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- 0:38You know, last night Sofia and I are
- 0:39talking and we're kind of going in the
- 0:41end of this and we're like,
- 0:43you know, we're putting a lot of trust
- 0:45in these guys. They could make us look
- 0:47stupid. Like we've been
- 0:51blindsided by everything the past two
- 0:53years. It's been a lot to figure out who
- 0:56can we trust really.
- 0:58It's a real concern and you know,
- 1:01I recognize it like you have contempt
- 1:04for what I believe. Like in terms of my
- 1:07political viewpoints. Like you don't I
- 1:10think in any other situation we you
- 1:14probably would be protesting my office.
- 1:16You're just so far left. First of all,
- 1:18that's kind of mean. Yeah, it is. I
- 1:19know.
- 1:20>> That's kind of mean that you would think
- 1:21I would have contempt for your views.
- 1:22Yeah.
- 1:23>> Why would you think that?
- 1:23>> Do you have contempt for my views,
- 1:25Steve?
- 1:34And in the key House races, Republican
- 1:36Adam [music] Kinzinger cruised in that
- 1:3811th District Republican primary. He
- 1:40grabbed 64% [music] of the vote.
- 1:42>> The 32-year-old Air Force pilot also
- 1:44received strong support from the Tea
- 1:46Party in his landslide win. That Okay,
- 1:48that's a fair question. But what you're
- 1:49essentially asking me is why would I
- 1:51want to make a movie about you, a guy
- 1:52whose political views I oppose?
- 1:54Adam Kinzinger
- 1:56>> he's [music] a real up-and-coming star.
- 1:58Yes, Adam.
- 1:59>> Mr. President, thank you. And just from
- 2:00the House perspective, I want to say uh
- 2:02Adam is still currently serving guard
- 2:04member. You're my commander-in-chief.
- 2:06He's doing a great job as secretary.
- 2:07>> Great job. He is doing a great [music]
- 2:09job. Thank you, Adam. Very much
- 2:10appreciate it. Handsome guy. I mean,
- 2:12normally I want nothing to do with you.
- 2:14You voted with the president 93% of the
- 2:16time. So, that
- 2:18seems like you're No, it's all fun. I'm
- 2:20just curious to see And then
- 2:22lo and behold
- 2:24Frankly, we did win this election.
- 2:27>> [cheering]
- 2:28>> When the president denies the election
- 2:30result, all of a sudden there's this guy
- 2:31from my home state, you, who stands up
- 2:34and says, "Fuck that."
- 2:36The truth is that the election was not
- 2:37stolen.
- 2:39And it's important for our party to take
- 2:41inventory of that and go out and win the
- 2:43next election
- 2:44instead of continuing the big lie.
- 2:47And then after the president literally
- 2:48tries to overthrow the government
- 2:50to the Capitol you were the first
- 2:52legislator, you were the first one of
- 2:54either party to invoke the 25th
- 2:56Amendment and say,
- 2:57"This guy's a maniac and needs to
- 2:58[music] be forcibly removed from
- 3:00office."
- 3:01All indications are that the president
- 3:02has become unmoored, not just from his
- 3:05duty
- 3:06or even his oath, but from reality
- 3:08itself. Then you voted for impeachment.
- 3:10How does it feel to be a pariah within
- 3:12your own party? So, yeah, that's why I
- 3:14wanted to make this movie. But I'd be
- 3:16lying if I said I wasn't conflicted,
- 3:17right? Because to me, a courageous
- 3:19Republican is still a Republican.
- 3:22I think it's not about a political view.
- 3:27It's about
- 3:29what it is to turn against
- 3:32everything you've ever belonged to
- 3:36because of some red line you can't
- 3:39cross.
- 3:52So, out of all the cinematic visionaries
- 3:54who wanted to make this film,
- 3:57why did you say yes to me?
- 4:02Hot Tub Time Machine is the thing that
- 4:03sold me.
- 4:06>> [music]
- 4:08>> It's a cinematic masterpiece.
- 4:11How can such a serious filmmaker like
- 4:13Hot Tub Time Machine not make me look
- 4:15good?
- 4:16Wha- Right.
- 4:18That's really good logic.
- 4:19>> Thank you.
- 4:20So, we've been shooting together for
- 4:21over a year.
- 4:24Yeah, a lot over a year. Feels like 4
- 4:26years.
- 4:27And they need and
- 4:29in fact
- 4:30and that
- 4:34through, you know, up the appropriations
- 4:36process
- 4:36>> real negotiating yet between the two
- 4:38chambers Yeah.
- 4:40We're happy to take a look. Hello, this
- 4:42is Congressman Kinzinger's office. How
- 4:43may I help you?
- 4:45Okay, welcome to the office.
- 4:49And
- 4:51so, this is our
- 4:53front room. And then in here, this is
- 4:56where folks from our legislative team
- 4:58sit. Our deputy chief of staff, Mara, is
- 5:01out there looking.
- 5:03So, you're asking me for the statement
- 5:04before I even give out the statement?
- 5:10Mara is allowed to type her away but
- 5:12when she's being recorded, she's like
- 5:14just a little bit louder. You think so?
- 5:17You can feel the the emphasis, yeah.
- 5:22>> [laughter]
- 5:23>> Is that quiet enough for you, Paul? Is
- 5:25it too loud?
- 5:26So, when I joined the office, I would
- 5:28ignore Mara's emails because she was
- 5:30mean to me. That's not true. But I would
- 5:31always do what she asked. I would just
- 5:33never respond. Well, Mara could see
- 5:35Paul's computer. So, he'd open an email.
- 5:38I would see he saw it, close out of it.
- 5:40I was like, well, he clearly ignored me.
- 5:41That's quite rude.
- 5:44Rule number nine was in response to me
- 5:47suggesting that in some circumstances
- 5:49tickling would be okay.
- 5:52But this is a reminder that under no
- 5:54circumstance can you tickle any
- 5:55co-workers.
- 5:58Um
- 6:00How's this going?
- 6:02Good. It's actually good. Yeah. Yeah.
- 6:04They're not on my nerves yet or
- 6:05anything. That's good.
- 6:07>> Yeah. Any time.
- 6:09It's funny though because at the
- 6:10beginning I don't think your chief of
- 6:11staff was thrilled to see me in your
- 6:12office.
- 6:13You know, I think in Austin's
- 6:14perspective, anytime there's a camera
- 6:17around you're on defense. It's very
- 6:18difficult not not filming. I mean you
- 6:20you made it very clear from the very
- 6:21beginning that you didn't agree with my
- 6:23politics. You called yourself basically
- 6:25a communist. You outed yourself out.
- 6:27>> Progressive, but sure. All right.
- 6:29Thanks.
- 6:31You know, when we were filming that
- 6:32first day, keep in mind the mindset to
- 6:34that point, I was still considering
- 6:36running for governor or Senate.
- 6:38The decisions I made to speak out
- 6:40against Trump or even vote for
- 6:41impeachment, I never really had a debate
- 6:45on that in my own mind. I knew I had to
- 6:47do it.
- 6:48But when I voted that way,
- 6:50naively,
- 6:51I thought there's no way people aren't
- 6:53going to wake up from this.
- 6:56I remember the day after January 6th,
- 6:59you know, everybody was kind of waking
- 7:00up at that point. The president bears
- 7:02responsibility for Wednesday's attack on
- 7:05Congress by mob rioters.
- 7:07He should have immediately denounced the
- 7:09mob when he saw what was unfolding.
- 7:12These facts require immediate action.
- 7:15For President Trump.
- 7:16>> President Trump is practically
- 7:18and morally responsible
- 7:21for provoking the events
- 7:24of the day.
- 7:26No question about it.
- 7:28I called it it was like Saturday morning
- 7:31when you had a giant party at your house
- 7:33Friday night and now you got chickens
- 7:35flying around. You have a bad headache,
- 7:37you know, you're only wearing a shirt
- 7:39and you're like, what did we do last
- 7:40night? That's where I thought the party
- 7:42was. So you're
- 7:45you're thinking even at that moment was
- 7:47the insurrection and the attempt to
- 7:48overthrow the government and a and a
- 7:50coup d'état that included 140
- 7:52Republicans voting to not certify the
- 7:55election. You thought that just might
- 7:56have been a crazy bender and that they
- 7:58were going to wake up and get their [ __ ]
- 8:00together.
- 8:01>> You wake up, you're going to deal with
- 8:02the hangover,
- 8:04and you're going to gut it out and drink
- 8:05water, right?
- 8:10Donald Trump was a nonentity. Nobody
- 8:11even showed up at Andrews when he left.
- 8:21But you can always fix a hangover by
- 8:23starting to drink again.
- 8:26And that's when Kevin McCarthy goes to
- 8:28Mar-a-Lago. That changed everything.
- 8:31Cuz Donald Trump had been disgraced
- 8:33until that moment.
- 8:36Kevin McCarthy was the minority leader,
- 8:39and Kevin told us,
- 8:41"I just happen to be down there in Palm
- 8:44Beach,
- 8:45and he wanted to meet, and I'm not going
- 8:46to say no to a former president."
- 8:48[ __ ]
- 8:52I knew at that moment what would happen.
- 8:56You know, if you didn't know the TV
- 8:57footage was a video from January the
- 8:596th, you would actually think it was a
- 9:01normal tourist visit.
- 9:02>> The former president, was he responsible
- 9:04for what happened? No, of course not.
- 9:06You think about it. If you actually come
- 9:07to grips with what's happened,
- 9:09that's going to take some soul
- 9:10searching. It's much better to just numb
- 9:12the pain. It's easier.
- 9:14After careful consideration,
- 9:17I've made the decision to oppose the
- 9:19House Democrats' slanted and unbalanced
- 9:21proposal
- 9:22for another commission to study the
- 9:24events of January the 6th. Just to
- 9:27approach you with this analogy,
- 9:28>> it seems like you would be a great
- 9:29candidate to start Republicans
- 9:31Anonymous. Yeah, maybe. You know what I
- 9:33mean? Like you could have a you know,
- 9:34like, "Hi, my name is Jim Jordan."
- 9:36>> then we're just feeding into your little
- 9:38left-wing like, "Oh, every every
- 9:40Republican is just a Democrat waiting to
- 9:42find his wings."
- 9:44>> [ __ ]
- 9:48I mean, it's a funny analogy, but in
- 9:51that moment,
- 9:53I felt
- 9:55very isolated.
- 9:58With great solemnity and sadness,
- 10:01uh I'm announcing that the House will be
- 10:03establishing an uh
- 10:05select committee on the January 6th
- 10:08insurrection.
- 10:11It is imperative that we establish the
- 10:13truth of that day.
- 10:17The select committee will investigate
- 10:18and report on the facts and the causes
- 10:21of the attack, [music] and it will make
- 10:22report recommendations uh for the
- 10:25prevention of any future attack.
- 10:27>> The resolution is adopted. After you
- 10:29were the only Republican besides Cheney
- 10:31[music] to vote for the creation of a
- 10:33select committee, at that point, are you
- 10:35just all in? Because you don't know
- 10:37you're on the committee yet, right?
- 10:38>> No, and I don't want to be on the
- 10:39committee. Really? I didn't want to be
- 10:41on the committee.
- 10:43He was not supposed to be there.
- 10:45Adam was not supposed to be in that
- 10:48group of people.
- 10:50You know, I voted for it cuz it was the
- 10:51right thing to do.
- 10:53And I start hearing rumors that Nancy
- 10:55Pelosi is going to appoint a Republican
- 10:56to sit on a Democratic seat. Very
- 10:58brilliant of her.
- 11:00And I was like, "Please, dear Jesus, not
- 11:03me."
- 11:04And I remember we had dinner in DC that
- 11:07night.
- 11:08And I remember we both talked about it
- 11:10of like, "Should he do it?" I don't want
- 11:12to do it. I don't.
- 11:14I also know I can't I can't say no if
- 11:17I'm asked.
- 11:19And freaking Nancy Pelosi announces it
- 11:21before she even calls me, by the way.
- 11:23Kind of pissed me off.
- 11:24>> Will you be appointing more Republicans
- 11:26to the committee like Congressman Adam
- 11:27Kinzinger?
- 11:28That would be my plan. I wake up Sunday
- 11:31morning
- 11:32to a missed call from her at like 5:00
- 11:34a.m. Like I'm going to be up.
- 11:35>> So, when will that be announced?
- 11:38Perhaps so, after I speak to
- 11:40uh Adam Kinzinger.
- 11:43A lot changed out there.
- 11:46Illinois's Adam Kinzinger
- 11:47>> Adam Kinzinger joins Congresswoman Liz
- 11:49Cheney on the nine-member panel, who
- 11:51lost her job in Republican House
- 11:53leadership for taking a similar stance.
- 11:55>> The first committee hearing is set for
- 11:56Tuesday, where Capitol Police officers
- 11:59will testify about their personal
- 12:00experiences. My staff, by the way, is
- 12:02telling me like, "You're not going to do
- 12:04this, right? This is suicidal."
- 12:07And
- 12:09and they are right. Action.
- 12:13Cut.
- 12:14Everybody come up here and re-work.
- 12:15>> I was with you the day that the final
- 12:17redistricting map comes up. Was that
- 12:20when we were out shooting the
- 12:20commercial?
- 12:27Now, Kinzinger has served six terms in
- 12:29Congress, but newly approved
- 12:30congressional maps put Congressman Adam
- 12:32Kinzinger in the same district as Darin
- 12:34LaHood.
- 12:35>> That new district voted 60% for
- 12:37President Trump, a deep red, pro-Trump
- 12:39district.
- 12:42They drew me in in a very unfavorable
- 12:45district with a kind of crazy MAGA guy,
- 12:49and I knew there was no way I could run
- 12:50in a primary and win.
- 12:52Well, it's just a sensitive I mean,
- 12:54we're in a sensitive topic right now,
- 12:55and so we don't want information to kind
- 12:58of get out that we're not ready to get
- 12:59out.
- 13:00>> off the record.
- 13:01>> Yeah. Like, you know. I got to
- 13:06Well, there's no good timing. There's no
- 13:08good timing. If if you're not going to
- 13:10run, there's not a good time. Yeah.
- 13:14If we announce this week,
- 13:17you're no longer part of the party, and
- 13:18you're no longer
- 13:20influential.
- 13:21>> Yeah.
- 13:24Yeah, and that very bad news came in the
- 13:26middle of you doing like a thousand
- 13:28takes for a political ad about finding
- 13:30common ground.
- 13:32Some leaders in Washington have
- 13:34forgotten the purpose of democracy. Some
- 13:35leaders in Washington. Some leaders in
- 13:37Washington. Some leaders in Washington
- 13:39have focused
- 13:42That was a rough day for you.
- 13:52Hey, if I don't see you guys
- 13:58Adam Kinzinger, perhaps the most
- 14:00high-profile Republican lawmaker in
- 14:01Illinois, announced he won't seek
- 14:04re-election. He is one of only [music]
- 14:0510 Republican House members who voted to
- 14:08impeach former President Trump.
- 14:11Mr. Trump responded with a quick
- 14:13statement taking credit, apparently
- 14:15referencing the Republicans that voted
- 14:17against him earlier this year, simply
- 14:19saying, "Two down, [music]
- 14:20eight to go."
- 14:23about Friday's podcast.
- 14:25We talked about doing
- 14:26you explaining your decision. Do you
- 14:28still want to do that Friday or do you
- 14:30want to
- 14:31You can always do it before your
- 14:32podcast. Okay. It was great. It worked.
- 14:34I don't It worked better than it ever
- 14:35has.
- 14:38It's It works. Hello, friends. Hello,
- 14:40sir. It's amazing like everybody now is
- 14:42telling me how much they're sad I'm
- 14:44leaving. I'm like, "Why the hell didn't
- 14:45you guys say anything prior to this
- 14:46moment?" Um
- 14:48but uh we still have 14 months and you
- 14:50know, I want you guys to know obviously
- 14:52I'll help support you in anything you
- 14:54want to do in terms of next steps. Love
- 14:55to keep you here as long as we can.
- 14:58Well, just like talking about
- 14:59priorities, is there anything that us as
- 15:01a staff and in this office can shift any
- 15:03focus to or things that you want to
- 15:05accomplish here in the next 14 months? I
- 15:07think that you know, if we can leave
- 15:09here with a bit of a legacy on democracy
- 15:11preservation, like the history books
- 15:13will be kind.
- 15:14You know, it's a worthy fight
- 15:16but I think it's it's a battle that we
- 15:18have to have a bigger we have to have a
- 15:19bigger forum for it.
- 15:36Well, thank you everybody. Welcome back
- 15:38to uh Country First podcast. And it's
- 15:40been a heck of a year.
- 15:46One of the things I really want to talk
- 15:48about to in the season here is just why
- 15:50did I make the decision not to run
- 15:51again?
- 15:54After the 6th, I thought that people
- 15:55would say
- 15:56you know, we're done with this. This is
- 15:58getting ridiculous. And and and what's
- 16:00been worrisome to me as much as anything
- 16:02is just watching that that's not
- 16:04happening.
- 16:05I'm not ashamed of the fact that I'm a
- 16:07conservative Republican.
- 16:09Now, I haven't been the one that's
- 16:10changed. The Republican Party has
- 16:13changed.
- 16:20But as I look at moving on to the next
- 16:22chapter, it is not the end of the story.
- 16:24I think it's the beginning of a great
- 16:26story.
- 16:29When people look back and read the
- 16:31history books, the January 6th Committee
- 16:34is going to be noted in there as the
- 16:36movement that changed the trajectory of
- 16:38politics and saved this country and
- 16:40saved self-governance.
- 16:42We refuse to be the first generation to
- 16:44leave our kids a country worse off than
- 16:46the one we inherited.
- 16:50God bless you all and remember to keep
- 16:52putting country first.
- 17:00Nice. Boom, done.
- 17:03It's crazy how I think the baby
- 17:06recognizes your voice. Really? Does he
- 17:08like, "Yo."
- 17:09He wouldn't stop kicking.
- 17:18You know, look, it's fine to make the
- 17:20decision to like sacrifice everything,
- 17:22but if it's for no purpose, that makes
- 17:24it pointless, right?
- 17:25>> But I think the stakes of failure for
- 17:28you, you were hiding you were hiding
- 17:30from this film.
- 17:32Yeah, I was probably hiding it from
- 17:33myself, too.
- 17:34I don't think that's something I could
- 17:36think about or come to grips with
- 17:37because there was so much at stake both
- 17:39for me
- 17:40in terms of that sacrifice, but also,
- 17:43you know, for the country and the party
- 17:44that I still at that time, you know,
- 17:47liked.
- 17:53You know, some Republicans have been
- 17:54saying that the G-
- 17:57the GOP should play ball on this
- 17:59committee. You could You could get the
- 18:00three.
- 18:01>> Who was that? Adam and Liz? Well, aren't
- 18:04they kind of like Pelosi Republicans?
- 18:06Kevin McCarthy is technically my
- 18:07Republican leader. And to call, you
- 18:10know, members of Congress by childish
- 18:12names like Donald Trump used to do, I
- 18:14guess this is just uh kind of par for
- 18:16the course. Honestly, I'm less mad at
- 18:18Donald Trump than I am at Kevin
- 18:20McCarthy. So, Trump I'm mad at. Let's
- 18:22not I don't want to gloss that over,
- 18:24right? He's the reason all this
- 18:26happened.
- 18:27Um
- 18:28but he's just nuts, right? It's not like
- 18:31That's not an excuse, but it's like it's
- 18:32not a surprise.
- 18:34Kevin McCarthy is the surprise. I mean,
- 18:37look, McCarthy and I were pretty close.
- 18:40I met him early in like 2009 before I
- 18:42was elected. And he was invited us to
- 18:45dinners all the time. He's a great
- 18:46politician.
- 18:48I mean, the guy made it to the number
- 18:50three
- 18:51position in the House Republicans in 6
- 18:53years.
- 18:56And Kevin could be a very charming guy.
- 18:59Like I could see why they were friends.
- 19:03And I remember when we got engaged,
- 19:05Kevin offered to
- 19:10officiate the wedding.
- 19:12What? Yeah.
- 19:18And of course,
- 19:20after the election day, it was all
- 19:21different. And President Trump won this
- 19:23election. So, everyone who's listening,
- 19:25do not be quiet. Do not be Do not be
- 19:28silent about this. We cannot allow this
- 19:31to happen before our very eyes. We need
- 19:32to unite together.
- 19:36On January 1st, the Republican
- 19:38conference big phone call, all about
- 19:41certifying the election.
- 19:44Welcome to the conference calling
- 19:45center.
- 19:45>> Kevin said, "I will be voting against
- 19:48certification." Which actually shocked
- 19:50me.
- 19:51Because even to that point, I'm like,
- 19:53"Well, Kevin McCarthy knows the right
- 19:55thing to do."
- 19:56So, I was the first caller in the queue
- 19:58to go. Your line is open. And I go,
- 20:00"Kevin,
- 20:01you have convinced these people
- 20:04that are trusting us.
- 20:05You've convinced them that the election
- 20:07was stolen. There's going to be
- 20:08violence. Like, you have to tell people,
- 20:11like, this is on you."
- 20:12And he just said, "Okay, Adam. Operator,
- 20:15next question.
- 20:19That phone call was the last time I ever
- 20:20exchanged a word with him.
- 20:23Call full capital lottery. CALL FULL
- 20:25CAPITAL LOTTERY.
- 20:31I WAS ELECTROCUTED AGAIN,
- 20:34and again, and again,
- 20:37with the taser.
- 20:39I'm sure I was screaming, but I don't
- 20:41think I could even hear my own voice.
- 20:45I said as loud as I could manage,
- 20:47"I've got kids."
- 20:49That first hearing, that was with the
- 20:52Capitol Police.
- 20:54I'm pregnant at home. I'm crying and
- 20:58crying, like, the moment they started
- 21:00talking, I just couldn't stop crying.
- 21:04It just hit so much.
- 21:06>> They've got the gallows set up side this
- 21:08Capitol building. It's time to start
- 21:09[ __ ] using and pull me back to that
- 21:11day.
- 21:19So, January 6th, we had agreed that I
- 21:22was going to stay home and that his
- 21:23staff was not coming in, that it was
- 21:25just him.
- 21:28So, I was sitting in the living room,
- 21:30obviously watching the news, and I'm
- 21:31like, "Oh my god, they're they're
- 21:33they're heading towards the Capitol.
- 21:34They're starting to push the barrier."
- 21:39This is now effectively a riot.
- 21:4113:49 hours, declaring a riot.
- 21:46So,
- 21:47I go online and turn on the Statuary
- 21:49Hall live footage.
- 21:55And the moment like someone walked into
- 21:58the frame, that's where
- 22:00I guess I freaked out.
- 22:08I'm like,
- 22:09"They're coming to get everyone."
- 22:12>> [cheering]
- 22:12>> And yeah, Adam is probably
- 22:15a target.
- 22:22I was realizing what it meant to be a
- 22:24politician's spouse.
- 22:28And that the threats are real.
- 22:30>> [screaming]
- 22:32>> Until then, I had never seen anyone
- 22:35physically assault Capitol Police or
- 22:37MPD, let alone witness mass assaults
- 22:40being perpetrated on law enforcement
- 22:43officers.
- 22:45So, the first hearing,
- 22:48there was so much
- 22:50tragedy and sadness and defeat in their
- 22:53stories when reality
- 22:57I owe them my husband's life.
- 23:01And I text Adam, "Remind them they won."
- 23:05I yield back, Mr.
- 23:06>> That was like a second or two before
- 23:10it was his time to give the opening
- 23:11speech.
- 23:13Thank you to our witnesses.
- 23:15Uh I never expected the day to be
- 23:17>> [clears throat and cough]
- 23:18>> quite as emotional for me as it has
- 23:20been.
- 23:21I've talked to a number of you and
- 23:23gotten to know you.
- 23:25I think it's important to tell you right
- 23:27now, though.
- 23:29You guys may like individually feel a
- 23:31little broken.
- 23:33You guys all talk about the effects you
- 23:35have to deal with and
- 23:37you know, you talk about the impact of
- 23:38that day.
- 23:41But you guys won.
- 23:44You guys held them.
- 23:48Thank you.
- 23:49Thank you.
- 23:53Thank you.
- 23:54Oh, oh, by the way, this just in, Adam
- 23:56Kinzinger has won a best actor award.
- 23:58Check it out. You know, you talk about
- 24:00the impact of that day.
- 24:03But you guys won.
- 24:06Did he just bite his lip? You guys held
- 24:08them.
- 24:10>> [laughter]
- 24:11>> You know, democracies
- 24:13are not defined He's going for broke. by
- 24:16our bad days.
- 24:18>> [laughter]
- 24:19>> You know what? He needs a bubble bath,
- 24:21some red wine, and a bar of chocolate.
- 24:25Two reports last night that Congressman
- 24:27Adam Kinzinger of Illinois had been seen
- 24:30crying again. Members of Congress are
- 24:32technically speaking sent to Washington
- 24:34to vote and not to weep. Tonight we have
- 24:35an update on that. Congressman Kinzinger
- 24:37has been spotted crying again, according
- 24:39to our sources, in a place where you
- 24:41rarely see tears, in Waffle House.
- 24:44>> [music]
- 24:44>> You're seeing the Waffle House location
- 24:46on your screen. If you look closer, you
- 24:47will see Adam Kinzinger clearly
- 24:49distraught, crying inside a restaurant
- 24:52that serves waffles. [music]
- 25:03>> Hey you little [ __ ] sucker.
- 25:06Are you Liz Cheney's [ __ ] hag?
- 25:10You two [ __ ] sucking little [ __ ]
- 25:13We're going to get you.
- 25:15Coming to your house, son.
- 25:19Adam Kinzinger, I'm so glad you're
- 25:20leaving cuz you're a piece of [ __ ] and
- 25:22there's my [ __ ] message for you. May
- 25:25the Lord God Almighty come upon you,
- 25:28your health, your family, your home,
- 25:32your livelihood. And and I pray
- 25:35if it be God's will that you suffer.
- 25:43We killed her outside your [ __ ]
- 25:44house, you traitor. We're going to line
- 25:46you up on a wall and take care of all
- 25:48your traitorous asses. I think as the
- 25:51hearings ramp up, people are just going
- 25:53to continue
- 25:55berating our office. You son of a [ __ ]
- 25:58you gave 200
- 25:59>> I mean, over the course of the last 2
- 26:00weeks, obviously his name gets out there
- 26:02more and they just call and they call
- 26:04and they call. Congressman Kinzinger's
- 26:06office, how can I help you?
- 26:07>> We have brand new interns, too. And so
- 26:09there have been a lot of conversations
- 26:11between me, Luke, the interns on how to
- 26:14deal with those.
- 26:15>> office, how can I help you?
- 26:16>> Just expressing to them that look, this
- 26:18is going to like slowly it can
- 26:19completely break down your psyche. Like
- 26:21you might feel great and then a month
- 26:23in, you might just go home and start
- 26:25crying and you have no idea why. But
- 26:27it's because for 12 hours a day you're
- 26:28hearing somebody call you a [ __ ]
- 26:30idiot, uh a [ __ ] a traitor, that
- 26:32they're coming for you. People are
- 26:34getting increasingly hostile
- 26:35>> and a little more scary. I hope somebody
- 26:37like him kills your nasty wife.
- 26:40>> That one's going to Capitol Police.
- 26:41That's it. Should I go to district
- 26:42staff, too? Yeah. I'm a pretty sensitive
- 26:45person.
- 26:45>> have panic buttons under our desks.
- 26:47>> I also didn't have a lot of experience
- 26:49like on the phone.
- 26:51>> We had those checked, make sure they
- 26:52operate well. I think it might be a
- 26:54generational thing.
- 26:55>> The Capitol police came in at the
- 26:56beginning of the week and they're like,
- 26:57"We're going to check on you once every
- 26:59hour."
- 27:00No, Andrew, I think there were like a
- 27:02couple of times, I don't know if you saw
- 27:03me, I was just sitting there crying.
- 27:05>> [laughter]
- 27:06>> I brought you tissues.
- 27:08I couldn't believe that people would
- 27:10treat strangers like that. We load up.
- 27:12No, we do. He literally has a closet
- 27:14full of tissues.
- 27:21Some family drama for Illinois
- 27:23Congressman Adam Kinzinger. This
- 27:24handwritten letter obtained by The New
- 27:26York Times was sent to Kinzinger from 11
- 27:28family members.
- 27:29>> is going against his Christian
- 27:30principles and has joined [music] the
- 27:32devil's army,
- 27:33the letter goes on to say, "President
- 27:35Trump is not perfect, but neither are
- 27:37you or any of us for that [music]
- 27:38matter. It is not for us to judge or be
- 27:40judged, but he is Christian. It is now
- 27:42most embarrassing, that is underlined
- 27:44three times,
- 27:45>> [music]
- 27:45>> to us that we are related to you."
- 27:48Kinzinger's cousin spoke to The New York
- 27:50Times and said, quote, "I want Adam to
- 27:51be shunned."
- 27:55I honestly would never have dreamed that
- 27:58my family could be so crass and cruel.
- 28:03That that that bothered me.
- 28:07Well, my college friends wrote me and
- 28:10said, "I don't like Adam anymore." And I
- 28:12just wanted to answer,
- 28:14"Why tell me that? It's you don't have
- 28:16to like Adam, but you also don't have to
- 28:19tell his mother that you don't like
- 28:20him."
- 28:22Okay, sandwiches are finished. I don't
- 28:24know how many I have, but that's enough
- 28:25and I think that's
- 28:26>> this one over here?
- 28:28Oh, you can eat that one.
- 28:29>> I don't want to until I know why it's
- 28:31over here.
- 28:31>> Because I dropped it on my foot. Oh,
- 28:33yeah. You can have it now.
- 28:35>> Good call. Any of your cousins who would
- 28:37wrote the letter, have you talked to
- 28:38them since?
- 28:38>> No.
- 28:40It's it's awkward. I really don't think
- 28:42about it anymore at all. Except for when
- 28:44I I making out the list of who to invite
- 28:47to the shower.
- 28:59>> [laughter]
- 28:59>> So nice to see everybody and I'm Chalice
- 29:01if you don't remember me. I think most
- 29:02people know me so
- 29:03>> [music]
- 29:04>> and this is Sophia and the beautiful
- 29:06little baby.
- 29:08Your father thank you so much for
- 29:10allowing us all to get here today safely
- 29:13and to celebrate
- 29:14little Christian Adam and we want to
- 29:16pray that
- 29:17the remainder of her pregnancy will be
- 29:19completely uneventful in [music] a
- 29:20wonderful way.
- 29:33I'm so scared.
- 29:35If I have pee diaper I'll be fine. Pee
- 29:37diapers cuz like all my buddies that
- 29:39have kids now they're like
- 29:41Let me tell you about blow outs.
- 29:44And I'm like
- 29:45They're back.
- 29:47Oh, they'll be fine. Do I just dump them
- 29:48in the sink or what?
- 29:50Or just leave it like tie
- 29:52tie a knot in the bag or something.
- 29:57Now I'm taking loot.
- 30:15Okay, so we got all the stuff today and
- 30:17then tonight I have the gay what? Mhm.
- 30:20It's going to be a good day.
- 30:22Yeah.
- 30:23It's always a good day.
- 30:25It's a good day in America.
- 30:28We are using this elevator for members
- 30:30of Congress.
- 30:33My wife and I went and saw Dune. Mhm.
- 30:35It's the first movie we've seen in
- 30:36probably two and a half years in the
- 30:37theater or since the Rona.
- 30:40Great freaking movie. There was the old
- 30:42like movie in the '80s that was like
- 30:44these worms that would eat people.
- 30:47But the new Doom's like
- 30:49I don't know if it's going to be like a
- 30:50trilogy or two or something.
- 30:56Come here.
- 30:57I think it sounds fine.
- 30:59Fine? Not going for fine, pal.
- 31:01Great.
- 31:02You can't just go from fine to great.
- 31:04And he's certainly not going to tell us
- 31:05the truth. But we the reason we don't
- 31:07need to do that is cuz it's totally
- 31:10clear as a matter of objective evidence
- 31:12what that was. I think um it it's useful
- 31:16for us to think about what the
- 31:17difference is in the charge of our
- 31:19committee. Okay, we want to tell the
- 31:21events of the day. He clearly plays the
- 31:23the central role there.
- 31:25So you've talked about, you know, the
- 31:27value of trust and honesty. If you don't
- 31:29have that with your constituents, you're
- 31:30not doing your job, uh even if you're
- 31:32telling them what they don't want to
- 31:32hear. If you're not doing that with each
- 31:34other, with your colleagues here,
- 31:36you're not doing your job. And you put
- 31:38it into a conversation about we're
- 31:41better than this. We're better than what
- 31:43the public discourse has become. We're
- 31:44better than the tribalism that we see.
- 31:47What if What if we're wrong about that?
- 31:54See man?
- 32:06I like this idea.
- 32:12Is that still going?
- 32:33Well, we had
- 32:36quite a long labor.
- 32:38Actually, Sophia had quite a long labor.
- 32:40But now
- 32:43mom's doing good.
- 32:45We're getting back to normal. We are
- 32:47getting back to normal.
- 32:49We are now new parents
- 32:50to one
- 32:52Christian Adam Kinzinger.
- 32:55Hello, Christian.
- 32:57Say hi to everybody.
- 33:07The RNC will be voting on a resolution
- 33:09to censure Liz Cheney and Adam Kinzinger
- 33:12for their involvement in the
- 33:13investigation into January 6th.
- 33:15Resolution to formally censure Liz
- 33:17Cheney and Adam Kinzinger and to no
- 33:19longer support them as members of the
- 33:21Republican Party.
- 33:22All of those in favor of the motion,
- 33:24please signify by saying I. I. All of
- 33:27those opposed, signify by saying no.
- 33:30The eyes have it and the five
- 33:31resolutions are adopted. Thank you,
- 33:33Richard.
- 33:40We have the warm water ready for the
- 33:41bath. Okay.
- 33:49Good job.
- 33:53Dude, he's going to eat the whole thing.
- 33:54Should I just let him?
- 33:57Let's maybe pull it out, yeah. All
- 33:59right. We'll give it to Mom and we'll
- 34:01figure out
- 34:02how this thing will go down.
- 34:04Come on, come on, Mom.
- 34:08Did you know ahead of time that they
- 34:09were going to kick you out of the party
- 34:10or did it come as a surprise when
- 34:12suddenly they announced it when the bill
- 34:13No, I didn't see any of it coming, but
- 34:16um
- 34:16for me it's like they're the ones that
- 34:19should be ashamed.
- 34:20You you are so
- 34:22overcome with like this like childish
- 34:25anger that you can't control
- 34:27because Liz and I make it uncomfortable
- 34:30for you.
- 34:31It just reveals the truth of how screwed
- 34:34up this all is. I mean, not surprising
- 34:36to me cuz they're Republicans.
- 34:39But now I'm just trying to understand
- 34:40why you feel so loyal to this party in
- 34:42the first place.
- 34:43We saw
- 34:46things that you can look back now and
- 34:48say this is so logical where he's gone.
- 34:50>> Yeah.
- 34:51You know, when he was 5 years old
- 34:53campaigning for the mayor of
- 34:55Jacksonville, Florida.
- 34:58We were driving home from church one day
- 34:59and I remember seeing a yard sign.
- 35:02It was hot pink cuz it was the '80s.
- 35:04And I just asked my parents about it.
- 35:07That guy's running for mayor and blah
- 35:08blah blah.
- 35:09And I was just hooked. I was hooked on
- 35:10the fanfare of it at first.
- 35:12>> THE STATE OF ILLINOIS, JIM EDGAR. WHEN
- 35:15WE came up here and lived in McLean
- 35:17County,
- 35:18his involvement with the Republican
- 35:20Party at the time of Jim Edgar Jim Edgar
- 35:22was the governor of Illinois. Did he go
- 35:25to jail? No, he was the one of the ones
- 35:27that didn't. Some people might say I'm a
- 35:29little dull.
- 35:29>> He dressed as Jim Edgar for Halloween. I
- 35:32was 12 when that happened, 12 years of
- 35:35age. I also set up a Republican election
- 35:38headquarters in my bedroom and I
- 35:40pretended like and played election
- 35:43headquarters.
- 35:44You know, come on by and get a sign.
- 35:46But it was my room, so this is my
- 35:48parents going by.
- 35:53>> [laughter]
- 35:54>> He's been serious about this.
- 35:56>> Yeah.
- 35:57For a long time.
- 35:59That was That was so stupid.
- 36:02I remember when he would go out and
- 36:03after it would rain, he'd put out all
- 36:04these political signs. And go dry them
- 36:07off.
- 36:07>> And he'd get on his bike as soon as the
- 36:08rain was over with a cloth and he'd go
- 36:10and wipe off the rain off of every
- 36:12[laughter] sign.
- 36:13That was happening.
- 36:14Yeah, that happened.
- 36:17>> [laughter]
- 36:20>> You were in a debate club?
- 36:24So what did you debate?
- 36:25Abortion in seventh grade. Wow.
- 36:28>> Yeah. What so what side did you take?
- 36:29>> Pro-life side. What would you think?
- 36:32I had to ask. I was a Republican. I am a
- 36:34Republican now. Yeah, who knows?
- 36:37I'm a something. You're a something. I'm
- 36:39a something.
- 36:41How did you choose a political party so
- 36:44young?
- 36:45You know, my parents were Republican, so
- 36:47you know, you're naturally inclined to
- 36:48that.
- 36:49Ronald Reagan was president, you know,
- 36:51he was a pretty inspirational figure. Um
- 36:54What F
- 36:55>> I can't believe you probably hated
- 36:56Reagan. Like
- 36:58three people in this country hated
- 37:00Reagan. Like then you hated him, but
- 37:02then now like Reagan's a good dude. You
- 37:04probably still hate him.
- 37:05>> Oh, for sure still hate him.
- 37:07>> for
- 37:07Ronald Reagan, bro.
- 37:09>> What's so great about Ronald Reagan? I
- 37:11don't know, Soviet Union's gone, [ __ ]
- 37:13like that. He didn't do that. They spent
- 37:15their way out of the
- 37:15>> I think he did a pretty good job of
- 37:17that. He did he wasn't great.
- 37:18>> Whatever, I'm not going to get into this
- 37:19with you because literally if it was a
- 37:21war against Reagan supporters and
- 37:22non-Reagan supporters, you guys would
- 37:24lose quickly cuz there's only like seven
- 37:26of you in the country.
- 37:28Reagan raised taxes, I believe, too,
- 37:29right?
- 37:30>> Yeah, I'm not I'm not like a Reagan guy
- 37:31cuz he didn't raise taxes. I'm a Reagan
- 37:34guy cuz he was awesome. Springtime of
- 37:36youth.
- 37:37Some lights seem eternal. You know,
- 37:39Reagan was president, like Rocky was
- 37:41big. Red Dawn was a great movie. Red
- 37:44Dawn is a perfect film. It's the best
- 37:47film
- 37:48that's ever been created besides Hot Tub
- 37:50Time Machine.
- 37:50>> Thank you. As a kid, I remember sitting
- 37:53in high school daydreaming that like the
- 37:54Russians are attacking. Like the army
- 37:56comes by and they're like, we need a guy
- 37:58to defend the school, and of course they
- 38:00pick me, throw me an M4, and I just like
- 38:03just wasting Russians that are coming to
- 38:04the school.
- 38:05And all the girls are like, "Oh, Adam."
- 38:08>> [laughter]
- 38:08>> I was a Civil War reenactor at 16 as
- 38:11well, so let's keep going. It was the
- 38:13north, by the way. Mhm.
- 38:15It's good Otherwise, I would not have
- 38:16told you that I was a Civil War
- 38:18reenactor
- 38:19just now.
- 38:23And so, I got accepted at Illinois
- 38:25State. I had a friend that said to me
- 38:28like, "You should run for the county
- 38:29board." I don't think he meant it like,
- 38:32"You should run for the county board." I
- 38:33think he meant it like,
- 38:35"You should run."
- 38:37And then I'm like, "Oh, okay." And I
- 38:38ran.
- 38:41I won, and
- 38:43that was the beginning of kind of my
- 38:44foray into politics.
- 38:469/11 happens, and I'm just like, "I'm
- 38:47going to go try to fly."
- 38:49And then I remember in 2006 when I was
- 38:52in Milwaukee, I just gotten back out of
- 38:53pilot training,
- 38:55there was a stabbing incident um in
- 38:57which I had to intervene on a guy
- 38:59murdering his girlfriend.
- 39:07I had left a German restaurant 12:26 in
- 39:10the morning, and I'm walking to my car,
- 39:12hear commotion, and
- 39:14this girl's running at me holding her
- 39:15throat, you know, bleeding out, really.
- 39:19You know, they say in a crisis half of
- 39:20the people run, 40% freeze,
- 39:23and 10% act. I felt every one of those
- 39:26emotions. If somebody would have
- 39:27whispered run to me, I would have run.
- 39:30But, there were two immediate thoughts
- 39:31that went through my head. The first one
- 39:33was like, "If I act, I'm going to die."
- 39:37The second one was, "If I watch
- 39:40this girl this lady die,
- 39:42and I did nothing, I can't live with
- 39:44myself the rest of my life."
- 39:46It was a close grapple.
- 39:49Dude was bigger than me.
- 39:51I had his knife hand, and I remember
- 39:53consciously
- 39:54feeling that knife hand now trying to
- 39:56stab me.
- 39:57And
- 39:59I have to win this. It's not It's not a
- 40:01matter of pride now, it's a matter of
- 40:02life to win.
- 40:05I got him down,
- 40:06and I had made the decision in my mind
- 40:08to kill him.
- 40:10And I was justified in that, but
- 40:13I had no extra arms to do any killing,
- 40:16you know, I I had one
- 40:18pinning his hand down, the other I had
- 40:20his hair and I smashing his face into
- 40:22the ground.
- 40:23Eventually, Megan, who was the girl I
- 40:26was with that night, came over. I told
- 40:27her to kick the knife out. She did that.
- 40:30And the police showed up not much longer
- 40:32after that.
- 40:34You know, they arrest him. I have blood
- 40:36all over me and it was just from him
- 40:37that he got from the brief interaction
- 40:39with her. That's how much she was
- 40:40bleeding.
- 40:41She ended up with 110 stitches in her
- 40:43neck.
- 40:44The shirt that had all the blood, I
- 40:45could I could not bring myself to wash
- 40:47it for some reason. It stayed in a
- 40:49corner in my room.
- 40:51And then it was about two or three
- 40:52months later I started to realize I had
- 40:53some PTSD from it.
- 41:00That moment on that street in Milwaukee
- 41:03utterly changed my life.
- 41:05Do I think I would have been sitting
- 41:07here today
- 41:09talking about what happened in my
- 41:12congressional career or if I even would
- 41:13have had a congressional career without
- 41:15the incident in Milwaukee? Probably not.
- 41:20And now I'm fighting for the soul of a
- 41:22party that I think is going to be an
- 41:24important political party in this
- 41:25country.
- 41:29But if the party doesn't want to be
- 41:30fought for,
- 41:35it's tough to see the light at the end
- 41:37of the tunnel.
- 41:45I mean, there were definitely moments
- 41:46where I didn't want to be there anymore.
- 41:48Like there were moments where I would
- 41:50have wanted to quit.
- 41:52I did not What was the moment you wanted
- 41:53to quit?
- 41:54I mean,
- 41:55really probably that time frame between
- 41:58when we had our first hearing and then
- 41:59we had our set of hearings. If you
- 42:01notice, we had one hearing in August and
- 42:04we haven't had a hearing since. The vast
- 42:06majority of our work on the committee
- 42:09is depositions, meetings behind the
- 42:11scenes. It's an investigation, right?
- 42:20So, despite what you see on TV,
- 42:22we all generally can, when the doors
- 42:25close, can work together well on any
- 42:27committee.
- 42:30But yeah, going into it, I mean, I I
- 42:32think we were very much on edge,
- 42:34everybody, about this cannot descend
- 42:36into anything partisan.
- 42:39A couple times Raskin tried. He had said
- 42:41at one point, "Well, part of our
- 42:43recommendations have to be to get rid of
- 42:44the Electoral College." And we're like,
- 42:46"Listen,
- 42:47we don't disagree.
- 42:49That's This isn't the place for that."
- 42:51He was really trying to push his right
- 42:52to ask questions at every hearing. He's
- 42:55very smart and he'll make sure you know
- 42:57that.
- 42:58You have Stephanie Murphy, who was
- 43:00always defend her right and if she felt
- 43:02she was being disregarded, was clear
- 43:03about that. Elaine Luria, my fellow
- 43:05veteran, you know, really good person.
- 43:08Zoe Lofgren, she was in essence the
- 43:12kind of the bridge to Nancy Pelosi.
- 43:16Bennie, he's the one that can take any
- 43:18time conflicts exist on the committee
- 43:20and really allow it to kind of burn
- 43:22itself out before having to bring it to
- 43:24a head. He gets a lot of credit for
- 43:25allowing Liz to take the lead she did
- 43:29because he could have said no.
- 43:30Obviously, Liz is the bulldog. You
- 43:32couldn't challenge her on the facts
- 43:34because she knew the facts. She would
- 43:36rub people the wrong way sometimes, but
- 43:38she did it in a way that everybody
- 43:39respected because, you know, she knew
- 43:41her stuff.
- 43:46Do you believe the violence on January
- 43:476th was justified morally?
- 43:53Fifth the Fifth.
- 43:54Do you believe the violence on January
- 43:566th was justified legally?
- 43:59Fifth.
- 44:00Mr. Stone, did you have any role in
- 44:02planning for the violence on January
- 44:046th? Uh Uh, once again, I will assert my
- 44:07Fifth Amendment right to decline to
- 44:09answer your question.
- 44:11Fifth.
- 44:12Fifth.
- 44:13General Flynn, do you believe in the
- 44:15peaceful transition of power in the
- 44:16United States of America?
- 44:19The fifth.
- 44:21Problem is in the committee,
- 44:23you know, every day we're kind of
- 44:24pulling finding a new string, right? And
- 44:26if you pull on that string, that means
- 44:28new subpoenas, which means new
- 44:29information. And there's a point at
- 44:31which this thing could go on for two or
- 44:33three years, but uh, if the Republicans
- 44:35take power, which they likely will in
- 44:37January, you know, that's the clock
- 44:39anyway. So,
- 44:41uh, but I think we have a lot of
- 44:42information be able to tell a good
- 44:43story. Not a good story, a bad story,
- 44:46but in a good way.
- 44:48Well, if the
- 44:49if the Republicans take over, they will
- 44:51kill this.
- 44:54We have got a January 6th hearing that
- 44:56is going to start in like an hour
- 44:58focused on something that happened 18
- 45:00months ago. You know, the polls have
- 45:02said people have moved on from January
- 45:046th.
- 45:05That's a frustration leading up to it
- 45:06and it
- 45:07and just is anybody going to pay
- 45:09attention? Breaking tonight, the
- 45:11dullest, the most boring [music]
- 45:13multi-hour Democratic fundraiser
- 45:15masquerading as a January 6th hearing.
- 45:18>> You really didn't think anyone was going
- 45:20to pay attention and
- 45:20>> No, I told you I think the moment before
- 45:22the first hearing I thought it was going
- 45:24to fail. I was worried about it.
- 45:25Columnist David Brooks writes for the
- 45:27New York Times a piece entitled
- 45:29>> [music]
- 45:29>> "The January 6th Committee Has Already
- 45:31Blown It".
- 45:33And I knew that you know, obviously I
- 45:35was going to be judged by what happened.
- 45:48We all kind of line up on that door off
- 45:50the anteroom.
- 45:53And
- 45:54there's a countdown.
- 45:56Because it's timed with the national TV
- 45:58and
- 45:59somebody at the front's like, "Okay, you
- 46:01know, 15 seconds." and we're all kind of
- 46:03getting in line." And 10 9 5 and then
- 46:06two staffers, boom, open the doors.
- 46:11Dead silence.
- 46:14All you hear is cameras clicking, like
- 46:17something like out of 1920s.
- 46:20Liz sat next to me. So, I'm like,
- 46:23is it am I an [ __ ] if I sit down
- 46:25before she does?
- 46:30And I've done hearings a million times,
- 46:32but
- 46:33this had a this had a feeling that was
- 46:35very different.
- 46:44Tonight, you will see never-before-seen
- 46:47footage of the brutal attack on our
- 46:49capital.
- 46:50Those who invaded our capital and
- 46:53battled law enforcement for hours were
- 46:55motivated by what President Trump had
- 46:58told them.
- 46:59That the election was stolen and that he
- 47:01was the rightful president.
- 47:03Now, central question is whether the
- 47:05attack on the capital was coordinated
- 47:08and planned.
- 47:12You know, Trump has only asked me for
- 47:13two things. He asked me for my vote and
- 47:16he asked me to come on January 6th. I
- 47:19remember Donald Trump telling people to
- 47:20be there.
- 47:21>> Personally asked for us to come to D.C.
- 47:23>> why I was there and that's because he
- 47:25called me there.
- 47:26>> Proud Boys, stand back and stand by.
- 47:30Proud Boys, by the president of the
- 47:31United States.
- 47:32"Be there," he instructed them.
- 47:35"Will be wild."
- 47:37This tweet initiated a chain of events.
- 47:40They viewed this tweet as a call to
- 47:42arms. It's either President Trump is
- 47:43encouraged and bolstered strengthened to
- 47:45do what he must do, or we wind up in a
- 47:48in a bloody fight. We all know that. The
- 47:50fight's coming.
- 47:51On January 5th, the night before the
- 47:54attack, you were with the head of the
- 47:56Proud Boys, Enrique Tarrio.
- 47:59What happened? We
- 48:02encountered Mr. Stewart Rhodes from the
- 48:04Oath Keepers, drove down into the
- 48:07parking garage, and filmed Mr. Tarrio
- 48:10and Mr. Rhodes. What you witnessed is
- 48:13what a coordinated and planned effort
- 48:15would look like.
- 48:17All hell is going to break loose
- 48:19tomorrow.
- 48:21Just understand this. All hell is going
- 48:22to break loose tomorrow. We're going to
- 48:24walk down to the capital. The crowd
- 48:27turned from protesters
- 48:30to rioters,
- 48:32to insurrectionists.
- 48:35Mike Pence didn't have the courage to do
- 48:38what should have been done to protect
- 48:39our country and our Constitution, giving
- 48:43states a chance to certify a correct and
- 48:45set of facts.
- 48:49President Trump believed his supporters
- 48:51at the capital, and I quote,
- 48:54"We're doing what they should be doing."
- 48:57The attack on our capital was not a
- 48:59spontaneous riot.
- 49:01President Trump summoned the mob,
- 49:03assembled the mob, and lit the flame of
- 49:06this attack.
- 49:08Washington set the indispensable example
- 49:10of the peaceful transfer of power,
- 49:13what President Reagan called nothing
- 49:15less than a miracle.
- 49:17The sacred obligation to defend this
- 49:19peaceful transfer of power has been
- 49:22honored by every American president,
- 49:25except one.
- 49:33As we walked out, we always kind of
- 49:35stand around talking, there's a little
- 49:36bit of buzz in the room. This was not
- 49:39like a typical congressional hearing
- 49:41where you might see people kind of drop
- 49:42off or or want to leave the room.
- 49:45>> We just sit there and hear what the
- 49:45media is saying, and it's kind of like,
- 49:48"We did good." I've no idea how this
- 49:49will play in the rest of the country,
- 49:51but in that hearing room, the video that
- 49:54was shown hit like a sledgehammer.
- 49:57I think a plant from Nancy Pelosi.
- 50:00It just goes to show we're in a bizarre
- 50:02world a little bit. Hey, that went
- 50:04better than you thought.
- 50:07It was it was a blowout success.
- 50:09But
- 50:11you know, one of my biggest
- 50:12disappointments with Fox not carrying it
- 50:14cuz those are the people that need to
- 50:15watch it. Last night were the 19 million
- 50:17people watched the January 6th
- 50:19Committee's first public hearing. All of
- 50:21the major news networks aired it except
- 50:23for one. Of course, the odd one out, as
- 50:25you can see there in the center, is Fox
- 50:27News. You really should care about
- 50:28January 6th cuz democracy.
- 50:32The overwhelming majority of Americans
- 50:33don't care about January 6th.
- 50:37There are people that have been lied to
- 50:39and abused by the former president and
- 50:41convinced that no matter what facts are
- 50:43in front of their face, he is the most
- 50:45trustworthy person. I don't know how
- 50:47long it's going to take to open those
- 50:49folks' eyes. Uh, but we're certainly
- 50:51going to put the truth in front of them.
- 50:52That's what we can do. That's just
- 50:53that's just such a tone-deaf comment to
- 50:55make uh from Speaker Pelosi. She says
- 50:57nobody's in danger. I mean, we had a an
- 50:59armed gunman show up to to Justice
- 51:01Kavanaugh's house with the intent to
- 51:03kill him.
- 51:04>> And we've just gone through the first
- 51:05day of the January 6th Committee
- 51:07hearings airing last night. What is more
- 51:10important to your constituents in Texas,
- 51:13inflation and gas prices or January the
- 51:156th?
- 51:17Well, inflation obviously ranks way,
- 51:19way, way
- 51:19>> of power cannot happen like this ever
- 51:22again because we will not be a
- 51:24functioning democracy with any more of
- 51:26these.
- 51:27That's a huge audience that we want to
- 51:29make sure sees the the hearings and sees
- 51:32the the facts that are coming out from
- 51:34the hearings. Um, so now they've moved
- 51:37several of the hearings to the
- 51:39afternoon, um, so that Fox does cover
- 51:42them.
- 51:49Okay, I can understand why you'd want
- 51:50Fox to cover the hearings, but from my
- 51:52perspective, who cares?
- 51:54You're not changing anyone's mind on Fox
- 51:56anyway. I mean, you've got Republican
- 51:59after Republican testifying that they
- 52:00didn't believe in the big lie. You've
- 52:01got Trump's Attorney General, Bill Barr.
- 52:04I told him that the stuff that his
- 52:05people were shoveling out to the public
- 52:07was [ __ ] I mean, that the claims of
- 52:09fraud were [ __ ] And I didn't want
- 52:12to be a part of it. You've got Eric
- 52:14Herschmann, Trump's White House
- 52:15attorney. She says, "Well, the judges
- 52:17are corrupt." And I was like, "Everyone?
- 52:20Every single case that you've done in
- 52:21the country you guys lost, every one of
- 52:23them is corrupt? Even the ones we
- 52:24appointed?" You've got fiercely
- 52:26conservative Republican officials from
- 52:27Arizona and Georgia. President Biden
- 52:30carried the state of Georgia by
- 52:31approximately 12,000 votes. Well, then
- 52:34All I want to do is this. I just want to
- 52:37find
- 52:38uh
- 52:3911,780
- 52:43votes, which is one more than we have.
- 52:46Because we won the state.
- 52:49And rounding out the batting order is
- 52:51the what? Pomegranate red Republican
- 52:53leadership of the Department of Justice.
- 52:55The president turned to me
- 52:58and he said,
- 52:59"Well, one thing we know is you, Rosen,
- 53:02you aren't going to do anything. You
- 53:04don't even uh agree with the claims of
- 53:06election fraud." The conversation at
- 53:08this point was really about whether the
- 53:11president should remove Jeff Rosen and
- 53:13replace him. And That's a coup.
- 53:17That's like
- 53:19How did the president respond to that,
- 53:21sir?
- 53:22He responded very quickly and said,
- 53:25essentially, "Uh that's not what I'm
- 53:26asking you to do. What I'm just asking
- 53:28you to do is just say it was corrupt and
- 53:30leave the rest to me and the Republican
- 53:31congressmen." "Just say the election was
- 53:34corrupt
- 53:35and leave the rest to me and the
- 53:36Republican congressmen."
- 53:39Mr. Donoghue, that's a direct quote from
- 53:41President Trump, correct? That's an
- 53:43exact quote from the president, yes.
- 53:47There's obviously been a lot of
- 53:48misinformation out there, but to hear it
- 53:50from Republican appointees,
- 53:53uh people appointed by Donald Trump, uh
- 53:55how he tried to use the Department of
- 53:56Justice as yet another prong to overcome
- 53:59the will of the people, uh it was
- 54:01powerful. Thank you, guys. Appreciate
- 54:04it. So, again, my point is you have a
- 54:05parade of Republicans damning the
- 54:08president's lies, but what's the hot
- 54:09take over at Fox? We've heard it all
- 54:11before, and the hearings are
- 54:13overproduced.
- 54:14>> This show trial is not reassuring
- 54:15anyone. It's a political theater, 100%
- 54:18Hollywood production with all the
- 54:20creative license that would go along
- 54:22with that. Yeah, that's the criticism
- 54:24that comes from somebody that's getting
- 54:25their ass handed to him.
- 54:27Yeah, you could say it's overproduced.
- 54:29Um
- 54:30but
- 54:32it's truth. When that criticism came,
- 54:34I'm like, "Oh, that means you're
- 54:35losing."
- 54:36Okay, but what are they losing? You keep
- 54:38saying that the goal of the hearings is
- 54:39to tell the story of Jan 6. We're
- 54:41talking about a criminal conspiracy, and
- 54:42I don't understand why you're not all
- 54:44over criminal referrals. Yeah, my
- 54:46frustration with it is that it becomes
- 54:48the MSNBC talking point. And I got to
- 54:51ask about this every day, are you going
- 54:53to make criminal referrals? If you talk
- 54:55about the issue of criminality, do you
- 54:57see things heading that way for uh
- 55:00former President Trump?
- 55:01>> And I'm like, "It doesn't matter." But
- 55:03Congressman, can't you make criminal
- 55:04referrals to the DOJ? Yeah. Yeah, we can
- 55:08refer. Where do you stand on that, the
- 55:10referral? What you
- 55:12What do you think about what's the
- 55:13conversation going to be about? You
- 55:14know, we're sitting here showing these
- 55:15things that are happening, and people
- 55:17are like, "Are you going to make
- 55:18criminal referrals?" Like,
- 55:20maybe, I don't know, it doesn't matter.
- 55:22Whether we make a criminal referral or
- 55:23not has nothing to do with whether he's
- 55:25criminally liable or whether DOJ takes
- 55:27it up.
- 55:28So, that was the frustration, because
- 55:30there was so much more to do.
- 55:32You know, one of the things I've come to
- 55:33think about and realize is
- 55:35short of staff members and congress
- 55:38people on the hill, nobody really knows
- 55:41what happened.
- 55:43And not just the violence, but like the
- 55:44stuff that led up to it. But you see it
- 55:47all together and it's like, oh yeah,
- 55:48that's a big deal, you know.
- 55:53It was funny cuz the
- 55:54the guy that had been out outside
- 55:59every morning, so they rotate and it's
- 56:01like 12-hour shifts. So in the morning
- 56:03it's always the same guy.
- 56:05Um so he asked, "How is Christian? How
- 56:08is Christian doing? How did Christian do
- 56:10last night? How is he doing with his
- 56:12sleep training?" So I thought it was
- 56:13funny.
- 56:14They're all They're all invested. All
- 56:15the security is invested in his sleep.
- 56:18Really? You guys have security? Yeah, we
- 56:20do. Uh-huh.
- 56:21In Illinois?
- 56:23Yeah, we've got We had to put security
- 56:25on our house, so they're We have a
- 56:27company that's there basically like 24
- 56:29hours now. Okay.
- 56:31Yeah, cuz people want to kill me, so you
- 56:33know.
- 56:34That sucks, right?
- 56:37Surprise announcement from the January
- 56:396th Committee just this afternoon,
- 56:42stunning a lot of the reporters who've
- 56:43covered this very thing. The House
- 56:44Select Committee on January 6th
- 56:46announced that it would be holding a
- 56:47surprise hearing tomorrow. Uh this will
- 56:50be a surprise witness uh heading into
- 56:53tomorrow's hearing. Let me see. I'm just
- 56:55sitting right there, but whatever.
- 56:56What's up, dude? We met with her
- 56:57yesterday and we think she's she's going
- 57:01to be great. She's a It's clear I think
- 57:02she's got
- 57:04I mean you would you have
- 57:05>> I know her better than us, but uh from
- 57:06having spent time with her but Not
- 57:07really. I've only met her like once or
- 57:08twice. [music]
- 57:09>> Well, I mean from from her telling she
- 57:10appreciates the the consideration that
- 57:12you've given her.
- 57:15Today the January 6th Committee will
- 57:17hear live testimony from a White House
- 57:19advisor who was right there [music] in
- 57:21the West Wing on January 6th and in the
- 57:24days and weeks leading up to the attack
- 57:26on the capital.
- 57:27>> will please stand and raise her right
- 57:28hand.
- 57:29>> is Cassidy Hutchinson. She was an
- 57:32assistant to Mark Meadows, the chief of
- 57:34staff, and she was the right there in
- 57:36the West Wing while the capital was
- 57:38under attack.
- 57:40Based on what she has already told the
- 57:41committee,
- 57:43investigators tell me that they believe
- 57:44that she will truly be one of the star
- 57:46witnesses of this investigation.
- 57:49When we were in the off-stage announced
- 57:51area tent behind the stage,
- 57:53he was very concerned about the shot,
- 57:56meaning the photograph that we would get
- 57:58because the rally space wasn't full.
- 58:00Um
- 58:01and he was angry at that we weren't
- 58:03letting people through the mags with
- 58:04weapons.
- 58:06What the Secret Service deemed as
- 58:07weapons and our
- 58:09our weapons.
- 58:12Ms. Hutchinson, I just want to confirm
- 58:14that that is when you heard the
- 58:15president say the people with weapons
- 58:17weren't there to hurt him and that he
- 58:18wanted the Secret Service to remove the
- 58:20magnetometers. That's correct. In the
- 58:22photos that you displayed, we were
- 58:24standing towards the front of the tent
- 58:25with the TVs
- 58:27really close to where he would walk out
- 58:30to go onto the stage.
- 58:31Did these conversations happen
- 58:342 to 3 minutes before he took the stage
- 58:36that morning?
- 58:37I was in the I was in the vicinity of a
- 58:39conversation where I overheard the
- 58:40president say something to the effect
- 58:42of,
- 58:43you know, I I don't I think I don't care
- 58:44that they have weapons.
- 58:46They're not here to hurt me. Take the
- 58:47effing mags away. Let my people in. They
- 58:50can march to the capital from here. Let
- 58:51the people in. Take the effing mags
- 58:53away.
- 58:55Then they can march to the capital.
- 58:59President Trump expressed to multiple
- 59:01White House aides that he wanted to go
- 59:03to the capital after his speech. We know
- 59:06that White House counsel Pat Cipollone
- 59:08was concerned about the legal
- 59:10implications of such a trip. Is that
- 59:12correct? That's correct. Mr. Cipollone
- 59:15said something to the effect of,
- 59:17"Please make sure we don't go up to the
- 59:19capital, Cassidy.
- 59:21We're going to get charged with every
- 59:22crime imaginable if we make that
- 59:25movement happen."
- 59:27Hutchinson's testimony was such a game
- 59:28changer even Fox News
- 59:31didn't know how to spin it. What was so
- 59:33compelling I think
- 59:35is is how it was laid out. But the
- 59:37testimony in and of itself
- 59:39is really really powerful.
- 59:45Sandra, are you still here? Indeed, yes,
- 59:47I am here.
- 59:50>> [cheering]
- 59:50>> How do you feel about the speed with
- 59:53which the Justice Department is [snorts]
- 59:54bringing indictments of any kind? I'm
- 59:56frustrated at
- 59:58the speed. I know they have a job to do,
- 1:00:01but when you try to overthrow the will
- 1:00:03of the people and you try a coup in the
- 1:00:05United States government, you have to
- 1:00:07pay for that. Period. That's what we
- 1:00:09require.
- 1:00:13It's a weird feeling to kind of
- 1:00:16go out and know that how polarizing of a
- 1:00:18figure you are.
- 1:00:24All of us in politics want to be better
- 1:00:26known because it makes us more
- 1:00:28effective.
- 1:00:30Once you vote for the committee,
- 1:00:32particularly
- 1:00:34once the hearings are happening
- 1:00:37the kind of fame you get is very
- 1:00:38different.
- 1:00:41Your social circle shifts.
- 1:00:43You lose all your friends. You gain some
- 1:00:45new ones, but you don't really trust
- 1:00:46them because they only like you because
- 1:00:48you're speaking out. So until they find
- 1:00:50out you're still conservative, they're
- 1:00:51like, oh, well, you're just no
- 1:00:53different. And
- 1:00:55You lost all your friends? Yeah, I lost
- 1:00:57all my friends. Because you keep saying
- 1:00:59you, but I still have all my friends.
- 1:01:01Like, what is this? Like, you say you a
- 1:01:03lot. Like, what is this?
- 1:01:04>> I think there's a level of protection in
- 1:01:06when I say like you and I'm talking
- 1:01:09about me. Right. There's probably a bit
- 1:01:11of a level of protection in that because
- 1:01:13>> What's that about?
- 1:01:14You go I have come to realize
- 1:01:19in the last few whatever
- 1:01:21weeks, months
- 1:01:23like how much of an impact this has
- 1:01:25really had on me.
- 1:01:31People tell me, you know, what you did
- 1:01:32is heroic.
- 1:01:35And I again appreciate it. It's nice to
- 1:01:37say. I'm
- 1:01:41But I get this sense of like
- 1:01:43a battle in World War and there's this
- 1:01:45tank
- 1:01:46right rolling through this battle.
- 1:01:50And it's getting the [ __ ] kicked out of
- 1:01:51it. Just getting beat up, scarred.
- 1:01:56Rolls out the other end of this battle.
- 1:01:57And everybody's like, look at that tank.
- 1:01:59Survived. Like it's a heroic tank.
- 1:02:02But that doesn't mean it's not scarred.
- 1:02:04And it doesn't mean it's ready to fight
- 1:02:05again. You're the tank. I feel like the
- 1:02:07tank.
- 1:02:08In the battle, you don't think about it.
- 1:02:11All you're thinking about is like, this
- 1:02:13is what's in front of me. This is what
- 1:02:15we have to do. You know, here's the
- 1:02:16committee. Here's the next hearing. Here
- 1:02:18is this report that's due.
- 1:02:20>> [music]
- 1:02:20>> And then it's all done and you're
- 1:02:22sitting there in this tank. And then the
- 1:02:24weight of what happens sits on you.
- 1:02:27And so I think sometimes I don't I don't
- 1:02:29necessarily understand if I say like
- 1:02:30you, it's it you have to psychologically
- 1:02:34I have to psychologically protect myself
- 1:02:37from some of those impacts.
- 1:02:38And that's something I'm working
- 1:02:39through.
- 1:02:43Okay.
- 1:02:44Um
- 1:02:45cool. Paul.
- 1:02:47Okay, can I talk to you?
- 1:02:52Have a donut. I can't be eating more
- 1:02:54sugar, but I will.
- 1:02:58I'm leaving.
- 1:02:59Congratulations. What?
- 1:03:02Um next month, early next month. So
- 1:03:06next week will be well, that'll be our
- 1:03:07last week like in the office together.
- 1:03:09So anyway, I just wanted to let you
- 1:03:11know.
- 1:03:12But I've really enjoyed it.
- 1:03:13>> us where you're going yet or
- 1:03:15I'm actually not going anywhere yet.
- 1:03:17I've been on the hill for almost 12
- 1:03:18years.
- 1:03:19It's a long time. It's like a line from
- 1:03:21Miss Congeniality. Like, I am the job. I
- 1:03:22am the job. And so so much of what I've
- 1:03:24been, you know, the last 12 years is a
- 1:03:26Capitol stuffer. You know, this is my
- 1:03:29my world, basically.
- 1:03:31This job has been, like I said, really
- 1:03:33rewarding, but it's also really taxing.
- 1:03:35Now, you can feel free to cry if you
- 1:03:36want. I mean, just get it all out.
- 1:03:39Whatever you feels best, but
- 1:03:41>> My announcement will be coming soon
- 1:03:42after, so it's going to be a rodeo last
- 1:03:45or whatever. I don't even know what I'm
- 1:03:46going to be screwed, man. That's the
- 1:03:48spirit.
- 1:03:49I had told the congressman Tuesday
- 1:03:51evening. So, I heard the news.
- 1:03:54I know. I heard the news.
- 1:03:57I think we get it. Like, we need a
- 1:03:59break. Everybody needs a break. It's
- 1:04:01just been a lot. Like, rest and and
- 1:04:04think and whatever you feel makes you
- 1:04:07happy, go for it. Thank you. I love you
- 1:04:09guys. I did not cry. So, good job, me.
- 1:04:16I feel like I'm going to leave this
- 1:04:17place in a really like a good spot for
- 1:04:18the congressman. And
- 1:04:20that's all I can do, right? I mean
- 1:04:22Thursday's hearing, it's no longer in
- 1:04:24prime time cuz the NBA games are
- 1:04:25happening.
- 1:04:26>> finish up the race as best I can and
- 1:04:29walk out with my head held high.
- 1:04:32All right. So, this is for hearing
- 1:04:33seven.
- 1:04:33>> Oh my lord. I know.
- 1:04:36Because what you will learn is that for
- 1:04:37187 minute 87 minutes over 3 hours,
- 1:04:40President Trump refused to tell the mob
- 1:04:42to stop the carnage and leave the
- 1:04:44Capitol despite emphatic pleas from
- 1:04:47staff, family, and advisors. What you
- 1:04:49will learn is that President Trump sat
- 1:04:51in his dining room and watched the
- 1:04:53attack on television while his senior
- 1:04:55most staff, closest advisors, and family
- 1:04:57members begged him to do what is
- 1:05:00expected of any American president.
- 1:05:03One week after the attack, Republican
- 1:05:05leader Kevin McCarthy acknowledged the
- 1:05:07simple truth.
- 1:05:10The president bears responsibility for
- 1:05:12Wednesday's attack on Congress by mob
- 1:05:14rioters.
- 1:05:15He should have immediately denounced the
- 1:05:17mob when he saw what was unfolding.
- 1:05:19Leader McCarthy, who I had a good
- 1:05:21relationship with, he told me he was
- 1:05:23getting really ugly over at the Capitol
- 1:05:25and said, "Please, you know, anything
- 1:05:26you could do to help, I would appreciate
- 1:05:28it." You know, they were scared. Think
- 1:05:30about that. Leader McCarthy, who was one
- 1:05:32of the president's strongest supporters,
- 1:05:35was scared and begging for help.
- 1:05:39President Trump turned him down.
- 1:05:42And he kept resisting for another almost
- 1:05:452 hours.
- 1:05:47President Trump finally agreed to record
- 1:05:49an address to the nation the evening of
- 1:05:51January 7th because of concerns he might
- 1:05:54be removed from power under the 25th
- 1:05:56Amendment. Whenever you're ready, sir.
- 1:06:08I would like to begin by addressing the
- 1:06:10heinous attack yesterday.
- 1:06:13And to those who broke the law,
- 1:06:16you will pay.
- 1:06:17You do not represent our movement. You
- 1:06:20do not represent our country. And if you
- 1:06:22broke the law,
- 1:06:24You can't say that. I'm not going to I
- 1:06:26you I already said you will pay. But
- 1:06:28this election is now over. Congress has
- 1:06:31certified the results. I don't want to
- 1:06:33say the elections are over. I just want
- 1:06:35to say
- 1:06:37Congress has certified the results
- 1:06:39without saying the elections are over,
- 1:06:40okay?
- 1:06:43Whatever your politics,
- 1:06:46whatever you think about the outcome of
- 1:06:48the election,
- 1:06:51we as Americans must all agree on this.
- 1:06:55Donald Trump's conduct on January 6th
- 1:07:01was a supreme violation of his oath of
- 1:07:05office and a complete dereliction of his
- 1:07:09duty to our nation.
- 1:07:11It is a stain on our history.
- 1:07:15It is a dishonor to all those who have
- 1:07:18sacrificed and died in service of our
- 1:07:21democracy.
- 1:07:23Oaths matter.
- 1:07:25Character matters.
- 1:07:27Truth matters.
- 1:07:30If we do not renew our faith and
- 1:07:32commitment to these principles, this
- 1:07:34great experiment of ours, our shining
- 1:07:37beacon on a hill,
- 1:07:39will not endure.
- 1:07:42I yield to the gentlewoman from
- 1:07:44Virginia.
- 1:07:46Thank you very much, ma'am. I will
- 1:07:47definitely pass it on to him.
- 1:07:49Thank you so much for calling and
- 1:07:50sharing. Have a wonderful day.
- 1:07:52Bye.
- 1:07:57Congressman Kinzinger's office, how can
- 1:07:59I help you?
- 1:08:00Thank you very much. He'll be very He
- 1:08:02will really appreciate this. Thank you
- 1:08:03very much for sharing. I will definitely
- 1:08:05pass it on.
- 1:08:07It was a big night. I'm glad we did it
- 1:08:09primetime. I'm glad,
- 1:08:11you know, it was a success.
- 1:08:13And and it's not about the entertainment
- 1:08:15value. It was about putting that story
- 1:08:17out in front of people like
- 1:08:20you had a guy that literally watched
- 1:08:22this happen and did nothing. And it's
- 1:08:25like we assume, living in the bubble of
- 1:08:27DC,
- 1:08:29that people all knew that. They didn't.
- 1:08:32Cuz I was totally wrong about the
- 1:08:33hearings. I thought that they weren't
- 1:08:34going to go well. They're doing well. I
- 1:08:36was wrong. I am very convinced that
- 1:08:39once, particularly Cassidy Hutchinson
- 1:08:41came,
- 1:08:43we we have we have altered the course of
- 1:08:45what the Justice Department's going to
- 1:08:47do.
- 1:08:48You were seeming kind of happy.
- 1:08:50No, lies. You seemed kind of enjoying
- 1:08:52the McCarthy stuff. Is that just my
- 1:08:54imagination?
- 1:08:55>> No, that was true. I enjoyed McCarthy
- 1:08:57stuff.
- 1:08:58Look, the guy is like
- 1:09:02I think what the what hurts me a lot
- 1:09:04about McCarthy is that he and I were
- 1:09:05friends.
- 1:09:07And that doesn't like hurt me personally
- 1:09:09on that. I I've I can deal with it.
- 1:09:11But just to see the level of
- 1:09:14of complete groveling he has done and
- 1:09:18the damage he's done to our country uh
- 1:09:21is so disappointing. And it's just so
- 1:09:23foreign to how I think. I mean, I'm not
- 1:09:25trying to sound like Jesus here, but it
- 1:09:27truly is just foreign to how I even
- 1:09:29think. And uh so yeah, when I can expose
- 1:09:32that, it's fun.
- 1:09:37We're going to begin this morning with
- 1:09:38the latest on the midterm elections. I
- 1:09:39want to see this one.
- 1:09:41What the [ __ ] is this thing? Okay. NBC
- 1:09:43News is projecting that Republicans will
- 1:09:46control the House for the next 2 years
- 1:09:48after winning enough seats to have a
- 1:09:50majority in the chamber.
- 1:09:53Jay, with Republicans set to take
- 1:09:55control of the House, Kevin McCarthy
- 1:09:57appears [music] to be in line to take
- 1:09:58over as Speaker. So, what comes next for
- 1:10:01him and the party under his leadership?
- 1:10:03House Republicans have already said that
- 1:10:05they plan to dissolve the January 6th
- 1:10:07Committee
- 1:10:08investigating the attack on the Capitol
- 1:10:10as it stands right now.
- 1:10:12Did you lose in that moment?
- 1:10:22Today's GOP agenda rollout by Leader
- 1:10:24McCarthy was an opportunity squandered
- 1:10:27by his decision
- 1:10:29to once again bow to the MAGA crowd for
- 1:10:32his own political gain.
- 1:10:34I I I'd say ask you just not to report
- 1:10:36this part before the hearing.
- 1:10:38I think we've proven our case. The the
- 1:10:41difficult part of where we're at now is
- 1:10:43wrapping this up, right? How do you cuz
- 1:10:46there's still loose ends, but there's
- 1:10:47some loose ends that we just may not
- 1:10:48know that DOJ will have to try to track.
- 1:10:51Right.
- 1:10:54Yeah, I mean, And was probably the
- 1:10:55moment I lost. And now, you it's like
- 1:10:58kind of the end of the battle, but
- 1:11:00where we sit today,
- 1:11:02when I'm out of
- 1:11:03the combat, let's call it, I've had the
- 1:11:06luxury to go back to the beginning
- 1:11:08and play through it.
- 1:11:11It's like always there's moments in
- 1:11:13history where you're like, "Oh, if
- 1:11:14something would have gone a little
- 1:11:15different." And this is one that's
- 1:11:17haunted me of recent, which is
- 1:11:20after the impeachment vote, there was
- 1:11:22such a moment where nobody knew what was
- 1:11:24going on. I think back to that, I'm
- 1:11:26like, "Wait."
- 1:11:28There was that moment where had we taken
- 1:11:30charge,
- 1:11:32we might have won.
- 1:11:35And I think it's just recently where I
- 1:11:36kind of
- 1:11:37went back, put myself in that moment,
- 1:11:40and I'm like, "Could things have been
- 1:11:41different?" I actually think they could
- 1:11:43have been.
- 1:11:45You know, after the 10 of us voted to
- 1:11:47impeach,
- 1:11:49I was trying to convince the other nine
- 1:11:51impeachers to expand out and basically
- 1:11:54take over for the Republican caucus, and
- 1:11:57I think we could have done it. Like that
- 1:11:59was a immense amount of moral authority.
- 1:12:02Like, let's all join forces together.
- 1:12:04Let's say we're in charge here. Just
- 1:12:07declaring we're in charge.
- 1:12:09We had this idea of being the
- 1:12:11clearinghouse for downtown. Downtown
- 1:12:13being the code word for the PACs to give
- 1:12:15the money.
- 1:12:15>> America's biggest corporations are
- 1:12:17backing away from politics
- 1:12:18>> Because these PACs all made the
- 1:12:20announcement that they wouldn't support
- 1:12:22the people that voted against
- 1:12:24certifying the election. Marriott among
- 1:12:26those turning off money to 147
- 1:12:29Republicans who voted against
- 1:12:31certification.
- 1:12:32>> suspend donations to members of Congress
- 1:12:34who voted to overturn the U.S.
- 1:12:37>> question campaigns are asking themselves
- 1:12:39is how long is this going to last?
- 1:12:42It lasted a whole year.
- 1:12:43But
- 1:12:45you know, they made that decision. Had
- 1:12:47we then taken that decision matrix
- 1:12:50and said, "Okay, we will clear whether
- 1:12:54somebody is pro-democracy or not. Kind
- 1:12:56of what Heritage Action does. They put
- 1:12:57out a scorecard. The 10 of us are going
- 1:12:59to put out a scorecard. We're going to
- 1:13:00say Jim Jordan gets a zero for defending
- 1:13:02freedom. So all that money doesn't go to
- 1:13:04him.
- 1:13:04Toyota hears the 86 Republicans that
- 1:13:08have basically committed to the defense
- 1:13:09of democracy. Toyota's like great. Let's
- 1:13:12give them all checks.
- 1:13:14You could see a scenario where now all
- 1:13:16of a sudden people like trying to get on
- 1:13:17our good side.
- 1:13:19You know, $300,000 raise is the
- 1:13:21difference between I support democracy
- 1:13:23and I don't. They're going to start
- 1:13:24openly supporting democracy.
- 1:13:26Then it actually becomes you take full
- 1:13:29accountability of what happened on
- 1:13:30January 6th.
- 1:13:32You have a mea culpa to the American
- 1:13:33people. Look, we were wrong. People lied
- 1:13:36to you about this. The election was
- 1:13:38legitimate. And by the way,
- 1:13:41here is our agenda now for the future.
- 1:13:42Here is how we're going to focus on
- 1:13:44uniting people.
- 1:13:45Yeah, you would have half of the party
- 1:13:47upset cuz they still got a little bit of
- 1:13:49thing for Donald Trump, but that
- 1:13:50dissipates. In order for somebody to
- 1:13:53hero worship somebody, you have to
- 1:13:54basically keep feeding them material.
- 1:13:57For at least three or four weeks, he he
- 1:13:58didn't say a word.
- 1:14:00And that would have been all us.
- 1:14:03Now you have actually a constant steady
- 1:14:05stream of a positive agenda. The deniers
- 1:14:09of what happened on January 6th are
- 1:14:11outnumbered by the people that say,
- 1:14:12here's the truth of what happened.
- 1:14:15But the people that also voted to
- 1:14:16impeach,
- 1:14:18they just kind of went silent.
- 1:14:21We missed a historic opportunity, a
- 1:14:23historic opportunity to at least make an
- 1:14:26effort
- 1:14:27to overthrow McCarthy, to change the
- 1:14:30future of that party, and instead we had
- 1:14:31silence for 3 weeks, and in that vacuum
- 1:14:34McCarthy goes to Mar-a-Lago.
- 1:14:45So where are we going?
- 1:14:47So this is the departing member center.
- 1:14:50Uh
- 1:14:51It's where offices go to die.
- 1:14:55Uh not actually.
- 1:14:57Every departing member, this is the
- 1:14:58office that they get for the lame duck
- 1:15:00session,
- 1:15:01um which is the session in between
- 1:15:03Thanksgiving and the new year and when
- 1:15:04the new Congress is sworn in, which is
- 1:15:06what we're in right now.
- 1:15:09Yeah, so this is our this is our space.
- 1:15:11This is our this is our cubicle.
- 1:15:15This is the cubicle.
- 1:15:17This is where Adam goes. No.
- 1:15:21The congressman will not be sitting
- 1:15:22here. What? No.
- 1:15:25No, he'll be We have a special We got a
- 1:15:28space on the third floor.
- 1:15:30Yeah.
- 1:15:31Speaker Pelosi was kind enough to give
- 1:15:33us the office, so we're lucky.
- 1:15:39Isn't this cool? We're in this little
- 1:15:40tiny place.
- 1:15:42From the speaker? Yeah. Someone in your
- 1:15:44party has some privileges, huh?
- 1:15:47I I want to get a clip of what Senator
- 1:15:50Durbin sent over as his holiday gift.
- 1:15:54So, wait.
- 1:15:56So, wait, is that it?
- 1:15:58Oh, I'm sorry. I thought you were
- 1:15:59setting me up for something cool.
- 1:16:00[laughter]
- 1:16:00It's like nice of him to send a gift,
- 1:16:02but dude,
- 1:16:04like that's really tiny.
- 1:16:07>> [laughter]
- 1:16:09>> They made a big deal about delivering it
- 1:16:10to us. Of course, I didn't send anybody
- 1:16:12gifts, so whatever. Yeah, but you put
- 1:16:13your career on the line.
- 1:16:14>> Yeah. What did you get?
- 1:16:16>> And I get popcorn for it.
- 1:16:19Like come on, man. Give me something
- 1:16:21better than that.
- 1:16:23Give me a tin of popcorn.
- 1:16:28Oh, well. It's one less thing I have to
- 1:16:29take home. Yeah.
- 1:16:31Yeah.
- 1:16:46>> I remember I I missed my very first vote
- 1:16:48in Congress
- 1:16:50because I thought we could just come
- 1:16:52back to the office.
- 1:16:54That doesn't seem like that long ago.
- 1:16:57But that was 12 years.
- 1:17:00I didn't imagine that January 6th would
- 1:17:02be the thing that would
- 1:17:04cost me.
- 1:17:10All right, ready? I'm ready. Mr.
- 1:17:12Speaker, it's with great pride that I
- 1:17:14rise today to lead this special order.
- 1:17:17For the half hour, my colleagues will
- 1:17:19join me to reflect on their time serving
- 1:17:21the American [music] people and the US
- 1:17:22Constitution.
- 1:17:24These members who swore and upheld their
- 1:17:26oath of office will be remembered by
- 1:17:28history as patriots
- 1:17:29>> [music]
- 1:17:29>> who placed their country over party.
- 1:17:32I move that the committee favorably
- 1:17:34report to the house the select
- 1:17:36committee's final report
- 1:17:38which includes the committee's
- 1:17:39legislative recommendations
- 1:17:41and criminal referrals of Donald J.
- 1:17:43Trump and others.
- 1:17:47Returning from Operation Iraqi Freedom
- 1:17:48and Operation Enduring Freedom, I ran
- 1:17:51for Congress and won.
- 1:17:52While at the time I didn't have a
- 1:17:54family, I promised myself to leave them
- 1:17:57a better country than the one I
- 1:17:58inherited I inherited.
- 1:18:00Unfortunately, Mr. Speaker, I cannot in
- 1:18:03good conscience
- 1:18:04say that I have done that.
- 1:18:07Had I known that standing up for truth
- 1:18:09would cost me my job,
- 1:18:11friendships,
- 1:18:13and even my personal security,
- 1:18:15I would,
- 1:18:16without hesitation,
- 1:18:18do it all over again.
- 1:18:21And even though my time in Congress is
- 1:18:22coming to an end, I stand here renewing
- 1:18:25that promise I made over a decade ago to
- 1:18:28leave this country a far better place
- 1:18:30than the one I inherited.
- 1:18:32Not only for my son, Christian,
- 1:18:34but also for future generations.
- 1:18:39Ms. Cheney? Aye. Ms. Lofgren? Aye. Mr.
- 1:18:43Schiff?
- 1:18:44Aye. Mr. Aguilar? Aye. Ms. Murphy? Aye.
- 1:18:48Ms. Luria? [music] Aye. Mr. Raskin? Aye.
- 1:18:52Mr. Kinzinger? Kinzinger, aye.
- 1:18:54Mr. Chairman, you are not recorded.
- 1:18:57Chair votes aye.
- 1:19:01And last but not least, I need to thank
- 1:19:02my staff, both past and present. [music]
- 1:19:04They have become like family, and I will
- 1:19:06never forget the work that they've done
- 1:19:08in service to me and in service to their
- 1:19:09nation.
- 1:19:12How long did that go? 11 minutes.
- 1:19:14Yeah, what did you think it was, 7?
- 1:19:18The Select Committee stands adjourned.
- 1:19:35It's been like the longest goodbye, you
- 1:19:37know, it's been months where I know I'm
- 1:19:38leaving.
- 1:19:43You can
- 1:19:44mourn about it whenever you want, but
- 1:19:50right now I'm in the mode of like
- 1:19:52just get out of [music] here.
- 1:20:01What the hell's going on? My car sucks.
- 1:20:03It's out of juice.
- 1:20:27It's crazy.
- 1:20:28It's the things and actions that he
- 1:20:30committed.
- 1:20:37See you fellas.
- 1:21:13Any courage I showed just comes from I I
- 1:21:15think saying I always want to be able to
- 1:21:17look at myself in the mirror. You know,
- 1:21:19I had a situation in Milwaukee,
- 1:21:20obviously, where guy was killing his
- 1:21:22girlfriend, and I don't know if I'd ever
- 1:21:24make that decision again, but at the
- 1:21:25time I made the decision to stop it.
- 1:21:27You know, going to war, well, millions
- 1:21:29of people make those decisions every
- 1:21:31day, but
- 1:21:33in terms of the politics of it,
- 1:21:35I I really don't believe what I did was
- 1:21:37courageous. I think it's just I'm
- 1:21:39surrounded by cowardice.
- 1:21:42They don't know it's cowardice, but it
- 1:21:44is. So, then when somebody, me or Liz
- 1:21:46Cheney, speaks out
- 1:21:49in the absence of other people doing
- 1:21:50what their basic job is,
- 1:21:52it appears like courage.
- 1:21:54Okay, I agree. You and Liz were just
- 1:21:56doing your job, and everyone who didn't
- 1:21:57was a coward. But, you know, what
- 1:22:00happened in Milwaukee, what happened
- 1:22:01there?
- 1:22:03That was courageous.
- 1:22:05I I didn't I didn't make the conscious
- 1:22:07decision to do something. It was like
- 1:22:10I guess how I'd been trained to an
- 1:22:11extent in terms of how to think,
- 1:22:15what I believed my moral priorities
- 1:22:17were,
- 1:22:18that brief second of like what's the
- 1:22:20rest of my life going to look like from
- 1:22:22this.
- 1:22:23I made the right decision, a decision I
- 1:22:25shouldn't have made because
- 1:22:27I should have died. Never fight anybody
- 1:22:29with a knife.
- 1:22:32But when you make a decision that
- 1:22:35you to give your life up
- 1:22:44Yeah, I think
- 1:22:46when you make a decision to give your
- 1:22:48life up for a stranger
- 1:22:55I mean, how can't that change you?
- 1:23:00And I hope
- 1:23:02I hope I'm never
- 1:23:03I never want to do that again and I hope
- 1:23:06that
- 1:23:07I don't know if anything if that ever
- 1:23:09happened again to me.
- 1:23:11I'm not sure I'd make the same decision.
- 1:23:17I met her later, like a year later and
- 1:23:20uh
- 1:23:21I don't know.
- 1:23:22What what can you say about that except
- 1:23:25it it's a it's an honor to have been at
- 1:23:27that to be able to act.
- 1:23:30And yet it's like this creeping cynicism
- 1:23:34after like the January 6 stuff of
- 1:23:39why would you try to defend these
- 1:23:40people, right? Like they're
- 1:23:43they hate you. They want to kill you,
- 1:23:45right? Everybody's self-centered.
- 1:23:48And I think that's
- 1:23:50I that's the fight now of my next part
- 1:23:54of life is
- 1:23:56fighting against that cynicism
- 1:24:00because
- 1:24:02I don't want in the second half of my
- 1:24:04life
- 1:24:05to not be willing to put my life on the
- 1:24:07line for people.
- 1:24:09Um
- 1:24:11even MAGA people.
- 1:24:12Yeah, even MAGA people.
- 1:24:14Maybe especially them because they need
- 1:24:18they need they need some
- 1:24:20I don't know, some inspiration or
- 1:24:21something that they're not getting,
- 1:24:22they're being lied to and abused, but
- 1:24:24that's the fight of the second part of
- 1:24:25my life.
- 1:24:27Is making sure I can keep my head above
- 1:24:29water and find that again, find that
- 1:24:31inspiration again.
- 1:24:33>> [snorts]
- 1:24:33>> You just probably need a little break
- 1:24:34first, huh?
- 1:24:37I'm good.
- 1:24:44All right, well, thank you, brother.
- 1:24:45Yeah, dude.
- 1:24:48Listen, if this documentary helps you
- 1:24:50win the presidency and you enact
- 1:24:51horrible conservative policies, I swear
- 1:24:53to [ __ ] god.
- 1:24:54>> Oh, I will call my first horrible policy
- 1:24:58the Steve Pink Conservative Future Bill.
- 1:25:09I got this. I got this. I got this
- 1:25:12feeling.
- 1:25:13It's all right.
- 1:25:15Out of sight.
- 1:25:18I got this. I got this. I got this
- 1:25:20feeling.
- 1:25:22It's all right.
- 1:25:23Yeah.
- 1:25:24Yeah.
- 1:25:25Show me the way.
- 1:25:27Yeah.
- 1:25:29Show me the
- 1:25:33Show me the
- 1:25:39Hulk. Hulk.
- 1:25:42I got this. I got this. I got this
- 1:25:45feeling.
- 1:25:46It's all right.
- 1:25:48Yeah.
- 1:25:49Yeah.
- 1:25:51When I'm with you,
- 1:25:53it's always
- 1:25:55sunshine.
- 1:25:59Yeah.
- 1:26:01Oh, yeah.
- 1:26:02Oh, yeah.
- 1:26:03Good times. Oh, yeah.
- 1:27:35>> Uh can I have a thing of water, too,
- 1:27:36please?
- 1:27:37Oh, you got me a bottle of water. Thank
- 1:27:39you. Thank you, Kyle. Um
- 1:27:41Whatever you guys get or don't get for
- 1:27:43Steve, whatever shortens the amount of
- 1:27:45time we're talking, do that.
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