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2026 INTERNATIONAL CONFERENCE — Transcript

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  79. 16:45>> Good morning, distinguished guests. It
  80. 16:47is my great honor and pleasure to extend
  81. 16:50a very warm welcome to all of you to the
  82. 16:522026 international conference future
  83. 16:55climate finance in the era of green
  84. 16:58transition. I am Mong Hun from the
  85. 17:01financial supervisory service and I will
  86. 17:03be the MC for today's conference.
  87. 17:11Before we begin, I would like to briefly
  88. 17:13go over today's program. In part one,
  89. 17:16leading experts from major economies
  90. 17:19will speak about their country's
  91. 17:21policies and market developments with
  92. 17:23regard to transition finance and
  93. 17:25sustainable finance. In in part two,
  94. 17:28global financial firms will present
  95. 17:30their strategies to address climate risk
  96. 17:33and the financial supervisory service of
  97. 17:35Korea will discuss the current status
  98. 17:38and future plans for climate stress
  99. 17:40testing. Each part will feature four
  100. 17:43presentations followed by a panel
  101. 17:45discussion with the speakers. Throughout
  102. 17:48the conference, you can access real-time
  103. 17:51translation on your mobile devices by
  104. 17:53scanning the QR code at the entrance.
  105. 17:56The transi translation will be displayed
  106. 17:58on the screen on the right hand side of
  107. 18:00the stage as well. For our VIP guest,
  108. 18:04the transition the translation is also
  109. 18:06available on the tablets provided.
  110. 18:09And now to officially mark the opening
  111. 18:11of this conference, we will invite Mr.
  112. 18:14Ianzin, Governor of the Financial
  113. 18:16Supervisory Service to the stage. Please
  114. 18:19welcome him with a big round of
  115. 18:20applause.
  116. 18:34[music]
  117. 18:41You're
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  119. 19:24Philip,
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  121. 20:32system.
  122. 20:36Global system
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  130. 24:16Thank you, Governor.
  131. 24:20Next, President Yhangsuk of Uimma
  132. 24:23Women's University, the co-host of
  133. 24:26today's conference, will grace the stage
  134. 24:27for her welcome remarks. Let us welcome
  135. 24:30her with a warm round of applause.
  136. 24:33[music] Conference
  137. 24:54feature climate finance in the era of
  138. 24:57green transition.
  139. 25:08conference
  140. 25:13conference.
  141. 25:52Fore!
  142. 26:11Fore! Fore!
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  150. 28:32>> Thank you, President.
  151. 28:36Ladies and gentlemen, we are honored to
  152. 28:38have distinguished guests who have taken
  153. 28:40time to join us in celebrating this
  154. 28:43conference. First, I would like to
  155. 28:45introduce an honorable guest who has
  156. 28:47kindly shared her congratulations with
  157. 28:50us in video messages. Let us welcome
  158. 28:53Prime Minister Hanongu.
  159. 28:55Fore!
  160. 29:16Foreign! Foreign!
  161. 30:10Fore
  162. 30:33speech.
  163. 30:43We thank the prime minister for her
  164. 30:45heartfelt message. Moving on, we are
  165. 30:48honored to have distinguished guests
  166. 30:49with us today who have taken time out of
  167. 30:52their busy schedules to deliver their
  168. 30:54congratulatory remarks. First, we have
  169. 30:56Mr. Yudong Su, chair of the National
  170. 30:59Policy Committee of the National
  171. 31:01Assembly. Let us welcome him to the
  172. 31:03stage with a big round of applause.
  173. 31:24There.
  174. 31:31[snorts]
  175. 31:43Compass.
  176. 31:54for
  177. 32:15Philips.
  178. 32:36for
  179. 33:03speech.
  180. 33:14forchech.
  181. 33:44Fore!
  182. 33:47Foreign! Foreign!
  183. 33:57forchech.
  184. 34:37Fore! Foreign! Foreign!
  185. 34:48Fore!
  186. 35:07Foreign! Foreign!
  187. 35:49Thank you very much.
  188. 35:53The next congratulatory remarks will be
  189. 35:55delivered by the honorable Mijiima
  190. 35:58Kuichi, ambassador of Japan to Korea.
  191. 36:01Please welcome him with a big round of
  192. 36:03applause.
  193. 36:15[music]
  194. 36:32Um, first I would like to thank Governor
  195. 36:35Lee Chanzing and President of the EA
  196. 36:38Women's University, Dr. Lee Hansuk for
  197. 36:43inviting me to 2026 international
  198. 36:46conference today which brings together
  199. 36:49so many key figures from the financial
  200. 36:53sector.
  201. 36:54Japan and Korea are important neighbors
  202. 36:58and partners who must work together to
  203. 37:02address various challenges in the
  204. 37:05international community. The theme of
  205. 37:08today's conference,
  206. 37:10the financing
  207. 37:12in green tradition is definitely one of
  208. 37:15them.
  209. 37:17Over these decades, cooperation and
  210. 37:20exchanges between Japan and Korea have
  211. 37:24steadily grown in all areas and recent
  212. 37:28developments are spec especially
  213. 37:31remarkable
  214. 37:33on the economic front. More than 3,000
  215. 37:37Japanese companies are currently
  216. 37:40operating in Korea.
  217. 37:42Some of these, including financial
  218. 37:44institutions, were established here soon
  219. 37:48after the normalization of diplomatic
  220. 37:50relations.
  221. 37:52People-to-people exchanges between Japan
  222. 37:54and Korea continue to thrive. Last year,
  223. 37:59the number of visitors between our two
  224. 38:02countries exceeded 13 million,
  225. 38:07surpassing the previous record of 12
  226. 38:10million the year before.
  227. 38:13In the economic sphere as well, business
  228. 38:16ties continues to expand. Japan remained
  229. 38:20the second invest largest investor in
  230. 38:23Korea last year making significant
  231. 38:27investment in the fields such as green
  232. 38:30field projects that Korea highly values
  233. 38:33as well as manufacturing industries that
  234. 38:37enhances Korea's competitiveness and
  235. 38:40strengthen the Japan Korea supply chain.
  236. 38:45As you are all aware, the current
  237. 38:47international environment surrounding
  238. 38:50Japan and Korea is extremely
  239. 38:52challenging.
  240. 38:54In these circumstances, the cooperation
  241. 38:56between Japan and Korea is more
  242. 38:59important than ever.
  243. 39:02Since the inauguration of President Lee
  244. 39:04Jimon last June, we have held six
  245. 39:08face-to-face summit meetings and talks.
  246. 39:12In May this year, Prime Minister Takichi
  247. 39:15received a warm welcome in Andong,
  248. 39:19the hometown President Lee, where the
  249. 39:22two leaders held frank and constructive
  250. 39:26discussions on the direction of
  251. 39:28cooperation in various fields between
  252. 39:31Japan and Korea.
  253. 39:34They shared a recognition of the
  254. 39:36strategic importance of Japan Korea
  255. 39:39relations and concurred to maintain and
  256. 39:44strengthen the positive atmosphere of
  257. 39:47the Japan Korea relations.
  258. 39:50This round of shuttle diplomacy served
  259. 39:53as an opportunity to further strengthen
  260. 39:56trust between the two leaders.
  261. 39:59As for cooperation between our financial
  262. 40:02authorities,
  263. 40:04the ninth regular Japan Korea financial
  264. 40:07shuttle meeting was jointly held by the
  265. 40:10Korean Financial Services Commission,
  266. 40:13the Korea Financial Supervisory Services
  267. 40:16and the Japan Financial Services Agency
  268. 40:20in Busousan. Last December, the heads of
  269. 40:23the three authorities confirm with each
  270. 40:27other the overall direction of key
  271. 40:29policy agenda items and high priority
  272. 40:33policy tasks that would deserve further
  273. 40:36cooperation among the three authorities.
  274. 40:40Thanks to such commitment, timely and
  275. 40:42close communications continues between
  276. 40:45our financial authorities. Thank you,
  277. 40:48the governor.
  278. 40:50In terms of sustainable finance as well,
  279. 40:55the three authorities signed a revision
  280. 40:58of the memorandum of cooperation
  281. 41:01concerning assistance and mutual
  282. 41:03cooperation in the area of financial
  283. 41:05supervision in 2023
  284. 41:08to expand the scope of supervisory
  285. 41:11cooperation to cover this area. As
  286. 41:15illustrated above, I believe it is vital
  287. 41:18for both countries to share experiences
  288. 41:22and learn from each other as we address
  289. 41:25common challenges.
  290. 41:28In closing, let me mention that to
  291. 41:30further solidify this positive momentum
  292. 41:34and advance Japan Korea relations in all
  293. 41:38areas including politics, economy,
  294. 41:42finance, people-to-people exchanges
  295. 41:46and the area of green uh financing. The
  296. 41:52support of every one of you gathered
  297. 41:54here today is indispensable.
  298. 41:58I sincerely hope for your continued
  299. 42:00support as well. I hope the discussions
  300. 42:03to be held today will contribute to
  301. 42:06further development of our cooperation
  302. 42:08and wish you all good health. Thank you
  303. 42:11very much.
  304. 42:19>> [music]
  305. 42:24>> Thank you, Mr. Ambassador.
  306. 42:27Now, last but not least, let us welcome
  307. 42:30the Honorable Colin Krooks, British
  308. 42:32Ambassador to Korea, to the stage with a
  309. 42:34warm round of applause.
  310. 42:41Forejerchee.
  311. 43:11foreign.
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  322. 48:18Thank you, [music] Mr. Ambassador.
  323. 48:20Once again, we sincerely thank the
  324. 48:22honorable guests for their kind words of
  325. 48:24congratulations.
  326. 48:26Ladies and gentlemen, this brings us to
  327. 48:28the end of the opening session for the
  328. 48:302026 International Conference. We would
  329. 48:33like to ask for your kind understanding
  330. 48:35as the VIP guests will now be making
  331. 48:38their way out. We will continue with the
  332. 48:40conference shortly. We kindly ask for
  333. 48:43your patience.
  334. 48:51[music]
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  336. 49:24[music]
  337. 49:28>> Heat. Heat.
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  340. 50:06>> Heat. Heat.
  341. 50:22>> [music]
  342. 50:59>> Welcome back ladies and gentlemen. It is
  343. 51:01now time to begin the first part of
  344. 51:03today's conference. Part one will be
  345. 51:05moderated by Professor Hansoc from Jon
  346. 51:08University with insightful presentations
  347. 51:11by Deputy Chief Sustainable Finance
  348. 51:14Officer Tomunano from Japan's Financial
  349. 51:17Services Agency, head of sustainable
  350. 51:20banking development Ronald Yang from the
  351. 51:23Hong Kong Monetary Authority, Director
  352. 51:26Camille Blackburn from the UK Financial
  353. 51:28Conduct Authority, and Group General
  354. 51:31Manager Hal Gam from the Australia and
  355. 51:34Newal. banking group. The presentations
  356. 51:37will be followed by a panel discussion
  357. 51:40to facilitate understanding for all
  358. 51:42participants. Real-time translation will
  359. 51:44be provided. Now, without further ado,
  360. 51:47let us welcome our moderator, Professor
  361. 51:49Hansuk, and the speakers to the stage
  362. 51:52with a big round of applause.
  363. 53:05So for this part the first speaker will
  364. 53:08be Mr. Tomumi Yano, deputy chief
  365. 53:10sustainable finance officer at Japan's
  366. 53:13financial services agency. is going to
  367. 53:16deliver a presentation about Japan's
  368. 53:19transition finance policy and market
  369. 53:21development.
  370. 53:33[clears throat]
  371. 53:35>> Good morning everyone. Um my name is is
  372. 53:38that Tommo Humiano from the JFSA and
  373. 53:42served as a deputy chief sustainable
  374. 53:44finance officer and thank you for
  375. 53:47inviting us JFSA today. I'm honored to
  376. 53:51the present Japan's policy framework and
  377. 53:54recent developments in transionial
  378. 53:56finance a key component in our journey
  379. 53:59to other carbon neutrality. [snorts]
  380. 54:02Sorry one please. [clears throat]
  381. 54:10Japan has the consistently to pursue the
  382. 54:13concept of the green transformation
  383. 54:15since the 2022 aiming to the achieve the
  384. 54:19three goals simultaneously ensuring a
  385. 54:21stable energy supply promoting economic
  386. 54:24growth and achieving a decarbonation
  387. 54:27all while maintaining this persistence
  388. 54:30even amid the recent global development.
  389. 54:33To realize around the 150 trillion yen,
  390. 54:37$1.1 trillion dollars in GX investments
  391. 54:40over the next decades, Japan established
  392. 54:43a regulatory and support framework that
  393. 54:46calls the growth oriented carbon pricing
  394. 54:48throughout the GX promotion act and the
  395. 54:51GX strategy in 2023.
  396. 54:54We have also taken concrete step such as
  397. 54:57formulating the sector specific
  398. 55:00investment strategies. the issuing the
  399. 55:02climate transion bonds and the launching
  400. 55:05the GX acceleration agency.
  401. 55:12One key finance method that supporting
  402. 55:14the GX investments is the transition
  403. 55:17finance for industry that emits the
  404. 55:20large amount of the greenhouse gases due
  405. 55:23to their characteristics achieving the
  406. 55:25full decarbonation in one leap is
  407. 55:28unrealistics.
  408. 55:30Therefore, Japan has worked to the
  409. 55:32created environment that enabled the
  410. 55:35this industry to the secure funings for
  411. 55:38the measure such as energy efficiency
  412. 55:40and the fuel switching. [snorts]
  413. 55:46This slide show that Japan's overall
  414. 55:48framework for the promoting the
  415. 55:50transition finance. In 2021, we is we
  416. 55:55issue the basic guideline on climate
  417. 55:57transition finance for marrying
  418. 55:59fundraisers.
  419. 56:01Since then we have developed the sector
  420. 56:03specific technology road map follow-up
  421. 56:05guidance for the financial institution
  422. 56:08and investors and provided the support
  423. 56:11for the project project formulation
  424. 56:13throughout the model projects and
  425. 56:15subsidies all under the cross
  426. 56:18collaboration between the government and
  427. 56:20private sectors. The guidelines are
  428. 56:23regularly updated to the reflect the
  429. 56:26changes in the international standards
  430. 56:28and market development including the
  431. 56:30guidance issued by the organizations
  432. 56:33such as Ekuma. [snorts]
  433. 56:38Internationally our [clears throat]
  434. 56:39effort the focus on the Asian which
  435. 56:42account for the about half of the global
  436. 56:45the GG emissions and will play a crucial
  437. 56:48role in the global decarbonation
  438. 56:51to promote the transfer of finance in
  439. 56:53the regions. The ministry of the economy
  440. 56:55trend and indust economy trade and
  441. 56:58industry in Japan expert working group
  442. 57:01that published the interimm report in
  443. 57:04July 2025. The report recognizes Asian
  444. 57:08unique circumstances including the
  445. 57:11global energy demands, the manu
  446. 57:14manufacturing based economies and
  447. 57:16financing structures differ from those
  448. 57:19in developed markets. To mobilize the
  449. 57:22massive investments needed for the
  450. 57:24decarbonation, the reports propose the
  451. 57:27two layered approach. the labor trans
  452. 57:30finance based on the existing the
  453. 57:32international principle and the broaden
  454. 57:35category of the transion finance that
  455. 57:37support activities that contribute to
  456. 57:40the national climate goals. Looking
  457. 57:42ahead the fostering the shared
  458. 57:45understanding of transion finance beyond
  459. 57:47the labor product will be the key role
  460. 57:50key to the sca scaling scaling
  461. 57:52investment and accelerating the
  462. 57:54decarbonation across Asia.
  463. 57:58>> [snorts]
  464. 58:00>> and move on to the our sustainability
  465. 58:03disclosure framework. um regarding the
  466. 58:06timeline for applying applying it um and
  467. 58:10under the you know SSBJ framework based
  468. 58:13on the ISSB standards. The so far the
  469. 58:16JFSA is considering as a basic road map.
  470. 58:20The company with a market capitalization
  471. 58:23of the three trillion yen or more fiscal
  472. 58:26year ending March 2027.
  473. 58:29The company with the between the one to
  474. 58:33the three trillion yen fiscal year
  475. 58:35ending March 2028. The company with a
  476. 58:39five 500 billion to the 1 trillion yen
  477. 58:42fiscal year ending March 2029. I like to
  478. 58:46stress the key factor of the
  479. 58:48sustainability disclosure standard in
  480. 58:50the context of the promoting financial
  481. 58:52finance. Once this disclosure
  482. 58:54requirement take effect, the company
  483. 58:57subject to the standards will need to
  484. 58:59disclose their transition plan if they
  485. 59:02have one. This is expected to accelerate
  486. 59:05the development of the transion plan
  487. 59:08among the prime market research
  488. 59:10companies.
  489. 59:11For financial institutions, when
  490. 59:14formulating their own transition
  491. 59:15strategies, it is essential to assess
  492. 59:18the client transition and the fiscal
  493. 59:21risk and consider their transition plan.
  494. 59:24Therefore, a progress in the corporate
  495. 59:26transition planning will also drive the
  496. 59:28finance institutions efforts. [snorts]
  497. 59:33[clears throat]
  498. 59:36We have also been working to the
  499. 59:38strengthen the market infrastructure for
  500. 59:40transition finance. The effective the
  501. 59:42functioning of the mark market based
  502. 59:45mechanism and the price signal provided
  503. 59:47strong incentive for the both the
  504. 59:50financial institutions and the corporate
  505. 59:52to decarbonize and served as a important
  506. 59:55foundation for the sustainable
  507. 59:57transition. So as a as a result of these
  508. 1:00:00efforts we have seen the steady progress
  509. 1:00:03in the Japan capital market the use of
  510. 1:00:06the the transition labor loan and bond
  511. 1:00:09has expanded and cumulative transition
  512. 1:00:11finance issuance by Japanese private
  513. 1:00:13sector entities exceed the JPY 3
  514. 1:00:17trillion 3.7 trillion as of the end of
  515. 1:00:21the July 2026.
  516. 1:00:23So the Japan is widely recognized as a
  517. 1:00:26you know global leader in transition
  518. 1:00:28finance the ranking among the largest
  519. 1:00:30markets in terms of the both issuance
  520. 1:00:33volume and the number of the issues. At
  521. 1:00:36the same time the carbon credit markets
  522. 1:00:38that which underpin the broader
  523. 1:00:40transition finance ecosystem remain at a
  524. 1:00:42relatively early stage of developments.
  525. 1:00:45In 2023, the Tokyo exchange, Tokyo Stock
  526. 1:00:49Exchange launched carbon credit market
  527. 1:00:52for tra for the trading the government
  528. 1:00:54certified J credits. While the annual
  529. 1:00:57trading volume remain the modest
  530. 1:01:00compared with those in the Europe, the
  531. 1:01:02United States and China, the market
  532. 1:01:05represents the important step toward the
  533. 1:01:07established domestic carbon pricing
  534. 1:01:09ecosystem.
  535. 1:01:18Looking ahead, the significant growth is
  536. 1:01:20expected in this markets. In April 2026,
  537. 1:01:25Japan launched the GX emission trading
  538. 1:01:28system, the GXES, under which the
  539. 1:01:31company with annual shu the emission
  540. 1:01:34exceeding the 100,000
  541. 1:01:38tons are subjected to the allocation and
  542. 1:01:40the surrender of the emission as a
  543. 1:01:43system development as a system developed
  544. 1:01:46the demand for the trading and the
  545. 1:01:48credit to manage the servers and the
  546. 1:01:51deficit position.
  547. 1:01:52is the expected to increase the further
  548. 1:01:55supporting the growth and the liquidity
  549. 1:01:57of the Japan's carbon market [snorts]
  550. 1:02:01[clears throat]
  551. 1:02:02as the carbon credit trading is expected
  552. 1:02:04to expand with the launch launch of the
  553. 1:02:07GXES ensuring the market integrity and
  554. 1:02:11transparency will become increasing the
  555. 1:02:14importance against this backdrop the
  556. 1:02:16JFSA that convened a working group to
  557. 1:02:19examine the measure to the support the
  558. 1:02:22sound developments of the carbon credit
  559. 1:02:24market. This reports identified by key
  560. 1:02:28the issues including the disclosure, the
  561. 1:02:31governance, the market infrastructure
  562. 1:02:33and risk management with the aim of the
  563. 1:02:36enhancing market credibility and
  564. 1:02:38investor confidence. the subsequent
  565. 1:02:41slides that provided further the detail
  566. 1:02:44on these findings and the recommendation
  567. 1:02:46but I will skip them today um due to the
  568. 1:02:50time constraint.
  569. 1:02:54So as I mentioned earlier the Japanese
  570. 1:02:56government's fundamental commitment to
  571. 1:02:58the decarbonation and the trenchion
  572. 1:03:00finance remain unchanged.
  573. 1:03:03The we continue to the steady steadily
  574. 1:03:06promoted the development of the tanchion
  575. 1:03:08finance that thereby contribute to the
  576. 1:03:10decarbonation in Asia and globally while
  577. 1:03:14supporting the growth of the investment
  578. 1:03:16opportunity needed to the achieve the
  579. 1:03:18transition. Japan remain open to the
  580. 1:03:22working with our countries, institutions
  581. 1:03:24and market participant that share our
  582. 1:03:27interest in the advancing the these
  583. 1:03:29objectives. Throughout the forum such as
  584. 1:03:32at today's seminar, we hope to the
  585. 1:03:35exchange experience and the practical
  586. 1:03:37knowledge, the deep mering and explore
  587. 1:03:40the coming and programmatic approach to
  588. 1:03:43the trans finance that can support the
  589. 1:03:46decarbonation across the different
  590. 1:03:47regions and economies. That concludes my
  591. 1:03:50presentation. Thank you for your
  592. 1:03:51attention.
  593. 1:04:03Now, u Mr. Robert Young, head of
  594. 1:04:06sustainable banking development at the
  595. 1:04:08Hong Kong Monetary Authority, will
  596. 1:04:10deliver a video presentation on policy
  597. 1:04:12initiatives to support Hong Kong's
  598. 1:04:14sustainable finance ecosystem.
  599. 1:04:23Hello, good morning everyone. I'm Ronald
  600. 1:04:26Young, head of sustainable banking
  601. 1:04:28development at the Hong Kong Monetary
  602. 1:04:30Authority.
  603. 1:04:33Special thanks to FSS for having me here
  604. 1:04:37and I'd like to start with an apologies.
  605. 1:04:40So I apologize for not being able to be
  606. 1:04:43there in so to share this with you due
  607. 1:04:47to some last minute business emergency.
  608. 1:04:50I'm hoping that I can make it next year
  609. 1:04:53and I was at the uh 2024 version of this
  610. 1:04:56conference and I had very good
  611. 1:04:58experience. So hopefully next year will
  612. 1:05:01be even better and I'm going to be there
  613. 1:05:03to to be with you and interact more
  614. 1:05:06closely with you.
  615. 1:05:09So for those of you who are not very
  616. 1:05:11familiar with the HMA, the Hong Kong
  617. 1:05:13Monetary Authority, I would like to
  618. 1:05:16start with explaining what HGMA does.
  619. 1:05:20HMA is at the same time a policy maker
  620. 1:05:24and a regulator for the banking sector,
  621. 1:05:26but at the same time is also a market
  622. 1:05:29developer, an ecosystem builder,
  623. 1:05:32capacity builder and an investor.
  624. 1:05:36So in terms of being a policy maker and
  625. 1:05:39regulator, we regulate the banking
  626. 1:05:42sector. So we formulate uh policies such
  627. 1:05:45as capital requirements for banks and
  628. 1:05:47then we supervise the banks, make sure
  629. 1:05:49they are operating on a safe and sound
  630. 1:05:52basis.
  631. 1:05:53And as a market developer, we help
  632. 1:05:56develop uh the bond market for Hong Kong
  633. 1:06:00as well as the use of offshore remn. So
  634. 1:06:03these are just a number of things we do.
  635. 1:06:05And then uh in terms of being an
  636. 1:06:07ecosystem creator, we are very uh much
  637. 1:06:11appreciative of the value that fintech
  638. 1:06:14would bring and the risk that fintech
  639. 1:06:17would at the same time bring. So we
  640. 1:06:20actually uh are working a lot on
  641. 1:06:22creating an ecosystem for fintech but
  642. 1:06:24the ecosystem has to be healthy and we
  643. 1:06:27are doing a lot of things to make sure
  644. 1:06:29of that. And then uh in terms of
  645. 1:06:31capacity building uh we are working with
  646. 1:06:34a lot of training providers to help
  647. 1:06:37build capacity for not only people at
  648. 1:06:39HMA but also people in the financial
  649. 1:06:43sector to acquire skills and knowledge
  650. 1:06:46on a variety of things including
  651. 1:06:48sustainable finance. And then uh also we
  652. 1:06:52invest the Hong Kong people's money. We
  653. 1:06:54manage the reserve for Hong Kong. So we
  654. 1:06:57have an exchange fund where we invest in
  655. 1:07:00fixed income equity investments as well
  656. 1:07:02as like private capital.
  657. 1:07:06My role as HMA
  658. 1:07:08I is uh I'm the head of sustainable
  659. 1:07:11banking development. So it's about
  660. 1:07:13sustainable finance and banking and in
  661. 1:07:16what I do uh it encompasses uh all these
  662. 1:07:20roles for HMA. So for example uh
  663. 1:07:24I'm responsible for uh formulating
  664. 1:07:26policy to uh facilitate the management
  665. 1:07:29of climate risk and I'm also responsible
  666. 1:07:32for scale up sustainable capital flow
  667. 1:07:34developing uh enabling tools to do that
  668. 1:07:38and then I'm also responsible for
  669. 1:07:41promoting green fintech and at the same
  670. 1:07:44time I'm working closely with our
  671. 1:07:46exchange funds colleagues and work with
  672. 1:07:48them to support them on their
  673. 1:07:50sustainable investing. efforts.
  674. 1:07:53So um today I'll quickly go through what
  675. 1:07:56HMA does in terms of sustainable finance
  676. 1:07:59and banking and then uh we can actually
  677. 1:08:02have a more interactive discussions
  678. 1:08:04during the Q&A and moderator section.
  679. 1:08:11Okay. So slide two
  680. 1:08:16back in 2024 the end of the year we have
  681. 1:08:20uh created and published what is what we
  682. 1:08:23call an HMA sustainable finance action
  683. 1:08:26agenda. So in the agenda we set out
  684. 1:08:30eight goals
  685. 1:08:32spanning banking investing financing and
  686. 1:08:37inclusiveness.
  687. 1:08:38So let me highlight a few of these
  688. 1:08:40items. So as for banking, we set out an
  689. 1:08:44aspirational goal for the banking sector
  690. 1:08:46to achieve net zero in their own
  691. 1:08:49emissions in their own operations by
  692. 1:08:522030 and their finance emissions by
  693. 1:08:552050.
  694. 1:08:56And at the same time, we would like to
  695. 1:08:58enhance the transparency of the banking
  696. 1:09:01system. So Hong Kong is implementing an
  697. 1:09:03ISSB road map and we are responsible for
  698. 1:09:06the banking sector implementation.
  699. 1:09:09And as for financing, Hong Kong has been
  700. 1:09:13playing a role as the regional
  701. 1:09:15sustainable finance hub. And then we
  702. 1:09:17would like to further develop that role
  703. 1:09:21for Hong Kong to uh to be the go-to
  704. 1:09:24sustainable financing platform of the
  705. 1:09:27region and beyond.
  706. 1:09:29And then uh in terms of like uh being a
  707. 1:09:32sustainable finance platform, we not
  708. 1:09:34only want to grow the volume but at the
  709. 1:09:36same time we want healthy development
  710. 1:09:39and we also want to catalyze innovation
  711. 1:09:41in sustainable finance. So uh this not
  712. 1:09:45only includes people uh developing new
  713. 1:09:47financial products for their clients to
  714. 1:09:50use but at the same time uh it would
  715. 1:09:52include like enhancing a fintech
  716. 1:09:54ecosystem so people can do sustainable
  717. 1:09:57finance in a more transparent and more
  718. 1:09:59efficient way.
  719. 1:10:03Next slide.
  720. 1:10:07Uh at HMA uh we don't stop at the agenda
  721. 1:10:11setting phrase. So the agenda include uh
  722. 1:10:14uh eight goals but then uh for each of
  723. 1:10:16these goals we have been implementing
  724. 1:10:19policies to fulfill those. So uh there
  725. 1:10:22are many goals and then each goals are
  726. 1:10:24quite uh there are many initiatives and
  727. 1:10:26each initiatives are quite detailed. So
  728. 1:10:29I won't have time to go into everything
  729. 1:10:31but let me highlight a few key things.
  730. 1:10:34So um for example uh in terms of setting
  731. 1:10:37standard and facilitating readiness uh
  732. 1:10:41we are developing the Hong Kong
  733. 1:10:42taxonomy. So we are developing uh
  734. 1:10:45taxonomy with the purpose of scaling up
  735. 1:10:48sustainable finance capital flow and by
  736. 1:10:51providing uh clear and transparent
  737. 1:10:54definitions for people to make uh
  738. 1:10:56informed decisions.
  739. 1:10:58So um phase one of the tonami was
  740. 1:11:01published back in 2024 and phase 2 A we
  741. 1:11:06published in in January 2026 and we are
  742. 1:11:09progressing on phase 2B and beyond. So
  743. 1:11:12and we'll publish it uh shortly over the
  744. 1:11:15next uh two weeks or so next week or so
  745. 1:11:18in fact. Yeah. And then um the taxonomy
  746. 1:11:21currently have six sectors and 25
  747. 1:11:24economic activities. And as for
  748. 1:11:26criteria, it includes green and
  749. 1:11:30transition. And as for climate change
  750. 1:11:33objective, we have climate change
  751. 1:11:36mitigation and climate change
  752. 1:11:38adaptation.
  753. 1:11:40So um as we speak, uh we are finalizing
  754. 1:11:43the prototype of phase 2B. So phase 2B
  755. 1:11:46undergone significant expansion on both
  756. 1:11:49the adaptation taxonomy and the
  757. 1:11:51mitigation taxonomy.
  758. 1:11:54And besides taxonomy uh we have always
  759. 1:11:57been working on uh transition planning
  760. 1:11:59for banks. So uh at least for the past
  761. 1:12:02couple of years. So uh a few years ago
  762. 1:12:05we issue a set of high level principles
  763. 1:12:08to assist banks in terms of maintaining
  764. 1:12:10safety and soundless in the real economy
  765. 1:12:13transition. So we issue a set of
  766. 1:12:17guidelines and then we did a survey uh
  767. 1:12:19with the banks and then we issue uh some
  768. 1:12:22high level uh best practice or good
  769. 1:12:24practices from what we have seen from
  770. 1:12:27the survey and then what we are working
  771. 1:12:29on in is the guidelines. So in the
  772. 1:12:32guidelines uh we have gone through uh
  773. 1:12:36two rounds of consultation. solicit
  774. 1:12:38feedback uh from the industry and then
  775. 1:12:41uh we are actually in the process of
  776. 1:12:43finalizing the guidelines which will be
  777. 1:12:45published uh within uh this month
  778. 1:12:49and then uh in terms of sustainability
  779. 1:12:51disclosure so I've briefly mentioned uh
  780. 1:12:54Hong Kong has an ISSB road map and then
  781. 1:12:57we are responsible for the banking
  782. 1:12:58sector implementation so um Hong Kong
  783. 1:13:02has a target to fully adopt to ISSB by
  784. 1:13:05no later than 2028 A so we are actually
  785. 1:13:09uh actively formulating uh the policy
  786. 1:13:11requirements. So we expect to uh come to
  787. 1:13:14the market for consultation uh by the
  788. 1:13:17end of this year or early next year.
  789. 1:13:20[snorts] And then uh before we come up
  790. 1:13:22with the requirements actually we spend
  791. 1:13:25a bulk of uh earlier part of this year
  792. 1:13:28to uh conduct a survey with banks and
  793. 1:13:30analyze the current sustainability
  794. 1:13:33disclosure landscape of the banks. And
  795. 1:13:36then uh as a result of the studies we
  796. 1:13:38were able to understand the pain points
  797. 1:13:40and the key challenges for banks to
  798. 1:13:42implement this kind of standards. So uh
  799. 1:13:45in our policy requirements we'll take
  800. 1:13:47that into account.
  801. 1:13:50And then uh moving down to uh
  802. 1:13:53maintaining climate resilience. So uh
  803. 1:13:55Hong Kong actually has issue a guidance
  804. 1:13:59GS1 on climate risk management back in
  805. 1:14:022021. So these uh guidance is in active
  806. 1:14:06uh implementation and then we have
  807. 1:14:08conduct uh a number of uh thematic
  808. 1:14:11examinations on selected aspects on
  809. 1:14:14blanks climates climate risk management
  810. 1:14:16before and then uh we'll continue to um
  811. 1:14:20implement this module and then from time
  812. 1:14:22to time we will uh have discussions with
  813. 1:14:25bank on how best to uh improve the
  814. 1:14:27climate risk management and then uh also
  815. 1:14:31we have implement two rounds of climate
  816. 1:14:33climate risk stress test and then uh
  817. 1:14:35thanks to the bank's active
  818. 1:14:37participation uh it was very successful
  819. 1:14:39and then uh the outcome of the of the
  820. 1:14:43stress tests uh have told us that the
  821. 1:14:46Hong Kong banking sector is resilient to
  822. 1:14:49uh severe climate related shocks under
  823. 1:14:52various scenarios.
  824. 1:14:55Moving on to the next slide. Um on the
  825. 1:14:58side of market development, uh we have a
  826. 1:15:01green and sustainable finance grant
  827. 1:15:03scheme. So uh this scheme is to
  828. 1:15:06subsidize partially the transaction cost
  829. 1:15:09for raising sustainable debt in Hong
  830. 1:15:11Kong. So um since the launch of the
  831. 1:15:15scheme back in 2021, we have subsidized
  832. 1:15:19more than 710
  833. 1:15:21green and sustainable finance debt
  834. 1:15:23instruments issued in Hong Kong with a
  835. 1:15:26total like underlying issuance size of
  836. 1:15:28over 200 billion equivalent as of July
  837. 1:15:322026.
  838. 1:15:34And then um in addition to incentivizing
  839. 1:15:38the market to issue more instruments uh
  840. 1:15:42we also like uh do it um set out an
  841. 1:15:45example and then uh we help run the Hong
  842. 1:15:49Kong government green and sustainable
  843. 1:15:51bond program and the bond program has
  844. 1:15:55successfully issue US dollar equivalent
  845. 1:15:5833 billion worth of green bonds in
  846. 1:16:01international retail and tokenized
  847. 1:16:03format.
  848. 1:16:05So this actually set up a demonstrative
  849. 1:16:07effect for the market to follow. And uh
  850. 1:16:11in terms of sector development, you
  851. 1:16:12know, I mentioned uh green fintech uh a
  852. 1:16:15number of time. So we actually organized
  853. 1:16:18a global green fintech competitions last
  854. 1:16:20year uh to promote the use of technology
  855. 1:16:23and encourage innovations. So we were
  856. 1:16:26able to attract uh more than 140 entries
  857. 1:16:29to the uh competitions from 26
  858. 1:16:32jurisdictions
  859. 1:16:34and the participants uh spread out
  860. 1:16:37across the region. So uh with Europe as
  861. 1:16:40the largest share of participation but
  862. 1:16:43then like Asia uh is a close and then uh
  863. 1:16:46we have a lot of candidates from North
  864. 1:16:48America and a number of them from
  865. 1:16:50Australia and Africa as well. And then
  866. 1:16:54um so it's a truly global competition
  867. 1:16:57and then we were able to bring cutting
  868. 1:16:59edge solutions to Hong Kong to showcase
  869. 1:17:01to potential investors and users and for
  870. 1:17:04them to actually um understand where are
  871. 1:17:08the potentials and hopefully to
  872. 1:17:10incentivize them to use the the
  873. 1:17:12solutions.
  874. 1:17:14And next slide. Um I appreciate I'm
  875. 1:17:18running out of time. So maybe I'll just
  876. 1:17:20highlight uh data solutions. So um you
  877. 1:17:24know Hong Kong we have developed a
  878. 1:17:26physical risk assessment tools uh for
  879. 1:17:28the banking sector to use. So the
  880. 1:17:31banking sector told us like one of the
  881. 1:17:33key challenges for managing physical
  882. 1:17:36climate risk is the lack of uh data
  883. 1:17:38solutions.
  884. 1:17:40So we have developed a platform for them
  885. 1:17:43to assess the impact of physical risk on
  886. 1:17:45residential and commercial buildings in
  887. 1:17:47Hong Kong under different climate
  888. 1:17:49scenarios. And so far we have uh
  889. 1:17:52analyzed uh the banking sector have
  890. 1:17:54analyzed more than 1.9 million uh assets
  891. 1:17:58as of August 2026.
  892. 1:18:02So I appreciate I'm running out of time.
  893. 1:18:04So, uh, if you have any questions, so
  894. 1:18:06hopefully we can have a a more fruitful,
  895. 1:18:09uh, exchange during the Q&A section.
  896. 1:18:11Thank you.
  897. 1:18:14>> Thank you very much.
  898. 1:18:18Next, Director Camille Blackburn from
  899. 1:18:20the UK Financial Conduct Authority will
  900. 1:18:23discuss the outcomes of the UK's
  901. 1:18:25transition finance pilot program. Let us
  902. 1:18:29welcome her with a big round of
  903. 1:18:30applause.
  904. 1:18:36Thank you everyone for having me here
  905. 1:18:37this morning. It's a great pleasure to
  906. 1:18:39be here. Um, as we all know in this room
  907. 1:18:42because we're interested in this topic,
  908. 1:18:45the starting point for transition
  909. 1:18:48finance is to recognize a simple reality
  910. 1:18:51that getting to or even close to net
  911. 1:18:54zero is not just about financing green
  912. 1:18:57projects and activities.
  913. 1:19:00Assets that are currently high emitting
  914. 1:19:02also need to be financed and financed in
  915. 1:19:05a way that supports their
  916. 1:19:07decarbonization.
  917. 1:19:10Most of the emissions reduction in the
  918. 1:19:12global economy will come from sectors
  919. 1:19:16that are not considered green today.
  920. 1:19:19These include transport, steel, heavy
  921. 1:19:23industry and power generation
  922. 1:19:25in many countries. These are vital
  923. 1:19:28sectors to any economy and the challenge
  924. 1:19:31is not about merely financing them but
  925. 1:19:34financing them in a way that supports
  926. 1:19:36their credible pathway to
  927. 1:19:38decarbonization.
  928. 1:19:41That's why we applaud your new
  929. 1:19:43transition finance guidelines here in
  930. 1:19:46Korea.
  931. 1:19:48Financing the transition is important as
  932. 1:19:50economies around the world seek to
  933. 1:19:52reduce their emissions and prepare for
  934. 1:19:54the structural shifts in how their
  935. 1:19:58economies operate.
  936. 1:20:00The UK is no different, but we need to
  937. 1:20:04act cognizant of the UK's role in global
  938. 1:20:09markets.
  939. 1:20:10A recent financial index report
  940. 1:20:13confirmed that the UK is the second most
  941. 1:20:16international financial services center
  942. 1:20:18market after the US.
  943. 1:20:22The UK is already a hub for sustainable
  944. 1:20:24finance and the government has restated
  945. 1:20:27its intentions to enhance that.
  946. 1:20:32We will support global businesses to
  947. 1:20:34mobilize capital particularly towards
  948. 1:20:38emerging markets and developing
  949. 1:20:40economies.
  950. 1:20:43The FCA supports credible growth and the
  951. 1:20:47evolution of the transition finance
  952. 1:20:49market with the government. Although the
  953. 1:20:53government has chosen not to have a UK
  954. 1:20:56taxonomy,
  955. 1:20:58there are many initiatives supported by
  956. 1:21:01us and the market.
  957. 1:21:05Uh the Transition Finance Council has
  958. 1:21:08worked since February 2025 to leverage
  959. 1:21:10the UK's existing strength
  960. 1:21:13uh to credibly raise transition capital.
  961. 1:21:17And one significant output of the
  962. 1:21:19council was the development of its
  963. 1:21:22transition finance guidelines which are
  964. 1:21:25nowhere near as detailed as yours.
  965. 1:21:29Um it those guidelines identify credible
  966. 1:21:33transition finance opportunities for
  967. 1:21:35companies that are currently not yet
  968. 1:21:37green but can credibly be known as
  969. 1:21:42transition finance initiatives.
  970. 1:21:45We at the FCA have also supported the
  971. 1:21:49development of the market. Last year we
  972. 1:21:52undertook a review of sustainability
  973. 1:21:54linked loan markets including transition
  974. 1:21:58finance instruments.
  975. 1:22:01For this review, we worked with lenders
  976. 1:22:04to identify areas for improvement and
  977. 1:22:06raise standards within the market.
  978. 1:22:10We did a pilot
  979. 1:22:12where we examined end to end the
  980. 1:22:16financing of climate solutions and how
  981. 1:22:19effectively our financial system
  982. 1:22:22supported such projects and companies to
  983. 1:22:25grow and attract investment.
  984. 1:22:28Our work in this area continues.
  985. 1:22:33But capital flows are global, supply
  986. 1:22:36chains are global. The green transition
  987. 1:22:40is global. For that reason,
  988. 1:22:42international alignment is essential.
  989. 1:22:46Transition finance, the financing of
  990. 1:22:49activities and entities that are not yet
  991. 1:22:51green, but on a credible path, can be
  992. 1:22:54challenging and left open to
  993. 1:22:56greenwashing concerns.
  994. 1:22:58The Korean Financial Services
  995. 1:23:00Commission's publication of your
  996. 1:23:02transition finance guidelines is a very
  997. 1:23:05helpful addition to the ecosystem.
  998. 1:23:08Having guard rails where financing
  999. 1:23:11entities or activities is important to
  1000. 1:23:14ensuring credibility.
  1001. 1:23:17We see parallel in Korea's holistic
  1002. 1:23:20approach to transition finance with that
  1003. 1:23:23in the UK where we have guidelines
  1004. 1:23:26supporting transition loans as well as
  1005. 1:23:29guidelines for entity level transition
  1006. 1:23:31finance.
  1007. 1:23:34We will continue to observe the
  1008. 1:23:36developments and implementation of this
  1009. 1:23:38approach in Korea with keen interest
  1010. 1:23:41not only as regulators of the capital
  1011. 1:23:44market but also as regulators of buyside
  1012. 1:23:49investors.
  1013. 1:23:51Asian economies are very appealing to
  1014. 1:23:54investors looking to finance the
  1015. 1:23:56transition to net zero.
  1016. 1:23:59Asia remains highly dependent on fossil
  1017. 1:24:02fuels with many countries having fossil
  1018. 1:24:04fuels that are more than 80% of their
  1019. 1:24:07energy mix. The investable opportunity
  1020. 1:24:11into the transition of Asian economies
  1021. 1:24:14is very attractive for investors in the
  1022. 1:24:17UK market given the large transition
  1023. 1:24:21potential of this region.
  1024. 1:24:24The UK market is fortunate to host
  1025. 1:24:27investment offices of the largest number
  1026. 1:24:30of global pension funds of any financial
  1027. 1:24:33center. The Nordics, the Europeans,
  1028. 1:24:36Asian, African, Canadians, Australian,
  1029. 1:24:40all looking for investment opportunities
  1030. 1:24:43in this area.
  1031. 1:24:46The FCA is keen to explore how to
  1032. 1:24:49enhance interoperability between the UK
  1033. 1:24:52and Korean market participants as
  1034. 1:24:54alignment is critical to getting flows
  1035. 1:24:57of global capital allocated optimally to
  1036. 1:25:01transition.
  1037. 1:25:04As these global frameworks start being
  1038. 1:25:06embedded, it is vital that conversations
  1039. 1:25:09between jurisdictions take place to
  1040. 1:25:11ensure greater alignment between
  1041. 1:25:14approaches.
  1042. 1:25:16The success of transition is dependent
  1043. 1:25:19on international collaboration and on
  1044. 1:25:22mutual learning. This is why continued
  1045. 1:25:25dialogue between the UK, Korea, and our
  1046. 1:25:28other international partners on the
  1047. 1:25:30panel today is going to be important,
  1048. 1:25:34particularly as we move into
  1049. 1:25:35implementing these frameworks in the
  1050. 1:25:38real economy. Thank you.
  1051. 1:25:48Last but not least, group general
  1052. 1:25:50manager Hal Gunke from the Australia and
  1053. 1:25:52New Zealand Banking Group will present
  1054. 1:25:54the role of sustainable finance in
  1055. 1:25:56Australia's lowcarbon transition. Let us
  1056. 1:25:59give him a warm round of applause.
  1057. 1:26:05>> Yeah, good morning everyone. Uh
  1058. 1:26:07absolutely fantastic to be here. I've
  1059. 1:26:09been in soul many many times and I
  1060. 1:26:11always enjoy coming back seeing a lot of
  1061. 1:26:13familiar but also new faces. As the MC
  1062. 1:26:16kindly said, I'm Helga. I work for ANZ.
  1063. 1:26:19For those that are not so familiar, ANZ
  1064. 1:26:21is an Australia headquartered bank
  1065. 1:26:23operating across Asia and the Pacific
  1066. 1:26:25including here uh in Korea and very very
  1067. 1:26:28very nice to be back indeed.
  1068. 1:26:31If we go to the first slide, I thought I
  1069. 1:26:34start with a positive message
  1070. 1:26:38and the positive message is that the
  1071. 1:26:40transition is actually advancing.
  1072. 1:26:44I speak to a lot of people around the
  1073. 1:26:45world and I always hear Helga the world
  1074. 1:26:49has changed.
  1075. 1:26:52And I think what these people are trying
  1076. 1:26:53to tell me is that yes, we live in
  1077. 1:26:56troubled times, challenging context,
  1078. 1:26:59geopolitics, conflicts, economic
  1079. 1:27:02competitiveness, energy security.
  1080. 1:27:06So sustainability is deprioritized. It's
  1081. 1:27:08not happening anymore. I hear this
  1082. 1:27:11everywhere.
  1083. 1:27:12The world has changed.
  1084. 1:27:16The world has changed ever since I was
  1085. 1:27:18born. And I was really really lucky to
  1086. 1:27:20look at data that actually demonstrates
  1087. 1:27:22if we could kindly go to the
  1088. 1:27:26first slide.
  1089. 1:27:30Not yet ready for the positive message,
  1090. 1:27:32but in one second.
  1091. 1:27:36Can we? Okay. Anyway, I I paraphrase it.
  1092. 1:27:42I'm a big fan of data. 10 years ago, for
  1093. 1:27:46every dollar the world has spent on
  1094. 1:27:48fossil fuels, we spent 85 cents on clean
  1095. 1:27:53technologies.
  1096. 1:27:55Last year, for every dollar the world
  1097. 1:27:57spent on fossil fuels,
  1098. 1:28:00obviously it's me
  1099. 1:28:03s the solutions can be so simple.
  1100. 1:28:07Last year, for every dollar the world
  1101. 1:28:10spent on fossil fuels, we spent $2 on
  1102. 1:28:13clean technologies. There's a structural
  1103. 1:28:16shift in capital.
  1104. 1:28:20On the right hand side, you see, and
  1105. 1:28:22we're all familiar with that, the strong
  1106. 1:28:25growth of renewables in the power
  1107. 1:28:28markets. Again, very often I hear, oh,
  1108. 1:28:31renewables are growing, but they're just
  1109. 1:28:33satisfying the increase in energy
  1110. 1:28:35demand. That's about it. They're not
  1111. 1:28:37replacing fossil fuels. Not correct.
  1112. 1:28:40The growth rate in clean technologies is
  1113. 1:28:43greater than the growth rate of end
  1114. 1:28:45demand for energy services.
  1115. 1:28:48And if we do this year after year after
  1116. 1:28:50year after year,
  1117. 1:28:52mathematical compounding, fossil fuels
  1118. 1:28:55will be squeezed out of the system. Not
  1119. 1:28:57by 2050. It will take longer, but it's
  1120. 1:29:00going to it's going to happen. Now,
  1121. 1:29:02admittedly, the transition is not
  1122. 1:29:04linear. It's not happening everywhere in
  1123. 1:29:06every country in every sector. The
  1124. 1:29:09availability of commercially viable
  1125. 1:29:11technologies is not the same in all the
  1126. 1:29:12sectors. Very conscious about it that it
  1127. 1:29:15will remain nonlinear. Differences and
  1128. 1:29:18markets persist but it is actually
  1129. 1:29:20happening.
  1130. 1:29:24Australia is an interesting country in
  1131. 1:29:26this transition because we cover all
  1132. 1:29:28facets of the transition.
  1133. 1:29:31Global leader in rooftop solar. If you
  1134. 1:29:34fly to Sydney and the plane is about to
  1135. 1:29:37land, you can see solar panels
  1136. 1:29:40everywhere on rooftops.
  1137. 1:29:43The last 12 months
  1138. 1:29:46skyrocketing growth in batteries
  1139. 1:29:49in private households. So in Australia
  1140. 1:29:52the transition is happening via
  1141. 1:29:54households in private residences.
  1142. 1:29:58At the same time, one of the largest LG
  1143. 1:30:01exporters, iron, ore, lithium, a lot of
  1144. 1:30:05critical minerals.
  1145. 1:30:07And as Camille just said, and I think
  1146. 1:30:09also Ambassador Krooks, we cannot
  1147. 1:30:11transition despite these sectors, but
  1148. 1:30:13only with these sectors. We need to
  1149. 1:30:15embrace them and help them on their
  1150. 1:30:17journey.
  1151. 1:30:20So, we talked a lot about transition
  1152. 1:30:22finance, and that is indeed a critical
  1153. 1:30:24point. The question for a bank is not
  1154. 1:30:26anymore is this a green activity.
  1155. 1:30:32The portion of our economy that is
  1156. 1:30:34actually green is unbelievably small.
  1157. 1:30:38Let me give you a number. Europe is
  1158. 1:30:41always considered the global trailblazer
  1159. 1:30:43in sustainability.
  1160. 1:30:46European banks publish what they call a
  1161. 1:30:48green asset ratio.
  1162. 1:30:50In simple terms, what are the green
  1163. 1:30:53assets on my book divided by my total
  1164. 1:30:55book?
  1165. 1:30:57And if I'm not wrong, the percentage is
  1166. 1:30:59roughly 7% at the moment. My point
  1167. 1:31:02being, the vast majority of economic
  1168. 1:31:04activities is not green.
  1169. 1:31:07And we need to finance green. We need to
  1170. 1:31:09do more of it, but we need to actually
  1171. 1:31:12finance all the other parts. Now,
  1172. 1:31:14sustainable finance has played a
  1173. 1:31:16critical role. The Australian market is
  1174. 1:31:18actually quite huge, but the vast
  1175. 1:31:20majority of these sustainable finance is
  1176. 1:31:24channeled towards green assets and
  1177. 1:31:26activities and we're going to change
  1178. 1:31:28this.
  1179. 1:31:30So ultimately, we're here to not grow
  1180. 1:31:34the green portion of the economy. We
  1181. 1:31:37need to green the entire economy. That's
  1182. 1:31:39the key message.
  1183. 1:31:43Now, a lot was talked about finance and
  1184. 1:31:46finance being critical, finance being
  1185. 1:31:48important, and I agree. Without finance,
  1186. 1:31:51we're not going to do this.
  1187. 1:31:55But even as a banker,
  1188. 1:31:57I don't think finance is going to
  1189. 1:31:59single-handedly drive this transition.
  1190. 1:32:01It's not going to happen this way.
  1191. 1:32:04We need systems solutions.
  1192. 1:32:07We need policy makers, regulators from
  1193. 1:32:09both the finance and the real economy
  1194. 1:32:11and the private sector and finance
  1195. 1:32:12sector to come together to accomplish
  1196. 1:32:15this. Finance is just one element of a
  1197. 1:32:18broader system level change that we
  1198. 1:32:20need. Very often capital is actually not
  1199. 1:32:23the constraint.
  1200. 1:32:26I have lived in Asia for almost 20
  1201. 1:32:28years. I've been in countries like
  1202. 1:32:30Indonesia and India so many times in my
  1203. 1:32:33life and people say, "Oh, there is no
  1204. 1:32:34capital.
  1205. 1:32:37There is enough capital to finance
  1206. 1:32:38that." But very often we miss an
  1207. 1:32:41enabling policy and regulatory framework
  1208. 1:32:43not within finance in the real economy
  1209. 1:32:46itself for certainty to persist and and
  1210. 1:32:49money to flow. So the key message is
  1211. 1:32:52everyone needs to chip in. This is not
  1212. 1:32:55going to be financed.
  1213. 1:32:58finance will be a critical partner.
  1214. 1:33:04Another part where global finance has
  1215. 1:33:07not really focused on too much as of
  1216. 1:33:09late, it's a bit the forgotten stepchild
  1217. 1:33:12is climate adaptation and resilience. So
  1218. 1:33:15if you think about it, mitigation
  1219. 1:33:19is a boy is about avoiding the
  1220. 1:33:21unmanageable.
  1221. 1:33:23Adaptation resilience is about managing
  1222. 1:33:26the unavoidable. There are going to be
  1223. 1:33:28implications from climate change and in
  1224. 1:33:31Australia we see this many many things
  1225. 1:33:33are happening not always because of
  1226. 1:33:35climate by the way but we see a lot of
  1227. 1:33:37damages um to physical infrastructure
  1228. 1:33:40and economic activities and the world
  1229. 1:33:42hasn't focused enough on adjusting on
  1230. 1:33:45adapting and becoming more resilient.
  1231. 1:33:48There are two numbers here. They come
  1232. 1:33:49from Munich Re. In 2025, we had 73
  1233. 1:33:52billion in losses from natural
  1234. 1:33:54disasters. But the but the scary number
  1235. 1:33:57is the other one. The vast majority was
  1236. 1:34:00not insured. So for us as a bank, there
  1237. 1:34:02are many channels um towards financial
  1238. 1:34:05risks arising from all of this. One is
  1239. 1:34:08the lack of availability or the lack of
  1240. 1:34:10affordability of insurance. And this is
  1241. 1:34:13already an issue for us today. not in 20
  1242. 1:34:15years, not in 40 years, today. So, we're
  1243. 1:34:17also going to have to channel money into
  1244. 1:34:20adaptation uh and and resilience. For us
  1245. 1:34:23as a bank, what this means, among
  1246. 1:34:25others, is that we need to build
  1247. 1:34:27capabilities and physical risk
  1248. 1:34:28assessments. And we have, for example,
  1249. 1:34:30built a tool that allows us in a very
  1250. 1:34:33granular way to assess physical hazards
  1251. 1:34:36uh for specific land plots across across
  1252. 1:34:39the country. So, these are two areas
  1253. 1:34:42where banks need to do more. transition
  1254. 1:34:44finance, financing stuff that is not yet
  1255. 1:34:47green and climate adaptation and
  1256. 1:34:50resilience. And on transition finance,
  1257. 1:34:54regulators like here in Korea and also
  1258. 1:34:56in other countries help us by creating
  1259. 1:34:59frameworks and taxonomies, but the
  1260. 1:35:01reality is they're never going to cover
  1261. 1:35:03everything.
  1262. 1:35:04So as a bank, we actually also need to
  1263. 1:35:06build capabilities inhouse to assess
  1264. 1:35:09transition activities ourselves.
  1265. 1:35:12The world has not yet come together and
  1266. 1:35:14agreed on what a credible transition
  1267. 1:35:16activity might look like. In certain
  1268. 1:35:18countries yet, yes. In certain other
  1269. 1:35:20countries, no. So, we need to have this
  1270. 1:35:22capability. As a bank, we need to be
  1271. 1:35:25okay that our financed emissions go up
  1272. 1:35:28if we do more transition finance because
  1273. 1:35:30financed emissions these are the
  1274. 1:35:32emissions we are enabling with our
  1275. 1:35:34lending and financing. So we give money
  1276. 1:35:36to a company, company does something
  1277. 1:35:39that something emits something and we
  1278. 1:35:41are enabling that. So our finance
  1279. 1:35:43emissions will go up if we do more
  1280. 1:35:46transition finance and that should be
  1281. 1:35:48okay under the condition that there is a
  1282. 1:35:51credible transition plan behind what we
  1283. 1:35:54actually financing.
  1284. 1:35:58So last message coming back this is
  1285. 1:36:00going to be a team effort. This
  1286. 1:36:02transition is not going to be a sprint.
  1287. 1:36:03It's an ultramarathon.
  1288. 1:36:05But we have to run it bloody fast, but
  1289. 1:36:08it's going to take a long time. It's not
  1290. 1:36:10going to be linear and it's only going
  1291. 1:36:12to happen if everyone chips in. And I
  1292. 1:36:16was very delighted to hear today policy
  1293. 1:36:18makers and regulators talking all about
  1294. 1:36:21this because everyone has a role to
  1295. 1:36:23play. Nobody can do it alone. Thank you.
  1296. 1:36:36Uh thank you very much to all four
  1297. 1:36:39speakers uh for those insightful
  1298. 1:36:41presentation. I am Sakam from uh
  1299. 1:36:45graduate school of environmental finance
  1300. 1:36:48university. I'm very happy to uh to
  1301. 1:36:51moderate the uh discussion sections.
  1302. 1:36:55Uh we have a very limited time for our
  1303. 1:36:58uh discussion. So I will ask one focus
  1304. 1:37:01question to each of you and
  1305. 1:37:06please keep your response to around one
  1306. 1:37:09minute. I'm sorry about the time limit.
  1307. 1:37:12Before turning to the question uh let me
  1308. 1:37:14briefly bring together the main points
  1309. 1:37:17from the four uh presentations.
  1310. 1:37:20Uh Mr. So Yano showed how Japan is
  1311. 1:37:22building a broad GX framework that
  1312. 1:37:25brings together public and private
  1313. 1:37:27investment, transition finance and
  1314. 1:37:29sustainability disclosure and assurance
  1315. 1:37:32and GX ETFs and more credible carbon
  1316. 1:37:35market infrastructures.
  1317. 1:37:37And importantly for Asia, Japan is also
  1318. 1:37:41looking beyond labeled in instrument
  1319. 1:37:45through the inclusive approach to
  1320. 1:37:46transition finance. And second, Mr.
  1321. 1:37:49Young showed how the Hong Kong monetary
  1322. 1:37:51authorities moving from broad commitment
  1323. 1:37:53to implementation through taxonomies and
  1324. 1:37:57tension planning and climate risk
  1325. 1:37:59supervision, market incentives, capacity
  1326. 1:38:01building and and practical data tools.
  1327. 1:38:05And Miss Blackburn remind us that the
  1328. 1:38:08transition finance uh must support
  1329. 1:38:10companies and sectors which are not yet
  1330. 1:38:14green but have a credible
  1331. 1:38:16decarbonization pathway. She also
  1332. 1:38:19emphasized that the international
  1333. 1:38:21alignment is very important because
  1334. 1:38:24capital and supply chain move across
  1335. 1:38:27borders. And finally Mr. Minkl uh
  1336. 1:38:31brought us back to the Lear economies.
  1337. 1:38:33His key point was that the capital is
  1338. 1:38:35not always the main constraint. The grid
  1339. 1:38:39as he mentioned that grid con uh
  1340. 1:38:42connection approval infrastructure and
  1341. 1:38:44policy certainties can be just as
  1342. 1:38:46important in turning investment into
  1343. 1:38:49actual emission deductions. With mind,
  1344. 1:38:52let me begin with Mr. Yano.
  1345. 1:38:55Uh, Japan has proposed a broader and
  1346. 1:38:58more inclusive approach to transition
  1347. 1:39:00finance that reflects Asian economy and
  1348. 1:39:03financial structures. What minimum
  1349. 1:39:06eligibility criteria and monitoring
  1350. 1:39:08arrangement do you think are needed to
  1351. 1:39:12scale up this financing while avoiding
  1352. 1:39:15carbon rocket and greenwashing?
  1353. 1:39:28Thank you. Thank you question. Yeah. And
  1354. 1:39:31actually this is a you know one of the
  1355. 1:39:33questions um we hear we most frequently
  1356. 1:39:37hear from the you know the investors. So
  1357. 1:39:39each time we discuss a transion finance
  1358. 1:39:41with the investors and asking yeah scale
  1359. 1:39:44how we do scale up tion finance while
  1360. 1:39:47avoiding the green washing and carbon
  1361. 1:39:49locking a very difficult question um
  1362. 1:39:52actually the based on my experience and
  1363. 1:39:56perspectives I will talk about it from
  1364. 1:39:59the just three three perspective the the
  1365. 1:40:02first one is you know the finance should
  1366. 1:40:04be the anchor in the the cable
  1367. 1:40:07transition the planning
  1368. 1:40:09align with the you know long-term
  1369. 1:40:11objectives and supported by the you know
  1370. 1:40:13milestones. Um second that these should
  1371. 1:40:17be grounded in the know science based
  1372. 1:40:21and the spec sector specific the pathway
  1373. 1:40:23the recognizing you know each industry
  1374. 1:40:28start from the different points and the
  1375. 1:40:30face the different challenges in context
  1376. 1:40:33of the tanial finance and third is that
  1377. 1:40:36this most important you know um
  1378. 1:40:39accountability and the transparency is
  1379. 1:40:43essential throughout
  1380. 1:40:44you know this disclosure and third party
  1381. 1:40:47opinions and you know the impact
  1382. 1:40:51reporting if if these elements are in
  1383. 1:40:55place know that we will be able to
  1384. 1:40:57reduce the risk of the you know green
  1385. 1:41:00washing and the cabin. Yeah.
  1386. 1:41:09>> Yeah. Thank you. That's a very helpful
  1387. 1:41:11way of balancing inclusiveness uh with
  1388. 1:41:13the market credibility.
  1389. 1:41:15Uh now I
  1390. 1:41:19miss you online.
  1391. 1:41:22So uh let me ask you one question. The
  1392. 1:41:25Hong Kong monetary authorities has
  1393. 1:41:27developed a comprehensive framework
  1394. 1:41:29including taxonomy, transition planning
  1395. 1:41:32and practical data tools. uh in your
  1396. 1:41:34views what is the biggest obstacle to
  1397. 1:41:38expanding transition finance formemes
  1398. 1:41:40and non-listed companies?
  1399. 1:41:44>> Hey uh thank you. So uh first of all
  1400. 1:41:47like apologize for not being able to be
  1401. 1:41:49there. So I hope to join you guys uh
  1402. 1:41:51next year and um your question is
  1403. 1:41:55actually very uh important. So basically
  1404. 1:41:58uh we have been grappling with the same
  1405. 1:42:00situation uh every day in Hong Kong.
  1406. 1:42:03Yeah. So uhmeme are generally not as
  1407. 1:42:06well resources as the um conglomerates
  1408. 1:42:10or or big companies. So um more often
  1409. 1:42:13than notmemes uh for example in Hong
  1410. 1:42:15Kong they won't have a dedicated
  1411. 1:42:18department to do ESG. So very often the
  1412. 1:42:21finance department or the accounting
  1413. 1:42:23department have to do everything. So I
  1414. 1:42:26think um in that case I think one of the
  1415. 1:42:29biggest obstacle is capacity. So um
  1416. 1:42:33theme probably uh lack capacity in most
  1417. 1:42:36cases but then uh we want them uh to to
  1418. 1:42:40resolve this hurdle. I think they can
  1419. 1:42:42acquire capacity
  1420. 1:42:45but they don't need to build it from
  1421. 1:42:46scratch. For example like uh banks in
  1422. 1:42:49Hong Kong they have a lot of knowledge
  1423. 1:42:51in ESG so they can work with their theme
  1424. 1:42:54clients to help them build the capacity.
  1425. 1:42:56Um and I mentioned like the data tools
  1426. 1:42:59in my presentation. So we have uh SME
  1427. 1:43:03non-list company questionnaire to help
  1428. 1:43:05theme during disclosure and then uh we
  1429. 1:43:08also have done um something we call uh
  1430. 1:43:11GH missions uh estimator. Uh this can
  1431. 1:43:15actually help theme to uh estimate their
  1432. 1:43:18GH emissions based on the fuel
  1433. 1:43:20consumptions or electricity
  1434. 1:43:22consumptions. And then in Hong Kong uh
  1435. 1:43:25fintech is a very important topic is
  1436. 1:43:27high on the agenda. So we have been
  1437. 1:43:30promoting the use of green fintech and
  1438. 1:43:32then uh creating a ecosystem for people
  1439. 1:43:36to understand where the cutting edge
  1440. 1:43:38solutions are and then try to utilize it
  1441. 1:43:41to make the ESG process more efficient
  1442. 1:43:44and more transparent. So a and for the
  1443. 1:43:47government and regulator we are also
  1444. 1:43:49very well aware that uh transition is
  1445. 1:43:52very important and um uh and helping um
  1446. 1:43:57people to do transition plan will be
  1447. 1:43:59very helpful. So uh we are working on
  1448. 1:44:02what we call a transition plan pilot to
  1449. 1:44:05set out some examples for good uh
  1450. 1:44:07transition plan so that companies big
  1451. 1:44:10and small they can follow.
  1452. 1:44:14>> Okay. Yeah. Thank you very much for your
  1453. 1:44:16uh insightful uh answers. Uh Miss
  1454. 1:44:19Blackburn, let me bring in the
  1455. 1:44:21international dimension. You highlighted
  1456. 1:44:23the importance of international
  1457. 1:44:25alignment while UK and Asian
  1458. 1:44:28jurisdiction are taking somewhat
  1459. 1:44:30different approaches. In your views,
  1460. 1:44:32what common elements are most important
  1461. 1:44:34for these different framework to work
  1462. 1:44:36together and maintain investor
  1463. 1:44:39competence? Thank you for the question
  1464. 1:44:41and in a minute in a minute um uh there
  1465. 1:44:45are different approaches globally uh but
  1466. 1:44:48uh we will even from this discussion you
  1467. 1:44:51can see that all of us have at the heart
  1468. 1:44:52stronger capital markets greater
  1469. 1:44:55investment pro investor protection and
  1470. 1:44:58sustainable um long-term growth so
  1471. 1:45:02careers guidelines I think uh exemplify
  1472. 1:45:05how there will be convergence
  1473. 1:45:07international convergence about these
  1474. 1:45:08things careers guidelines. You can see
  1475. 1:45:11references to the EU and European
  1476. 1:45:13approaches. You can also see references
  1477. 1:45:16uh to the Japanese approach. And this
  1478. 1:45:19learning and watching and learning from
  1479. 1:45:21each other is only going to get more and
  1480. 1:45:23more important. Uh there are some uh
  1481. 1:45:26important divergences. Voluntary
  1482. 1:45:28mandatory compliant explain you know how
  1483. 1:45:31how strict uh regulators are with these
  1484. 1:45:34sorts of processes. verification
  1485. 1:45:37processes, level of detail necessary to
  1486. 1:45:39support financing, uh the role of carbon
  1487. 1:45:42markets and innovation approaches are
  1488. 1:45:45some of the divergences that we will see
  1489. 1:45:47close over over the next few year. Um we
  1490. 1:45:51have seen an enormous rise in
  1491. 1:45:53international collaboration in the area
  1492. 1:45:55of transition finance over the last few
  1493. 1:45:57years fostered by bodies such as uh the
  1494. 1:46:01international transition plan network
  1495. 1:46:03that we saw referred to earlier and for
  1496. 1:46:05regulators the FFSSB
  1497. 1:46:08and IOSCO and as our ambassador
  1498. 1:46:11mentioned uh earlier that the UK and
  1499. 1:46:14Korea have an enormous opportunity right
  1500. 1:46:17in front of us with the consecutive
  1501. 1:46:19presidents ies of G20 where the UK uh
  1502. 1:46:23takes over presidency next year and then
  1503. 1:46:25Korea follows. So to the extent that we
  1504. 1:46:28can get transition onto that agenda, we
  1505. 1:46:30have an opportunity to carry something
  1506. 1:46:33forward uh over that time frame as well.
  1507. 1:46:36Thanks.
  1508. 1:46:37>> Thank you. Finally, let me turn to the
  1509. 1:46:40Mr. Winkl. You made the important point
  1510. 1:46:43that the capital is not always the main
  1511. 1:46:46constraint as grid connection approval
  1512. 1:46:49and policy certainties also matters. In
  1513. 1:46:52the situations should banks go beyond
  1514. 1:46:55providing finance and take more active
  1515. 1:46:57role in coordinating government industry
  1516. 1:47:00and investors.
  1517. 1:47:03>> Yes. So in in in short yes um we can do
  1518. 1:47:06this and one advantage banks have is we
  1519. 1:47:09have typically a very deep um network of
  1520. 1:47:12relationships across sectors and across
  1521. 1:47:14markets. Let me give you one specific
  1522. 1:47:15example to bring this to life a little
  1523. 1:47:18bit. Uh about a year ago or so um I
  1524. 1:47:21teamed up with the IEA, International
  1525. 1:47:23Energy Agency, um a Paris headquartered
  1526. 1:47:26think tank and uh we went to Jakarta,
  1527. 1:47:28Indonesia and the exam question was how
  1528. 1:47:33do we scale battery energy storage
  1529. 1:47:35systems, one critical part of clean
  1530. 1:47:38technologies in Indonesia at scale. And
  1531. 1:47:42we thought well the only way we can
  1532. 1:47:44address this exam question is getting
  1533. 1:47:46everyone in the room. So, we jointly
  1534. 1:47:49brought the people in that have the
  1535. 1:47:50checkbook, the ministry of finance, um
  1536. 1:47:53regulators from the from the real
  1537. 1:47:55economy, uh PLN, the state-owned
  1538. 1:47:57utility, the entire ecosystem, uh
  1539. 1:48:00private sector ecosystem on on bass
  1540. 1:48:02battery energy storage systems, uh and
  1541. 1:48:05select financial institutions like ADB,
  1542. 1:48:07uh Southern Wealth Funds. And I
  1543. 1:48:10mentioned this example for one reason
  1544. 1:48:11only. That was powerful because we
  1545. 1:48:15identified what are the roadblocks to us
  1546. 1:48:19really scaling battery energy storage
  1547. 1:48:21systems. And that's just one clean
  1548. 1:48:22technology. You could replicate this
  1549. 1:48:25with any other topic as well. Um and it
  1550. 1:48:27was very clear that many of the
  1551. 1:48:30roadblocks are not sitting in the
  1552. 1:48:31finance sector. There was something
  1553. 1:48:33around uh the regulatory framework uh
  1554. 1:48:36the policy setting but having everyone
  1555. 1:48:38in the room listening to each other was
  1556. 1:48:41insanely powerful. So yes, banks can can
  1557. 1:48:44do this uh typically as partners with
  1558. 1:48:46others.
  1559. 1:48:48>> Okay, thank you for all your uh
  1560. 1:48:51insightful answers. We are almost out of
  1561. 1:48:54time. Let me uh close with one common
  1562. 1:48:57message from uh today's discussions. Uh
  1563. 1:49:00transition finance is not simply about
  1564. 1:49:02creating more financial products or
  1565. 1:49:04attaching new label to existing finance.
  1566. 1:49:07I think it's about helping companies and
  1567. 1:49:10sectors make credible change in the LER
  1568. 1:49:12economies that requires although
  1569. 1:49:15flexibilities to reflect different
  1570. 1:49:17national and sectoral circumstances but
  1571. 1:49:20it also requires clear target and
  1572. 1:49:23reliable data effective safeguard and
  1573. 1:49:26close coordination among government
  1574. 1:49:28finance and industries. The four
  1575. 1:49:31presentation have shown us that no
  1576. 1:49:33single policy or financial instrument
  1577. 1:49:36can deliver the transition on its own.
  1578. 1:49:40What matters is how these different
  1579. 1:49:42elements work together to turn capital
  1580. 1:49:44into clear and measurable progress. And
  1581. 1:49:48thank you again for uh thank you again
  1582. 1:49:50to all four speakers for sharing your
  1583. 1:49:53valuable insight. And now I will hand
  1584. 1:49:55the floor back to our MC.
  1585. 1:50:01Ladies and gentlemen, please give a
  1586. 1:50:03round of applause to Professor Han and
  1587. 1:50:05the panelists for guiding us through
  1588. 1:50:07part one.
  1589. 1:50:13[music]
  1590. 1:50:17We will now take a short 10-minut break
  1591. 1:50:20and resume with part two. [music]
  1592. 1:50:22Refreshments and beverages are available
  1593. 1:50:25at the back of this room. So, please
  1594. 1:50:27feel free to help [music] yourself. I
  1595. 1:50:29look forward to welcoming you back
  1596. 1:50:30shortly.
  1597. 2:04:58International Conference will begin
  1598. 2:05:00shortly. [music] We ask you to take your
  1599. 2:05:02seats.
  1600. 2:05:12Heat. Heat.
  1601. 2:05:31[music]
  1602. 2:05:55>> [music]
  1603. 2:05:59>> Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen. We
  1604. 2:06:01will now begin part two of the 2026
  1605. 2:06:04International Conference, Future Climate
  1606. 2:06:06Finance in the Era of Green Transition,
  1607. 2:06:09co-hosted by the Financial Supervisory
  1608. 2:06:11Service of Korea and Ewa Women's
  1609. 2:06:13University. Part two will be moderated
  1610. 2:06:17by professor Amjiong from KQAIST and
  1611. 2:06:20feature presentations by principal
  1612. 2:06:22economist Yuji Yamashita from the Asian
  1613. 2:06:25Development Bank, fellow international
  1614. 2:06:28initiatives Masa Nakamura from Tokyo
  1615. 2:06:31Marine, Director Louise Keem from ING
  1616. 2:06:34Korea and senior manager Kim Hanzhin
  1617. 2:06:37from the financial supervisory service
  1618. 2:06:39and the presentations will be followed
  1619. 2:06:41by a panel discussion. Now, let us
  1620. 2:06:44welcome Professor Um and the speakers to
  1621. 2:06:46the stage with a big round of applause.
  1622. 2:06:52[music]
  1623. 2:07:07Okay. Uh let us begin our second session
  1624. 2:07:10of today's event. Uh good morning uh
  1625. 2:07:13everyone. Uh welcome to our session. Uh
  1626. 2:07:16before we begin, I'd like to briefly
  1627. 2:07:18acknowledge it the the devastating
  1628. 2:07:20disaster occurred in Nepal over the last
  1629. 2:07:24uh over the past week. Uh and then that
  1630. 2:07:27catastrophic flood allegedly triggered
  1631. 2:07:30by a a glacier uh collapse has caused
  1632. 2:07:34enormous loss of lives and severe damage
  1633. 2:07:37to communities and critical
  1634. 2:07:39infrastructures.
  1635. 2:07:41The tragedy is a a stark reminder that
  1636. 2:07:44physical climate risk is no longer a
  1637. 2:07:47distant abstract concern. It is already
  1638. 2:07:51affecting lives uh infrastructure,
  1639. 2:07:54businesses and financial institutions
  1640. 2:07:56and ultimately uh the stability and
  1641. 2:07:58resilience of of our economies.
  1642. 2:08:02Then the qu key question is not simply
  1643. 2:08:05how we measure these risks but how we
  1644. 2:08:08prepare for them and finance resilience
  1645. 2:08:11uh and transfer and manage those risks
  1646. 2:08:14and incorporate those physical climate
  1647. 2:08:16risk uh into financial decision making.
  1648. 2:08:20So that's exactly what we are going to
  1649. 2:08:22explore uh in today's session.
  1650. 2:08:26Uh so here we have four uh in uh
  1651. 2:08:29distinguished speakers uh uh uh Yugji
  1652. 2:08:33Yamashita from ADB uh and then he will
  1653. 2:08:36be talking about regional risk sharing
  1654. 2:08:38mechanisms and Mas Mazaki Nagamura from
  1655. 2:08:43Tokyo Marine uh he'll be talking about
  1656. 2:08:46insurance and societal resilience and
  1657. 2:08:49Luis Kim uh uh from she'll be talking
  1658. 2:08:53about banks risk management adaptation
  1659. 2:08:56uh adaptation finance and lastly Hanjing
  1660. 2:09:00Kim from FSS will be talking about risk
  1661. 2:09:03assessment and financial sector
  1662. 2:09:05regulation issues. So uh so we will be
  1663. 2:09:08having uh you know presentation from
  1664. 2:09:10each of them uh and then you are uh
  1665. 2:09:13given with uh 12 minutes as I announced
  1666. 2:09:18and then preferably maybe it would be
  1667. 2:09:20good better for you to limit your
  1668. 2:09:22presentation within 10 minutes uh that
  1669. 2:09:24would be much much better.
  1670. 2:09:27So and then after having all
  1671. 2:09:29presentations we'll be having uh panel
  1672. 2:09:31discussions. Okay. So with that uh let's
  1673. 2:09:35begin uh first presentation from Yugji
  1674. 2:09:37Mashita from ADB.
  1675. 2:09:46Thank you very much. Uh first of all uh
  1676. 2:09:48I'd like to express my sincere
  1677. 2:09:50appreciation for the great hospitality
  1678. 2:09:53of uh FSS Korea and women's uh
  1679. 2:09:56university. It is my great honor and
  1680. 2:10:00pleasure to be here and being uh one of
  1681. 2:10:02panelists of this great uh event. Okay.
  1682. 2:10:06First uh let me explain to you what I do
  1683. 2:10:11uh at Asian Development Bank. I joined
  1684. 2:10:13ADB around one year ago. My role is
  1685. 2:10:17basically to lead two initiative, two
  1686. 2:10:20regional initiatives of ASEAN plus
  1687. 2:10:23three. Plus three means Korea, Japan and
  1688. 2:10:27China. Okay.
  1689. 2:10:31First initiative is Asian bond market
  1690. 2:10:35initiative. The origin of Asian bond
  1691. 2:10:37market initiative uh uh goes back to
  1692. 2:10:40early 2000 uh after the uh Asian
  1693. 2:10:44financial crisis in 1997 which I think
  1694. 2:10:47many Korean uh people remembered. We uh
  1695. 2:10:52tried to develop a local currency bond
  1696. 2:10:55markets in Asia in order to prevent
  1697. 2:10:58Asian financial crisis from occurring
  1698. 2:11:00again. That is my first role. The second
  1699. 2:11:03role is recently I took the
  1700. 2:11:06responsibility to lead disaster risk
  1701. 2:11:08financial initiative in ASEN plus three.
  1702. 2:11:12Let me uh start from uh our work about
  1703. 2:11:15sustainability sustainability finance uh
  1704. 2:11:18in Asian bond market initiative.
  1705. 2:11:24Okay. Um we do a lot uh for sustainable
  1706. 2:11:28finance but as ABMI is mainly about how
  1707. 2:11:32to make bond markets in Asia. We do uh
  1708. 2:11:38reach advisory support to make uh bond
  1709. 2:11:42market ecosystem. It includes project
  1710. 2:11:45selection. It includes uh also support
  1711. 2:11:49for green and sustainable uh finance
  1712. 2:11:52framework development. We also support
  1713. 2:11:54external review. We also showcase the
  1714. 2:11:57transaction in international discussion.
  1715. 2:12:00What I want to uh highlight and
  1716. 2:12:02emphasize here is uh we we do not do
  1717. 2:12:07some advisory supports in uh each of
  1718. 2:12:09them in isolation. Our aim is to develop
  1719. 2:12:13uh sustainable finance as a ecosystem in
  1720. 2:12:17Asia. Our focus is uh include how to
  1721. 2:12:21develop local verifiers. We also try to
  1722. 2:12:25support transition finance. As we
  1723. 2:12:27discussed in uh already transition
  1724. 2:12:30finance is especially important in Asian
  1725. 2:12:32countries uh because some countries
  1726. 2:12:35still uh uh their lives and industries
  1727. 2:12:38heavily depend on uh fossil fuels uh
  1728. 2:12:41such as co. You cannot divest tomorrow.
  1729. 2:12:45Also we support regulatory development.
  1730. 2:12:48We also support green taxonomy, capacity
  1731. 2:12:51building and sustainability disclosures
  1732. 2:12:54including uh ESG data.
  1733. 2:13:00Uh not only ADB but also uh local uh
  1734. 2:13:04governments and other organiza
  1735. 2:13:06international organizations do a lot of
  1736. 2:13:09efforts to make uh sustainable finance
  1737. 2:13:11ecosystem in Asia. Thanks to these uh
  1738. 2:13:15long-lasting efforts, uh good news is uh
  1739. 2:13:18our uh sustainable finance uh especially
  1740. 2:13:21sustainability bond markets is the sec
  1741. 2:13:24second largest in the world uh next to
  1742. 2:13:27European Union. I think uh that is uh
  1743. 2:13:30that shows clearly our efforts uh
  1744. 2:13:34bearing a fruit in Asia.
  1745. 2:13:40Now I want to explain about our pilot is
  1746. 2:13:44insurance programs uh to uh establish
  1747. 2:13:46good precedents uh in Asia. For
  1748. 2:13:49instance, we have already uh catalyzed
  1749. 2:13:53uh sustainable uh bond issuances over 5
  1750. 2:13:58billion USD. Also we support uh in total
  1751. 2:14:03we supported more than 15 billion
  1752. 2:14:05issuances of sustainability bonds. Uh we
  1753. 2:14:10fortunately received uh in 12
  1754. 2:14:13international uh awards for sustainable
  1755. 2:14:16uh uh bond transactions. We also
  1756. 2:14:18supported for local verifiers.
  1757. 2:14:23uh what I want to mention is uh again uh
  1758. 2:14:26also is under ABMI we have a dedicated
  1759. 2:14:31uh specific forum called DBMF design um
  1760. 2:14:35digital bond market uh forum.
  1761. 2:14:38Fortunately, this uh forum is chaired by
  1762. 2:14:41professor Hume and our you know ambition
  1763. 2:14:44is to make a using latest technologies
  1764. 2:14:48including blockchain uh we try to make a
  1765. 2:14:51you know carbon uh transaction ecosystem
  1766. 2:14:54in Asia hopefully connecting Korea and
  1767. 2:14:57Japan.
  1768. 2:14:59Now allow me to move on to my next role
  1769. 2:15:03as a leader of ASEAN plus three DRFI
  1770. 2:15:08disaster risk finance initiative. Of
  1771. 2:15:10course sustainability finance and
  1772. 2:15:12disaster risk finance are closely
  1773. 2:15:15related but uh DRFI has its own specific
  1774. 2:15:19focus.
  1775. 2:15:21Okay.
  1776. 2:15:24First uh I want to highlight how serious
  1777. 2:15:28uh disasters are. I think everyone
  1778. 2:15:30already understands uh you know
  1779. 2:15:33frequency and severity of natural
  1780. 2:15:35disasters such as floods, drought,
  1781. 2:15:38uh typhoons are increasing.
  1782. 2:15:41But uh this graph clearly shows the
  1783. 2:15:44reality after 2000. uh if you count
  1784. 2:15:48economic loss of disasters such as
  1785. 2:15:52tropical cyclone it is already over two
  1786. 2:15:56trillion US dollars
  1787. 2:15:58uh climate rel change related disasters
  1788. 2:16:02are not constrained to uh typhoon uh
  1789. 2:16:04cyclones it also includes uh floating uh
  1790. 2:16:09it is al the total amount of losses of
  1791. 2:16:12floss is also close to two
  1792. 2:16:17uh they are climate change related but
  1793. 2:16:21uh we also have earthquakes that have
  1794. 2:16:25have very little to do with uh climate
  1795. 2:16:27change but in countries like uh Japan,
  1796. 2:16:31Philippines, Indonesia they suffer a lot
  1797. 2:16:34uh from earthquakes.
  1798. 2:16:37So that is the uh unpleasant reality.
  1799. 2:16:43So now let me uh explain uh what is the
  1800. 2:16:46basic uh approach of Asian Development
  1801. 2:16:50Bank to cope with these uh disasters.
  1802. 2:16:54Now that is risk layer approach. The
  1803. 2:16:57idea itself is quite uh straightforward.
  1804. 2:17:00You uh uh categorize various disasters
  1805. 2:17:05by two dimensions. One is frequency and
  1806. 2:17:08the other is severity. Typically for
  1807. 2:17:12high frequency well it happens uh many
  1808. 2:17:15times in a year for high frequency uh
  1809. 2:17:18events but with low civility typically
  1810. 2:17:22the best prescription is government
  1811. 2:17:25spare some money to cope with uh these
  1812. 2:17:28disasters. However, uh when it comes to
  1813. 2:17:32disasters with less uh frequency, but if
  1814. 2:17:36it comes uh which causes huge disasters,
  1815. 2:17:41uh government budget alone cannot cope
  1816. 2:17:44with it with that in that case uh it
  1817. 2:17:47makes sense before disaster occurs you
  1818. 2:17:50transfer the risk to the market. That is
  1819. 2:17:53risk transfer approach. That is the
  1820. 2:17:56basic idea of risk layer approach.
  1821. 2:18:01So now uh uh ADB especially my team is
  1822. 2:18:05taking a very uh serious and important
  1823. 2:18:09responsibility. We take up the
  1824. 2:18:11secretariat role of assean plus three
  1825. 2:18:15disaster risk finance initiative. Next
  1826. 2:18:18year uh this year co-chairs uh
  1827. 2:18:20Philippines and Japan. Next year
  1828. 2:18:22co-chairs uh Korea and Singapore. So
  1829. 2:18:25therefore uh we expect strong leadership
  1830. 2:18:29of Korea in that respect as well.
  1831. 2:18:34Okay. Finally uh I want to briefly
  1832. 2:18:37explain uh ADB's activities that is
  1833. 2:18:40catbond catastrophic bonds. Of course,
  1834. 2:18:44ADB does a lot of initiatives about
  1835. 2:18:46disasters, but um uh catastrophic bonds
  1836. 2:18:51uh is one of the most uh interesting uh
  1837. 2:18:56uh you know initiative which lays uh
  1838. 2:18:58attention by uh many uh people and many
  1839. 2:19:03market participants. The idea itself is
  1840. 2:19:06quite simple. uh ADB on behalf of some
  1841. 2:19:10developing countries in this case on
  1842. 2:19:12behalf of uh Kiggiz Republic and
  1843. 2:19:16Tajikistan ADB issues uh a bond uh
  1844. 2:19:20specific feature bond called uh uh
  1845. 2:19:24catastrophic bond. The essence of CAT
  1846. 2:19:27bond is if suppose you issue uh ADB
  1847. 2:19:31issues the bond uh with the amount of
  1848. 2:19:34100. If disaster unfortunately disaster
  1849. 2:19:38occurs in Kygystan or Tajikistan
  1850. 2:19:42the principle of 100 is cut uh to zero
  1851. 2:19:47or 30. It means investors will uh lose a
  1852. 2:19:52lot of money. However, that money is uh
  1853. 2:19:56transferred to vulnerable people and
  1854. 2:19:59vulnerablememes
  1855. 2:20:01who actually suffered a lot from these
  1856. 2:20:04disasters. Uh this is uh this kind of
  1857. 2:20:08idea is uh regarded as one of very
  1858. 2:20:10promising uh uh approach to uh make risk
  1859. 2:20:15transfer uh more feasible. However,
  1860. 2:20:17still there are lots lots of uh uh
  1861. 2:20:20challenges uh including as of now the
  1862. 2:20:24price of this uh cat bond is very
  1863. 2:20:26expensive. So but um maybe in the Q
  1864. 2:20:30session we can discuss uh how how we can
  1865. 2:20:34uh address these challenges. But uh
  1866. 2:20:37again we expect strong leadership of
  1867. 2:20:39Korea next year. So let's uh uh address
  1868. 2:20:43disaster risk together. Let me stop
  1869. 2:20:45here. Thank you very much.
  1870. 2:20:48Thank you so much uh uh Mr. Yamashita.
  1871. 2:20:50Uh thank you for uh touching upon the
  1872. 2:20:52issue of uh regional level uh disaster
  1873. 2:20:55risk management and finance issues. Now
  1874. 2:20:59uh the floor is going to uh Mr. Nagabura
  1875. 2:21:04uh from Tokyo Marine
  1876. 2:21:09Ho.
  1877. 2:21:11I'm
  1878. 2:21:16Thank you very much to FSS for inviting
  1879. 2:21:18me to this very prestigious and very
  1880. 2:21:21relevant uh conference. My name is
  1881. 2:21:23Masaki Nagamura and I'm coming from
  1882. 2:21:26Tokyo Marine which is not an uh not a
  1883. 2:21:31shipping company but it's an insurance
  1884. 2:21:33company based in Tokyo, Japan. I have
  1885. 2:21:36come to learn that many people uh
  1886. 2:21:38confuse Tukarine as a as a shipping
  1887. 2:21:40company. But the the fact is that we
  1888. 2:21:43started as a marine cargo insurer. Uh so
  1889. 2:21:46we're keeping that name. But these days
  1890. 2:21:48we ensure almost everything that that
  1891. 2:21:51has economic economic value. My role at
  1892. 2:21:55Tokimarine is to interact with various
  1893. 2:21:58international initiatives that has to do
  1894. 2:22:00with climate change or disaster risks.
  1895. 2:22:03Most prominently, I used to served at
  1896. 2:22:06the TCFD underneath the FSB as a member
  1897. 2:22:10representing representing Japan.
  1898. 2:22:13In parallel, I have also been involved
  1899. 2:22:15in the Apex Finance Ministers process
  1900. 2:22:17where I serve as Sherpa to promote
  1901. 2:22:20disaster risk financing in the region
  1902. 2:22:23and I work very closely with Yamashita
  1903. 2:22:26and his ADB colleagues.
  1904. 2:22:29And from early this year I have become I
  1905. 2:22:32assumed the role uh as a member of the
  1906. 2:22:35govern govern governing board of the
  1907. 2:22:37integrity council for the voluntary
  1908. 2:22:39carbon market ICBCM in short.
  1909. 2:22:43So um those are the topics that I cover
  1910. 2:22:46uh in my daily u uh role.
  1911. 2:22:52Today I'd like to uh give focus on
  1912. 2:22:54adaptation and resilience. But allow me
  1913. 2:22:57to touch very briefly on transition
  1914. 2:22:59plans because that was the topic that I
  1915. 2:23:02was fortunate enough to discuss two
  1916. 2:23:05years ago at this same conference.
  1917. 2:23:11So as an insurance company um we
  1918. 2:23:16approach somewhat differently from banks
  1919. 2:23:18or uh asset managers on on climate
  1920. 2:23:22change.
  1921. 2:23:24Um since [clears throat] we are an
  1922. 2:23:26insurer, we don't have financial
  1923. 2:23:29ownership over our policy holders. So
  1924. 2:23:33we've been thinking about as a PNC
  1925. 2:23:36insurer, how can we uh how can we be
  1926. 2:23:39effective in
  1927. 2:23:42urging our policyh holders to turn from
  1928. 2:23:46fossilbased operation
  1929. 2:23:48to to to green opportunity uh to green
  1930. 2:23:51um management.
  1931. 2:23:53Now
  1932. 2:23:55simply stop underwriting fossil fuel
  1933. 2:23:58business does not really work. Um
  1934. 2:24:02it's rather important to continue
  1935. 2:24:04working with fossil fuel industries and
  1936. 2:24:07help them uh understand the importance
  1937. 2:24:10of change and do whatever thing we can
  1938. 2:24:13to help um uh accelerate that that
  1939. 2:24:17shift.
  1940. 2:24:19That's how we have come with the idea of
  1941. 2:24:22uh engagement level one, two and three.
  1942. 2:24:27Back in uh 2023, we uh introduced this
  1943. 2:24:30idea
  1944. 2:24:32and uh we declared that we would become
  1945. 2:24:35we would be covering
  1946. 2:24:37200 of the most highly emitting uh
  1947. 2:24:40companies
  1948. 2:24:43and that represents roughly 90% of the
  1949. 2:24:46emissions of of of tokine and nichido
  1950. 2:24:49our Japanese operating arm.
  1951. 2:24:52Now level one starts with identifying
  1952. 2:24:56issues. We we sit down with the c with
  1953. 2:24:58our corporate customer and
  1954. 2:25:02uh identify what is the problem and then
  1955. 2:25:05we on level two we uh
  1956. 2:25:10make proposals based on the findings and
  1957. 2:25:13then le at level three we provide
  1958. 2:25:16insurance solutions.
  1959. 2:25:18So altogether we we're hopeful that with
  1960. 2:25:21this kind of support our policyh holders
  1961. 2:25:24will start making meaningful progress
  1962. 2:25:27towards decarbonization.
  1963. 2:25:30It's not just that we introduced this uh
  1964. 2:25:33engagement uh system. We started to
  1965. 2:25:37monitor the progress by implementing
  1966. 2:25:40Bloomberg NES um data and start tracking
  1967. 2:25:45the progress towards how the discussion
  1968. 2:25:48how our engagement with our customers
  1969. 2:25:50are progressing and the scorecard is is
  1970. 2:25:54shown on the right hand side. Obviously
  1971. 2:25:57you find that energy sectors,
  1972. 2:26:03materials and infrastructures those
  1973. 2:26:06industries are leading the way in terms
  1974. 2:26:10of our our engagement efforts.
  1975. 2:26:15So this is uh where we are at this point
  1976. 2:26:17but we are continuing on this path.
  1977. 2:26:22Now let me move on to the main topic of
  1978. 2:26:25uh of my presentation which is
  1979. 2:26:27adaptation and resilience.
  1980. 2:26:30Now these days it is very difficult to
  1981. 2:26:34find an international forum on on
  1982. 2:26:37finance which does not discuss about
  1983. 2:26:40adaptation and resilience
  1984. 2:26:42and GF is one of them. Um as you may
  1985. 2:26:45know Gance stands for glass globe
  1986. 2:26:47financial alliance for net zero. The
  1987. 2:26:50naming comes from its efforts to pursue
  1988. 2:26:54net zero. But ironically, what they're
  1989. 2:26:57giving focus these days is resilience,
  1990. 2:27:00adaptation and resilience.
  1991. 2:27:03And back in June, they published a
  1992. 2:27:05report entitled investing in resilience
  1993. 2:27:10and I was fortunate to be part of the u
  1994. 2:27:13uh information provider on on this
  1995. 2:27:16report.
  1996. 2:27:18Now what and this is a collection of 20
  1997. 2:27:22plus case studies uh that are uh
  1998. 2:27:26exercised by by exercised by leading
  1999. 2:27:29financial institutions uh around the
  2000. 2:27:31globe
  2001. 2:27:33that includes banks, asset managers and
  2002. 2:27:36insurance companies. But what I like
  2003. 2:27:39about this report is it it goes beyond
  2004. 2:27:42merely showcasing what has been done. It
  2005. 2:27:46gives uh tip it gives tips on what can h
  2006. 2:27:51how the case can be replicated in other
  2007. 2:27:54places and in that way uh it gives a
  2008. 2:27:58scaling opportunity uh for others to
  2009. 2:28:01follow.
  2010. 2:28:04Now at Tokyo Marine as a property and
  2011. 2:28:07casualty insurer
  2012. 2:28:09we are taking this approach we're we we
  2013. 2:28:14consider climate and nature as an
  2014. 2:28:17intertwined topics. There's it's really
  2015. 2:28:21difficult to separate the two. So we
  2016. 2:28:24started to give a combined focus on
  2017. 2:28:27nature and climate because climate
  2018. 2:28:30change does a lot of harm to to nature.
  2019. 2:28:34uh and and also the natural uh
  2020. 2:28:37deterioration of forests and other um uh
  2021. 2:28:40natural habitat can slow the u
  2022. 2:28:46the effort towards uh decarbonization.
  2023. 2:28:49So I think it we we think that it makes
  2024. 2:28:51sense to uh take uh to keep a combined
  2025. 2:28:55approach on climate and nature and
  2026. 2:28:57together we think that it uh it enables
  2027. 2:29:01us to give a more um meaningful uh uh
  2028. 2:29:05contribution towards resilience.
  2029. 2:29:10Now what I would like to stress today is
  2030. 2:29:13that Tokyo Marine is going beyond the
  2031. 2:29:16mere uh insurance uh insurance premium
  2032. 2:29:20underwriting and insurance payout um
  2033. 2:29:23operation.
  2034. 2:29:25Um we have found that um it's it's uh
  2035. 2:29:30it's no no longer sufficient to go by
  2036. 2:29:33the traditional uh traditional
  2037. 2:29:35operation.
  2038. 2:29:37So we're trying we're expanding our
  2039. 2:29:39focus from pre- disaster to uh post-
  2040. 2:29:43disaster
  2041. 2:29:45on on the pre- disaster stage we offer u
  2042. 2:29:48whatever resilience uh supporting um
  2043. 2:29:52services to to our customers
  2044. 2:29:56and on the other hand we also offer u
  2045. 2:29:59whatever service that expedited the
  2046. 2:30:01recovery post disaster. So this is the
  2047. 2:30:04kind of approach that we started taking
  2048. 2:30:07uh over the past several years and we
  2049. 2:30:10are assisted by the newly um
  2050. 2:30:14uh by by a by an entity which new newly
  2051. 2:30:17joined to uh joined the Tokyo group. IDN
  2052. 2:30:21is its name. Um it has a profound
  2053. 2:30:27knowledge and expertise on
  2054. 2:30:29infrastructure investment. they have
  2055. 2:30:32been assisting many uh developing
  2056. 2:30:36economies uh projects
  2057. 2:30:39and um also not not just on the man-made
  2058. 2:30:43uh industrial side but as as well as
  2059. 2:30:46nature side as well. So they have a very
  2060. 2:30:49profound um expertise
  2061. 2:30:52which we rely on and uh we're using that
  2062. 2:30:56uh service capability as a um uh as a
  2063. 2:31:02uh benefit of uh using tokine service.
  2064. 2:31:08Now let me uh share with you two
  2065. 2:31:11examples of how
  2066. 2:31:14the insurance industry can effectively
  2067. 2:31:18um
  2068. 2:31:20be part of the uh resilience um strategy
  2069. 2:31:25on a on a
  2070. 2:31:28uh policym level.
  2071. 2:31:31The first one has to do with uh how to
  2072. 2:31:34facilitate rivering flood risk assess uh
  2073. 2:31:37assessment.
  2074. 2:31:39This is led by the ministry of land
  2075. 2:31:42infrastructure trans transport and and
  2076. 2:31:45tourism MLIT in short of Japan.
  2077. 2:31:49Um
  2078. 2:31:52over the past several years they have
  2079. 2:31:55introduced
  2080. 2:31:58a a philosophy of um working rivering
  2081. 2:32:04flood uh collaboration
  2082. 2:32:07where instead of relying on u
  2083. 2:32:12solidifying the dikes or other other
  2084. 2:32:15types of hardwares they're inviting all
  2085. 2:32:18community members that surround the uh
  2086. 2:32:21the river basin to work together to
  2087. 2:32:24share the same goal of the uh the to
  2088. 2:32:27work on the shared goal of resilience
  2089. 2:32:30and
  2090. 2:32:32uh and work together towards um
  2091. 2:32:35stronger uh resilience.
  2092. 2:32:38Now what the MIT um noticed was
  2093. 2:32:43the corporates are now working on how to
  2094. 2:32:45promote TCFD disclosures.
  2095. 2:32:48So as a company you are expected to
  2096. 2:32:51disclose physical risks on climate
  2097. 2:32:54change but this practice has been uh
  2098. 2:32:58lagged behind. Um
  2099. 2:33:02so so the MLIT tried to stimulate the
  2100. 2:33:05corporate interest in in this aspect. So
  2101. 2:33:08what they did was to put together a
  2102. 2:33:11guide a guide book uh based on which
  2103. 2:33:15even if you have very limited resources
  2104. 2:33:20to work on the companies can
  2105. 2:33:24self-evaluate
  2106. 2:33:26uh their river and flood risk by using
  2107. 2:33:30readily available data
  2108. 2:33:34um which can al which can be used for TC
  2109. 2:33:37safety disclosures.
  2110. 2:33:39I was personally involved in this
  2111. 2:33:41process and
  2112. 2:33:43uh contributed from an insurance uh
  2113. 2:33:46sector perspective.
  2114. 2:33:48Now the same kind of approach uh was
  2115. 2:33:50done uh on on port facilities. Um the
  2116. 2:33:55ministry office is the same the MLIT but
  2117. 2:33:58this one was promoted by the uh the port
  2118. 2:34:01uh department
  2119. 2:34:03and I I think Korea uh is in a similar
  2120. 2:34:06situ situation but our countries rely
  2121. 2:34:10heavily on imported products and seaborn
  2122. 2:34:13[clears throat] traffic is really
  2123. 2:34:15important
  2124. 2:34:16but ports are
  2125. 2:34:19situated in a very uh n natural disaster
  2126. 2:34:23susceptible area. So
  2127. 2:34:27what is uh important is to have a uh
  2128. 2:34:30resilient uh port facilities.
  2129. 2:34:33But the problem with the port facilities
  2130. 2:34:36are that no matter how you strengthen
  2131. 2:34:39your own facility
  2132. 2:34:41such as the oil refinery in this
  2133. 2:34:43picture, if you have a weakly protected
  2134. 2:34:47neighbor neighboring manufacturing
  2135. 2:34:49plant, the flooded water still comes in
  2136. 2:34:52and invade your facility.
  2137. 2:34:55So there has to be um
  2138. 2:35:01collective uh approach and what is
  2139. 2:35:05recommended here is that those who um uh
  2140. 2:35:10consist the same port community will
  2141. 2:35:13work together to develop a shared
  2142. 2:35:17resilience guideline
  2143. 2:35:19and the MLIT would give some tax
  2144. 2:35:23incentives in case uh companies need to
  2145. 2:35:26upgrade their u port facilities.
  2146. 2:35:30Here again MLIT came back uh introduced
  2147. 2:35:35a guideline uh where uh
  2148. 2:35:39corporates which consists of port
  2149. 2:35:41facilities
  2150. 2:35:44uh can self assess their risk level.
  2151. 2:35:48Now collectively this will um if this
  2152. 2:35:52works properly this should attract more
  2153. 2:35:55um interest from investors and financial
  2154. 2:35:57institutions and that's the way we're
  2155. 2:35:59trying to create some positive financial
  2156. 2:36:02flow into those uh uh in the in the
  2157. 2:36:06communities involved. So that's what I
  2158. 2:36:09have uh to to present. Thank you very
  2159. 2:36:11much for listening.
  2160. 2:36:12>> Thank you so much. Thank you so much Mr.
  2161. 2:36:14Namura. uh and thank you so much for
  2162. 2:36:16sharing uh uh your perspective uh
  2163. 2:36:19insurance perspective on the the
  2164. 2:36:21adaptation and resilience uh and also
  2165. 2:36:23thank you for sharing the interesting
  2166. 2:36:25case studies as well. Now uh the the
  2167. 2:36:28floor goes to uh uh Luis Kim M uh Luis
  2168. 2:36:33Kim from ING and then she'll be talking
  2169. 2:36:35about the bank's perspective on risk
  2170. 2:36:39management and adaptation finance.
  2171. 2:36:41>> Okay, let me adjust
  2172. 2:36:45to be adaptable to my height. So, okay.
  2173. 2:36:49And professor, I need to apologize. I
  2174. 2:36:52forgot to bring my watch. So, if I'm
  2175. 2:36:55talking a bit too much, you can maybe
  2176. 2:36:57>> I will let you know. Don't worry.
  2177. 2:36:58[laughter]
  2178. 2:36:58>> Shout my name or do anything. So, I will
  2179. 2:37:01just stop. But yeah. Okay. Still a bit
  2180. 2:37:04high. Okay. Okay. It's a great pleasure
  2181. 2:37:07to join today's international
  2182. 2:37:09conference. And my name is Luis Kim. And
  2183. 2:37:12today I'll be talking mainly about the
  2184. 2:37:15physical climate risk from commercial
  2185. 2:37:17banks perspective.
  2186. 2:37:19So uh we I only have nine and a half
  2187. 2:37:22minutes. So I want to address quite
  2188. 2:37:24quickly but I want to have three step.
  2189. 2:37:27One is how we convert physical climate
  2190. 2:37:29risk to financial risk. So pretty much
  2191. 2:37:32using the financial language so we can
  2192. 2:37:34use and how banks are managing this
  2193. 2:37:37risk. And the last one that maybe most
  2194. 2:37:40important one is how we can consider
  2195. 2:37:42this risk as opportunity as well.
  2196. 2:37:48So as a Korean I really like to define
  2197. 2:37:51something and having clear dictionary as
  2198. 2:37:53well. So even though there was deep
  2199. 2:37:55discussion on transition I just want to
  2200. 2:37:58highlight the difference between
  2201. 2:37:59transition and the physical risk from
  2202. 2:38:02the vocabulary perspective. So
  2203. 2:38:05transition risk you are already familiar
  2204. 2:38:08this is the risk arising because the
  2205. 2:38:10society is trans transitioning to the
  2206. 2:38:12low carbon economy. So anything about
  2207. 2:38:14legal risk, business risk, this is
  2208. 2:38:17something falling into the transition
  2209. 2:38:19risk for physical risk. This is
  2210. 2:38:22something I guess more directly relevant
  2211. 2:38:26to most of people when they are thinking
  2212. 2:38:28about climate because if there is any
  2213. 2:38:30extreme heat, flooding, any kind of
  2214. 2:38:33impact from that specific climate event
  2215. 2:38:37that will be the physical risk. But I
  2216. 2:38:39want to highlight these differences
  2217. 2:38:40because from the banking perspective
  2218. 2:38:43physical risk is highly relating to the
  2219. 2:38:46specific asset and the location unlike
  2220. 2:38:48the transition risk is like more like
  2221. 2:38:50the macro level very broad definition as
  2222. 2:38:53well. So for example if there are two
  2223. 2:38:56company in the same sector pretty much
  2224. 2:38:58similar business models and maybe same
  2225. 2:39:01Iita as of now if they have different
  2226. 2:39:04approaches to physical climate risk on
  2227. 2:39:06resilience side they may have totally
  2228. 2:39:09different cash flow forecast in five to
  2229. 2:39:1210 years.
  2230. 2:39:15So this is relatively old study back in
  2231. 2:39:192020. So our economist actually had some
  2232. 2:39:23kind of analysis on how extreme heat
  2233. 2:39:25actually affect our economy and the GDP
  2234. 2:39:28and inflation as well. So for based on
  2235. 2:39:32this study it's actually affecting 0.3
  2236. 2:39:35to 0.5% and GDP. If you're thinking
  2237. 2:39:38about our GDP growth rate or Korea and
  2238. 2:39:41most of developed country, this is
  2239. 2:39:43pretty much really big number and if you
  2240. 2:39:46thinking about some regions that are
  2241. 2:39:48more highly exposed, it can be going up
  2242. 2:39:50to 1%. And I think if we are analyzing
  2243. 2:39:54more recent kind of cases, it can even
  2244. 2:39:58be going higher than this one as well.
  2245. 2:40:02And this is not just about some kind of
  2246. 2:40:05people working outside like for example
  2247. 2:40:07like construction workers exposed to sun
  2248. 2:40:10every day. This is also affecting our
  2249. 2:40:12supply chain and you you may remember
  2250. 2:40:15that extreme heat can actually melt down
  2251. 2:40:17anything. So that can affect the typical
  2252. 2:40:19power generation or some other transport
  2253. 2:40:23or train anything relating to you. And
  2254. 2:40:27if there is any issue with grid is also
  2255. 2:40:30affecting our electricity and all the
  2256. 2:40:33other AI also will be affected. So no
  2257. 2:40:36one can be escaped from this issues to
  2258. 2:40:39be honest. So this is something and that
  2259. 2:40:42is also triggering a lot of issue with
  2260. 2:40:45policy makers when they are projecting
  2261. 2:40:47the growth and inflation expectation
  2262. 2:40:50because it's extremely hard to estimate
  2263. 2:40:52how climate will happen in next year
  2264. 2:40:55compared to maybe unemployment rate and
  2265. 2:40:58inflation rate as well.
  2266. 2:41:02So from bank's perspective, physical
  2267. 2:41:05climate risk should not be considered as
  2268. 2:41:08a separate bucket of risk. We need to
  2269. 2:41:11kind of put it it's kind of Lego. You
  2270. 2:41:14need to kind of menty
  2271. 2:41:17bucket that banks are already looking at
  2272. 2:41:19it. So for example, if there is anything
  2273. 2:41:24that's affecting the default risk of
  2274. 2:41:27issues or the client that we lend the
  2275. 2:41:30money, it will be the credit risk. If
  2276. 2:41:33this climate risk is affecting specific
  2277. 2:41:35asset that are collateralized by banks,
  2278. 2:41:39it will be the collateral risk. If this
  2279. 2:41:41is affecting some of our people, our
  2280. 2:41:44building, it will be our operational
  2281. 2:41:46risk. So if there is any type of
  2282. 2:41:50industry that we are putting more money
  2283. 2:41:52and that are exposed by this risk it
  2284. 2:41:54will be the concentration risk and it
  2285. 2:41:58can be the market and liquidity risk and
  2286. 2:42:00ultimately this is the strategic risk
  2287. 2:42:02for banks and that's the interesting
  2288. 2:42:04area where where you can actually
  2289. 2:42:07convert this to strategic opportunity as
  2290. 2:42:09well but it's easy to say but maybe it's
  2291. 2:42:11not that easy to actually execute but
  2292. 2:42:13that would be something we need to
  2293. 2:42:15discuss further.
  2294. 2:42:18So this is the slide I really like and
  2295. 2:42:22hard to explain. So I will try to be
  2296. 2:42:25step by step. So this is how banks are
  2297. 2:42:27analyzing the physical risk. So we need
  2298. 2:42:31to actually identify and the map hazard
  2299. 2:42:34and exposure and we need to quantify the
  2300. 2:42:37physical impact from this hazard and we
  2301. 2:42:40need to translate into the financial
  2302. 2:42:42losses. So this is how I'm kind of like
  2303. 2:42:45changing the narrative from science to
  2304. 2:42:48finance and there should be some
  2305. 2:42:50languages that the each party understand
  2306. 2:42:52and put it into our valuation model and
  2307. 2:42:55the risk model as well.
  2308. 2:42:58So there are a lot of jargon like loss
  2309. 2:43:01given default and all the other thing
  2310. 2:43:03just just consider that if something
  2311. 2:43:05happened how would that affect the the
  2312. 2:43:08possibility of banks to get paid. So
  2313. 2:43:11this is something we are trying to do it
  2314. 2:43:14into this credit model
  2315. 2:43:17and I already said it's easy to say and
  2316. 2:43:21looks quite nice in slide but in real
  2317. 2:43:24term it's extremely hard because a lot
  2318. 2:43:26of modeling typical financial modeling
  2319. 2:43:29you have back data for at least three to
  2320. 2:43:31five years or maybe even 10 to 20 years
  2321. 2:43:34for stock market and bond market for
  2322. 2:43:37this specific issues
  2323. 2:43:40any type of historical data may not be
  2324. 2:43:42that relevant. It's not easy to create
  2325. 2:43:45causality between certain heat wave with
  2326. 2:43:48some type of losses because everything
  2327. 2:43:50is kind of idiosyncratic in a way. So we
  2328. 2:43:52need to relying on historical data but
  2329. 2:43:55at the same time we need to rely on
  2330. 2:43:57stress testing and scenario analysis and
  2331. 2:43:59I know that our regulator is also
  2332. 2:44:02putting a lot of efforts on that area to
  2333. 2:44:05help us to going into the right
  2334. 2:44:08direction as well. So this is more like
  2335. 2:44:11the combination of these postante and
  2336. 2:44:13xante type of analysis plus some type of
  2337. 2:44:16qualitative analysis as well. And the
  2338. 2:44:19other thing that makes this a little bit
  2339. 2:44:21more difficult is that if there is any
  2340. 2:44:24type of action from players to pre
  2341. 2:44:27prevent this hazard that can also change
  2342. 2:44:30all the dynamic of metrics. So suppose
  2343. 2:44:32there are two houses one with fire alarm
  2344. 2:44:35the other one without fire alarm and
  2345. 2:44:37there is fire the the effect will be
  2346. 2:44:40totally different and it can be like
  2347. 2:44:42100% loss 0% loss. So that's something
  2348. 2:44:45how this is is quite complicated in
  2349. 2:44:48nearly
  2350. 2:44:51so this is another one how we are using
  2351. 2:44:55tools and sciences to detect this type
  2352. 2:44:57of risk and putting into our models. So
  2353. 2:45:02uh maybe in this nice map you can kind
  2354. 2:45:05of see if there is there's more data
  2355. 2:45:08that we can relying on we can actually
  2356. 2:45:11use that specific data kind of tagging
  2357. 2:45:13into the specific asset. So that would
  2358. 2:45:16be the best kind of idea but if we don't
  2359. 2:45:18have that one we are using postal
  2360. 2:45:21level of data or anything kind of
  2361. 2:45:24regional data as well. I know that AI
  2362. 2:45:27has been helping this type of climate
  2363. 2:45:30and a analysis a lot as well these days.
  2364. 2:45:33So this is one of those kind of positive
  2365. 2:45:36thing that we can we can kind of expect
  2366. 2:45:38to happen as well. So the idea is
  2367. 2:45:42identifying the physical risk and
  2368. 2:45:44connecting it to the existing losses and
  2369. 2:45:46how we can evaluate in the banking
  2370. 2:45:48balance sheet.
  2371. 2:45:51So this is a little bit of bright side
  2372. 2:45:53because I've been only talking about
  2373. 2:45:55risk and risk and my job is actually not
  2374. 2:45:58the risk of professional. So I want to
  2375. 2:46:00bring it into a little bit positive
  2376. 2:46:02territory. So if there is company or any
  2377. 2:46:06type of institution putting their many
  2378. 2:46:09their money to prevent this type of
  2379. 2:46:12climate risk especially physical risk.
  2380. 2:46:14If they do it well, it can actually turn
  2381. 2:46:18into the revenue or maybe some type of
  2382. 2:46:21saving of loss. And there is some
  2383. 2:46:24studies of analyzing you put $1, it can
  2384. 2:46:27be turning into the two to three dollars
  2385. 2:46:29as well. But maybe in terms of time
  2386. 2:46:31horizon, it may not be the same
  2387. 2:46:33financial year. But if you have lying
  2388. 2:46:35three to five years of projection with
  2389. 2:46:38solid kind of forecast, it can actually
  2390. 2:46:40be something putting your valuation into
  2391. 2:46:44the higher jone as well.
  2392. 2:46:49So what I want to emphasize is that we
  2393. 2:46:52already know there are risk. We already
  2394. 2:46:54know there are tools available that may
  2395. 2:46:56not be perfect but still practically
  2396. 2:46:58available for banks and investors to use
  2397. 2:47:02for analyzing their portfolio. So our
  2398. 2:47:06next step would be putting this into the
  2399. 2:47:08perspective of where we need to put
  2400. 2:47:11money for mitigation or adaptation and
  2401. 2:47:14resilience. So from commercial bank's
  2402. 2:47:17perspective
  2403. 2:47:18we cannot put money even if there is
  2404. 2:47:21really good kind of like result will be
  2405. 2:47:24happening for public we still need to
  2406. 2:47:26maintain certain type of return. So
  2407. 2:47:29because of that kind of
  2408. 2:47:31commercialization,
  2409. 2:47:33we need to actually do this kind of
  2410. 2:47:35layers and identify specific project
  2411. 2:47:39that would be bankable and having the
  2412. 2:47:42greatest impact given the limited risk
  2413. 2:47:46appetite that we have.
  2414. 2:47:50So this will be the practical action
  2415. 2:47:52agenda for commercial banks. So first
  2416. 2:47:56step is to mapping the exposure. So you
  2417. 2:47:59need to understand where the exposure is
  2418. 2:48:02and what is your current status of your
  2419. 2:48:04lending portfolio based on this mapping
  2420. 2:48:08and you need to quantify the impact. So
  2421. 2:48:10in that quantification depending on the
  2422. 2:48:13model and depending on the quality of
  2423. 2:48:15data the result would be a little bit
  2424. 2:48:17different but the direction will be
  2425. 2:48:19mostly in the same direction as well and
  2426. 2:48:23you need to integrate decisions. So in
  2427. 2:48:25the middle part is something we need to
  2428. 2:48:28bring this topic to more to the top
  2429. 2:48:31senior management level as well. It's
  2430. 2:48:33not just about the talk between risk
  2431. 2:48:35professionals and maybe ESG specialist
  2432. 2:48:38and some of financial profession. It's
  2433. 2:48:40something the seuite or senior
  2434. 2:48:43management need to consider in their
  2435. 2:48:45five to 10 year kind of road map as
  2436. 2:48:49well.
  2437. 2:48:49>> So maybe you can finish in 30 seconds.
  2438. 2:48:52>> 30 seconds. Okay. And the last part
  2439. 2:48:55engage with clients and financing
  2440. 2:48:57resilience and having good partner like
  2441. 2:48:59ADB do Dr. Marine will be something that
  2442. 2:49:02we can actually scaling up this and
  2443. 2:49:04thank you professor. Thank you.
  2444. 2:49:06>> Thank you so much. Thank you so much uh
  2445. 2:49:08uh Miss Kim uh for sharing commercial
  2446. 2:49:11bank's perspective uh and on risk
  2447. 2:49:13management and adaptation finance. Now
  2448. 2:49:16the last but not the least uh
  2449. 2:49:18presentation uh will be given by uh uh
  2450. 2:49:21Mr. Hanjing Kim Hanjin Kim from FSS and
  2451. 2:49:25then he'll be talking about the risk
  2452. 2:49:27measurement and quantification and also
  2453. 2:49:30financial sector regulation.
  2454. 2:49:51Fore
  2455. 2:49:55stress test.
  2456. 2:50:18Stretch.
  2457. 2:50:39Stress. Stress. Stress.
  2458. 2:50:45Stress
  2459. 2:51:01financial system.
  2460. 2:51:47GFS
  2461. 2:51:51Fore
  2462. 2:52:20test.
  2463. 2:52:27Top down.
  2464. 2:52:53Egypt.
  2465. 2:53:08Huh?
  2466. 2:53:38Okay.
  2467. 2:54:09Emission pathway Nice.
  2468. 2:54:22Fore!
  2469. 2:54:34Foreign! Foreign!
  2470. 2:55:08Stress test.
  2471. 2:55:21Cemetery man.
  2472. 2:56:06GDP.
  2473. 2:56:16Foreign
  2474. 2:56:32speech. Foreign speech.
  2475. 2:57:09for
  2476. 2:57:27GDP baseline.
  2477. 2:57:46Foreign
  2478. 2:58:06speech. Foreign speech.
  2479. 2:59:04stress test.
  2480. 2:59:23Walking.
  2481. 2:59:31Thank you so much. Okay. Not uh not
  2482. 2:59:34surprisingly we don't have much time
  2483. 2:59:36remaining. So although I have prepared a
  2484. 2:59:39lot of questions but uh only one
  2485. 2:59:41question can can be given to each of
  2486. 2:59:43these panelists. Okay. Let me begin uh
  2487. 2:59:46with uh uh asking questions to Mr.
  2488. 2:59:49Ramashita.
  2489. 2:59:51So the risk layering approach uh you
  2490. 2:59:54mentioned uh combines risk retention,
  2491. 2:59:57contingent finance and insurance and
  2492. 3:00:01capital market uh instruments. And the
  2493. 3:00:04question is what principle should guide
  2494. 3:00:07uh the allocation of disaster risk among
  2495. 3:00:10governments and insurance multilateral
  2496. 3:00:13institutions and private investors. How
  2497. 3:00:15do you think about that issue?
  2498. 3:00:17>> It doesn't work. Okay.
  2499. 3:00:20Uh thank you very much. Um a very great
  2500. 3:00:23question. First of all what I want to
  2501. 3:00:25highlight here is even though I
  2502. 3:00:27mentioned the risk layering approach it
  2503. 3:00:30is just a principle uh what I want to
  2504. 3:00:33say is uh every country depending on the
  2505. 3:00:37local context of different countries you
  2506. 3:00:39need to consider different applications.
  2507. 3:00:43uh in considering the best uh policy mix
  2508. 3:00:48uh I think there are basically three
  2509. 3:00:51important factors. The first thing is
  2510. 3:00:54fiscal space. The second thing is the
  2511. 3:00:58development level of financial markets
  2512. 3:01:01such as capital markets and uh insurance
  2513. 3:01:03markets. The final thing is the
  2514. 3:01:06availability of uh disaster related
  2515. 3:01:09data. Depending on these combination of
  2516. 3:01:12these three factors you can even though
  2517. 3:01:14you are in line with risk clearing
  2518. 3:01:16approach you can find a different
  2519. 3:01:18answer. Uh let me take an example of
  2520. 3:01:21Japan. Unfortunately Japan experienced a
  2521. 3:01:24lots of lots of uh disasters especially
  2522. 3:01:27earthquakes. However as a result of that
  2523. 3:01:30in Japan there is a very welldeveloped
  2524. 3:01:33uh insurance markets for earthquakes.
  2525. 3:01:37But it is possible because of two
  2526. 3:01:40factors. First one is uh in Japan uh you
  2527. 3:01:44have very well designed standardized
  2528. 3:01:47hazard data uh in every corner of Japan.
  2529. 3:01:51That is one thing. Another thing is uh
  2530. 3:01:54thanks to the efforts of Tokyo Marine uh
  2531. 3:01:57Japan already has a very uh in-depth
  2532. 3:02:00market of insurance. Thank even in
  2533. 3:02:04Japan. However, I have to say uh
  2534. 3:02:06insurance companies, private insurance
  2535. 3:02:09companies alone cannot take all of the
  2536. 3:02:12uh risks arising from earthquakes.
  2537. 3:02:15Therefore, uh earthquake insurance is
  2538. 3:02:18co-shared by private insurance companies
  2539. 3:02:20and the government Japanese government.
  2540. 3:02:23I don't think that kind of model can be
  2541. 3:02:25transferred to many developing
  2542. 3:02:28countries. So therefore uh so I
  2543. 3:02:31explained the example of cat bond
  2544. 3:02:34insurance in two centralized Asian
  2545. 3:02:36countries but that is the answer by ADB
  2546. 3:02:39after careful uh considerations with
  2547. 3:02:42lots of conversations with these
  2548. 3:02:45countries. Unfortunately these central
  2549. 3:02:47Asian countries uh uh are concerned
  2550. 3:02:51fiscal space is very limited also there
  2551. 3:02:54is no uh financial uh developed
  2552. 3:02:57financial markets. So therefore ADB
  2553. 3:02:59decided ADB issues CAT bond on behalf of
  2554. 3:03:04these uh central Asian countries. Uh
  2555. 3:03:07that uh advantage of that approach is uh
  2556. 3:03:09these countries can use the triple a
  2557. 3:03:12credit rating of ADB also ADB has a lot
  2558. 3:03:16of knowhows and expertise in uh capital
  2559. 3:03:19markets. So that is the approach we
  2560. 3:03:21provided to uh to central Asian
  2561. 3:03:24countries. But probably as asan
  2562. 3:03:26countries like Philippine, Indonesia, uh
  2563. 3:03:28Malaysia uh have different uh context
  2564. 3:03:32because they are relatively uh
  2565. 3:03:35welldeveloped uh middle inome countries
  2566. 3:03:37and they have uh relatively developed uh
  2567. 3:03:41insurance uh markets. So therefore our
  2568. 3:03:44approach as the secretariat of asan plus
  2569. 3:03:46DPI we uh carefully consider tailorm
  2570. 3:03:50made approach for individual countries.
  2571. 3:03:53Let me stop here.
  2572. 3:03:53>> Wow. Excellent. That is very interesting
  2573. 3:03:55perspective and then there is no one
  2574. 3:03:57sizefits all solution for risk sharing
  2575. 3:03:59transferring uh is very important
  2576. 3:04:01insights. Thank you so much. This brings
  2577. 3:04:03us from regional risk sharing mechanisms
  2578. 3:04:06to the role that insurance insurers uh
  2579. 3:04:10can can play in strengthening uh
  2580. 3:04:12resilience before and after disasters.
  2581. 3:04:15So let me ask a question to Mr.
  2582. 3:04:18Nagamura. Uh and the question is
  2583. 3:04:22insurers need to price price in actually
  2584. 3:04:25price in physical risk accurately but
  2585. 3:04:27higher premiums or withdrawal of
  2586. 3:04:31coverage can make vulnerable communities
  2587. 3:04:33and business even more vulnerable or uh
  2588. 3:04:36so there's a problem that how can
  2589. 3:04:38insurers preserve both uh risk based
  2590. 3:04:41pricing and also broadbased access to
  2591. 3:04:45insure insurance as climate risk
  2592. 3:04:47intensifies over time. Yes. Thank you
  2593. 3:04:50very much, Professor Eon for the very
  2594. 3:04:53important question. Now, I think the
  2595. 3:04:56answer to that is um it can be
  2596. 3:04:58approached multiple ways. We have a a
  2597. 3:05:02series of counter measures that are in
  2598. 3:05:04place that can be deployed. The most
  2599. 3:05:06simple way of of our action is to hike
  2600. 3:05:10rates. But as you said, if if you if we
  2601. 3:05:13apply a sharp rate increases, that only
  2602. 3:05:16helps policy holders to flee away, and
  2603. 3:05:19that's not that's that's not good. Um,
  2604. 3:05:21but if you review the terms and
  2605. 3:05:24conditions of insurance policy, uh there
  2606. 3:05:27may be some coverages which are less
  2607. 3:05:29relevant to your operation. You can take
  2608. 3:05:31away those and which helps to reduce the
  2609. 3:05:34the premium. Also you can review the uh
  2610. 3:05:37the deductibles or self-insured portion
  2611. 3:05:39of policies by inc by increasing that
  2612. 3:05:42part you can save uh some premium there.
  2613. 3:05:45So there are some techniques to reduce
  2614. 3:05:47the the impact of u increased premium um
  2615. 3:05:51for for on the insurance side uh we uh
  2616. 3:05:55apply we have uh an reinsurance
  2617. 3:05:58community on on on the backstage. We
  2618. 3:06:02deal on a daily basis with our with
  2619. 3:06:04reinsurers and we also deal with the
  2620. 3:06:06with capital markets such as cat bonds
  2621. 3:06:09uh such as Yamashan
  2622. 3:06:12introduced.
  2623. 3:06:13Those are the mechanisms where we can
  2624. 3:06:16manage our um our uh retained uh our
  2625. 3:06:22retention portfolio uh to make it to
  2626. 3:06:26make our insurance underwriting u
  2627. 3:06:28sustainable.
  2628. 3:06:30Um so perhaps uh in the future we may
  2629. 3:06:33need to use uh capital markets more
  2630. 3:06:35efficiently uh so that we can uh find
  2631. 3:06:38more options of uh risk transfer. So so
  2632. 3:06:42but but I can go more but I think I
  2633. 3:06:46should stop you. Okay. Thank you so much
  2634. 3:06:48for considering the time. Thank you so
  2635. 3:06:49much for sharing very important insights
  2636. 3:06:52and then these actually perspective
  2637. 3:06:54example uh uh these examples show uh
  2638. 3:06:58that insurers can do more than
  2639. 3:07:00compensating for the losses actually it
  2640. 3:07:02can help prevent and reduce them uh and
  2641. 3:07:06and the next question is then how banks
  2642. 3:07:08can incorporate the same resilience
  2643. 3:07:10objective into their lending and
  2644. 3:07:12investment practices. The question now
  2645. 3:07:15going to uh m Keem is so uh adaptation
  2646. 3:07:20produces substantial uh social benefits
  2647. 3:07:23as you emphasized but many of those
  2648. 3:07:26benefits in fact do not generate clear
  2649. 3:07:30or immediate cash flows cash flows for
  2650. 3:07:33investors. That is a problem. then what
  2651. 3:07:35would be needed to turn adaptation from
  2652. 3:07:38a compelling policy objective into a
  2653. 3:07:41genuy bankable asset classes? I'd like
  2654. 3:07:44to hear your perspective on that.
  2655. 3:07:46>> Okay. So I guess the main issue is that
  2656. 3:07:50as an investor when you put your money
  2657. 3:07:52you kind of have some type of
  2658. 3:07:54expectation on the return and the risk
  2659. 3:07:56for the adaptation project. A lot of
  2660. 3:07:59time you know the risk and the return
  2661. 3:08:01that you may get in in terms of dollar
  2662. 3:08:04term or in Korean one term may not
  2663. 3:08:07capture what you are actually bearing
  2664. 3:08:11the risk because a lot of other positive
  2665. 3:08:14externalities going way beyond this
  2666. 3:08:18specific project. So the one way would
  2667. 3:08:20be tackling this is how we can actually
  2668. 3:08:25price this you know and I guess there
  2669. 3:08:28will be still some rigid that we will
  2670. 3:08:30never be able to price and that's where
  2671. 3:08:33public money should come in and somehow
  2672. 3:08:36monetize this type of participation from
  2673. 3:08:39commercial side encouraging them to kind
  2674. 3:08:42of participate more on this project but
  2675. 3:08:45at the same time bank should not also
  2676. 3:08:48relying on public money to compensate
  2677. 3:08:51most risk and just getting the juicy
  2678. 3:08:53return as well. So we need to have you
  2679. 3:08:56know proper measurement and the model to
  2680. 3:08:59actually analyze what will be the price
  2681. 3:09:01of the risk and just requesting the
  2682. 3:09:04proper return not anything beyond the
  2683. 3:09:07risk that we will be bearing right after
  2684. 3:09:10the public money is observing some
  2685. 3:09:12losses. So that would be some kind of
  2686. 3:09:15slicing point and most of time this can
  2687. 3:09:18be done by better measurement better
  2688. 3:09:20data and also a little bit of
  2689. 3:09:23aggregation of project because one
  2690. 3:09:25project may be too risk so maybe if we
  2691. 3:09:27can combine 100 project with the same
  2692. 3:09:30theme just like a lot of time adv does
  2693. 3:09:33that one as well is also diversifying
  2694. 3:09:35it's easier for commercial bank to put
  2695. 3:09:37their money as well.
  2696. 3:09:39>> Thank you so much. Thank you so much for
  2697. 3:09:40emphasizing the fact that banks needs
  2698. 3:09:42better measurement and better data and
  2699. 3:09:44this naturally takes us from identifying
  2700. 3:09:47managing and managing physical risk to
  2701. 3:09:50the challenge of financing resilience.
  2702. 3:09:52And now uh our final presentation uh by
  2703. 3:09:55m Mr. Kim uh examines how supervisors
  2704. 3:09:59can measure uh these risk consistently
  2705. 3:10:02and translate them into financial sector
  2706. 3:10:04action. Now the final question goes to
  2707. 3:10:08Mr. Kim is the FSS is moving toward as
  2708. 3:10:12you uh uh said uh moving toward a
  2709. 3:10:15shorter five-year stress test horizon uh
  2710. 3:10:18to make physical climate risk more
  2711. 3:10:21relevant to current financial decision-
  2712. 3:10:24making. Then how can supervisors achieve
  2713. 3:10:27this practical relevance uh without
  2714. 3:10:30losing the sight of a severe long-term
  2715. 3:10:33uh climate risk that fall outside of the
  2716. 3:10:36planning horizon of financial
  2717. 3:10:37institutions? That is my question to
  2718. 3:10:40you. How can we reconcile those tension?
  2719. 3:10:50Oh,
  2720. 3:11:03test frame
  2721. 3:11:10test exercise.
  2722. 3:11:31Okay, thank you so much for limiting uh
  2723. 3:11:33you know uh your your answers uh you
  2724. 3:11:35know quite short period of time and so
  2725. 3:11:38uh okay so I think we are already over
  2726. 3:11:41time so I need to conclude this session
  2727. 3:11:44right away uh so today's present
  2728. 3:11:46presentations have shown how physical
  2729. 3:11:48climate risk can can be shared across uh
  2730. 3:11:52different stakeholders and also insured
  2731. 3:11:54by insurers and also managed by banks
  2732. 3:11:57and assessed by supervisors.
  2733. 3:12:00So um no I think that it is very
  2734. 3:12:03meaningful for uh MDBs representatives
  2735. 3:12:06from MDBs insurers and banks and
  2736. 3:12:08regulators actually talking with each
  2737. 3:12:11other sitting down together uh to talk
  2738. 3:12:13about innovations uh in financial sector
  2739. 3:12:16you know financial sector innovation
  2740. 3:12:17what I mean by financial sector
  2741. 3:12:19innovation is innovation in financial
  2742. 3:12:21services and also innovations in
  2743. 3:12:22financial regulation. So we need to work
  2744. 3:12:25on this in order to meet and and pursue
  2745. 3:12:28our challenging uh task which is uh
  2746. 3:12:32tackling climate crisis. So I think this
  2747. 3:12:35can be a very meaningful starting point
  2748. 3:12:37where we can join forces to pursue this
  2749. 3:12:41innovations in climate finance and also
  2750. 3:12:44uh therefore implement very very
  2751. 3:12:47concrete actions to combat uh with
  2752. 3:12:49climate crisis. Uh and thank you so much
  2753. 3:12:52everybody for uh your attention and also
  2754. 3:12:55let's give these uh panelists a big
  2755. 3:12:57round no applause.
  2756. 3:13:01Thank you so much. Thank you so much.
  2757. 3:13:17Ladies and gentlemen, this brings us to
  2758. 3:13:19[music] the end of the 2026
  2759. 3:13:21International Conference, Future Climate
  2760. 3:13:23Finance in the era of green transition.
  2761. 3:13:26I would like to extend my sincere
  2762. 3:13:28appreciation to the moderators,
  2763. 3:13:30speakers, and participants [music]
  2764. 3:13:31for joining us today. Later in the
  2765. 3:13:34afternoon, we will continue with the
  2766. 3:13:36finals of the eighth future finance AI
  2767. 3:13:39challenge where creative ideas for
  2768. 3:13:41future finance using AI [music] will be
  2769. 3:13:44demonstrated.
  2770. 3:13:45And afterwards, we will host a career
  2771. 3:13:48seminar joined by people [music] in
  2772. 3:13:50charge of HR at major financial
  2773. 3:13:52companies. At the seminar, they will
  2774. 3:13:54explain the qualities and merits that
  2775. 3:13:56their firms look for in prospective
  2776. 3:13:59hires. We look forward to your continued
  2777. 3:14:02interest and [music] active
  2778. 3:14:03participation. Thank you very much.

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