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- 0:03Hello everyone, I am Huang Chih-hsien,
- 0:06today is Monday, November 2nd.
- 0:09This year's election voting day is
- 0:12November 28th, which is 26 days from now
- 0:15. That is less than four weeks away. So
- 0:19the election race is heating up
- 0:21intensely now.
- 0:25Alright, let's look at Saturday's debate
- 0:28.
- 0:36Because October 31st was the anniversary
- 0:38of Chiang Kai-shek's birth, and there
- 0:41was the Pride Parade that afternoon,
- 0:43plus Shen Po-yang finished his big
- 0:45debate at noon, and in the evening there
- 0:48was the Halloween event, everyone in
- 0:50Taipei went crazy,
- 0:57it's quite funny.
- 1:00There were many people who went to
- 1:03cosplay as cockroaches.
- 1:08And rats, some cosplayed as sanitation
- 1:11workers, and some even cosplayed as rat
- 1:14catchers.
- 1:21And there were also people who cosplayed
- 1:24as the [deleted] in the MRT carriage
- 1:26that was dismantled.
- 1:32I, I got a little tripped up.
- 1:36I think it's brilliant, I really think
- 1:39it's great, because Halloween is
- 1:41originally a ghost festival, a Western
- 1:44ghost festival, so if you are in the US
- 1:46for Halloween, many people's cosplay
- 1:49revolves around ghosts, but in Taiwan,
- 1:51playing Halloween is turned into, oh, we
- 1:54use this to do all kinds of cosplay to
- 1:57express our feelings, emotions, or
- 1:59whatever, it's really, really too funny
- 2:02.
- 2:04I personally don't celebrate Halloween,
- 2:07I never do, because I don't like it, but
- 2:09seeing how crazy Taiwanese people are
- 2:12about Halloween is just too adorable.
- 2:14What else?
- 2:17I saw a group of young people, maybe six
- 2:20or seven of them, cosplayed as a pack of
- 2:24enoki mushrooms, they cosplayed as enoki
- 2:27, just, just because.
- 2:33It was hilarious, eight people got
- 2:36together and became enoki mushrooms, and
- 2:38on the side of the road, wow, they were
- 2:41just like the bags of enoki mushrooms
- 2:43you see in the supermarket.
- 2:47It's like anything goes for Halloween
- 2:49cosplay, and you can see from it that
- 2:51young people—because they are all young
- 2:53people—there were seven or eight big
- 2:55cockroaches on the side of the road,
- 2:57which is about how there have been many
- 3:00cockroaches and rats in Taipei recently
- 3:02.
- 3:03And so on and so forth, so this is just
- 3:06what young people enjoy and like to do.
- 3:10They are expressing themselves and
- 3:12showing their concerns and feelings, so
- 3:15it's a lot of fun.
- 3:17Maybe in a couple of days, I'll put up
- 3:20the ones I found, it's so funny.
- 3:24Then let's talk about the debate first.
- 3:27Regarding the debate, of course, because
- 3:30of copyright issues, TVBS is very strict
- 3:33, and I don't know if I would get taken
- 3:35down if I played it in small clips.
- 3:38Chang Yu-hsuan is having a rough time.
- 3:41Chang Yu-hsuan live-streamed this debate
- 3:44, and he asked Shen Po-yang's team, "
- 3:46Can you authorize me to broadcast it?"
- 3:49Shen Po-yang's team granted
- 3:51authorization, but the copyright was
- 3:54held by TVBS.
- 3:56So, TVBS later filed a report, and as a
- 3:59result, Chang Yu-hsuan's live stream was
- 4:02banned by YouTube, it seems for three
- 4:05months.
- 4:08He can't live stream for three months,
- 4:11but that should just be live streaming.
- 4:15But is my volume very low?
- 4:20Why would it be like this?
- 4:26Is it any better now?
- 4:29Is it any better now? Oh, never mind.
- 4:34Let's just continue—no, no, no, no, I
- 4:38didn't pinch it.
- 4:41Because if I had pinched this, the
- 4:43background would hear it, and it would
- 4:45be really quiet.
- 4:47Later.
- 4:52But I don't know where the problem is.
- 4:58Where does it sound like the problem is
- 5:00to you?
- 5:01Ah.
- 5:06That must be a network issue because I
- 5:09can hear the echo fine myself.
- 5:14I'm already like this, and I didn't
- 5:16press anything here either.
- 5:20Look, the mic is right here. It's
- 5:23impossible to have pressed anything.
- 5:26It's blue. The blue light is on.
- 5:32Is this okay?
- 5:35Mhm. Or do you want to reconnect? Sorry
- 5:39about that. I apologize. While I was
- 5:42talking so enthusiastically, was it
- 5:44because I mentioned Halloween? Did it
- 5:46trigger some kind of realm?
- 5:50Then I must apologize.
- 5:56I really love how these kids and young
- 5:59people cosplay and have so much fun, and
- 6:02there's no malice at all.
- 6:05It doesn't make you feel scared; it's
- 6:08just...
- 6:11Ah.
- 6:15Let's reconnect then.
- 6:20It should be a network connection issue
- 6:23because our backend is fine, so it must
- 6:25be YouTube.
- 6:41Shouldn't we reconnect?
- 6:49Sorry, no.
- 7:08Hmm, so there's no problem between me
- 7:11and the backend here?
- 7:15Is there a problem from the backend to
- 7:18YouTube?
- 7:20Right?
- 7:22Unless I connect directly myself.
- 7:26But then I wouldn't be able to play the
- 7:28clips. Yes.
- 7:32No?
- 7:34Then...
- 7:40Should we continue?
- 7:46Let's just continue, okay?
- 7:53Let's just continue, because you don't
- 7:56know where the problem is like this, and
- 7:58some people hear it fine while others
- 8:00say the sound is very low.
- 8:06I'm going to keep talking. Fine. There's
- 8:09a lot of content today, I'm afraid I
- 8:11won't finish.
- 8:14Alright, the TVBS Poll Center actually
- 8:16released the latest poll Saturday night
- 8:19right after the debate.
- 8:23This is an emergency poll they conducted
- 8:26, mobilizing 98 interviewers to conduct
- 8:29telephone surveys from 2 PM to 6 PM,
- 8:32with 1,747 valid samples of Taipei
- 8:35citizens.
- 8:38The result is that 47%thought Chen
- 8:40Po-yang performed better, while 40%
- 8:43thought Chiang Wan-an performed better.
- 8:48This is quite special. Okay, why is that
- 8:52?
- 8:53Because while the debate was still
- 8:55ongoing—it hadn't even ended at two
- 8:58o'clock yet—the online battle had
- 9:00already begun.
- 9:03A massive number of Chiang Wan-an's
- 9:05supporter accounts came out saying how
- 9:08handsome Chiang was and how well he
- 9:10spoke, then fully attacked Chen Po-yang
- 9:13, claiming he was crushed; Chen's
- 9:15supporters also came out afterward to
- 9:17speak up. But I will look at this fairly
- 9:20and objectively. Chiang Wan-an’s
- 9:23momentum was extremely strong. He kept
- 9:26questioning Chen, blah blah blah,
- 9:29looking radiant and full of energy.
- 9:34Because before the debate, Chiang hid at
- 9:37home for two days, not running any
- 9:39public events or seeing anyone, and then
- 9:41his campaign managers came out and said
- 9:44, "Oh, he's not feeling well, he has a
- 9:46cold, his voice is hoarse."
- 9:55But once he appeared, he was full of
- 9:57spirit, eloquent, and his voice was
- 10:00excellent; actually, I thought the
- 10:02visual was good and his speaking was
- 10:04sharp and cutting, while you could see
- 10:07Chen Po-yang was very restrained.
- 10:13Before the debate, he was still doing
- 10:15his daily schedule for over a dozen
- 10:18hours. He had absolutely no rest.
- 10:24On the day of the debate, in situations
- 10:26where he could have gone for the kill,
- 10:28he didn't.
- 10:32Then he quoted Kevin Tsai's words and
- 10:35the Book of Rites, specifically the
- 10:37section on the Great Unity.
- 10:41When the debate started, he first asked
- 10:43about Chiang Wan-an's health.
- 10:47So you can feel that the two sides had
- 10:49different strategies and different
- 10:52attitudes. Chiang Wan-an was on the
- 10:55offensive. Chiang Wan-an was aggressive
- 10:58.
- 10:59Chen Po-yang was very steady; he could
- 11:01have attacked, but you could feel him
- 11:04holding back, constantly pulling in.
- 11:08So Chiang's supporters were very
- 11:10energized throughout the afternoon after
- 11:12the debate, backed by many accounts—I
- 11:14can't call them internet armies, just
- 11:17accounts—continuously attacking.
- 11:20As for Chen Po-yang's supporters, they
- 11:23were very nervous; they felt Chen was
- 11:25being bullied, they felt Chen didn't...
- 11:28but I will share my views on this in a
- 11:30moment.
- 11:32But the host this time was TVBS, and
- 11:36TVBS is very difficult.
- 11:38And from the TVBS poll, you can clearly
- 11:42see that 47%thought Chen Po-yang was
- 11:45better. You have to realize that TVBS
- 11:48has an institutional effect.
- 11:51Right.
- 11:55So, from the TVBS poll, the 47%who
- 11:58thought Chen Po-yang performed better is
- 12:01more than the 40%who thought Chiang
- 12:04Wan-an was better, which is interesting
- 12:06.
- 12:12While the internet can be manipulated,
- 12:14polls are relatively more scientific;
- 12:17secondly, the question was asked on
- 12:19Saturday, asking if the election were
- 12:22tomorrow on Sunday, who would you vote
- 12:24for?
- 12:28More people said they would vote for
- 12:31Chiang Wan-an at 46%, while only 42%
- 12:34said they would vote for Shen Po-yang.
- 12:37Chiang Wan-an leads by 4%.
- 12:40Note that the margin of error for this
- 12:43poll is under plus or minus 3%, likely
- 12:46around plus or minus 2 point something.
- 12:50So, Chiang Wan-an's 4%lead is, of course
- 12:54, beyond the margin of error.
- 12:58However, the TVBS survey on October 7th
- 13:01showed Chiang Wan-an winning over Shen
- 13:04Po-yang.
- 13:07Now the gap between their leads has
- 13:09narrowed, so while the numbers differ,
- 13:12the trend is consistent.
- 13:15Secondly, we have already discussed the
- 13:19TVBS institutional effect.
- 13:23Furthermore, it's quite funny that the
- 13:26cross-analysis in TVBS's own survey
- 13:28found that the televised debate had a
- 13:31significant impact on voters '
- 13:33intentions.
- 13:35This is a TVBS poll.
- 13:39It states that among those who watched
- 13:42the debate, 52%support Shen Po-yang,
- 13:45leading Chiang Wan-an by 4%.
- 13:51Among those who did not watch the debate
- 13:54, more support Chiang Wan-an at 54%,
- 13:57which is higher than Shen Po-yang's 27%
- 14:00.
- 14:05In other words, in TVBS's own survey, 52
- 14:08%of those who watched the debate support
- 14:12Shen Po-yang.
- 14:18This is very alarming. You have to
- 14:22realize, because this was conducted by
- 14:25TVBS, and the TVBS sample has issues.
- 14:29Why?
- 14:31Because if you cross-reference the
- 14:34people they asked in 2022 about voting
- 14:36for Chiang Wan-an, Chen Shih-chung, and
- 14:39Huang Shan-shan, it’s different from
- 14:41their current proportions.
- 14:45Meaning that the final sample TVBS used
- 14:48this time was actually biased toward
- 14:51Chiang Wan-an, yet the result you
- 14:53produced shows you only leading Shen
- 14:56Po-yang by 4%.
- 14:58Then, combined with the fact that many
- 15:00people decided to vote for Shen Po-yang
- 15:03after watching this debate, I predict
- 15:05there probably won't be a second debate
- 15:08. Now,
- 15:16Giving topics in advance, why did this
- 15:19happen?
- 15:24Well, the standard format for this
- 15:26debate is two candidates, both making
- 15:28opening statements; each person speaks
- 15:31for a segment, which can all be prepared
- 15:33in advance.
- 15:36And,
- 15:39For questioning, you can prepare your
- 15:41questions, what you want to ask the
- 15:43other side, what you’ll say in your
- 15:45closing statement, and what conclusion
- 15:47you want to make, which you can also
- 15:49prepare for yourself. So, for a
- 15:51candidate in this debate arena, what is
- 15:54it that they cannot prepare for? They
- 15:57don't know what topics the other side
- 15:59will throw out—there are two: one is
- 16:01what your opponent will ask you. You can
- 16:03certainly guess in advance, but you
- 16:05don't know what the other side will
- 16:06actually ask; they definitely won't tell
- 16:08you. The second thing is what the media
- 16:11will ask. You can't really prepare for
- 16:14this.
- 16:15In debates between candidates worldwide
- 16:18, media questions are crucial.
- 16:21You bring media professionals on-site to
- 16:24ask questions because they represent the
- 16:27"fourth estate."
- 16:29Even if some media lean blue, green, or
- 16:32otherwise, you are, after all, the media
- 16:35. Therefore, you should maintain a
- 16:38minimum level of impartiality as a third
- 16:41party. So, what questions should the
- 16:44media ask? Regardless of whether you are
- 16:46a blue or green-leaning outlet, you must
- 16:48keep them confidential beforehand; you
- 16:50cannot let the other side know. Because
- 16:53the whole point is to test the other
- 16:55side's ability to react on the spot.
- 17:00Yet, in Taiwan, no one ever thought: "
- 17:02Do you media outlets actually give the
- 17:05questions to people in advance?"
- 17:08As it turned out, during the debate that
- 17:11day, Chiang Wan-an kept his head down
- 17:14reading from a script. It would be one
- 17:17thing to read your own opening statement
- 17:20, but even after the media questions, he
- 17:23kept reading, just kept reading.
- 17:25Everyone found it very strange.
- 17:28Someone wrote on Threads that they
- 17:31dreamt the media had leaked the
- 17:33questions.
- 17:35When asked, Shen Po-yang replied: "Yes,
- 17:38they gave the questions in advance, but
- 17:41I don't know why." Eventually, TVBS
- 17:44executives admitted that the questions
- 17:47were provided in advance. Then Lo
- 17:49Chih-chiang posted, mocking Sanlih and
- 17:52Wu Szu-yao, saying: "Providing the
- 17:55questions in advance was agreed upon by
- 17:58TVBS and Sanlih. Wu was there and agreed
- 18:01, so what are you doing now?"
- 18:06Then a TVBS executive said, "Oh, we gave
- 18:08the questions in advance four years ago
- 18:11too." But then other media figures, like
- 18:14the editor-in-chief of the Liberty Times
- 18:17, Chou Ching, said he has served as a
- 18:19media questioner in many elections
- 18:22before. He said that the organizers have
- 18:24never had such a situation.
- 18:27He added that the press considers
- 18:29leaking questions a strictly forbidden
- 18:32taboo.
- 18:35So now it has become a Rashomon-style
- 18:38mystery: should media questions be
- 18:41provided in advance or not?
- 18:47I think it's quite laughable.
- 18:54Now, let's take a look at a second poll
- 18:56, which is the latest one released this
- 18:59morning.
- 19:04This was commissioned by the Taiwan
- 19:07Promotion Association and conducted by
- 19:11the AI Polling Center using AI-automated
- 19:14telephone interviews, with a sample of
- 19:181,436 people: 884 via landline and 552
- 19:21via mobile.
- 19:25The survey was conducted from 9:00 AM to
- 19:295:54 PM on November 1st, with a 95%
- 19:31confidence level and a maximum sampling
- 19:35error of plus or minus 2.6%.
- 19:38You see, what makes this poll different
- 19:41is that it uses AI to make the calls. It
- 19:44isn't using actual people to make the
- 19:46calls. It uses an AI voice to conduct
- 19:49the calls. Well, for one thing, it's
- 19:52less spontaneous, but for another, it
- 19:54can control the emotional tone of human
- 19:57operators that might otherwise cause
- 19:59influence, but I think the most
- 20:01important thing is what? The most
- 20:03important thing is that AI is cheaper,
- 20:05because if you use real people, you have
- 20:08to hire so many of them. Then what is
- 20:10another difference?
- 20:13Your valid sample size is 1,436, with
- 20:17only 884 landline calls and 552 mobile
- 20:22calls.
- 20:26We all know that the people who answer
- 20:28landline phones these days are generally
- 20:31older.
- 20:40Mobile phones, on the other hand, could
- 20:42be answered by older or younger people,
- 20:45so if your poll was entirely landlines,
- 20:47the people answering would almost
- 20:49certainly be elderly, which would lead
- 20:51to different results.
- 20:59You have to realize that this poll
- 21:01includes a large number of mobile phone
- 21:04users, so you know it will reach many
- 21:06younger people.
- 21:09He mentioned today that the post-debate
- 21:12poll results show 41.2%of Taipei
- 21:15citizens think Chen Bo-yang performed
- 21:18better, while 26.3%think Chiang Wan-an
- 21:21did better.
- 21:26Wow, this number of people who think
- 21:28Chen Bo-yang performed better is much
- 21:31higher than the TVBS poll, you see,
- 21:33really.
- 21:38Of course, I think it's also possible
- 21:40that Chen Bo-yang has more supporters,
- 21:42because if you are a Chen Bo-yang
- 21:44supporter, you might be biased and think
- 21:47that Chen Bo-yang is more generous and
- 21:49has a broader vision.
- 21:52It could also be Chiang Wan-an. Because
- 21:55he was being aggressive. His fierce
- 21:58momentum might actually make him
- 22:00unappealing to the general public,
- 22:02because that's just how you are. If you
- 22:05are a die-hard, deep-blue Chiang Wan-an
- 22:09supporter.
- 22:11Seeing Chiang Wan-an being so aggressive
- 22:14and sharp in the debate, regardless of
- 22:16whether he has a point or not.
- 22:22You might feel satisfied, and of course
- 22:24Chen's supporters wouldn't be happy, but
- 22:27moderate voters who aren't necessarily
- 22:30fond of Chen or Chiang might think, "
- 22:33Hmm, you're running for mayor, is this
- 22:35really okay?"
- 22:39He's the challenger, why don't you look
- 22:42like a mayor?
- 22:43Do you understand?
- 22:46This is why I think Chen Bo-yang in the
- 22:48debate...
- 22:53His strategy is, if there's a shot to
- 22:55take, I'll take it, but I'll just stop
- 22:58at the right point.
- 23:03Because I think Chen Bo-yang's TA for
- 23:06this debate, that is, the target
- 23:08audience he set, is the moderate voters
- 23:11and...
- 23:17Because if a moderate voter was already
- 23:19a supporter of Chen Bo-yang, they
- 23:21wouldn't be called a "moderate voter"
- 23:23anymore.
- 23:26"Light-blue" just means they haven't
- 23:28said they support Chen Bo-yang yet.
- 23:38So he used a non-aggressive approach, a
- 23:41very restrained, low-key, gentle, and
- 23:44rational image, which made people who
- 23:47might not have strong political or
- 23:49partisan leanings think, "Hmm,
- 23:59you look more like a mayor.
- 24:03" Second, for light blue or even
- 24:05moderate, middle-of-the-road voters—
- 24:08those between light blue and deep blue.
- 24:15When they were hesitating or resisting,
- 24:18they thought Shen Bo-yang was scary, but
- 24:21it turned out he didn't want to wipe
- 24:23them out, so I think this is Shen
- 24:26Bo-yang's...
- 24:32And in this poll, Shen Bo-yang's
- 24:35approval rating is 38.4%. The
- 24:39disapproval rating has already reached
- 24:4248.3%.
- 24:44Assuming this poll is quite accurate,
- 24:47Chiang Wan-an is truly in a very
- 24:49dangerous position, entering the "death
- 24:52zone.
- 24:56" What's even more terrifying is that in
- 25:00this poll, Shen Bo-yang's supporters
- 25:03have exceeded 50%, with 52.6%supporting
- 25:06Shen, while Chiang Wan-an has only 35.3
- 25:09%.
- 25:12This isn't about whether you debated
- 25:15well; only 41.2%thought Shen Bo-yang
- 25:17debated well, but those who want to
- 25:20support Shen Bo-yang...
- 25:25This 52.6%plus Chiang Wan-an's 35.3%is
- 25:32already 85.9%, almost 86%.
- 25:37This, of course, is for Chiang Wan-an a
- 25:41...
- 25:45In it, they also asked, "Which issues do
- 25:48you think the next mayor should
- 25:50prioritize?
- 25:52" What's the number one priority?
- 25:56Urban renewal accounts for 24.3%,
- 25:59followed by traffic, then environmental
- 26:03hygiene at 12%, education at 11.9%,
- 26:07long-term care and medical services at
- 26:109.7%, housing prices and living
- 26:14conditions at 7.5%, and public safety at
- 26:176.4%.
- 26:20So urban renewal is at 24.3%. Now let's
- 26:25look back at this. Looking at the urban
- 26:28renewal strategy, Chiang Wan-an—as the
- 26:31outgoing mayor—used a very granular
- 26:33question, asking, "Do you know about
- 26:36this or that issue regarding urban
- 26:38renewal?
- 26:40" Since Shen is the challenger, of
- 26:43course he didn't know, so in the debate
- 26:45, some people asked, "Chiang Wan-an has
- 26:48the advantage; look how prepared and
- 26:50experienced he is.
- 26:53" On the issue of urban renewal, Shen
- 26:56Bo-yang said, "The key to renewal is
- 26:58companionship, but most importantly,
- 27:01it's about starting, breaking ground,
- 27:03and completing the projects.
- 27:08" These two sentences were constantly
- 27:11mocked by blue camp supporters online,
- 27:13and even blue camp politicians used this
- 27:16as a meme to make fun of him. "
- 27:20Haha, how low-level, how stupid, what's
- 27:23this' companionship 'thing?" They even
- 27:26used this at rallies to mock Shen
- 27:29Bo-yang.
- 27:32But this is actually a bit silly.
- 27:35Why? Because the idea that the key to
- 27:39urban renewal lies in companionship is
- 27:42correct both rationally and emotionally
- 27:45. Because urban renewal is companionship
- 27:49.
- 27:49Chiang Wan-an has talked about urban
- 27:52renewal support himself, and the Taipei
- 27:54City Government also emphasizes this
- 27:56support when discussing urban renewal.
- 28:00This is professional. Because urban
- 28:03renewal involves a great number of
- 28:06administrative processes and various
- 28:08legal coordinations. What do you mean
- 28:11when you talk about "urban renewal"? Say
- 28:14you have a building with 100 households
- 28:17. Okay.
- 28:19This building is 40 or over 40 years old
- 28:22; it’s an old building.
- 28:25Furthermore, in the early days, building
- 28:28codes were less strict, so they might
- 28:31have been built more crudely.
- 28:34Secondly, it might lack parking spaces
- 28:37or elevators, and it’s likely only four
- 28:40or five stories tall.
- 28:44So, even if this building could last
- 28:46another 70 or 80 years, the residents
- 28:49have needs for elevators and parking, so
- 28:52they want to renew it.
- 28:56The question is, with these 100
- 28:59households, how do we renew it? You
- 29:02might think it's easy: just tear the
- 29:04building down and build a new one. But
- 29:06how many laws does that involve? So,
- 29:09typically, you find a developer for
- 29:11urban renewal, and the developer wants
- 29:14to make a profit. That’s why there are
- 29:16so many horror stories about urban
- 29:18renewal. And urban renewal? I’ve heard
- 29:22from friends about their urban renewal,
- 29:24what their families go through. From the
- 29:26moment they decide on urban renewal to
- 29:29the final completion and moving into the
- 29:31new home. There are many cases that take
- 29:3420 years from start to finish. Some
- 29:36people have waited 20 or 30 years and
- 29:38still haven't seen urban renewal happen
- 29:40. They wait until their parents pass
- 29:42away, the elderly parents are all gone,
- 29:45and the house still isn't done. They run
- 29:47into all sorts of difficult problems and
- 29:49can't find anyone to help, so they turn
- 29:51to city councilors, which is very
- 29:52painful. That’s why urban renewal
- 29:55support exists. This issue here. Shen
- 29:58Pao-yang is very smart; when he was
- 30:00speaking about this. After he spoke, I
- 30:03saw many people online who are
- 30:05personally involved in urban renewal
- 30:07cases speaking up themselves. Second,
- 30:10Shen said the most important things are
- 30:12the start of construction and the
- 30:14completion of construction.
- 30:16Those who don't understand urban renewal
- 30:19might think, "What kind of joke are you
- 30:21telling?""Oh, starting and finishing
- 30:23construction? Isn't that obvious? What's
- 30:25there to talk about?" Wrong. Once you
- 30:28run the urban renewal process and
- 30:29finally reach the start of construction
- 30:31, you can finally breathe a sigh of
- 30:32relief. Normally, if we buy a new house
- 30:34, two, three, or four years after
- 30:36construction starts, it should be
- 30:38finished, right? But with urban renewal
- 30:40, you’re terrified that the developer
- 30:42might run away halfway through, so
- 30:44you’re on edge until it’s finished.
- 30:47Also, with urban renewal, you have to
- 30:50move out, and this place has to be torn
- 30:53down and rebuilt.
- 30:54When you rent a place, when you move out
- 30:57, what about your rent and your life?
- 31:02That's why the three keywords—guidance,
- 31:05groundbreaking, and completion—are so
- 31:07significant to people whose homes are
- 31:10undergoing urban renewal.
- 31:14Look back at the TVBS poll and the other
- 31:17one I mentioned.
- 31:22Many people think that in terms of the
- 31:24debate, Chiang won, so why do the polls
- 31:27show Chen leading?
- 31:33Sure, you can talk about the polls, but
- 31:36I'm telling you, it's because you could
- 31:38say Chen is very shrewd.
- 31:41He’s not actually competing with you in
- 31:44the debate. He is using the debate stage
- 31:47. This setting where he appears
- 31:49alongside Chiang.
- 31:51He wants to persuade and tell the public
- 31:54, tell the people.
- 31:57Please trust me. I understand you. I
- 32:00will stand with you. Don't be afraid of
- 32:04me. You know what I mean? He's doing
- 32:07this while Chiang Wan-an says, "I'll
- 32:09help you, I'll provide for you," but
- 32:12Chen is saying, "Look at me." I speak
- 32:15like a mayor. I have the stature of a
- 32:18mayor. So please vote for me. These two
- 32:22have completely different strategies.
- 32:24But I want to remind Chen. The key to
- 32:28urban renewal isn't just guidance,
- 32:30groundbreaking, and completion; even
- 32:32more important is the distribution of
- 32:35benefits. Whenever urban renewal stalls
- 32:37, it's due to uneven distribution.
- 32:40Developers want to make more money. If
- 32:42they make more, the original residents
- 32:45get fleeced. There are also conflicts
- 32:48among the residents themselves. For
- 32:51example, I'm used to living on the
- 32:53second floor; it's comfortable and
- 32:55convenient.
- 32:57So after the renewal, I still want to
- 33:00live on the second floor, right?
- 33:03Also, think about how valuable the
- 33:05original storefronts are; the older the
- 33:08building, the more valuable the
- 33:10storefront. Do you know why? An old
- 33:13building means an important commercial
- 33:15district has already formed nearby. The
- 33:18rent for that storefront might be
- 33:20hundreds of thousands a month. Or they
- 33:23might be running their own business
- 33:25there. They could be making millions a
- 33:27month, so if I move out for urban
- 33:29renewal and come back in four years, I
- 33:31can't operate during those four years.
- 33:34I'd lose tens or hundreds of millions.
- 33:37What am I supposed to do? Even if I
- 33:40return, will my customers still come
- 33:43back?
- 33:43That's why urban renewal often gets
- 33:46stuck: residents upstairs want it for
- 33:49the elevators and parking, but the
- 33:51ground-floor shops don't.
- 33:54So, there is an uneven distribution of
- 33:56benefits between the residents.
- 33:59Furthermore, I live in an apartment now
- 34:03, 30 pings, because the common area was
- 34:06small back then, maybe only 10%or 15%,
- 34:10but now common areas are 30%to over 30%
- 34:14. So the residents say, "I still want a
- 34:16one-to-one swap; I live in 30 pings now
- 34:18, and when the new building is built, I
- 34:21still want that, so where will the
- 34:23elevator space come from?" Next. Oh, and
- 34:26I also need a parking space; if there's
- 34:29no parking space, then why should I
- 34:31agree to the urban renewal?
- 34:33So the residents' expectations and
- 34:35demands are a one-to-one swap with a
- 34:38parking space, but where will that extra
- 34:41required floor space come from?
- 34:44And if it takes four years to build,
- 34:47that's 48 months, and Taipei rent is
- 34:50expensive, so where am I supposed to
- 34:52rent a place for 48 months? Can you
- 34:56cover all of my rent money? This is
- 34:58where the trouble with urban renewal
- 35:00lies; the key to urban renewal is the
- 35:02distribution of benefits. It's hard to
- 35:04satisfy everyone, as each person wants
- 35:06something different. Right.
- 35:14Some media commentators say that given
- 35:16the current situation, Shen Po-yang and
- 35:19the DPP are low-key about the polls
- 35:21because they might have the advantage
- 35:23but don't want to say it, while the
- 35:26Chiang camp and the KMT might be at a
- 35:28disadvantage and also don't want to talk
- 35:31about it.
- 35:34So both the winners and the losers don't
- 35:37want to talk, leading to this eerie,
- 35:40strange state. But because the KMT
- 35:43originally had a large rally scheduled
- 35:46for November 8th, it has now been
- 35:48canceled.
- 35:50So commentator Wu Kun-yu, Brother Wu,
- 35:53asked why this is happening. It can be
- 35:56viewed from two points.
- 35:59First, you have to mobilize, you have to
- 36:02hold a rally, you need people.
- 36:07But for that rally at Dunhua Junior High
- 36:10, that mobilization—you booked the
- 36:12school, set up a stage, brought people
- 36:15in by bus—you spent millions, maybe ten
- 36:18million, how much money did you spend?
- 36:21And how many people did you actually
- 36:24mobilize? A few thousand. Of course, you
- 36:27can claim 50,000 people, but everyone
- 36:29knows how many people can actually fit
- 36:31in the Dunhua Junior High playground.
- 36:33And second, if the momentum isn't good,
- 36:35when you try to mobilize a lot of people
- 36:37, many local organizers will feel, "Oh,
- 36:39this is a hassle." So if you can't turn
- 36:41people out, it doesn't look good. And if
- 36:43you try to compete with Shen Po-yang's
- 36:46events. You can't keep up. October 31st
- 36:50. In the Zhongzheng-Wanhua area, there
- 36:52was a campaign vehicle parade.
- 36:54Zhongzheng District leans blue, Wanhua
- 36:57leans green, and finally at Longshan
- 36:59Temple, if you look at the aerial
- 37:01footage. You can see the streets crowded
- 37:04.
- 37:08When you see the emotions of the people
- 37:10standing on the roadside during the
- 37:12vehicle parade, I believe every camp is
- 37:15watching that.
- 37:19That kind of enthusiasm is something the
- 37:21Blue camp doesn't have right now.
- 37:25Then on Sunday, November 1st, it was
- 37:28Daan and Wenshan, which are very deep
- 37:31Blue.
- 37:33But look, he drove for three hours,
- 37:36through Daan District, into Wenshan
- 37:38District, reaching Muzha, and then
- 37:41looped back to Daan Forest Park. Oh, you
- 37:44look at those aerial shots, the number
- 37:47of people on-site was probably even
- 37:49higher than the day before.
- 37:52If the KMT wants to hold a rally, can
- 37:54you match that same momentum and that
- 37:57same turnout?
- 37:59The online livestream had over 100,000
- 38:02viewers, so if you can't compare to that
- 38:05, you'll look bad.
- 38:07The second factor is money; you have to
- 38:10spend money to mobilize for rallies.
- 38:13Many of Shen Boyang's events you see are
- 38:15not mobilized, but for KMT events, you
- 38:18need tour buses and all sorts of things
- 38:21, so you have to spend that money. Last
- 38:23year, the KMT spent a lot of money in
- 38:26Daan, and then on July 25th of this year
- 38:29, they suddenly held another rally and
- 38:32mobilized, costing at least tens of
- 38:35millions. So if you spend money now and
- 38:38can't turn people out, isn't that a lack
- 38:41of intelligence?
- 38:43It would be better to save those
- 38:45resources and energy to spend right
- 38:47before the election.
- 38:49So it might be like this, and media
- 38:51figures have come out to reveal, what
- 38:54exactly is the Chiang camp's goal? Why
- 38:57is the Chiang camp's current strategy
- 39:00focused entirely on their core deep-Blue
- 39:03base? You can clearly see that they are
- 39:05not trying to expand outward; their
- 39:07appeal isn't directed at
- 39:09middle-of-the-road voters, or even
- 39:11light-Green voters. Shen Boyang is
- 39:13targeting middle-of-the-road voters and
- 39:15the Green base. Ideally, Chiang Wan-an
- 39:17should also be targeting
- 39:19middle-of-the-road and light-Green
- 39:21voters, but he isn't; he's constantly
- 39:24guarding his own core base.
- 39:27And the harder you guard your core base
- 39:30, the more likely you are to lose
- 39:32middle-of-the-road voters.
- 39:37Let's take a look, including the Pride
- 39:40Parade; Chiang Wan-an went, and Boyang
- 39:43also went, but Chiang left after only 15
- 39:45minutes.
- 39:47And Chiang Wan-an now keeps talking
- 39:49about Nvidia, the Taipei Dome, and fresh
- 39:52milk—Nvidia, milk, and the Taipei Dome,
- 39:54right? Come on. He says it at every
- 39:57event he goes to; that's what Chiang
- 39:58Wan-an talked about at three events
- 40:00yesterday. He talks about it at every
- 40:02event he attends to help city councilors
- 40:04, so let's take a listen.
- 40:06>> We completed the opening of the Taipei
- 40:08Dome, allowing us to host baseball games
- 40:11and concerts.
- 40:13Everyone doesn't have to go abroad to
- 40:15see performances; we have completed our
- 40:18efforts to bring Nvidia to settle in the
- 40:20Beitou-Shilin Technology Park, right?
- 40:22>> Right.
- 40:23>> Thousands of job opportunities, and
- 40:26laying the foundation for Taipei's AI
- 40:28technology development in the future.
- 40:30>> I think, whether it's the smooth
- 40:32completion of the Taipei Dome, hosting
- 40:35baseball games, officially holding
- 40:37concerts, and welcoming many superstars
- 40:40to Taipei.
- 40:44Overcoming various difficulties, beating
- 40:47many international cities, and also
- 40:49winning over many counties and cities in
- 40:52Taiwan, we finally solved the land
- 40:55rights issue, allowing NVIDIA to
- 40:57successfully settle in Taipei. Pushing
- 40:59for many major constructions; on one
- 41:02hand, speaking of the Taipei Dome, I
- 41:04have even deeper expectations for it.
- 41:07After we completed and opened it to host
- 41:08baseball games, I want to report to you
- 41:10that the Taiwan Series has been held at
- 41:12the Taipei Dome for three consecutive
- 41:13years, and we have welcomed over 4
- 41:15million spectators. Of course, what's
- 41:17more important is the concern over
- 41:18holding concerts. With the city
- 41:20government team, we overcame various
- 41:22challenges, including engineering,
- 41:23safety, and fire prevention, so we made
- 41:25a breakthrough; now we can hold concerts
- 41:27, and everyone can see superstars from
- 41:29around the world without going abroad,
- 41:30right? With difficulty, NVIDIA
- 41:32successfully settled in Taipei. Is
- 41:35everyone happy?
- 41:36>> We not only won the international
- 41:37competition, beating major global cities
- 41:39, but we also outperformed other cities
- 41:41in Taiwan. Most importantly, at the very
- 41:43last moment, we overcame and resolved
- 41:44the land rights issue, which allowed
- 41:46NVIDIA to successfully settle in the
- 41:47Beitou-Shilin Technology Park. So, for
- 41:49our future with tens of thousands of
- 41:51high-paying jobs and at least 40 billion
- 41:53in investment, we are putting Taipei at
- 41:55the forefront of technological
- 41:56development and leading the continuous
- 41:58growth of Taipei's tech industry.
- 42:04This.
- 42:09The Taipei Dome was promoted when Ma
- 42:11Ying-jeou was mayor because people in
- 42:13Taiwan kept asking why there wasn't an
- 42:16indoor dome for playing baseball.
- 42:21We only had outdoor fields that were
- 42:23affected by the weather. So Taipei had
- 42:25to find a piece of land for the Dome,
- 42:28and it was originally intended to be in
- 42:30Guandu. However, the Taipei City
- 42:32Government later decided that Guandu was
- 42:34too remote, even though it is still in
- 42:36Taipei City. They wanted to place it in
- 42:38the city center; is this decision right
- 42:40or wrong? I don't know. I personally
- 42:43think it should have been in Guandu.
- 42:46Because the Dome is too central.
- 42:50Secondly, I do not approve of Ma
- 42:52Ying-jeou's approach. I believe the
- 42:55Taipei Dome should have been built by
- 42:57Taipei City itself. After building it,
- 42:59you could outsource the management to
- 43:01others, check every year how well the
- 43:04contractor is doing, and since you
- 43:06retain ownership at all times, you can
- 43:08take it back if needed.
- 43:11Sorry, Ma Ying-jeou made a decision back
- 43:14then that I consider a mistake.
- 43:21He took the Taipei Dome site, located in
- 43:23the prime, diamond-tier district of the
- 43:26city—the most valuable piece of public
- 43:29land in Taipei—and put it up for a BOT
- 43:32tender.
- 43:38He told the winning developer, "Here’s
- 43:41the land, go build the dome, and you get
- 43:43all the operating rights for 40 or 50
- 43:46years.
- 43:49" And Taipei City lost all operational
- 43:52control. But the truth is, the land
- 43:54itself is the most valuable part, not
- 43:57just building a dome. The construction
- 43:59costs weren't as high as the value of
- 44:01the land. Taipei City wasn't poor or
- 44:04short on funds, so why? Why not just
- 44:06fund it yourself? That’s why I have
- 44:08serious doubts about Ma Ying-jeou
- 44:10regarding this matter. However, it was
- 44:12still Ma Ying-jeou who made the final
- 44:14decision and had the audacity to build
- 44:16the Taipei Dome. We must be fair when
- 44:19weighing merits and faults. Ma Ying-jeou
- 44:21does deserve credit for initiating the
- 44:24Taipei Dome. But he didn't build it
- 44:27himself. You handed over 40 to 50 years
- 44:30of operating rights to Farglory—that was
- 44:34a fault. And furthermore, there was an
- 44:37issue with the contract.
- 44:41You gave so many concessions to Farglory
- 44:44that they hardly had to share any
- 44:46profits with Taipei City; is that
- 44:48reasonable?
- 44:54That’s why the Taipei City Finance
- 44:56Commissioner at the time, Lee Shu-te,
- 44:59was indicted for graft and even
- 45:01sentenced to nine years in the first
- 45:03trial.
- 45:06So, one merit and two faults for Ma
- 45:09Ying-jeou.
- 45:12Now, Farglory’s Taipei Dome hosts
- 45:15baseball games and concerts, and they
- 45:17were allowed to build office buildings
- 45:20on the side.
- 45:23Office towers, hotels, and all the rest
- 45:26—Farglory takes all those profits. It
- 45:29was all awarded as an incentive for them
- 45:32.
- 45:34If you do the math, the value of the
- 45:37land far exceeds Farglory’s construction
- 45:41costs, yet 99.9%—or maybe 95%—of the
- 45:45Taipei Dome’s profits go to Farglory.
- 45:51What did the Taipei City Government get
- 45:54? This is what people are questioning.
- 45:56But Ma Ying-jeou still deserves some
- 45:58credit. Later, it passed to Hau Lung-bin
- 46:01, and Hau had a miserable time. Because
- 46:04he wasn't the one who signed that
- 46:06contract. Then Ko Wen-je took over and
- 46:08kept criticizing it, calling the Taipei
- 46:10Dome a corrupt case, one of the "five
- 46:13major corrupt cases." After Ko Wen-je
- 46:15took office, he initially ordered
- 46:17Farglory to stop construction. Then,
- 46:20inexplicably, it resumed, and eventually
- 46:24it reached Chiang Wan-an.
- 46:27Politics really is a relay race; you
- 46:30shouldn't claim everyone else's work as
- 46:33your own. This goes back to Ma Ying-jeou
- 46:35and Hau Lung-bin. Even if Ko Wen-je was
- 46:37terrible, he at least oversaw the
- 46:39construction and subsequent stoppages.
- 46:40But now look at the roof of the Taipei
- 46:42Dome leaking. And the rats in the Taipei
- 46:44Dome. What do you have to say about this
- 46:47? City administration—many of the basic
- 46:50ABCs of city governance.
- 46:56Last week, I promised everyone that
- 46:58because at the Taipei Design Awards
- 47:01ceremony at the Grand Hyatt, the video—
- 47:03that Taipei Design Awards video—
- 47:06actually used non-copyrighted audio,
- 47:08which is why you heard that "
- 47:10AudioJungle, AudioJungle" AI voice.
- 47:16Let's take a listen. Back then, wait,
- 47:19wait, when he was criticized, he just
- 47:21said, "Oh, that was the vendor's
- 47:23oversight because they were testing it
- 47:26in the morning," and so on. But then it
- 47:29was revealed that, actually, no. You did
- 47:31the same thing in 2025, using the same
- 47:33tape without paying for the rights. Why
- 47:35did you do it for two years in a row?
- 47:37What are you playing at? This is a basic
- 47:41SOP. How could you mess up something so
- 47:44fundamental? Let's take a listen:
- 47:47AudioJungle.
- 47:50J
- 48:15And well, look at that, two years in a
- 48:18row.
- 48:20How could you make the same mistake two
- 48:23years in a row? Now, let's hear what the
- 48:25Commissioner of the Department of
- 48:26Economic Development has to say. He came
- 48:28out to speak for the vendor. First, he
- 48:31shifted the blame, saying it was the
- 48:33vendor's fault, and then he immediately
- 48:35started defending them. He didn't hold
- 48:37the vendor accountable at all. Two years
- 48:39in a row, mind you. Let's hear what he
- 48:42says.
- 48:43Because when they were fine-tuning the
- 48:45video in the morning, they downloaded
- 48:47the trial version.
- 48:50The audio file that played was the trial
- 48:53version, not the full version that had
- 48:55the copyright fees paid.
- 48:58We have requested that the vendor
- 49:00conduct an immediate review.
- 49:03That should be—you simply cannot have
- 49:06this happen.
- 49:10No normal person can understand how this
- 49:13could occur, let alone happen
- 49:15consecutively.
- 49:18Then, as the competent authority, the
- 49:21Taipei City Government's Department of
- 49:23Economic Development, you are the ones
- 49:26who issued the contract. Yet, you are so
- 49:29protective of the vendor, rushing to
- 49:31make excuses for them. First, you failed
- 49:34to supervise properly; second, you
- 49:37condoned it; third, you even went on to
- 49:40defend them. What is this? This is
- 49:43absolutely disgraceful. The Taipei
- 49:47Design Awards. For those of you who work
- 49:49in original content and design, what is
- 49:52it that you hate the most? It's when
- 49:54people don't respect your copyright. Yet
- 49:56, you've spent two consecutive years
- 49:58stealing and using non-copyrighted
- 50:01tracks. How can you claim to have any
- 50:03respect?
- 50:06Second, during the debate, the mayor
- 50:09talked about issues like child abuse,
- 50:12about how he does this and that, and how
- 50:14he supposedly protects children.
- 50:20And that he met with the parents right
- 50:22away.
- 50:29I also met with the parents at the City
- 50:31Council, but the truth is, Mayor Chiang
- 50:33was there to be questioned, and he was
- 50:36cornered by the parents on the way, so
- 50:38he had no choice but to meet them.
- 50:45Everyone remembers the Kai-kai case.
- 50:50After it happened, the Taipei City
- 50:52Council originally proposed to hold a
- 50:55briefing, requiring the Mayor to attend
- 50:57and report on how it was handled and to
- 51:00be questioned by councilors.
- 51:05However, the KMT chapter chair at the
- 51:08time, Huang Chin-ju, issued a party
- 51:10disciplinary order forbidding KMT
- 51:12councilors from attending the meeting,
- 51:15threatening them with disciplinary
- 51:17action or denying them future
- 51:19nominations if they dared to show up.
- 51:23As a result, there was a lack of quorum
- 51:26, because the DPP councilors did not
- 51:28hold a majority in the Council. Without
- 51:30a majority, of course, the session
- 51:33couldn't proceed.
- 51:34So, in the end, the meeting fell through
- 51:37.
- 51:39After the meeting was declared adjourned
- 51:42by Speaker Tai Hsi, it was turned into a
- 51:44discussion session.
- 51:48A discussion session just means
- 51:50councilors can come out to talk, but the
- 51:52Mayor doesn't have to be questioned or
- 51:55face scrutiny.
- 51:58Only after it became a discussion
- 52:00session did Huang Chin-ju allow KMT
- 52:03councilors to enter the Council chamber
- 52:05.
- 52:09So, did the Taipei City Government hold
- 52:12any internal meetings regarding the
- 52:14Kai-kai case?
- 52:17They did.
- 52:19But. The Mayor said.
- 52:36No. Another thing about Kai-kai is that
- 52:39Kai-kai represents the very bottom of
- 52:42our society.
- 52:52If.
- 52:56If our government needs to protect the
- 52:59people, those most in need of protection
- 53:02are people like Kai-kai.
- 53:10But clearly, for many people, the
- 53:12interests of politicians and political
- 53:15parties outweigh the interests of the
- 53:18people; if anything is unfavorable to
- 53:20these politicians or parties, then.
- 53:26A single human life cannot be reviewed.
- 53:30Because you are reviewing it within the
- 53:33City Council. It’s not about messing
- 53:36around online, and it’s not about
- 53:39sensationalist headlines, no.
- 53:42It is about where the process of the
- 53:45City Government went wrong, reviewing it
- 53:47with sincerity; no one is targeting any
- 53:50specific party, we are talking about
- 53:52this poor little baby, Kai-kai.
- 53:58Even though we couldn't save him in time
- 54:00, we must prevent a second Kai-kai from
- 54:03appearing in the future.
- 54:07And nothing.
- 54:09It just faded away.
- 54:13Then, later, many cases of child abuse
- 54:15in kindergartens occurred, and the City
- 54:18Government would not meet with the
- 54:20parents.
- 54:21The Mayor would not meet with the
- 54:23parents, yet during the debate, the
- 54:25Mayor even boasted, bringing it up to
- 54:27brag about how well he handled the child
- 54:29abuse cases and how he supposedly met
- 54:31with the parents immediately.
- 54:36I am not criticizing now; I am analyzing
- 54:39why, in terms of debate skills, Chiang
- 54:42Wan-an seemed to have the upper hand,
- 54:44yet why did the citizens who watched the
- 54:47debate think Shen Po-yang performed
- 54:49better?
- 54:54Next, Po-yang Lin.
- 55:02They claimed the city government
- 55:04collected bio-evidence immediately,
- 55:06ensuring Polam couldn't escape and
- 55:08families would be compensated.
- 55:13Do you remember the Polam incident?
- 55:16It was in a bustling, high-end
- 55:18department store food court in Taipei's
- 55:21Xinyi District, not some street stall.
- 55:25Oh.
- 55:33The food safety incident at Polam Tea
- 55:36Room caused six deaths and 29 illnesses
- 55:39; people just ate a plate of kway teow
- 55:42and died.
- 55:47Yet the mayor came out saying, "We
- 55:50collected bio-evidence immediately," but
- 55:53the truth is...
- 55:57The Control Yuan investigated the matter
- 56:00. The Control Yuan issued a reprimand to
- 56:02the Taipei City Government. See? This is
- 56:05why they want to abolish the Control
- 56:08Yuan. Because they were reprimanded by
- 56:11them.
- 56:15The reprimand stated that the Taipei
- 56:17City Government received reports on
- 56:20March 24th and knew patients were
- 56:22already ill.
- 56:26They were hospitalized.
- 56:28Yet they failed to initiate a preventive
- 56:31removal of items immediately. They
- 56:34didn't seal the food ingredients.
- 56:37Two things here.
- 56:40They did collect evidence.
- 56:46But they didn't do a preventive
- 56:48withdrawal of ingredients nor seal them
- 56:51.
- 56:55And the inspectors didn't arrive until
- 56:58the evening.
- 57:00Patients were already hospitalized, yet
- 57:03inspectors didn't show up until the
- 57:05evening.
- 57:08This led to eight more unsuspecting
- 57:10members of the public eating there that
- 57:13day and getting poisoned.
- 57:16People were already in the hospital, yet
- 57:19they let others continue, and the city
- 57:21knew—if they hadn't known, they might be
- 57:24excused. And then you go to collect
- 57:27evidence.
- 57:28You missed the key evidence because you
- 57:31didn't seal the ingredients.
- 57:35So the sampling was flawed.
- 57:43Then...
- 57:46Finally, the Ministry of Health and
- 57:49Welfare went in to collect evidence
- 57:51three days later on the 27th.
- 57:55Of course, they eventually tested
- 57:57positive for bongkrek acid on the chef's
- 58:00hands.
- 58:01But the chef's hands didn't just appear
- 58:04out of nowhere.
- 58:07They didn't know which ingredient was
- 58:09the problem—whether it was the kway teow
- 58:12, the wood ear mushrooms, or what, they
- 58:15didn't know.
- 58:18So your city government handled it
- 58:20poorly, you were reprimanded by the
- 58:23Control Yuan, yet you still boast about
- 58:26yourself.
- 58:30The second point is even more ridiculous
- 58:33; you see his confident, 100-point
- 58:36speech, saying, "I ensured Polam
- 58:38couldn't escape and families could get
- 58:41compensation.
- 58:47" But that is a lie.
- 58:51Lying from start to finish.
- 58:55Because you let Polam escape.
- 59:07You didn't move early to freeze Polam's
- 59:10assets, you let them divest, you let
- 59:13them escape, and what happened?
- 59:22Among the six who died, a close friend
- 59:25of a victim was furious and devastated.
- 59:29They posted online saying Polam had long
- 59:32since divested their assets and didn't
- 59:34pay a single cent.
- 59:37The compensation the families received
- 59:40was paid by others, not Polam; Polam
- 59:42didn't pay a dime.
- 59:48A friend of a victim said that his
- 59:50kindest classmate unfortunately passed
- 59:53away in this food safety incident, and
- 59:55after watching the debate, he felt
- 59:58extremely angry and indignant.
- 1:00:02He said that after the incident, Polam
- 1:00:05had already transferred their assets.
- 1:00:07Compulsory liability insurance, because
- 1:00:10you operate a restaurant.
- 1:00:15You are required to have compulsory
- 1:00:17liability insurance, yet Polam's policy
- 1:00:20had expired and wasn't renewed.
- 1:00:26The Taipei City Government had no grasp
- 1:00:29of the situation beforehand, made no
- 1:00:32demands, and failed to supervise
- 1:00:34properly.
- 1:00:38So, the families of the victims did not
- 1:00:41receive a single cent from the
- 1:00:43perpetrator, but the families of the six
- 1:00:45people who unfortunately passed away did
- 1:00:48receive compensation—where did that come
- 1:00:51from?
- 1:00:55The first sum came from the department
- 1:00:57store where the food court is located,
- 1:00:59which is Far Eastern Department Store.
- 1:01:06As a department store, they had property
- 1:01:08insurance, so through private mediation
- 1:01:11, they reached a settlement and paid a
- 1:01:13private settlement fee.
- 1:01:20It was paid by the department store's
- 1:01:22insurance company.
- 1:01:25Polam's shop had let its insurance
- 1:01:28expire.
- 1:01:29They transferred their own assets and
- 1:01:31didn't pay a single cent.
- 1:01:34The second sum the families received
- 1:01:36came from the central government.
- 1:01:40The central government has a budget for
- 1:01:42this.
- 1:01:43It’s called the Association for Victims
- 1:01:46of Crime.
- 1:01:48Under the national mechanism, they
- 1:01:50issued crime victim compensation funds.
- 1:01:54This is because they treated this food
- 1:01:56safety issue as a criminal case.
- 1:02:00They used these funds to pay them.
- 1:02:04Wait, I don't know—what if it turns out
- 1:02:07later that this isn't a criminal case?
- 1:02:11I’m sorry, I don't know.
- 1:02:15Regardless, the first sum was from the
- 1:02:17department store, and the second was the
- 1:02:20victim compensation fund.
- 1:02:22So, as this friend said, one part came
- 1:02:24from the private sector, one from the
- 1:02:27state, and absolutely nothing was paid
- 1:02:29by Polam. So he is very, very
- 1:02:36Alright, there’s more to discuss, so
- 1:02:38we’ll continue tomorrow, but I’d like to
- 1:02:41play something. Didn't we just talk
- 1:02:44about NVIDIA?
- 1:02:45They keep talking about NVIDIA, saying "
- 1:02:48we kept NVIDIA in Taipei," but NVIDIA
- 1:02:51already had a company with 2,000 people
- 1:02:54in Nangang, Taipei.
- 1:02:57NVIDIA was looking for a larger plot of
- 1:02:59land to build their headquarters, and
- 1:03:01they wanted to be in Taipei from the
- 1:03:03very beginning. It’s not that you kept
- 1:03:06NVIDIA in Taipei. The key to that land
- 1:03:09is Shin Kong Life Insurance. It’s
- 1:03:12because of Ko Wen-je.
- 1:03:14He sold that land at a low price to Shin
- 1:03:17Kong Life; in the end, the central
- 1:03:19government and tech moguls all went to
- 1:03:22persuade them, and the Taiwanese public
- 1:03:24was furious, thinking if they blocked
- 1:03:27the land and kept NVIDIA from staying,
- 1:03:29everyone would hold them accountable, so
- 1:03:32finally, Shin Kong let it go. Yet you
- 1:03:34keep insisting it’s your achievement.
- 1:03:38They even claim that you and your spouse
- 1:03:40know engineers at NVIDIA and went to
- 1:03:43find Jensen Huang.
- 1:03:45Why was there originally a 2,000-person
- 1:03:49NVIDIA office in Nangang, Taipei? Why?
- 1:03:54Because the government used billions
- 1:03:56from the Forward-looking Infrastructure
- 1:03:59Development Program to subsidize NVIDIA
- 1:04:01and lure them here to set up offices.
- 1:04:07This credit doesn't belong to Taipei
- 1:04:09City; from the very beginning, when
- 1:04:12NVIDIA came to Taipei, the credit wasn't
- 1:04:15Taipei's.
- 1:04:17It was the Ministry of Economic Affairs
- 1:04:20.
- 1:04:22It was central government funding that
- 1:04:24provided the subsidies.
- 1:04:27And what happened? Lee Si-chuan even
- 1:04:30went to New Taipei City. He said, "Oh,
- 1:04:33don't be angry, I will also bring NVIDIA
- 1:04:37to Luzhou." Is NVIDIA a 7-Eleven or a
- 1:04:41Costco?
- 1:04:46Why would NVIDIA want to go to...
- 1:05:00Bring NVIDIA to Luzhou?
- 1:05:09Honestly, if we speak frankly, this
- 1:05:11won't benefit Lee Si-chuan's election,
- 1:05:14because you need to understand what the
- 1:05:16people of Luzhou actually care about
- 1:05:19right now.
- 1:05:22His saying this only shows that he
- 1:05:24doesn't understand at all what the
- 1:05:26people of Luzhou want. He really needs
- 1:05:28to hurry up and propose policies that
- 1:05:30resonate with the people of Luzhou,
- 1:05:32policies that make them feel something.
- 1:05:34What you're saying now is meaningless.
- 1:05:37NVIDIA in Taipei isn't your achievement
- 1:05:39, Lee Si-chuan. As an administrative
- 1:05:41official and Deputy Mayor, helping with
- 1:05:44coordination is just your job. Now
- 1:05:46you're throwing "NVIDIA" into the Luzhou
- 1:05:48discussion, which won't help your
- 1:05:50election. Now, let's look at Kaohsiung.
- 1:05:53In Kaohsiung, we have Ke Chih-en from
- 1:05:55the KMT and Lai Jui-lung from the DPP.
- 1:05:58Recently, there was a Taiwan volunteer
- 1:06:00firefighter assembly over the weekend.
- 1:06:02What does "Yi Xiao" mean? Volunteer
- 1:06:06firefighters.
- 1:06:08Wang Jin-pyng is a major supporter of
- 1:06:10the volunteer firefighters.
- 1:06:13The volunteer firefighters all respect
- 1:06:16Wang Jin-pyng. Since the assembly was
- 1:06:19held in Kaohsiung, wouldn't Wang
- 1:06:21Jin-pyng go on stage? Kaohsiung Mayor
- 1:06:23Chen Chi-mai went on stage, along with
- 1:06:26others. Since they are Kaohsiung
- 1:06:28legislators, they naturally invited Lai
- 1:06:30Jui-lung on stage as well. And you, Ke
- 1:06:32Chih-en, should also have gone on stage
- 1:06:34; you are a legislator too, after all.
- 1:06:36But Ke Chih-en didn't go up. She didn't
- 1:06:39want to stand with Lai Jui-lung. Wang
- 1:06:41Jin-pyng was about to sing, you know,
- 1:06:44the volunteer firefighter anthem, "You
- 1:06:46are my brother, you are my brother."
- 1:06:49Wang Jin-pyng was happily ready to sing
- 1:06:52, but Ke Chih-en called him down.
- 1:06:55She dragged him off.
- 1:06:57In the end, Wang Jin-pyng sang off-stage
- 1:07:00, and Ke Chih-en and the others stood
- 1:07:02together.
- 1:07:04Everyone, take a look at this scene. Is
- 1:07:07this good or bad? Come, let's take a
- 1:07:10look.
- 1:07:11Former Legislative Yuan President Wang
- 1:07:13Jin-pyng, serving as the honorary chief
- 1:07:15of the volunteer firefighters, attended
- 1:07:17the Kaohsiung Volunteer Firefighter
- 1:07:19Corps gratitude banquet. He was happily
- 1:07:21singing on stage with everyone, but
- 1:07:23unexpectedly, the process was
- 1:07:25interrupted.
- 1:07:26>> KMT Kaohsiung mayoral candidate Ke
- 1:07:28Chih-en and party councilors stepped
- 1:07:31forward to whisper in Wang Jin-pyng’s
- 1:07:33ear, then immediately led him off the
- 1:07:36stage, leaving Speaker Wang Jin-pyng on
- 1:07:38stage.
- 1:07:39>> Wang Jin-pyng seemed unaffected,
- 1:07:41continuing to sing along with a
- 1:07:43microphone off-stage, finally showing
- 1:07:45his statesman-like grace by shaking
- 1:07:48hands with Green camp candidate Lai
- 1:07:50Jui-lung and Kaohsiung Mayor Chen
- 1:07:52Chi-mai.
- 1:07:52>> Alright, alright, everyone can interpret
- 1:07:55it however they like. Okay, I...
- 1:07:59OP9266, thanks for the tip. "Sister,
- 1:08:02your volume is very low." The sound
- 1:08:05shouldn't have anything to do with the
- 1:08:06internet, it's probably your settings.
- 1:08:08Strange, I haven't changed my settings.
- 1:08:10OK, OK, fine. Coming to 0604, thanks for
- 1:08:14the donation. The three stages: the
- 1:08:15prince phase, the high-handed phase, and
- 1:08:17the "bad boy" phase. The prince phase is
- 1:08:19when votes are highest, the high-handed
- 1:08:21phase is when they are lowest, and the "
- 1:08:23bad boy" phase is just returning to the
- 1:08:25base. Hey, I think you're quite an
- 1:08:27expert; he’s focusing on the base right
- 1:08:30now. What is the purpose of focusing on
- 1:08:32the base? If you only focus on the base
- 1:08:35, it means you're giving up on the
- 1:08:37moderate voters. That is just hoping the
- 1:08:39base doesn't collapse.
- 1:08:42What you’re aiming for now isn't
- 1:08:45necessarily over 50%, but everyone needs
- 1:08:47to be aware that all our analyses and
- 1:08:50discussions here don't represent the
- 1:08:52actual voting results.
- 1:08:55Who really wins or loses will only be
- 1:08:58known on November 28th. Right. Then 5477
- 1:09:02says if they win by 20%, I can travel
- 1:09:05with peace of mind. On one side, the DPP
- 1:09:08is talking about "fear of victory." They
- 1:09:11even formed a "Fear of Victory
- 1:09:13Association" where everyone reminds each
- 1:09:16other to fear winning. And on the Blue
- 1:09:18camp side, they’re saying "we won't lose
- 1:09:20, we won't lose.""A big victory, a great
- 1:09:23victory." 3632, there are quite a few 40
- 1:09:26-year-old buildings in Taipei and New
- 1:09:28Taipei, and even more that are 50 or 60
- 1:09:30years old. So many old houses are being
- 1:09:33renovated one after another, floor by
- 1:09:35floor. Yes. "Congratulations to Sister
- 1:09:37Xian for remembering the Wenlin Yuan
- 1:09:39incident." I remember, I remember the
- 1:09:41Wang family. Yes. Ah, Coco. If you run
- 1:09:45into holdout residents, don't even think
- 1:09:47about urban renewal. Last time, with
- 1:09:49this Wenlin Yuan incident, Hau Lung-bin
- 1:09:52had a miserable time. It was about urban
- 1:09:55renewal back then, but there were
- 1:09:57holdout residents who refused because
- 1:09:59they felt they weren't getting enough.
- 1:10:02They actually got quite a lot, but they
- 1:10:05thought they could get more, so they
- 1:10:07kept blocking it. Eventually, many NGOs
- 1:10:10came out to help. NGOs came out to help
- 1:10:13, and of course, some NGOs that leaned
- 1:10:16Green at the time used this to attack
- 1:10:19Hau Lung-bin.
- 1:10:22And these NGOs...These NGOs also teamed
- 1:10:25up with Ko Wen-je, who was running for
- 1:10:28mayor at the time.
- 1:10:30Understand? So, many things—why does
- 1:10:33politics sometimes get so dirty? It's
- 1:10:37because it's not easy to clearly explain
- 1:10:39the rights and wrongs in politics, but
- 1:10:42it is very easy to sway public opinion
- 1:10:44on political events, and most people
- 1:10:47won't get to the bottom of it. It then
- 1:10:49forms a subconscious and fixed
- 1:10:52impression. So many people maliciously
- 1:10:54use clickbait to assassinate character
- 1:10:56on the internet, calling a deer a horse
- 1:10:59to distort the truth, and steering
- 1:11:01public opinion to hurt those who are
- 1:11:03actually getting things done. I think
- 1:11:05Hau Lung-bin was really quite something
- 1:11:08regarding the Wenlin Yuan urban renewal
- 1:11:10case. As for the Wenlin Yuan case, maybe
- 1:11:13we can find some time to discuss it
- 1:11:15properly another day. But actually, it
- 1:11:17also has to do with the audience. They
- 1:11:20don't want to get to the bottom of
- 1:11:22things, and many in the media just chase
- 1:11:24the trending topics.
- 1:11:28If we really want to discuss an issue,
- 1:11:30we have to get to the root of it and
- 1:11:33untangle the complexities, but that's
- 1:11:35often no longer a hot topic, so politics
- 1:11:38often ends up encouraging the bad guys.
- 1:11:43Excuse me. It encourages the bad guys.
- 1:11:46It encourages bad money to drive out
- 1:11:49good. Li Li-li said he could memorize
- 1:11:51other scripts, so some people sympathize
- 1:11:53with Dai Chi-chin, because he has to
- 1:11:55follow him around and hear the same
- 1:11:57things several times a day. I corrected
- 1:11:58the name; the other day someone asked
- 1:12:00who actually started the free milk
- 1:12:02policy that Huang Wei-che supposedly
- 1:12:04copied. Let's talk about that tomorrow.
- 1:12:08No, he didn't say he copied the free
- 1:12:10milk, he said it was the nutritional
- 1:12:13lunch program. Huang Wei-che followed
- 1:12:16suit.
- 1:12:17This gets complicated and can't be
- 1:12:19explained in one sentence; Huang Wei-che
- 1:12:22has already come out to clarify. We can
- 1:12:24look back on many things as well.
- 1:12:28This involves nutritional lunch
- 1:12:30equipment, free milk, fruit, nutritional
- 1:12:33lunches, who manages it better, and all
- 1:12:36sorts of other issues.
- 1:12:39As for the media providing questions in
- 1:12:42advance, it feels like a deception,
- 1:12:44because obviously, the public assumes
- 1:12:46media questions are meant to be
- 1:12:47spontaneous. We, the audience, didn't
- 1:12:49know you media outlets were giving them
- 1:12:51the questions beforehand, did we? Our
- 1:12:53expectation was that no questions were
- 1:12:54provided, so discovering afterward that
- 1:12:56they were given in advance feels like a
- 1:12:58form of deception. But TVBS doesn't
- 1:13:00consider itself to have engaged in
- 1:13:03deception. Secondly, yes, they feel they
- 1:13:06gave the questions to both sides, but
- 1:13:08this is a cognitive confusion.
- 1:13:11Why? Because, for example, let's say you
- 1:13:15are the student who gets 100 on every
- 1:13:18test. Right.
- 1:13:21And I am the one who fails every time,
- 1:13:23and the teacher says, "Okay, tomorrow is
- 1:13:26the exam, we are giving everyone the
- 1:13:29questions in advance.
- 1:13:34" If everyone gets the questions
- 1:13:36beforehand, is that to the advantage of
- 1:13:38the straight-A student or to someone
- 1:13:41like me who fails?
- 1:13:45You all know the answer, don't you?
- 1:13:48So this is a classic example of why I
- 1:13:51say politics sometimes encourages the
- 1:13:54bad guys. On the surface, TVBS says, "I
- 1:13:57gave them to both sides, don't spread
- 1:14:00rumors," but...
- 1:14:05The premise of a debate is that it
- 1:14:08shouldn't be pre-prepared; you need to
- 1:14:10let the candidates think on their feet.
- 1:14:14That is the very essence of a debate.
- 1:14:21Otherwise, it becomes like a speech
- 1:14:23competition; as I said, if there is a
- 1:14:25top student and a bottom student, does
- 1:14:28giving the topic in advance favor the
- 1:14:31top student or the bottom student?
- 1:14:37Hey, I'm saying that I am the bottom
- 1:14:39student. I’m the one who’s failing; do
- 1:14:42you think it’s better for me or for the
- 1:14:44top student? Everyone knows, everyone
- 1:14:47knows, so stop trying to fool people.
- 1:14:49Alright, okay, we'll wrap it up here for
- 1:14:51today. Thank you, thank you. We'll
- 1:14:54continue chatting tomorrow about school
- 1:14:56lunches or whatever else, I'll just
- 1:14:58touch on a bit.
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