Wait. Oh, well yeah, yeah, yeah. We
- 1:09:01don’t change anything. We just swap
- 1:09:03it. Yes.
- 1:09:03>> Well
- 1:09:04>> and
- 1:09:05>> that’s it
- 1:09:06>> and that’s all.
- 1:09:08>> Wait, why? Well, that’s it. Dima,
- 1:09:09that’s how it is with Kalashnikovs.
- 1:09:12You know, with one Kalash, you can make
- 1:09:15three: 223, 7.62, 5.45. Doesn't matter.
- 1:09:19>> No, I mean, well, in principle, the
- 1:09:22whole design. We leave everything as is
- 1:09:24. The Germans with their MG5. I mean,
- 1:09:27what was that all about, damn it?
- 1:09:31>> Big, powerful, beautiful, expensive.
- 1:09:34>> Well, there you go.
- 1:09:35>> A big machine.
- 1:09:37>> Look, if you don't like the barrel
- 1:09:39length, guys, just do what the Czechs
- 1:09:41did with the 59, an assault barrel and
- 1:09:43a long-range barrel. That’s it.
- 1:09:46Barrels in two lengths. The gas
- 1:09:48regulator here is advanced. It allows
- 1:09:50you to adjust it for a longer barrel,
- 1:09:52especially there. Well, that’s
- 1:09:54actually, like Oh, it’s well-made
- 1:09:58right here. There aren’t 12 positions
- 1:10:01like on the PKP, those clicks. Damn.
- 1:10:03>> They say it’s finicky.
- 1:10:06>> About what?
- 1:10:07>> Cleaning. Well, I mean, about dirt.
- 1:10:12>> Come on, you can trash any machine gun.
- 1:10:14Well
- 1:10:15>> no, it’s not finicky. It is finicky.
- 1:10:19>> There. Well, I didn’t get that. Well,
- 1:10:22any weapon needs cleaning. Well,
- 1:10:25>> if we compare it to the PKM.
- 1:10:27>> No, with the PKM
- 1:10:30>> it’s all good.
- 1:10:30>> You don't have to clean the PKM.
- 1:10:33>> Well,
- 1:10:34>> well, until the handle jams, then
- 1:10:35you’re kind of done. Well,
- 1:10:36>> The guys from the training center said
- 1:10:38everything is great, but it requires
- 1:10:40cleaning, cleaning, cleaning, and more
- 1:10:41cleaning. Lubrication for
- 1:10:42>> the guys at the training center. They
- 1:10:44have special sergeants in every unit
- 1:10:46who, like, yeah, they force them to
- 1:10:48clean their weapons. If you haven't
- 1:10:51cleaned your weapon, there’s no food
- 1:10:53for you, you won't be eating. Well,
- 1:10:55after the obstacle course.
- 1:10:57>> Come a bit closer so we’re in the
- 1:10:59frame.
- 1:11:00>> Yes, all weapons need cleaning, both
- 1:11:02large-caliber machine guns and these
- 1:11:04types need cleaning, because if you
- 1:11:05don't clean it, you'll go to the course
- 1:11:07with a dirty gun, and that's it. And
- 1:11:10like, eventually, everyone is doing
- 1:11:11fine.
- 1:11:13>> As someone who did such a great job
- 1:11:15with the RPD, what would you actually
- 1:11:17redesign here? Is there an
- 1:11:19understanding that something needs to
- 1:11:21be changed here besides the caliber?
- 1:11:23>> Uh, look, uh, uh, I would still choose
- 1:11:29a simpler gas regulator. Well, simpler
- 1:11:35than this one, I would make it. It’s
- 1:11:38not really used that much, to be honest
- 1:11:40. And when a person doesn't understand
- 1:11:44how to use it, they start doing crazy
- 1:11:45things, and, well, they might run into
- 1:11:47problems. Well, you know, I wouldn't
- 1:11:52actually be redesigning that specific
- 1:11:53part. I mean, I would design a machine
- 1:11:55gun. I mean, you have to realize the
- 1:11:58249 was made a long time ago. We
- 1:12:01considered a design option for a
- 1:12:04machine gun, let's say, based on an
- 1:12:08inverted Bren bolt.
- 1:12:12>> Well, have you disassembled a Bren?
- 1:12:13>> Well, a Bren 2.
- 1:12:15>> Yes.
- 1:12:15>> Well, of course.
- 1:12:16>> Well, so there you go. Now imagine you
- 1:12:18just took the entire Bren bolt group.
- 1:12:20>> Uh-huh.
- 1:12:21>> Flipped it upside down.
- 1:12:22>> Uh-huh.
- 1:12:24>> That's it.
- 1:12:28>> Well
- 1:12:29>> no, well I I Oh,
- 1:12:30>> yeah. And that solves all your problems
- 1:12:33. So you end up with a, well, much
- 1:12:37simpler product, because here we have
- 1:12:41this rocker arm ejector. Do you mean a
- 1:12:46short-stroke piston? Everything like in
- 1:12:48a Bren?
- 1:12:49>> Maybe even a short-stroke piston.
- 1:12:53>> It could even be a short-stroke piston.
- 1:12:55>> Uh-huh.
- 1:12:56>> A much simpler receiver. I can attach
- 1:13:01this roller to an inverted Bren bolt in
- 1:13:03, like, 2 minutes. Well
- 1:13:05>> okay.
- 1:13:05>> That's all. And like, well, we just
- 1:13:11opened up the 249. Remember, I opened
- 1:13:14the RPD. And I understand, it's a pain.
- 1:13:18Yeah. But-the attempt at an alloy
- 1:13:24receiver, where, well, one of the
- 1:13:26typical jams for a PKT is this axis
- 1:13:29loosening, and all reflection is lost.
- 1:13:32Like this.
- 1:13:33>> Just like that. So you end up with a
- 1:13:37blind hole in the receiver. In this
- 1:13:40blind hole, we have an axle inserted,
- 1:13:44it's secured. The slightest play and
- 1:13:46this rocker arm starts to wobble. Here
- 1:13:49it is done properly by the Americans.
- 1:13:51The Czechs haven't been able to fix
- 1:13:53this for four years. Just can't. Well,
- 1:13:55we know how to fix it.
- 1:13:56>> Listen, I talked, then I had
- 1:13:58correspondence with an armorer from PZD
- 1:14:00. "That's some machine gun. You are
- 1:14:02doing something wrong with it. You are
- 1:14:04breaking it on purpose." I mean, I
- 1:14:07understand that you can swear on air,
- 1:14:09but if I start talking about PZD here,
- 1:14:11I'm afraid your channel might... "
- 1:14:14>> You're wrong about everything. It's the
- 1:14:16most [ __ ] awesome machine gun."
- 1:14:18>> I talked to these armorers three or
- 1:14:22four times. Three. They show all this
- 1:14:26at the training ground. We're standing
- 1:14:32there, chatting. I say: "Well, guys,
- 1:14:36well you had a decent machine gun, a
- 1:14:40decent assault rifle, you once made the
- 1:14:42Vz. 58. Well, a well-made assault rifle
- 1:14:47." And he's like: "Yeah, I have one."
- 1:14:51And it still works, so why the hell
- 1:14:53can't you make a machine gun like that?
- 1:14:56We arrived, well, the machine gunners
- 1:14:58arrived, we're telling them something.
- 1:15:00"Well, look at how your cartridge feed
- 1:15:02works, how after two boxes the machine
- 1:15:04gun is covered in brass shavings. Brass
- 1:15:06shavings already. Look at all these
- 1:15:12parts, look at the quality of the steel
- 1:15:14.""We will give you spare parts.""Shove
- 1:15:16those spare parts up your ass. Make a
- 1:15:19normal machine gun that will work with
- 1:15:20its original bolt." No need to, no need
- 1:15:26. Calm down. That's it, that's it,
- 1:15:28let's not talk about the mentally ill.
- 1:15:30I mean PZD, because they're just head
- 1:15:32in the clouds, telling stories that,
- 1:15:34interestingly, are just like yours. I
- 1:15:37say, I'm reading this, and I say: "Why
- 1:15:39are you telling me this? I say:" I saw
- 1:15:41how it shoots. "I say:" Why are you
- 1:15:43writing me all this [ __ ], that at
- 1:15:46100 meters it can hit a squirrel in the
- 1:15:48eye? I say: "Let's just leave it at
- 1:15:52that." That's why we won't talk about
- 1:15:53PZD. Why am I asking Vanya what he
- 1:15:56modified in the 249? Basically, to
- 1:16:00conclude that it's not perfect, it has
- 1:16:03its own problems, its own flaws, and
- 1:16:06its own nuances in use. But it is, well
- 1:16:09, a good machine gun. A good machine
- 1:16:11gun. The 249. Specifically
- 1:16:13>> not the Turkish or the Czech one. Yeah.
- 1:16:16>> Well, not even Belgian, because, you
- 1:16:18see, they had certain issues with
- 1:16:20materials science back then. Yes. Yes.
- 1:16:23Yes, yes, yes. Europe is just not the
- 1:16:26same anymore, not the same craftsmen.
- 1:16:27Well, you know, the Belgians used to
- 1:16:29work very well, with high quality, and
- 1:16:34uh, how should I put it, with great
- 1:16:37dedication between 1940 and 1945 for a
- 1:16:40whole range of reasons. That was the
- 1:16:43peak, the golden age of Belgian
- 1:16:45gunsmiths. Their quality was excellent,
- 1:16:47they had mass production, and
- 1:16:49everything just shot and worked. Well,
- 1:16:51sort of,
- 1:16:53>> circumstances changed,
- 1:16:53>> circumstances have changed a little bit
- 1:16:55. And so, well, they have a problem
- 1:16:58there, they messed something up in heat
- 1:17:01treatment, maybe the guy at the furnace
- 1:17:03isn't exactly Belgian anymore. They
- 1:17:06over-tempered those extractors. And the
- 1:17:10whole batch just started shattering,
- 1:17:13damn,
- 1:17:14>> they’re snapping. Yes.
- 1:17:15>> Yes. Well, not snapping anymore, it's
- 1:17:17just, well, a defective part. And that
- 1:17:20kind of thing happens with the
- 1:17:22Americans too. I don't know, to be
- 1:17:26honest, they’ve brought us ones that
- 1:17:28were so beat up, just, damn, this, and
- 1:17:34you say the SAW is a bad machine gun.
- 1:17:39The biggest, you know, big plus of the
- 1:17:41SAW is that if you put a little effort
- 1:17:42in, a brand-new SAW barrel fits right
- 1:17:44in. Oh, I don't understand why they
- 1:17:48don't chrome-line SAW barrels, but,
- 1:17:49well, it is what it is. They claim its
- 1:17:51accuracy is much higher and better
- 1:17:54because of that.
- 1:17:56>> So, summarizing the 249, the American
- 1:17:58one is super, use it and enjoy, the
- 1:18:00Belgian ones, as Vanya says, well,
- 1:18:03there might be, there might be nuances.
- 1:18:06And there might be,
- 1:18:07>> but, but you shouldn't give up on it
- 1:18:08either. While I understand that the
- 1:18:11army is, let's say, a rather coercive
- 1:18:14organization, I still advise you, if
- 1:18:16you get your hands on a Czech SAW or a
- 1:18:19Turkish 249 clone, use every possible
- 1:18:21option to get rid of it. Because in my
- 1:18:24experience, in one airborne unit, I
- 1:18:26don't remember which, guys, forgive me,
- 1:18:28they were issued about 20 of them, as
- 1:18:30far as I remember. Only one shot
- 1:18:32properly, and even that was by accident
- 1:18:33, as far as I can tell. All the others,
- 1:18:35they keep calling me: one, two, three,
- 1:18:36they worked on them, worked on them,
- 1:18:37brought them in, worked on them. or who
- 1:18:39>> I don't remember, this was two years
- 1:18:40ago or maybe a year and a half, I don't
- 1:18:42remember, anyway, everything.
- 1:18:44>> We got the SAWs and turned them all to
- 1:18:46hell, a year before the
- 1:18:48counteroffensive, I think we were
- 1:18:50supplying the 47th Brigade for that
- 1:18:53operation.
- 1:18:56>> It even seems to me they were better
- 1:18:58quality back then than they are now.
- 1:19:02Let's say a few more words of praise
- 1:19:04for this one because, damn, it's cool.
- 1:19:08>> Listen, it turned out great, because if
- 1:19:11a machine gun is properly made from the
- 1:19:14start, it implies the possibility of
- 1:19:17upgrades. Some comrades at the front,
- 1:19:21who are not very conscious gunsmiths,
- 1:19:24just try to do the same thing by
- 1:19:26cutting the barrel. That’s all
- 1:19:29nonsense. I mean, it will shoot up to a
- 1:19:32certain point,
- 1:19:32>> as long as it’s more or less clean.
- 1:19:34>> No,
- 1:19:35>> what does being clean have to do with
- 1:19:36it? A dirty one will actually work
- 1:19:37better. It will shoot as long as you
- 1:19:41have a good, new barrel.
- 1:19:43>> Uh-huh.
- 1:19:45>> And the bullet fits tightly. That
- 1:19:47little piece left behind the gas block
- 1:19:50—we've done it this way too—is
- 1:19:53enough to cycle the action. There.
- 1:19:57>> Well, or clean; once it gets dirty, if
- 1:19:59the barrel is already worn out, you can
- 1:20:02clean it all you want—in that sense,
- 1:20:04I agree.
- 1:20:05>> You can clean it 20 times. It still
- 1:20:08won't work. But this approach—one of
- 1:20:12its advantages is that it allows us to
- 1:20:15take those PKM barrels that are already
- 1:20:19worn out—since a PKM barrel wears out
- 1:20:22at the section behind the gas block and
- 1:20:25at the muzzle—we just took it and
- 1:20:29shortened it. You have to understand
- 1:20:32that the old gas port is covered by the
- 1:20:34front sight.
- 1:20:35>> The front sight. Let’s say it again,
- 1:20:37just in case someone didn't understand:
- 1:20:39our gas block is moved
- 1:20:40>> by 85 mm.
- 1:20:42>> Yes. And a final question about this
- 1:20:44machine gun. Tell me, please, if it
- 1:20:47were up to you—I understand it’s
- 1:20:49your design and your brainchild, but
- 1:20:51still, if you step aside and look
- 1:20:53critically, if it were up to you, would
- 1:20:55you put this specific version into mass
- 1:20:57production? Let’s say, hypothetically
- 1:21:01, at a factory—we won't name it, the
- 1:21:02one somewhere around here that’s
- 1:21:03getting bombed a bit, bombed
- 1:21:04periodically. In short, should we put
- 1:21:07this into production, hundreds of them
- 1:21:10for the army?
- 1:21:12>> Well, it should be, well, there is
- 1:21:14sense in producing it as normal people
- 1:21:16do, as an upgrade kit,
- 1:21:17>> right?
- 1:21:18>> So, what do we need? We need the
- 1:21:24shorter barrel itself. Right, we buy it
- 1:21:27as a whole. So, we have a long barrel,
- 1:21:30and we have a short barrel.
- 1:21:33>> Next, we need a shortened tube
- 1:21:43>> and a piston.
- 1:21:45>> Well, I mean, do you think this has a
- 1:21:47right to exist, to live, and to go into
- 1:21:50series production? It has the right.
- 1:21:54And, for instance, if I were tasked
- 1:21:57with making a machine gun now, I would
- 1:21:59make them with a shortened piston as
- 1:22:02the base model.
- 1:22:03>> Oh, right,
- 1:22:05>> yes, and I would slightly overhaul and
- 1:22:08change this gas regulator system. So,
- 1:22:12here we have a release,
- 1:22:14>> yes,
- 1:22:14>> I would have still made it like on the
- 1:22:16240, a gas regulator, that is, well,
- 1:22:18positional. There. And I would have
- 1:22:21clearly marked it with big letters: L
- 1:22:24for long barrel, S for short barrel, F
- 1:22:27for fouled barrel. Three positions.
- 1:22:32Meaning you put on a long rifle barrel,
- 1:22:34you have position L. You put on a short
- 1:22:36assault barrel, you have position S.
- 1:22:38The machine gun stops working, you set
- 1:22:40it to F. That’s it. And it's already
- 1:22:44clear that, well, the handguard needs
- 1:22:46to be made of this type, the way Kruk
- 1:22:47made it. Well, that's not a problem.
- 1:22:52>> Make it shorter, right? It's actually,
- 1:22:54in reality, it is cut and welded
- 1:23:00exactly the same way. This, well,
- 1:23:03>> Vika, how are we doing on time?
- 1:23:05>> One hour 23.
- 1:23:08>> Uh, then let's summarize. Right now,
- 1:23:13this is a development implemented as
- 1:23:16correctly as possible in the Third Army
- 1:23:18Corps. By Uncle Ivan and his fellow
- 1:23:21soldiers.
- 1:23:22>> Yes.
- 1:23:23>> Yes.
- 1:23:25>> If you have the opportunity, adopt this
- 1:23:27concept, yes, rework your own "Pokemons
- 1:23:29," because, well, I'll say it again, I
- 1:23:31really liked it. It really is a light
- 1:23:34machine gun. I mean, it's exactly 6.7
- 1:23:36kg. 6.7 kg in 7.62 caliber. That is
- 1:23:39really good. The 249 is and will be
- 1:23:42great, but once again, the American one
- 1:23:44is definitely not a PKM, and definitely
- 1:23:47not the Czech one. Everything else is
- 1:23:49an intermediate option, yes, and well,
- 1:23:52not for assault. So, this specific
- 1:23:54version is our assault machine gun.
- 1:23:57Well, and the 249, of course.
- 1:24:00>> Op. Yes. Right here. And from your side
- 1:24:07, a summary on machine guns.
- 1:24:09>> Yes. What summary? The summary I said
- 1:24:13at the very beginning: for any question
- 1:24:14you have, we will provide our answer.
- 1:24:16We have machine guns, you have thanks
- 1:24:20again for watching and subscribing.
- 1:24:23Thank you. Now I will formulate it
- 1:24:26again. To the commander of the repair
- 1:24:28platoon of the 512th Separate Repair
- 1:24:30and Restoration Battalion of the Third
- 1:24:32Army Corps and the Third Army Corps in
- 1:24:33general. Also, thank you for the
- 1:24:35operation in Valdi. Real respect, much
- 1:24:38appreciated. Thanks to all the defense
- 1:24:40forces as well. Take care of yourselves
- 1:24:42, fight with good machine guns, and all
- 1:24:45the best.
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