2026 04 15 Saugerties Town Board Meeting — Transcript
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- 0:05Good evening everyone. Welcome to our
- 0:07regularly scheduled April
- 0:1015th meeting. Uh please join the town
- 0:12clerk for pledge of meeting pledge of
- 0:14allegiance
- 0:22of the United States of America and to
- 0:25the republic for which it stands. One
- 0:28nation under God, indivisible, with
- 0:30liberty and justice for all.
- 0:41>> Good evening everyone. Um we have
- 0:44>> is that better or is he
- 0:47>> better? Uh we have privilege of the
- 0:50floor this evening uh sies community and
- 0:53stop energy storage.
- 0:56So white is Elizabeth.
- 1:01>> Start your presentation and we can shut
- 1:03off the lights as well.
- 1:05>> Is this the mic to use?
- 1:07>> Yep.
- 1:11>> Like that.
- 1:13>> Yeah, I think that's good.
- 1:16That's it.
- 1:32>> Go.
- 1:34>> Actually, you're on Elizabeth's queue
- 1:36right now.
- 1:53Good evening. I'm Dia from West
- 1:55Sogerties and I'm going to launch right
- 1:57in. Please stand if you support this
- 2:01petition signed by 514 people and
- 2:05counting.
- 2:07We, the undersigned residents, call on
- 2:09the town of Sogerties to reject the
- 2:12proposed press project on Thompson Road
- 2:16and prohibit largecale battery storage
- 2:19facilities in our community. They raise
- 2:22serious concerns about fire, explosion
- 2:25risk, environmental water impacts,
- 2:28noise, traffic, property values,
- 2:32community character. Under secret, the
- 2:35town board must take a hard look at
- 2:39impacts. We demand the town board and
- 2:42planning board deny any and all
- 2:45applications for the Thompson's Road
- 2:47best or any largecale BES facilities.
- 2:52Amend the town code to prohibit BEST pro
- 2:56projects.
- 2:57And if the town refuses to do this, we
- 3:00ask that you enact a moratorum on all
- 3:04largecale beds facilities.
- 3:07Thank you all for being here.
- 3:12We call on you to rebuild community
- 3:14trust,
- 3:16commitment to secret guidelines,
- 3:22delaying further planning board
- 3:26reviews until reszoning is complete,
- 3:29then accept an application from the
- 3:31developer.
- 3:36avoiding segmentation
- 3:39with combined
- 3:42projects on the Thompson's Road site.
- 3:46Evaluating local impacts, including
- 3:49environmental
- 3:53resubmission of complete application
- 3:56package, not missing or fillers in
- 3:58there. Transparency
- 4:02commit to follow New York open meeting
- 4:05laws. with proper notification of public
- 4:09meetings, including materials to be
- 4:13discussed and documentation when
- 4:16requested as legally required.
- 4:20>> Public records.
- 4:26>> Sorry, it's hard to read without the
- 4:28light. Uh, approval should follow
- 4:31analysis, not precede it. This isn't
- 4:35only about being for or against best.
- 4:39It's about making sure the impacts are
- 4:41fully understood before making further
- 4:45decisions.
- 4:50This is about CDC and best working
- 4:53committee.
- 4:55The uh CAC was established by the town
- 4:58board in 1972.
- 5:01Its duties under New York law are
- 5:04provide technical environmental advice,
- 5:08review projects for wetland habitat,
- 5:12water resources, land disturbance,
- 5:15vegetation removal, ecological impact,
- 5:19and maintain an inventory of natural
- 5:22resources and issue recommendations to
- 5:25the planning board, ZBA, and town board.
- 5:29And the the best working group, the
- 5:32opaque best working group, unknown
- 5:35authority, mission statement, unknown,
- 5:39deliverables, unknown, participants,
- 5:42unknown, public meeting, unknown.
- 5:46No meeting minutes or materials that are
- 5:49being reviewed.
- 5:52Request combined consideration to avoid
- 5:55segmentation. Request positive
- 5:57determination for state environmental
- 6:00quality review.
- 6:03Request complete transparency as per
- 6:07open meeting laws.
- 6:13>> Oh yeah. Hi, my name's Elizabeth Reese.
- 6:15I live in Sies on Elm Street where I've
- 6:18lived for over 20 years and I'm very
- 6:21concerned about this project and the
- 6:23impact on our community and the
- 6:25surrounding other towns. Uh an overview
- 6:28of Thompson project. Uh the the battery
- 6:31facility is ultimately owned by the SK
- 6:35Group which is a foreignowned South
- 6:36Korean congratulate
- 6:38and and it's using a single purpose uh
- 6:41LLC uh to limit liability. The solar
- 6:45farm that's also going in adjacent to it
- 6:48is owned by the Mitsubishi Corp, which
- 6:50is also a foreignowned Japanese
- 6:52conglomerate uh a sing and under a
- 6:55singlepurpose LLC. And also there's a
- 6:58major substation upgrade that's going to
- 7:00be needed to support this project that I
- 7:02haven't heard anybody talk about. Uh I
- 7:06happen to uh come across it. Uh which is
- 7:08owned by Foris, which is also a
- 7:10foreignowned Canadian conglomerate.
- 7:14uh between them there's a huge combined
- 7:16scale of development that's going to
- 7:18happen up on Thompson's Road uh
- 7:20potentially 100 acres with
- 7:22deforestation. Uh the battery facility
- 7:26um is going to have the battery plus
- 7:29solar is initial build of 35 plus acres
- 7:32with over 25 acres of deforestation.
- 7:35Um significant local impacts on health
- 7:38and safety, environment, the tourist
- 7:40economy, noise, continuous operation
- 7:4224/7,
- 7:44136 battery containers, 10 football seal
- 7:47fields, subies and early adopter at this
- 7:51flagship scale. The segmentation issues,
- 7:54which is where related projects are
- 7:56reviewed separately to minimize the
- 7:58realistic combined impact on our
- 8:00community. [clears throat] And there's
- 8:02also this undisclosed major substation
- 8:04upgrade that's going to be needed to
- 8:06facilitate this privatelyowned battery
- 8:09storage facility which is going to be
- 8:12100 megawatt
- 8:14with along with an industrial uh size
- 8:17solar farm which is unclear if they're
- 8:19going to use batteries. They were then
- 8:21they said publicly they wouldn't and
- 8:23then an official said that they were. Um
- 8:26there's going to be shared access roads
- 8:27and on the records these companies have
- 8:29been asked to coordinate um zoning
- 8:32classifications required about jointly
- 8:34and they're within 500 ft of homes in
- 8:36the village boundaries. We are
- 8:38requesting transparency and that the
- 8:41total impact be evaluated u as per law
- 8:45um we want to avoid segmentation. Uh and
- 8:48we're requesting a positive sequel
- 8:50determination.
- 8:52Uh and here's an overview of the of the
- 8:55facilities. Uh you see it's over a
- 8:57100red acres combined. If you add in the
- 9:00um central Hudson location, which will
- 9:02require extensive work, uh it's larger
- 9:04than that. Uh the the Central Hudson
- 9:08substation, which was an upgrade fairly
- 9:10recently, is also going to have to be
- 9:12upgraded too. These projects are not
- 9:14plugandplay. They routinely require
- 9:16significant grid upgrades. This matters
- 9:18because the current substation is only 7
- 9:2069 kilovolt which is uh not transmission
- 9:24level for vault transmission uh
- 9:27requiring significant upgrades expanded
- 9:29footprints with additional construction
- 9:31environmental impacts and deforestation.
- 9:34Custowide upgrade cost will be between$1
- 9:37to2 billion. So don't imagine any of
- 9:40your bills are going to be going down
- 9:41anytime soon. The substation upgrades
- 9:44will require local transmission
- 9:46upgrades, system level upgrades and and
- 9:48regional grid up upgrades. Uh the final
- 9:51scope uh would have been determined
- 9:53through NISO phase one. However, the
- 9:55battery application is missing any
- 9:57reference to uh the the need for any of
- 10:00these upgrades including input from a
- 10:03phase one NSO uh survey. Uh typically
- 10:07these kind of battery facilities are in
- 10:09uh industrial substation energy cor
- 10:12corridors and not in semi-ural and near
- 10:15residential and village boundaries. Uh
- 10:17typically there are already major
- 10:20transmission nodes but we don't have one
- 10:22that would support this. Uh typically
- 10:24the grid is uh built uh from the ground
- 10:26up to enable this. Here it's
- 10:28opportunistic land driven sighting. Uh
- 10:31typically uh this is treated as a major
- 10:34infrastructure whereas here it's being
- 10:36treat treated locally as if it's just a
- 10:38standard building a house no big deal.
- 10:46>> We have concerns about the application
- 10:48as it was submitted uh and how it's been
- 10:51handled. Expanded timeline, stealth
- 10:53introduction, lack of true community
- 10:55engagement, industry back infosuation
- 10:59consultants, insufficient independent
- 11:01analysis, difficulty getting most
- 11:03requested project documentation despite
- 11:05multiple foil requests with actually no
- 11:07acknowledgement on most of them. Uh
- 11:10combined impact of these projects is not
- 11:12being publicly considered. The number of
- 11:13containers is being minimized in the key
- 11:15caption handouts. Uh so people think
- 11:17it's small but in fact it's 136 the size
- 11:20of 10 football fields being promoted by
- 11:22a rolling band of industry affiliated
- 11:24consultants with uh self-interest. The
- 11:27final publicly available documentation
- 11:30for zoning determination enabling the
- 11:32acceptance of this application is
- 11:33missing. It's incorrectly unclassified
- 11:36uh determining uh determination
- 11:39minimizing likelihood of a positive
- 11:41sequel determination and full
- 11:42environmental reviews. zoning changes
- 11:44are being developed in parallel with
- 11:46this specific application. Public
- 11:49hearings for the new zone should have
- 11:50happened prior to this. It's an
- 11:52incomplete application of 600 pages, 200
- 11:55pages of which duplicated on to make it
- 11:58work bigger. Uh the remainder is mostly
- 12:01boiler plate.
- 12:03Uh there's conflicting acreage
- 12:04disturbance, missing sight specific
- 12:06emergency response plan. um missing
- 12:10storm water pollution protection plan,
- 12:12no noise modeling, no noise mitigation,
- 12:15aquifer groundwater risks not evaluated
- 12:17and the need for the substation buildout
- 12:19was not included. We are requesting
- 12:21transparency that incremental
- 12:23submissions used to lock in vested
- 12:25rights and stop and uh they trying to
- 12:28get approvals contingent on future
- 12:30submissions. Uh that's like pressure to
- 12:32approve a blank slate, approve first and
- 12:35study later.
- 12:37We're concerned about the location. The
- 12:39onem impact radius from the proposed
- 12:41site includes Pantine Field, Sardines
- 12:43High School, and surrounding residential
- 12:44neighborhoods. Yet no plumes modeling or
- 12:47defined impact zones are provided in the
- 12:49current record. There's going to be
- 12:51forever impacts on human beings and
- 12:53animals, on our land, on our aquifer, on
- 12:55our habitat, on animal habitat. There's
- 12:58going to be massive deforestation and
- 13:00property values and an impact on our
- 13:02tourist industry. Significant local
- 13:04impacts on health and safety, continuous
- 13:07noise operation. SQL requires
- 13:10consideration of alter alternatives
- 13:12including different locations. Battery
- 13:14storage requires great connection but
- 13:16are not sight specific to a single
- 13:17transformer location especially if that
- 13:19transformer cannot actually handle it.
- 13:22Proximity is only to reduce the cost to
- 13:24the developer. Battery storage response
- 13:27times occur in milliseconds and the
- 13:28difference in electrical travel time
- 13:30over typical sighting distance is
- 13:32negligible. We are requesting
- 13:34transparency. What alternatives are
- 13:36being considered? We're requesting a
- 13:38combined consideration to avoid
- 13:39segmentation and a positive CO
- 13:42determination.
- 13:43Uh here's the location. Uh you can see
- 13:46um I'm afraid it's a little bit small
- 13:49but you can see that all this brown area
- 13:51is um is uh soil that uh I'm sorry I
- 13:56can't actually see it. Um I'll come back
- 14:00to this one another time but you can see
- 14:01the massive size of this is this is over
- 14:04100 acres. There's aquifer, there's
- 14:06wetlands, there's actually swamplands as
- 14:09well.
- 14:10>> Um
- 14:13>> okay.
- 14:18So, I'm not going to go and read point
- 14:20for point, but a lot of the safety
- 14:22concerns have been outlined on this
- 14:23slide, and we can make the materials
- 14:25available for whoever afterwards.
- 14:27>> Talk louder.
- 14:28>> Sorry, I try and talk and hold this
- 14:30closer.
- 14:33But some of the safety concerns involve
- 14:35the fact that this is an emerging market
- 14:36that's unregulated and best practices as
- 14:39outlined by NAERTA is to have localities
- 14:42create regulations under which they have
- 14:44oversight. International fire code says
- 14:47that these things don't need fire
- 14:48suppression uh installed if they are in
- 14:52remote areas. And so by maybe like the
- 14:55density of New York City, this might be
- 14:57considered a remote area. But by the
- 14:59density of the county that it is within
- 15:02a close radius to one of our more denser
- 15:04areas means that it's remote by whose
- 15:07standards? International fire code would
- 15:09say that the regulating authority, which
- 15:11would be the local authority here based
- 15:13on state policy, would be tasked with
- 15:15enforcing that and making sure that that
- 15:18was done correctly. The way these things
- 15:20are designed is to minimize liability to
- 15:23the developers. The developers use a
- 15:25multi-layered structure that shields
- 15:27them from the impacts if these things
- 15:30aren't operational as stated or if they
- 15:33cut corners. The beneficial owner,
- 15:35majority shareholder of Keysapture
- 15:37Energy, has already had OSHA violations
- 15:40in the United States, $31 million
- 15:42lawsuit in Atlanta for improper battery
- 15:44disposal. They also were one of their
- 15:47subsidiaries was responsible for taking
- 15:49out systems in South Korea that affected
- 15:52most major internet systems as well as
- 15:55data center issues. We will be
- 15:57vulnerable to cyber attacks with this in
- 15:59the area. When the internet goes out,
- 16:03which it does sometimes, how do these
- 16:05stay connected? These require remote
- 16:07engagement in order to be monitored and
- 16:10to know if there's flaws. If the
- 16:12internet is down, how do we know
- 16:13something's wrong?
- 16:15There are alternatives to these type of
- 16:17batteries which have been outlined in
- 16:19the first slide. Uh there are in the
- 16:21second slide there's ion air batteries,
- 16:24sodium ion batteries, there's
- 16:26geothermal, they have hydro cells now
- 16:28that they've created where they use a
- 16:30motor to push water up to the cell and
- 16:32then the water comes down kind of
- 16:34recreating hydro power within a cell.
- 16:37Those are completely non-toxic because
- 16:39that's water. uh but they're not looking
- 16:42at the different technologies because
- 16:43these technologies are now market cheap.
- 16:46The reason these are rolling out as
- 16:47quickly as they are and as fast as they
- 16:49are is that the price to produce them
- 16:51has come down significantly combined
- 16:53with carbon credits and other financial
- 16:55incentives puts very little financial
- 16:58liability on the developer either to do
- 17:00things correctly or expensively.
- 17:04So we have different sites like uh
- 17:06undisturbed industrial sites. We could
- 17:08do a intercount partnership. They do it
- 17:11for mental health services. The mental
- 17:13health association of Columbia and Green
- 17:14County is an intercount partnership
- 17:17designed to provide services to the
- 17:19area. If we have additional counties in
- 17:21the local that have space for these
- 17:24things to be situated more safely away
- 17:26from more density, why not create more
- 17:29inner county packs to address some of
- 17:31the issues that we've outlined with it
- 17:33being so close to everyone?
- 17:37Okay. And there was a statement that was
- 17:39given to us by McCall and he's a
- 17:44toxicologist and water specialtist. He's
- 17:46a SRE resident and environmental
- 17:48scientist. He's requesting consider
- 17:51combined consideration to avoid
- 17:52segmentation requesting positive
- 17:54termination for state environmental
- 17:56quality reviews and um he's posted he's
- 17:59given us information on super fund acts.
- 18:02Renewable sources of energy are not a
- 18:04bad idea. This isn't against renewable
- 18:07energy. It's just not this technology at
- 18:10this location. We are requesting
- 18:12transparency. fire department and town
- 18:14board meetings and privilege at the
- 18:16floor requesting combined consideration
- 18:18to avoid segmentation requesting
- 18:20positive determination for state
- 18:21environment and quality reviews. So then
- 18:25we also have environmental concerns. Uh
- 18:28there's a direct impact on the
- 18:29population should things go wrong. In
- 18:31theory, these batteries operate quite
- 18:33well under best practices and ideal
- 18:37scenarios under which real world
- 18:39application very rarely meets the
- 18:42criteria for the stated safety levels.
- 18:46Uh we're uh eliminating a functioning
- 18:48carbon sink which will restore release
- 18:51stored carbon increase pollution from
- 18:54the adjacent uh roads and throughways
- 18:56with the deforestation proposed. uh
- 18:59there is not noise buffering included in
- 19:01the application. Uh what the noise is
- 19:04for these things is subjective. When you
- 19:06hear a decibel reading, you need to also
- 19:09know from what distance. So someone can
- 19:11say 100 dB or someone can say 70 dB, but
- 19:14if they don't tell you the distance,
- 19:16it's a meaningless number. Uh forever
- 19:19impact humans, land aquafer, continuous
- 19:21habitats, including endangered species
- 19:23and migratory birds. When these things
- 19:26go offline, like they leave them there
- 19:28or they sell them to secondary companies
- 19:31that operate them at like 30 to 45%
- 19:34because the batteries are no longer safe
- 19:35to be charged to 100%. That's what
- 19:38happened in Warwick. And because these
- 19:40things get passed around from developer
- 19:41to developer, nobody is there to take
- 19:43accountability when something goes
- 19:45wrong.
- 19:47Um, this does not necessarily
- 19:49demonstrate that the climate goals
- 19:51stated will be met with this project.
- 19:52It's a 4hour charge and uh we are
- 19:57increasing both density and data centers
- 20:00within the state.
- 20:09>> Another big concern of my name is
- 20:11Eileen. I live across from Cantine on
- 20:13Washington Avenue. Uh big concern is
- 20:17noise. Massive deforestation removes
- 20:19natural buffers. Nighttime inversion
- 20:22conditions projections based on what was
- 20:26included. Elevated location and low
- 20:29frequency which travels further. 70 dB
- 20:32at fence line 50 at the nearest house.
- 20:3640 well within the village. Constant
- 20:38humming
- 20:4024/7 and its loudest at night. It's not
- 20:43mass by not masked
- 20:47by the freeway in the rush hours. Uh
- 20:50town of Sores has no noise uh ordinance,
- 20:54no plans to install beams, BMS,
- 20:59no acoustic modeling. Battery storage
- 21:03site becomes noisier with age. More heat
- 21:07and forcing full cooling fans and HV
- 21:10back systems to work harder. mechanical
- 21:16mechanical cooling components sometimes
- 21:19reach 92 decibb near the equipment.
- 21:23Types of noise you have operational
- 21:25that's from uh inverters and cooling
- 21:27systems and it emits a high pitched
- 21:31electrical buzz. Mechanical noise,
- 21:33that's your compressor, pumps, fans.
- 21:37They lead to mechanical vibration and
- 21:39noise that can reach uncomfortable
- 21:41decibb for nearby residents. The most
- 21:43significant noise these run to prevent
- 21:46battery overheating. They produce a
- 21:49constant frequent work or home.
- 21:59>> Requesting transparency. Are sound
- 22:01mitigation measures and commitments
- 22:03being discussed? Requesting combined
- 22:07consideration to avoid segmentation.
- 22:10Requesting positive determination for
- 22:12state environmental quality review. SQL.
- 22:19We're concerned about our volunteer
- 22:21firemen.
- 22:24There's incorrect information being
- 22:26disseminated. This will simply take more
- 22:29than four hours of watching
- 22:32um of watching in case training for the
- 22:36Cedar Grove Fire Department is not
- 22:38enough. All mutual aid fire departments
- 22:41must be trained and pro provided with
- 22:43equipment.
- 22:44>> Uh
- 22:45>> microphone
- 22:48>> key capture
- 22:50>> please. I'm sorry to interrupt.
- 22:52>> Yeah, this is the last time we this is
- 22:55the last one. Thanks.
- 22:57>> Okay. Decapture is not the first
- 22:59responders. That responsibility falls on
- 23:01our local fire department and emergency
- 23:04equipment.
- 23:05Um lithium ion batteries uh fire other
- 23:08fire departments don't support battery
- 23:11facilities in their communities. Lithium
- 23:13iron battery behavior. Thermal runaway
- 23:17toxic gas release.
- 23:20Responder safety most important. Best
- 23:23fires are not comparable to conventional
- 23:26structure fires
- 23:29and requesting transparency. Fire
- 23:31department at town board meeting with
- 23:34privilege of the floor requesting
- 23:36combined consideration to avoid
- 23:38segmentation requesting positive
- 23:41determination for state environmental
- 23:43quality review section.
- 23:48>> Thank you.
- 23:49>> Okay, great. Thank you. Um, anyone have
- 23:53a question?
- 23:55>> You better have a comment or a question,
- 23:57please share.
- 23:59>> Um, just so you know, anybody who has
- 24:01questions, we're going to be doing
- 24:03another community meeting at the
- 24:06library. Uh, if anybody wants to bring,
- 24:08you know, bring thoughtful questions,
- 24:10then you know, contact to us and we
- 24:13would love to sit down and talk to
- 24:15people.
- 24:16>> I can't hear.
- 24:17>> All right. Thank you. We're going to
- 24:19move on. public comment. You can turn
- 24:22the lights back on. Christie, Mike,
- 24:27>> thank
- 24:31Eric Delmare.
- 24:34Chris, can you get these two?
- 24:39>> Hi, my name is Eric Delmare. I live on
- 24:41Lafayette Street. There's huge
- 24:44opposition to best installations across
- 24:46the state. Let's talk about that for
- 24:48sovereignty.
- 24:50You guys can't hear me.
- 24:53>> Restart the clock, please. Is this power
- 24:55switch?
- 24:56>> I think the volume needs
- 24:58>> Hello. Hello. Hello. Hello. Testing.
- 25:00Testing.
- 25:02You have to be very close at the end of
- 25:18>> St.
- 25:25>> There we go.
- 25:29>> Restart the clock, please.
- 25:30>> Yes. Let's talk.
- 25:32>> Yeah. Yeah. My name is Eric Delmar. I
- 25:34live on Lafayette Street. There's huge
- 25:36opposition to best installations across
- 25:38the state.
- 25:39>> Let's talk about that. Especially for
- 25:42soies. A best installation is more than
- 25:44just batteries. Each giant battery
- 25:46container has systems to keep the
- 25:48batteries stable. If all those systems
- 25:50work correctly, there's less chance of a
- 25:53battery fire. Fires are uncommon, but
- 25:55they're also uncommonly horrible.
- 25:59An uncontrollable fire could erupt,
- 26:01belching toxic gases in whatever
- 26:03direction the wind blows. We're advised
- 26:06to just let it burn out, but that could
- 26:08take weeks. Our fire department would
- 26:10have to stand by 24/7 making sure other
- 26:13batteries get cooled down so they don't
- 26:16get pushed into place. Serveries will
- 26:19not benefit from this proposed battery
- 26:21farm. Owners of data centers are the
- 26:23target customers.
- 26:26data centers are able to pay top dollar
- 26:28to keep their systems running. So that
- 26:30best flyer handout that we got at the uh
- 26:33that promotional uh brainwashing we had
- 26:35recently that was best flyer handouts
- 26:38that stated best units keep the lights
- 26:40on during a storm while sounding cozy
- 26:43and nice is false. Soies won't benefit.
- 26:46We're not the customer and their claim
- 26:49of millions of dollars in tax revenue.
- 26:52Nope. They went around and now they're
- 26:53applying to uh not pay any property tax
- 26:56and they're seeking the pilot and move
- 26:58payment and move taxes. They want us to
- 27:00accept token payments towards social
- 27:02programs. So again, deceit and
- 27:05sovereignities would get no offset to
- 27:06our ballooning property taxes.
- 27:09The master plan is to install 136
- 27:12battery units, each the size of a 40ft
- 27:14shipping container, up on the hill. So
- 27:17that's 13 acres of giant electric boxes
- 27:20all alive with electric hump from
- 27:23charging or discharging along with a
- 27:25sound of noisy relays and compressors
- 27:27and fans to keep the battery stable. And
- 27:30remember that noise that we have to
- 27:33tolerate 24/7 is for the benefit of some
- 27:37far away data center
- 27:40about that hill that this is going to go
- 27:42on. It's the tallest spot in It's the
- 27:45tallest spot in the village. Six stories
- 27:48higher than the average village
- 27:49elevation. Best plants are noisiest at
- 27:53night and they get noisier every year,
- 27:55getting louder as the systems age and
- 27:57lose efficiency. You like opening your
- 28:00window on a summer evening and only
- 28:02hearing crickets? That may become a
- 28:04sweet memory. Up on the hill at that
- 28:06elevation, the noise will be everywhere.
- 28:10Even if there was a 5% chance of
- 28:12problems, why take the chance? There's
- 28:15no benefit here, especially for a toxic,
- 28:18complex, volatile asset owned by a third
- 28:21party. So I ask, why are we even
- 28:24entertaining this proposal?
- 28:28[applause]
- 28:29Board members, board members, you know
- 28:32that you're here to serve the public
- 28:34good. These best systems are intrusive
- 28:36and quite possibly dangerous. We have
- 28:39nothing to gain and so much to lose.
- 28:41Thank you, [applause]
- 28:49>> Ted Moroni.
- 28:59>> Hey everyone, my name is Ted. I live in
- 29:00the village on Market Street. I work for
- 29:03a renewable energy company that operates
- 29:04about 100 solar sites across New England
- 29:06and New York. We also have about 10
- 29:08battery sites in our portfolio. As a
- 29:10renewable energy worker and village
- 29:12resident, I support efforts to add
- 29:14battery storage to the grid to reduce
- 29:16pollution, modernize American energy. I
- 29:19attended the recent Stop Socrates
- 29:21battery storage meeting at the library
- 29:22on March 25th and heard many of my
- 29:24neighbors concerns that have been voiced
- 29:26here again tonight. I believe some of
- 29:27these concerns are very valid and should
- 29:29be addressed, but others are unfounded.
- 29:31I hope my input tonight can help.
- 29:33Utility scale batteries provide
- 29:35dispatchable power that can be
- 29:36discharged [clears throat] when needed
- 29:37to stabilize the grid in times of high
- 29:39demand as opposed to intermittent power
- 29:41from resources such as solar and wind or
- 29:43base load power such as nuclear and
- 29:45hydro which are always on. The majority
- 29:47of dispatchable energy on the grid
- 29:49currently comes from oil and natural gas
- 29:52fired peaker plants which ramp up
- 29:54production as needed. Per the nonprofit
- 29:56energy policy group PSSE's 2024
- 29:58analysis, 3/4 of New York State's Peaker
- 30:01plants are over 30 years old and their
- 30:04operation produces significant
- 30:05pollution. Batteries produce no
- 30:07pollution during operation. Furthermore,
- 30:10batteries can charge during times of
- 30:11high generation and low demand, allowing
- 30:14us to avoid energy waste. For example,
- 30:16on a mild spring day, most buildings
- 30:18need neither heating nor cooling, which
- 30:19is a major source of energy usage, so
- 30:21there'd be less demand on the grid that
- 30:23day. However, base load energy
- 30:25generators such as nuclear and hydro
- 30:26running 247 constantly produce energy
- 30:29even when there isn't enough demand on
- 30:30the grid to make use of that energy.
- 30:32Batteries solve this problem by
- 30:34capturing excess energy to use later
- 30:36when needed. This is a traditional
- 30:38market economy supply and demand. They
- 30:41buy when it's cheap, they sell when it's
- 30:43high. But this is going to happen
- 30:45whether it's battery or it's natural gas
- 30:47fired plants. This is the market economy
- 30:49that that we're operating under here. As
- 30:51for this particular battery system
- 30:53proposed by Key Capture Energy, I've
- 30:55been unable to access the proposal in
- 30:56full, so my analysis is based on
- 30:58secondary sources and what I've heard
- 30:59from my neighbors. It would be great for
- 31:01the town to upload a copy of the full
- 31:03proposal to their website for public
- 31:04review, which seems like transparency is
- 31:06a key thing here. For now, from what I
- 31:08can tell, there are three deficiencies
- 31:09in the proposal. Does not specify an
- 31:11emergency response plan. It sidesteps a
- 31:13full secret type one review. And the
- 31:15direct compensation to our community is
- 31:17unclear. My company has an emergency
- 31:19response plan we share with the local
- 31:20fire department in each of our battery
- 31:22projects. The plan lists contact info
- 31:24everyone, explains what to do in certain
- 31:26situations and whom to call in an event
- 31:27such as an fire. To be clear, we have
- 31:30never had a fire in any of our battery
- 31:31systems. Nonetheless, it is imperative
- 31:33that an emergency response plan in
- 31:35place. It is negligent to proceed with
- 31:37key captures proposal without it. As for
- 31:40the environmental impacts, as I said, a
- 31:41full secret type one review should be
- 31:43conducted and it would be negligent to
- 31:45proceed without it. And in additionally,
- 31:47the noise the noise concerns in the
- 31:48storm water model reviews that should be
- 31:50looped in there as well because the
- 31:51noise like you said it matters very much
- 31:53on proximity and having a decibel
- 31:55reading. It must be done at certain
- 31:57times of day and at certain distances
- 31:59and there are companies that this is
- 32:00their whole thing. All they do is noise
- 32:01analyses. It's it's a very uh you know
- 32:03industry standard practice. Um, I've
- 32:06heard different reports about the
- 32:07payments key caps will make, whether
- 32:08it's direct contribution, property tax
- 32:10payments, pilot setups, donations to
- 32:13area nonprofits, and I think it's
- 32:15negligent for us to proceed if we don't
- 32:17completely understand the explicit
- 32:19amount they would be paying us and any
- 32:20financial penalties if those, you know,
- 32:22uh, payments are not fulfilled.
- 32:24I believe we should add batteries to the
- 32:26grid for the long-term health and
- 32:27well-being of our planet and that
- 32:29includes our local grid here in so once
- 32:31Key Capture has submitted a
- 32:32comprehensive emergency response plan,
- 32:34committed to a full secret review, and
- 32:36contractually confirmed its financial
- 32:37contributions to our community, this
- 32:38project will have my full support. For
- 32:40now, there's still work to be done.
- 32:41Thank you for your time.
- 32:42>> Thank you. [applause]
- 32:54Members of the board, Janelle and I
- 32:56signed up to read into the minutes some
- 32:59of the Paul Roman's uh statements on
- 33:02water and western farm and we would both
- 33:05like to wait uh until the end. Can we
- 33:07maybe be moved down on the schedule,
- 33:11please?
- 33:12>> I always go in the order that people
- 33:13sign up.
- 33:14>> Well, you can do it now.
- 33:16>> Okay, I will. I'm sorry to be
- 33:17interrupting. Um
- 33:20sorry to be interrupted.
- 33:21>> It's okay.
- 33:22>> Um I will say that um on with respect to
- 33:26the best project that there
- 33:29two sides seem to be talking past each
- 33:31other not and I think that the
- 33:33objections raised by um the opponents
- 33:36really do need to be addressed but
- 33:39that's what the last speaker said also.
- 33:42>> Okay. So on behalf of beautiful soies I
- 33:46wish to reiterate two points made
- 33:47previously by hydraologist Paul Ribbon
- 33:50during his recent privilege of the floor
- 33:52presentation as well as in public
- 33:54comment periods. The first point
- 33:56concerning the threat of inevitable
- 33:58periods of drought and the devastating
- 34:01effect they would have depending on
- 34:02severity on the bake of an aquifer is
- 34:05thus far undisputed. Mr. Ruben provided
- 34:08copious documentation that droughts have
- 34:11historically occurred and will occur
- 34:12again. This information unavailable at
- 34:15the time of the secret public comment
- 34:17period
- 34:18>> has no rain
- 34:19>> last summer must give the town board
- 34:21serious pause in its deliberations of
- 34:23how much water should be made should be
- 34:26made available for any development on
- 34:28Winston farm. The second point that the
- 34:31document of reasonable use of about 26
- 34:33gallons per minute of water from the
- 34:35aquifer to Winston Farm use is
- 34:37calculated based on the number of its
- 34:40843 acres to the total number of acres
- 34:43the aquifer can supply water to and the
- 34:46amount of water that can be pumped from
- 34:47the aquifer. This must also be taken
- 34:50into consideration when access to water
- 34:52is clarified in a PDD for WY farm. No
- 34:56other figure based on hydraologic or
- 34:58legal principles has been proposed to
- 35:00date. Neither of these points can be
- 35:02ignored without compromising the
- 35:05obligation to due diligence on the part
- 35:07of the town board. And I will be sending
- 35:10this um to Miss Stanley for inclusion in
- 35:14the minutes um of this meeting. Thank
- 35:16you.
- 35:20[applause]
- 35:24Now it's your move.
- 35:26>> Good evening.
- 35:28>> Um, yes. I'm also uh going to be
- 35:31speaking about a few points about
- 35:33Winston Farm and I apologize to uh the
- 35:37best
- 35:39microphone.
- 35:40>> Okay. Can can you I think so. According
- 35:44to hydraologist Paul Rubin and other
- 35:46members of our community, the owners of
- 35:48Winston Farm have not provided any
- 35:50detailed breakdown of actual plan
- 35:53development components or the quantity
- 35:55of groundwater required for each use.
- 35:58This singular crucial aspect should give
- 36:01our town pause because how can the town
- 36:04possibly make any reasonable assessment
- 36:07given that the owners have made not one
- 36:09single plan? The owners are instead
- 36:12looking to get blanket approval for many
- 36:15unspecified development components
- 36:17through a zoning change. These quote
- 36:20uses are compiled in appendix P of the
- 36:23DEGIS
- 36:25containing a highly objectionable
- 36:27laundry list of sunundry fancical
- 36:30possible uses. The reasonable use
- 36:33doctrine of New York clearly states that
- 36:36groundwater does not belong to owners of
- 36:39real property but is a natural resource
- 36:41entrusted to the state by and for its
- 36:45citizens.
- 36:46The north south trending Beaverkill
- 36:49Bakoben Aquafer covers a little over
- 36:527,000 acres and is entirely designated
- 36:55as an aquifer protection overlay
- 36:57district and as it is establishes the
- 37:00town's water rights protects ecosystem
- 37:03health protects the town against drought
- 37:06and can help to lead the town's careful
- 37:08decisions for future growth. The 840
- 37:12acres of Winston farm is in the middle
- 37:14of the elderly district.
- 37:16The Winston farm owners have not
- 37:18proposed a master plan for their plan
- 37:20development district and do not support
- 37:22or comply with the town sovereignty's
- 37:25aquifer protection overlay district. So
- 37:28with this in mind, are we to simply
- 37:30guess what they might do?
- 37:32>> It stands to reason alone that owners
- 37:35must be forced to produce exacting
- 37:37project details along with scientific
- 37:40justification for individual project
- 37:42component water demands. The town of
- 37:45Socrates is obligated to uphold the
- 37:47reasonable use doctrine for the aquifers
- 37:50overlay protection. It is unethical and
- 37:52illegal to permanently dedicate the bulk
- 37:55of the available aquifer groundwater
- 37:57supply to a single owner or in this case
- 38:00three owners to support their
- 38:01development schemes and personal profit.
- 38:04Groundwater rights are a serious issue
- 38:06for Winston. How our town handles
- 38:09potential negative impacts on the
- 38:12aquafer is key. our ecosystem
- 38:14degradation to from ecosystem
- 38:18degradation to sustainability to drought
- 38:20emergency to contamination risks all
- 38:24must be of the highest priority. Thank
- 38:26you.
- 38:28[applause]
- 38:39>> Thank you. Can you hear me?
- 38:41>> Yes.
- 38:42I've been asked to read a letter from an
- 38:44environmentalist who is active in
- 38:46Warwick, New York.
- 38:48>> Dear members of the town board, my name
- 38:50is Camila Melik and I am the chair of
- 38:53Protect Orange County. I am writing to
- 38:56strongly urge the town of Socrates to
- 38:59reject the proposed battery energy
- 39:01storage system. Battery storage is
- 39:04represented as a green and clean energy
- 39:06alternative to fossil fuels. Orange
- 39:09County has been under siege by gas
- 39:12infrastructure to power the New York
- 39:13City grid. So, no community has a
- 39:16greater stake in transitioning to green
- 39:18energies energy than ours. However, we
- 39:21have learned that battery storage is not
- 39:24clean or green, but rather merely
- 39:26storing more fossil fuel power while
- 39:29inherently toxic and volatile and
- 39:31industrializing rural communities. It is
- 39:35not a climate solution, but climate
- 39:37deception. We have already seen
- 39:40firsthand what these facilities can do.
- 39:42In the town of Warwick, our community
- 39:44witnessed a battery fire burned for for
- 39:48days. It required prolonged emergency
- 39:51response, raised serious concern about
- 39:53air quality, and demonstrated just how
- 39:56difficult these fires are to contain and
- 39:59fully extinguish.
- 40:01These are not isolated or hypothetical
- 40:04risks. They are real documented events
- 40:07happening in communities like ours. I
- 40:10was present near the Warwick site two
- 40:11weeks after the fire and after being
- 40:14there for less than an hour, I
- 40:16experienced a metallic taste in my
- 40:18mouth. I had to immediately go home and
- 40:20rinse my mouth. There were reports that
- 40:23workers at the site also became ill.
- 40:26When battery systems burn, they can
- 40:28release highly toxic substances,
- 40:30including hydrogen fluoride, carbon
- 40:33monoxide, and fine particulate matter.
- 40:36These emissions pose immediate and
- 40:38long-term risks to residents, first
- 40:40responders, and the environment. Yet,
- 40:43despite these known hazards, New York
- 40:45State does not currently have adequate
- 40:47enforcable regulations to place in to
- 40:50fully protect communities or the
- 40:52environment from these emissions or
- 40:54their impact.
- 40:56These systems are inherently volatile.
- 40:58Even so-called safer battery chemistries
- 41:01can experience thermal runaway for long
- 41:04burning and reignition. At the same
- 41:07time, local fire departments are often
- 41:09not equipped with the specialized
- 41:10training, resources, or protective
- 41:13equipment needed to safely respond to
- 41:15these incidents. This proposal would
- 41:18effectively industrialize a rural
- 41:20community and impose disproportionate
- 41:22risk on loyal local residents.
- 41:26The burden of potential fire, toxic
- 41:28exposure, and environmental
- 41:30contamination falls squarely on the host
- 41:32community without meaningful consent and
- 41:35without sufficient safeguards. Soy
- 41:38should not be asked to accept these
- 41:40risks. Thank you.
- 41:43[applause]
- 41:51Take that.
- 41:59Good evening. I'm Pat Sheen. Uh,
- 42:02>> first I want to thank Councilman Io. He
- 42:05spoke with my son tonight. My son is
- 42:07doing his requirement for first class on
- 42:09citizenship. So, what a perfect way to
- 42:13address citizenship than be here, talk
- 42:15to our elected officials and and be here
- 42:18for a presentation like this. So, this
- 42:20is very great. I thank you and I thank
- 42:23the board and uh presentations
- 42:24excellent. Uh so I'm Pat Sheen. I'm
- 42:27running for New York State Senate. I
- 42:28live just south of Soures in Ruby. Uh
- 42:32>> you move.
- 42:33>> I've been on the record about this since
- 42:35the jump. Uh we bear as local residents
- 42:39all the costs and really none of the
- 42:40benefits. Uh the costs are the property
- 42:42value deflation, the fire risks, the
- 42:45toxic fumes. Uh the benefits go to data
- 42:48centers, AI, New York City. Uh
- 42:52New York after the CLCPA
- 42:54has really
- 42:57funded this through taxpayer dollars. Uh
- 43:00they're looking to take away local
- 43:02control. We know that uh Naerta is
- 43:05looking to take away your control. The
- 43:08the room here speaks to people's
- 43:09interest in this. And yeah, what do you
- 43:13know? Our elected leaders in Albany
- 43:15don't want our local people to have a
- 43:19say. They want a sighting department in
- 43:21Naerta, an anonymous
- 43:25door up in the Capitol to thumbs up or
- 43:28thumbs down these these projects. This
- 43:31technology, these batteries are already
- 43:34old. Okay, I work for the state.
- 43:36We got new computers. They were like
- 43:38operating in DOSs. This is this is stuff
- 43:41that really does impact people. Barry
- 43:44technology will get there. We're not
- 43:46there yet. Uh The former speaker said,
- 43:50"These are uncommonly horrible." And I
- 43:52wrote that down. And they are, you know,
- 43:54and our elected officials, Sarah
- 43:56Hanesto, Michelle Hinchi, Kathy Hovel,
- 43:59Jen Mezer, who signed on the CL CPA,
- 44:02basically say trust the science. Well, I
- 44:04haven't trusted the science since Mr.
- 44:06Fouchy stood up and said that the first
- 44:08time.
- 44:09>> BATTERIES,
- 44:11[applause]
- 44:12batteries are pollution. They are
- 44:14unrecyclable.
- 44:16And two things I want to point out. If
- 44:19if you recall, Millins wanted to site a
- 44:22recycling plant on 32 just south of
- 44:24Olster County Resource Recovery. The
- 44:27people across the river made all the
- 44:29decisions about that project in Olster
- 44:32County because they had the money and it
- 44:34was going to impact their viewshed.
- 44:36Well, they can't see it from Woodstock.
- 44:38They can't see it from Rybeck. So, we're
- 44:41stuck with it just like the people in
- 44:42the town of Olter. And that is
- 44:46disgraceful.
- 44:48>> My final point on this is these
- 44:52projects, Terra Jan and Key Capture, but
- 44:55the New York State throughway, in this
- 44:56case, New York State throughway and CSX
- 44:58train line.
- 45:00The New York State throughway is an
- 45:02Eisenhower designated national defense
- 45:04highway. It cannot be shut down. So find
- 45:08the stop.
- 45:09>> That's all I have to say. Okay.
- 45:10>> Thank you so much.
- 45:12[applause]
- 45:19Mart.
- 45:21>> Oh, no. I'm I'm not going to speak.
- 45:23>> Okay, fair enough. [clears throat] Thank
- 45:25you for coming,
- 45:27>> Lisa Flanigan.
- 45:36>> Hi, my name is Lisa Flanigan. I'm a
- 45:39resident on John Schultz Road.
- 45:40>> Go. According, this is a quote,
- 45:43according to the US National Renewable
- 45:45Energy Laboratory, the optimal
- 45:47temperature range for lithium ion for
- 45:49batteries like these is between 59° F
- 45:52and 95° F. Rearch shows that an ambient
- 45:56temperature of about 68° is ideal. If a
- 45:59battery operates at 86° F, its lifetime
- 46:02is reduced by 20%. At 104°, the losses
- 46:07in lifetime approach 40%.
- 46:10This is all to say that we know and has
- 46:12been emphasized that thermal management
- 46:15is critical to these. Today's high was
- 46:1886° and it is mid angle. We all know
- 46:22over the past few years that heat waves
- 46:24and deep freezes have been increasingly
- 46:27a part of our lives and we all see it
- 46:29reflected in our energy bills which as
- 46:31we know this will do nothing for.
- 46:36But also, we've seen abrupt swings in
- 46:38temperature in an 24-hour period. At
- 46:42best, a best battery system has a
- 46:44lifespan of
- 46:46>> maybe 12 years, and that goes down by
- 46:4920% and then by 40%. Which means that we
- 46:52have very large disposable batteries,
- 46:55100 acres of which we are planning to
- 46:56build in the backyards of the village of
- 46:59Socrates.
- 47:00They are proposing to build these with
- 47:02actual warehouses. They could they could
- 47:05propose entire buildings with HVAC which
- 47:09with proper fire suppression systems,
- 47:11but they won't because no one's making
- 47:13them do it. There are no regulations to
- 47:15respect. [applause] These developers are
- 47:18very aggressively trying to get these
- 47:20built before the state starts regulating
- 47:22it. And
- 47:24>> yeah, Naerta can be both a pain and a
- 47:27gain and requires so much transparency.
- 47:30And I really want to defend them, but
- 47:31he's not entirely wrong.
- 47:34And the containers they are proposing to
- 47:36put these in are simply steel shipping
- 47:39containers painted a very nice white.
- 47:41Maybe green. It'll blend in more. I
- 47:44don't know. But we've all seen footage
- 47:47of how just a single bicycle battery can
- 47:51take down an apartment building,
- 47:52>> can take down a house.
- 47:55>> The risk that everyone is saying is fine
- 47:58is ridiculous.
- 47:59Additionally, entertaining the best
- 48:01project and the Winston Farms project
- 48:03simultaneously
- 48:05is an insane
- 48:07>> I don't understand how those coexist in
- 48:09terms of looking at water, looking at
- 48:10building, looking at zoning, which
- 48:12apparently is a real flexible term
- 48:15around here. Whether someone is from
- 48:17here or not, there is a pattern of
- 48:20disregard and a lack of transparency
- 48:23that I think eventually someone is going
- 48:25to be found liable for. And I think
- 48:27people are going to suffer for it so
- 48:32[applause]
- 48:36you
- 48:46Steven Schaefer 8 Mind your stream. I'm
- 48:49speaking as a private citizen though I
- 48:51am a member of the conservation advisory
- 48:53commission.
- 48:55Rising demands for electricity make it
- 48:57ever harder to meet the needs of peak
- 49:01hours. For a scarce commodity, utilities
- 49:04have to pay sky-high spot prices to
- 49:07customers. The uptrending price of
- 49:10natural gas also raises bills for
- 49:12electricity even in months that don't
- 49:15see yearly maximal loads.
- 49:18A sensible approach to threaten
- 49:19brownouts and the reality of higher
- 49:21electric bills is to build supply by
- 49:24adding generating capacity of wind and
- 49:27utility scale solar. These are much
- 49:30cheaper to build than base loader plants
- 49:33where the fuel for their operations is
- 49:35literally free. Ideal solution? No, but
- 49:39a good one. Two problems. Wind and solar
- 49:43are variable energy resources. They
- 49:46can't be counted on to meet an upcoming
- 49:48rise in demand. Neither can be easily
- 49:51dialed to dispatch more electricity over
- 49:54the next hour or to ramp down on a day
- 49:57with lots of sun or wind.
- 49:59>> Thus, neither is useful in itself for
- 50:02keeping the second to second balance of
- 50:04supply and demand that the grid requires
- 50:07for smooth operation.
- 50:10If we want future electricity without
- 50:12price spikes, the spectre of brown outs
- 50:14or worse and steadily rising costs of
- 50:17thermal generation, utility scale
- 50:20battery energy storage systems help
- 50:22solve both the drawbacks of wind and
- 50:24solar mentioned above. Bets can store
- 50:28electricity generated by the total
- 50:31capability of base load plants plus
- 50:33variable energy resources to supply the
- 50:36grid for a certain time span exceeds the
- 50:39end user demand over that interval.
- 50:42Best shift energy availability from one
- 50:45part of the day to another for example
- 50:48from midday to the evening ramp up in
- 50:50load. BS can thus on a daily basis tamp
- 50:54down dural rises in hourly net load. A
- 50:58set of fully charged BZ facilities can
- 51:01also take the place of air polluting
- 51:03peaker plants that run just a few days
- 51:05per year. A full B can discharge
- 51:09electricity instantly to stabilize the
- 51:11grid in case of a sudden increase in
- 51:14demand or dip in supply. If low, it can
- 51:18instantly start charging to buffer a
- 51:20surge in kilowatt hours.
- 51:23>> Without best, it will be impossible for
- 51:25New York State to realize the advantages
- 51:28of a grid in which wind and utility
- 51:30scale solar have a major role. Thank
- 51:34you.
- 51:36[applause]
- 51:53Hi, my name is Janet Greenberg and I'm a
- 51:56property owner residing within the
- 51:58[snorts] designated best evacuation and
- 52:00shelter in place radius
- 52:05>> matter.
- 52:07>> [laughter]
- 52:08>> Um, so the following is information that
- 52:11I've not been provided or have not been
- 52:13given easy access to in order to make an
- 52:16informed decision on whether or not to
- 52:18support this best initiative.
- 52:21Whether living within a BES evacuation
- 52:23zone is or will be a required disclosure
- 52:26on real estate transactions for both
- 52:29property sales and rental agreements.
- 52:32and who bears the responsibility for
- 52:34ensuring that disclosure is made to
- 52:36affected residents and prospective
- 52:38buyers or tenants.
- 52:41Whether our local volunteer fire
- 52:43department has been fully briefed on the
- 52:45updated risk and expanded
- 52:47responsibilities that would come with
- 52:49operating in proximity to a vest
- 52:51facility. Excuse me. and whether they
- 52:54have formally agreed to accept those
- 52:56responsibilities.
- 52:58Whether there's any data on firefighter
- 53:00attrition, volunteer or otherwise, in
- 53:03communities that have established best
- 53:05evacuation areas and what the projected
- 53:08impact would be on our already strained
- 53:10volunteer department.
- 53:13any independent analysis or commissioned
- 53:15reports on the trajectory of residential
- 53:18property values in best evacuation areas
- 53:21in comparable communities.
- 53:23Any reports or analysis on the effect of
- 53:26best proximity on commercial
- 53:28storefronts, retail vacancy rates, and
- 53:31local business activity in best
- 53:32evacuation areas.
- 53:35any reports or analysis on the domino
- 53:37effect on town centers and village
- 53:39economies within or adjacent to a best
- 53:42evacuation radius including impacts on
- 53:45local businesses, tourism, community
- 53:48investment and quality of life. Any
- 53:51analysis on the potential decrease in
- 53:53property tax and school tax revenue
- 53:55driven by rapid below market home sales
- 53:58in or adjacent to best evacuation radius
- 54:01and what the projected impact would be
- 54:04on school district funding and municipal
- 54:06services.
- 54:09These points have been previously pre
- 54:12have been raised previously and remain
- 54:13unresolved. No decommissioning plan or
- 54:16financial bond from the developer has
- 54:17been made public. whether affected
- 54:19property owners in the evacuation radius
- 54:22received formal notice in a timely
- 54:24fashion prior to these pending approvals
- 54:27and no documentation of alternative
- 54:29sites considered and why residential
- 54:31proximity was chosen. Um if this
- 54:34information uh should be legally
- 54:36available and made readily available to
- 54:38all citizens that this directly impacts.
- 54:41Thank you so much for your time.
- 54:44[applause]
- 54:48Sam Derrick.
- 55:02>> Hi Samantha Dedric, Kings Highway in
- 55:06Soures. I'm speaking here as a resident
- 55:09of soverees who uses electricity.
- 55:13I think that everyone in this room
- 55:15expects to have it. They expect to go
- 55:17home, turn on the lights, do their wash,
- 55:19take a hot shower. And yes, we have a
- 55:22problem. And yes, we're using more
- 55:24electricity.
- 55:26I think New York is using more power on
- 55:28a daily basis. Some of it goes to data
- 55:31centers. Some of it grows to grow
- 55:33population. Some of it just grows to
- 55:35having more and more devices. How many
- 55:37is enough? None. could never say.
- 55:41[snorts]
- 55:43When I first heard of Bess, I was
- 55:46skeptical,
- 55:47but I've studied many, many aspects of
- 55:50the project, and it's my belief that we
- 55:53need batteries to store the solar, wind,
- 55:56and the water power that we're making in
- 55:58the state of New York.
- 56:01Nobody can say
- 56:03energy out of these batteries is going
- 56:05to a data center. The energy in New York
- 56:08State is one pool. We all use it. Nobody
- 56:12knows where it's going, but anybody who
- 56:15turns on their electricity is using the
- 56:18grid power.
- 56:21ISO discussed the central east
- 56:24constraint which slows down power south
- 56:26of Skinity, which means us in the Hudson
- 56:29Valley and beyond in the south.
- 56:33When we have severe weather
- 56:37and needs for doubling our power and it
- 56:41can't come down, that leaves us out.
- 56:44That leaves us with brownouts.
- 56:49We have to store the sustainable energy
- 56:52that we have to avoid fossil fuel
- 56:54generators from being brought online
- 56:56during times of high use.
- 57:01We all use electricity to charge the
- 57:04batteries that we use in our devices.
- 57:06Batteries are batteries. They're not big
- 57:09monster horrible things. If they were,
- 57:11we wouldn't have cars with them. We
- 57:13wouldn't have phones that we sleep with,
- 57:16we carry in our pockets.
- 57:19I believe the safety issues have been
- 57:21met
- 57:23and the technology is being constantly
- 57:25updated. Batteries are for now the best
- 57:28and most economical way to provide the
- 57:30least expensive power to the most amount
- 57:33of consumers.
- 57:35There is a direct impact on the
- 57:37population if the grid goes down.
- 57:41Thank you.
- 57:43[applause]
- 57:51>> Did you ever heard of magic? Do you guys
- 58:00Hi, my name is Bob Der.
- 58:04>> I have to say that I e echo the
- 58:06sentiments of Dr. Schaefer and my wife
- 58:08Samantha behind me. I can't really say
- 58:11too much more about it. I think it's
- 58:13good to be proactive and go forward and
- 58:15not be reactionary and go back. We need
- 58:18to say yes to best.
- 58:22And I think the people that own Winston
- 58:24Farm, they bought it, they own it, they
- 58:26should be able to do what they want with
- 58:28it. Have a good day.
- 58:30>> Thank you,
- 58:34[applause]
- 58:36Susan.
- 58:46>> Hello. Um, I live on Stallone Road. My
- 58:49name is Susan Weekes. I'm speaking as a
- 58:52citizen of sovereignties and the world.
- 58:57I try to be a good citizen. I try to
- 59:01keep up to date with what's going on in
- 59:03the world. It's very difficult and
- 59:05sometimes extremely depressing. And I've
- 59:08been following climate change since
- 59:09James Hansen, former NASA scientist and
- 59:11a leading climate voice um in climate
- 59:14change since 1988, has been speaking out
- 59:17about it. He did speak up about it. Now
- 59:20I'm reading I follow Bill McGibbon. I
- 59:24don't know if you guys know who he is,
- 59:25but he is one of the one of our climate
- 59:28for one of our climate experts and his
- 59:31main issue is climate change in this um
- 59:35and what's going on. To me, it's an
- 59:36existential pull the microphone down.
- 59:39>> Okay. To me, it's an existential issue.
- 59:41It's a an overriding existential issue
- 59:44that if we don't pay attention to, our
- 59:46head is in the sands. Okay.
- 59:49Um, Bill McGibbon says, "We have one
- 59:51tool to keep CO2 out of the atmosphere,
- 59:54the substitution of clean energy for
- 59:56fossil fuels. Our weapons in this fight
- 59:59are solar panels, wind turbines, and
- 1:00:02batteries. We need to crash them into
- 1:00:05place before these systems of
- 1:00:07accelerating climate change which is
- 1:00:09accelerating really fast now given
- 1:00:10what's going given the climate denial
- 1:00:13that den denial people we have in in
- 1:00:16government now before the generating
- 1:00:19accelerating climate change crashes down
- 1:00:20upon us that is our job now and that's
- 1:00:24building
- 1:00:27um Paul Krugman is someone I also follow
- 1:00:30he is a Nobel Prize winning economist
- 1:00:34Paul Grubin says, "We aren't just
- 1:00:36burning fossil fuels. We are burning our
- 1:00:38future." And I care about the future. I
- 1:00:40care about the future of our children
- 1:00:41and grandchildren. I care about the
- 1:00:43planet we do. Paul Krubman also says,
- 1:00:46"Let me talk uh let me take an optimism
- 1:00:49break and talk about why batteries may
- 1:00:51save the world. The decline in battery
- 1:00:54prices has been incredible. It's like
- 1:00:56nothing anyone has ever seen before. Why
- 1:00:58does this matter?" Remember, this is an
- 1:01:00economist speaking. Cheap battery
- 1:01:02[snorts] storage greatly mitigates the
- 1:01:04problem of intermittency which we have
- 1:01:06with wind and solar.
- 1:01:09>> Um battery performance and safety has
- 1:01:11soared as prices have plunge.
- 1:01:14>> We can expect continuing rapid
- 1:01:17improvement in renewable energy to
- 1:01:19mitigate the remaining risk and improve
- 1:01:22efficiency.
- 1:01:25In other words, I think that it's an
- 1:01:27urgent matter that we accept
- 1:01:30best as one of the tools we have in our
- 1:01:32toolbox to mitigate climate change.
- 1:01:36>> And thank you, Stephen, for your um your
- 1:01:39exposition on that. That was part of my
- 1:01:42part of my reasoning, too.
- 1:01:43>> Others
- 1:01:45over there.
- 1:01:47>> And I I do believe that we need to
- 1:01:49mitigate the risks. Whatever risk might
- 1:01:52be, we need to to have um we have to
- 1:01:55knowledge, we have to have
- 1:01:56understanding, we have to mitigate any
- 1:01:59sound risk, we have to mitigate any
- 1:02:01risks that might occur. But I believe
- 1:02:02that the safety issues have been
- 1:02:04addressed in the new generations of
- 1:02:06batteries
- 1:02:06>> that alarm. Thank you. [applause]
- 1:02:13>> That exhaust the list of speakers who
- 1:02:15signed up. Is there anyone who did not
- 1:02:17have a chance to sign up to address the
- 1:02:19board?
- 1:02:22Okay, move on
- 1:02:25>> to supervisor's comments.
- 1:02:28>> Green and clean is still happening. You
- 1:02:30have time this week to visit the town
- 1:02:34clerk's office, sign up and collect
- 1:02:36bags. You and your neighbors can go out
- 1:02:39uh clean the side of the road or an area
- 1:02:41that has been littered over the winter
- 1:02:43and our transportation employees will
- 1:02:45come out and pick it up on Monday and
- 1:02:47Tuesday. So, a great opportunity to help
- 1:02:51um before the grass gets thick. So, that
- 1:02:54that opportunity exists in the next
- 1:02:55couple days. Please take advantage of
- 1:02:57it. We've I want to compliment the
- 1:02:58community. We've had uh a pretty
- 1:03:01overwhelming interest this year. Great.
- 1:03:03>> A lot of folks signed up.
- 1:03:05>> So, a lot of folks have signed up
- 1:03:07already. Uh you might see the green bags
- 1:03:09on the side of the road,
- 1:03:11>> red bags on the side. Thank you. And uh
- 1:03:14you know, it's an opportunity for you to
- 1:03:15participate as well. All right. As for
- 1:03:18approval of minutes pre-board meeting of
- 1:03:204126, town board meeting of 4126.
- 1:03:24>> Motion.
- 1:03:25>> Thank you. Shino discussion. All those
- 1:03:28in favor say I.
- 1:03:30>> Any opposed? Motion will carry. There's
- 1:03:34for approval of bills.
- 1:03:40>> General fund 135,259.90.
- 1:03:47General outside village $7,5244
- 1:03:52highway $35,93785
- 1:03:57capital projects
- 1:03:59$10,577
- 1:04:02lighting district $139,7342
- 1:04:07sewer operation and maintenance
- 1:04:09$139,2258
- 1:04:14water operation maintenance $1.7 7
- 1:04:18Central Hudson $37,134.92.
- 1:04:22Is there a second?
- 1:04:23>> Second.
- 1:04:24>> Thank you, Mr. Stur. Any discussion?
- 1:04:27Those in favor say I.
- 1:04:29>> I.
- 1:04:29>> I.
- 1:04:30>> Thank you. Any opposed? Motion carries.
- 1:04:33Move on to department head reports.
- 1:04:36Chief SW.
- 1:04:39>> I sent a monthly to Lisa before meeting.
- 1:04:42So I have that staff there from the
- 1:04:43department. Uh we just finished up a
- 1:04:46multi jurisdictional rifle course, a
- 1:04:49breath analysis course
- 1:04:51this week during final practice
- 1:04:53construction.
- 1:04:54We were able to participate in uh groups
- 1:04:57for inclusion last Friday. was a really
- 1:04:59good event with the Tigers Special
- 1:05:02Olympics basketball team that played
- 1:05:03against.
- 1:05:12>> Oh, over the last two weeks, we've been
- 1:05:14changing the touchback readers in the
- 1:05:16mountain district to flex read to make
- 1:05:19it easier to read for us. We can read
- 1:05:22from the vehicle rather than going
- 1:05:24house.
- 1:05:26We're done doing that. We're going to
- 1:05:28continue hydrants in the water district
- 1:05:30and then continue on to
- 1:05:37shout out to you and your staff on the
- 1:05:42>> Mr.
- 1:05:44Good evening. Um, all the plows have
- 1:05:47been taken off the trucks. Um, they've
- 1:05:50been washed. The trucks have been
- 1:05:52thoroughly washed. The tops of the
- 1:05:53trucks, they have went through washers
- 1:05:56to wash the bottom of the trucks. So,
- 1:05:58we're hoping we're pretty much past the
- 1:06:01winter and we don't get any more bad
- 1:06:02weather. Um, Monday we started uh
- 1:06:06plateau mountain road. That road will
- 1:06:10still be closed down for probably
- 1:06:12another four weeks. Um, I've been in
- 1:06:15contact daily with the honor
- 1:06:17superintendent. Uh, they have some bad
- 1:06:20washouts on the road that they are
- 1:06:21addressing. Uh, their washouts are more
- 1:06:25entailed than what we're doing. Uh we're
- 1:06:27milling the road. We're reclaiming the
- 1:06:29road. And then we're going to repave it
- 1:06:32from the bottom of the hill towards the
- 1:06:34town line.
- 1:06:35>> Stupid road.
- 1:06:36>> Um and also on a we have three sweepers
- 1:06:40out um for clean up on yards and uh
- 1:06:44roads and stuff. So most of all the yard
- 1:06:48repairs have been done. We had four
- 1:06:51crews out on that for the last three,
- 1:06:53four weeks. Most of that is done now.
- 1:06:57We also have the sweepers out. Um
- 1:07:00hopefully in another week or two we'll
- 1:07:02have all the rows done
- 1:07:04swept for the first time and then we'll
- 1:07:07go back around and uh the rows that had
- 1:07:10extra heavy stuff on we'll do it. If
- 1:07:13anybody had any roads that wasn't done
- 1:07:16or any yards that they feel wasn't
- 1:07:18addressed properly, please feel free to
- 1:07:20call the office and myself or my
- 1:07:23assistant will come out and look at it
- 1:07:25and I'm sure we will.
- 1:07:28>> Thank you.
- 1:07:30Any missing department heads?
- 1:07:34>> All right, move on to board committee
- 1:07:35reports. Mr. Bar.
- 1:07:37>> Uh yes. Um, April 17th, as I've said
- 1:07:41earlier, uh, the library is having a
- 1:07:43celebrate library day that's coming up,
- 1:07:46I guess, in two days. It's at the
- 1:07:48library at 6 p.m. Um, there will be a
- 1:07:51presentation by just
- 1:07:53>> giving us the history of the SE library.
- 1:07:55It goes back quite a bit further than I
- 1:07:58thought. Uh,
- 1:08:00early 1800s, actually. Um anyway,
- 1:08:04promise to be a really good historical
- 1:08:06lecture and uh there'll be the executive
- 1:08:08director from the Hudson Valley uh
- 1:08:10Library Association there
- 1:08:12>> and Hudson Library System.
- 1:08:14>> Thank you, Tim. Hudson Library System.
- 1:08:17Um I want to say a few words now about
- 1:08:20the uh conservation advisory committee.
- 1:08:25So um the part of the climate smart uh
- 1:08:30task force is the uh repair cafe. Uh the
- 1:08:34repair cafe was u uh held in um
- 1:08:41March 7th. But I just want to say what
- 1:08:43what the great thing that they served 80
- 1:08:45guests. Um they repaired a stunning 121
- 1:08:49items. Um over 26 items. Uh
- 1:08:54that um thanks to the donations from the
- 1:08:57community, they were able to provide
- 1:08:59lunch for the for the people
- 1:09:03repairing items and to buy kits for them
- 1:09:06to help them in in doing that. Uh they
- 1:09:08repaired things such as lamp parts,
- 1:09:11sewing and mending supplies, jewelry um
- 1:09:15uh well these are the kits, jewelry
- 1:09:17repair kits, glues of various kinds. Um
- 1:09:21they repaired everything from uh they
- 1:09:23did knife, scissors, sharpening, leather
- 1:09:25stitching, doll stitching, gluing,
- 1:09:28zippers, a wide variety of things. It
- 1:09:30was a big success. They should be having
- 1:09:32another one sometime in June. Um I heard
- 1:09:35you watch the calendar [snorts] for
- 1:09:38that.
- 1:09:42>> Thank you, Mr. Bar. Mr.
- 1:09:44Hey, the uh last week the TV23 committee
- 1:09:47met uh we have uh a number of applicants
- 1:09:51for the position of the new program
- 1:09:54director. All the committee members
- 1:09:56receive the resumeumés for those
- 1:09:58applications and uh are going to be
- 1:10:01ranking them and then we will be
- 1:10:05conducting interviews within the next
- 1:10:07two weeks, two to three weeks and
- 1:10:09hopefully have a new program director
- 1:10:11for TV23.
- 1:10:13So things are moving along. Uh a special
- 1:10:16thanks again tonight to one of our
- 1:10:18committee members, Mr. Lopez, who is
- 1:10:20filming. Um volunteered to do this. And
- 1:10:24because
- 1:10:27Jorge is here, these meetings are
- 1:10:30available now on the town website and
- 1:10:33people who are not on online or you're
- 1:10:35not here in person, you can access them
- 1:10:38through your computer.
- 1:10:41Um last night the sorghes transportation
- 1:10:44advisory committee met. Uh we have that
- 1:10:47is a committee that's made up of both
- 1:10:49village like TV23 both village and town
- 1:10:52representatives. Uh one of the items
- 1:10:56presented last night was the
- 1:10:58construction by DOT of sidewalks. If you
- 1:11:01were went down towards the Ryan house
- 1:11:05and if you headed down towards South on
- 1:11:07[clears throat] 9W today, you can see
- 1:11:09the beginning of the work for new
- 1:11:11sidewalk walks that do is putting in. Uh
- 1:11:15on the village and town website, there
- 1:11:17is a map showing you the progression of
- 1:11:19the sidewalks. We have not heard yet
- 1:11:22back about our tap side path project,
- 1:11:26but I'm hoping that because DOT is
- 1:11:29putting in sidewalks that the next step
- 1:11:33would be the side path and fingers
- 1:11:36crossed that this would be hopefully
- 1:11:38make our grant application more
- 1:11:41successful. Um, as far as
- 1:11:44>> there are going to be traffic delays
- 1:11:47>> during construction. There are going to
- 1:11:48be traffic delays. Today was the first
- 1:11:51day they kind of experienced that. But
- 1:11:53that project's going to last for a
- 1:11:55while. It's going to go from Seaman Park
- 1:11:57all the way to the church. So, as they
- 1:11:59go through that,
- 1:12:01>> during construction hours, there's going
- 1:12:02to be quite a bit of traffic going.
- 1:12:05>> Yeah. You can you can see the base where
- 1:12:08they digging out to put the the
- 1:12:10sidewalks in. Uh we also learned last
- 1:12:13night that on July 4th, which is going
- 1:12:16to be a big huge celebration here to
- 1:12:18celebrate the 250th anniversary, there
- 1:12:21will be a race uh prior to the parade
- 1:12:26that people can sign up for. Um it's
- 1:12:30just what was it? 5K
- 1:12:33>> and it'll go along the parade route and
- 1:12:38uh you know for people coming into the
- 1:12:40village coming into the town of Sorades
- 1:12:43it's another special event basically for
- 1:12:45Fourth of July. So just keep that in
- 1:12:49mind if you have travel plans to come in
- 1:12:52and see the parade that there will be a
- 1:12:555K going on. I think it starts around
- 1:12:579:00 in the morning. Um the night of
- 1:13:00July 3rd, there will be a food truck
- 1:13:04festival at Cantine Field. There will be
- 1:13:07a band in the large pavilion and there
- 1:13:10will also be craft vendors there to kick
- 1:13:12off the weekend. Also on the weekend,
- 1:13:15the historical society is going to be
- 1:13:17open on the 4th. The American Legion
- 1:13:21will have uh special events going on.
- 1:13:24Legion Hall to showcase the museum which
- 1:13:27is on the second floor of Legion Post
- 1:13:3072. Uh there'll be uh red, white, and
- 1:13:33blue cupcakes and snow cones available
- 1:13:36free of charge on the lawn of the
- 1:13:38Kirsten house and the house will be open
- 1:13:41also for viewing. So
- 1:13:45>> also the big parade. Um, I I think you
- 1:13:48can anticipate more floats and more
- 1:13:51bands to celebrate the upcoming
- 1:13:54anniversary.
- 1:13:56Um,
- 1:13:57there's also uh the arts commission.
- 1:14:01Um, there is there's so much going on
- 1:14:04this Friday night at the um
- 1:14:09across from Mnt Bank. There's going to
- 1:14:11be an art collage, uh, a mural
- 1:14:14presentation, and unfortunately, it's
- 1:14:16the same time as the library program at
- 1:14:196:00. So, you can't say you have nothing
- 1:14:22to do on a Friday night in Sarities.
- 1:14:24There's, you know, go on the website.
- 1:14:26There's so many things happening in the
- 1:14:28village now that spring is here. And the
- 1:14:32art work for the street art will be
- 1:14:36showcased. I believe it's going to be at
- 1:14:38Stone Coney in a couple of weeks. Stay
- 1:14:41just keep track on the website. Uh
- 1:14:45you'll be able to get a sneak preview of
- 1:14:47all of the the new dogs that'll be
- 1:14:49gracing our streets within the next
- 1:14:52month.
- 1:14:55>> Thank you.
- 1:14:55>> Oh, I have one more thing.
- 1:14:57>> Sorry, [laughter]
- 1:14:59>> it's right in front of me. How could I
- 1:15:00forget it? Um you all know what a splash
- 1:15:03pad is. You're probably sick of having
- 1:15:05me talk about every meeting, but we are
- 1:15:07having a Brooks barbecue on Thursday
- 1:15:10night, May 21st from 4 to 7:00 p.m. It's
- 1:15:15going to be at the large pavilion at
- 1:15:16Canheim Field. And if you prepay, it's a
- 1:15:20bargain. It's only $16. And if you pay
- 1:15:23at the door, it's $18. And uh you can
- 1:15:26get your tickets at Town and Country
- 1:15:28Liquors, at Sawyer Savings, uh not
- 1:15:31Sawyer, Sawyer Motors. um village hall
- 1:15:35and town hall and there's posters
- 1:15:39>> that are be all over. It's on the
- 1:15:41website and if you are one of the
- 1:15:45members of the community like my
- 1:15:47daughter who doesn't carry cash, oh mom,
- 1:15:49everything is Venmo. You Venmo
- 1:15:51everything. Um that's the the younger
- 1:15:54generation. That's how they they do
- 1:15:56things. So the Venmo is right on the
- 1:15:59poster. So, if you're a Venmo shopper,
- 1:16:02you can order your barbecue tickets.
- 1:16:04Last year, we sold out. We're committed
- 1:16:07to sell 500 this year. And please
- 1:16:10support the splash pad because I don't
- 1:16:12want to end up having to buy 10 chicken
- 1:16:16dinners and put them in the freezer if
- 1:16:17we can't make our quota. So, uh, if
- 1:16:20you're at the softball field, if you've
- 1:16:22got kids playing games, uh, you know,
- 1:16:26whatever, it's it's great to be able to
- 1:16:28have your softball game. come over to
- 1:16:31the biblian, eat it in, eat in or take
- 1:16:34out and it's for a good cause. We have
- 1:16:37not heard back on our grant application,
- 1:16:39but the committee met on Monday night
- 1:16:42and this is
- 1:16:45>> food truck festival, the Brooks
- 1:16:47Barbecue, and we're also planning an art
- 1:16:50auction the end of August. Bob Sarah
- 1:16:53Casano, who is a very entertaining
- 1:16:55auctioneer, is going to be doing an
- 1:16:57auction. We're going to have it at the
- 1:16:59barn at the Kirstston House and it will
- 1:17:02be art, local artists who will be
- 1:17:04donating their artwork and pieces of
- 1:17:07art. Could be a piece of pottery. So, if
- 1:17:09you know anyone or if you're an artist
- 1:17:11in the audience and you'd like to donate
- 1:17:13and help us raise money for the splash
- 1:17:15pad, um just give me a call.
- 1:17:20>> Thank you.
- 1:17:22>> Uh first report for the animal shelter.
- 1:17:25The new building footings are in as well
- 1:17:27as the foundation walls. Um the
- 1:17:30shelter's taken in a total of 21 intakes
- 1:17:33for March and 20 adoptions. Um for those
- 1:17:38of you who don't know, this time of the
- 1:17:41year is typically considered kitten
- 1:17:42season. Um four of the stray cats that
- 1:17:46they took in were all um pregnant cats
- 1:17:49uh that basically produced 11 more
- 1:17:52kittens. So, I can commend the shelter
- 1:17:55staff, Ellie, Morgan, and Shalon. Um,
- 1:17:58they've basically created a skillful
- 1:18:01group to help uh volunteer and foster
- 1:18:04those um
- 1:18:07kittens and and their mothers um to take
- 1:18:10them out of the shelter and lessen the
- 1:18:12burden of the shelter itself.
- 1:18:16The two fundraising events coming up is
- 1:18:19the Blue Jeans ball on the 23rd at
- 1:18:22Fortune Valley Manor and load them into
- 1:18:24the ambulance with only the push of a
- 1:18:26button.
- 1:18:28Longtime employee Brian Brightop, also a
- 1:18:31volunteer member of the Glasgow Fire
- 1:18:32District, uh will be retiring in the
- 1:18:35near future here. Uh Brian's been a
- 1:18:38pillar to the Diaz ambulance company and
- 1:18:42our emergency service community for many
- 1:18:44years. Um ironically, I had the
- 1:18:47opportunity to work directly handinand
- 1:18:50with Brian yesterday with a very close
- 1:18:52to home major trauma incident. Um you
- 1:18:55know, Brian will pro, you know, be one
- 1:18:57of the ones that will truly be missed.
- 1:19:00uh who's been part of what I consider
- 1:19:02probably the most extraordinary group of
- 1:19:04first responders around. Um
- 1:19:08so I I hope Brian enjoys his retirement
- 1:19:10to its fullest and uh commend him on a
- 1:19:14on a great career.
- 1:19:16There's a blood drive on the 18th from 1
- 1:19:19to 7 at Cedar Grove Firehouse on 32 May
- 1:19:2218th. Um, I urge those who can donate,
- 1:19:26please donate.
- 1:19:29And, uh, the garlic festival planning
- 1:19:31committee is well underway. If you're
- 1:19:33looking to volunteer as a Kuanas member
- 1:19:35and join a great effort, check out the,
- 1:19:38uh, sorry website and, uh, get engaged
- 1:19:41there. That's it.
- 1:19:43>> Thank you, Ambassador.
- 1:19:45>> Is this on?
- 1:19:52Uh I'm reporting on the uh meeting of
- 1:19:55the housing advisory uh committee which
- 1:19:58occurred on April 6. Uh the housing
- 1:20:02advisory committee if you're not
- 1:20:04familiar like already was created under
- 1:20:08county's housing smart communities
- 1:20:09program and it worked to promote
- 1:20:12affordable housing that is tailored to
- 1:20:14the particular needs and context of our
- 1:20:17community. Uh, one of their ongoing
- 1:20:19projects is a community action campaign
- 1:20:21which brings information in a variety of
- 1:20:25uh, venues and opportunities um, about
- 1:20:29affordable housing solutions uh, brings
- 1:20:31that information to our community. Um,
- 1:20:34that's uh relevant now because this
- 1:20:37coming Earth Week, which begins on
- 1:20:39Friday, will feature a tableabling event
- 1:20:42on in addition to a a slew of great
- 1:20:45activities, it'll feature a tableabling
- 1:20:46event on Sunday, April 26th at the
- 1:20:50corner of Maine and Market, uh, where
- 1:20:53along with nonprofit groups tableabling,
- 1:20:56members of the housing advisory
- 1:20:57committee will have a table there from
- 1:20:5910:00 a.m. at 4 p.m. and they look
- 1:21:01forward to sharing information about
- 1:21:04their work and hearing from uh any
- 1:21:06visitors to their table about uh your
- 1:21:10experiences in navigating uh the housing
- 1:21:12market in so anything else you want to
- 1:21:15share or talk about regarding housing.
- 1:21:17Um you can visit the Earth Day Week
- 1:21:19website for the full lineup which is
- 1:21:21soarweek.org
- 1:21:24and that's all from me.
- 1:21:26>> Okay, thank you. All right, we'll move
- 1:21:29on to motions and resolutions. Mr.
- 1:21:31>> Motion to approve the proclamation as on
- 1:21:33file pertaining to May as American
- 1:21:36Legion Popping.
- 1:21:38Second discussion.
- 1:21:41This is an annual event for the American
- 1:21:42Legion.
- 1:21:44You know those feature a very fine young
- 1:21:47lady and they if you can buy a poppy it
- 1:21:50helps the activities over there. Any
- 1:21:53further discussion?
- 1:21:56>> Mr. Bar.
- 1:21:57>> Yes.
- 1:21:57>> Mr.
- 1:21:58Yes.
- 1:21:58>> Mr. Vino,
- 1:21:59>> yes. Mr.
- 1:22:00>> Sper,
- 1:22:01>> yes.
- 1:22:03>> Uh, I move to approve the memorandum of
- 1:22:05agreement as on trial between the town
- 1:22:07of Sardies and the Communications
- 1:22:09Workers of America, CWA.
- 1:22:12>> Second.
- 1:22:13>> Thank you, Mr.
- 1:22:15Discussion. Um, we've this was all
- 1:22:20negotiations have their own story to
- 1:22:22them. Uh, this one was I found very
- 1:22:25unique. Mr. sermon as we partner in
- 1:22:27negotiating. Uh we think we came to a a
- 1:22:31fair agreement with our staff in the
- 1:22:34union. Uh this will extend for four
- 1:22:37years so bring relative peace and uh
- 1:22:41give us the opportunity our budget
- 1:22:42season to know what our labor costs are
- 1:22:45going to look like for the coming year.
- 1:22:48>> Further discussion.
- 1:22:50>> Mr. Bar.
- 1:22:51>> I vote yes.
- 1:22:52>> Mr. Thoren.
- 1:22:53>> Yes.
- 1:22:53>> Mr. Aino.
- 1:22:54>> Yes.
- 1:22:54>> I Oh, sorry. Miss Bassler.
- 1:22:56>> Yes.
- 1:22:57>> I move.
- 1:22:58>> I'd like to make a motion to authorize a
- 1:23:00refund of $200 to Elizabeth Reese
- 1:23:03related to the denial of a zoning board
- 1:23:06of appeals interpretation fee pertaining
- 1:23:09to a proposed battery storage energy
- 1:23:12storage system that would be developed
- 1:23:14uh by Key Capture Energy and located at
- 1:23:177,000 roadies, New York on premises
- 1:23:20owned by excuse me realy holdings. Uh I
- 1:23:24I LLC SPL number 18.1-4-5-100
- 1:23:32second
- 1:23:34>> discussion
- 1:23:36speaker itself
- 1:23:39>> Mr. Bar.
- 1:23:41>> Yes.
- 1:23:41>> Mr. Sto.
- 1:23:42>> Yes.
- 1:23:42>> Mr. Aino.
- 1:23:43>> Yes.
- 1:23:44>> M. Basser.
- 1:23:44>> Yes.
- 1:23:45as
- 1:23:46>> like to make a motion to approve the
- 1:23:48resolution adopting local law number
- 1:23:50three of 2026
- 1:23:53regarding amending chapter 190 of the
- 1:23:56municipal code sewer use law.
- 1:23:59>> Second discussion we held public hearing
- 1:24:02earlier this evening regarding this
- 1:24:03topic modification
- 1:24:06was requested by DEC's best practices.
- 1:24:11We came across a deficiency in
- 1:24:14preparation for grant application.
- 1:24:16Upon adoption of this, we will be
- 1:24:19reflecting what DC prescribes as best
- 1:24:21practice.
- 1:24:22>> Any further discussion?
- 1:24:24>> Mr. Bar,
- 1:24:26>> yes.
- 1:24:26>> Mr. Thur,
- 1:24:27>> yes. Mr.
- 1:24:28>> Yes. Master,
- 1:24:29>> yes.
- 1:24:30>> I vote yes.
- 1:24:32like to make a motion to declare as
- 1:24:34surplus and no longer of use to town
- 1:24:36surgeries
- 1:24:372017
- 1:24:39bin number 1 FM5
- 1:24:43K8B
- 1:24:4485H
- 1:24:46GB8
- 1:24:483315
- 1:24:49as per the recommendation of the
- 1:24:51building department
- 1:24:52>> second discussion
- 1:24:54we were able to replace this vehicle
- 1:24:58with a F-150 Lightning which is the EV
- 1:25:01vehicle Our building department is now
- 1:25:03using that as part of their fleet to go
- 1:25:05to inspection sites. Uh the funding for
- 1:25:08this vehicle came through our climate
- 1:25:12smart task force and a grant that they
- 1:25:15were able to secure giving us $100,000
- 1:25:18to do things that will reduce our carbon
- 1:25:21footprint. So this is a great use and I
- 1:25:24think this vehicle is going to be very
- 1:25:28lasting. Uh the EVs the regenerative
- 1:25:32gring and stuff uh seems to last longer
- 1:25:36and need a little bit less meat and so
- 1:25:38we think this is going to be a great
- 1:25:39addition to the building department and
- 1:25:41look forward to having another
- 1:25:42opportunity to expand our fleet this
- 1:25:45way.
- 1:25:46>> Any further discussion?
- 1:25:48>> Mr. Barino,
- 1:25:52>> yes.
- 1:25:53>> Master,
- 1:25:54>> yes.
- 1:25:55>> Yes. Motion to authorize the building
- 1:25:57inspector to dispose of and award to the
- 1:25:59highest bidder 2017 Ford Explorer bin
- 1:26:02number 1 FM 5K 8B85HGB
- 1:26:0883315
- 1:26:10via auctions international
- 1:26:12>> second [clears throat] discussion
- 1:26:16>> Mr. Bar
- 1:26:19>> yes
- 1:26:19>> Mr.
- 1:26:20Yes.
- 1:26:20>> Miss Fler.
- 1:26:21>> Yes.
- 1:26:22>> Yes. Miss anything?
- 1:26:24>> No.
- 1:26:25>> No. Okay.
- 1:26:26>> Any motion to journ
- 1:26:29discussions? Unfortunately,
- 1:26:32opportunity's been uh a little bit
- 1:26:34rocked by the passing of a number of our
- 1:26:36members. We share their names and uh
- 1:26:39please join us in a brief moment of
- 1:26:41silence.
- 1:26:43Paul Farisana whose family runs bread
- 1:26:46distribution company here in s east.
- 1:26:49Anna Jones whose family has been deeply
- 1:26:53involved in Mount Mar district and many
- 1:26:55athletic organizations here at Cantine
- 1:26:58to include
- 1:27:00their family used to own town hall and
- 1:27:03was a shirt factory. They long
- 1:27:05outstanding members very untimely
- 1:27:07passing. Sarah Joan Grant
- 1:27:10relative of Francel family many people
- 1:27:13know their involvement in the long
- 1:27:15tenure of George Francella Jenner for
- 1:27:19half
- 1:27:20>> Halfway.
- 1:27:22So, uh, she was the mother-in-law of a
- 1:27:26retired police officer, Jeremy Escowski,
- 1:27:28and RJ Macau, who, uh, was deeply
- 1:27:31involved in the Irish community here in
- 1:27:33the Series, but also played an
- 1:27:35instrumental role in helping out at the
- 1:27:38court with some conflict resolution and
- 1:27:40some translation work. Please take a
- 1:27:43moment with us to uh, share their
- 1:27:45memory.
- 1:27:56Okay, thank you. Our next scheduled
- 1:27:58meeting is Wednesday, May 6, 2026.
- 1:28:01Pre-board meeting at 6:30 p.m. Town
- 1:28:03Board meeting at 7:00 p.m. All those in
- 1:28:05favor, say I.
- 1:28:08>> Any opposed?
- 1:28:09>> Motion carries. Thank you all for
- 1:28:11coming.
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