日本の富裕層ランキングが世界3位?たった1年で富裕層が急増した理由を解説します! — Transcript
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- 0:00Since income growth is lower than the
- 0:02rise in prices, everyone is struggling
- 0:04to make ends meet. Life is tough for
- 0:07most, but the number of wealthy people
- 0:09is actually increasing rapidly.
- 0:11>> Yes.
- 0:15>> Hello. This is Kan, the tax expert.
- 0:17>> Mr. Kan.
- 0:18>> Yes.
- 0:19>> You often hear that life is getting
- 0:20harder for many Japanese people, right?
- 0:22>> I do.
- 0:23>> But on the other hand,
- 0:24>> I've also heard that the wealthy class
- 0:26is growing.
- 0:26>> Is this actually true?
- 0:28>> Yeah. Well, it is increasing. The
- 0:31wealthy have suddenly appeared. Just
- 0:33like that.
- 0:36>> People who have "just like that" become
- 0:37wealthy are increasing.
- 0:39>> Is that what it is?
- 0:40>> That's exactly it.
- 0:41>> Everyone went independent.
- 0:42>> The number of people going independent
- 0:44has also increased, hasn't it?
- 0:45>> Yeah. The wealthy class is growing.
- 0:47>> Huh.
- 0:47>> Yeah. So, you can see that a bit of a
- 0:50divide is starting to emerge, right?
- 0:53>> Oh.
- 0:53>> Yeah. Japan hasn't really been a
- 0:56society with a huge gap, but it's a bit
- 0:58worrying that some disparity is
- 1:00appearing. Yeah. Oh.
- 1:01>> Yeah.
- 1:02>> So then, why is the wealthy class
- 1:03suddenly increasing like that?
- 1:05>> Please explain that to us today.
- 1:07>> Yeah. Yes. Understood. Wait, an
- 1:09explanation?
- 1:10>> Yes.
- 1:10>> Why the wealthy suddenly popped up.
- 1:12>> Yes.
- 1:13>> YouTube success.
- 1:18>> Thank you.
- 1:20>> That’s right.
- 1:21>> That's it. That’s all.
- 1:22>> That’s all? No, but isn't it
- 1:24increasing across the board in society?
- 1:26>> Oh, in society, not everyone is hitting
- 1:27it big on YouTube, you know.
- 1:29>> That's right. That's right.
- 1:30>> I’m the only one hitting it big on
- 1:32YouTube.
- 1:32>> Yes.
- 1:33>> Yes. Understood.
- 1:35>> Well then, today I want to explain the
- 1:37situation of the wealthy, including the
- 1:39overall state of the Japanese public
- 1:42>> and why the number of wealthy people is
- 1:44surging, as well as where Japan stands
- 1:46globally.
- 1:47>> Yeah. Yes. Please.
- 1:49>> Yes.
- 1:51>> Yes. First, what do you think the
- 1:53criteria for being "wealthy" is?
- 1:55>> The criteria for the wealthy.
- 1:56>> Yeah.
- 1:57>> Assets of 100 million yen.
- 1:58>> Oh, excellent.
- 2:01>> There is a pyramid often cited by the
- 2:03Nomura Research Institute, and at the
- 2:05bottom, there is the mass market.
- 2:07>> That exists, right?
- 2:08>> Yes.
- 2:09>> And above that is the mass affluent.
- 2:11>> Oh.
- 2:11>> And in the middle, the semi-wealthy.
- 2:13>> Yes.
- 2:14>> And above that, the wealthy.
- 2:15>> Yes.
- 2:16>> So, at the very top, the ultra-wealthy.
- 2:17Wow.
- 2:18>> Yeah. That's it. And like Miro-kun said
- 2:20, the top two, the ultra-wealthy and
- 2:22the wealthy. The wealthy and above have
- 2:23financial assets of over 100 million
- 2:25yen.
- 2:25>> Yes.
- 2:26>> Financial assets.
- 2:27>> Financial assets minus debt, right?
- 2:29>> Yeah. Yeah.
- 2:30>> What are financial assets?
- 2:31>> Financial assets?
- 2:32>> Yeah.
- 2:32>> Stocks and securities, all of that.
- 2:34>> Right. Stocks.
- 2:35>> Yeah.
- 2:36>> Real estate...no, not real estate. Gold
- 2:38.
- 2:38>> That's not a financial asset. It's not
- 2:40financial. That
- 2:41>> Gold assets.
- 2:42>> Gold assets.
- 2:43>> Financial assets. Cash.
- 2:45>> Cash, yeah. Cash, stocks, investment
- 2:47trusts, and so on.
- 2:48>> Ah, investment trusts.
- 2:50>> Yeah. Well, things like that are mainly
- 2:51...
- 2:52>> Yes.
- 2:52>> Things that can be turned into cash
- 2:54immediately.
- 2:54>> So, things kept in an account,
- 2:55essentially. Ah.
- 2:56>> Ah, that's what you mean.
- 2:58>> Yeah. Bank accounts, brokerage accounts
- 3:00, or cash under the mattress.
- 3:01>> Oh.
- 3:01>> Yeah. So real estate or gold—well,
- 3:04gold probably doesn't count, though.
- 3:06Gold, watches, cars, and such.
- 3:08>> Ah.
- 3:09>> Those aren't included. Yeah.
- 3:10>> Yeah. Well, people who own those are
- 3:12also wealthy, though.
- 3:13>> That's true. The "wealthy" group of 100
- 3:15million or more defined by Nomura
- 3:17Research Institute is based solely on
- 3:19financial assets.
- 3:20>> That's the kind of person. The
- 3:21ultra-wealthy are...
- 3:25>> And, well, this is based on the number
- 3:27of households; Nomura Research
- 3:29Institute calculates the ratio based on
- 3:32this.
- 3:39>> Oh, yes.
- 3:40>> Assuming there are 55.7 million
- 3:41households in Japan.
- 3:43>> Yes.
- 3:43>> 55.7 million households.
- 3:45>> Yeah. The bottom "mass" group, with
- 3:47financial assets under 30 million yen.
- 3:49>> Out of 55 million, about 44 million.
- 3:52>> Oh, 8...
- 3:53>> Percent—about 80%are the mass group,
- 3:56under 30 million.
- 3:58>> And 30 to 50 million is 5.76 million
- 4:01households, which is 5%...
- 4:05>> That's the upper-mass group.
- 4:07>> 30 to 50 million, right. So this mass
- 4:09group is 80%, upper-mass is 10%, that's
- 4:1290%right there.
- 4:13>> That's right.
- 4:14>> Okay, next is the quasi-wealthy, 50
- 4:16million to 100 million. That's 4.03
- 4:18million households. A little over 7%.
- 4:21>> Huh. Right.
- 4:22>> Yeah. So that gets you to about 97%.
- 4:25>> Yes.
- 4:26>> Up to the quasi-wealthy.
- 4:27>> Yes. One......
- 4:28>> hundred million or less.
- 4:29>> Top 3%.
- 4:30>> And 100 million or more is the top 3%.
- 4:32>> Yes.
- 4:33>> That's it.
- 4:34>> There's no way to reach that level.
- 4:36>> Can't reach it.
- 4:37>> Can't reach it. Can't reach it.
- 4:38>> By the way, Miro-kun, where do you fall
- 4:40?
- 4:40>> I'm definitely in the mass group.
- 4:42>> Good for you for saying that. I'm in
- 4:43the mass group.
- 4:44>> Good. You said it.
- 4:45>> I am...
- 4:46>> That’s strange.
- 4:47>> It looks like it.
- 4:48>> That’s strange. In a few months,
- 4:51it'll probably be about this much. Am I
- 4:53...
- 4:53>> Mass-affluent?
- 4:54>> Mass-affluent.
- 4:55>> Is that so? Are you losing that much at
- 4:57the slots?
- 4:57>> Yes. At the slots. If I hadn't been
- 5:00playing slots,
- 5:00>> I think I would've been in the upper
- 5:02mass-affluent bracket.
- 5:05>> Oh, really? From 100 million to 500
- 5:08million is the wealthy class. And,
- 5:10>> this is 2.7%to 8%. But there are that
- 5:13many, right?
- 5:14>> Yes. And those with 500 million or more
- 5:17are 0.2%.
- 5:18>> Indeed.
- 5:19>> About two households out of every 1,000
- 5:21. About that, yeah. So, you see. Yes.
- 5:24That’s how it is, and
- 5:26>> this top 3%—the wealthy class with
- 5:27100 million or more—is increasing.
- 5:29>> Yes.
- 5:30>> Yes. Apparently, there are 400,000 more
- 5:32Japanese people in that bracket this
- 5:33past year.
- 5:33>> That’s amazing.
- 5:34>> The wealthy.
- 5:35>> That many?
- 5:35>> 400,000 people.
- 5:36>> Can they really just increase that
- 5:38suddenly?
- 5:38>> Yeah. But right now, income growth is
- 5:41lower than price inflation, so everyone
- 5:43is struggling to live.
- 5:45>> That’s what they say, right?
- 5:47>> It is. Life is tough, but a portion of
- 5:50the wealthy is increasing rapidly.
- 5:53>> Yes. Why...
- 5:55>> Why do you think they're increasing?
- 5:57>> Well, as they often say about investing
- 5:59,
- 5:59>> stocks—like Big Tech stocks—are
- 6:01going up, right?
- 6:02>> Oh, people who are investing,
- 6:03>> the stocks they hold just keep going up
- 6:05, and...
- 6:05>> Yes.
- 6:06>> It’s not just US stocks, either.
- 6:07Japanese stocks are going up too.
- 6:09Japanese stocks are rising steadily as
- 6:10well.
- 6:10>> What did you call it again?
- 6:11>> Yeah.
- 6:12>> S&P, yeah. That’s US stocks. And
- 6:14there’s "All-Country.""All-Country,"
- 6:16or "Orkan." It's an investment trust
- 6:18that gathers the world's leading stocks
- 6:20, and Japanese stocks, too...
- 6:22>> are rising, especially among listed
- 6:23companies.
- 6:24>> Oh.
- 6:25>> So, people who invest are becoming
- 6:27wealthy.
- 6:28>> That’s right.
- 6:29>> The stocks held by investors are
- 6:31naturally increasing in value.
- 6:33>> Yes.
- 6:33>> So, it’s a bit different from
- 6:35actually earning it. Working a job and
- 6:37earning it. Rather than that, 400,000
- 6:39people became wealthy with over 100
- 6:41million because they bought stocks and
- 6:43the value just kept rising on its own.
- 6:46>> That’s...
- 6:46>> Amazing. Isn't it amazing? There’s
- 6:48also the weak yen.
- 6:49>> Yeah.
- 6:50>> The weak yen. For example, if you have
- 6:52$ 10,000, and $ 1 is 100 yen, how much
- 6:54is that?
- 6:55>> $ 10,000?
- 6:56>> Yeah.
- 6:56>> $ 10,000 at 100 yen per dollar. 1
- 6:58million.
- 6:59>> Yeah. A million, huh. There was a time
- 7:01for that, too.
- 7:02>> Oh.
- 7:02>> But what’s the dollar rate now?
- 7:03>> What is it at right now? One dollar.
- 7:05Well, it's hovering between 150 and 160
- 7:07yen.
- 7:08>> Ah, that’s right. 150, right.
- 7:10>> So, even with the same 10,000 dollars,
- 7:12if the yen keeps weakening, it can turn
- 7:14into 1.6 million yen.
- 7:15>> That’s true.
- 7:16>> Yeah. So the more the yen weakens, the
- 7:19more...
- 7:20>> In terms of the yen amount, I mean.
- 7:22>> That’s true.
- 7:23>> Yeah. Your assets increase, right?
- 7:25>> Wow. That’s amazing.
- 7:27>> So people who hold a lot of dollars
- 7:28just naturally see their yen value grow
- 7:29. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
- 7:30>> Right. The more the yen weakens. Yeah.
- 7:32For sure.
- 7:33>> Yeah. That’s one factor.
- 7:34>> Yeah. Also, especially in cities, when
- 7:37people sell the real estate they own,
- 7:39property values have risen, so their
- 7:40sales proceeds jump up.
- 7:42>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
- 7:43>> That happens too.
- 7:44>> Oh, I see, that's a thing too.
- 7:45>> Yeah. Plus, once your own business
- 7:47grows to a certain point, the valuation
- 7:48of your company stock just keeps going
- 7:50up.
- 7:50>> Yes.
- 7:50>> Yeah. Miro-kun, you're going to start
- 7:52your own company soon, too.
- 7:53>> I will.
- 7:54>> Right. You’ll start it with about a
- 7:55million yen, right?
- 7:56>> Yes. I’ll use a million. That’s a
- 7:58million, but for example, if you make
- 8:0050 million in profit in a year...
- 8:02>> Your company stock valuation becomes 51
- 8:04million.
- 8:04>> Do that, and suddenly you're part of
- 8:06the wealthy class.
- 8:06>> That’s crazy.
- 8:07>> Yeah.
- 8:07>> FIRE.
- 8:08>> FIRE? No, FIRE is still too early.
- 8:10>> Wait until it happens.
- 8:11>> Yeah. Right. There are probably people
- 8:13who are succeeding in their own
- 8:14businesses.
- 8:15>> That’s true.
- 8:16>> Yeah. Because of that, well...
- 8:19>> People who are doing various asset
- 8:21management and those who grew their own
- 8:23businesses have suddenly increased. So
- 8:26now, uh...
- 8:28>> In terms of the number of wealthy
- 8:30people, the world considers anyone with
- 8:32over 1 million dollars as wealthy.
- 8:34>> So, having about 150 to 160 million yen
- 8:37.
- 8:37>> Yes.
- 8:38>> That seems to be the global standard
- 8:40for being wealthy. 1 million dollars,
- 8:41right.
- 8:42>> Yes. And Japan is currently 3rd in the
- 8:44world.
- 8:45>> Amazing.
- 8:45>> Yeah. It’s actually pretty
- 8:47significant.
- 8:47>> Like, America, China, Japan...maybe
- 8:49Germany is in there too? Yeah.
- 8:51>> Right.
- 8:51>> Well, if everyone had invested even a
- 8:53little...
- 8:54>> Yeah.
- 8:54>> Things might have been different.
- 8:55>> Right. So, whether or not you can
- 8:57invest is really, after all...
- 8:59>> Yeah. ...
- 8:59>> the dividing line.
- 9:00>> It really makes a huge difference,
- 9:01doesn't it?
- 9:02>> Right. But you're supposed to invest
- 9:04with spare funds, right?
- 9:05>> Yes.
- 9:05>> If you don't have any spare, you can't
- 9:06do it.
- 9:07>> True.
- 9:07>> If you're living paycheck to paycheck.
- 9:08>> That's true.
- 9:09>> Exactly.
- 9:10>> I see. Right. I see. Exactly. Yeah.
- 9:12>> If that happens, it can't be helped.
- 9:14>> That's the thing. That's why it's a
- 9:15difficult spot to be in. Whether you're
- 9:17in a position where you can scrape
- 9:18together even a little money to invest,
- 9:19>> or in a situation where you can't
- 9:21generate any at all. I see.
- 9:22>> Yeah.
- 9:23>> Even a little bit.
- 9:23>> Yeah.
- 9:24>> It's tough.
- 9:25>> I see. That's true. Definitely.
- 9:27>> Yeah. But now, with things like the new
- 9:31NISA making it easier and easier to
- 9:33invest, more people are doing it. Even
- 9:35in their 20 s—though some call it "
- 9:37NISA poverty"—there are people
- 9:39cutting back on their own lives to
- 9:41invest in NISA. They might become the
- 9:43wealthy class in the future.
- 9:44>> Yes. True, those people might become
- 9:46wealthy.
- 9:47>> They might. Yeah. But you know, in your
- 9:4920s, you should go all-in.
- 9:51>> All-in.
- 9:51>> On your own business. Indeed.
- 9:53>> I was saying "all-in," but then
- 9:55Miro-kun started calling it "going
- 9:57full-bore" halfway through, and like...
- 10:00>> There was a comment about it.
- 10:02>> Right. I kept saying "all-in," but he
- 10:05said "going full-bore." Next time,
- 10:09it'll become a habit of mine. "
- 10:11>> Going full-bore on your own business,"
- 10:13I think I'll say "all-in on your own
- 10:15business."
- 10:16>> All-in, right. "All-in" sounds a bit
- 10:19vulgar, so "full-bore" doesn't have a
- 10:22different meaning, but the nuance...
- 10:27>> True, "all-in" it is.
- 10:29>> Yeah.
- 10:30>> What even is "going full-bore"?
- 10:33>> Well, pushing all in, "full-bore,""
- 10:35full-bore," yeah, people say that a lot
- 10:38.
- 10:39>> Yeah. "
- 10:40>> Full-bore," the term is "tsupparu,"
- 10:42yeah, it's "tsupparu."
- 10:44>> What does "tsupparu" mean? It's a term,
- 10:46right? Oh.
- 10:47>> Like in Mahjong, "tsupparu."
- 10:48>> To "tsupparu," yeah. Ah, the Mahjong "
- 10:50tsupparu." What did "tsupparu" mean
- 10:52again?
- 10:52>> That's right. In Mahjong, even if the
- 10:54opponent declares Riichi and you're in
- 10:56a disadvantageous or dangerous
- 10:57situation, you don't go on the
- 10:58defensive and you keep discarding
- 11:00dangerous tiles, aiming for your own
- 11:02win.
- 11:02>> Oh, I see.
- 11:03>> If it's defensive, it's slightly
- 11:05different from "all-in."
- 11:07>> It is slightly different.
- 11:08>> Yeah, it's slightly different. Yeah.
- 11:11>> It just means using it all up.
- 11:12>> Oh, you mean betting.
- 11:13>> That's right. Betting.
- 11:15>> Prepared to use it all up.
- 11:17>> Using all your money.
- 11:18>> Putting it in and going for it.
- 11:19>> No matter how disadvantaged you are,
- 11:21you still go for it.
- 11:22>> Exactly. All-in.
- 11:24>> All-in. My business is all-in.
- 11:26>> I see, I see. Like double or nothing.
- 11:28Oh, I see. So, you're all-in, Mr. Nishi
- 11:31. A full bet.
- 11:32>> Yes. A full bet, indeed.
- 11:33>> Yeah.
- 11:34>> Certainly.
- 11:34>> Yeah.
- 11:35>> It's quite different, isn't it?
- 11:36>> Quite different. Yeah.
- 11:37>> Yes. So, in your 20s, I want you to go
- 11:39full bet on self-investment.
- 11:40>> Yeah.
- 11:41>> Not on asset management.
- 11:42>> Exactly. I think that's more likely to
- 11:44pay off in the winter, though.
- 11:45>> Yeah. Yeah.
- 11:46>> Yeah.
- 11:47>> When I say self-investment,
- 11:48>> well, starting your own business or a
- 11:50side hustle, or sharpening your skills.
- 11:52>> Oh, definitely.
- 11:54>> I want you to go full bet on things
- 11:55that raise your ability and improve
- 11:57your business.
- 11:58>> That's true.
- 11:59>> Yeah.
- 12:00>> Going all-in on that is risky, though.
- 12:03If you go all-in, you'll probably lose
- 12:05it.
- 12:06>> Indeed, there are a lot of amazing CEOs
- 12:09in their 20s these days.
- 12:10>> A lot. I met one yesterday, too.
- 12:12>> Yes.
- 12:13>> Only in their 20s, in their 4th year,
- 12:16in IT.
- 12:16>> Already 2.7 billion in sales.
- 12:19>> That's amazing.
- 12:20>> Yeah, really.
- 12:21>> Wow.
- 12:22>> Incredible. But that means it's a
- 12:24reachable goal, right? Reachable.
- 12:26>> Yeah. It's reachable. Even my wife, who
- 12:28just turned 30, is doing amazing things
- 12:30. Nishi-kun knows her well, too.
- 12:32>> Yeah. Oh, that's right. Oh, she's 37
- 12:34now, isn't she?
- 12:35>> 37 this year, yeah.
- 12:36>> Yeah.
- 12:36>> Yeah.
- 12:37>> Wow.
- 12:37>> She was amazing even in her 20s.
- 12:39>> That's right.
- 12:40>> Yeah. Wow. They have certainly expanded
- 12:42rapidly over the last few years.
- 12:43>> They have, haven't they?
- 12:44>> Yeah. Right. Over 200 locations now.
- 12:47>> That's right.
- 12:47>> Yeah.
- 12:48>> Back when I was still doing
- 12:49>> YouTube, they hadn't conquered all 47
- 12:52prefectures yet.
- 12:53>> Ah.
- 12:53>> And they said they wanted to conquer
- 12:54them all.
- 12:55>> They did it all at once, didn't they?
- 12:56>> They did it all at once.
- 12:58>> Amazing.
- 12:58>> It's a full bet.
- 12:59>> A full bet, indeed.
- 13:01>> It's a full bet. Going all-in.
- 13:03>> Indeed, while having monthly meetings
- 13:05with Mr. Sugawara,
- 13:06>> they carefully make a full bet. Exactly
- 13:09. Yeah.
- 13:09>> Right. Yeah. So, I do feel like
- 13:12polarization is starting to happen.
- 13:15More than polarization, well. It's that
- 13:1790%are mass market or upper-mass market
- 13:20.
- 13:20>> Yeah. Yeah.
- 13:21>> Yeah.
- 13:21>> Y-yeah, I suppose so.
- 13:23>> Yeah. I mean, even though interest in
- 13:24investing has grown a bit in Japan
- 13:26since NISA started, it's still a nation
- 13:27of savers.
- 13:28>> Yeah. That's certainly true.
- 13:29>> Yeah. Savings don't grow, you know.
- 13:31>> Yeah.
- 13:32>> Yeah. The interest is like 0.something
- 13:34percent.
- 13:34>> That's true.
- 13:35>> The weaker the yen gets, the lower its
- 13:37value drops. So even if you keep 1
- 13:39million yen in savings, its value just
- 13:41keeps falling.
- 13:41>> Right.
- 13:42>> Yeah. Just holding onto it. It keeps
- 13:44going down.
- 13:44>> If you had exchanged that million for
- 13:46dollars...
- 13:46>> Yeah. ...if you'd converted it to
- 13:47dollars, it would have increased.
- 13:48>> Yeah.
- 13:49>> And, well, people still don't really
- 13:50have the habit of holding foreign
- 13:52currency.
- 13:52>> Indeed.
- 13:53>> Yeah.
- 13:53>> I get so many. Like, messages. From
- 13:56online banks.
- 13:56>> Oh, really? "
- 13:57>> Won't you hold some?""
- 13:58>> Won't you buy some dollars?"
- 13:59>> That's only for people who have it,
- 14:01right? Only for people who have money.
- 14:03>> I'm working hard while dreaming of that
- 14:05. But really, it's true—financial
- 14:09institutions, banks and the like, just
- 14:12look at people's account balances and
- 14:14try to sell them things.
- 14:16>> It feels a bit like......
- 14:19>> misusing personal information. Yeah. "
- 14:21>> How do you even know that?" is what I
- 14:23end up thinking.
- 14:25>> I get random personal calls saying
- 14:26things like, "Mr. Sugawara, we have
- 14:28something we'd like to show you." And
- 14:32I'm like, "You only called because you
- 14:34saw my bank balance, didn't you?" It
- 14:37really is a common occurrence, isn't it
- 14:39?
- 14:39>> It happens all the time.
- 14:40>> Ah, I see.
- 14:41>> Yeah. Something like that.
- 14:43>> Yes.
- 14:44>> But having those savings means you
- 14:46still have money that could be invested
- 14:48.
- 14:49>> That's true.
- 14:50>> If you invest—since Japan's
- 14:51investment ratio is still low...
- 14:53>> Yes. ...
- 14:54>> if people invest, more and more might
- 14:56become wealthy.
- 14:57>> That's right.
- 14:58>> It might increase all at once.
- 15:00>> It might increase.
- 15:01>> Yeah. Ah.
- 15:03>> But you know, the wealthy have their
- 15:05own problems.
- 15:06>> Taxes.
- 15:07>> Exactly, the number one consultation
- 15:09topic for the wealthy is tax saving. Ah
- 15:11.
- 15:11>> That makes sense.
- 15:12>> And among tax saving, what kind of tax
- 15:14saving? Inheritance.
- 15:16>> Oh.
- 15:16>> Yeah. These tax saving consultations
- 15:18are the most common.
- 15:19>> Huh. Ah, so that's how it is.
- 15:21>> Yeah. What is the top inheritance tax
- 15:23rate, I wonder?
- 15:24>> Inheritance tax.
- 15:25>> Yeah.
- 15:25>> 45. It's 55. 55.
- 15:27>> It's 55. Right. More than half.
- 15:30>> Oh, that's right, that's right. They
- 15:32have a lot of assets, and that's why
- 15:34they say wealth disappears after three
- 15:36generations.
- 15:37>> Like, more than half is taken, and then
- 15:38when it's passed on, the next person
- 15:40loses more than half again, so the
- 15:42wealth just keeps vanishing, but
- 15:44preparing for that is tough. Yeah,
- 15:45that's true. Some people just can't
- 15:47manage it.
- 15:49>> Inheritance tax must be paid in cash.
- 15:52>> Yes.
- 15:52>> You have to pay the full amount in cash
- 15:54within 10 months of passing. That’s
- 15:56really hard.
- 15:56>> I mean, if you hold your wealth in cash
- 15:58, you can pay in a lump sum, but most
- 16:00people don't have it on hand; they have
- 16:02mostly real estate. You have to pay the
- 16:04inheritance tax in a single cash
- 16:06payment within 10 months of passing,
- 16:07and that’s fine if you have the
- 16:09wealth in cash, but...
- 16:10>> Yes.
- 16:10>> There are so many people who hold it in
- 16:12real estate.
- 16:13>> I see.
- 16:13>> Yeah.
- 16:14>> That's tough.
- 16:15>> It's tough.
- 16:15>> And you can't easily turn real estate
- 16:17into cash right away.
- 16:18>> Plus, many people hold real estate as
- 16:20apartments or rentals, so...
- 16:22>> Well, if you have tenants...
- 16:24>> It's difficult, isn't it? Selling it is
- 16:25also hard, and there are those kinds of
- 16:27issues. Yes. I see.
- 16:29>> That’s really tough. It is tough.
- 16:30Inheritance planning is hard. Yeah.
- 16:32>> Yeah. I really do get a ton of
- 16:34consultations from wealthy people about
- 16:35inheritance planning.
- 16:36>> Oh, so that really is the case?
- 16:38>> Yeah.
- 16:39>> I do.
- 16:42>> Mr. Sugawara, I think you're in the
- 16:44wealthy or ultra-wealthy category, so
- 16:46what kind of measures are you taking?
- 16:48>> Mr. Sugawara, you reached the
- 16:50ultra-wealthy level.
- 16:51>> Well, I handle quite a bit. You have
- 16:53over 500 million, right?
- 16:54>> That's right.
- 16:55>> So, Mr. Sugawara, you're ultra-wealthy.
- 16:57>> I'm just at the lower end. Oh, among
- 16:59the ultra-wealthy?
- 17:00>> No, no, no. You mean around 500 million
- 17:04? Someone with over 500 million.
- 17:06>> That's right. Really?
- 17:07>> You're crawling all over the ground.
- 17:10>> You'll get yelled at. By the people who
- 17:12are actually crawling on the ground.
- 17:14>> No, I*am*taking inheritance measures.
- 17:16>> Yes.
- 17:17>> Yeah. To handle my inheritance planning
- 17:19, I own absolutely no real estate.
- 17:21>> Oh, right. You did say that.
- 17:23>> Yeah. I only hold assets in cash.
- 17:25>> Yes. So I can turn it into cash
- 17:26immediately.
- 17:26>> Exactly.
- 17:27>> Yeah. I mostly hold assets that can be
- 17:29cashed out immediately, like bank
- 17:30deposits or brokerage accounts.
- 17:32>> Yes.
- 17:32>> Yeah.
- 17:33>> Oh, I see.
- 17:34>> People often say that real estate is
- 17:36good for inheritance tax planning
- 17:37because it lowers the valuation.
- 17:39>> Yeah. It works as an inheritance
- 17:41strategy, but I have a policy of not
- 17:43leaving any inheritance to my children.
- 17:45I'll leave my wife enough for living
- 17:46expenses, but the rest will go to
- 17:48medical institutions because I've been
- 17:50helped by medical care. So, to
- 17:51contribute to medicine, I’ll donate
- 17:53to medical institutions. So, it will
- 17:55mostly be donations.
- 17:56>> And donations aren't subject to
- 17:58inheritance tax.
- 17:58>> Yeah. Yeah.
- 17:59>> Yeah. I'll leave enough for my wife to
- 18:01live comfortably for the rest of her
- 18:03life, but
- 18:03>> I’m leaving nothing to the kids.
- 18:05>> Actually, this is happening the day
- 18:06after tomorrow.
- 18:07>> Oh, finally.
- 18:08>> Finally, the will.
- 18:09>> A notarized will, the day after
- 18:11tomorrow.
- 18:11>> Amazing.
- 18:12>> Yeah, the draft is pretty much done.
- 18:14>> Yeah.
- 18:14>> That’s already—
- 18:15>> Yeah, and my wife and kids already know
- 18:17about it, and I’ve even made it
- 18:18public like this.
- 18:19>> Right, you have mentioned it.
- 18:20>> Yeah.
- 18:21>> That’s right.
- 18:22>> Oh.
- 18:22>> Yeah.
- 18:22>> So it's finally happening.
- 18:24>> Finally, yes. Amazing.
- 18:26>> You know, Mr. Suga. People often
- 18:28suggest that, and I’m fully aware
- 18:29that real estate is good for
- 18:31inheritance tax planning. Yeah. I often
- 18:33get proposals like that. "You can just
- 18:36turn it into cash right before you pass
- 18:37away.""Why not trade real estate and
- 18:40keep growing your assets?"
- 18:41>> They say things like that, but
- 18:43>> You never know when you're going to die
- 18:44. Yes.
- 18:45>> That's true.
- 18:46>> Yeah. I might pass away the moment I
- 18:48buy a property.
- 18:48>> That’s certainly possible. So, I keep
- 18:50my assets in liquid financial products
- 18:52so that if I die at any time, it's fine
- 18:54. My inheritance strategy isn't about
- 18:57dodging taxes, but about ensuring I can
- 18:59pay them properly when the time comes.
- 19:01>> Yeah. Oh. That really is different.
- 19:03>> Yeah. I’ve done a lot of inheritance
- 19:06work, and when kids rely on their
- 19:07parents 'money, it’s all over.
- 19:10>> That’s true.
- 19:11>> They usually grow up in a strange way,
- 19:13and once siblings start their own
- 19:15families, they end up fighting. I
- 19:17don’t want them to become that kind
- 19:19of siblings; I want them to stay on
- 19:20good terms just like they are now.
- 19:22>> That’s true.
- 19:22>> I don’t want them fighting over money
- 19:24. Yeah. That’s why my educational
- 19:26policy for my children is...
- 19:28>> Don't give them fish, teach them how to
- 19:30fish, but don't give them bait.
- 19:32>> Say that one more time.
- 19:34>> Give them fish, but don't give them
- 19:36bait. Teach them how to fish, but don't
- 19:38give them bait. Teach them how to fish,
- 19:40but don't give them the fish. Wait,
- 19:42what?
- 19:43>> Yeah, exactly, exactly. Even if you
- 19:45teach them how to fish, the fish...
- 19:46>> Don't give them fish, just teach them
- 19:48how to fish, right?
- 19:48>> Yeah. Look, I never once mentioned bait
- 19:51. That's about not feeding a fish after
- 19:54you've caught it. You know the saying,
- 19:57"don't feed the fish after you've
- 19:59caught it." Like when you start dating
- 20:02someone, and once you're dating, you're
- 20:04satisfied and then...
- 20:06>> You just ignore them.
- 20:07>> That’s exactly what Miro-kun does. I
- 20:10do not. You're so attentive until
- 20:12you've "caught" them. You’re so
- 20:15diligent until you start dating, but
- 20:16then you act like you don't do anything
- 20:18at all. Pfft.
- 20:21>> I never mentioned anything about bait.
- 20:24>> I guess when you hear "fishing," you
- 20:26automatically think of fish and bait.
- 20:28>> It's been like that the whole time.
- 20:29>> Yeah.
- 20:30>> So, it's about not giving them fish but
- 20:32teaching them how to fish. That's my
- 20:33educational philosophy; I want to
- 20:35provide an environment where they can
- 20:36earn for themselves and have them earn
- 20:38properly on their own.
- 20:39>> Yeah. Well, that's how I've done things
- 20:41myself. Yeah.
- 20:42>> Yeah. That's how I hope they do it, too
- 20:44. Yeah. But even among the wealthy, the
- 20:47overwhelming majority want to leave
- 20:48assets to their children. I'm not
- 20:50denying that at all, I just hope they
- 20:52don't fight over it, so I suggest
- 20:54writing a will first.
- 20:55>> It makes a huge difference whether
- 20:57there is a will or not.
- 20:58>> You need to put your true intentions
- 21:00into the will.
- 21:01>> Yeah, to reduce taxes, you should
- 21:03utilize real estate.
- 21:05>> Or you could set up an asset management
- 21:07company or a public interest
- 21:08incorporated foundation; those are some
- 21:10options. So it depends on the person's
- 21:12stage in life, but for the
- 21:14ultra-wealthy, while there is a
- 21:15tax-saving purpose, they might also set
- 21:17up a public interest foundation for the
- 21:20benefit of society.
- 21:21>> Wow, I see, things like that exist.
- 21:23>> Yeah. People who run companies might
- 21:25set up an asset management firm.
- 21:27>> Yeah. And individuals might utilize
- 21:29real estate, for example.
- 21:30>> It just means there are various methods
- 21:32suited to each person.
- 21:33>> There really are.
- 21:34>> Yeah. You'll end up doing that
- 21:35eventually, too.
- 21:36>> I suppose so.
- 21:36>> Yeah.
- 21:37>> Eventually, I want to get into real
- 21:38estate.
- 21:38>> I want to own real estate. Oh, I see.
- 21:40>> Yes. But when you hear about real
- 21:41estate, it makes you want to own some,
- 21:42doesn't it?
- 21:42>> Yeah, that's exactly right.
- 21:44>> Yeah. I've almost given in to that
- 21:45temptation many times.
- 21:46>> You did collaborate with them before,
- 21:48didn't you?
- 21:49>> Right, right, exactly. There are a lot
- 21:51of people around me who have built
- 21:52wealth that way.
- 21:53>> Yeah.
- 21:53>> Yeah.
- 21:54>> Real estate feels like a dream, or
- 21:56rather, it's just really impressive.
- 21:58>> Yeah. With real estate, the larger the
- 22:00investment, the higher the chance of
- 22:02making a profit. Small investments have
- 22:05a lower chance of success, but good
- 22:07properties cost a fair amount. However,
- 22:10those kinds of properties almost always
- 22:12go up in value.
- 22:13>> That's true.
- 22:14>> Yeah, I'm definitely interested in real
- 22:16estate.
- 22:16>> Right.
- 22:17>> Someday.
- 22:18>> But you can drastically lower the
- 22:19valuation for inheritance tax purposes.
- 22:21>> If you combine that with loans, you can
- 22:23actually lower inheritance taxes to the
- 22:25absolute minimum.
- 22:26>> Oh.
- 22:27>> Lion-san talked about techniques like
- 22:29that. Lion-san is truly amazing, after
- 22:32all.
- 22:33>> Yeah. Yeah.
- 22:34>> I definitely want you to watch it. It's
- 22:35interesting. When you listen to him
- 22:37talk,
- 22:37>> it makes you want to get into real
- 22:39estate investing.
- 22:40>> Yeah. Right. He's built wealth, and it
- 22:42shows in his character—he’s so
- 22:44generous and fun to be around. That
- 22:46Lion-san.
- 22:48>> He’s a really great guy.
- 22:51>> A truly good person.
- 22:52>> A good guy.
- 22:53>> Yes. There's a video featuring
- 22:55Sugawara-san, so please be sure to
- 22:56watch it.
- 22:57>> I hope you'll check it out.
- 22:58>> Yes.
- 22:59>> Yes. So, that is the current situation
- 23:03in Japan. I think we're seeing a bit of
- 23:06polarization.
- 23:06>> But I believe that if more Japanese
- 23:08people adopt an investment mindset,
- 23:09they can become more prosperous.
- 23:11>> I really think so. I hope Japanese
- 23:14people will utilize NISA more—I
- 23:16explained the rule changes in another
- 23:18video—and increase their financial
- 23:20literacy so they can keep getting
- 23:22wealthier.
- 23:24>> Yes. That's true. That's why Japanese
- 23:26people can't travel abroad right now.
- 23:28>> Ah.
- 23:29>> If you go to New York, ramen costs
- 23:305,000 yen.
- 23:31>> Well, that's true.
- 23:32>> Yeah. You can't go.
- 23:33>> True.
- 23:34>> Yeah. It's tough.
- 23:35>> Yeah. It's tough. I want Japanese
- 23:37people to be wealthy enough to travel.
- 23:38>> I agree. By investing.
- 23:40>> Yeah. For that to happen, I really want
- 23:42the government to change taxes and
- 23:43social security so that people's
- 23:45incomes actually go up.
- 23:46>> Indeed. I’d like to see that change.
- 23:48>> I’d like to see that change. Yes.
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- 25:01>> Yes.
- 25:01>> Here is today's bonus question.
- 25:02>> Oh, that's an interesting question.
- 25:04>> Yeah.
- 25:04>> Mr. Sugawara, are you a briefs person
- 25:06or a boxers person?
- 25:07>> Mr. Sugawara's underwear situation.
- 25:10Underwear.
- 25:10>> Ah, but there are also boxer brief fans
- 25:12, you know.
- 25:13>> Boxer brief fans, too.
- 25:14>> Yeah. Briefs or boxers?
- 25:16>> Yes.
- 25:16>> So, what's with the boxer brief fans?
- 25:18Select one.
- 25:19>> No, I don't. It's one or the other.
- 25:21It's one or the other. But that person
- 25:23probably isn't wearing boxers. I think
- 25:26it's probably trunks. This person.
- 25:28>> Oh, do they still have trunks?
- 25:30>> They do.
- 25:31>> Oh, really? Isn't it basically all
- 25:33boxers now?
- 25:34>> I guess so.
- 25:35>> Yeah. Miro-kun also, you know,
- 25:37>> gave me boxers.
- 25:39>> Pink boxers.
- 25:40>> They were pink boxers. The pink
- 25:43>> Wearing the pink boxers, yeah.
- 25:45>> I ended up spinning in them.
- 25:47>> That's right.
- 25:48>> That's right. Oh, that's right.
- 25:52>> Here you go.
- 25:53>> Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Wait a second.
- 25:58They disappeared.
- 26:03>> Nishino-kun, happy birthday.
- 26:07>> Thank you very much.
- 26:09>> Yes. It's Nishino-kun's birthday.
- 26:11>> Amazing. That's right. 2
- 26:13>> days later.
- 26:14>> It's a boxer brief set. Thank you very
- 26:20much.
- 26:20>> Amazing.
- 26:22>> Uh,
- 26:22>> you know, you've taken care of me, it's
- 26:24all thanks to Miro-kun.
- 26:25>> No, no, no, no, no.
- 26:27>> Yes. You know,
- 26:31>> well, we're always filming. I'm sorry.
- 26:33It got interrupted.
- 26:34>> Are you a boxer guy, Suu-san?
- 26:36>> Yeah. I'm a boxer guy. Right. Only
- 26:39>> two types, for me. Boxers.
- 26:40>> Eh, two types of boxers?
- 26:42>> Yeah. The ones I got from Miro-kun,
- 26:44>> Hysteric Glamour boxer briefs or 7-
- 26:46Eleven boxer briefs, it's one or the
- 26:48other.
- 26:49>> I totally get that. I wear those
- 26:52sometimes too. So, Suu-san, yes. Thank
- 26:58you very much. There's nothing else
- 27:04left.
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