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0:00For the first 25 years, I prayed for a
0:02lot of people, but I might have seen 30
0:04people over those 25 years get healed.
0:06But I got a revelation that changed
0:08everything.
0:09>> Could you tell us some testimonies of
0:10some of the unbelievers getting healed?
0:12>> I went [music] into a computer store and
0:14the woman's staring at my mouth. She
0:15said, "I'm nerve deaf in both ears. I
0:17can't hear you." I said, "Read my lips.
0:19I'm going to put my hands on your ears.
0:20Jesus is going to do everything else."
0:22And she backed up, she goes, "Wow, I can
0:24hear. I can hear." And I thought, "Wow,
0:27that worked."
0:28I'm going to do that again.
0:29>> The devil wants us to get that
0:30nervousness [music] and the fear to
0:32claim that as this is who I am and I
0:34can't do this.
0:36>> It's like there's this little demon
0:37whispering in your ear and saying,
0:38"You're going to be [music] embarrassed.
0:39You better not say it bold like that.
0:40What if nothing happens? You'll be
0:41humiliated." That thought comes to my
0:43mind.
0:44>> These are huge keys to being effective
0:46in the harvest fields.
0:48>> I saw more people get healed the first
0:49month after God showed me something to
0:51change [music]
0:51than I had seen in all 25 years
0:53combined. And here's the key part.
0:57>> Right before we get into the podcast, if
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1:10Welcome to the Nicholas Boring Podcast.
1:11Today, we have with us Joel Crumpton.
1:13Joel, it's great to have you on.
1:15>> It's good to be here.
1:16>> Yeah, thanks for coming in. So, tell us
1:18a little bit about your life right now
1:20and what God has you doing in this
1:21season.
1:22>> Well, uh I've been in ministry since I
1:25guess I guess about 40 years, little
1:27over 40 years. I've been following Jesus
1:2948 years, but I wasn't in full-time
1:31ministry. I was just a soul winner.
1:33Uh in the early years, I didn't know
1:35what I was doing, so I did I'm I just
1:36made did more harm than good because I
1:39had a lot of zeal without knowledge.
1:41Right now, I'm doing a lot of uh we're
1:42still doing a lot of homeless ministry
1:44on the streets of Atlanta. And I
1:45traveled to different countries and
1:47equip people to do the works of Jesus. I
1:49wrote I wrote a book about it.
1:51Primarily, I I want to equip the body of
1:52Christ
1:54and everyday Christians, not just people
1:55that are in full-time ministry, but
1:57people that just sit on the pews and and
2:00listen to preachers. I want to equip
2:01them to do the works that Jesus did
2:04outside the walls of the church so that
2:07Christianity is no longer something
2:09that's boring.
2:10>> Mhm.
2:10>> It's something that's thrilling and
2:12exciting and and something that they can
2:14do between Sunday and Wednesday night.
2:17>> Amen. Now, you mentioned that you used
2:20to do more harm than good. You had a lot
2:22of zeal without knowledge. Give us a a a
2:25few examples of that cuz you're not the
2:27only one. I think a lot of people get
2:28out there in zeal without knowledge and
2:31the same things can happen. But, what
2:34what were some of the things that you
2:36were doing and that you would recommend
2:38not doing?
2:39>> Well, I I found this thing called the
2:41sinner's prayer. I found out about
2:42something called the sinner's prayer and
2:44I that that I thought that's how people
2:45got saved was just repeating a sinner's
2:47prayer after me. And so, I came up with
2:51a sinner with a good way to word it up
2:53what I thought was a good way to word
2:54the sinner's prayer. And I would get I
2:57would go talk to my friends. I talked to
2:58my one of my good friend's sister. He
3:01and I used to do drugs together before I
3:02got saved. And I got her to pray the
3:05sinner's prayer, but after after that
3:08happened, I noticed that whenever I went
3:09to visit her, she was like she didn't
3:11wouldn't come to the door. She kind of
3:12ran hid under the bed or something, you
3:14know.
3:14>> Mhm.
3:15>> She avoided me. And I noticed almost
3:17everybody that I got to pray the
3:19sinner's prayer with me in those early
3:20days
3:22ended up just like they were before. The
3:24only difference was they thought they
3:26were Christians, but they were living
3:28the same way they were before.
3:29>> Mhm.
3:30>> And that frustrated me. So, I remember
3:34I told the Lord one day I said, "Lord,
3:35I'm not going to do this anymore because
3:37I don't know what I'm doing." And it was
3:38almost an audible voice spoke to me and
3:41said, "Good."
3:42>> [laughter]
3:43>> I thought, "Well, I don't want to just
3:45stop."
3:46And he said, "I don't want you to stop.
3:47I want you to learn what to do." I
3:49sensed the Holy Spirit strongly saying
3:51to me I'm getting emotional talking
3:52about it because I remember it so well.
3:55I want you to learn how to win souls
3:57from reading Charles Finney's writings.
4:00So, I borrowed his autobiography
4:02from uh my best friend
4:04and I started reading it and it was
4:06blowing my mind to see what was
4:08possible. I didn't even know the things
4:11I was reading in that book were possible
4:12as far as the kind of conviction of sin
4:15that people could experience citywide.
4:18Mhm. When a whole city would get under
4:19conviction and and Finney said some of
4:21the of the cities or towns that he would
4:23go to
4:25he would uh set up a time for the people
4:27to meet who were concerned about their
4:29souls. Now, this was after they'd heard
4:30him preach a few times.
4:32They were concerned about their souls.
4:33They called it an anxious inquirers
4:35meeting.
4:36And he said uh he would appoint a
4:38particular time and he said the pastor
4:40and I pastor of the church where I was
4:42preaching and I would have a a quick
4:44breakfast and head to the meeting. He
4:45said people, when they saw us in the
4:47streets, they they started coming out of
4:49their houses. They would drop their ball
4:51their clubs on the on the green playing
4:53golf and they were running. They were
4:55coming from every direction and some of
4:56them were actually running to the
4:57meeting.
4:58And I'm thinking, I've never seen
4:59anything like that before. Mhm. Is that
5:01even possible
5:02for that kind of a move of God? And so,
5:05I started reading about it and I learned
5:07how to pray
5:08from people that knew how to pray and
5:10get get results. You know, not everybody
5:12knows how to pray that way.
5:14Everybody can, but not everybody does.
5:15So, I was learning from people who were
5:17not really seeing results before that.
5:20And they were going through the motions.
5:21It's kind of like riding a
5:23stationary bicycle. Mhm. They're
5:25pedaling like crazy, but they're not
5:27getting anywhere. They're just staying
5:28in one place.
5:29And I started seeing change and and the
5:32prayer was what the the first thing that
5:33made the difference was prayer.
5:35Learning how to pray and prevail in
5:37prayer for lost souls. Once you learn
5:40how to prevail in prayer
5:42and learn how to pray
5:43uh
5:44the prayer of faith for lost souls, you
5:47can actually see more people saved
5:49uh this is what my experience has been.
5:51I saw more people saved seemingly by
5:53accident
5:55than I could on purpose before that. I
5:57was reading a book by Charles Finney. It
5:59was a compilation of his teachings on
6:01prayer called Principles of Prayer. And
6:03so I'm reading it and I took it to work
6:04with me. I worked in a shoe store as the
6:06associate as the assistant manager at uh
6:08at a mall.
6:10And I'm reading the book and I and
6:11during my lunch break, I went over to a
6:13the food court and it was a Baptist
6:15fellow that uh had a restaurant called
6:18Kabobs. And we I got to talking to him
6:20about this book and he got excited about
6:22it. So uh on his lunch break, he comes
6:25over to the shoe store and wanted to see
6:27if he could borrow the book. Well, I'm
6:28waiting on a couple.
6:30A man wanted to try on some shoes and he
6:32had his wife with him. So he borrows the
6:33book and leaves.
6:35And I said, "Just open it anywhere, but
6:37you better wear a seat belt because that
6:38this is powerful. It'll it'll really
6:40move your your heart." So as he leaves
6:42with the book, I'm overwhelmed at the
6:44thought of him reading my that book. And
6:46so I don't even know why I said it to
6:47the customer, but I said, "That guy has
6:49no idea what he's about to read."
6:52He said, "What is it?" I said, "It's a
6:53book on prayer by Charles Finney." And
6:55the customer says, "Who's he?"
6:58I said, "According to church history,
6:59he's probably the greatest evangelist
7:00since the Apostle Paul. More of his
7:02converts never backslid than any man in
7:04history, just like I was mentioning a
7:05moment ago."
7:06So I'm get I'm telling the story to this
7:08guy and the woman that was with him, she
7:10looked like she was about to cry.
7:12Like her like somebody had hurt her
7:14feelings or uh like she was
7:17super self-conscious.
7:19I was I wasn't in a spiritual frame of
7:21mind at all because I wasn't picking up
7:23what was really happening.
7:24So I I hear the Holy Spirit on the
7:26inside of me say, "She's under
7:27conviction."
7:28And I thought, "Lord, I'm not even
7:29talking to her."
7:30I thought that.
7:32And and I felt the Lord say to me,
7:33"Well, I am."
7:35>> Mhm.
7:35>> I thought, "Well, she looks like she's
7:37under conviction."
7:38The look on her face, she had tears in
7:40her eyes, you know, to of she was kind
7:41of hot at
7:42>> Mhm.
7:43>> And uh so I just stopped talking to the
7:45man
7:46and I just looked over at her. She was
7:47sitting beside him. I said, "Can I ask
7:49you a question?" And she act acted kind
7:51of reluctant to answer me. She said,
7:52"What?"
7:54I said, "Is God dealing with you about
7:55your sins?" And she screamed, "Yes!" And
7:59fell over on her put her hands over her
8:01face and just kind of fell over forward
8:03on her knees
8:04and started crying. And the man looked
8:06at me like, "What did you do to her?"
8:07And I thought, "What am I going to do
8:09now?" Okay.
8:10My manager could walk back in at any
8:12moment and I'd be in trouble if they is
8:13a customer laying on the floor crying.
8:15So I just got down on one knee
8:17and I said, "Ma'am, I said the Holy
8:19Spirit's drawing you to Jesus right now.
8:22And Jesus said you can't come to him
8:23unless the Father draws you to him.
8:25Right now is your moment. You got to
8:27make up your mind."
8:28I said, "I know we're at the mall. I
8:30said, if I were you, I would go
8:31immediately down to the food court, get
8:33in one of the go into the ladies' room,
8:35get in one of those stalls if you have
8:37to and shut the door and don't come out
8:39of there until you know that you've
8:40surrendered your life to Jesus."
8:43I looked at the man that was with her. I
8:44guess it was her husband or her
8:46boyfriend.
8:47And I said, "If you try to hinder her, I
8:48know you're thinking about it
8:50talking her out of into just shaking it
8:52off. I said, "But if you try to do that
8:54and you succeed, she may end up in hell
8:56forever and God's will require her blood
8:59at your hands."
9:01And they got up and left real quickly.
9:02The moment they left, my manager walked
9:04in. They walked out that way, he walked
9:06in this way and I said, "Hey, I'm going
9:08to go put some stock away." What I
9:10wanted to do was as I'm putting stock
9:11away just be praying in the spirit. So I
9:13went back in the back and I'm just
9:14praying because I know what's going on.
9:17I know God's dealing with her.
9:18And about 15 minutes after I'm back
9:20there praying in the spirit, he said,
9:21"Okay." So he's watching the store.
9:23So he comes back and says, "Joel,
9:25there's a man out here there's a woman
9:26out here that wants to talk to you."
9:28I figured it was her and it was.
9:31So I go out there and she's beside
9:32herself with excitement. She's crying.
9:35She's hugging me three or four times.
9:36She kept slinging her hands. and she
9:37said, "I've waited my whole life for
9:38this. Thank you. Thank you." Well, she
9:40was alone. She wasn't with the man.
9:43And I And I thought I said, "Where's the
9:44Where's uh
9:45that man that was with you?" She said,
9:47"Oh, he's out in the mall out there."
9:49So, I looked over, and he was just kind
9:50of leaning over like like he was
9:52afraid to come in
9:54like get on him or something.
9:55>> Yeah.
9:56>> I used to couldn't get people saved on
9:57purpose.
9:58>> Mhm.
9:59>> And that woman got in conviction. I was
10:01talking to him. I wasn't even talking.
10:02She was just listening. And then what
10:04the Lord showed me was when you learn
10:06how to prevail with God in prayer,
10:09God
10:10it it's almost like the presence of God
10:12permeates the atmosphere around you.
10:15And people can feel his presence. That's
10:17really what got me saved.
10:19>> So, you didn't stop leading them in
10:21confessing with their mouth and
10:23believing in their heart.
10:24>> I did for a while because I wanted to
10:26make sure that they sta- that that they
10:28lasted.
10:29>> Mhm.
10:29>> That they that I wasn't inoculating them
10:32against the the gospel. If I take a flu
10:34shot,
10:36you know what's in that shot?
10:37>> The flu.
10:38>> Mhm. [clears throat]
10:39>> It's a version of the flu that's that's
10:41non-effective.
10:42And what it does it prevents them from
10:44getting the real flu. And that's what we
10:46do a lot of times when we share a
10:47watered-down version of the gospel,
10:50it inoculates them against the real
10:52gospel. They think they're okay.
10:54>> Yeah.
10:54>> But the truth is they're they're just
10:57inoculated. And the same is true about
10:59healing. In my early days, I was taught
11:01and still believe this that it's always
11:03God's will to heal the sick.
11:06The problem I had back in those days was
11:08I wasn't seeing
11:10uh
11:11everybody getting healed.
11:12>> Mhm.
11:13>> I saw once in a while I would see a
11:15healing. You know, we'd go to We have a
11:17lot of altar calls for a lot of
11:18different things, salvation, healing,
11:20the baptism with the Holy Spirit.
11:23And we would pray for people, and when
11:25they would receive whatever it was that
11:27they needed, we wouldn't know how we got
11:29it
11:30what we did differently to get them to
11:32receive, especially with healing and the
11:34baptism of the Holy Spirit. We would
11:36pray sometimes for an hour or two at the
11:38altar with somebody before they'd either
11:40get healed, filled with the Holy Spirit,
11:42or nothing. We'd finally just give up.
11:44>> Mhm.
11:45>> And so I thought, well, I can't change
11:47my theology just because I'm not seeing
11:49it.
11:50>> Right, which is big. A lot of people
11:52>> They do. They'll change it. They'll
11:53change their theology into thinking for
11:55instance for healing with healing for
11:56instance.
11:58A lot of people say, well, I prayed for
11:59a bunch of people and I know it
12:01I know I prayed in faith, but they
12:03didn't get healed. So I guess it's not
12:04always God's will to heal.
12:05>> Right.
12:06>> Well, I can't change my [clears throat]
12:07theology because the scriptures Jesus
12:10came to do the will of his father who
12:12sent him. And over and over and over it
12:14says he healed them all.
12:16The only time it says that he didn't
12:18heal them all was in his own hometown of
12:21Nazareth. And it says he marveled he
12:24said he could there do no mighty work
12:27except that he laid his hands on a few
12:29sick folks and healed them.
12:31And he marveled at their unbelief. So I
12:33thought, okay, unbelief even prevented
12:35Jesus from getting people healed when he
12:37prayed for them.
12:38But I was mistaken.
12:40That was not true. I thought he prayed
12:42for a lot of people in Nazareth and only
12:44a few got healed because of their
12:45unbelief. But that's not what it says. I
12:48I actually thought that's what it said
12:49in the Bible. But it actually says
12:52he did It doesn't say he laid his hand
12:53on many and a few got healed. It said he
12:55laid his he laid his hands on a few and
12:58healed them.
12:59>> Mhm.
12:59>> So why did he only lay his hands on a
13:01few?
13:02Because the people were offended at him
13:04and they wouldn't come to him for
13:06healing. But everyone who came to him
13:07got healed. Without exception.
13:09>> it doesn't make sense that the people in
13:11his own hometown are saying, "Look,
13:13here's his mom, there's his kids. Like,
13:15who does this guy think he is?" "Oh, but
13:17can you pray for me so I can be healed?"
13:19>> [laughter]
13:19>> It doesn't It doesn't make any sense for
13:21people to do that.
13:22>> at him. They thought, "Who does he think
13:23he is?"
13:24>> Right.
13:24>> And the The that did let him lay hands
13:26on them got healed. For the first 25
13:28years of of my walk with Jesus, I prayed
13:31for a lot of people, but I might have
13:33seen about 30 people over those 25 years
13:36get healed, maybe.
13:38I didn't count them.
13:40But I remembered most of them because,
13:42you know, you when you don't see that
13:43many, it's not hard to remember.
13:44>> Mhm.
13:45>> But I got a revelation
13:47about, well,
13:4923 years ago
13:51that changed everything.
13:53And since I got that revelation, I've
13:55seen more people get healed. I saw more
13:57people get healed the first month after
13:59I got after God showed me something to
14:01change
14:02than I had seen in all 25 years
14:03combined. It it flipped everything
14:05upside down.
14:07Or right side up, I should say.
14:08>> Yeah.
14:09>> When Jesus began his ministry,
14:12he
14:13the Holy Spirit descended upon him in in
14:14bodily shape like a dove.
14:16>> Mhm.
14:16>> He went into the wilderness. He was
14:17tempted and tested for 40 days and 40
14:19nights. He came out of the wilderness in
14:21the power of the Spirit, went into the
14:22synagogue in Nazareth on the Sabbath
14:24day,
14:26took they handed him the book of the
14:28prophet. It was a scroll of the prophet
14:29Isaiah, and he found the place where it
14:31was written and read it out loud. Now,
14:34in the front Now, this is interesting.
14:36In the front [clears throat] of every
14:37synagogue in those days, they say that
14:40there was a a chair that they that no
14:41one ever sat in.
14:43Every synagogue had this empty chair. It
14:45was their way of showing God that they
14:47were waiting and expecting their Messiah
14:49to come.
14:51And that empty chair was reserved for
14:52the Messiah. But Jesus stands up and
14:54reads from the scroll and it says, "The
14:56Spirit of the Lord is upon me because he
14:57has anointed me to proclaim good news to
14:59the poor. He has sent me to heal the
15:01brokenhearted, to proclaim liberty to
15:03the captives, recovering of sight to the
15:05blind, the opening of the prison to
15:07those who are bound, to proclaim the
15:09year of the Lord's favor." He rolls up
15:11the scroll, hands it to the attendant,
15:14and sits down.
15:16Where did he sit down?
15:18In that chair.
15:19>> And all All eyes of those in in room
15:21were looking at him wondering at the
15:22marvelous words which he had said. And
15:24then he said, "Today, this scripture is
15:27fulfilled in your ears." That's
15:29powerful, isn't it?
15:30>> Mhm.
15:31>> So, what I The revelation I got was not
15:33[clears throat] about him sitting in the
15:34chair. The revelation I got was
15:37then the purpose of the anointing is to
15:39proclaim.
15:40And I had heard of a man, I'd actually
15:42listened to some of his uh
15:45recordings. He and his ministry teams
15:47have seen every part of the human body
15:49healed or recreated and hundreds,
15:53several hundred people raised from the
15:54dead.
15:55>> Before we jump back into our
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16:10>> So, I noticed that he would always tell
16:12the people what was going to happen
16:13before he ever ministered to them.
16:16Boldly.
16:17Like one one time he went into a village
16:19and he said, "There's a woman in that
16:21hut over there that needs a needs
16:23healing and he wants you to pray for
16:24her." So, he said, "I walked in.
16:26I looked around and I couldn't There was
16:28no one in there. He said, "Of course it
16:29was dark inside the hut. They didn't
16:31have lights.
16:32And he said, "I'm used to being outside
16:33where it's real bright.
16:35So, my my vision hadn't adjusted to the
16:37darkness."
16:38He said, "Now, I I don't see anybody."
16:40And suddenly I feel somebody tugging on
16:42my pants.
16:43I looked down and it was this little
16:44bitty woman
16:46standing right in front of me.
16:47But she wasn't little. He said, "Her
16:48legs went straight out to the side and
16:50curled around behind her.
16:52And she said, "She looked up at me." And
16:53I He said, "By then I understood the
16:55language Aztec, which is what she
16:57spoke." And she said, "They told me that
17:00if you would put your hand on my head,
17:03that I would be able to walk." He said,
17:05"They told you right." He said, "You're
17:07in great fortune. The kingdom of God has
17:09come to your house today." And she said,
17:12"Where is it?" He said, "You're looking
17:14at it." He He "I'm an ambassador for the
17:16greatest king that ever was." He said,
17:18"I am going to put my hand on your head
17:20and Jesus is going to heal you and
17:21you're going to be able to walk right
17:23now."
17:25He says, "I put my hand on her head and
17:26he didn't pray for her. He proclaimed in
17:29the name of the Lord Jesus Christ, be
17:32healed." And he said, "All of a sudden
17:34her legs begin to move around behind
17:35her, raised her up right in front of
17:37me."
17:38>> Mhm.
17:38>> She was normal height.
17:40He said, "You should see that." And I
17:41thought, "Yeah."
17:43I [laughter] could see I want to see
17:45that. That's crazy.
17:47So I I listened to that over and over
17:48and I thought, "I can't be that
17:50something."
17:51But what I noticed was everyone that
17:53Jesus ministered to when he was on the
17:56earth, he didn't pray for them to be
17:58healed.
17:59He healed them.
18:01Well, did he pray? Yeah, he prayed a
18:03lot. He prayed all night sometimes.
18:05>> Mhm.
18:05>> He would rise early in the morning and
18:07go into a solitary place place and pray.
18:09But when he ministered to the sick in
18:11public, he never prayed for them in
18:13public. He healed them in public.
18:16He said to us,
18:18"When you pray, enter into your closet
18:20in secret. Your father who sees you in
18:22secret will reward you openly."
18:26In other words, you do your praying in
18:27secret,
18:29the father arranges divine appointments
18:31for you,
18:32and then when you see the opportunities
18:33to minister to people, the father
18:35rewards you by doing what you prayed for
18:38in secret because it's intimidating.
18:41To think the thought of walking up to
18:43somebody that's crippled or in a
18:45wheelchair or are they wearing are they
18:47on crutches and they've got a medical
18:49boot on their leg. And the thought of
18:51saying to them,
18:52"What happened?" You know, and they'll
18:53tell you and then and then saying,
18:55"Well, the reason I'm asking all these
18:56questions is I've got good news for you.
18:58The kingdom of heaven has come near to
19:00you." Because Jesus said to say that in
19:02Matthew chapter 10, verses 7 and 8. "As
19:05you go," he said, "preach saying, the
19:08kingdom of heaven has come near to you."
19:11And then he said, "Heal the sick,
19:13cleanse the lepers, raise the dead,
19:16drive out demons. Freely you have
19:18received, freely give." It's It's
19:21intimidating. Makes you nervous. It's
19:24like there's this little demon
19:25whispering in your ear and saying,
19:26"You're going to be embarrassed. You
19:27better not say it bold like that. You
19:29better not tell them that they're that
19:30they're going to be healed. Tell them
19:31you believe they're going to be healed.
19:32Don't tell them they're going to be
19:33healed because what if they don't get
19:35healed? You'll be embarrassed." Those
19:36are the thoughts that demon will whisper
19:38in your ears. So, what it gives What it
19:40makes you want to do is water it down.
19:43>> Mhm.
19:44>> You know, don't don't be so bold. What
19:46if nothing happens? You'll be
19:47humiliated. Well, that thought comes to
19:50my mind.
19:50>> Can you give us some some scriptural
19:52examples of that very thing happening?
19:54>> When Peter raised up Dorcas, I think.
19:57Now, he didn't pray for her to be
19:58healed. He knelt down beside her and
20:00prayed first. And then when he
20:02ministered healing to her, he just told
20:04her to get up.
20:05>> Mhm.
20:06>> He said the Lord He said, "Jesus Christ
20:08makes you whole." So, he proclaimed
20:11healing that way. Raised her up.
20:13>> Right.
20:13>> So, obviously whatever killed her
20:14whatever disease killed her was she was
20:16healed of that and her spirit came back
20:18into her body and she was restored to
20:19life. So, that's the first one that
20:21comes to my mind.
20:22>> Mhm. Yeah, the man at the beautiful
20:24gate.
20:25>> Yeah, the man at the the gate there.
20:26>> Silver and gold I do not have, but what
20:27I do have
20:28>> Exactly.
20:28>> rise up and walk.
20:29>> And And you got the other story of uh
20:31when Paul went I think it was Paul. He
20:34went to a particular place and there was
20:35a man there that was lame from his
20:37mother's womb and had never walked.
20:38>> Mhm.
20:38>> And he heard Paul preach.
20:41And And Paul perceived that the man had
20:44faith to be healed, but he didn't pray
20:46for him. He pointed to him and said,
20:47"Stand up on your feet."
20:49He told him to do what he couldn't do.
20:51>> Yeah.
20:51>> And he he leaped and walked.
20:54>> Often times I'll I'll tell people when I
20:56walk up to them I sometimes I'll start
20:58out, "Hey, I just want to make sure you
21:00know that Jesus loves you
21:01>> Yeah.
21:01>> and make sure you've heard about him."
21:02And then that all kind of segue me into
21:04>> Yes.
21:05>> the good news of Jesus Christ. So, in
21:08saying that, um, there was a a certain
21:10minister, even on YouTube, I think he
21:13made it, maybe there were other people
21:14who were saying the same thing, but I
21:15think he made it in kind of in response
21:17to the way that some of our videos are
21:19or start out. Um, and he was basically
21:21saying we shouldn't tell people that
21:24Jesus loves them or that God loves them.
21:26And he used the the reference, uh, which
21:29was Jesus didn't go around telling
21:31people I love you. And then he tried to
21:34take it more into conviction of sin and
21:37the law and things like that, which
21:39obviously we're not against that. Like
21:41Jesus used the law to convict people of
21:42sin, that's the purpose of the law to as
21:44a tutor to lead people to Christ. But it
21:46it just kind of pushed me to kind of
21:48search out the scriptures and find out
21:50does Jesus love people? One, we know
21:52that
21:53>> He does, absolutely.
21:54>> reveals or demonstrates his love for us
21:56in this, that while we were yet sinners,
21:58Christ died for us. So, that tells us
22:00even while we're sinners, God
22:02demonstrated his love for us. While
22:04we're still in the sin, not just because
22:05we got born again, now God loves us.
22:07While we're still in the sin, God loves
22:09us and demonstrated it. Didn't just say
22:11it, but demonstrated his love for Christ
22:13dying for us.
22:14>> And it talks about the rich young ruler,
22:15Jesus looked at him and loved him.
22:17>> Amen.
22:18>> When when he was saying what must I do
22:19to inherit eternal life, he said keep
22:20the commandments. He said which ones? He
22:22said you shall not steal, you shall not
22:24kill, you shall not bear false witness,
22:26honor your father and your mother.
22:27>> Mhm.
22:27>> And then he said, you shall love your
22:29neighbor as yourself. He said I've done
22:30these since my youth. What do I lack? He
22:32said go sell what you have and give to
22:34the poor and you'll have treasure in
22:36heaven and come take up your cross and
22:37follow me.
22:38>> Right.
22:38>> went away sorrowful. Jesus looked at him
22:41and loved him and he said that.
22:42>> Amen. So, I say that just to point out
22:45we should be telling everyone who's
22:46witnessing we should be telling people
22:49God loves you. We we should be
22:50expressing, that's what the cross is. It
22:53doesn't take away from conviction of
22:55sin. It's not like they're contrary.
22:57People need to get convicted of sin and,
22:59you know, then God loves them maybe
23:01afterwards or almost like they clash.
23:04They don't clash. It can mesh perfectly
23:06with the conviction of sin. Even
23:08conviction, if we think about conviction
23:10versus condemnation, condemnation dooms
23:12us, condemnation is us being damned and
23:16us being separated from God. Us
23:18literally sin separates us from God.
23:20That would be condemnation. You're
23:21eternally separated from him. But
23:23conviction
23:25is revealing your sin but not dooming
23:28you but rather drawing you to God. But
23:31the purpose of conviction, what God is
23:32really wanting to do is draw you closer
23:34to him. So you can see even see the love
23:36of God within conviction to get that sin
23:40out of your life, get what's separating
23:42you from God out of your life so that
23:44you can be welcomed come into peace with
23:46him, be reconciled even back to him.
23:49>> I remember when I was first saved, I was
23:51having having having a bad day. My
23:53family didn't want anything to do with
23:55me anymore.
23:57My brothers hated my guts because all I
23:59talked about was Jesus.
24:00And my I didn't have any friends. The
24:03friends I did have, they moved away or
24:04they were doing drugs. I was in my
24:06basement in my parents' house.
24:08In in the basement where I where my
24:10little bed was and I I'd lay in there
24:12and I I said out loud, "God, nobody
24:14loves me."
24:16Nobody.
24:18And he said, "I love you."
24:21And that melted me.
24:23I I just started weeping. I said, "Lord,
24:25if you love me, it don't matter whether
24:26anybody else does or not. If the whole
24:28world loved me and you didn't love me,
24:31I'd be doomed.
24:32But if you love me,
24:34He said, "I love you and I'm being
24:35patient with you. You got some growing
24:36to do."
24:38And I he was right. He always is.
24:40>> [laughter]
24:41>> I found out how much growing I had to
24:43do.
24:43>> Yeah.
24:44>> There are so many people who call
24:46themselves Christians today
24:48and go to church, read their Bible,
24:50maybe they go to a life group or a Bible
24:52study or something like that, but
24:54they're still habitually sinning.
24:56They're practicing sin, they're
24:58willfully sinning, doing these things
25:00that the Bible makes this long list of
25:02the works of the flesh. People who do
25:04these things will not inherit the
25:06kingdom of God, you know? So, it's like
25:09how are we going to call ourselves a
25:10Christian and then if we can point out
25:12these things on this list, the works of
25:14the flesh, almost want to go into that.
25:17Galatians 5 chapter 19, it says, "Now
25:20the works of the flesh are evident,
25:21which are adultery, fornication,
25:23uncleanness, lewdness, idolatry,
25:26sorcery, hatred, contentions." On on
25:29hatred, the Lord gave me a revelation.
25:32Disliking someone, if you look that up,
25:35it's actually the definition in
25:37Webster's 1828, which is a biblical
25:38dictionary, it means a moderate form of
25:42hatred to dislike someone. And you hear
25:45some people say, "Well, I love them, but
25:46I don't like them." You can't say I love
25:48someone, but I I moderately hate them at
25:50the same time. That's what you're
25:51saying. I love them, but I like them.
25:52You're saying, "Oh, I love them, but I I
25:54moderately hate them."
25:56>> [laughter]
25:56>> It's like it doesn't work out. It's
25:58actually a form of a bitterness and and
26:01unforgiveness, disliking disliking a
26:04person because Jesus said love your
26:05enemies. So, anyway, hatred,
26:08contentions, jealousies, a lot of people
26:11walk in jealousy. There's a godly
26:12jealousy, but there's a worldly
26:14outbursts of wrath, selfish ambitions.
26:17That's a big one, especially in the
26:18church. People who get self- selfishly
26:20ambitious, people who want the
26:22microphone, people who want the pulpit,
26:24people who want to get out there in
26:26ministry before God has put them through
26:27the process of really getting them
26:29there. A lot of self-ambition can take
26:32place. Dissensions, heresies, envy is
26:35another one. Dissensions, murders,
26:37drunkenness, that's a big one as well.
26:39People getting drunk and thinking, "Oh,
26:41it's okay." Revelries, which are
26:43drinking parties.
26:44So, people who are going to parties
26:46where people are getting drunk, that's a
26:48work of the flesh.
26:49And the like of which I tell you
26:51beforehand, just as I also told you in
26:53time past, that those who practice such
26:55things will not inherit the kingdom of
26:57God.
26:58People can't make the excuse, "Oh, well,
27:00Jesus died for my sin." and still
27:02practice these things. You can say
27:04you're a Christian, but Jesus said, "Why
27:06do you call me Lord, but you don't do
27:08the things that I say? You don't keep my
27:09words. You don't keep my commands, but
27:11you call me Lord." So, it doesn't matter
27:13if someone calls him Lord, but they
27:15still practice these things. So, this
27:18was convicting to me As I was reading
27:20this, at one point, I'm like, "Ooh." You
27:22know, I I could pinpoint, "Oh, there's a
27:24little bit of jealousy and envy in my
27:27heart." And I had to repent and confess
27:29those things. And if we confess them,
27:31he's faithful and just to forgive us and
27:32cleans us from all unrighteousness. So,
27:34it doesn't mean because you've done this
27:36once, you're going to hell. No, confess
27:38it and repent of those things. And then
27:41don't practice them. Don't willfully
27:42continue in it. Don't know that
27:45practicing would be knowing that you're
27:47doing something even before you do it.
27:49You don't accidentally practice playing
27:50basketball. It's not an accident. You
27:52didn't You didn't uh slip
27:55and stumble.
27:56>> [laughter]
27:56>> You don't just stumble onto a basketball
27:58court
27:59in a game and the ball gets passed to
28:01you and you just accidentally throw it
28:03up.
28:04And then it goes in the basket. Sorry,
28:06guys. You You purposely go to the court.
28:09You know where you're going before you
28:10go. You know what you're about to do
28:12before you do it. And then, you pick up
28:14the basketball. You're dribbling it.
28:16You're getting better at it. You're
28:18shooting it intentionally.
28:20That That That's where the practicing
28:21versus a stumbling or an accidental or
28:24an unconscious sin or uh maybe you did
28:27know it was wrong. You slipped up and
28:28you did it. But then this godly sorrow
28:31and this confession and this repentance,
28:33right? But it's this this justifying it
28:35and this practicing it.
28:37>> Justifying is where you get in trouble.
28:38>> Yeah.
28:39>> So, when people backslide,
28:42you know, there's Christians that are on
28:43fire for God uh Uh, and then
28:46usually it starts when start neglecting
28:48the word and they start neglecting
28:49prayer.
28:51A Christian doesn't backslide by going
28:53out and committing sins,
28:55outward things like lying and stealing
28:57and adultery and blasphemy.
28:59Uh, usually it's sins of omission.
29:02Where they Where they stop spending time
29:04with God. They stop reading their Bible.
29:06They stop uh, going to church services.
29:09They think of it
29:10and it just over it progresses.
29:12>> Can I point out something right there?
29:13>> Yeah.
29:14>> Busyness is in our day and age is I
29:16think one of the biggest excuses of why
29:19people stop stop doing that. They say
29:21they're too busy, which Jesus dealt with
29:22with Mary and Martha. But sorry, go
29:24ahead.
29:25>> Well, they say that.
29:26>> Right.
29:26>> But you're all you're never too busy to
29:28do what you love. If you think you're
29:30too busy to do something you love, you
29:32just you're deceiving yourself into
29:34thinking you really love doing it.
29:35Because if there's something I really
29:37love to do,
29:39I'm going to find a way to do it. Even
29:40if I have to give up something else that
29:42I love less.
29:43>> Comparably speaking, God said, "Hate
29:45your father, your mother, your children,
29:48your wife, even your own life."
29:50>> So our love for him, he wants it to be
29:51so much greater than our love for even
29:53those closest to us, including our own
29:55life,
29:56that by comparison it would be our love
29:58for them would be hate by comparison.
30:00>> Right.
30:02>> No not even a question
30:05as to who where your loyalty is.
30:07Anything that would hinder your
30:08relationship or or put out the fire of
30:11and your zeal for God should be looked
30:15at as something I can't do. I can't have
30:17that.
30:18>> Earlier we were talking about
30:20proclaiming proclamation. Could you tell
30:22us some testimonies of some of the the
30:25unbelievers getting healed?
30:26>> The first time I ever did it
30:28was was uh, cuz I was terrified. The
30:31thing that made it easier was I went
30:33into a business. I was selling
30:35uh, American flags to raise money for
30:37our ministry and so I go into businesses
30:39and I would sell American flags. So I
30:40went into this one business and this
30:42lady was on the phone. It was about an
30:44hour from where I lived and I saw that
30:46she needed a miracle because she had a
30:48cast on her arm and a metal plate coming
30:50out of the cast holding her finger
30:51straight. So, I thought she must have
30:53broken one of her fingers.
30:55And I said uh
30:57"What happened to your hand?" She said,
30:59"I broke my finger over the weekend. I
31:00was at a picnic and asked somebody to
31:02throw me a bottle of Gatorade and it was
31:05they threw it too hard and I went to I
31:06just ins in you know, reflexes I reached
31:09to catch it and it hit my finger and
31:12drove the bone up into my hand."
31:13>> Ooh.
31:14>> Everybody does that when I tell it.
31:15>> [laughter]
31:16>> They go, "Oh."
31:17Because I said, "That sounds painful."
31:19She says, "You have no idea." She says,
31:21"It's so painful if I even twent if I
31:23even twitch
31:24I almost faint from the pain so bad."
31:27So, I thought, "Well, I'm going to do it
31:29because I I don't have to ever come back
31:31in here again if I don't want to."
31:32I was in some kind of
31:34uh business office. She was a
31:36receptionist. I said "Uh well, the
31:38reason I'm asking you all this is I've
31:40got good news for you."
31:41I said, "And what does the word gospel
31:43mean?"
31:44Good news.
31:45>> Mhm.
31:46>> And the gospel or the good news is the
31:47power of God unto salvation
31:50or healing or whatever you whatever it
31:52is you need. I said if I said uh "I got
31:54good news for you." I said, "The kingdom
31:55of heaven has come to this business."
31:58She looked at me funny.
31:59I said, "You didn't expect me to say
32:01that, did you?" She said, "No." I said,
32:03"If you'll let me touch your finger with
32:04my hand
32:05Jesus will completely heal your finger
32:07and you will have no more pain. You'll
32:08be able to bend it or whatever."
32:10And she looked at me sideways. I said I
32:12said, "I'm serious. What have you got to
32:13lose?"
32:15She goes, "Okay." She goes like this.
32:18So, I touched her finger real gently. I
32:19said, "I'll be gentle." So, I touched it
32:20and I said, "In the name of the Lord
32:22Jesus Christ, be healed."
32:25And she goes
32:27"Oh my gosh, I feel something." I said,
32:29"What's it feel like?" She said, "It's
32:30like electricity going through my hand."
32:32I got bold then. I said, "You're being
32:33healed. Jesus is healing you right now."
32:35She starts crying.
32:37I said, "Now move your finger." She
32:39said, "If it hurts, I'm I'm going to
32:40pass out." I said, "You're not going to
32:42pass out cuz it's not going to hurt.
32:43Move your finger." She starts moving her
32:45finger. She goes, "That's amazing.
32:47What's your phone number?"
32:49I said, "Why do you want my phone
32:50number?" She said, "I'm going to get
32:51this cast off today and I'm going to
32:52call you and tell you what happened." I
32:54said, "Yeah, here's my phone number."
32:56So, when I got home, I couldn't wait,
32:57you know, I got I got home and I went
32:59right to my voicemail
33:00and I listened and it was her.
33:03And she said, "Call me. This is my
33:04number. Call me. Call me."
33:06Uh and I called her and she was
33:08hysterical. She said, uh
33:11"After you left, I went into the ladies'
33:13room and I sat down on the toilet seat
33:15so that if I passed out, I wouldn't fall
33:17very far."
33:18>> [laughter]
33:19>> And she said, "I shimmied my arm out of
33:21my cast and took the plate She said, 'My
33:23hand is completely healed.'" She said,
33:25"I've still got staples in my hand from
33:26where they did the surgery. So, I called
33:28the doctor and he told him what
33:29happened. He said, 'You can't move your
33:31finger. There's no way.
33:33I just did surgery on you over the
33:34weekend.'" She said, "Well, I'm moving
33:35it and it's And Jesus healed my He said,
33:38'That's a miracle. Come in tomorrow and
33:39I'll take the staples out.'" So, I
33:41remember it was the first time I did it.
33:43I ever ministered to somebody and I
33:44thought, "Wow, that worked."
33:47I'm going to do that again. So, the
33:48following week, I went into a computer
33:50store and the woman's staring at my
33:52mouth
33:53while I'm talking to her.
33:54Like, "What What is that in your teeth?"
33:56You know, I thought, "What did I eat?"
33:57You know, "Lettuce in my teeth or
33:58something?"
34:00So, I'm getting I'm going
34:02>> [laughter]
34:03>> And she said, "I'm sorry. I'm I'm
34:04looking at your mouth because I'm deaf.
34:06I can't hear you. I'm reading your
34:07lips."
34:09>> [laughter]
34:09>> And I said,
34:10>> She said, "Sorry, cuz you were trying to
34:11pick something out of your teeth."
34:13>> I thought I needed a toothpick or
34:14something. I was just wiping my lips.
34:15>> Yeah.
34:16>> So, I said, "You can't hear?" And she
34:17goes, "No."
34:19Uh she said, "I'm nerve deaf in both
34:20ears." So, I got excited and I said, "I
34:22got good news for you."
34:24I said, "The kingdom of heaven has come
34:26to your business." I said, "Read my
34:28lips.
34:29If you'll let me touch put my hands on
34:32your ears,
34:33the power of God will go into your ears,
34:35and Jesus will heal you, and you'll be
34:37able to hear again right now.
34:39And when I said that I I was so nervous,
34:41I wanted to grab all those words I just
34:43said and put them back, you know.
34:45But it was just too late. I'd already
34:46said them. But the good news what what
34:48made me bold, the fact that I was in
34:50about an hour and a half from where I
34:51lived, and I thought, I don't ever have
34:53to come back to this town if I don't
34:54want to. So, I'm going to be extremely
34:56bold and not worry about it. Because if
34:58nothing happens, I don't have to face
34:59them. It's not my brother. It's not my
35:01next-door neighbor. I don't have to face
35:02her tomorrow. So, she said, "What do I
35:04need to do?" I said, "Let me put my
35:05stuff down." So, I put it down.
35:07I said, "I'm going to put my hands on
35:08your ears. Jesus is going to do
35:09everything else."
35:11So, I put my hands on her ears, and just
35:13as I did that, a customer walked in.
35:15>> [laughter]
35:16>> And she had her eyes closed, so she
35:17didn't hear it.
35:18>> You can't hear me?
35:20>> And she's deaf. And so, she's got her
35:22eyes closed. She don't know a customer
35:23walked in, but I'm I'm looking like this
35:25at the customer, like, "What does she
35:27What does this look like? I got her I
35:28got her by the head, you know. I got my
35:30fingers stuck in her ears. I said, "In
35:31the name of the Lord Jesus Christ, be
35:33healed." I I tried to ignore this woman.
35:35I almost wanted to say, "She'll be with
35:37you in a minute. Just hang on."
35:39So, I said, "In Jesus' name, be opened.
35:41Be healed. Thank you, Lord, for healing
35:42this woman's ears." I took my hands off
35:44her ears, and I said, And she backed up.
35:46She goes,
35:47"Wow, I can hear.
35:49I can hear. Your hands got real hot, and
35:51my ears popped. I can hear." And the
35:53woman that walked in said, "What just
35:54happened?" I said, "The kingdom of
35:55heaven just came to this business.
35:57That's what just happened." I said,
35:58"Look, you got a customer. I I need to
36:00let you get Oh, wait on your customer. I
36:02got to go." Cuz I I was kind of like I
36:04felt like That was only the second time
36:06I'd ever done it.
36:07And it was a deaf person this time. It
36:08wasn't a finger.
36:09>> Mhm.
36:10>> I felt like probably what a dog would
36:11feel like that chases trains all the
36:13time and finally caught one.
36:15>> [laughter]
36:15>> What do you do now?
36:17I caught the thing. I don't know.
36:19So, I just had to I went outside, and I
36:20did the happy dance, and Pat
36:22she's she's in the car and looking in
36:24the rearview mirror. She sees me doing
36:25the happy dance, you know.
36:27So, she she said I got in the car. She
36:28said
36:29"What happened?" I said, "Jesus just
36:31healed a woman's hearing. She got her
36:32hearing back."
36:33She goes, "Really?" I go, "Yeah."
36:35So, after that that was the second one.
36:38That week I saw like 10 or 15 people
36:40healed just doing going about selling
36:42American flags.
36:43>> And you said 25 or how many 10 in 25
36:47years prior to this?
36:49>> I'd seen 30 in 25 years and then I seen
36:51like 10 the first week and then the next
36:53week I'm seeing I'm looking for stuff
36:55after that, you know. I'm just like if
36:57you twitch, you know, I'm going to pray
36:58for you. [laughter]
36:59I'm going to minister to you if you
37:00twitch.
37:01And I was seeing all kinds of crazy
37:02miracles. You know, I I've noticed
37:05that when I do evangelism, I call it
37:07miracle evangelism, miracles are the
37:10dinner bell for the gospel. When God
37:12starts healing people, not only the
37:14people that get healed want to get
37:15saved, but everybody that witnessed them
37:17getting healed,
37:19their ears are wide open.
37:21Their hearts are wide open to the
37:22gospel.
37:24And they want to hear what you've got to
37:25say because there's nothing more
37:27powerful than the testimony of God. And
37:30God doesn't testify with all by speaking
37:32audibly from heaven. He's He testifies
37:35by miracles and signs and wonders,
37:37healing people. Like Philip in the
37:39Bible, in the book of Acts. When he went
37:41down to Samaria and preached uh preached
37:43the gospel to them, the Bible says that
37:45the people with one accord came uh
37:47believed the things gave heed to the
37:49things that Philip spoke, hearing and
37:51seeing the miracles which he did. So,
37:53the thing that caused the people to give
37:55heed was because they heard and they saw
37:57the miracles that Philip that Philip did
38:00in the name of Jesus.
38:01And when they see miracles, they know
38:03that's God.
38:05And they know whatever you've got to say
38:06is not just your opinion.
38:08>> Yeah.
38:08>> If If you don't If God's not confirming
38:10what you're saying,
38:11the people that are hearing what you're
38:12saying are thinking usually things like
38:15this. "Well, that's his opinion."
38:17>> Yeah.
38:18>> But when God says, "I agree with him."
38:21by doing a miracle,
38:22all of a sudden they go, "Okay, what I
38:24I'm ready to listen what you got to
38:25say."
38:26>> Amen. Which is what Jesus said even to
38:29Pharisees and Sadducees. He said, "If
38:31you don't believe me for the words that
38:32I speak, believe me for the works that I
38:34do." Because he said, "If I bear witness
38:37of myself, that's one person." He said,
38:39"Even your law says by the testimony of
38:41two or three witnesses, something is
38:43established."
38:44>> Yes.
38:44>> And he said, "But I wear bit I bear
38:45witness of myself, but also the Father
38:48bears witness of me." In other words,
38:50the Father testifies
38:52of me.
38:52>> saying.
38:52>> Yeah, what I'm saying that I am the Son
38:54of God, that I am the Messiah, that I am
38:56the Christ. The Father himself was even
38:58testifying, which is just lining up with
39:00what you're saying. Miracles, signs,
39:03wonders, those things are God
39:05testifying. What? That the message
39:07you're bringing
39:08>> Yeah, he agrees.
39:09>> of the kingdom of God, the good news of
39:11Jesus Christ, he's confirming
39:14>> He's confirming it.
39:14>> He's confirming that very thing.
39:16>> Absolutely. It's so It's so vital.
39:18Otherwise, people think we're just
39:19sharing our opinion.
39:21And they can take it or leave it.
39:22>> With that being said, these are huge
39:24keys to being effective in the harvest
39:27fields.
39:28>> Absolutely.
39:28>> Um what would you say in
39:31to a believer? How would you encourage
39:34someone that to get out there and get in
39:37the harvest fields?
39:37>> Can I talk about my book a little bit?
39:39>> Yeah, yeah.
39:40>> I wrote a book
39:41a few years ago called You Can Do the
39:43Works of Jesus,
39:45Moving from Theory to Reality.
39:47And in this book, I share a lot of
39:49testimonies.
39:50Because I think people can really learn
39:52from testimonies.
39:53And when I share these testimonies,
39:55especially about people getting healed,
39:58I I don't just talk about what happened.
40:00I talk about what was going on in my
40:01mind.
40:03Because I can I'll think a lot of people
40:05will relate to the feelings of
40:07intimidation
40:08and reluctance. The key to it is do it
40:12anyway.
40:14Say it anyway. You're going to feel like
40:16you're going to you're going to feel
40:16like you're going to pass out sometimes
40:18from fear.
40:20How do I know that? I've done it. I felt
40:22that way many times. But you got to just
40:24be willing to step over that chicken
40:25line and do it anyway. Say it anyway.
40:27>> That temptation, one, the enemy is
40:30trying to work against us.
40:31>> Oh, yeah, he's fighting.
40:31>> But then we got the flesh, the selfish
40:33carnal nature. Keep your mind on things
40:36of the spirit, not things of the flesh.
40:37That's that's trying to fight against
40:39and that nervousness and the temptations
40:41and things like that. And I I often tell
40:43people on the the college tour
40:45uh as we're going out and equipping
40:46people on college campuses to share
40:48their faith, look at those things, the
40:50nervousness, the fear,
40:53uh the anxiety, the what ifs, and all
40:56the what if I don't know what to say,
40:58what if it gets awkward, all those
40:59things. Look at those as temptations
41:01from the enemy. It's not
41:03>> Exactly.
41:03>> who you are. It's not oh, well, I'm just
41:06squeamish or I'm just uh an introvert
41:09and not an extrovert. And we we try to
41:11claim all those temptations. The devil
41:13wants us to get that nervousness and the
41:14fear to claim that as this is who I am
41:17and I can't do this. And now our focus
41:20is on us instead of on him and what he
41:24said to do and our trust is on our
41:26ability rather than the Holy Spirit's
41:28ability. But don't give in to those
41:30temptations. Rather, don't obey the
41:33devil. You're slave to whom you obey.
41:34Don't obey the tempter, but rather obey
41:37Jesus and the Holy Spirit is here to
41:39help us make it beyond the chicken line,
41:42what you're talking about. Make it
41:43beyond that all that that that fear that
41:46tries to you and tries to
41:47control you. And then beyond that, the
41:50fruits and the feelings that come after
41:53you've obeyed. You said you did the
41:55happy dance earlier. So so there's these
41:59these feelings or these fleshly
42:01temptations before you obey Christ. And
42:05then it doesn't stay that way
42:06afterwards. Then it all changes and then
42:09you've got to do it.
42:10>> think. It changes your paradigm of of
42:12everything.
42:13When I saw a few people get healed just
42:15in a few days,
42:16I was addicted. I mean, really addicted.
42:19I had to see it all the I had to do it
42:20every day.
42:22And I I'd look for reasons.
42:23>> [laughter]
42:23>> To Like the other day we other night we
42:25went to a
42:27restaurant and the girl that was our
42:29hostess, you know, she greeted us at the
42:31door. She took us to our table. She had
42:33a cast on her arm.
42:34I said, "What happened to your arm?" She
42:36said, "I broke my wrist in a car
42:37accident."
42:38I said, "What can you not do?" And she
42:40said, "Well," she took the good arm and
42:42she showed So, "Well, I can't do this. I
42:44can't move it like this."
42:45I said, "Would you like to be healed?"
42:47And she looked at me funny and she goes,
42:48"Yeah, why?" I said, "I got good news
42:50for you. The kingdom of heaven has come
42:52to this restaurant." I said, "If you let
42:53me put my hand on your wrist, Jesus will
42:55completely heal it right now and you
42:57won't have any more pain."
42:59She said, "Okay." So, she
43:01I said
43:02So, she still had the she had like a
43:04brace.
43:05So, I just said, "In the name of the
43:06Lord Jesus Christ, be healed."
43:08Thank you, Jesus, for healing this
43:09precious woman's
43:11wrist. I said, "Now, check it out." So,
43:13I said, "Take the thing the
43:14the It was like a
43:16not a regular cast where it's, you know,
43:18but it was like a brace.
43:20So, she
43:21undid the Velcro and she goes,
43:24She's shocked. [laughter]
43:26I said, "Is it healed?" And I said, "Is
43:28there any pain at all?" She said, "No."
43:30I said, "Try to pick something up." So,
43:31I said, "Do what normally would hurt."
43:33And she said, "It's it's gone. It's
43:34gone. It's completely" So, she was very
43:36excited and and she let me do a video of
43:39her. I posted it on YouTube.
43:41>> Praise God.
43:41>> You got to be willing to fail, but
43:44here's the here's the great news. I
43:45failed for 25 years, more times than I
43:48succeeded.
43:50And the the great news is you don't have
43:53to fail.
43:55If you're watching right now, you don't
43:56have to fail for 25 years before you
43:57learn how to do it. You can learn from
43:59somebody that already failed for 25
44:01years. [laughter]
44:02You can get this book and you can read
44:04this book. This is what I learned after
44:06failing for 25 years and finally
44:08learning how to do it the right way and
44:10seeing consistent results and I put it
44:13in a it's a short book. It's a 2-hour
44:15read. It's about 100 pages. The best
44:17thing I tell people is when you read it
44:19put it into practice immediately. Don't
44:21wait.
44:21>> can people get it?
44:22>> For people who want to You can get this
44:23book on Amazon. amazon.com. It's real
44:26easy. You can do the works of Jesus.
44:28Moving from theory to reality.
44:30>> And this author, his name Joel Crumpton.
44:33>> Yeah, Joel Crumpton. Yes, me. Joel
44:34Crumpton.
44:35>> For people who speak Spanish and read in
44:38Spanish
44:39>> Yeah, I have a I have a Spanish version
44:41which is much larger.
44:44But it is it's uh it's the same book.
44:46It's just in Spanish and it's uh
44:49it's also available on uh amazon.com.
44:53>> So people they can learn even what God
44:55has taught you yes through your book.
44:57But I also saw recently uh I just
44:59watched a video. I actually watched it
45:01uh in our staff meeting and showed some
45:03of our team. Uh but it was a video of a
45:07man you were standing outside almost
45:09look like businesses out between like a
45:11van and a car and it was a man who had
45:14hearing problems. He may have been
45:15completely deaf.
45:16>> Yeah, he was.
45:17>> Um and you
45:18>> He was He was pretty He was close to
45:19completely deaf without his hearing
45:21aids. Yeah, he couldn't hear anything.
45:22>> Yeah.
45:22>> without his hearing aids.
45:23>> And you you prayed for him and you could
45:25see it on the guy's face. Um he was
45:28amazed. He didn't know really what to
45:30say. He even said, you know, I don't
45:31even know what to say. You know, praise
45:33God this and that. He was shocked. Came
45:34up and gave you a hug. So even the
45:36encouragement that uh people could
45:38receive from your book, they can also
45:40see it in real life uh through
45:43recordings and through videos that
45:45you're posting
45:45>> Yeah, on YouTube.
45:46>> even on YouTube. How can people find you
45:49on YouTube and also your website?
45:51>> they can type in my name Joel Crumpton
45:54uh on the YouTube search window and I
45:56think it's that Joel guy one is my
45:59thing. And I encourage you to do that
46:01because there's a lot of videos of uh
46:04people getting healed. There's teachings
46:06on it.
46:06>> And then for people who want to stay
46:08connected or even
46:09partner with the ministry, you have a
46:11website. What's your website name?
46:12>> Yeah, the website is just
46:14joelcrumptonministries.org.
46:17>> Okay, joelcrumptonministries.org.
46:19Praise God. Yeah. Could you pray for the
46:21people who are watching and who are
46:23listening today?
46:24>> Sure. Now, I I would like to talk to a
46:26couple of different classes of people.
46:28One is the people that are watching
46:29right now and you're away from God.
46:32You used to be on fire for Jesus, but
46:33now you're backslid and you've been
46:35interested in following
46:37my brother's ministry because he's got
46:39an awesome ministry.
46:41And you'd like watching his videos, but
46:44you're not right with God. You still
46:45haven't really surrendered. You haven't
46:47returned to your first love. Jesus is
46:49calling you to return to your first
46:51love. The first thing to do is not just
46:53start reading your Bible, just start
46:54praying, just start going to church. The
46:56first thing to do is deal with your
46:58heart and return to your first love. So,
47:00let me pray Let me Let me just lead you
47:02in a prayer of of repentance and
47:03returning to your first love. Just lift
47:06your hands, close your eyes, and say
47:07this with me. Say, "Heavenly Father,
47:10forgive me.
47:13I confess
47:15that I have left my first love.
47:19I have gone back, Lord,
47:22to living for myself,
47:25but I want to come home.
47:31And right now,
47:33I surrender all to you, Jesus.
47:37Wash me, Jesus.
47:40Cleanse me.
47:42Make me brand new, Lord.
47:46Restore me, Lord Jesus.
47:49And I will follow you
47:52for the rest of my life.
47:55Thank you, Jesus.
47:58In your precious name.
48:01In Jesus name.
48:03Amen. Now, there's some of you watching
48:05right now that you need healing in your
48:06body.
48:07I pray for this young man, this young
48:09woman, this this person, whoever it is
48:11that needs healing.
48:13Thank you that your word is true.
48:15Pain, get out in the name of the Lord
48:17Jesus Christ.
48:19Thank you, Jesus, that you took their
48:21infirmities. Thank you that you carried
48:23their pain.
48:24Thank you, Lord, that with your wounds
48:26they were healed. Be healed now in the
48:28name of the Lord Jesus Christ.
48:31Amen. So be it. Thank you, Lord. Amen.
48:34>> Amen. Praise God. Yeah, yeah. We thank
48:36you, Lord, for even the miracles and the
48:38testimonies that are going to come
48:40forth. Share these testimonies with
48:41people. Uh it can build their faith and
48:44encourage them to receive from God the
48:46same way that you just did as well.
48:48Well, thank you, Joel. I've been
48:50encouraged. I know everyone else has.
48:52Thanks so much for coming on.
48:53>> Hey, I've been encouraged. Thank you for
48:54having me.
48:55>> Amen.
48:56I pray that God has blessed you through
48:57this podcast. If you want to help it
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