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- 0:00I have over 100 sales people across our
- 0:01portfolio that does over $250 million a
- 0:03year in this video I'm going to teach
- 0:04you one sales skill that separates the
- 0:06best from the rest and it's so powerful
- 0:08I've never taught it before and so I'm
- 0:10going to cover the 3A framework of
- 0:12reframing which is the skill I'm going
- 0:13to teach you and the five rules for
- 0:15using it ethically so what's reframing
- 0:17reframing is the one to three sentences
- 0:19that you say after a prospect says
- 0:21anything but yes that increases the
- 0:24likelihood that whatever your next thing
- 0:25you say gets them to buy so here's how a
- 0:28reframe might sound someone might say
- 0:30say hey uh how many certifications do
- 0:32your trainers have now this is a trap
- 0:35question because it's basically a blind
- 0:38question where whatever you say in
- 0:39response Prospect gets to be the judge
- 0:41of whether or not they accept that and
- 0:43then they choose to buy or not and you
- 0:44don't know what the right answer is and
- 0:46so rather than answer the question you
- 0:49ask a question about the question and so
- 0:52you'd say something like well which
- 0:54certifications are you looking for
- 0:55specifically the next version of this
- 0:57might be someone says uh how many
- 0:59questions I'm going be able to ask via
- 1:01email in support now whatever number you
- 1:03give they might say oh that's that's not
- 1:05enough or that's too many or whatever it
- 1:07is and then they say no for that reason
- 1:08I don't want to buy so instead you might
- 1:10say well why do you want to ask
- 1:13additional questions how many questions
- 1:14do you want to ask is there a purpose
- 1:16that you're trying to solve with this
- 1:17like what are you most afraid of see
- 1:18that was two or three questions in a row
- 1:20that can reframe without answering the
- 1:22question they gave me and one of the
- 1:24biggest lessons that I teach in sales is
- 1:27the person asking the questions is the
- 1:28one who's in control and if you've ever
- 1:30seen the Hollywood movies where they're
- 1:32like I'm the one asking the questions
- 1:33here it's because the person who ask the
- 1:35questions is the one who's in control of
- 1:36the conversation as soon as they start
- 1:38asking the questions you're on defense
- 1:40which is not where you want to be and
- 1:41the reframing process I'm about to show
- 1:43you has sold things as low as 100 bucks
- 1:45all the way up to Million Dollar Plus
- 1:47service packages and it's sold them in
- 1:48person on the phone via Zoom from stage
- 1:51wherever which way you can imagine this
- 1:52works so in a second I'm going to give
- 1:54you the 3 a framework and five rules for
- 1:56using it because this is unbelievably
- 1:58powerful and in use the right way it
- 2:00helps lots of people make good decisions
- 2:02use the wrong way you become a very bad
- 2:04person give a bad reputation for sales
- 2:06so the reason I started thinking about
- 2:08this was I was writing and reviewing our
- 2:11closing manual for our closers and I had
- 2:14this little piece right before all the
- 2:16closes says hey by the way make sure
- 2:17that you reframe the question before you
- 2:20enter into the close but the thing is is
- 2:22I realized as I was walking through the
- 2:23sales Flor the other day I heard someone
- 2:25just immediately fir back an obstacle
- 2:27overcome and it seemed very combative
- 2:29and I was like ah they're not they're
- 2:30not getting the the reframe part and I
- 2:32realized that that little reframe little
- 2:35bubble was one of if not the most
- 2:38important part of handling sales and so
- 2:41if you think about what the most
- 2:42productive sales people do the people
- 2:44who close the highest percentage of
- 2:45sales what do they do they ask for the
- 2:48sale more times than anyone else now
- 2:50here's the problem with that is that if
- 2:51you ask more times than anyone else the
- 2:53wrong way you'll get prospects to hate
- 2:55you and if prospects hate you they won't
- 2:56buy from you and so the idea is we want
- 2:59to be able to ask ask for the sale as
- 3:00many times as soon asly possible which
- 3:01means the way that we ask for the sale
- 3:04or how we frame our ask should not
- 3:08decrease rapport with the customer and
- 3:10so the idea is we want to continue to
- 3:11maintain Rapport the entire time so that
- 3:14we can then ask as many times as we darn
- 3:17well please so here's the 3A framework
- 3:19that I teach the first a is acknowledge
- 3:23all right this is where you build
- 3:25rapport with the prospect version one
- 3:28all right and the way that we do that is
- 3:30by saying what they said back to us now
- 3:33there's a couple benefits from this one
- 3:35is when you say it back to them they
- 3:37think that you're actively listing which
- 3:38of course you should but the other part
- 3:40of it is that it buys you time to think
- 3:41about what you're going to say next and
- 3:43so it gives you a little bit of space to
- 3:44process before you give your overcome or
- 3:47your handling of whatever their
- 3:48objection is the second piece and this
- 3:51is part of why this seems more natural
- 3:53with the most professional guys is that
- 3:56you this is the this is the really sexy
- 3:58part you associate
- 4:00all right now there's three associations
- 4:02that I'm going to show you how to do but
- 4:03what you do is you associate the
- 4:05question they asked with the type of
- 4:06behavior that someone who gets the best
- 4:09results from your product or service
- 4:12would ask and so basically when they
- 4:14feel like they're taking a step away
- 4:15from buying you say that's an amazing
- 4:17question that's actually a question that
- 4:19a lot of the best customers we have ask
- 4:21and so actually you just say nope that
- 4:22means that you're more likely to buy the
- 4:25third thing is that after you have made
- 4:27the association you've made you've
- 4:28acknowledged what they said you've made
- 4:29the association then you ask your next
- 4:32question after you've properly reframed
- 4:34what you're going to say next so let's
- 4:36dive into this so like a lawyer in an
- 4:39interrogation they never ask questions
- 4:41they don't already know the answers to
- 4:42and you as a salesperson want to only
- 4:44ask questions that you know the answers
- 4:46to and if you are ever going to answer
- 4:48questions you want to know that you have
- 4:50the right answer before you respond and
- 4:52so when we do the acknowledgement let's
- 4:54walk through the example I had earlier
- 4:56so they say well what kind of
- 4:58certifications do your trainers have and
- 5:00I say so you're curious about what our
- 5:03certifications are it's a great question
- 5:05it's actually shows that you're really
- 5:07rational person and you're making a
- 5:09serious decision here which is amazing
- 5:11so what I did was boom We restated it
- 5:14boom we made our association and then I
- 5:16would ask an i you can call it an attack
- 5:21it sounds a little bit more aggressive
- 5:22than it is but you basically attack the
- 5:24frame of the question you say hey which
- 5:26certification you looking for
- 5:27specifically and the thing is is most
- 5:29people have never asked a question about
- 5:30their question they usually ask
- 5:31questions because they feel like they're
- 5:32supposed to to make an informed decision
- 5:35but most of the time they don't even
- 5:36know what they're asking and so they're
- 5:38like I don't know it's like well let me
- 5:40tell you what we do have now if the
- 5:41person's like uh do they have nasman Ace
- 5:45certifications now if I don't have that
- 5:47for my trainer specifically I would then
- 5:48say why those certifications
- 5:50specifically right and then they would
- 5:52say well I I I heard that they're good
- 5:54it's like well those are amazing
- 5:56certifications I agree with them I'm not
- 5:57disagreeing and then I would say well we
- 6:00have a couple other ones and I'll tell
- 6:01you why we chose these rather than those
- 6:03and now I can answer it without failing
- 6:05right now if I just said uh our guys
- 6:07don't have that or they have this I
- 6:09might have lost the sale right there and
- 6:12so the thing is is that this applies to
- 6:13basically any question that someone asks
- 6:15it could even be like um you know I need
- 6:18to think about it it' be like awesome
- 6:19what's your main concern right like
- 6:20immediately I'm not I'm not letting them
- 6:22out on that or like hey what are the
- 6:24main variables using to decis make the
- 6:25decision or what would make this a no
- 6:28right these are all questions what are
- 6:29you most afraid of having happen right
- 6:31if I'm deeper in the sale obviously that
- 6:32wouldn't be my first one I would say
- 6:33what's your main concern then we'd sort
- 6:35the question from there but many times
- 6:37people ask you questions in the sale
- 6:39that you don't need to answer you just
- 6:42ask more questions about their question
- 6:45and as long as you're the one asking
- 6:46questions you're the one who's in
- 6:47control which leads me to rule number
- 6:50one of the triaa so here's a little
- 6:53psychology for you as counterintuitive
- 6:56as this seems a prospect believes almost
- 6:58nothing about what you said say in
- 7:00almost everything that they say and so
- 7:02the goal is not to tell them they're a
- 7:03good fit the goal is to ask them
- 7:05questions so that they then say I think
- 7:07I'm a good fit for this or yeah that
- 7:08makes sense that's how you can get them
- 7:12you breadcrumb them to The Logical
- 7:14solution which is that they should buy
- 7:15your thing and by the way if you like
- 7:17some of this more advanced sales stuff
- 7:18we go through this stuff in depth at our
- 7:21acquisition. comom scaling Workshop so
- 7:23my sales director he personally meets
- 7:25with all the companies uh that show up
- 7:27and helps them
- 7:29issue whether it's nurture issues
- 7:30whether it's compensation issues is
- 7:32stuff that we understand really well and
- 7:33so if you are a business owner you are
- 7:35looking to scale check them out
- 7:36acquisition. comom hit the scale button
- 7:38and my team will be in touch so a lot of
- 7:39beginner salespeople think that they
- 7:42should want and this is the worst
- 7:43question ever asked in sales is do you
- 7:45have any questions it's literally asking
- 7:47them to have objections and asking them
- 7:48to take the wheel of the conversation
- 7:50you're literally saying here take
- 7:51control over this because I don't know
- 7:52what I'm doing so please don't do that
- 7:54train that out of your team the second
- 7:56thing is that as soon as you start
- 7:57answering questions again they're the
- 7:59judge jury and executioner of whether or
- 8:01not your answers are good and if your
- 8:03salespeople are not as knowledgeable as
- 8:06you or your technicians which is often
- 8:08true in any kind of service business the
- 8:10people delivering are not necessarily
- 8:11the same or as knowledgeable as the
- 8:12people who are selling it is that they
- 8:14basically set themselves up for failure
- 8:16and I'll give you a quick overcome for
- 8:17this if someone gets a little bit like
- 8:18hey why aren't you answering my
- 8:19questions you say listen it would be
- 8:21like you asking the secretary about how
- 8:23your heart surgery is going to be with
- 8:25the surgeon you're going to want to talk
- 8:26to the surgeon and I'll give you a
- 8:27different one I call this the mechanic
- 8:28version which is hey you're asking me
- 8:30what's wrong with your car and it would
- 8:31be unethical for me to answer it without
- 8:33looking under the hood first and so we
- 8:34can give you much better answers on the
- 8:36inside once we started working with your
- 8:37business or with your whatever right
- 8:39with your body it doesn't really matter
- 8:41right but you can use that analogy to
- 8:42kind of get around it and then I say
- 8:44this and this seals it and if anyone
- 8:46this is how I say it and if anyone does
- 8:48give you an answer on the first call
- 8:50without already having looked under the
- 8:51hood after already giving you a physical
- 8:53or doing the an assessment run the other
- 8:55way because it means they're just trying
- 8:55to tell you whatever they can to get you
- 8:57to buy and now I have the ethical High
- 8:59ground and they can't ask any more
- 9:01questions about that rule number two no
- 9:04one can disagree with a question I tell
- 9:06my team be like smoke and so you can't
- 9:10catch smoke because all you're doing is
- 9:12you're basically always sides shifting
- 9:14in terms of whatever they say you're
- 9:15like o let me ask you a question about
- 9:16that oh can you be more specific hey
- 9:18what are the variables you're thinking
- 9:19about and that way you're always
- 9:21engaging with them and they're the ones
- 9:23doing the talking and then you get to
- 9:25decide whether their answers are good or
- 9:27not and whether or not they're a good
- 9:28fit for the program now we're not going
- 9:30to tell them that that they're a good
- 9:32fit for the program we're going have
- 9:33them make that decision but in terms of
- 9:35judge jury executioner you want that to
- 9:36be you here's why rule number two is so
- 9:38important you can never disagree with a
- 9:40prospect now you may you may you know
- 9:43actually disagree with them but you
- 9:44don't want to voice disagreement with
- 9:45the prospect because you never win a
- 9:47sale by winning an argument anyone who's
- 9:49engaged in an argument both people lose
- 9:51and more importantly for you as a
- 9:52salesperson you lose the sale and so the
- 9:55objective is actually to never disagree
- 9:56with a prospect and the point is to get
- 9:58them to change their minds and we can
- 10:00only do that in an agreeable way people
- 10:02don't change their minds when in a bad
- 10:03mood or they feel insulted right and so
- 10:05we do that by asking them questions now
- 10:07there are ways to ask questions that
- 10:09seem insulting and that's what triaa
- 10:10helps solve and we're going to dive more
- 10:12on that as we go through this but it
- 10:14also means that we can ask questions
- 10:16about their questions which is something
- 10:17that a lot of beginner salespeople don't
- 10:18know they then assume they know what
- 10:21this person is asking about and so they
- 10:23have this really vague question and then
- 10:25they try and come up with the quote
- 10:26right answer and they fail every time
- 10:28and by the way this is just the Ultra
- 10:29Mega hack is that if you don't know how
- 10:31to answer the question you can always
- 10:33ask more questions about their question
- 10:35so let me show you how this sounds in
- 10:37reality so someone says I need to think
- 10:39about it we say totally understand what
- 10:42are the main things you're considering
- 10:43what are the variables that you're
- 10:45considering in your decision what's your
- 10:46main concern what are you most afraid of
- 10:49having happen What would make this a no
- 10:52and one of my favorite questions by the
- 10:53way is well then what would it take for
- 10:55you to say
- 10:57yes now let's say someone says
- 11:00I don't have time timing is off right
- 11:02now for me you say great totally
- 11:05understand acknowledge timing is kind of
- 11:06tough for you right now I think it's
- 11:08smart that you're already thinking about
- 11:10implementation our biggest success
- 11:12stories are actually people who think
- 11:13they're the process the same way you are
- 11:15right now so what would make it a good
- 11:17time and so as you work through this
- 11:19this these two give you the space make
- 11:22the positive Association they take a
- 11:24step back you say I feel you I totally
- 11:27understand now they're back to neutral
- 11:28and then you iate with the thing that's
- 11:30closer to the sale and then you move the
- 11:32move the conversation forward with the
- 11:33ask so let's do another one someone says
- 11:35I need to talk to my spouse you say
- 11:36totally understand I think it's really
- 11:38sensible that you'd want to talk to your
- 11:39spouse and super fair just so I
- 11:42understand out of curiosity what parts
- 11:44do you think now I'm here what parts do
- 11:46you think they wouldn't like what parts
- 11:47do you think they would disagree with
- 11:49and so we've now moved from I have to
- 11:51talk to my partner to now we're back in
- 11:52the sale talking about the specific
- 11:54things and once we get the prospect to
- 11:56name those things then we can attack
- 11:58those right we're still in the sale so
- 12:00let's say someone says I hate this
- 12:01particular feature you say totally get
- 12:04it I hate them all too just kidding let
- 12:06me just ask you a real question why not
- 12:08and then we can get we're back into it
- 12:10right like all of these things is people
- 12:12will make statements as though they are
- 12:15deal Enders and beginners will take a
- 12:17statement like that and think oh I guess
- 12:18they're not going to buy and that's
- 12:21couldn't be further from the truth you
- 12:22just continue to ask questions about why
- 12:23they don't like something and by
- 12:25continuing to ask questions about their
- 12:27questions you can stay in it and keep
- 12:30asking because that's the point the best
- 12:31closers make the most asks which leads
- 12:34me to rule number three which is tell
- 12:36them what their question means so this
- 12:37is a zoom in on associate if you're a
- 12:40salesperson with at least two years of
- 12:41experience and you're enjoying this
- 12:43stuff this is like just the surface of
- 12:46the type of stuff that we train our
- 12:47teams on and if you'd like to work at
- 12:50acquisition. comom or one of our
- 12:51portfolio companies we are always
- 12:53looking for exceptional sales people we
- 12:54have a lot of roles open right now in
- 12:56sales and so you can go to acquisition.
- 12:59/are and hit the business consultant
- 13:01button that'll that'll take you to the
- 13:03uh application for that if you're good
- 13:05just apply we're willing to be flexible
- 13:08on payments based on experience and
- 13:09whatnot but just put in the application
- 13:11so the first time I had this used on me
- 13:14I was actually getting pitched
- 13:16investment or private wealth management
- 13:18from somebody and I wanted to just get
- 13:20out of the conversation as fast as I
- 13:22could because I was like I already have
- 13:23a wealth advisor like I'm good and the
- 13:25guy just said oh that's amazing 90% of
- 13:27the clients we have that shift over are
- 13:29already have a wealth advisor so it
- 13:30means you already know how a lot of
- 13:31these things work which means you'll be
- 13:32up the learning curve and I was like
- 13:34what just happened I was like I thought
- 13:36I was getting out of this and now I'm
- 13:37more like the customers that that
- 13:39ultimately buy and I ended up not buying
- 13:41from that particular guy but I did think
- 13:45wow that was such a powerful reframe how
- 13:48can I use that in all of my
- 13:50selling and so the prospect has not had
- 13:54this conversation as many times as you
- 13:57you should never be caught off guard
- 13:59with the questions or the statements
- 14:00that they're going to make remember
- 14:02you've had a thousand of these
- 14:03conversations the fact that somebody
- 14:04could surprise you is ridiculous you
- 14:06have to practice this is why we train
- 14:08and so a prospect is trying to just
- 14:10throw up bombs or smoke screens to get
- 14:12out of the sale and again to be clear
- 14:15what I believe is bad selling is one of
- 14:17two key things is one is you sell an
- 14:19unqualified Prospect which basically
- 14:21means that you're lying to them that
- 14:23they're going to get a good result or
- 14:24that they somehow are qualified when
- 14:25they're really not which really
- 14:27underpins the main thing of sales in my
- 14:29opinion which we have across really all
- 14:31of our communication stuff in the
- 14:32company which is State the facts and
- 14:33tell the truth if you state the facts
- 14:35and tell the truth and this person is
- 14:37qualified then you have the ethical
- 14:39obligation to ask as many times as you
- 14:40possible and get them to pull their head
- 14:41out of their ass so that they can see
- 14:43the world clearly instead of it being
- 14:44dark and full of which is is up
- 14:45their ass and help them make a decision
- 14:47to help themselves that's the point now
- 14:50if you get weird about resistance then
- 14:54you don't understand the job of sales
- 14:56the the best sales people are
- 14:59comfortable when other people feel like
- 15:01there's conflict all right and so
- 15:02they're able to always deescalate which
- 15:04is why be like smoke is so key it's a
- 15:07dance not a fight it's seduction not
- 15:09rape all right the idea is that we want
- 15:11to always have consent from the person
- 15:13we always want them to want to be there
- 15:15and people like you when you ask
- 15:17questions about them people like you
- 15:19when you compliment them and you say hey
- 15:21that's a really smart question hey that
- 15:23makes you just like the people who have
- 15:24the best success stories and I'll show
- 15:26you a little bit more about some more
- 15:27associations in the next rule which
- 15:28leaves to rule number four use Straw Men
- 15:31for tough truths so we've all been in a
- 15:33sale where someone just says something
- 15:35ridiculous where you can clearly see
- 15:36that they beliefs around the world are
- 15:38so flawed that you have to have kind of
- 15:40a papa talk right now there's different
- 15:42ways of entering this some people say
- 15:43hey can I put my coach hat on instead of
- 15:45my friend hat so the thing is is that in
- 15:47all of these reframes you're basically
- 15:49getting permission from the person to
- 15:52give them a harsh truth now if you're a
- 15:54younger guy and let's say you sell B2B
- 15:57much tougher to do so if you're 22-year-
- 15:59old sales guy and you're talking to a
- 16:0045-year-old you know $10 million year
- 16:02plumber he probably doesn't give a
- 16:04about you trying to put your coach hat
- 16:05on he just thinks you're a child and he
- 16:07doesn't care at all to the same degree
- 16:09if you say hey well can I share
- 16:10something that really worked well for me
- 16:12again the same degree that puts you
- 16:13above him and he's not going to like
- 16:15that and so I use three different
- 16:17strategies of Straw Men and strawman in
- 16:19argumentation is basically like
- 16:21basically putting I use the word foil
- 16:22normally but people don't know what that
- 16:23means but basically it's like you
- 16:25basically put up this caricature of
- 16:27someone who's just like them that you
- 16:29can then have the tough conversation
- 16:31with without insulting the prospect so
- 16:33I'll give you three different ways that
- 16:34we do this so the first way is when you
- 16:37make the association so this is us going
- 16:39deep on associate here okay so this is
- 16:42where someone says whatever it is
- 16:44totally understand that you're coming
- 16:45from that direction I would ask those
- 16:46questions too now we make the
- 16:49association so one of three so number
- 16:51one you can say it's so funny you ask
- 16:53that because I had someone just earlier
- 16:55today who asked the same questions can I
- 16:57share with you what I just shared with
- 16:58them
- 16:59now the thing is is that because I'm now
- 17:01talking about a conversation I had with
- 17:03someone else I can now be brutal as
- 17:06to this other person but I'm not saying
- 17:07it to the Prospect and so it's not
- 17:09insulting the second way that you can do
- 17:12this is that you do it in reference and
- 17:15I said it earlier to a successful past
- 17:17customer that's so cra like totally
- 17:19understand you know what that actually
- 17:20makes you just like Sarah who had a
- 17:23similar Plumbing business and actually
- 17:25crushed it with our marketing agency and
- 17:28so now we've made the association and
- 17:30she asked this question too boom and
- 17:32then we and then we handle the objection
- 17:34all right and so these Straw Men are
- 17:36particularly important when you are
- 17:38going to answer a question so everything
- 17:40up to this point has been basically
- 17:42sidest stepping being like smoke but
- 17:44sometimes you will have to make the
- 17:45answer and so if we do need to give them
- 17:47an explanation or kind of break their
- 17:49belief when they're say I don't have
- 17:50time you're like oh it's not really a
- 17:52timing thing it's a priorities question
- 17:53but if you say that to somebody and you
- 17:54don't have as much Rapport you're going
- 17:56to lose the sale right like that is the
- 17:58logical thing it everybody has the same
- 17:59amount of time every day it's really
- 18:00just a question of priorities but if you
- 18:02say it at the wrong time they're going
- 18:03to be like screw you right and so by
- 18:06doing the straw man or putting the foil
- 18:08up or the car that you can then attack
- 18:09or talk to in front of this Prospect it
- 18:11creates a third party that's
- 18:14neutral the third way of using the
- 18:16associate is that you can appeal to
- 18:18Authority so if you're in a business
- 18:20where the CEO is edified or the CEO is
- 18:23seen as a as a as a as a uh as a
- 18:27respectable person or an expert in the
- 18:28field either can be fame or it can be
- 18:30influence or can be expertise it doesn't
- 18:31really matter which one but as long as
- 18:33they have some level of expertise
- 18:35instead
- 18:37of appealing to your own authority you
- 18:40appeal to theirs which is it's so funny
- 18:42that you ask that Alex just told me this
- 18:44thing earlier today can I share it with
- 18:45you right and so then the person appeals
- 18:47to someone else's Authority and then
- 18:49shares it they're the messenger they're
- 18:51not saying I'm not saying this he said
- 18:53it and I'm just sharing it with you
- 18:55these sound like tiny Sid steps but this
- 18:58type of triple reframing is what
- 19:00separates beginners from pros and it and
- 19:02when you do it this way people actually
- 19:04like to be sold by you because they feel
- 19:06like they're being hurt you make
- 19:07associations that are saying hey that's
- 19:09smart hey that's reasonable totally
- 19:10understand why you'd say that like these
- 19:12are all things like that's a rational
- 19:13decision hey I think that's a fair point
- 19:15those are all things that someone wants
- 19:17to hear they're like hey he's listening
- 19:18he thinks I'm intelligent or I'm
- 19:20rational or he's not discarding my
- 19:23decision everybody wants to be validated
- 19:25right so it's the same thing as the
- 19:26angry boat but just in a sales
- 19:28conversation so in the angry boat for
- 19:30customer success or customer service if
- 19:32someone's upset you don't disagree with
- 19:34them and say hey it wasn't that big of a
- 19:35deal sorry we were 5 minutes late it
- 19:37never works because you're disagreeing
- 19:39with them you're invalidating the reason
- 19:40that they're angry so you have to get
- 19:42more angry you have to go above and
- 19:44that's where you say hey that's a
- 19:45totally reasonable concern rather than
- 19:47saying that's a stupid question right
- 19:49like you might feel that way but you
- 19:50don't say that and the reason I realize
- 19:53this especially with the association one
- 19:56is I heard my sales guys and they were
- 19:59they were having a tougher time using
- 20:01some of the closes and I was like
- 20:03they're like yeah you know some of them
- 20:04aren they sound a little you know tough
- 20:06they're a little harsh and I was like no
- 20:07no no it's and when I realized that I
- 20:09was like oh it's because they're not
- 20:10prefacing it with this if you preface
- 20:13with this you can say almost anything
- 20:14and this allows you to cut to the heart
- 20:16of the matter way faster instead of
- 20:17dancing around it because you don't want
- 20:18to hurt someone's feelings which leads
- 20:20me to rule number five which is retain
- 20:23childlike curiosity at all times so one
- 20:26of my favorite ways of training this
- 20:28concept is actually training a physical
- 20:30thing that you do with your body even if
- 20:32you're on a sales call and they can't
- 20:33see you because your tone will change
- 20:35based on how you're standing if you're
- 20:36smiling or not your voice will come out
- 20:39different which by the way I encourage
- 20:40you to have a mirror if you're on the
- 20:41phone next to you in your sales booth
- 20:43and if you do Zoom obviously you can see
- 20:44your own little image there but I like
- 20:47to have people say huh and you say it
- 20:49just like that and huh also buys you two
- 20:51or three seconds before you say your
- 20:53next thing say huh that's so interesting
- 20:56you'd ask that question can I can I ask
- 20:57you a little bit more about that
- 20:59like if someone says something really
- 21:02nasty to you right but if you if you
- 21:03retain that way the goal is to seek to
- 21:06understand not whenn and the way that I
- 21:09try to keep this and if you're a sales
- 21:10guide put a little sticky note above
- 21:11your camera or wherever you look while
- 21:13you're selling which is keep the human
- 21:15number one all right and so this is a
- 21:17really powerful frame that I actually
- 21:18learned from Leila for having hard
- 21:19conversations on the team but it
- 21:21actually applies to sales which is if
- 21:23you genuinely believe that the product
- 21:25you have is going to help this person
- 21:27and this is a qualified prospect that
- 21:29you're talking to then you want to
- 21:33understand their concerns so that you
- 21:35can help them get over them because you
- 21:37know this is the right decision for them
- 21:39and so this is a frame that I like to
- 21:40think about so let's say you could
- 21:42travel back in time but you're in a
- 21:43different body and you see your old self
- 21:46and you know what the future's going to
- 21:49be and you might say okay I have to
- 21:52convince this person to buy Nvidia 10
- 21:54years ago and so or I have to buy Apple
- 21:56stock or I have to buy Bitcoin whatever
- 21:58it is I don't really care the thing is
- 21:59is you know that this thing is going to
- 22:00go through the roof but the person
- 22:02you're talking to doesn't know you from
- 22:04adom think about how you talk to that
- 22:07person now remember they don't know who
- 22:08you are even though you know you you
- 22:10would have absolute empathy for your old
- 22:12self and be like listen I totally
- 22:14understand this seems totally crazy but
- 22:17let me walk you through what I think is
- 22:19going to happen right let me let's like
- 22:20what are what are your main concerns
- 22:22what are you most afraid of right what
- 22:23would it take for you to say yes what
- 22:24would it take for us to take the next
- 22:26step together it allows you to make sure
- 22:28that you're focusing on the prospect
- 22:31rather than the product and so you don't
- 22:33close sales by being right you close
- 22:35sales by making the prospect right and
- 22:37so the big understanding here is that
- 22:40you want to understand them not beat
- 22:43them because as soon as it feels
- 22:45combative you've already lost the sale
- 22:46if they feel like you won an argument
- 22:48logically you've lost the sale the point
- 22:50is to make money not to be right and so
- 22:53we want them to feel good about The
- 22:55Logical decision that we're helping them
- 22:56make and if anything you want to be you
- 22:57want to be a face hero in this in their
- 23:00in their Journey you're like hey I'm
- 23:01just I'm just the guide here I'm just
- 23:02I'm going to just share the information
- 23:04that I think will help you make a good
- 23:05decision right Ah that's a great
- 23:06question can I provide a little bit of
- 23:07context on that just from someone that
- 23:09had this experience earlier today right
- 23:11like all of these things are things that
- 23:12will allow you to give those hard truths
- 23:15to close the deal the reason the
- 23:17association is so important is that it
- 23:19gives the prospect a label to then live
- 23:20up to and so this is a 2011 version of
- 23:25selling but if you say Hey you seem like
- 23:27a really honest person or hey that's a
- 23:28really smart decision or hey that's a
- 23:30really smart question if I then give
- 23:32them that label when I get closer to the
- 23:34close I might bring that back up and
- 23:36then associate smart people by this
- 23:38thing right hey that's you must be a
- 23:40good family man right because you had
- 23:42some spouse objection fine seems like
- 23:43your family man family is really
- 23:44important to you I think that's awesome
- 23:45it's super admirable now when I get to
- 23:48the end of the sale I can bring up the
- 23:49fact that this is a family man and
- 23:51because he's a family man he should buy
- 23:54and so it allows me to pair whatever
- 23:56their obstacles were with things that
- 23:57I'm going to bring up in the clothes Pro
- 23:59tip my Universal response for almost
- 24:03anything so I walked through the sales
- 24:04floor and one of the guys was on the
- 24:05phone and I was like you should come and
- 24:08I just walked through the room and then
- 24:09the guy was like ah and so my sales guy
- 24:11was like so you coming and the iy was
- 24:13like yeah and it a super weak right he
- 24:15was obviously not sold yet so I actually
- 24:17was like give me the phone and so I
- 24:19hopped on the phone and I said dude what
- 24:20are you afraid of and so when you ask
- 24:24what are you most afraid of it gets you
- 24:26to the heart of the issue as fast as POS
- 24:28now if it's the first objection I would
- 24:29want to ask what's your main concern
- 24:31what's your main issue what are the
- 24:32variables using to make the decision
- 24:34that's like kind of understanding so you
- 24:35can triage but when I'm further along in
- 24:37the sale I'll usually ask hey what are
- 24:39you afraid of man like what are you
- 24:40afraid of having happen and if someone's
- 24:42like I just I just need more time then
- 24:44you say totally understand what would
- 24:46make it a no and so by doing that it
- 24:49still keeps you in the sale because at
- 24:51the end of the day like you want to make
- 24:52a good decision I'm the source of your
- 24:53information so the best possible
- 24:55decision we can make is is here but
- 24:57again you can only say something like
- 24:58that if you have Rapport in the sale and
- 25:00you've continue to demonstrate that
- 25:01throughout if I said something like that
- 25:03and I didn't have Rapport they'd be like
- 25:04no you so it's not going to work if
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