放送作家はＡＩによって失業するか【第92回 日本未来会議】 — Transcript

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1. 0:00Will broadcast writers go into business
2. 0:03with AI? The
3. 0:03era in which program producers create
4. 0:05programs by bouncing ideas off each
5. 0:07other with AI is,
6. 0:08well, like a shut-in. I don't think
7. 0:10it's possible to leave everything to
8. 0:11this guy alone. If
9. 0:13talented people use AI, it can be a
10. 0:16powerful force. It can really break
11. 0:20down why it's interesting. Japan's
12. 0:29Future. This program is brought to you
13. 0:32by the sponsors you see here. Here we
14. 0:36go. Japan Future Conference. Today, we
15. 0:40have Osan as our guest again, following
16. 0:43last week. Thank you for having me.
17. 0:47Thank you for having me.
18. 0:49Sorry. No,
19. 0:50not at all. So, Kisan, what should we
20. 0:52talk about today?
21. 0:53Yes. Since you asked Osan, will
22. 0:56broadcast writers go into business with
23. 0:58AI?
24. 1:00Yes. The
25. 1:04evolution of generative AI is shaking
26. 1:06up the creative scene. AI can now
27. 1:11instantly create research, plans, and
28. 1:14scripts. While some say that AI cannot
29. 1:19understand human emotions or humor, AI
30. 1:21can learn from vast amounts of data and
31. 1:23generate countless ideas at low cost.
32. 1:28Will broadcast writers 'jobs be taken
33. 1:30over by AI? This will
34. 1:33100%disappear.
35. 1:34Oh, who's
36. 1:37objecting here?
37. 1:39But, these days, a lot of the main work
38. 1:41of a broadcast writer is writing
39. 1:43material for YouTubers. Yes. Yes. I
40. 1:47think that's pretty big.
41. 1:48So, that's fine. It's the same with the
42. 1:51Yasuma program and things like that,
43. 1:53but can I include all of that as a
44. 1:55broadcast writer?
45. 1:56Okay,
46. 1:56all of it. Will the job of a broadcast
47. 1:59writer disappear due to AI?
48. 2:01Those who think it will disappear are
49. 2:03in favor, and those who don't think it
50. 2:05will disappear are against.
51. 2:06So, what is the job of a broadcast
52. 2:08writer? Simply put, it's to be a mentor
53. 2:12to TV station producers and directors.
54. 2:15Oh.
55. 2:16Yeah. Their main
56. 2:19job is to work with TV station
57. 2:21producers and directors and, um, give
58. 2:23them advice.
59. 2:28My job is to give advice to
60. 2:30Noguchi-san's work and improve the
61. 2:32level of Nono's work. When it comes to
62. 2:34broadcast works...
63. 2:35That's right. Now, everyone, please
64. 2:37submit your opinions at once.
65. 2:39Who said they objected? Everyone said
66. 2:41they
67. 2:43objected. Yes. Yeah, that's
68. 2:46amazing.
69. 2:47First, let's start with Kanefuji-san,
70. 2:49who is in favor.
71. 2:50Yes. So, in today's terms, it's like a
72. 2:53program producer, or rather, a writer,
73. 2:55and I think the time is coming when a
74. 2:57program producer of this standing
75. 2:59position will bounce ideas off AI and
76. 3:01create something. And if, for example,
77. 3:03Suzuki O-san, who really relies on
78. 3:05people, were still a broadcast writer,
79. 3:08I think Suzuki Dai-san would just
80. 3:10become a producer.
81. 3:11Yeah. That's what we
82. 3:12should do.
83. 3:13Yeah. So I think the job of a writer
84. 3:16will simply disappear.
85. 3:19Now, let's start with Aochanpe. It's
86. 3:23been said that AI is like an introvert,
87. 3:25but I also update my TikTok every day.
88. 3:27And I'm at a loss for material. So I
89. 3:29try to throw information at AI and have
90. 3:31it come up with something, but the
91. 3:32material I come up with exactly as AI
92. 3:34says it doesn't usually go viral. Why
93. 3:36is that? It's like when everyone's
94. 3:38having a great time and someone in the
95. 3:39background thinks something funny and
96. 3:41throws it out, and everyone goes silent
97. 3:43. It's like a LINE message that's just
98. 3:45a little bit boring, or something
99. 3:46that's a little off. It's like it's 1mm
100. 3:50off the mark. So even if you can have
101. 3:54AI create bashing, you still need to
102. 3:55make some changes to it or have someone
103. 3:57with a good sense examine it. So I
104. 4:01think that AI is like a shadowy figure,
105. 4:03and it's impossible to leave everything
106. 4:05to it alone. I think it's impossible
107. 4:08for it to take over all the work that
108. 4:09humans do. That might be
109. 4:11true for current AI, but AI is
110. 4:13constantly evolving, so I wonder if it
111. 4:15will
112. 4:16surpass it at some point. I don't
113. 4:18know what the future holds, but my
114. 4:20current opinion is this. Yes.
115. 4:22I wrote that Suzuki O will never
116. 4:24disappear, but I've actually been
117. 4:26watching Suzuki O's YouTube videos for
118. 4:28a long time now, and I've seen
119. 4:30episodes where his passion for
120. 4:31producing programs is just too much,
121. 4:33like a crazy tool. When you have
122. 4:37someone with such crazy passion who
123. 4:39leads the show without rest, the people
124. 4:41around them are influenced and the show
125. 4:42ends up being great. AI can't do that.
126. 4:48Of course, aside from Masono's skills
127. 4:50and talent as a broadcast writer, his
128. 4:52crazy passion and insane talent make
129. 4:54people think, "If that person is
130. 4:55working so hard, then we should too."
131. 5:00The other actors, including the filming
132. 5:02producers, get on board, and the
133. 5:03passion for the program builds up,
134. 5:05resulting in a great program that
135. 5:07doesn't really go viral with AI. That's
136. 5:11why I think broadcast writers with
137. 5:13insane talent like Suzuki-san can still
138. 5:15survive. He's had it for a long time.
139. 5:17So many of them have been around for a
140. 5:18long time? I see. It's not
141. 5:21just me, but even people who aren't
142. 5:23broadcast writers.
143. 5:24For example, Terry Ito is like that.
144. 5:26Yeah. That's right, but even people
145. 5:28like Kataoka-san, who I worked with on
146. 5:30the Tamecha series, and even
147. 5:32celebrities, if they didn't have insane
148. 5:34talent, they wouldn't have been
149. 5:36successful. Yeah.
150. 5:37Yeah.
151. 5:37Oh, I see.
152. 5:38Yeah.
153. 5:39Nihon Mirai hasn't gone viral yet.
154. 5:41Maybe it's because Yoki-kun isn't crazy
155. 5:43.
156. 5:43No, we're all struggling. It's true
157. 5:46that Noguchi-san is
158. 5:47crazy about the land and we are the
159. 5:48ones who are being targeted and going
160. 5:50crazy, but the
161. 5:50organizer is crazy. It's not good for
162. 5:52the organizer to be crazy. It's
163. 5:54enthusiasm.
164. 5:54Yeah. That's
165. 5:55true.
166. 5:56Now, Okada-san, please.
167. 5:58I didn't know that, but if you said it
168. 6:00was a mentor, then that means that if
169. 6:02it becomes AI, then everything from the
170. 6:04producer to everything else will
171. 6:06definitely be unnecessary. That's
172. 6:08my opinion, though.
173. 6:09Yes. So, even if it can come up with
174. 6:13small ideas, it's probably impossible
175. 6:16to fill the gap of moving people's
176. 6:17hearts, and that's where AI's
177. 6:19limitations will continue forever. I
178. 6:21don't think it can
179. 6:22move people's hearts, as Yoi-kun
180. 6:24mentioned earlier. It doesn't seem like
181. 6:26AI will be able to do that in the next
182. 6:28five years or so. Ultimately, it comes
183. 6:30down to the fun of learning, and the
184. 6:32real fun is that people who can capture
185. 6:34the times are the ones who have never
186. 6:35done it before, and they think, "What's
187. 6:37this guy?" It's the same with Terry, or
188. 6:40Egashira, who seems to be oversleeping,
189. 6:42and then when they finish one round,
190. 6:44everyone starts to like them. That's
191. 6:47something that AI can't create, and
192. 6:49only humans can create. Well, it's the
193. 6:53same with performers and broadcast
194. 6:55producers.
195. 6:55Yeah. Now, if you
196. 6:57ask AI about Zos on this stage, it
197. 6:59won't do it. Because it would probably
198. 7:01say, "This way, this way, this way."
199. 7:03Hmm.
200. 7:04Most commentators are against this,
201. 7:06right? But Suzuki-san, no, you have to
202. 7:09practice. You can say, "You'll lose to
203. 7:11Air, so kick it." I think this is the
204. 7:13greatness of humans, and it's
205. 7:14not about probability theory. So, do
206. 7:18humans want this AI to be more complete
207. 7:20and beautiful? I like Toshihiko
208. 7:25Tahara's slightly off-kilter singing,
209. 7:27and I
210. 7:28like the annoying way he always hits
211. 7:30fly balls even though he's the fourth
212. 7:31batter for the Giants. I think that
213. 7:36humans will probably continue to seek
214. 7:38that kind of human-like imperfect
215. 7:40difference and incomplete system until
216. 7:42the very end, but if even broadcasting
217. 7:44is controlled by AI, humans will lose
218. 7:46everything. Cheers.
219. 7:51I have a completely different opinion,
220. 7:52but I think that AI's level won't reach
221. 7:54that level. That's also because, in the
222. 7:57end, the main AI in the US and China,
223. 7:59which is open AI, is weak in Japanese.
224. 8:01AI. I run a translation company. When I
225. 8:03was working at a
226. 8:04translation company, I thought that
227. 8:06translation work would disappear due to
228. 8:07AI. On the
229. 8:08contrary, it's increased. Yeah. Yeah.
230. 8:10It
231. 8:10can't even translate. AI is already the
232. 8:13easiest, but that's not
233. 8:14good enough. Japanese is too difficult,
234. 8:17so as long as it's Japanese, it won't
235. 8:19reach that level. It would be
236. 8:20different if AI could create an AI
237. 8:22unique to Japan. But there's not a
238. 8:24single AI unique to Japan right now, so
239. 8:26it still can't translate.
240. 8:27Right now, it's not that big of a deal.
241. 8:29Yes. I wonder if AI will improve that
242. 8:32much.
243. 8:32No, it will surpass humans.
244. 8:34No, in Japanese.
245. 8:36Yeah. Because it can do it in Japanese.
246. 8:38It's
247. 8:38Japanese logic, so in the end, it's
248. 8:40definitely possible. 100%possible.
249. 8:43No, I don't think I can do that. If
250. 8:47you were still working as a broadcast
251. 8:48writer, how would you use AI in your
252. 8:50work? Basically, as a consultant. I've
253. 8:56been listening to this opinion for a
254. 8:58long time, but first of all, what is an
255. 9:00important point? What is a broadcast
256. 9:01writer?
257. 9:02Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And
258. 9:05Japan used to have a lot of writers.
259. 9:07Yeah. Yeah.
260. 9:08Yeah. That's partly because there was
261. 9:11money to spare when it came to TV,
262. 9:13but first of all, there were a lot of
263. 9:15writers, and then at some point, when I
264. 9:17was watching YouTubers, for example,
265. 9:19when Mizutamari Bond became popular,
266. 9:21Mizutamari Bond's Katou would have
267. 9:23definitely become a broadcast writer in
268. 9:25the past.
269. 9:27So I thought at some point that people
270. 9:28who become broadcast writers are
271. 9:30becoming YouTubers.
272. 9:31So if I were a high school student at
273. 9:33that time, I think I would definitely
274. 9:34have become a YouTuber. But it's
275. 9:40interesting, and TV stations really
276. 9:41hate it when you try to take a look.
277. 9:43Like, "Oh, you've reached this level?"
278. 9:45Yeah.
279. 9:46For example, if I, a broadcast writer,
280. 9:48could talk on the radio. They'd say
281. 9:50things like, "What are you doing,
282. 9:51you're just a broadcast writer?" For
283. 9:53example, if I were to do something like
284. 9:55a producer or direct, which is fine
285. 9:57with me doing radio, people at TV
286. 9:59stations would really hate it.
287. 10:01Yeah.
288. 10:01That was the trend back then. Yeah.
289. 10:03That's why
290. 10:05I really hate that culture in Japan.
291. 10:08Yeah. Yeah.
292. 10:09Literature, for example. I really
293. 10:12hate the feeling that in literature,
294. 10:14you're supposed to do this kind of work
295. 10:15, but in Japan in particular, I feel
296. 10:17like that's more the case than the
297. 10:19media. That's why when Abe started, I
298. 10:24asked him to let me call myself a
299. 10:26director or producer.
300. 10:29Yeah. I thought that wasn't what I was
301. 10:33doing. That's why I
302. 10:37thought the culture of really hating
303. 10:39people who tried to step out of the
304. 10:41role of a broadcast writer was so
305. 10:43ridiculous. So if producers and
306. 10:48directors are really good, they're
307. 10:50really not needed.
308. 10:51Yeah. I
309. 10:52think the number of people in that
310. 10:53field will gradually decrease.
311. 10:54Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, when the number
312. 10:57of people decreases, let's say someone
313. 10:58like Mr. Kyūkyoku Akira is in his
314. 11:0020s, and he has the ability to act.
315. 11:03Oh, and he also has the composition
316. 11:05skills. If someone like that uses AI,
317. 11:07it's the
318. 11:08best. I
319. 11:09see. I see.
320. 11:10Since last year, I had to do a drama no
321. 11:12matter what, and when I was asked to do
322. 11:14it, I decided to
323. 11:16study AI as motivation to do dramas.
324. 11:19Oh. So, first, I had AI read all of my
325. 11:23past drama scripts, and I came to a
326. 11:26conclusion. No, that's
327. 11:29exactly what I said earlier, TikTok
328. 11:3501 isn't that interesting right now.
329. 11:37Yeah.
330. 11:38But what you think is super interesting
331. 11:40isn't necessarily the right answer.
332. 11:44So, AI is really useful for increasing
333. 11:46the success rate when you think it's
334. 11:48super interesting. Oh, I see.
335. 11:55So, when I think about what would be
336. 11:57the best way to ask this, I know it's
337. 11:59really
338. 12:00annoying, but I'll write all the
339. 12:02scripts that are perfect. Yeah.
340. 12:04Yeah. Yeah. When you
341. 12:05write something that's perfect, you
342. 12:07praise it a lot, right? He
343. 12:09praises her a lot. Like, "That's great.
344. 12:11" And then he
345. 12:11compliments her, but he also asks her
346. 12:13to tell him her
347. 12:14weaknesses.
348. 12:14Yeah. And
349. 12:16then she tells him. But she only
350. 12:20vaguely understands them, and
351. 12:24people don't really understand the
352. 12:25structure of what they find interesting
353. 12:27. I see.
354. 12:30But then she breaks down the reasons
355. 12:31why something is interesting.
356. 12:33Yeah. I see. And when
357. 12:35that happens, I realize, "Oh, this is
358. 12:37why my writing is interesting." I get
359. 12:41it.
360. 12:41Yeah. And then I
361. 12:44realized that I was doing a drama about
362. 12:46competing with AI, and I had the
363. 12:48actions of that crazy woman appear, but
364. 12:50mine were way more interesting. The
365. 12:55thoughts are interesting, but the
366. 12:56motivations behind those actions and
367. 12:58things like that are pretty annoying to
368. 12:59write about in a drama, right?
369. 13:01Yeah. Yeah. She's really good at
370. 13:03getting assistance with things like
371. 13:05that, or conversations over lunch
372. 13:07before something happens. I see.
373. 13:13So, what's
374. 13:16interesting is that I think of myself
375. 13:18as a human right now, and if
376. 13:22talented people use AI, yeah.
377. 13:26It's a great help to me.
378. 13:28Yeah. And
379. 13:31recently, there's been a movement where
380. 13:33some really talented business owners in
381. 13:35their 50s are working behind the scenes
382. 13:37to
383. 13:39create a lot of apps using AI.
384. 13:42Oh. And they
385. 13:43have experience in creating apps that
386. 13:44they wanted to create, so yeah.
387. 13:46I see. I see. They're really good.
388. 13:48When I watch them, I see that when they
389. 13:49lease apps without revealing their
390. 13:51names, they often become hits.
391. 13:53I think AI is incredibly useful for
392. 13:55people with that kind of experience.
393. 13:58Like I said earlier, if you say, "Just
394. 14:00use TikTok," I can tell that it's not
395. 14:02interesting, but if you say, "I'm
396. 14:04really good at this, but I think this
397. 14:06is a viral hit," I'm good at thinking
398. 14:08about the reasons.
399. 14:09Yeah. Oh. And there's
400. 14:11something I find really interesting.
401. 14:13When you search, yeah.
402. 14:14If
403. 14:14something doesn't exist, it won't come
404. 14:16up. Yeah. Yeah.
405. 14:17Hmm. There
406. 14:18really aren't any really hits in the
407. 14:20world, right?
408. 14:21So, I see. There aren't any that aren't
409. 14:24hits right now.
410. 14:24It doesn't
411. 14:25come up when you search for it. I see.
412. 14:27I see. I see.
413. 14:29But when something hits, it comes up a
414. 14:30lot.
415. 14:31Yeah. Yeah.
416. 14:32So, that Money Tigers was started by
417. 14:35Mr. Kurehara from Nippon Television and
418. 14:37Mr. Horie from Hososaka, and I was on
419. 14:39the show from the beginning, but
420. 14:41now, for example, interesting investors
421. 14:44come up a lot, but back then, they
422. 14:46didn't need interesting investors, so
423. 14:48they didn't
424. 14:49come up on the internet at that time.
425. 14:53So even if there was some content that
426. 14:55would be a huge hit next year or so, it
427. 14:57probably wouldn't come up now, which
428. 14:59means that even AI can't think of it,
429. 15:01so I
430. 15:05think the profession of broadcast
431. 15:06writer will definitely become
432. 15:07unnecessary in the future. Yeah.
433. 15:10Money is going down, and when you
434. 15:12watch YouTube, you can see that if you
435. 15:14can think of content,
436. 15:17create it, and perform it, that's the
437. 15:19best, but I think it's becoming more
438. 15:20and more a genre race. Yeah. It's
439. 15:23becoming
440. 15:23more and more like it doesn't matter
441. 15:25whether it's a performer or a defter. I
442. 15:28think Mr. was the one who started that.
443. 15:31But I feel like there will be more and
444. 15:33more people like that, and Nishino's
445. 15:35producer-like
446. 15:37actions are pretty amazing, aren't they
447. 15:39? But aren't there a lot of people who
448. 15:41say things like, "It's annoying when
449. 15:43Nishino does things like that?" But
450. 15:45yeah. I
451. 15:46think that's because he's so talented.
452. 15:48Yeah. So in
453. 15:52that sense, I think AI can't do the
454. 15:54things that humans can think of right
455. 15:56now, or the things that we find really
456. 15:58interesting, but one thing is that when
457. 16:00talented people create interesting
458. 16:01things, they become really good at
459. 16:03Reuters. But the job of a broadcast
460. 16:11writer is really like that, and I think
461. 16:13that if producers, directors, and
462. 16:15performers use AI, they'll be the best.
463. 16:20And I don't think they can edit things
464. 16:22right now. Yeah. As far as
465. 16:24I know, for example, if you take some
466. 16:26footage and
467. 16:28tell them to edit the footage like this
468. 16:29, they won't do it.
469. 16:31But I think they'll be able to do that
470. 16:33in about a year. I'm sure there's a
471. 16:35future where they'll be able to do it.
472. 16:36And I think it'll happen surprisingly
473. 16:38quickly. That's why I think it would be
474. 16:41amazing if AI could also help ordinary
475. 16:43people edit videos. Isn't editing the
476. 16:47biggest concern for YouTubers these
477. 16:49days?
478. 16:49After all, YouTubers and others find
479. 16:51editing a hassle, and once their videos
480. 16:53become popular, they stop doing it, and
481. 16:54then they end up arguing with the
482. 16:56editors about how much money to share.
483. 17:00That's a very common occurrence. But
484. 17:03editing is really a hassle, so if AI
485. 17:05were to do it, it would be another huge
486. 17:07revolution. And then there's
487. 17:14manga.
488. 17:15Yeah.
489. 17:15Manga can be written based on a certain
490. 17:17proposal to some extent.
491. 17:19Manga seems difficult. Manga itself can
492. 17:22be written regardless of whether it's
493. 17:23interesting or not. But as I mentioned
494. 17:26earlier about translation, I heard that
495. 17:28reading manga is extremely difficult.
496. 17:31Huh? And that's
497. 17:33because, for example, if Luffy punches
498. 17:35someone, they'll fly 10 meters. That's
499. 17:39not a theory. It's a collection of
500. 17:42feelings. I think that's why
501. 17:45I have the most difficulty translating
502. 17:47manga. There are a lot of syllables and
503. 17:50syllables.
504. 17:55Yeah.
505. 17:58I've heard that it's quite difficult to
506. 18:00understand the words because of the
507. 18:02images. That's why I can understand the
508. 18:07nuances in the translation of manga and
509. 18:10words. For example, when I write a
510. 18:13script, there are times when the
511. 18:15Japanese is strange and I wonder, "Why
512. 18:16is this?" There's no reason why it's
513. 18:19like this.
514. 18:20Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
515. 18:21But when I put it through AI, it just
516. 18:23fixes it.
517. 18:23Yeah.
518. 18:24Yeah. And sometimes it says, "This is
519. 18:26wrong." That's what I find interesting.
520. 18:31Right now, I'm probably really bad at
521. 18:33understanding things that are based on
522. 18:35human sensibilities, but
523. 18:39I don't know if it's just a matter of
524. 18:41time.
525. 18:41Yeah. This is just one thing, but I
526. 18:44think the job of a broadcast writer is
527. 18:46going to disappear. In the past,
528. 18:49broadcast writers were given more
529. 18:51recognition on TV shows, but I
530. 18:54think the TV station people probably
531. 18:56found it a bit annoying. In
532. 18:58the past, broadcast writers were listed
533. 19:00first in the credits, but at
534. 19:02some point, the TV station people
535. 19:03started appearing in front.
536. 19:05Yeah. Yeah.
537. 19:06That's because the TV station people's
538. 19:07desire to be witnesses has gradually
539. 19:08grown stronger. I think they're
540. 19:11starting to think that broadcast soccer
541. 19:13is nothing. The fact that there are
542. 19:16quite a few people who think that way
543. 19:18means that they're going to die out. I
544. 19:19see. I'll tell you the inside story.
545. 19:21Oshi. Hey, why is Suzuki-san
546. 19:24such a big name, but he doesn't show
547. 19:26any interest at all?
548. 19:27What do you mean, "he doesn't show
549. 19:29interest"?
550. 19:29Well, actually,
551. 19:30some big names have come. Like Horiemon
552. 19:32. Yeah. He's really showing interest.
553. 19:34Yeah. He's a nasty guy.
554. 19:36Just a little bit.
555. 19:37Oh, I get it. I get it. There are
556. 19:41people who do things that you wouldn't
557. 19:42do to someone who's your superior, and
558. 19:44I get annoyed when they do that, but
559. 19:46when they do that, I have zero
560. 19:50respect for them.
561. 19:51I've
562. 19:52become a huge fan. Yeah.
563. 19:55Thank you. But even now, even though
564. 19:59they said they'd stopped doing
565. 20:01broadcasts, and they're currently doing
566. 20:03stage plays, they still love their job
567. 20:09as broadcast writers. Broadcast writers
568. 20:12love their jobs, but isn't it a
569. 20:14different story when they disappear?
570. 20:17Yeah.
571. 20:18So I think we need to be strict about
572. 20:19that.
573. 20:20Yeah. I think we need to show them love
574. 20:22, and when
575. 20:24young people, and not just young people
576. 20:27, have these kinds of opinions, I think
577. 20:29, "Oh, I see."
578. 20:32Yeah. I think so too.
579. 20:34Esa is funny and really annoying,
580. 20:38but even annoying opinions stay in your
581. 20:40mind. I get it.
582. 20:41No, it's not. I
583. 20:43think, "What the heck is this?" But
584. 20:45it's true that they stay in your mind.
585. 20:49That's young. Their
586. 20:50ideas are
587. 20:52incredibly flexible. People who have
588. 20:56achieved some level of success tend to
589. 20:57cling to that, or rather, they've
590. 20:59always had this power, but they're also
591. 21:01learning a lot of new things.
592. 21:03Yeah.
593. 21:04Yeah. That's
594. 21:05amazing. I really don't
595. 21:07know what's going to happen next year.
596. 21:09For example, what are you doing? What
597. 21:11do you do for work? I'm on
598. 21:12YouTube and in management.
599. 21:14Yeah. So, for example, next year, with
600. 21:16all sorts of things happening, it could
601. 21:18be the seeds of an incredibly huge
602. 21:20company.
603. 21:23Yeah. Yeah.
604. 21:24Yeah. And then, something happens, like
605. 21:27when she starts using TikTok, and it
606. 21:30could go viral.
607. 21:32But it really could happen.
608. 21:33Yeah.
609. 21:34Yeah. After all, a song by UoKushion
610. 21:37from 14 years ago could suddenly go
611. 21:39viral worldwide, isn't it?
612. 21:42That's right.
613. 21:42So what are you doing now that you're
614. 21:44over 50, Igu?
615. 21:45Oh, yeah, designing and stuff. But what
616. 21:48you're doing now is amazing. Maybe the
617. 21:52moment you decide to do something new,
618. 21:54there's a non-zero chance that
619. 21:55something big will happen. So I've seen
620. 22:01a lot of people suddenly become
621. 22:02successful in a year, or entrepreneurs,
622. 22:04and they came to me with their
623. 22:05computers and said, "I want to explain
624. 22:07this to you." When I opened my computer
625. 22:11, I
626. 22:11thought it was about the business I
627. 22:13wanted to run, but it said, "I want to
628. 22:14be a great person." Yes.
629. 22:16But,
630. 22:16yes. And then, after
631. 22:18starting their business, they were
632. 22:20doing really well in about two years.
633. 22:22Yeah. Huh.
634. 22:23But people who have that kind of pain,
635. 22:25yes. Right. That's what I
636. 22:27said was a crazy tool, and that's
637. 22:28exactly what's important.
638. 22:30When you get passionate about something
639. 22:32and start
640. 22:33moving forward, your current situation
641. 22:35can change in three months. Yeah. So
642. 22:40why are there so many young people like
643. 22:42that? Well, there are
644. 22:44really moments when miracles happen.
645. 22:47Hmm, hmm, yeah.
646. 22:48I've seen
647. 22:49that happen over and over again, so I
648. 22:51see. Well, including in the
649. 22:53entertainment industry, I think I'd
650. 22:55rank pretty high in the rankings of
651. 22:57miracles I've seen. So I really
652. 22:59believe in miracles. I
653. 23:00believe in miracles. I
654. 23:02want to believe in miracles.
655. 23:05That's why when I made the program, I
656. 23:07said I wanted to believe in miracles,
657. 23:09but that only applies to people who
658. 23:10seem like they could create miracles. I
659. 23:14just feel like it would be a sin for us
660. 23:16not to do it for people who seem like
661. 23:17they could create miracles. It might be
662. 23:21interesting if I told them to say this,
663. 23:23but I want to see things that I've
664. 23:24never seen before. It's not about
665. 23:27creating it myself, it's about the
666. 23:28future of everyone here today. The
667. 23:30future will actually turn out like this
668. 23:32in a year, or Jaou-san will become the
669. 23:35governor of Tokyo in two years. Yeah,
670. 23:40whatever. It's not
671. 23:43zero, though. If Otake-san does
672. 23:46something from now on, her popularity
673. 23:48will skyrocket again.
674. 23:50But that's definitely not zero.
675. 23:51Yeah. So, it's interesting and
676. 23:54life-like. There was something I
677. 23:56experienced a little bit in my past
678. 23:57year, about what Jaou-san said. In
679. 23:59January of last year, a young person
680. 24:01asked me if they could make a short
681. 24:03video about Otake-san. I thought it
682. 24:06would be nice since I already had an
683. 24:07account, so I said I wanted to do it
684. 24:09for overseas. I wanted to spread the
685. 24:19word about this overly positive old man
686. 24:21with no arms or legs.
687. 24:24Well, I also thought I'd leave it to
688. 24:26the sensibilities of young people with
689. 24:27Hanshin Hangi, and the one that's been
690. 24:29spinning the most right now is 150
691. 24:31million. 150 million is
692. 24:33amazing. It's interesting to leave it
693. 24:35to the red guy, and you never know
694. 24:37what's going to happen in a year. And
695. 24:38when I go overseas, I get approached a
696. 24:40lot. They ask me if I'm on TikTok,
697. 24:43TikTok.
698. 24:43No, they really are. And then again,
699. 24:46in Japan, we're really vulnerable to
700. 24:48black ships. Everyone is attracted to
701. 24:49those who produce results overseas. So
702. 24:51you never know what's going to happen.
703. 24:53It's a
704. 24:53great learning experience. And earlier,
705. 24:57the person next to me said something
706. 24:58like, "The moat is empty and the pond
707. 25:00is empty," but that person's humility
708. 25:02comes from believing in miracles,
709. 25:04whether they're young or not. Stop
710. 25:07hating Horie.
711. 25:10Just listen to me. I
712. 25:13said earlier that I only believe in
713. 25:14miracles in people who can make
714. 25:16miracles happen. I'd like to hear how
715. 25:20you distinguish between those who seem
716. 25:22like they could perform miracles and
717. 25:24those who are just kids, who don't seem
718. 25:26like they could.
719. 25:29When
720. 25:33SMAP disbanded, I lost my adrenaline.
721. 25:36Oh,
722. 25:38and they really did perform many
723. 25:40miracles.
724. 25:42Yeah. Yeah.
725. 25:43For example, the most surprising thing
726. 25:44was when they did the 27-hour TV
727. 25:45program and they were supposed to
728. 25:46perform a live show in front of 5,000
729. 25:47people at the end, but they said they
730. 25:49couldn't because of a typhoon. Yeah.
731. 25:50Three hours before the show, the
732. 25:52typhoon passed. I see. And they
733. 25:54said they couldn't do the research
734. 25:56volunteer work either,
735. 25:57but they did. But we didn't
736. 26:01give up until the very end. I think
737. 26:04everyone's feelings were heard, but
738. 26:05there were also times when they
739. 26:08decided to quit right away. But no, I
740. 26:12guess that part of believing until the
741. 26:14end fits that picture.
742. 26:18I see. That's right. Yeah.
743. 26:20When Bad Hop disbanded and I offered to
744. 26:23give him 10 million yen, T Pablo lost
745. 26:25money gambling in Korea and wanted to
746. 26:27go again, so I withdrew 1 million yen
747. 26:29from my pocket and gave it to him.
748. 26:32But he
749. 26:33really did come back with 10 million
750. 26:35yen.
751. 26:36I see. So why is it? Maybe it's because
752. 26:38I get excited about it.
753. 26:40Yeah. In the person? In what they do?
754. 26:42Which is it? It might be in what they
755. 26:45do, but I also get excited when I give
756. 26:47them 1 million yen or when I hear that
757. 26:49a typhoon is coming and it might not.
758. 26:54Maybe I invest because I like phenomena
759. 26:57, including people's images. Yeah.
760. 27:00That's
761. 27:00true. To be
762. 27:02honest, I used to underestimate
763. 27:03broadcast writers. This is a really
764. 27:05rude thing to say. I get it, I get it.
765. 27:07They're people who get looked down on.
766. 27:09Because
767. 27:09unpopular comedians always lose. That's
768. 27:13why I underestimated
769. 27:14broadcast writers, so I'd like to
770. 27:16apologize on behalf of everyone. I'm
771. 27:19sorry.
772. 27:20Why doesn't everyone think so?
773. 27:22Sorry. Yes.
774. 27:23So, Mr. Noguchi, what did you think of
775. 27:25the various things we discussed with
776. 27:27everyone?
777. 27:28Today's topic at the Japan Future
778. 27:30Conference is this. Solve the shortage
779. 27:33of call center workers with AI. There's
780. 27:36no way that current AI technology can
781. 27:38handle the complexities of call center
782. 27:40operations. It
783. 27:41can't. We don't need that at all.
784. 27:43I'll handle everything. Don't make a
785. 27:45mistake.
786. 27:46Mr. Noguchi, please give the final vote
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788. 27:49Approved.
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790. 27:50Yes,
791. 27:51Callways can solve both the technical
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798. 28:10Mr. Noguchi, what did you think of the
799. 28:12various things we discussed with
800. 28:14everyone? The path you've walked is
801. 28:16truly amazing. It's really interesting
802. 28:19how well you can put things into words,
803. 28:21and the details are so deep. I think
804. 28:24people who are really into that kind of
805. 28:26thing tend to have really heavy words.
806. 28:30By the way, if we're just talking about
807. 28:32this topic, I'm not really sure what
808. 28:34the answer was, but I guess it's still
809. 28:36a crazy tool. It can be replaced by AI,
810. 28:40but the
811. 28:41good thing about it is that it's
812. 28:42genre-less. Yeah. Yeah. So writing will
813. 28:44disappear and most of it will remain
814. 28:46the same, but probably jobs up to
815. 28:48around 60 in the standard deviation can
816. 28:50be done by AI, but all
817. 28:52writing is fine, so the job of
818. 28:53broadcast writer will be done by AI,
819. 28:56but I think the
820. 28:58crazy tool that broadcast writers have
821. 29:00will not lose to AI. Right now, it's
822. 29:04all genres. People who have a
823. 29:06competition, and AI will create the
824. 29:08common sense part here, and if you use
825. 29:10that crazy tool to make it interesting,
826. 29:12you can get something that gets 75
827. 29:14points. That's AI's specialty,
828. 29:16including music.
829. 29:17Yeah. Right.
830. 29:18Yeah. But for things that get 101 or
831. 29:20120 points, you know, when you
832. 29:23really feel like a stalker and you play
833. 29:25the song that you're performing, right?
834. 29:28Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. So that's
835. 29:31exactly madness.
836. 29:32The Japan Future Conference said that
837. 29:33what was missing was madness. It's
838. 29:34madness.
839. 29:35It's Nobu's competition. I
840. 29:37can't do it alone.
841. 29:38Well, us.
842. 29:39Ours,
843. 29:39or maybe Mr. Sake. If there are any
844. 29:44viewers who are parents listening to me
845. 29:46today, I would like to convey this
846. 29:47message to them. I think it's easy to
847. 29:52feel anxious when your child deviates
848. 29:54greatly from everyone else. You may
849. 29:58want them to be the same as everyone
850. 30:00else, and you may want them to be the
851. 30:01same, but I think that approach is
852. 30:03probably a value policy from an era
853. 30:05before AI. I think you've understood
854. 30:09this after listening to me today, but
855. 30:11since A will do everything that
856. 30:12everyone else does, I think we're
857. 30:14entering an era where those who can
858. 30:15create something different will survive
859. 30:22. So if you think you want to be
860. 30:24different, I think it might be better
861. 30:25to stay different and give it a try.
862. 30:27That's what I wanted to convey. That's
863. 30:31a good idea. Oh, that's right. So, we
864. 30:35welcomed Suzuki-san, and we've
865. 30:37delivered this over two weeks. Thank
866. 30:39you for today, Mr. Sake. Thank you very
867. 30:41much.
868. 30:41Now, everyone, please give this video a
869. 30:43thumbs up and
870. 30:44subscribe to the channel. Goodbye.
871. 30:48Everyone, please listen. The number of
872. 30:51subscribers to the Japan Future
873. 30:53Conference channel has surpassed 25,000
874. 30:55.
875. 30:56Amazing. Amazing.
876. 31:00And thanks to you, we've seen an
877. 31:02increase of 10,000 in just the last 28
878. 31:04days, which is amazing, but only
879. 31:107%of people are actually subscribing to
880. 31:12the channel and watching.
881. 31:14Huh? That's so few?
882. 31:15Yeah. Isn't that
883. 31:16terrible? Please subscribe to the
884. 31:19channel and give it a thumbs up.
885. 31:21Please. Let's get to
886. 31:22100,000. Let's start a political party
887. 31:26that will reform Japan using the
888. 31:28salaries of local assembly members.
889. 31:29Local assembly members are unnecessary,
890. 31:31so we don't need those kinds of people.
891. 31:33That's
892. 31:3310 million yen per person. That means
893. 31:36100 people will earn 1 billion yen in a
894. 31:38year. We can use that money to
895. 31:41revitalize local areas.