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0:00I told her, "Oh mom, I remember you
0:02from when I chose you.""You know, when
0:04I came to see you." She looked at me
0:06and said, "Hmm, impossible, because
0:08you're born, you can't have come before
0:10being born." I said, "But yes, remember
0:12." I would go to bed telling myself,
0:14you're completely crazy. And I was even
0:16terrified that one day they'd take me
0:18to see someone. It was a real fear. I
0:20was afraid of becoming someone who
0:22loses their grip and falls into madness
0:24, or being judged, you know, burned at
0:26the stake. When there was a full moon,
0:28I would hold out my hands, and one day
0:30my mother said to me, "What are you
0:31doing? Are you turning into a werewolf?
0:33" I went home and I heard in my head, "
0:35Don't you understand yet that you have
0:36everything in your hands?" And I said,
0:38"But I have what?" And then, in one
0:39night, everything changed. If I can
0:41take away even a tiny, infinitesimal
0:43part of their suffering, then my life
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1:04I am delighted to welcome Julie Verron
1:06to the show today. Julie, thank you so
1:08much for being with me today.
1:10Thank you for inviting me.
1:14If it's okay with you, I like to start
1:15at the beginning and ask you what your
1:17life was like before you opened up to
1:18your extrasensory abilities.
1:20Yeah. Well, my life was the life of a
1:24very joyful little girl, a clown, very
1:26funny. Uh, but for all that, I was
1:30someone who was already very
1:32emotionally driven. I felt, I would say
1:35, everyone's emotions. It was something
1:38that was complicated for me to live
1:39with. But precisely my defense—
1:43because we all have a defense regarding
1:45our way of being—my defense was to
1:48always be joyful, always funny. I was
1:51the first to get up on tables, to dance
1:53, to make people laugh, to joke around.
1:56So my life was really the life of a
1:58very, very dynamic and very, very
1:59joyful little girl. You say little girl
2:04, so I imagine these abilities
2:05manifested very early on. What were the
2:08first signs for that?
2:10Yeah, yeah, yeah. For me, it manifested
2:13very early on because I know that many
2:15people aren't necessarily used to
2:18remembering moments from their youth.
2:21And for me, I have moments...the
2:23earliest moment I can remember, let's
2:25say, in terms of memories of somewhat
2:28strange phenomena. For me, we're in the
2:3280s, you see, I was born in '82, so I
2:36think we're around '84 or '85. I'm very
2:41small because I see myself on the floor
2:43, really sitting like you are when
2:45you're a baby, very close to the ground
2:47, everything seems very big, and I see
2:48my mother standing and I say to her, "
2:50Oh mommy, I remember you from when I
2:52chose you." You know, when I used to
2:56come and see you, and I really saw her
2:58face, you see Rémy, she looked at me
3:00and said, "Hmm, impossible, because you
3:02were born, you couldn't have come
3:03before being born." I said, "But yes,
3:06remember, do you remember, I used to
3:08come and see you and we knew each other
3:10before." She said, "No," and there you
3:12see, I remember, I'm very small, right,
3:14I'm really close to the floor, I'm down
3:17at carpet level and I think, "Oh blast,
3:19she doesn't understand what I want to
3:21tell her." I thought to myself
3:24and I really remember being a baby, you
3:26know, really crouched on the ground. So
3:29it goes back very, very far for me. I
3:30really remember strange phenomena...
3:33from very far back. And you say "little
3:37girl," and I say "little girl" because,
3:41in fact, even in my family, as far back
3:44as I can remember, I was already
3:47perceiving the emotions that others
3:49were thinking or feeling, and I
3:52perceived them without feeling that I
3:55had the right to verbalize my feelings.
3:59So I stayed a bit frozen with this
4:01impression that I was picking up
4:03everything from everyone. But at the
4:05same time, when you're 4, 5, 6 years
4:06old, well, it must have happened to you
4:08, it must happen to many people who are
4:10going to listen to us. You also think
4:12it's normal, you know, that everyone is
4:14made like us. It's finally when growing
4:16up a little bit that we say to
4:18ourselves, "Ah, maybe...maybe I'm all
4:20alone, or maybe there aren't many of us
4:22who feel that." So it's true that for
4:25me, I was...my first memories are, I
4:28think, around 3 years old.
4:30Hm.
4:30There you go. at an emotional level and
4:32regarding the vibrations of others,
4:35regarding the flashes I perceive about
4:37others and memories I may have uh that
4:40are not traditional. I have I have
4:42another small anecdote. Uh I remember
4:46being very little, I must have been
4:48just about ten years old and uh I go up
4:51to my father who was in our living room
4:53. We had a TV room and my father was in
4:57the room; he was watching TV and then I
5:00tell him, uh: "Oh well, you know, this
5:03earth, it's been built and
5:04deconstructed an incalculable number of
5:07times, we start over, we experiment, it
5:10doesn't work, we start from scratch.""
5:13And I don't know, I told him that, and
5:15it makes no sense to say something like
5:17that. Especially since I wasn't really
5:19into science fiction either. Anyway, it
5:21wasn't And my father says to me uh he
5:25says" Have you been smoking? "Laughing,
5:26since we had a lot of humor in the
5:28family, he says" Have you been smoking?
5:30"Uh I look at him, I say" What is he
5:32talking about? "And then I left and I,
5:33you see, I went back to my little girl
5:36activities. I loved the little toy cars
5:38, the Majorettes. I went back to my
5:40cars
5:40and I told myself" Well, it doesn't
5:41matter if he doesn't understand
5:42anything. "And then I didn't have any
5:44info. Those are memories you had back
5:47then when you were young. Do you still
5:49have them today? You see, typically,
5:52you were talking about your memories of
5:54before life, that you were also aware
5:56of the cycle possibly that the earth
5:58was in. Are those flashes you had at
6:00the time that you sort of lost over the
6:02years when you finally—if you finally
6:03—closed yourself off
6:05or are they actually still very vivid
6:07memories in your mind today?
6:09Yeah, that's a good question because we
6:12evolve with our abilities. You have to
6:15realize that when you are little, you
6:17don't have the same blockage, the same
6:20mental barrier. So the abilities can be
6:22there, we think they are normal, so
6:24everything comes through. And indeed uh
6:27yes uh closing yourself off, that's the
6:29right term because there is always a
6:31moment when you do shut down uh to fit
6:34in because you don't want to stand out
6:36from those around you. Uh, you can feel
6:41that the subject might be stressful;
6:43you feel that having memories, feelings
6:45, perceptions, is something that can
6:48make you pass or appear to those around
6:50you as someone different. And there,
6:54you can imagine, that must have
6:55happened to you. It must happen to
6:56those who are listening to us. No one
6:58wants the spotlight on them. No one
7:00wants people saying," Oh dear, oh dear,
7:02uh, he or she isn't, they're not
7:03ordinary, you know. "Of course, we want
7:06to fit the mold, to be the perfect
7:07child, to be the perfect classmate. So
7:10it's true that we will, as you say,
7:12close ourselves off, or at least during
7:15the day or in public, it's true that I
7:17didn't give off that appearance. So,
7:20even in my family, my loved ones could
7:22tell you—perhaps except, you know, my
7:25dad and my mom, really my little sister
7:28who is 6 years younger than me, who
7:30perhaps witnessed my evolution a bit
7:33more—I could tell you that those in
7:36my family, cousins, aunts, uncles, ah,
7:38I remained invisible. So, if I
7:44understand correctly, you closed
7:46yourself off a bit or in any case
7:47didn't explore that inclination and you
7:49lived a somewhat classic, traditional
7:50life for a few years. I would be
7:53curious for you to tell us a little bit
7:54about, well, precisely that aspect of a
7:55traditional life, a classic life. How
7:58long did it last and at what point did
7:59you reopen that inclination a bit and
8:01tell yourself:" Well, maybe I'll
8:02explore, "and to what extent was it
8:04your own initiative or something that
8:06just fell upon you?
8:09Uh, a bit of both. Because I am very
8:12much a fighter. Uh, I feel fear, but
8:15beyond the fear, uh, I'm the type to
8:18say," It's okay, you have to go for it.
8:20"So, I still have a lot of instinct.
8:22There you go, I rely a lot on my
8:23instincts. So, I lived a life, as you
8:27say, classic, uh, perhaps all the time,
8:30uh all the time already when I was in
8:35middle school, because for me, middle
8:37school was an ordeal. I didn't feel
8:39loved, I didn't feel like I belonged. I
8:43had a lot of trouble because, precisely
8:45, I perceived—I was going to say the
8:47malice of others—but I'll be honest:
8:49I mostly perceived the feelings, the
8:51painful emotions of others. Because
8:53positive emotions, it's as if my focus
8:55wasn't drawn to them because I knew
8:57them, I kept them in my heart and
8:59didn't need to look at them, but I felt
9:02everything that was wrong, if you know
9:04what I mean. So since it was difficult,
9:07since it was negative, well, it's
9:10certain that I controlled it. There, I
9:12would put it like that. I controlled
9:14what I received and I also controlled
9:16the image I might project. So I
9:19couldn't give the impression of having
9:21a connection elsewhere. And yet,
9:24despite that, I remember being told,"
9:26You're an alien, you're not like the
9:27others. "Yet I really did everything to
9:31be, but you see, I must have given off
9:34something because of which people
9:39perhaps felt comfortable coming to tell
9:41me their problems or letting them be
9:44expressed. In any case, I felt I was
9:46being tested, they were saying to me,"
9:47Are you going or not? Are you listening
9:49to your inner self or not? "And so I
9:50was at a time in middle school where I
9:52really ultra-controlled that. I
9:54absolutely did not accept having those
9:57energies in me. Uh, plus I was scared
10:00because it...
10:02To clarify, at that time we weren't
10:04talking about mediumship or all those
10:05more concrete things. It's much more in
10:08the subtle and in what is felt.
10:10It was already there but I didn't put a
10:12word to it and I would never have used
10:14that word because it's still a word
10:16that doesn't quite suit me. If we take
10:19it etymologically at the root, a medium
10:22means someone who makes the link. It is
10:25the one who creates the connection. So
10:26it's true that I am a person of
10:28connection in every way in my life for
10:30everyone, for people's wounds. I am a
10:33networker, I am always bringing people
10:35together. So, it's true that, let's say
10:37that in that sense, this word sticks to
10:39me, but I didn't use the term
10:41mediumship for it back then. Because
10:43for me, medium means psychic, it means
10:45fortune teller, it means reading cards,
10:48it means some wacky person out of their
10:50mind. So anyway, it was poorly
10:53experienced. And well, in the 90s, it
10:56must be said, we couldn't express
10:58ourselves on YouTube. We probably
11:01weren't even seen as what we were. So
11:03back then, it was less glamorous to be
11:05that. So you see, for me, these
11:07phenomena were a form of mediumship,
11:09because I perceived what wasn't being
11:12said, I perceived things I never could
11:14have perceived, that is to say, the
11:16problems related to the families of
11:18those students, of my classmates. I saw
11:21things that I shouldn't have been able
11:22to see. I didn't go to their homes. I
11:24couldn't have seen that the father was
11:26hitting my classmate's mother. Yet, I
11:29perceived it, you see, and I couldn't
11:31say anything. I wouldn't come forward,
11:34I wouldn't allow myself to say," well
11:35you know, I understand it's difficult,
11:37"I just stayed silent. So, all through
11:40middle school, I was really in a" I
11:42sense it but I don't show it "mode. And
11:46there were also the phenomena that I
11:48would experience, I'd say, more in the
11:50evening or at night at home. And that
11:53was very, very hard to live with,
11:56because when you first start connecting
11:58, you don't know how to connect well
12:00with the different layers, and you can
12:03easily be bothered by what we call
12:05today, what I know I can call the lower
12:07astral plane, but at the time, for me,
12:09it was just the living and the
12:11invisible. But what is behind this
12:13invisible? I didn't know how to master
12:16it yet—let's say" master, "it's
12:18always a complicated word because you
12:20never fully master it—but I didn't
12:22know how to feel or analyze what was
12:23coming to me. So, I was quite polluted
12:26at that time. I was bothered by noises,
12:29by presences, by messages in my head.
12:32That was very, very hard to live
12:33through. I heard sounds that were
12:34physical, even. I heard footsteps,
12:36because we had, in our bedrooms, you
12:38see, the living area downstairs and the
12:41sleeping area upstairs in our apartment
12:43, and my dad had renovated everything.
12:46It was a more or less new apartment,
12:48but for the sake of aesthetics, we had
12:50decided back then to put down
12:51wood-imitation linoleum. It was trendy
12:54in the 90s, and well, my dad was a
12:56house painter, so he renovated the
12:58whole floor with nice linoleum. Yes,
13:01linoleum. So when you walked, there was
13:04a specific sound to the footsteps,
13:07because underneath, the carpet left by
13:10the builder was still there, if you
13:13want. So with the carpet plus the
13:16linoleum, you could hear a slight
13:17resonance, and that’s where I would
13:19get the sound of footsteps, and I heard
13:20the steps moving about. At first, I was
13:23the only one hearing them, and then my
13:25sister heard them too, which really
13:27encouraged me to listen to myself until
13:30the moment I started hearing who was
13:31next to me in my bed, wanting to talk
13:33to me. And it was a message that was
13:36intended for my mother. It was a person
13:38who had committed suicide, who was in
13:41my mom's circle, whom she had known for
13:43a very short time, but she had known
13:45this person who had, well, come in a
13:47somewhat malicious way, like out of
13:50jealousy, if you will. And I felt that,
13:52and that was very, very hard to live
13:54through. I could even feel the person's
13:56physical presence. So I described them
13:58and then I heard the name. So I won't
14:00say it here, but I heard the person's
14:01last name. And so my mother, oh yes. So
14:06you see, it was, it was full-blown
14:08mediumship.
14:08Hm.
14:09But I was putting
14:10Has it ever happened to you that you
14:12questioned your own sanity a little?
14:15Did you sometimes feel like you were
14:17losing your footing and say," Okay, is
14:18this really happening to me? "Or was it
14:20actually your reality quite quickly,
14:22and you told yourself," Well, I don't
14:24feel like I'm going crazy. "Uh, it must
14:26just be this way.
14:28Well, precisely, you should know, and
14:30it might sound completely crazy. So I'm
14:32telling everyone who is at that point,
14:34my message today is exactly that. It's
14:36to say, watch out, you can be born
14:38Cartesian—that's my case. I was truly
14:41born Cartesian. We were in an atheist
14:43family. To go back to the story before
14:46the little girl, we are in a family
14:48that has been atheist for at least
14:50since the grandmothers on both sides,
14:52it seems to me. So that's to tell you,
14:56in our home, we didn't talk about
14:58religion, we didn't necessarily talk
15:00about spirits or all those things, it
15:02was just...fine. And we weren't closed
15:06off, if you want, you see, I couldn't
15:08say we were in a closed universe. My
15:11parents always had a rather intelligent
15:13awareness, if you will, that something
15:15else could exist, but today, we don't
15:16know how to define it. So, we didn't
15:19venture there, if you want, and we
15:20didn't go into it. But on the other
15:24hand, questioning my inner thoughts,
15:26questioning my mental health, yes, at
15:29the very beginning when I really had
15:31perceptions, with those impressions of
15:34knowing things, understanding my
15:36classmates 'pain without them speaking
15:39to me. Yes, many times I came home. I
15:43remember not verbalizing it, but I
15:44would go to bed telling myself," You're
15:47completely losing it. "And I was even
15:49terrified that one day someone would
15:51make me see a professional. It was a
15:54real fear and for a long time I did
15:57interviews, well, I'm losing my words,
16:01in our local paper. I was interviewed
16:04several times, I was in the local paper
16:08and I said that I wanted to be an
16:11average person. And in the end, the
16:14fear I had behind that was that people
16:16would question my sincerity or my
16:18soundness of mind. So yes, I was very,
16:20very afraid of that. How far that could
16:23go, I was afraid of that. And because I
16:26was naturally Cartesian and I made fun
16:29of those who, you know, turned to
16:31religion, who prayed every week or,
16:34well, we had people around us who did
16:36that. And I remember it wasn't cool,
16:39but at the time, yeah, I was 8 or 10
16:40years old, I’d tell myself," You're
16:42clinging to something because you're
16:44afraid of living, that’s all. "And I
16:47remember telling them that, and looking
16:49back I think," Oh man, I hope I was
16:51punished. "So
16:54It's true that, on that point, I
16:55actually relate to you a bit. I was
16:58also quite critical, and so, now when I
17:00see critical comments, well, I tell
17:02myself: I can't be mad at them because
17:04I was, I was, I was in the same place,
17:06and I'm not against all criticism. I
17:09think it's important to be critical,
17:11it's important to keep your discernment
17:13. I think there's a way to get the
17:14message across, and sometimes it's not
17:16very...
17:17There are, well, there are words...
17:19Because for me, on the other hand, I
17:22would never have...I never hurled
17:24insults, but I just had a vision that I
17:27needed to get across. And I think deep
17:30down, to tell you clearly why I think I
17:33had that criticism, it's because I
17:35needed to experience moving from being
17:37a person who is square, disciplined,
17:41down-to-earth, because today I am still
17:43a medium and therapist who is
17:45down-to-earth. Actually, that's really
17:47my quality and I don't intend to
17:49deviate from it, is that I am capable
17:51of to capture what’s coming down, but
17:55I have a very stable material life. I
17:58don’t forget that we are on Earth,
18:00and that is precisely the danger, and
18:02it’s also a bit of my message. I told
18:06you earlier, I have a message to convey
18:09to the collective, which is really to
18:11say:" Be careful, it’s very important
18:14to be connected to yourself first,
18:16because connections enter us first; but
18:19what we mustn't lose sight of is that
18:22we chose to incarnate here. "That means
18:26that all this matter surrounding us,
18:28this house that I partly built with my
18:31own hands, well, it’s very important
18:33because that is where you realize your
18:36materiality and your existence. So, I
18:39think I needed back then to cling to
18:41something material because I was very,
18:44very afraid that, precisely, when you
18:46are someone who is connected, I was
18:49afraid of becoming someone who loses
18:51their footing and spirals into madness
18:53or gets judged, you know. Burned at the
18:56stake. I think I had that old fear
18:59still lingering. So I went from being
19:02that critical person, let's say, to
19:04this person who said to themselves,"
19:07Aha, okay, but could it be that... "...
19:11and then I slowly followed that
19:13instinct.
19:14Well, precisely, you mention" slowly, "
19:16so my question was: what was the
19:17turning point? What made you reopen
19:19that door and say," Okay, I'm going in
19:22100%. "Was it really a turning point at
19:25a specific moment, or was it more of a
19:27gradual evolution over several years
19:29for you to be......really more and more
19:32comfortable exploring those subjects?
19:34Yeah, that's a good question, because
19:37people think that the medium they
19:39consult at any given moment......the
19:44therapist we are has always been who
19:46they are. Well, of course, a part of us
19:49has always been who they are. But you
19:51remember that at five or ten years old,
19:54you weren't the same little boy as the
19:56man you are today. You know, you know
19:59your own thought process. You know that
20:01you went through several stages that
20:03allowed you to have levels of
20:04understanding, and you elevated
20:06yourself. And I wish for everyone to
20:08experience what we call levels of
20:10consciousness. So, for me, I
20:12experienced many levels of
20:14consciousness, but very early on
20:16already, and very quickly. So in middle
20:19school, I went through several levels
20:21of awareness, but especially back then,
20:23let's say in high school. When I
20:26started high school, uh, things really
20:29happened in stages for me. So it
20:33started, you know, aside from the
20:35noises, the presences, the things
20:38happening in the house, and my
20:40attraction to it. I remember back then
20:44—it's not really the case anymore—
20:46but I used to do something quite
20:48strange when I was little that made me
20:50even more afraid of myself. I remember
20:54that when there was a full moon, I
20:55would look at it, I was drawn to it. I
20:58knew it inside; something was telling
21:00me," Go see, "you know. I felt this" go
21:02, "so I would open the skylight in my
21:04parents' room to be as close as
21:05possible, you know, to the moon. And
21:08when it was a full moon, I would hold
21:09out my hands toward it. And one day, my
21:11mother said to me," What are you doing?
21:13Are you turning into a werewolf? "And
21:16you see, that's one of the things I
21:19completely shut away. I told myself,"
21:22Oh, well, never mind then. Yeah,
21:25you’re really losing it. "And you see
21:26, I shut that part down. It's one of
21:28those little things, but I don't know
21:29why I had to put my hands out. I just
21:31needed to feel the moon's radiance on
21:34my hands. And to describe it, I
21:38remember it would fill me up, like if I
21:41were tired, the moon's glow would
21:44replenish me, and I was just a little
21:46girl. And you know, back in the 90s, we
21:49didn't talk about that kind of stuff.
21:51There were no TV shows about it. So it
21:53was really something I did purely by
21:54instinct. So, there were stages; there
21:57was that, and then there was another
21:58very important stage. That one, I
22:02remember it being a bit of a starting
22:05point for the phenomena I began to
22:07understand through my body, realizing
22:10we could be something else beyond this
22:13materiality. So, I would go to bed at
22:18night, and I was a very anxious little
22:20girl, actually. I forgot to tell you
22:22that when you asked me the question. So
22:24I was very joyful and I think that was
22:26my weapon, you see, joy, because I was
22:28a very anxious person, especially
22:30because I felt everything around me and
22:32all the life experiences of my loved
22:33ones. And you see, that felt like a
22:35burden on my back. So in the evening,
22:39to feel better, I would breathe, I
22:41practiced breathing. And one day a
22:45friend gave me a—back then we had
22:46cassette players, so the younger ones
22:48won't understand. I put in a cassette,
22:52a friend told me," Here, play this,
22:54you'll see, it's sophrology, it'll do
22:56you good. "Well, being logical and
22:59without high expectations, I get into
23:02it, put on my headphones, start it, and
23:05the tape plays, getting us to refocus,
23:08breathe, become aware of the head, the
23:11jaw, the muscles, and all that down to
23:14the feet and from the feet back to the
23:17head. You see, all the muscles of the
23:21body, and I do this session that lasts
23:24about half an hour in my ears, and then
23:27I feel like I'm separating from my body
23:29. I can't explain it. I understood that
23:32I was separating from my body, even
23:34though, again, we didn't talk about
23:36that, and I feel myself separating and
23:37I say," What is this thing? "So I try
23:40to tell myself I need to get back into
23:42my physicality. So you see, I touch my
23:44bed with my hands like this and I feel
23:46like I feel nothing under my fingers. I
23:49want to move my arms and I feel nothing
23:51. So I feel like I am a little bit
23:54above. And that was a very disturbing
23:56experience. I had to breathe and feel.
24:00I heard, uh," is faith. "For me, faith,
24:06again, meant religion. You see, I
24:09associated it. Uh, faith equals
24:11religion equals priest equals you have
24:14to go take your communion. Besides, we
24:16aren't baptized at all in our family.
24:19So I close myself back up and suddenly
24:21I return to my body and I feel my bed.
24:24Ah, relieved. Phew, this matter is
24:26there, you see. And, uh, the next
24:28evening, uh, I started again, so I told
24:30my friend," I'll keep your cassette if
24:32you don't mind for a week, and I'll
24:34give it back to you. "And I started
24:36again every night, and this phenomenon
24:38happened to me every night, but faster
24:41and faster. After 15 minutes, after 5
24:43minutes. And after that, if I laid down
24:45, it's still the case. Now, I have kept
24:48this connection. If I lie down and tell
24:50myself I'm connecting with me,
24:52connecting with my soul, connecting
24:54with the other part of me, with my
24:55higher self to rest. If I’m not too
24:58stressed, if I’m not in an
25:00environment that has made me really
25:02anxious, I can get into that slightly
25:05detached state in 3 or 4 minutes. So
25:07that was a very powerful experience. It
25:09was almost the beginning of my
25:11understanding that the body, and the
25:14bodies, the invisible, something is
25:17going on. H
25:19After that, I had another very
25:21important step. I think I really need
25:23to tell you about this one. Basically,
25:27still in high school, I had some young
25:31people in my class. So we weren't kids
25:35anymore. We were already in a bit of a
25:38...we weren't in a vocational class,
25:41but we were heading toward more
25:43professional studies, so we had more
25:46professional courses, and the teachers
25:49were more relaxed, you see. It was, we
25:52weren't really in a strict school
25:54setting anymore. And it's true that in
25:56class, we would easily tell each other
25:57if we were hurting somewhere. We would
26:00talk amongst ourselves, and I actually
26:01liked that situation. I was already
26:03feeling more comfortable with my
26:05emotions, and I remember a young guy
26:07who had a lot of pain in his arm, he
26:09had some kind of tendonitis, and I just
26:11walk up like it's nothing. But I don't
26:14know how, I walk up and my hands just
26:15say," Oh wait, I'm going to take your
26:17pain away, "and I come over suddenly so
26:19sure of myself. Now, I hadn't really
26:21done it except for my little dog. I had
26:24a little dog, but apart from her, and
26:26she couldn't give me any feedback, I
26:28hadn't done it. And there, I arrive
26:30casually, I place my hands, and I
26:32concentrate. And then, the mechanism
26:35that took place was that I told myself,
26:37well, if something is okay for him,
26:40then may his pain disappear. And there,
26:44I felt things happening in my hands,
26:46but minimal. However, he looks at me
26:49and says," Are you serious? "He didn't
26:52have any pain left. So then, he tells
26:55everyone in the class about it. The
26:57teacher arrives. What's going on, Julie
26:59? What are you doing, acting like a
27:00witch? Are you a faith healer? He comes
27:04in just like that. Well, I was actually
27:07pretty happy that day. That was the
27:10first little step where I started
27:12feeling happy. On the other hand, I
27:14really paid for it afterward. I mean,
27:16two or three hours later, tendinitis,
27:18it was horrible. So, I ended up relying
27:21on anti-inflammatories to get through
27:24it. I didn't know how to handle it
27:25anymore. And then I thought," Ah, okay,
27:28there really is something in the
27:29invisible, but careful, it comes at a
27:31price. "You see, that's when I
27:33understood. So, it's one of those
27:35milestones where you become something
27:37or someone else, you see?
27:39Hm.
27:41And then there was the professional
27:42milestone. Afterward,
27:45what I find interesting about what
27:46you're telling me is that it feels like
27:48there are a few key moments where the
27:49memory came back almost automatically,
27:51and I'd be curious to understand. What
27:54is your understanding today of where
27:56that memory comes from? Like, where do
27:58those automatic responses come from,
28:00and what does it mean for your true
28:02nature?
28:04Well, uh, I have several
28:07interpretations today. I have one that
28:10is more advanced, deeper. I might allow
28:13myself to say it here because I figure
28:16if your audience is here, it's because,
28:18yeah. or at the very least, they want
28:20to be. And even in the worst case, it
28:23doesn't matter; I offer this with a lot
28:25of humility and simplicity. At the
28:27beginning, I didn't understand. I just
28:30thought I might have inherited
28:33something, because my father had used
28:36the word" bone-setter "to describe me.
28:42But today, I understand because I have
28:45a very deep connection with other
28:48beings who tell me they are cosmic
28:51beings and are my guides. There are
28:56several categories of beings, there are
28:58really those who help me work to heal,
28:59but I have some who only look after me
29:01and tell me I come from elsewhere. And
29:05so now, I understand that I am bringing
29:06this knowledge back from elsewhere. I
29:08know very precisely—I won't go into
29:11detail this time because it would be,
29:13yeah, well, it's a bit personal—but I
29:16really know where I come from and why,
29:18but for sure, this ability, I brought
29:20it with me. However, at the start of my
29:23life, that's what I really want
29:25everyone to understand. As humans, we
29:28conform to a mold and an image, within
29:30an ego. It's our ego that's terrified,
29:32you know, we have to be clear about
29:33that. Nothing else. It's our ego that
29:35doesn't want to disappoint our birth
29:37family, our parents, our cousins. And
29:39we haven't shown that side of ourselves
29:40. So, to come back nonchalantly and say
29:43," Oh well, I'm picking up on things,
29:45I'm seeing images, I'm seeing holograms
29:47, all of that showing up in my room,
29:49all of that telling me that I'm going
29:51to develop a talent, a gift. "Anyway,
29:53you know, I didn't know how to say it
29:54at first. Besides, I don't really like
29:55those words. I don't like it when
29:57people tell me I have a gift, you see,
29:59because I...I learned how to, how to,
30:03well, use it and especially put it into
30:05practice, not by distortion, but
30:07because I...I had faith, in fact, that
30:10famous faith I was asked to have. And
30:13there were these different stages, and
30:15in particular an extremely important
30:17stage which was a turning point, a very
30:20, very big one, it was that of the
30:22experience with my dad who was...So, I
30:24told you he was a house painter. So one
30:28day, he comes home from work, he had
30:30fallen, I don't remember from how many
30:33meters he fell, but he smashed into a
30:35scaffolding bar below, right in his
30:37ribs. So he was in a lot of pain. He
30:41had at the time, I remember, a kind of
30:42big elastic bandage that we had to wrap
30:44him in. We had to put some Nifluril on
30:46him, you know, and we had to wrap him
30:48in that elastic bandage. And one
30:50Saturday at noon, my mother was doing
30:52the dishes, he says to me," Hey, can
30:53you help me? I hold the bandage and
30:55then I turn and wrap myself in it to
30:57hurt less. "And I said," Well wait,
30:59let's put the Nifluril on first. "So
31:02you know, he gets into position, he
31:03waits for me to apply the Nifluril to
31:05his back. Except that there, something
31:07really happened, uh, I tell it every
31:09time, but it was yet another of those
31:11truly incredible stages. There, my
31:14hands began to perceive, uh, heat, cold
31:17, uh, magnetic sensations, tingling. I
31:21felt where the nerves were cut, and I
31:23had the info," the nerves are cut here.
31:25"" There's inflammation here, make it
31:27go away. "And I started using my hands
31:29to do things. And my father turned
31:32around, a bit like that other classmate
31:34, looking as if to say," Wait, this
31:36actually feels good. "" I feel like...I
31:40feel like I'm in less pain, you see. "
31:42So then, I remember being very scared
31:44because he called my mother." Patti,
31:47come see the kid, she's a bone-setter.
31:49"That was it. So for me, that was, I'm
31:52telling you, like Satan himself, I was
31:55terrified. At that point I really said
31:58stop, it's too much for me. H
32:01But I went upstairs to my room for a
32:03moment, and my father said," I promise
32:06you, it did me good, I'm in way less
32:08pain. "And I told him," Well, Dad, I
32:11had visions, I saw you fall from a car,
32:13well, some kind of van. "I had visions
32:16of what was blocked in my fingers. You
32:19know, I was being sent a signal that
32:21there were slightly severed nerves
32:23there. There, a blow had been struck to
32:26the muscle. You see, I could see
32:29through things, not with my eyes. I
32:33could see through a projection, in my
32:35understanding, there was a second
32:37version of myself seeing inside the
32:39body how it was built and where it was
32:40hurt. And right then, I thought, this
32:44is huge.
32:45And how did he react when you told him
32:47that?
32:47Well, he was actually really happy. I
32:49mean, to him, I was a bone-setter,
32:51period, because he had already met some
32:54. That's why I say that while we
32:56weren't in our family,
32:57I couldn't tell you that we were
32:59closed-minded, that we didn't believe.
33:00It would be a lie to say that. But
33:03there had also already been experiences
33:05with slightly strange phenomena in my
33:07family, with my maternal grandmother,
33:10things she told us about, saying she
33:12had experienced this or that which was
33:14extraordinary, or at least uncommon. So
33:18, you know, we would listen to that,
33:19but it hadn't happened to us. But my
33:22father had encountered bone-setters in
33:25his life. And I even remember
33:28afterwards, after that session where
33:30that happened in my hands, I realized
33:32that I myself had been in contact with
33:34a man who was a bone-setter, and who
33:36had put my heel back in place when I
33:37was little because I had hurt myself on
33:39a bike. So, actually, my parents
33:42weren't closed off to that. So my
33:44father immediately said," Hey, come see
33:45the girl, she's a bone-setter. "And
33:47it's true that for me, the word was
33:49actually terrifying. I felt like it was
33:51bordering on witchcraft, you know. So
33:53that just reinforced my fear.
33:55That's what I find, that's what I find
33:57quite funny, is that we often have
33:59these fears. I don't, I don't feel like
34:01I have any special skills. Uh, but on
34:04the other hand, it's true that this
34:06podcast is an opening, and it's true
34:07that for a long time I was, and
34:09actually before doing this podcast in
34:11French, I did a podcast in English that
34:13didn't work out, uh, because I was
34:15afraid of being exposed in French.
34:16Yeah. Exactly. But what's funny is that
34:19, a bit like you, I get the impression
34:21that the anxiety, we're pushed, but
34:23mostly the anxiety actually came from
34:25me. And once I started, I took the
34:27plunge and said to myself," Okay, this
34:28is my reality, I'll own it, uh, I'm
34:30doing a podcast in French, "but I
34:32realized that most of the people around
34:34me,
34:35not only were they not against it, but
34:36they were actually kind of open to it.
34:37Well, some were because they had
34:38perhaps experienced things themselves.
34:40And yeah. And what you're saying is
34:42true. And often, now that I talk about
34:43it more and more, actually, there are,
34:45there are many people, uh, who have had
34:47even more things happen to them than me
34:48, and I say, but...and people, they
34:50just brush it off. It's, well, it
34:52doesn't really fit into their system of
34:54thought, their belief system, so it's
34:56just info they tuck away somewhere in
34:57their heads and they won't dig any
34:59deeper.
35:01Today, you see, if you had, if we had
35:03known each other when I was little and
35:05you had asked me back then, uh, what
35:07job I wanted to do, I would have told
35:09you, uh, I remember very well saying
35:12this to everyone:" I want to be a
35:13businesswoman, I'll work in a big tower
35:16in New York and I don't want anyone
35:18bossing me around. "So I want to work
35:21for myself. And for me, the symbol of
35:24being free and working for myself was
35:26my little briefcase, I'm a salesperson
35:28or I am, and then I'm in a big tower in
35:30New York. I think we watched too many
35:33American shows back then, even though I
35:35wasn't really into TV, but it was my
35:37symbol. And you see, it was
35:39hyper-material. Well, uh, not financial
35:41, mind you, but material, meaning I do
35:43a job, I spend hours on it, I have an
35:44office, I have a computer, and that's
35:46the only way we can earn a living.
35:48Anything else isn't recognized by me.
35:50And ultimately, today, realizing that I
35:52went all the way to a BTS in sales, I
35:55must have left school when I was about
35:5721, I think. I had a very traditional
36:00academic background. I was very
36:02diligent in school. I wasn't
36:04necessarily an excellent student, I was
36:05more of a good student. But, you see, I
36:09didn't become what I trained for. It
36:13means that all those stages I went
36:16through, some of which were very
36:19impressive, served my true calling, if
36:22you will. But little by little, my fear
36:25also served me because, for me, it's
36:28healthy, and that fear means I'm
36:30grounded, I'm not some scatterbrain. So
36:33that's why I'm telling you, I'm a
36:35medium, I see things, I converse with
36:37the departed. Well, they're the ones
36:39conversing with me. I never call upon
36:42the dead. I really want to state that
36:44because we often get that kind of
36:46criticism when interviewed, being told,
36:48" Yes, you must leave the dead where
36:50they are. "But I actually completely
36:52agree. But they are the ones who come.
36:55They are the ones who come to me.
36:56Yeah. They are the ones who come to me,
36:58uh, when they do. Much more so the
37:01guides who help, quote-unquote, heal my
37:03consultants. But it's the dead who come
37:05to give us pointers. So, you see, I
37:09went through stages that mean today,
37:12being someone grounded also means
37:14allowing yourself at some point to have
37:17enough faith in yourself to take off
37:19higher and, precisely, open up to
37:22something. Because if from a very young
37:26age you're someone who isn't grounded,
37:28I think that, luckily, you might not be
37:30heading toward something less grounded,
37:33because you wouldn't have that
37:35foundation which I find is healthy and
37:37which sustains your daily life. So
37:40afterward, other quite impressive
37:42things happened to me. So, I had just
37:46had my daughter, who's almost 20 now,
37:51and I have this little story I like to
37:57tell. Uh. I met a man at a pharmacy
38:05because I was going to get some
38:07homeopathy, and this man, this man
38:09spotted me from across the room. There
38:14were several people working in the
38:16pharmacy, and one of the clerks or
38:18salespeople looked at me from afar.
38:21Well, there were tons of people in
38:22front of me. There was a huge line, and
38:23he was just staring at me from over
38:24there. He kept doing that, and I didn't
38:26even know him. I’d just been told I
38:28should go to that pharmacy because
38:29there was a man there who did
38:31homeopathy. So I was told to ask around
38:33once I got there, see who it was, and
38:35he could prescribe some homeo. Uh,
38:36another thing I didn't really believe
38:39in either, by the way. And the man sees
38:41me, spots me, and I think," What is his
38:44problem with me? "So I think," Yeah,
38:46right, another creep, forget it. "And
38:50finally, when it was my turn, I asked
38:52one of the clerks who the person doing
38:55homeopathy was. They said," Is it him
38:58over there? "And I said," Oh! "Oh, okay
39:01. Well, I thought," It's impossible for
39:04him to have known I was coming because
39:05the person who recommended it didn't
39:07tell him. "Plus, I never said when I
39:10would come, you see. I must have come
39:12two months later, and to be honest, it
39:13just wasn't possible, and I hadn't told
39:15anyone. And he looks at me straight
39:19from behind his little, his little
39:22booth with all his products. Then he
39:26tells me," You will be a therapist,
39:28you're a medium, you're refusing it for
39:30now because you're scared of what
39:32people will say, but you'll have an
39:35incredible number of patients. "" You
39:37have to do it. "I was absolutely
39:40stunned. I said," Are you the one who
39:43does homeopathy? "" I'm here for
39:45homeopathy. "I brought the conversation
39:48back down to earth. I remember I had
39:50the car seat with my baby in it, and he
39:52sold me his homeo. But at the end, he
39:55said," Give me your phone number. "And
39:58I don't know why I did it. I never
40:00would have done that before. And I gave
40:02it to him, thinking it didn't matter
40:04even if his intentions weren't pure. My
40:07husband would be the one to get the
40:09call, handle it politely, and set him
40:11straight. But that’s not at all what
40:13happened. That's when they came looking
40:15for me. So one day, a Wednesday morning
40:18, I remember, I was driving, I had gone
40:20to have my coffee in the city center of
40:22my town. I had my little one in the car
40:25seat behind me. I was at the wheel. I
40:28get a call. Now, that's not good. I
40:31answered because I had the, I had the
40:34wires in. So I wasn't bothered. I
40:38answer. So there, it was 2006, the very
40:40beginning of 2006, and I answer and
40:42there's a lady, a charming lady who
40:45says to me," Hello ma'am, I would like
40:47an appointment. "" But I said, "An
40:49appointment for what?""Well, aren't you
40:51a therapist? Aren't you a magnetizer or
40:53a medium, I don't know.""And there, I
40:55swear to you Réy, I still remember, I
40:57gripped my steering wheel in my hands
40:59and I said," Ah, okay, well it's time.
41:01"" And I heard, "Oh well it's time, I
41:03have no choice anymore.""You see, I
41:04heard, I have no choice anymore. And
41:06there, I said to myself," Oh yeah, you
41:07hear things, huh. "" And it took me 15
41:09days to take this charming little lady
41:11into care because I didn't know what I
41:12was going to be able to do for her. And
41:15everything happened that day. I sat her
41:16down at my place on a little stool. Uh,
41:19I told her a billion times, "It's free,
41:21right, we agree?" It's free. "You
41:23especially don't give me anything, I
41:24don't know what I'm going to do, you
41:25know." And as soon as I sat down next
41:28to her, it's as if I had said yes to
41:29the universe. I received something that
41:33I almost felt like a duplicate of my
41:35body settling over me. And there, I
41:37felt that famous thing I say all the
41:39time now. I feel the connection coming
41:42and everything came. I saw her pain, I
41:45saw her love life, I saw her childhood
41:48history, I saw the illnesses in her
41:50body and I was terrified. When I told
41:53her, "Oh well, there's arthritis here."
41:55Oh yes, yes, she told me it's true,
41:57exactly where I touched, I was there.
41:59Oh yeah, it's true. Oh, it's true, the
42:01arthritis. She must have thought this
42:03girl is completely out of it. But it
42:05was my first experience. I truly
42:07discovered myself there even more
42:08strongly than with my dad. There,
42:10everything really came with visions in
42:12my eyes. So there
42:14Funny, sometimes the universe has a way
42:15of putting us back on the right path
42:17when we aren't necessarily listening.
42:19Well, I wasn't listening gently like
42:21that, and sometimes it's a bit more
42:23brutal.
42:24Well, in this case, they sent it to me
42:26pretty head-on, because this man told
42:28me that 15 days earlier, took my number
42:30, and gave my number to this person. So
42:34, at the beginning, I started my life
42:37more as a magnetizer because I quit my
42:40job; I had a sales job at a local
42:42newspaper where I sold advertising, ad
42:45spaces.
42:46And before we get into the story or go
42:48back into the story, what is your
42:50understanding of what you connect to
42:52when this type of healing happens?
42:55Where do you go to find this
42:56information? Are you the one going to
42:57look for it? Does it come to you? And
43:00what is the
43:01for the rationalists listening to us
43:03who are trying to understand the logic
43:05and mechanics behind these phenomena a
43:07bit,
43:07how do you understand these phenomena
43:09today? Well, you have to understand
43:13that everything I say here only comes
43:15from my perspective, is only linked to
43:17my experience, and I'm not trying to
43:18convince anyone. If it can help those
43:23who have questions or are afraid of
43:26people like us, well, then that's great
43:28.
43:30It’s true that you've been very scary
43:30since the beginning. I'm thinking, "
43:32Yeah, I'm traumatized, and she seems so
43:34unfriendly too." Yeah, I'm super
43:38unfriendly. I'm known for that in my
43:40region. Actually, to explain what we
43:43connect to, we still have to say that
43:45you shouldn't think we have mastery
43:47over the invisible. Someone who tells
43:50you tomorrow, "Yes, I know exactly what
43:52my connection is, I'm sure of it." I
43:55almost want to tell you that I'd avoid
43:57them like the plague because we sense
43:58what we're connecting to. But again, to
44:02say that my piece of furniture is
44:04furniture, I put my hand on it, I can
44:06tell you that. But to assure you of
44:09something in the invisible, you have to
44:13be very careful, because that's where
44:17you go from being, how should I put it?
44:21An ethical person to someone who turns
44:23into a guru, and that is what I don't
44:25like. So really, I take care to say be
44:28careful, we are connecting with things
44:31that tell us, uh, often who they are or
44:34what they are. Because sometimes, these
44:37are truly vibrations, vibratory
44:38entities that we do not encounter at
44:40all on our Earth. But we also have a
44:43feeling for these these entities beyond
44:46beyond perhaps the fact that they tell
44:48us who they are. For me, I feel—so I
44:52say it through my own lens—I feel
44:54guides who are next to me, often two or
44:57three, sometimes four, who help me to,
44:59I use the word heal, but let's not take
45:02it in a medical sense, okay? I don't
45:05want to draw the wrath of the medical
45:06world. I say heal as in care, like when
45:09we provide the right care to someone.
45:12But for example, when consulting with
45:14someone, I feel my guides, I feel the
45:16person's guides, and I feel this
45:18connection that happens. So sometimes
45:21at several levels, at several layers,
45:23there are beings who will, uh, make me
45:25feel that they are of a cosmic
45:27vibration. I have a hard time
45:31understanding the difference for them
45:33between what is cosmic and what is, uh,
45:35Christ-like. Except that I feel there
45:37are beings that are Christ-like. There
45:39are some who tell me "We are
45:40Christ-like." And I feel that their
45:44luminescence is higher, whiter, more
45:47more light. When it's cosmic, it's
45:51often a glow because I also perceive,
45:53as a result, a bit of the form and and
45:55the vibration even in my body and then
45:57in my head. The glow is more bluish and
46:00they will often speak to me about the
46:01stars. It has links with the planets,
46:04with astrology. They will make links
46:06for me. Uh, they will also tell me
46:09sometimes it comes from Sirius, it
46:11comes from Orion, uh sometimes from
46:13planets I don't know. Uh so I sometimes
46:16they speak to me in a language that I
46:18don't understand by ear but that I
46:21understand internally. Sometimes, I
46:23will say words, sounds, or or types of
46:25phrases that are not in my language
46:27either and which are not a human
46:28language. I don't think so, in any case
46:31, not to this day. Huh.
46:33And then I feel well that I I also
46:35connect with the world of the deceased
46:38once again, uh behind what I call the
46:40invisible. That's why I always say "the
46:43invisible" in general, because it's
46:44easier for everyone to understand, and
46:46also because I don't really like
46:48putting things in boxes to say: "Oh yes
46:50, I connected with this, it was...it
46:52was Christic energy, it was someone
46:53talking to me about Mary Magdalene." I
46:56don't really like to insist on that. I
46:59say it to people who I sense, and I
47:02mostly have, uh, 99%of clients who are
47:05extremely open-minded, but my core
47:07business is mainly connecting to the
47:10origin of the wound to see where it
47:13materialized. So it's true that I
47:16explain all that, but I don't waste an
47:18incredible amount of time explaining
47:20which plane I'm connecting to. However,
47:22when I receive spirits of the deceased,
47:24when I'm in a connection and I detect,
47:27for example, that a lady's
47:28endometriosis or a man's cancer is
47:30linked, for example, to the fact that
47:32his dad used to hit him when he was 4,
47:345, or 6 years old, well, sometimes I'll
47:37have a deceased person who will say: "
47:39Well, I'm his great-grandfather or I'm
47:41his great-great, or he didn't know me,
47:43or we only knew each other for a very
47:45short time. But I need to have you
47:47connect to his care because you'll be
47:50able to heal something in him that I
47:52experienced." So there, I do what's
47:55called transgenerational work because
47:57the client carries a memory linked to
47:59this person. And you see, my job, if I
48:03could really explain it, beyond just
48:05connecting, because knowing who you
48:08connect with is maybe not the most
48:10interesting part, it's about being able
48:13to effectively transmit what you
48:15connect with. I've managed to clearly
48:18feel when someone speaks to me, when it
48:20comes from a deceased person, that's
48:22very clear when it comes from a
48:23deceased person, much more so, they
48:25aren't in the same place. It's almost
48:28as if I had them in, I won't say in the
48:30room, but yeah, actually, in the room,
48:32with a substance that's almost denser,
48:34more physical. However, it's true that
48:38when it's cosmic or when it's Christic,
48:40or when I'm reading a past life, I
48:42don't see it in the same way. A past
48:45life, they show it to me on my left and
48:47they make me see it as if I were
48:49watching a movie. But I have a tendency
48:53to turn to my left and look and say, "
48:55Ah yes, in your past life," because I
48:57see it on the timeline, you know, they
48:59speak to me a lot through symbols. So,
49:02by placing a timeline above my eyes,
49:04it's almost holographic, you see, by
49:06placing the timeline, they tell me, "
49:07Well, you see, this is his present life
49:09, this man is sick with this, but in
49:11his past life, look, he was wounded in
49:13that spot.""So, you have something to
49:17clear in the past life, but you also
49:19have a connection with his guide who
49:22wants to show you how, in his present
49:24life, this man has revived this illness
49:27in an echo." Why did he choose those
49:30parents? Because you see, his mother
49:32carried that suffering. So this man is
49:34managing that suffering for his mother,
49:36and sometimes they'll tell me, "Well,
49:37he is very connected to such and such
49:39type of energy," like he is very
49:41connected to water. So then I will have
49:44other faculties to see that I can
49:46reconnect him with the aquatic
49:48environment. So, it could be someone
49:51who says to me during the session, "But
49:53this is completely crazy, because when
49:55I was a child, I couldn't stop swimming
49:56...But then, one day, I stopped because
49:58of work, because of...And, in fact, I
50:00keep telling myself that I need to go
50:01back into the water, but I couldn't
50:03anymore.""And I say, 'Well, you have to
50:05reconnect.'""So there, in the invisible
50:08, I reconnect, I do things with my
50:10hands." I lay things back down, I clean
50:12, I cut, I—oh, I sometimes think the
50:14neighbors must wonder, what is she
50:16doing? She's tinkering in the air.
50:18Fortunately, I put up some opaque
50:20curtains, but there you go, so there
50:22are these things.
50:23Precisely in relation to that, and it's
50:25super interesting. I think we've opened
50:27many doors and. And I think, and I find
50:29it super interesting to lift the hood a
50:31little and to understand that, well
50:33actually, in this big pile that we
50:35consider to be the subtle world, the
50:36invisible world, well actually, there
50:38is quite a lot of complexity, quite a
50:40lot of nuances, and that it's full,
50:42it's an aggregate of many different
50:43things.
50:44Yeah, that's it.
50:45And what I understand from what you're
50:46saying is that when you're in a session
50:48, it's actually not a rigid thing, it's
50:49something very fluid. It's actually
50:51like you have a team that works with
50:53you and lends a hand. You have the
50:55person's team, you have helpers that
50:56come and go, and in fact, it depends on
50:58the person you have in front of you.
51:00Well, every consultation is different,
51:02but people consult me, for example,
51:04because they have a repetitive pattern
51:05in their life they can't seem to break
51:07free from. It could be a couple, a
51:10romantic relationship, it could be
51:12because, well, they are in a treatment
51:14process for cancer and they want to go
51:15and understand something a little
51:17deeper that is blocking them. It could
51:21be because they have an eating disorder
51:23, because they are dyslexic, because
51:25they think, "Hey, I'm facing a life
51:27change, I don't know what's happening
51:29to me, I feel bad, I'm not sleeping, or
51:31I'm terrified," and they consult me
51:33really saying, "Well, look, I've been
51:35in a relationship for 5 years, I don't
51:37feel good, can you tell me what's going
51:40on?" And that's when my team gets to
51:43work, just like you said. So, I have
51:45learned, however, to truly have faith
51:48in myself. So that's the same, I'm
51:49careful how I say it because I wouldn't
51:51want to seem pretentious, but I really
51:53have faith in myself. Meaning that no
51:55matter who consults me, I listen to
51:57myself, even if the person tells me, "
51:59No, no, I want us to work on this
52:00specific thing.""Yes, but what's coming
52:04to me now is what happened to you
52:05during your parents 'separation when
52:07you were still in your mother's womb."
52:11For me, as long as I haven't repaired
52:12that, as long as I haven't returned to
52:15that cellular memory, as long as we
52:16haven't detached that, as long as we
52:18haven't truly brought you back into
52:20symbiosis with yourself, we can't move
52:22forward. Because your whims or your
52:25emotional difficulties come from there,
52:27because there's a memory there. So, I
52:29start from zero. And it's true that
52:32it's very important to me. That's why I
52:34laugh about the zero point. It's
52:36because my work is to find the zero
52:39point precisely, I always say the root,
52:42the true beginning of things. So,
52:45sometimes I find it in a past life;
52:47sometimes I find it in utero for people
52:49; sometimes it’s both in a past life
52:51and in utero. And, right now, it’s
52:53echoing and replaying because, as a
52:55result, the person is reliving the same
52:56pattern. She doesn’t understand that
52:58the rejection she’s experiencing is
52:59the same one she felt with her father,
53:01which is the same one she encounters at
53:02work because, on top of that, she
53:04thinks she’s ugly. Since she rejects
53:05herself, she only experiences rejection
53:07. So I disconnect, if you will, into
53:09many spaces, both on different physical
53:11bodies and also into other space-times.
53:14I always tell people, I warn them, "
53:16Watch out, I’m going to open a
53:18space-time door because I’m going
53:19into space-time." So I verbalize it,
53:22you listen to me, you let it happen,
53:24and I go in, and then I describe what I
53:26see. So I’m going to pick up on what
53:28the mother was feeling when the baby
53:29was in the womb. What did the fetus
53:31feel? What happened? So often people
53:34tell me, "Oh, well, actually, yes, yes,
53:35I almost died.""I clearly see that
53:37accident because my mother told me
53:39about it." So I will perceive these
53:41things, and then I disconnect into the
53:43physical, but into an invisible
53:45physical. And people often feel me,
53:47very, very often people tell me, "Well,
53:48it’s crazy, I feel you in my body."
53:50So I am at a distance; I work through
53:52telephone consultations. I don’t use
53:55video calls, I don’t like video for
53:57this because, you see, I’m in my
53:59chair, I’m in my healing space, and
54:01I’m with myself, you see. And it’s
54:03actually very fluid, and it’s very
54:06organized, very logical. And I am shown
54:08things sometimes even physically in a
54:10holographic way. I see patterns appear
54:13before me to help me understand that
54:15when the person arrived, they refused
54:17their incarnation. So I am shown a
54:19little pink meteorite that represents
54:21the person. Then I see it bumping
54:24against its mother’s uterus. And you
54:26see, sometimes "her mother" is written
54:28on it, you see, they send me diagrams.
54:30It’s almost like Pictionary, you see.
54:33It’s like playing charades, it’s
54:35quite funny.
54:35Yeah. Uh, what I find interesting in
54:39what you're saying is that I feel it
54:41aligns with a realization that
54:43traditional medicine is starting to
54:45understand: that when we have an
54:47ailment, a symptom, well, there's often
54:49a cause that's deeper than what we see.
54:53You see, what you're telling me is that
54:54sometimes it's even deeper than what
54:56traditional medicine thinks. Meaning,
54:58it's not necessarily just an emotional
55:00shock, anxiety, and so on. But that
55:02perhaps even that anxiety also has a
55:04cause that can go back even further.
55:06I’d like to make a quick aside about
55:08your mention of remote healing. That is
55:12something my rational mind still has a
55:13lot of trouble with, which is telling
55:15myself, "Okay," and maybe still
55:18come on
55:19in line with classical medicine, which
55:21is that we are a machine.
55:23We aren't going to go repair a broken
55:25car from a distance, and for it to be
55:26fixed, you have to take it to the
55:28mechanic, and he'll change the part; I
55:30think there's a bit of that thought
55:31pattern that makes it hard for me to
55:33I understand you
55:33to understand
55:34why it’s possible for you to actually
55:37provide this kind of remote care.
55:40Well, first of all, for example, how
55:42could you go and repair what happened
55:44in the life of my client when it
55:46happened back in the Middle Ages? For
55:50example, a hanging, a murder, or a
55:52judgment, a judgment that shouldn't
55:54have been, which then leads to a
55:56complex experience with the justice
55:58system. How do you do it, Rémy, at
56:01your doctor's, or your psychologist's,
56:04or your surgeon's, uh, or even at your
56:06lawyer's, because you're at your
56:09lawyer's because you have an issue that
56:11isn't working out right now in your
56:14legal affairs? How do you go about
56:16repairing things if I am not in this
56:18invisible realm? If I don't have the
56:20capacity to repair, well, you see, we
56:22would be stuck. And that was the case,
56:25let's say, in past centuries; I'd
56:27almost say that before, we had more
56:29awareness of this invisible, but let's
56:32say that the modern world has really
56:34obscured this part of us that can go
56:37and repair across space-time. And I
56:40realize that it's very complicated to
56:41understand, because you can well
56:43imagine that what I told you earlier
56:44about my rational mind—you can well
56:46imagine, Rémy, that it bothered me
56:47enormously. So, I started exactly, uh,
56:50yes, it's because I didn't actually
56:52explain the progression I’ve made.
56:54It's, it's because we didn't explain
56:56that, it's because I actually left a
56:57rational career. I'm just going over
56:59this loop so you understand why I'm
57:01doing consultations like this today.
57:03Because that wasn't the case at the
57:04start and if you had told me, I would
57:06have said forget it and your charlatan
57:08stuff isn't for me. So I completely
57:10understand that some people have
57:11questions. And uh, to explain to you, I
57:14left a rational career. So I was
57:17telling you that uh, I was in sales and
57:19then uh, I had my uh, my daughter and
57:22so I was pregnant with my daughter uh,
57:25but I intended to go back to my sales
57:27job and uh, I really felt the calling,
57:30I mean one morning I just couldn't go
57:32to work. It was physical. Uh, I had
57:37recurring gastritis, I had liters of
57:39acid in my stomach, I was vomiting, I
57:41was on the verge of fainting. In other
57:43words, I couldn't go to that office
57:45anymore. And yet, I got along great
57:47with my colleagues, really. It really
57:48had nothing to do with the job, really.
57:49I, I loved my job, but not enough, it
57:52didn't have any meaning, not enough to
57:55stay, not enough to keep going in the
57:57end. And uh, I, I get pregnant with my
58:00daughter, but at the time, I don't know
58:02it yet when I, when I decide to stop
58:04everything, to leave my job abruptly
58:06for pretty much, well, for nothing
58:08actually. I left with a leap of faith
58:10and I think they tested me up there for
58:12that too. They wanted to see if I would
58:14cling to material things and a salary
58:16that was good, too, for the time
58:18because I was, I was 23, 24 years old
58:19and I had a very good salary and I left
58:21it for nothing, telling myself this
58:23isn't what I want to be. What I want to
58:26do is what I do with my advertising
58:27clients, it's spending time listening
58:29to them and talking with them. I didn't
58:31care about selling them advertising
58:32because, in fact, I was only listening
58:34to their heart problems, ultimately.
58:35You see, I trained myself a little bit
58:37without knowing it. If you will, life
58:38worked out well, it led me gently
58:40toward this. And then uh, so I left
58:43just like that, with nothing lined up.
58:47And that's when they very quickly
58:49introduced me to this gentleman who
58:50sent me that lady, that phone call. I
58:52think I was, quote-unquote, encouraged
58:55to continue. They saw that I had, that
58:58I had let things happen. I was young, I
59:01was 23 or 24 when I accepted it. You
59:04see, it was 2006, you know. It was 20
59:07years ago for me, that total shift
59:09toward a job that seemed unreal. So at
59:12first, I didn't know what I was
59:13supposed to do with it. So I told
59:16myself, well, I'll set up as a
59:18reflexologist or, uh, I'll do
59:20relaxation massage. I have to find a
59:23label because I needed a label. You
59:25know, to me, in this world, we exist
59:27with an image, a label. So I said to
59:29myself, I need a label. So I started
59:30wanting to take courses, and the first
59:32day of training, I would get sick. From
59:35the day I went to the training until
59:38the moment I got home. So I wasn't able
59:40to do any of them. I went home and I
59:42heard in my head, "Don't you understand
59:44yet that you have everything in your
59:45hands?" And I said, "But I have
59:48everything, what?" And then, in one
59:52night, it shifted, and the very next
59:54day I said, "Okay, okay, okay, I will
59:55take people." So there was that
59:58experience with that lady, and after
1:00:00that, well, I agreed to open up. And
1:00:03that lady, in the meantime, told
1:00:04everyone around her because she wasn't
1:00:06in pain anymore, she was doing well,
1:00:08and she told everyone around her, and
1:00:10within a year, I was just swamped with
1:00:12work. Today, I work in many different
1:00:14countries. As long as they speak French
1:00:17, sometimes I call Hawaii, I call New
1:00:18Zealand. You see, it’s fascinating,
1:00:22even the people's accents, I love it—
1:00:23in Reunion, in Canada—and, you see,
1:00:25it happens very fast, actually; when
1:00:27it's in the right place, it develops.
1:00:29And so at the beginning, I opened a
1:00:31treatment practice in my home. I had a
1:00:34treatment table, and I was doing,
1:00:37let’s say, magnetism. But you can bet
1:00:39they didn't get off my back up there.
1:00:41They said, "She wants to do magnetism
1:00:43because she wants to do things right.""
1:00:45As you were saying, a body is a body,
1:00:47so we're going to give her what she
1:00:49wants." Oh, but don't worry, they gave
1:00:50me exactly what I wanted. I had an
1:00:52uncountable number of patients. To date
1:00:54, I must be approaching 8,000 patients
1:00:57today. You see, it’s huge when I
1:01:00think about it in terms of...These are
1:01:02also levels of experience, you see,
1:01:04because every hour spent with a patient
1:01:06, well, that's 8,000 hours, let's say,
1:01:08approximately. uh, for me today, you
1:01:11see, of lived experience and
1:01:13understanding. So, you see, at the
1:01:15beginning, I started in the physical
1:01:16realm, but in that realm, well, I felt
1:01:18things with my hands, incredible things
1:01:20. I was setting things back in order, I
1:01:22hadn’t learned anything, mind you,
1:01:23but I already had the same vocabulary.
1:01:24People would tell me, "Oh, that’s
1:01:25crazy, I'm reading a book about
1:01:26magnetism." It talks about this, it
1:01:29talks about this chakra, and for me, it
1:01:31just came out as if there was someone
1:01:33there doing it with other hands, hands
1:01:35that I sometimes even saw glowing as if
1:01:37I had double fingers and I was placing
1:01:39my hands. And so it was great, except
1:01:43that, well, it was too physically
1:01:45demanding. Actually, I had two children
1:01:47, I had built my house, and set up my
1:01:49treatment room in my home. Uh, I had
1:01:52seven patients—well, I say patients
1:01:54again, but clients. Seven clients a day
1:01:57. I had a 4-month waiting list. Can you
1:02:00imagine? It was awful. I had 2 hours of
1:02:02phone calls in the evening to schedule
1:02:04appointments. I couldn't handle it
1:02:06anymore, really. I was a bit of a
1:02:07victim of my own success, but I didn't
1:02:09know what was in store for me. So
1:02:11that’s also a warning I like to give.
1:02:13Be careful, it doesn't come for free on
1:02:16our physical body. So I had two
1:02:18burnouts. I physically crashed. Twice.
1:02:21Meaning one morning, I could no longer
1:02:23stand on my legs. I couldn't get up
1:02:25anymore, I couldn't receive my patients
1:02:26. I was forced to cancel on people over
1:02:29the phone. And, uh, the simple fact of
1:02:32having allowed myself to do that, it
1:02:34completely stopped. I, I came back into
1:02:37shape that very same day, even though
1:02:39for a month I hadn't been walking, I
1:02:41was going down to work on my kneecaps,
1:02:43really. My husband was helping me,
1:02:45holding me under the arm, you know. So
1:02:47it was really a horrible time. And so I
1:02:50had a burnout, and then I wanted to
1:02:52welcome my 3rd child. So there, I told
1:02:54myself I'm taking a break because I
1:02:56want to welcome a third child and I
1:02:58want to give myself a break in my life.
1:03:00Once again, life is well-designed. They
1:03:02, they made me work, but differently.
1:03:05So, I was doing a lot of supervision
1:03:06for therapists. I had many doctors
1:03:09because they don't say it, but they
1:03:11consult, doctors do. So I had a lot of
1:03:15doctors, a lot of people from the
1:03:17medical field, and many therapists,
1:03:19psychologists, psychotherapists, and
1:03:21even people who were already mediums,
1:03:23people who consulted in that field. And
1:03:27those people, well, I didn't feel I
1:03:29could tell them I was stopping because
1:03:31they had a need that seemed very
1:03:32important to me. So they would tell me,
1:03:35"It's okay Julie, we're aware that
1:03:37you're pregnant, we're aware you're
1:03:38expecting your baby, so we know you
1:03:40can't work with energy.""So no worries,
1:03:42you know, if you just call me, I have
1:03:44questions, I have fears, I have doubts,
1:03:46can we, can we talk on the phone?" And
1:03:49I started during my pregnancy and my
1:03:51maternity leave to agree to answer them
1:03:53at least over the phone to keep that
1:03:55connection. And that's when I
1:03:58understood that, in fact, this is how I
1:03:59was going to work. And one day, a
1:04:01medium says to me, "Well, that's it,
1:04:02you've understood now that you were
1:04:04changing the way you work?""Did you
1:04:06hear that you could work differently?"
1:04:08And I have to tell you, it multiplied
1:04:09my abilities tenfold. I see things more
1:04:11clearly because, in fact, the body no
1:04:13longer gets in my way. The presence of
1:04:16the material body, the physical person
1:04:18is no longer there to speak to me and
1:04:19overwhelm me. I'm truly in connection
1:04:22with almost all of their deepest truth,
1:04:25you see. I see the person in the
1:04:28vibration of the sound, I see them as
1:04:31they are with all their burdens, all
1:04:33their wounds. They can't use their
1:04:36physicality to play out another story
1:04:38for me or tell me no, or the body can't
1:04:40overwhelm me with a blocked chakra.
1:04:43It's, I really go straight to the right
1:04:46origin, you see. For me, it's more of
1:04:48an evolution. Now, I'm not judging, I'm
1:04:50not saying it's an evolution for people
1:04:52who are still magnetizers or who always
1:04:55will be, and that's great, fortunately.
1:04:57But it was my own evolution, you see. I
1:05:00felt that my way of working was to go
1:05:02read the different layers of the
1:05:03invisible and to stitch up the origin
1:05:05of the wound in the invisible. And so,
1:05:08if I understand correctly, the reason
1:05:10why it works, according to you, is that
1:05:12consciousness is not local, that we are
1:05:14more than just our bodies, and that in
1:05:16fact when you connect remotely or by
1:05:18phone, it's
1:05:20the higher part of you that connects to
1:05:22the higher part of another in a plane
1:05:24where space doesn't exist like we
1:05:26understand it. That's what I was
1:05:28telling you earlier, actually. So,
1:05:30that's a good summary of what you're
1:05:31saying. I find you very insightful.
1:05:34Exactly, because I think you understand
1:05:36things well, and it's nice because it's
1:05:38not easy to make people understand who
1:05:40we are and to come here, in about an
1:05:43hour, and explain everything we are or
1:05:45everything we feel. You see, it's not
1:05:48easy to do that in a condensed way, to
1:05:50think, "Hey, it would be good to tell
1:05:52them what happened to me," but it's
1:05:54impossible. It's so vast. Yeah, what's
1:05:56also complicated is that it's not
1:05:58linear. It's, I imagine, lots of
1:05:59connected things that we have to
1:06:01translate into a linear conversation of
1:06:03this, then that, and then that.
1:06:06Exactly. I'm trying to provide an
1:06:08overview if it can help people, if
1:06:10others can relate, if others can dare
1:06:12to be who they are because of my words.
1:06:15As I told you earlier, that's the goal
1:06:18of my collective voice. And ultimately,
1:06:20well, it works, so I can no longer say
1:06:23that it doesn't work. I would have been
1:06:25one of those people who said that none
1:06:26of this could work. But I'm forced to
1:06:28admit that it does work. And it works
1:06:31because, effectively, we are not just
1:06:33this body, we are more. Mind you, this
1:06:36body needs you to take care of it, to
1:06:38nourish it properly. It's the
1:06:40foundation—that you sleep well, which
1:06:42basically means you have love for it.
1:06:45Because if you don't have love for your
1:06:47body, you can't help others, consult
1:06:48with others, and be a source of support
1:06:50or healing for someone else if you're
1:06:52not doing well yourself, you see. We
1:06:54don't look for, how should I say, a
1:06:58broken crutch to lean on, right? So, as
1:07:02a therapist, you must have a healthy
1:07:05lifestyle yourself first. So, I won't
1:07:08lie to you by saying I don't drink
1:07:09alcohol; that's absolutely not true. I
1:07:12love to drink, but I'm careful, I have
1:07:14a limit, I have a way of being good to
1:07:16myself, of pacing myself, of moderating
1:07:19. And actually, the way it works, if
1:07:22you will, is because this consciousness
1:07:24or this body we have today is not only
1:07:26in the palpable, it is also notably in
1:07:28several invisible bodies which are
1:07:29located—we won't list them here, you
1:07:31know. There is the emotional body,
1:07:34there is the, let's call it the mental
1:07:35body, the causal body, in short, uh,
1:07:37it's laborious. And then once again,
1:07:39that's not the point of the podcast, so
1:07:41we're not going to—I actually
1:07:43understood all that afterwards, too.
1:07:45But me, I'm someone who works by
1:07:47instinct. And what I—what I really
1:07:49understood, what was told to me,
1:07:51because now they speak with me in a
1:07:52much clearer way: they explain to me in
1:07:54the evening, sometimes, what I did
1:07:56during the day, why I didn't understand
1:07:58there was a planet, why they re-explain
1:08:00to me...They take the time, you know,
1:08:01because they understood that I was
1:08:03rational. And uh, so they explained to
1:08:06me that beyond the rational and the
1:08:08physical, we have we have different
1:08:10invisible bodies, but we have different
1:08:13existences with space-times in which we
1:08:15still exist and will exist tomorrow.
1:08:19Right there, okay, I understood it, but
1:08:21to say that I understand it perfectly
1:08:23well, uh, no, it's complicated in fact
1:08:26to grasp the idea that we might still
1:08:28exist in that space-time 200 years ago
1:08:30where we suffered from a rape. It's
1:08:34complicated to explain why that
1:08:36justifies endometriosis in someone,
1:08:38uterine pain, or uterine cancer. You
1:08:40know, it's complicated to explain. But
1:08:42as a result, I understood that it's
1:08:44like a loop. So, I have, uh, they
1:08:47explained to me that they made me
1:08:49navigate through space-time, through
1:08:51the spatio-temporal, and that I don't
1:08:53need to think, because, as soon as I
1:08:55connect, I actually manage to do
1:08:56something that I can't do for myself as
1:08:58Julie Verron in my life as a normal
1:09:00woman, you know, when I'm doing my
1:09:02laundry, my grocery shopping, with my
1:09:04three kids, work with my husband, uh,
1:09:06I'm not at all, I have a hard time
1:09:08disconnecting my mind. I am someone who
1:09:11is very, uh, a bit more anxious and
1:09:13very much in my head. And actually,
1:09:16however, as soon as I am, as soon as I
1:09:18sit in my chair to be in channeling for
1:09:20people, it's like the other greater
1:09:22self sits down with me. And she, she is
1:09:25doing great. All of a sudden,
1:09:26everything just settles down. She
1:09:28wanders through space-time, her mind bl
1:09:30.
1:09:30Thanks for taking over. I'm taking over
1:09:32.
1:09:33Exactly. Exactly. You see, she does
1:09:36that, she takes over, she comes down.
1:09:38That's why I always say, I always do
1:09:40this thing with my hands to say hop, I
1:09:42feel it settling in and connecting
1:09:44almost as if we’d plugged in a jack
1:09:46here that connects. I think, well,
1:09:49I’m a bit behind here. Yeah, the jack
1:09:51plug, that's a long
1:09:52what you shared speaks to me quite a
1:09:54bit and it's one of the topics I'm
1:09:56currently digging into, and I agree
1:09:58with you that it’s very complicated
1:10:00because it really goes beyond our way
1:10:02of seeing the world. You see, it’s
1:10:04already quite something to talk about
1:10:05past lives, and I think that right
1:10:07there, we're stepping outside of many
1:10:08people's belief systems. Uh, more and
1:10:11more, the people I invite and the
1:10:12people I listen to, etc., talk about
1:10:14parallel lives where, in fact, space
1:10:16might not even exist, and that’s why,
1:10:19by the way, we can perform remote
1:10:20healing treatments. In fact, different
1:10:23time
1:10:24doesn't really exist either, and
1:10:26everything exists in the present, and
1:10:28it's just different presents existing
1:10:31at different frequency levels. There
1:10:33you go, that's what I'm exploring, but
1:10:35it's true that it really goes very far
1:10:36outside of the belief system. Yes, in
1:10:38fact, we cannot explore it through
1:10:39understanding. Right away, if we
1:10:42approach it that way, we will surely be
1:10:44afraid. And if the mind, if you don't
1:10:48experience it, I want to tell you in
1:10:50your life, either because you’ve had
1:10:53a consultation with such a consultant,
1:10:56or because it doesn't happen to you to
1:10:58feel, precisely, that something strange
1:11:01is going on, if you don't experience it
1:11:04, I completely agree, as a good former
1:11:06Cartesian and still a rational woman
1:11:09today, I completely agree. Uh, you can,
1:11:12you can not understand it at all, but I
1:11:15manage now, if you will, out of love
1:11:17for my neighbor. And it will, it will
1:11:19seem extremely naive, uh, cliché what
1:11:21I’m telling you, but you see, when I
1:11:24sit in my therapy chair, the only Julie
1:11:26that exists, the only part of me, is
1:11:28the same one I had when I was a little
1:11:30girl. It’s the one who is joyful all
1:11:32the time. It’s the one who deeply
1:11:34loves others and who feels everything
1:11:39inside them, and outside of them too,
1:11:41in their invisible side, in their
1:11:44history, and who has the desire: "If I
1:11:46can take away even a tiny fraction of
1:11:49their suffering, then my life on earth
1:11:51is justified." It's as if I always
1:11:54needed to be sure that I'm useful for
1:11:56something. You see, I'm a bit like the
1:11:59baby who didn't arrive at the right
1:12:01time or who maybe they didn't want to
1:12:02keep. I know that, and I don't hold any
1:12:05grudge against my mom for it. I've
1:12:06understood the whole thing perfectly
1:12:08well. I arrived, I landed a bit
1:12:10unexpectedly, and so today, I'm left
1:12:13with the desire to always have meaning
1:12:15and an impact, and to tell myself: "
1:12:17Well, when I leave this earth, I hope I
1:12:20will have left something good for
1:12:22others." You see, I want to go back up
1:12:25and be with myself, telling myself I'll
1:12:27be at peace because I will have always
1:12:29loved, I will have tried to love as
1:12:31much as possible, and I will have loved
1:12:34with all my sincerity. And ultimately,
1:12:37when I am channeling and I repair what
1:12:39needs repairing in the invisible, in
1:12:41the physical body, in people's minds,
1:12:44in their psyche, in their
1:12:45transgenerational patterns, in their
1:12:48cellular memory, well, I repair with
1:12:50love. And actually, I don't know how
1:12:53that works, you see. I don't know, it's
1:12:57like when you give a gift with a lot of
1:12:59love, or when you give a gift because
1:13:01you were told you had to buy a gift for
1:13:03so-and-so. We agree that you yourself
1:13:05know it in your emotions. If it's
1:13:08someone you didn't like because they
1:13:09weren't kind to you, well, you know
1:13:11that the heart you give with won't be
1:13:12in the same state of openness. Whereas
1:13:15when you sincerely love something or
1:13:17someone, you do something that comes
1:13:19out in a powerful way, you see? Meaning
1:13:23, effortlessly. Well, when I'm doing a
1:13:24healing session, I'm effortless. I'm
1:13:26sometimes a bit ashamed to say it
1:13:28because
1:13:30it requires me to be present between
1:13:32two worlds for all the hours I'm
1:13:34connected, and I connect for many hours
1:13:36in a row. So it's true that I do this,
1:13:39it's a physical exercise for me because
1:13:42I have to be between several worlds and
1:13:44several space-times. So, someone who
1:13:47would just see me sitting in my office
1:13:49could say, "Yeah, but she's not doing
1:13:51anything." But actually, nobody can
1:13:55imagine the energy consumption, if you
1:13:57will, that it can have to be connected
1:14:00to different worlds, space-times, and
1:14:03frequencies with different beings. And
1:14:06at the same time, I would say that I
1:14:08don't make an effort, however, to
1:14:10connect and receive the info. I just
1:14:12need to say, could you, so, OK, thank
1:14:15you Marie-Thérèse. So you are coming
1:14:18for your cancer. So, uh, could you tell
1:14:20me what is happening for
1:14:21Marie-Thérèse? And then I'll
1:14:23immediately start to have visions,
1:14:25words, phrases, and—hop! And it will
1:14:29follow a sequence, and I will clearly
1:14:31explain to the person throughout the
1:14:33consultation the origin, the "why," and
1:14:36the relationship to the present. I like
1:14:39for it to have a logic. The person
1:14:41leaves my place having understood why,
1:14:43how they can work on themselves, and
1:14:45how they can continue in their daily
1:14:46life. "Work on themselves," that's the
1:14:49same, it's a word I don't like much,
1:14:50but how can they, in their daily life,
1:14:52continue to materialize something
1:14:54better for themselves? You see, they
1:14:56understand how they are replaying an
1:14:58echo here and how, by stepping out of
1:15:00the vision of that echo, they can look
1:15:02at it. I really give keys because I am
1:15:04told how to do it.
1:15:05H
1:15:06There you go, you see.
1:15:08How do you feel the collective is
1:15:10opening up to these subjects? Do you
1:15:13feel that, indeed, over the years, it
1:15:14is becoming more and more accepted? And
1:15:17according to you, what is that due to?
1:15:20Well, uh, yes, I feel that it is more
1:15:22and more accepted, but when I started,
1:15:24uh, I had to, I was going to say, do
1:15:26myself violence. I entered at a time
1:15:28when we weren't expected, you know. As
1:15:30I told you, in 2006, we weren't there
1:15:32yet. Uh, it wasn't necessarily as
1:15:35well-regarded as it is today. We didn't
1:15:38dare say it either. So what I did hear
1:15:41many times, however, is that the
1:15:43collective was going to open up because
1:15:46of the, quote-unquote, Covid period. In
1:15:50fact, people were going to suffer
1:15:51enormously. They were going to be
1:15:53wounded in their interiority, in their
1:15:55instinct, in their convictions. And
1:15:58this wound was going to force them to
1:16:00choose themselves, you see, in terms of
1:16:02who I am, in my identity. So, I worked
1:16:06tremendously while everyone was on
1:16:08break during Covid, and I was told: "
1:16:11You must support this period of great
1:16:14suffering, because people are about to
1:16:17experience something very paradoxical."
1:16:20Because as much as things are shifting
1:16:22towards computing—they used that word
1:16:24to avoid saying artificial intelligence
1:16:26, because I don't think I could have
1:16:28truly grasped it yet. I was told at
1:16:31that time that a more computer-based
1:16:33intelligence would want to take over,
1:16:36and simultaneously, a whole group of
1:16:39people would mostly open up their
1:16:41instincts and inner consciousness. And
1:16:44that's the goal of what we're living
1:16:45through. You'll see people like us who
1:16:50dare to speak up and be seen physically
1:16:53, in who we are, even if I am known
1:16:55today. So, there will be more and more
1:16:59people who dare to show themselves. And
1:17:02actually, because we're told: "Don't be
1:17:04afraid, things are opening up, you must
1:17:05provide support, but you must not lose
1:17:07sight of what you feel inside." In fact
1:17:09, people will dare to be themselves
1:17:11more and more, but it doesn't come for
1:17:13free for them, either! They're going
1:17:15through it because they're losing jobs
1:17:16they didn't like, because their
1:17:18financial situation is falling apart,
1:17:20or because someone becomes seriously
1:17:21ill. You see, everything is becoming—
1:17:24the funnel is tightening, the pressure
1:17:26is mounting so that you have no choice
1:17:29but to be yourself. Which is a bit of
1:17:32why you're here too, speaking in French
1:17:33, and you see, you felt the same
1:17:35calling. Do you see what I mean? I
1:17:37think that's what's funny, and what you
1:17:39shared resonates quite a bit: when
1:17:41you're on the right path, everything
1:17:42flows easily.
1:17:44Exactly. Conversely, when it's not the
1:17:46right path, well, you see, there's
1:17:47friction, it's hard, you're struggling,
1:17:49you can't get up, you're in pain
1:17:50everywhere.
1:17:51For the English podcast, I had recorded
1:17:52, I think, 35 episodes, and it was
1:17:53super interesting. I had great guests,
1:17:55but the videos just didn't work out. It
1:17:58was around 100 to 150 views per video,
1:18:00and yet at the time, I was already very
1:18:02happy with my 100 or 150 views.
1:18:03Yes, for sure.
1:18:05Uh, but it was when the first video I
1:18:06launched here in French, even though I
1:18:08thought the audience would be smaller
1:18:09because the Francophone community is,
1:18:11after all, smaller than the Anglophone
1:18:12one. Well, the episode was a huge hit,
1:18:15I told myself, okay, well maybe it’s
1:18:16an exception, and then the episodes
1:18:18kept performing well,
1:18:19and in fact, while thinking, because
1:18:21actually, you were accepting yourself.
1:18:22It’s you, it’s you who accepted
1:18:24yourself with yourself.
1:18:26You see, when you accept yourself and
1:18:27you are in the right place
1:18:29with yourself, once again, it always
1:18:30starts from within. If you are in the
1:18:32right place with yourself and you do it
1:18:34with sincerity, you tell yourself, well
1:18:36, too bad about the judgments, too bad
1:18:38for everyone I hadn't warned, that I
1:18:39also had this openness or this
1:18:41curiosity, because it can start with a
1:18:42simple curiosity. And well, actually,
1:18:44all of a sudden the doors open, and I
1:18:46mean they open wide, and you have the
1:18:48wind at your back, it blows, and it
1:18:49leaves you no choice. People call you,
1:18:51they want a session, they want a
1:18:53consultation, they want this, or, well,
1:18:55you don't really have a choice anymore.
1:18:57You are, you are obliged to go for it.
1:18:58You see, when you are in the right
1:18:59place, you are forced to go for it. So
1:19:01this will speak to all those who
1:19:02perhaps are hesitant or are still
1:19:04afraid of disappointing Mom or Dad or
1:19:06being judged by a husband. I have many
1:19:08women who consult me because they are
1:19:11actually lonely in their relationship.
1:19:15So, their relationship isn't going well
1:19:17, but they don't leave because,
1:19:18precisely, uh, maybe, uh, well, the
1:19:20children are there, you don't want to
1:19:22lose a home, you don't want to lose
1:19:24sometimes a financial resource that
1:19:26supports you because the person is on
1:19:28maternity leave. But, at the end of the
1:19:32day, uh, she has talent, she might have
1:19:33what we call a gift, but she doesn't
1:19:35put it to use because her husband
1:19:36doesn't believe in it. So it happens a
1:19:40lot that I am able to go and turn on
1:19:42the taps everywhere so that the person
1:19:44can experience it. Afterward, she
1:19:47experiences it to the extent that she
1:19:49decides to, but when there are
1:19:50prohibitions, I am made to cut those
1:19:51prohibitions. And so the prohibitions
1:19:53are often the fear of judgment, and the
1:19:56judgment of a husband, a father, or
1:19:58neighbors, or, or
1:20:00what I find funny is that it is often
1:20:01self-imposed. I had quite a few fears
1:20:03like that when I left my very
1:20:05traditional job at a tech company. It
1:20:07was well-paid. Well, I thought, well,
1:20:09my wife specifically too, I thought
1:20:10that’s kind of what she signed up for
1:20:12. And not only did she not care when I
1:20:14quit, but she was actually happy
1:20:16because it meant I had more time to
1:20:17spend with her and I was more attentive
1:20:19.
1:20:20There you go. Well, it’s
1:20:21so, in fact, there are many stories we
1:20:23tell ourselves that are sometimes just
1:20:25stories we tell ourselves. They were
1:20:28stories we tell ourselves, but it’s
1:20:30the same for our clients too
1:20:32because somewhere they too, uh, every
1:20:35time they consult me, I, I, I dislodge
1:20:39a fear, I dislodge, uh, sometimes even
1:20:43past-life memories. So we can’t
1:20:45necessarily say that the person is
1:20:47making it up either. It correlates with
1:20:49a memory as well. If you’ve been hurt
1:20:52, rejected, or judged in the past,
1:20:53it’s certain that it will be much
1:20:55harder for you if you want, uh, to face
1:20:57this fear of rejection. You might
1:21:00really go into it dragging your feet,
1:21:02you see. Whereas in reality, uh, it is
1:21:06often linked to a fear, a fear that has
1:21:08re-anchored itself in your physical
1:21:09life. Uh, either you had a very
1:21:12conventional family and you are very,
1:21:14very afraid of disappointing them, but
1:21:16it woke up something that had often
1:21:17been within you for a long time. Do you
1:21:20see what I mean? So
1:21:22it positions itself on many levels and
1:21:24in many space-times, as I tell you. But
1:21:26it is often, in any case, something, uh
1:21:29, that starts from a fear we have, a
1:21:31fear that materialized in your present
1:21:34life first. Now, I always start from
1:21:36your present life, and it takes me to
1:21:38the root where this fear resonated. But
1:21:42this present life, as you consulting me
1:21:45, is what somehow brings about the
1:21:47consultation and the answer to the
1:21:49consultation, you see. Julie, thank you
1:21:53so much for everything you shared today
1:21:55. We covered an enormous number of
1:21:56topics, it was super interesting, and
1:21:58we were able to go into detail.
1:22:00I have three little questions I ask all
1:22:01my guests at the end of an episode. The
1:22:04first one is, what does living a
1:22:06fulfilled life mean to you?
1:22:10Well, precisely, a fulfilled life for
1:22:12me is when you are truly who you are.
1:22:16There you go. When you are who you are,
1:22:17when you don't reject who you are, when
1:22:19you accept being who you are. Well, I
1:22:22find that everything is simpler,
1:22:24everything is easier, the physical body
1:22:26feels better and we find pleasure. We
1:22:29are happy to wake up in the morning to
1:22:31do what we have to do. There you go, in
1:22:33fact, we are true to ourselves, so we
1:22:34are true to others. It avoids a lot of
1:22:36turmoil
1:22:36and being angry. It avoids being angry.
1:22:39It brings you joy and then all the
1:22:41doors open. That doesn't mean we don't
1:22:43have trials to go through, but there is
1:22:45still something that is simpler when we
1:22:46don't tell ourselves stories.
1:22:48Hm.
1:22:48There we go. Great. And if you had one
1:22:51piece of advice for the 20-year-old
1:22:52Julie, what would it be?
1:22:56Uh, well, that she shouldn't be afraid
1:22:58of who she is really going to become,
1:23:01and to be certain that she will do good
1:23:03by doing that. Because that was really
1:23:06the fear I had, the fear of not serving
1:23:08others, and of not being useful, and of
1:23:12not doing the right thing. So I would
1:23:14tell her now, don't worry, no matter
1:23:15what happens, you will be in the right
1:23:17place. Yes, to not judge myself because
1:23:19, in fact, I was judging myself. I was
1:23:20hard on myself, harder than on anyone
1:23:22else.
1:23:23That's often the case. Exactly,
1:23:25we always set the bar very high for
1:23:27ourselves and less so for others.
1:23:29Exactly.
1:23:30Uh, perfect. And finally, where can
1:23:33people learn more about you, your work,
1:23:34and get in touch with you?
1:23:36Yes. Well, I'll give a little, so you
1:23:39have to be patient because I have many
1:23:41requests and my schedule is very far
1:23:43ahead. So as I was telling you, I am
1:23:46answering your questions, not to get
1:23:49more work, I already have plenty, but
1:23:51really to share my story. But if
1:23:55someone relates and is in need, they
1:23:58can send me a text or a WhatsApp at 06
1:24:0110 55 68. There you go, I'm not afraid
1:24:06to give my number because it's always
1:24:08...wait, you might get a wave of people
1:24:09. They will be patient, I ask them, if
1:24:12these people listened to this podcast,
1:24:14it's because somewhere they will be
1:24:15aware that I will manage as best I can,
1:24:17I will do everything I can. And so,
1:24:19send me a text or a WhatsApp. Uh, you
1:24:23can find a few short videos of me, but
1:24:24I haven't really taken the time yet to
1:24:26speak to the collective. I've done a
1:24:29few conferences and interviews, I
1:24:31haven't really made the time, but you
1:24:33can listen to, well, I have a YouTube
1:24:36channel I started but I can't seem to
1:24:38find the time to nurture, called
1:24:40Quantum Keys. And then I answered
1:24:43various interviews, you know, with a
1:24:45gentleman who has a channel called John
1:24:47Cochet. So we talked about dyslexia, we
1:24:49talked about cellular memory on that
1:24:51gentleman's channel. So you can also
1:24:53possibly find some traces there.
1:24:55Great. Listen, I'll put all the links
1:24:57in the description as I do every time.
1:24:58There we go.
1:24:59Julie, thank you so much for being with
1:25:00me today and for sharing everything
1:25:01you've shared, it was super interesting
1:25:03.
1:25:03Thank you.
1:25:05I'm Réy, you're watching Point 0, and
1:25:06I'll see you in the next episode. Bye!
1:25:09Thanks for being part of the adventure,
1:25:11and if you feel like something is
1:25:13shifting inside you right now, I
1:25:14created the Point 0 assessment. It's
1:25:16free, it takes 3 minutes, and you'll
1:25:18receive a personalized reading on where
1:25:19you are, what's holding you back, and
1:25:21your next step.

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