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  1. 0:01Sanae Takaichi must have a real headache
  2. 0:03now; what happened?
  3. 0:06Putin signed two consecutive
  4. 0:07presidential decrees to take over seven
  5. 0:09Japanese companies.
  6. 0:15Right, the latest news is that on
  7. 0:17November 5, Putin signed a decree to
  8. 0:19place four Russian subsidiaries of the
  9. 0:21Japan Tobacco group under temporary
  10. 0:23state management.
  11. 0:28Then, just one day later on November 6,
  12. 0:30he signed another order to place the
  13. 0:32full shares and assets of three other
  14. 0:34related companies under temporary
  15. 0:36management.
  16. 0:37Oh, I see. Regarding this temporary
  17. 0:40management, who actually has the
  18. 0:41authority to lift it?
  19. 0:43Only Putin himself.
  20. 0:45So, these seven Japanese tobacco-related
  21. 0:47businesses are actually quite profitable
  22. 0:49, yet they've all been taken over by the
  23. 0:51Russian authorities.
  24. 0:53Let’s ask Professor Yang: Professor, how
  25. 0:55do you view this incident?
  26. 0:58>> This is a response to the Japanese
  27. 1:00government passing its 13th round early
  28. 1:02last month, on October 2nd.
  29. 1:05>> The 13th round?
  30. 1:09>> Yes, the 13th round of additional
  31. 1:11sanctions against Russia, targeting 102
  32. 1:14types of products, including scrap metal
  33. 1:16and plastics, banning their export from
  34. 1:19Japan to Russia starting October 2nd.
  35. 1:23>> Hmm.
  36. 1:24>> If you look at the time from the start
  37. 1:25of the Russia-Ukraine war until now,
  38. 1:27that’s four years and eight months, and
  39. 1:29Japan’s sanctioned items have already
  40. 1:31exceeded 1,900.
  41. 1:31>> Hmm.
  42. 1:33>> So, given the situation in Japan last
  43. 1:35month—especially by October 2 nd—you can
  44. 1:38see the developments between Trump and
  45. 1:40Putin; I don't understand why Japan felt
  46. 1:42the need to keep pushing sanctions at
  47. 1:44that time.
  48. 1:49And then, of course, at the beginning of
  49. 1:51this month, Putin began his response,
  50. 1:53which is to say, targeting these four
  51. 1:55related Japanese tobacco business
  52. 1:57entities in Russia and initiating what
  53. 1:59is effectively...
  54. 2:03>> A temporary takeover.
  55. 2:05>> Temporary management, temporary
  56. 2:06management.
  57. 2:08This is the company JTI, Japan Tobacco
  58. 2:10International, primarily in Saint
  59. 2:13Petersburg, hmm.
  60. 2:14>> And also the Leningrad Oblast.
  61. 2:16>> Hmm.
  62. 2:17>> These places are where they primarily
  63. 2:19handled the tobacco business near the
  64. 2:20European side, and now they've been
  65. 2:22taken over.
  66. 2:22>> Naturally, Japan lodged a strong protest
  67. 2:25, or rather, Japan is protesting.
  68. 2:27>> However, I noticed that Japanese news
  69. 2:29reports don't mention that just a month
  70. 2:31ago, Japan itself implemented the 13th
  71. 2:33wave of sanctions against Russia.
  72. 2:35Oh, you're right; I didn't see it either
  73. 2:37. I checked the news wire services, and
  74. 2:39none of them wrote about it.
  75. 2:41>> Because back then, they focused on those
  76. 2:43100-plus items, which included important
  77. 2:46materials like scrap metal and plastics
  78. 2:48, bringing the total to over 1,900—
  79. 2:50nearly 2,000—products.
  80. 2:53The war has reached a point where
  81. 2:55everyone is preparing to negotiate, and
  82. 2:57the U.S. has started making efforts.
  83. 3:00>> Given that both sides have expressed
  84. 3:02this stance, why is Japan still choosing
  85. 3:04to increase sanctions on Russia at this
  86. 3:06time?
  87. 3:07Where did this decision come from?
  88. 3:10Why would they have such an attitude?
  89. 3:13Because the U.S. is no longer expanding
  90. 3:15these kinds of sanctions, and as for
  91. 3:17current expansion, I don’t see South
  92. 3:19Korea doing it either.
  93. 3:25Perhaps the EU is doing it, so Japan
  94. 3:27might be following the EU's lead, but
  95. 3:29the EU is basically in total opposition
  96. 3:31to Russia now.
  97. 3:36So, you can see this as a diplomatic
  98. 3:38misstep by Japan itself, inviting
  99. 3:40counter-measures.
  100. 3:43When the media reports on these
  101. 3:45counter-measures, it makes it look like
  102. 3:47Russia is acting unilaterally, when in
  103. 3:49fact, it stems from Japan’s own actions
  104. 3:51.
  105. 3:55Especially now that you see the changes
  106. 3:57in U.S.-Russia relations, the summit
  107. 3:59next week on the 18th and 19 th—if the
  108. 4:01U.S. and Russia hold a bilateral summit
  109. 4:03, will they discuss the Russian issue?
  110. 4:07>> I think it’s very possible.
  111. 4:09>> Because when a war reaches this point,
  112. 4:10you really have to find a way to lead it
  113. 4:12toward an end through negotiations.
  114. 4:14Mm-hmm.
  115. 4:15>> Could there even be a trilateral meeting
  116. 4:16between China, the U.S., and Russia? I
  117. 4:18think the possibility is getting higher
  118. 4:20and higher.
  119. 4:20>> Trump says it will happen.
  120. 4:21>> Right.
  121. 4:22>> Yes, there is a latest update from Trump
  122. 4:24regarding a China-U.S. -Russia
  123. 4:25trilateral meeting.
  124. 4:26>> If Trump is so confident in saying it
  125. 4:28will happen, I think mainland China must
  126. 4:30have responded that they are preparing
  127. 4:31for it, because Putin has already said
  128. 4:33it three times, stating that it will
  129. 4:35happen and is currently being planned.
  130. 4:36>> Right.
  131. 4:38He must have received word from Beijing
  132. 4:40that it would happen.
  133. 4:44From Beijing's perspective, acting as
  134. 4:46the host for such an unprecedented
  135. 4:48China-U.S.
  136. 4:51-Russia trilateral summit in Shenzhen
  137. 4:53would be a diplomatic win for China.
  138. 4:56>> Mm-hmm.
  139. 4:57>> Oh. The specific topics being discussed
  140. 5:00don't really matter.
  141. 5:02I call this trilateral structure the "
  142. 5:04Shenzhen Framework."
  143. 5:07It’s not Yalta, not Yalta 2.0, because
  144. 5:10you can't compare the two eras.
  145. 5:13>> Therefore, if this China-U.S.
  146. 5:16-Russia "Shenzhen Framework" begins to
  147. 5:18take shape, it would represent a new
  148. 5:20geopolitical landscape for the great
  149. 5:22powers.
  150. 5:25In this great power landscape, the Iran
  151. 5:27issue will surely become a non-issue.
  152. 5:30Mm-hmm.
  153. 5:31>> Since the U.S.-Russia war is their
  154. 5:33primary focus, this summit will be very
  155. 5:35busy with China-U.S. -Russia trilateral
  156. 5:38talks,
  157. 5:38>> as well as many important bilateral
  158. 5:40meetings.
  159. 5:40>> Yes.
  160. 5:41>> So, whether Takaichi can go or not, it
  161. 5:43seems even if she could, Putin wouldn't
  162. 5:44pay any attention to her.
  163. 5:46>> Ah, yes. Good. Let me follow up with
  164. 5:48Professor Yang. Now, about Takaichi...
  165. 5:50>> Although the outside world is very
  166. 5:52concerned about whether she can actually
  167. 5:53go, she made a move at this moment: she
  168. 5:55announced she wants to meet Kim Jong Un
  169. 5:56. Why does she want to meet Kim Jong Un
  170. 5:58? Actually, Kim Yo Jong had already made
  171. 6:00it clear before that North Korea's
  172. 6:02leadership has no intention of meeting
  173. 6:04with Japan. But why do you think
  174. 6:06Takaichi is calling for a meeting with
  175. 6:07Kim Jong Un at this time, and even
  176. 6:09claiming she has Trump's support?
  177. 6:11>> Everyone, these past two days.
  178. 6:13>> Yes.
  179. 6:13>> There is an important occasion in Japan
  180. 6:15.
  181. 6:15>> Mhm.
  182. 6:16>> And quite a lot of people are
  183. 6:17participating.
  184. 6:18>> Mhm.
  185. 6:19>> That is, the 50th anniversary of the
  186. 6:22abduction issue.
  187. 6:23>> Oh, the abduction issue, I see.
  188. 6:26Starting from the 70s, North Korea
  189. 6:28specifically abducted Japanese citizens
  190. 6:31, particularly from the northeastern
  191. 6:33region of Japan.
  192. 6:36>> Mhm.
  193. 6:37>> Both men and women.
  194. 6:38>> Mhm.
  195. 6:39>> Students as well.
  196. 6:41We are not sure exactly how many people
  197. 6:43.
  198. 6:44North Korea claims there were over 100.
  199. 6:47Some have returned to Japan, some went
  200. 6:49over, and some married and didn't want
  201. 6:51to leave, staying behind.
  202. 6:54Yes.
  203. 6:54>> Japan's figures are obviously much
  204. 6:56higher, several times that.
  205. 6:59>> In the past, from the 90s all the way to
  206. 7:01the 2010s, it has always been a very
  207. 7:03heated issue in Japan.
  208. 7:06>> Mhm.
  209. 7:07>> But recently, there's been another
  210. 7:09opportunity to say, "Do not forget."
  211. 7:12They call it "Rachi.""Chimondai."
  212. 7:14>> That is the so-called abduction issue.
  213. 7:16Mhm.
  214. 7:17>> So this naturally led Takaichi to say
  215. 7:19she is willing to meet Kim Jong Un.
  216. 7:23She is actually using this to respond to
  217. 7:25the families of those abducted and the
  218. 7:27media.
  219. 7:28>> It's mainly to respond to the domestic
  220. 7:30media. So, do you think Kim Jong Un will
  221. 7:32meet her?
  222. 7:33>> I don't think so in the short term, of
  223. 7:35course.
  224. 7:35>> Yes.
  225. 7:37>> The two big bosses—I'm referring to
  226. 7:39China and Russia.
  227. 7:42When relations with Takaichi are bad, if
  228. 7:44you run off to meet her, you aren't
  229. 7:46thinking clearly. North Korea is very
  230. 7:48smart.
  231. 7:48>> I often ask, North Korea must have a
  232. 7:50very smart national security advisor.
  233. 7:52>> It's not me.
  234. 7:53>> One that enables North Korea to operate
  235. 7:55among these major powers.
  236. 7:57>> They are able to handle things with ease
  237. 7:59, and even continue developing ballistic
  238. 8:01missiles and nuclear weapons. Quite
  239. 8:03impressive. So, they probably understand
  240. 8:05the relations between these major powers
  241. 8:07. How could Kim Jong Un possibly meet
  242. 8:09with Takaichi now? But Takaichi has to
  243. 8:11say it, because she knows that saying it
  244. 8:13won't make it come true.
  245. 8:18>> Appeasing the domestic front costs
  246. 8:20nothing, and by stating this position,
  247. 8:22they at least provide an account to the
  248. 8:23families, groups, and media concerned
  249. 8:25with these abduction issues, but this
  250. 8:27raises a question for me.
  251. 8:35>> If the Japanese are so fixated on these
  252. 8:37abduction issues that have remained
  253. 8:38uncertain for 50 years or even longer.
  254. 8:43>> Mhm.
  255. 8:47>> Then how can the families, countries,
  256. 8:49governments, and societies of the Asian
  257. 8:51nations that suffered casualties during
  258. 8:53World War II ever forget that period?
  259. 8:58>> Exactly.
  260. 8:59>> So this is not just a historical issue;
  261. 9:02it is a matter of war and the harm
  262. 9:03caused to societies and individuals.
  263. 9:06I think Japan needs to have that empathy
  264. 9:08and understanding.
  265. 9:13If you feel aggrieved by the abduction
  266. 9:15issues from 50 years ago, insisting they
  267. 9:16remain unresolved and must be addressed
  268. 9:18, why do you treat the war issues as if
  269. 9:20they are merely history that should be
  270. 9:22compartmentalized?
  271. 9:26>> Mhm, mhm, indeed that is true. On the
  272. 9:29other side, Sino-Japanese relations have
  273. 9:31been affected for a year by Sanae
  274. 9:32Takaichi’s "Taiwan contingency" theory.
  275. 9:35As Professor Yang just mentioned
  276. 9:36regarding historical issues, if you are
  277. 9:38truly so concerned, shouldn't you be
  278. 9:40working to resolve them? Sino-Japanese
  279. 9:42relations have been marked by this "
  280. 9:44Taiwan contingency" theory for a year
  281. 9:46now, and the confrontation, maneuvering
  282. 9:48, and overall tension between the two
  283. 9:50sides show no signs of cooling down.
  284. 9:52Another point, I just checked, the APEC
  285. 9:54summit is nine days away.
  286. 9:58I see leaders from many countries
  287. 10:00announcing they have received their
  288. 10:01invitations, including Indonesia, which
  289. 10:03received its APEC invitation back in
  290. 10:05October.
  291. 10:09There is currently no news from the
  292. 10:11Japanese side, and we don't know if they
  293. 10:13have received an invitation at all—did
  294. 10:15they receive a formal invitation, or
  295. 10:16just an email invitation like Taiwan?
  296. 10:20Who knows. But at this moment,
  297. 10:22Sino-Japanese relations remain tense,
  298. 10:23precisely because of the "Taiwan
  299. 10:25contingency" theory. Well, two days ago
  300. 10:27on November 7th, the one-year
  301. 10:29anniversary, both Sanae Takaichi and
  302. 10:31Japan's Chief Cabinet Secretary Hirokazu
  303. 10:33Matsuno made their latest statements to
  304. 10:36the outside world and to China.
  305. 10:39I’ll give you the conclusion first:
  306. 10:41regardless of whether it was Takaichi or
  307. 10:43Matsuno, they both emphasized again that
  308. 10:45mainland China is an important neighbor
  309. 10:47.
  310. 10:48Of course, he has said these words many
  311. 10:50times before.
  312. 10:53On this one-year anniversary, he once
  313. 10:54again emphasized that China is an
  314. 10:56important neighbor, but regarding the
  315. 10:58issue Beijing is most concerned about— "
  316. 11:00Will you retract your related remarks?"
  317. 11:04—he did not respond, nor did he tell
  318. 11:06everyone how to resolve these disputes
  319. 11:08between China and Japan.
  320. 11:10He didn't respond, especially Sanae
  321. 11:12Takaichi herself, she just avoids it.
  322. 11:14Not talking about it, the spokesperson
  323. 11:15for the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, Kuo
  324. 11:17Chia-kun, stated at the press conference
  325. 11:18that current China-Japan relations are
  326. 11:20facing severe difficulties, and the
  327. 11:21responsibility lies with the Japanese
  328. 11:22side. Japan has not sufficiently
  329. 11:24reflected on or corrected Takaichi's
  330. 11:26remarks over the past year, and it was
  331. 11:27requested again that Japan formally
  332. 11:29address history and the Taiwan issue. As
  333. 11:31for Chief Cabinet Secretary Yoshimasa
  334. 11:33Hayashi, he emphasized that the Japanese
  335. 11:35government's basic position on Taiwan
  336. 11:37remains unchanged according to the 1972
  337. 11:39China-Japan Joint Statement. While it
  338. 11:41hasn't changed, are you going to correct
  339. 11:43the related disputes and remarks?
  340. 11:45Whether it's Chief Cabinet Secretary
  341. 11:47Hayashi or Sanae Takaichi, they neither
  342. 11:49responded nor said they would make
  343. 11:50corrections; it's as if they heard it,
  344. 11:52left it on "read," and then moved on to
  345. 11:54other topics. "China is an important
  346. 11:55neighbor"—they finished saying it, but
  347. 11:57the most important issue remains
  348. 11:58unresolved. With only nine days left,
  349. 12:00the outside world is concerned: is a
  350. 12:01Xi-Takaichi meeting still possible? At
  351. 12:03the APEC summit, I also don't know if
  352. 12:05Sanae Takaichi will go; no news has been
  353. 12:07released. Logically speaking, with nine
  354. 12:09days to go, the invitation should have
  355. 12:11been received by now, but there is no
  356. 12:13news from Japanese media or Japanese
  357. 12:15officials. Let's immediately ask Bin-ge
  358. 12:17, how does Bin-ge see it?
  359. 12:18>> Theoretically, as the host, mainland
  360. 12:21China should still send her an
  361. 12:22invitation.
  362. 12:24>> It's just that this invitation might not
  363. 12:26be very polite; it might be similar to
  364. 12:28Taiwan, sent via email or something like
  365. 12:30that. Yes, it's not impossible.
  366. 12:33>> Right, it's not impossible; they would
  367. 12:35be doing it on purpose to demean your
  368. 12:37status.
  369. 12:37>> It is possible that mainland China would
  370. 12:39do exactly that, yes.
  371. 12:40>> The Japanese side is also very low-key
  372. 12:42now because last time Takaichi told the
  373. 12:44Diet, "If the Diet allows it, I will go
  374. 12:46." Actually, I think she was
  375. 12:47preemptively covering herself back then
  376. 12:49.
  377. 12:49>> Meaning that if she doesn't go in the
  378. 12:51end, it's because if the Diet doesn't
  379. 12:53allow it, or if the Diet feels they are
  380. 12:55demeaning us, then I'll just not go.
  381. 12:57>> Because, to be honest, Takaichi is very
  382. 12:59clear in her own mind that if she goes,
  383. 13:01she won't be able to achieve any of her
  384. 13:03goals.
  385. 13:03>> Hmm.
  386. 13:04The biggest highlight of this APEC that
  387. 13:07everyone is watching is the trilateral
  388. 13:09talks, specifically the China-US-related
  389. 13:11meetings.
  390. 13:12Everything else will be relegated to a
  391. 13:14supporting role and will not be a key
  392. 13:16issue. As for Takaichi, even if she goes
  393. 13:19to the IPAC, the most she can do is meet
  394. 13:21with Trump. Putin and Xi Jinping will
  395. 13:23absolutely never meet her; why would
  396. 13:25they even meet you? Not to mention, it
  397. 13:28has been a full year since you said "a
  398. 13:30Taiwan contingency is a Japan
  399. 13:31contingency," and you still haven't made
  400. 13:33any clarifications. For mainland China,
  401. 13:35this is unacceptable, so why would they
  402. 13:37meet with you?
  403. 13:38>> In reality, I think even if Takaichi
  404. 13:40eventually goes, the Chinese side will
  405. 13:42use many tactics to make it impossible
  406. 13:44for her to even get near Xi. I, I think
  407. 13:46mainland China will—
  408. 13:47>> Yes, mainland China will adopt such an
  409. 13:50approach.
  410. 13:51>> So—
  411. 13:51>> Takaichi herself is very clear that
  412. 13:53China-Japan relations won't be getting
  413. 13:55any better. Mm.
  414. 13:56>> Because she can't retract it, right? How
  415. 13:57could she? If she retracts it, she’s
  416. 13:59finished herself. But if she doesn't
  417. 14:01retract it, China-Japan relations are
  418. 14:02definitely finished. So, in the
  419. 14:03foreseeable future, China-Japan
  420. 14:04relations will likely only get worse;
  421. 14:06they absolutely cannot get better.
  422. 14:07>> Mm.
  423. 14:08>> Therefore, I think this is something
  424. 14:10everyone is well aware of. The biggest
  425. 14:12challenge for Takaichi right now is
  426. 14:13probably not whether relations with
  427. 14:15China will improve.
  428. 14:17Because if this continues, where on
  429. 14:19earth will you source the rare
  430. 14:20earth-related raw materials that
  431. 14:22Japanese companies lack the most?
  432. 14:25>> These businesses will shut down.
  433. 14:26>> So, what are you going to do?
  434. 14:28>> I think this is Takaichi’s biggest
  435. 14:30headache right now, because she clearly
  436. 14:32has no ability to solve this issue.
  437. 14:33>> Mm-hmm. Right, right. Brother Bin just
  438. 14:36brought up a key point.
  439. 14:38Data released by China's customs a
  440. 14:40couple of days ago showed that compared
  441. 14:42to the first half of last year, China’s
  442. 14:44exports of these metals to Japan have
  443. 14:46already dropped by 98%.
  444. 14:50Western media previously reported that
  445. 14:51if these Japanese companies cannot get
  446. 14:53those rare earths, they might really
  447. 14:55close or halt production by the end of
  448. 14:57the year.
  449. 14:58It's possible; that's what Western media
  450. 15:00wrote.
  451. 15:02But at this moment, for Sanae Takaichi,
  452. 15:04it’s not just China-Japan relations that
  453. 15:07are a headache; there's also the LDP
  454. 15:09internal incident—we are citing reports
  455. 15:11from Kyodo News.
  456. 15:13Okay, let's look at the latest news
  457. 15:14first: Kyodo News reports that the
  458. 15:16Japanese government is studying how to
  459. 15:18further emphasize the Self-Defense
  460. 15:20Forces 'sustained combat capabilities in
  461. 15:21the national defense strategy to be
  462. 15:23revised within the year. There are
  463. 15:25different views within Japan regarding "
  464. 15:27sustained combat capabilities."
  465. 15:30Some are concerned that if combat is
  466. 15:32overemphasized, it might lead the
  467. 15:33outside world to believe that Japan is
  468. 15:35planning its policies based on the
  469. 15:37premise of war.
  470. 15:39There is also internal strife within the
  471. 15:41Liberal Democratic Party.
  472. 15:45On November 6th, during the vote on
  473. 15:47consumption tax reduction legislation,
  474. 15:49LDP members from former Prime Minister
  475. 15:51Ishiba Shigeru's faction left the
  476. 15:53chamber before the vote, opting to
  477. 15:55abstain from voting.
  478. 16:00This move was widely seen by outsiders
  479. 16:02as an act of protest, signaling
  480. 16:03dissatisfaction with this tax cut
  481. 16:05proposal.
  482. 16:07Why?
  483. 16:09I read reports from Japanese media,
  484. 16:11which essentially suggest that Ishiba
  485. 16:13believes the funding sources for this
  486. 16:14plan are unclear.
  487. 16:18He thinks that while tax cuts are fine,
  488. 16:20the lack of a clear, sufficient plan to
  489. 16:22cover the revenue shortfall could harm
  490. 16:24Japan's fiscal health, so they used this
  491. 16:26walkout to protest.
  492. 16:29Currently, LDP leadership has demanded
  493. 16:31that these four lawmakers submit written
  494. 16:34explanations by today, November 9th.
  495. 16:38This is the deadline, and the party
  496. 16:40headquarters will decide on further
  497. 16:41disciplinary actions based on their
  498. 16:43responses.
  499. 16:46I have seen netizens discussing whether
  500. 16:47they might be expelled from the party.
  501. 16:50Let's consult Professor Yang immediately
  502. 16:52.
  503. 16:54Professor, what is your take on the
  504. 16:56external perception that Ishiba’s
  505. 16:58walkout signifies internal party trouble
  506. 17:00?
  507. 17:01>> I don't think it's internal strife; it's
  508. 17:03a dispute over ideological differences.
  509. 17:06>> Ideological dispute.
  510. 17:07>> Because the LDP currently holds 316
  511. 17:09seats in the House of Representatives.
  512. 17:11>> Yes.
  513. 17:12>> Having four people walk out doesn't
  514. 17:14affect the situation at all.
  515. 17:16But among these four, there are two
  516. 17:18significant political figures.
  517. 17:20>> One is Ishiba Shigeru?
  518. 17:22>> Yes. And the other is Obuchi Yuko.
  519. 17:25>> This person...
  520. 17:26>> Obuchi Yuko is the daughter of former
  521. 17:28Prime Minister Obuchi Keizo.
  522. 17:30>> Right.
  523. 17:30>> This person...
  524. 17:31>> She was once quite popular, too.
  525. 17:33>> Uh-huh.
  526. 17:35>> Obuchi Keizo served as Prime Minister
  527. 17:38from 1998 to 2000, and he passed away
  528. 17:40while in office.
  529. 17:42>> He died while in office.
  530. 17:44>> So, people still remember him fondly
  531. 17:46because he was very down-to-earth.
  532. 17:48>> Oh, right, Obuchi Keizo loved making
  533. 17:51phone calls.
  534. 17:52>> Yes, making calls, he...
  535. 17:54>> He would call voters and various people
  536. 17:56; some would even think it was a prank
  537. 17:58call.
  538. 17:58>> How could it be Obuchi Keizo? They’d
  539. 18:00hang up, and he’d call back. That's
  540. 18:02right, he'd say, "I really am the Prime
  541. 18:04Minister."
  542. 18:05So, these stories about him have made
  543. 18:07many people miss him dearly.
  544. 18:11And since Obuchi Yuko represents his
  545. 18:13legacy, the walkout by these two people
  546. 18:15expresses their genuine concern—or
  547. 18:17rather, their grave concern—about
  548. 18:19Japan's fiscal state.
  549. 18:24I think it's quite justified; the
  550. 18:26Japanese yen is depreciating across the
  551. 18:29board, and your debt burden has reached
  552. 18:31240%of GDP.
  553. 18:37And now, you want to increase military
  554. 18:39spending while also cutting the
  555. 18:41consumption tax from 8%to 1%, starting
  556. 18:43next April.
  557. 18:47So, tell me, where will you find the
  558. 18:49money to cover these other things—like
  559. 18:51debt repayment, social welfare, or
  560. 18:53education?
  561. 18:56The same problem exists in the U.S. and
  562. 18:58Taiwan. Military spending now accounts
  563. 19:00for an increasingly high proportion. In
  564. 19:02Taiwan, the proportion of military
  565. 19:03spending has reached one-third. Japan
  566. 19:05isn't that extreme yet, but it's getting
  567. 19:07there.
  568. 19:08So, under these circumstances, where is
  569. 19:10your fiscal health and fiscal discipline
  570. 19:13?
  571. 19:13You need to be clear about it, mhm.
  572. 19:16>> It’s just that among these 300-plus
  573. 19:18seats, the vast majority are following
  574. 19:20the LDP and don't dare to speak for
  575. 19:22themselves.
  576. 19:24Providing written opinions—I don't think
  577. 19:26it matters whether they do or not; it
  578. 19:27would be best if you just expelled them
  579. 19:29.
  580. 19:31>> Ah, it shouldn't go that far.
  581. 19:33>> Mhm.
  582. 19:34>> Regarding future actions, they might
  583. 19:36even withdraw from the Liberal
  584. 19:37Democratic Party themselves. Just
  585. 19:39imagine, someone who has served as Prime
  586. 19:42Minister eventually withdrawing from the
  587. 19:44LDP.
  588. 19:44>> The impact of this on the LDP would be
  589. 19:46quite significant.
  590. 19:47>> Yes.
  591. 19:48>> But these right-wing politicians,
  592. 19:50including the LDP, don't care about this
  593. 19:52issue anymore. Mhm.
  594. 19:54>> They don't care because they believe
  595. 19:56these issues are now their specialty.
  596. 19:58Let's talk about the defense policy part
  597. 20:00he mentioned.
  598. 20:02>> Right.
  599. 20:03>> This is where he's playing word games,
  600. 20:05because he originally wanted to amend
  601. 20:07the three security laws.
  602. 20:11Since the three non-nuclear principles
  603. 20:13are written into those laws, if you want
  604. 20:15to relax them to introduce U.S.
  605. 20:17nuclear-powered submarines...
  606. 20:20...
  607. 20:20>> you have to amend the law.
  608. 20:22Amending the law isn't the problem, but
  609. 20:24the act of doing so would trigger a
  610. 20:26backlash from the international
  611. 20:27community and the region to the Japanese
  612. 20:29people.
  613. 20:30Even now, people in Japan still go out
  614. 20:32to protest every week. Yes, protesting
  615. 20:35right outside the Diet.
  616. 20:38>> Right, sometimes there are thousands of
  617. 20:40people, sometimes fewer, but what you
  618. 20:42see now is that he is using the
  619. 20:43so-called National Defense Strategy or
  620. 20:46cabinet resolutions, utilizing "
  621. 20:47sustained combat capability."
  622. 20:51>> Right.
  623. 20:53>> Of course, one might worry about this
  624. 20:55combat concept, but I think it’s also a
  625. 20:57bit of a "sneaking across" strategy.
  626. 20:59It means he wants to use this method to
  627. 21:01introduce U.S. nuclear-powered
  628. 21:03submarines.
  629. 21:05Because he believes nuclear-powered
  630. 21:07submarines don't violate the three
  631. 21:09non-nuclear principles—they aren't
  632. 21:11nuclear weapons, they aren't nuclear
  633. 21:12weapons.
  634. 21:14Hey, Australia makes the same argument.
  635. 21:17When discussing this issue, many people
  636. 21:19focus on the financial aspect, while
  637. 21:21others focus on whether it violates the
  638. 21:231968 Non-Proliferation Treaty (NPT).
  639. 21:26Because you cannot proliferate nuclear
  640. 21:28weapons.
  641. 21:29They say nuclear-powered submarines
  642. 21:31aren't nuclear weapons, but I personally
  643. 21:33wonder if they are?
  644. 21:35It uses nuclear power; isn't that a
  645. 21:37nuclear weapon?
  646. 21:39>> Mm.
  647. 21:40>> Must it be a nuclear warhead that you
  648. 21:41launch and detonate to be considered a
  649. 21:43nuclear weapon?
  650. 21:46>> Oh, so this is actually a broad versus
  651. 21:48narrow interpretation, but regarding
  652. 21:50nuclear non-proliferation, it should
  653. 21:52certainly be viewed broadly.
  654. 21:56But regardless, as long as the U.S. and
  655. 21:57Japan can interpret it their own way,
  656. 21:59they'll just use this method.
  657. 22:02>> Word games.
  658. 22:03>> Word games.
  659. 22:04>> Nuclear-powered submarines that aren't "
  660. 22:07nuclear weapons."
  661. 22:08>> They help strengthen combat capabilities
  662. 22:10and deterrence.
  663. 22:12>> Mm.
  664. 22:13>> Using this approach.
  665. 22:15>> I think my guess, my deduction, is that
  666. 22:17this is the direction it's heading.
  667. 22:19>> Mm, mm, mm, okay. Let me ask you, Bin-ge
  668. 22:22: how do you see what Professor Yang
  669. 22:24just said about them modifying the
  670. 22:26Self-Defense Forces' "sustained combat
  671. 22:28capability"—is it just playing word
  672. 22:30games? Basically, essentially, from
  673. 22:32Beijing's perspective, they just think:
  674. 22:34"Stop pretending; you don't need to do
  675. 22:36all this, you just want to develop
  676. 22:38militarism."
  677. 22:40The truth is they are heading in that
  678. 22:42direction, but the issue is they want to
  679. 22:44use a roundabout way, with less
  680. 22:46aggressive language, to see if they can
  681. 22:48reduce external impact and domestic
  682. 22:50backlash.
  683. 22:51>> That is their goal, actually.
  684. 22:53>> To put it plainly, just four words: "
  685. 22:55deceiving oneself and others."
  686. 22:56>> Basically, that's what it means.
  687. 22:58>> But is doing this actually useful? I
  688. 23:00honestly don't think it's useful at all
  689. 23:01.
  690. 23:02>> Because everyone knows what you are
  691. 23:03doing.
  692. 23:04>> Is there anyone who wouldn't know? So
  693. 23:05China, Russia, including North Korea,
  694. 23:07and even South Korea will likely not buy
  695. 23:09into this.
  696. 23:10>> Mm-hmm.
  697. 23:11>> And the only place in East Asia that
  698. 23:12might buy it is probably Taiwan.
  699. 23:14>> Right, but what about domestically?
  700. 23:16Inside Japan, many people are
  701. 23:18increasingly worried about this
  702. 23:20aggressive situation, so I think if he
  703. 23:22stubbornly insists on going this way,
  704. 23:24those in the country opposing him will
  705. 23:27likely gather more and more strength.
  706. 23:30>> I think this is an inevitable
  707. 23:32development; it seems he has no
  708. 23:34intention of stopping, because this is
  709. 23:36his lifelong goal.
  710. 23:38So, since it is his lifelong goal, and
  711. 23:40he has finally gotten this far, I think
  712. 23:42he will try to do it, which is all
  713. 23:44within expectations; therefore, I think
  714. 23:46Japan will inevitably face a political
  715. 23:49train wreck in the end.
  716. 23:50>> All right, Bin, I'd like to continue
  717. 23:52asking you about what you mentioned
  718. 23:54earlier—that there might be a "head-on
  719. 23:56collision" within Japan. Indeed, just as
  720. 23:58Mr. Yang said earlier, this internal
  721. 24:00conflict and infighting within the LDP
  722. 24:02isn't happening for the first time.
  723. 24:05For instance, take Tsuruho; he has
  724. 24:07openly criticized Takaichi Sanae before
  725. 24:09.
  726. 24:09>> Yes.
  727. 24:10>> Mm.
  728. 24:11>> Because now that he’s withdrawn from the
  729. 24:13party faction, you should know that
  730. 24:14people have dug up the fact that over a
  731. 24:16decade ago, he scolded others, telling
  732. 24:18them if they disagreed, they should just
  733. 24:20quit the party—and now he’s done the
  734. 24:22exact same thing. So now, the LDP
  735. 24:23leadership will likely spend the next
  736. 24:25few days studying whether to...
  737. 24:27>> issue disciplinary action or expel him
  738. 24:29from the party entirely.
  739. 24:30>> Mm-hm. Or whether he might quit the
  740. 24:32party himself; nobody knows yet.
  741. 24:34>> It depends on how the LDP handles it,
  742. 24:36but I must say...
  743. 24:38>> Even though Ishiba has always been a
  744. 24:40lone wolf within the LDP and essentially
  745. 24:42has no faction,
  746. 24:43>> Mm.
  747. 24:44>> I personally believe that after what
  748. 24:47he's done, whether the LDP expels him or
  749. 24:49he quits on his own, it will stir up a
  750. 24:51storm in Japanese politics.
  751. 24:53>> Mm, actually.
  752. 24:55>> There are actually three other lawmakers
  753. 24:56who joined him in this action.
  754. 24:58>> Right, four people in total. Yes, so
  755. 25:00whether others in the LDP will follow
  756. 25:02his lead and echo his stance is hard to
  757. 25:04say.
  758. 25:05There are growing concerns within the
  759. 25:07LDP regarding Takaichi Sanae's path, so
  760. 25:09I think if she handles this poorly, it
  761. 25:11could lead to a major split within the
  762. 25:13party, which probably wouldn't be good
  763. 25:16for her either.
  764. 25:17>> Mm-hm, let me ask Mr. Yang one final
  765. 25:19question. Sir, the world is focused on
  766. 25:21the APEC summit, which is only nine days
  767. 25:23away. I’ve been following it closely,
  768. 25:25checking the Japanese media reports
  769. 25:27every day. I’m curious to know if there
  770. 25:28has been any official word from the
  771. 25:30Japanese side regarding Takaichi Sanae
  772. 25:32or anything related to the APEC summit?
  773. 25:34As of now, there hasn't been, none at
  774. 25:36all. Let’s ask Mr. Yang then: in your
  775. 25:38view, is an "Xi-Takaichi" meeting still
  776. 25:41possible?
  777. 25:41>> Oh, impossible.
  778. 25:42>> Then will he attend? Wait.
  779. 25:44>> He will likely attend.
  780. 25:45>> Likely to attend, mm.
  781. 25:47>> Because if he stays away entirely, that
  782. 25:49would be a major failure for Japanese
  783. 25:51diplomacy.
  784. 25:52>> Oh, a diplomatic disaster.
  785. 25:54>> Because if he goes, he can still hold
  786. 25:56many bilateral meetings. Right.
  787. 25:58>> He could arrange, for example, to meet
  788. 26:01with the US, Canada, Australia, New
  789. 26:03Zealand, and well, Vietnam, that's too
  790. 26:05many...
  791. 26:07>> The Philippines, of course the
  792. 26:08Philippines; I’ll even throw in a coast
  793. 26:10guard ship for you, right?
  794. 26:11>> Philippine President Marcos has already
  795. 26:13confirmed he will go. Yes.
  796. 26:14>> Yes, definitely going, yes.
  797. 26:16>> Since the Philippines is also the
  798. 26:18rotating chair of ASEAN this year, he
  799. 26:19will definitely be going with Trump.
  800. 26:22>> So, he will actually be very busy.
  801. 26:26It’s just that he won’t be able to meet
  802. 26:28Trump, Putin, or Xi Jinping.
  803. 26:30Well.
  804. 26:33>> That’s how it is, and I don’t think he
  805. 26:35will try to force his way in or act like
  806. 26:37a sycophant, so I think the likelihood
  807. 26:38of him going is still quite high.
  808. 26:42If he doesn’t go, I think it wouldn’t
  809. 26:44make sense, because this is a
  810. 26:45multilateral occasion—doesn’t Japan
  811. 26:47emphasize multilateral diplomacy?
  812. 26:49Besides, with so many people to meet,
  813. 26:51seeing that many people at once,
  814. 26:52including Trump himself, he should at
  815. 26:54least take a look.
  816. 26:55>> Right, you go and complain to him a
  817. 26:57little, right?
  818. 27:00Engage with him a bit, so I actually
  819. 27:01think he will go, it’s just that there
  820. 27:03are some issues with talking about going
  821. 27:05now.
  822. 27:07People will definitely ask if he will
  823. 27:09meet with Xi Jinping.
  824. 27:11>> So it’s better to just give a more
  825. 27:12low-key answer.
  826. 27:13>> Also, if he goes, all media cameras will
  827. 27:15certainly be watching to see how the
  828. 27:17leaders interact with each other, yes.
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