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2026 04 15 Saugerties Town Board Meeting — Transcript

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  1. 0:05Good evening everyone. Welcome to our
  2. 0:07regularly scheduled April
  3. 0:1015th meeting. Uh please join the town
  4. 0:12clerk for pledge of meeting pledge of
  5. 0:14allegiance
  6. 0:22of the United States of America and to
  7. 0:25the republic for which it stands. One
  8. 0:28nation under God, indivisible, with
  9. 0:30liberty and justice for all.
  10. 0:41>> Good evening everyone. Um we have
  11. 0:44>> is that better or is he
  12. 0:47>> better? Uh we have privilege of the
  13. 0:50floor this evening uh sies community and
  14. 0:53stop energy storage.
  15. 0:56So white is Elizabeth.
  16. 1:01>> Start your presentation and we can shut
  17. 1:03off the lights as well.
  18. 1:05>> Is this the mic to use?
  19. 1:07>> Yep.
  20. 1:11>> Like that.
  21. 1:13>> Yeah, I think that's good.
  22. 1:16That's it.
  23. 1:32>> Go.
  24. 1:34>> Actually, you're on Elizabeth's queue
  25. 1:36right now.
  26. 1:53Good evening. I'm Dia from West
  27. 1:55Sogerties and I'm going to launch right
  28. 1:57in. Please stand if you support this
  29. 2:01petition signed by 514 people and
  30. 2:05counting.
  31. 2:07We, the undersigned residents, call on
  32. 2:09the town of Sogerties to reject the
  33. 2:12proposed press project on Thompson Road
  34. 2:16and prohibit largecale battery storage
  35. 2:19facilities in our community. They raise
  36. 2:22serious concerns about fire, explosion
  37. 2:25risk, environmental water impacts,
  38. 2:28noise, traffic, property values,
  39. 2:32community character. Under secret, the
  40. 2:35town board must take a hard look at
  41. 2:39impacts. We demand the town board and
  42. 2:42planning board deny any and all
  43. 2:45applications for the Thompson's Road
  44. 2:47best or any largecale BES facilities.
  45. 2:52Amend the town code to prohibit BEST pro
  46. 2:56projects.
  47. 2:57And if the town refuses to do this, we
  48. 3:00ask that you enact a moratorum on all
  49. 3:04largecale beds facilities.
  50. 3:07Thank you all for being here.
  51. 3:12We call on you to rebuild community
  52. 3:14trust,
  53. 3:16commitment to secret guidelines,
  54. 3:22delaying further planning board
  55. 3:26reviews until reszoning is complete,
  56. 3:29then accept an application from the
  57. 3:31developer.
  58. 3:36avoiding segmentation
  59. 3:39with combined
  60. 3:42projects on the Thompson's Road site.
  61. 3:46Evaluating local impacts, including
  62. 3:49environmental
  63. 3:53resubmission of complete application
  64. 3:56package, not missing or fillers in
  65. 3:58there. Transparency
  66. 4:02commit to follow New York open meeting
  67. 4:05laws. with proper notification of public
  68. 4:09meetings, including materials to be
  69. 4:13discussed and documentation when
  70. 4:16requested as legally required.
  71. 4:20>> Public records.
  72. 4:26>> Sorry, it's hard to read without the
  73. 4:28light. Uh, approval should follow
  74. 4:31analysis, not precede it. This isn't
  75. 4:35only about being for or against best.
  76. 4:39It's about making sure the impacts are
  77. 4:41fully understood before making further
  78. 4:45decisions.
  79. 4:50This is about CDC and best working
  80. 4:53committee.
  81. 4:55The uh CAC was established by the town
  82. 4:58board in 1972.
  83. 5:01Its duties under New York law are
  84. 5:04provide technical environmental advice,
  85. 5:08review projects for wetland habitat,
  86. 5:12water resources, land disturbance,
  87. 5:15vegetation removal, ecological impact,
  88. 5:19and maintain an inventory of natural
  89. 5:22resources and issue recommendations to
  90. 5:25the planning board, ZBA, and town board.
  91. 5:29And the the best working group, the
  92. 5:32opaque best working group, unknown
  93. 5:35authority, mission statement, unknown,
  94. 5:39deliverables, unknown, participants,
  95. 5:42unknown, public meeting, unknown.
  96. 5:46No meeting minutes or materials that are
  97. 5:49being reviewed.
  98. 5:52Request combined consideration to avoid
  99. 5:55segmentation. Request positive
  100. 5:57determination for state environmental
  101. 6:00quality review.
  102. 6:03Request complete transparency as per
  103. 6:07open meeting laws.
  104. 6:13>> Oh yeah. Hi, my name's Elizabeth Reese.
  105. 6:15I live in Sies on Elm Street where I've
  106. 6:18lived for over 20 years and I'm very
  107. 6:21concerned about this project and the
  108. 6:23impact on our community and the
  109. 6:25surrounding other towns. Uh an overview
  110. 6:28of Thompson project. Uh the the battery
  111. 6:31facility is ultimately owned by the SK
  112. 6:35Group which is a foreignowned South
  113. 6:36Korean congratulate
  114. 6:38and and it's using a single purpose uh
  115. 6:41LLC uh to limit liability. The solar
  116. 6:45farm that's also going in adjacent to it
  117. 6:48is owned by the Mitsubishi Corp, which
  118. 6:50is also a foreignowned Japanese
  119. 6:52conglomerate uh a sing and under a
  120. 6:55singlepurpose LLC. And also there's a
  121. 6:58major substation upgrade that's going to
  122. 7:00be needed to support this project that I
  123. 7:02haven't heard anybody talk about. Uh I
  124. 7:06happen to uh come across it. Uh which is
  125. 7:08owned by Foris, which is also a
  126. 7:10foreignowned Canadian conglomerate.
  127. 7:14uh between them there's a huge combined
  128. 7:16scale of development that's going to
  129. 7:18happen up on Thompson's Road uh
  130. 7:20potentially 100 acres with
  131. 7:22deforestation. Uh the battery facility
  132. 7:26um is going to have the battery plus
  133. 7:29solar is initial build of 35 plus acres
  134. 7:32with over 25 acres of deforestation.
  135. 7:35Um significant local impacts on health
  136. 7:38and safety, environment, the tourist
  137. 7:40economy, noise, continuous operation
  138. 7:4224/7,
  139. 7:44136 battery containers, 10 football seal
  140. 7:47fields, subies and early adopter at this
  141. 7:51flagship scale. The segmentation issues,
  142. 7:54which is where related projects are
  143. 7:56reviewed separately to minimize the
  144. 7:58realistic combined impact on our
  145. 8:00community. [clears throat] And there's
  146. 8:02also this undisclosed major substation
  147. 8:04upgrade that's going to be needed to
  148. 8:06facilitate this privatelyowned battery
  149. 8:09storage facility which is going to be
  150. 8:12100 megawatt
  151. 8:14with along with an industrial uh size
  152. 8:17solar farm which is unclear if they're
  153. 8:19going to use batteries. They were then
  154. 8:21they said publicly they wouldn't and
  155. 8:23then an official said that they were. Um
  156. 8:26there's going to be shared access roads
  157. 8:27and on the records these companies have
  158. 8:29been asked to coordinate um zoning
  159. 8:32classifications required about jointly
  160. 8:34and they're within 500 ft of homes in
  161. 8:36the village boundaries. We are
  162. 8:38requesting transparency and that the
  163. 8:41total impact be evaluated u as per law
  164. 8:45um we want to avoid segmentation. Uh and
  165. 8:48we're requesting a positive sequel
  166. 8:50determination.
  167. 8:52Uh and here's an overview of the of the
  168. 8:55facilities. Uh you see it's over a
  169. 8:57100red acres combined. If you add in the
  170. 9:00um central Hudson location, which will
  171. 9:02require extensive work, uh it's larger
  172. 9:04than that. Uh the the Central Hudson
  173. 9:08substation, which was an upgrade fairly
  174. 9:10recently, is also going to have to be
  175. 9:12upgraded too. These projects are not
  176. 9:14plugandplay. They routinely require
  177. 9:16significant grid upgrades. This matters
  178. 9:18because the current substation is only 7
  179. 9:2069 kilovolt which is uh not transmission
  180. 9:24level for vault transmission uh
  181. 9:27requiring significant upgrades expanded
  182. 9:29footprints with additional construction
  183. 9:31environmental impacts and deforestation.
  184. 9:34Custowide upgrade cost will be between$1
  185. 9:37to2 billion. So don't imagine any of
  186. 9:40your bills are going to be going down
  187. 9:41anytime soon. The substation upgrades
  188. 9:44will require local transmission
  189. 9:46upgrades, system level upgrades and and
  190. 9:48regional grid up upgrades. Uh the final
  191. 9:51scope uh would have been determined
  192. 9:53through NISO phase one. However, the
  193. 9:55battery application is missing any
  194. 9:57reference to uh the the need for any of
  195. 10:00these upgrades including input from a
  196. 10:03phase one NSO uh survey. Uh typically
  197. 10:07these kind of battery facilities are in
  198. 10:09uh industrial substation energy cor
  199. 10:12corridors and not in semi-ural and near
  200. 10:15residential and village boundaries. Uh
  201. 10:17typically there are already major
  202. 10:20transmission nodes but we don't have one
  203. 10:22that would support this. Uh typically
  204. 10:24the grid is uh built uh from the ground
  205. 10:26up to enable this. Here it's
  206. 10:28opportunistic land driven sighting. Uh
  207. 10:31typically uh this is treated as a major
  208. 10:34infrastructure whereas here it's being
  209. 10:36treat treated locally as if it's just a
  210. 10:38standard building a house no big deal.
  211. 10:46>> We have concerns about the application
  212. 10:48as it was submitted uh and how it's been
  213. 10:51handled. Expanded timeline, stealth
  214. 10:53introduction, lack of true community
  215. 10:55engagement, industry back infosuation
  216. 10:59consultants, insufficient independent
  217. 11:01analysis, difficulty getting most
  218. 11:03requested project documentation despite
  219. 11:05multiple foil requests with actually no
  220. 11:07acknowledgement on most of them. Uh
  221. 11:10combined impact of these projects is not
  222. 11:12being publicly considered. The number of
  223. 11:13containers is being minimized in the key
  224. 11:15caption handouts. Uh so people think
  225. 11:17it's small but in fact it's 136 the size
  226. 11:20of 10 football fields being promoted by
  227. 11:22a rolling band of industry affiliated
  228. 11:24consultants with uh self-interest. The
  229. 11:27final publicly available documentation
  230. 11:30for zoning determination enabling the
  231. 11:32acceptance of this application is
  232. 11:33missing. It's incorrectly unclassified
  233. 11:36uh determining uh determination
  234. 11:39minimizing likelihood of a positive
  235. 11:41sequel determination and full
  236. 11:42environmental reviews. zoning changes
  237. 11:44are being developed in parallel with
  238. 11:46this specific application. Public
  239. 11:49hearings for the new zone should have
  240. 11:50happened prior to this. It's an
  241. 11:52incomplete application of 600 pages, 200
  242. 11:55pages of which duplicated on to make it
  243. 11:58work bigger. Uh the remainder is mostly
  244. 12:01boiler plate.
  245. 12:03Uh there's conflicting acreage
  246. 12:04disturbance, missing sight specific
  247. 12:06emergency response plan. um missing
  248. 12:10storm water pollution protection plan,
  249. 12:12no noise modeling, no noise mitigation,
  250. 12:15aquifer groundwater risks not evaluated
  251. 12:17and the need for the substation buildout
  252. 12:19was not included. We are requesting
  253. 12:21transparency that incremental
  254. 12:23submissions used to lock in vested
  255. 12:25rights and stop and uh they trying to
  256. 12:28get approvals contingent on future
  257. 12:30submissions. Uh that's like pressure to
  258. 12:32approve a blank slate, approve first and
  259. 12:35study later.
  260. 12:37We're concerned about the location. The
  261. 12:39onem impact radius from the proposed
  262. 12:41site includes Pantine Field, Sardines
  263. 12:43High School, and surrounding residential
  264. 12:44neighborhoods. Yet no plumes modeling or
  265. 12:47defined impact zones are provided in the
  266. 12:49current record. There's going to be
  267. 12:51forever impacts on human beings and
  268. 12:53animals, on our land, on our aquifer, on
  269. 12:55our habitat, on animal habitat. There's
  270. 12:58going to be massive deforestation and
  271. 13:00property values and an impact on our
  272. 13:02tourist industry. Significant local
  273. 13:04impacts on health and safety, continuous
  274. 13:07noise operation. SQL requires
  275. 13:10consideration of alter alternatives
  276. 13:12including different locations. Battery
  277. 13:14storage requires great connection but
  278. 13:16are not sight specific to a single
  279. 13:17transformer location especially if that
  280. 13:19transformer cannot actually handle it.
  281. 13:22Proximity is only to reduce the cost to
  282. 13:24the developer. Battery storage response
  283. 13:27times occur in milliseconds and the
  284. 13:28difference in electrical travel time
  285. 13:30over typical sighting distance is
  286. 13:32negligible. We are requesting
  287. 13:34transparency. What alternatives are
  288. 13:36being considered? We're requesting a
  289. 13:38combined consideration to avoid
  290. 13:39segmentation and a positive CO
  291. 13:42determination.
  292. 13:43Uh here's the location. Uh you can see
  293. 13:46um I'm afraid it's a little bit small
  294. 13:49but you can see that all this brown area
  295. 13:51is um is uh soil that uh I'm sorry I
  296. 13:56can't actually see it. Um I'll come back
  297. 14:00to this one another time but you can see
  298. 14:01the massive size of this is this is over
  299. 14:04100 acres. There's aquifer, there's
  300. 14:06wetlands, there's actually swamplands as
  301. 14:09well.
  302. 14:10>> Um
  303. 14:13>> okay.
  304. 14:18So, I'm not going to go and read point
  305. 14:20for point, but a lot of the safety
  306. 14:22concerns have been outlined on this
  307. 14:23slide, and we can make the materials
  308. 14:25available for whoever afterwards.
  309. 14:27>> Talk louder.
  310. 14:28>> Sorry, I try and talk and hold this
  311. 14:30closer.
  312. 14:33But some of the safety concerns involve
  313. 14:35the fact that this is an emerging market
  314. 14:36that's unregulated and best practices as
  315. 14:39outlined by NAERTA is to have localities
  316. 14:42create regulations under which they have
  317. 14:44oversight. International fire code says
  318. 14:47that these things don't need fire
  319. 14:48suppression uh installed if they are in
  320. 14:52remote areas. And so by maybe like the
  321. 14:55density of New York City, this might be
  322. 14:57considered a remote area. But by the
  323. 14:59density of the county that it is within
  324. 15:02a close radius to one of our more denser
  325. 15:04areas means that it's remote by whose
  326. 15:07standards? International fire code would
  327. 15:09say that the regulating authority, which
  328. 15:11would be the local authority here based
  329. 15:13on state policy, would be tasked with
  330. 15:15enforcing that and making sure that that
  331. 15:18was done correctly. The way these things
  332. 15:20are designed is to minimize liability to
  333. 15:23the developers. The developers use a
  334. 15:25multi-layered structure that shields
  335. 15:27them from the impacts if these things
  336. 15:30aren't operational as stated or if they
  337. 15:33cut corners. The beneficial owner,
  338. 15:35majority shareholder of Keysapture
  339. 15:37Energy, has already had OSHA violations
  340. 15:40in the United States, $31 million
  341. 15:42lawsuit in Atlanta for improper battery
  342. 15:44disposal. They also were one of their
  343. 15:47subsidiaries was responsible for taking
  344. 15:49out systems in South Korea that affected
  345. 15:52most major internet systems as well as
  346. 15:55data center issues. We will be
  347. 15:57vulnerable to cyber attacks with this in
  348. 15:59the area. When the internet goes out,
  349. 16:03which it does sometimes, how do these
  350. 16:05stay connected? These require remote
  351. 16:07engagement in order to be monitored and
  352. 16:10to know if there's flaws. If the
  353. 16:12internet is down, how do we know
  354. 16:13something's wrong?
  355. 16:15There are alternatives to these type of
  356. 16:17batteries which have been outlined in
  357. 16:19the first slide. Uh there are in the
  358. 16:21second slide there's ion air batteries,
  359. 16:24sodium ion batteries, there's
  360. 16:26geothermal, they have hydro cells now
  361. 16:28that they've created where they use a
  362. 16:30motor to push water up to the cell and
  363. 16:32then the water comes down kind of
  364. 16:34recreating hydro power within a cell.
  365. 16:37Those are completely non-toxic because
  366. 16:39that's water. uh but they're not looking
  367. 16:42at the different technologies because
  368. 16:43these technologies are now market cheap.
  369. 16:46The reason these are rolling out as
  370. 16:47quickly as they are and as fast as they
  371. 16:49are is that the price to produce them
  372. 16:51has come down significantly combined
  373. 16:53with carbon credits and other financial
  374. 16:55incentives puts very little financial
  375. 16:58liability on the developer either to do
  376. 17:00things correctly or expensively.
  377. 17:04So we have different sites like uh
  378. 17:06undisturbed industrial sites. We could
  379. 17:08do a intercount partnership. They do it
  380. 17:11for mental health services. The mental
  381. 17:13health association of Columbia and Green
  382. 17:14County is an intercount partnership
  383. 17:17designed to provide services to the
  384. 17:19area. If we have additional counties in
  385. 17:21the local that have space for these
  386. 17:24things to be situated more safely away
  387. 17:26from more density, why not create more
  388. 17:29inner county packs to address some of
  389. 17:31the issues that we've outlined with it
  390. 17:33being so close to everyone?
  391. 17:37Okay. And there was a statement that was
  392. 17:39given to us by McCall and he's a
  393. 17:44toxicologist and water specialtist. He's
  394. 17:46a SRE resident and environmental
  395. 17:48scientist. He's requesting consider
  396. 17:51combined consideration to avoid
  397. 17:52segmentation requesting positive
  398. 17:54termination for state environmental
  399. 17:56quality reviews and um he's posted he's
  400. 17:59given us information on super fund acts.
  401. 18:02Renewable sources of energy are not a
  402. 18:04bad idea. This isn't against renewable
  403. 18:07energy. It's just not this technology at
  404. 18:10this location. We are requesting
  405. 18:12transparency. fire department and town
  406. 18:14board meetings and privilege at the
  407. 18:16floor requesting combined consideration
  408. 18:18to avoid segmentation requesting
  409. 18:20positive determination for state
  410. 18:21environment and quality reviews. So then
  411. 18:25we also have environmental concerns. Uh
  412. 18:28there's a direct impact on the
  413. 18:29population should things go wrong. In
  414. 18:31theory, these batteries operate quite
  415. 18:33well under best practices and ideal
  416. 18:37scenarios under which real world
  417. 18:39application very rarely meets the
  418. 18:42criteria for the stated safety levels.
  419. 18:46Uh we're uh eliminating a functioning
  420. 18:48carbon sink which will restore release
  421. 18:51stored carbon increase pollution from
  422. 18:54the adjacent uh roads and throughways
  423. 18:56with the deforestation proposed. uh
  424. 18:59there is not noise buffering included in
  425. 19:01the application. Uh what the noise is
  426. 19:04for these things is subjective. When you
  427. 19:06hear a decibel reading, you need to also
  428. 19:09know from what distance. So someone can
  429. 19:11say 100 dB or someone can say 70 dB, but
  430. 19:14if they don't tell you the distance,
  431. 19:16it's a meaningless number. Uh forever
  432. 19:19impact humans, land aquafer, continuous
  433. 19:21habitats, including endangered species
  434. 19:23and migratory birds. When these things
  435. 19:26go offline, like they leave them there
  436. 19:28or they sell them to secondary companies
  437. 19:31that operate them at like 30 to 45%
  438. 19:34because the batteries are no longer safe
  439. 19:35to be charged to 100%. That's what
  440. 19:38happened in Warwick. And because these
  441. 19:40things get passed around from developer
  442. 19:41to developer, nobody is there to take
  443. 19:43accountability when something goes
  444. 19:45wrong.
  445. 19:47Um, this does not necessarily
  446. 19:49demonstrate that the climate goals
  447. 19:51stated will be met with this project.
  448. 19:52It's a 4hour charge and uh we are
  449. 19:57increasing both density and data centers
  450. 20:00within the state.
  451. 20:09>> Another big concern of my name is
  452. 20:11Eileen. I live across from Cantine on
  453. 20:13Washington Avenue. Uh big concern is
  454. 20:17noise. Massive deforestation removes
  455. 20:19natural buffers. Nighttime inversion
  456. 20:22conditions projections based on what was
  457. 20:26included. Elevated location and low
  458. 20:29frequency which travels further. 70 dB
  459. 20:32at fence line 50 at the nearest house.
  460. 20:3640 well within the village. Constant
  461. 20:38humming
  462. 20:4024/7 and its loudest at night. It's not
  463. 20:43mass by not masked
  464. 20:47by the freeway in the rush hours. Uh
  465. 20:50town of Sores has no noise uh ordinance,
  466. 20:54no plans to install beams, BMS,
  467. 20:59no acoustic modeling. Battery storage
  468. 21:03site becomes noisier with age. More heat
  469. 21:07and forcing full cooling fans and HV
  470. 21:10back systems to work harder. mechanical
  471. 21:16mechanical cooling components sometimes
  472. 21:19reach 92 decibb near the equipment.
  473. 21:23Types of noise you have operational
  474. 21:25that's from uh inverters and cooling
  475. 21:27systems and it emits a high pitched
  476. 21:31electrical buzz. Mechanical noise,
  477. 21:33that's your compressor, pumps, fans.
  478. 21:37They lead to mechanical vibration and
  479. 21:39noise that can reach uncomfortable
  480. 21:41decibb for nearby residents. The most
  481. 21:43significant noise these run to prevent
  482. 21:46battery overheating. They produce a
  483. 21:49constant frequent work or home.
  484. 21:59>> Requesting transparency. Are sound
  485. 22:01mitigation measures and commitments
  486. 22:03being discussed? Requesting combined
  487. 22:07consideration to avoid segmentation.
  488. 22:10Requesting positive determination for
  489. 22:12state environmental quality review. SQL.
  490. 22:19We're concerned about our volunteer
  491. 22:21firemen.
  492. 22:24There's incorrect information being
  493. 22:26disseminated. This will simply take more
  494. 22:29than four hours of watching
  495. 22:32um of watching in case training for the
  496. 22:36Cedar Grove Fire Department is not
  497. 22:38enough. All mutual aid fire departments
  498. 22:41must be trained and pro provided with
  499. 22:43equipment.
  500. 22:44>> Uh
  501. 22:45>> microphone
  502. 22:48>> key capture
  503. 22:50>> please. I'm sorry to interrupt.
  504. 22:52>> Yeah, this is the last time we this is
  505. 22:55the last one. Thanks.
  506. 22:57>> Okay. Decapture is not the first
  507. 22:59responders. That responsibility falls on
  508. 23:01our local fire department and emergency
  509. 23:04equipment.
  510. 23:05Um lithium ion batteries uh fire other
  511. 23:08fire departments don't support battery
  512. 23:11facilities in their communities. Lithium
  513. 23:13iron battery behavior. Thermal runaway
  514. 23:17toxic gas release.
  515. 23:20Responder safety most important. Best
  516. 23:23fires are not comparable to conventional
  517. 23:26structure fires
  518. 23:29and requesting transparency. Fire
  519. 23:31department at town board meeting with
  520. 23:34privilege of the floor requesting
  521. 23:36combined consideration to avoid
  522. 23:38segmentation requesting positive
  523. 23:41determination for state environmental
  524. 23:43quality review section.
  525. 23:48>> Thank you.
  526. 23:49>> Okay, great. Thank you. Um, anyone have
  527. 23:53a question?
  528. 23:55>> You better have a comment or a question,
  529. 23:57please share.
  530. 23:59>> Um, just so you know, anybody who has
  531. 24:01questions, we're going to be doing
  532. 24:03another community meeting at the
  533. 24:06library. Uh, if anybody wants to bring,
  534. 24:08you know, bring thoughtful questions,
  535. 24:10then you know, contact to us and we
  536. 24:13would love to sit down and talk to
  537. 24:15people.
  538. 24:16>> I can't hear.
  539. 24:17>> All right. Thank you. We're going to
  540. 24:19move on. public comment. You can turn
  541. 24:22the lights back on. Christie, Mike,
  542. 24:27>> thank
  543. 24:31Eric Delmare.
  544. 24:34Chris, can you get these two?
  545. 24:39>> Hi, my name is Eric Delmare. I live on
  546. 24:41Lafayette Street. There's huge
  547. 24:44opposition to best installations across
  548. 24:46the state. Let's talk about that for
  549. 24:48sovereignty.
  550. 24:50You guys can't hear me.
  551. 24:53>> Restart the clock, please. Is this power
  552. 24:55switch?
  553. 24:56>> I think the volume needs
  554. 24:58>> Hello. Hello. Hello. Hello. Testing.
  555. 25:00Testing.
  556. 25:02You have to be very close at the end of
  557. 25:18>> St.
  558. 25:25>> There we go.
  559. 25:29>> Restart the clock, please.
  560. 25:30>> Yes. Let's talk.
  561. 25:32>> Yeah. Yeah. My name is Eric Delmar. I
  562. 25:34live on Lafayette Street. There's huge
  563. 25:36opposition to best installations across
  564. 25:38the state.
  565. 25:39>> Let's talk about that. Especially for
  566. 25:42soies. A best installation is more than
  567. 25:44just batteries. Each giant battery
  568. 25:46container has systems to keep the
  569. 25:48batteries stable. If all those systems
  570. 25:50work correctly, there's less chance of a
  571. 25:53battery fire. Fires are uncommon, but
  572. 25:55they're also uncommonly horrible.
  573. 25:59An uncontrollable fire could erupt,
  574. 26:01belching toxic gases in whatever
  575. 26:03direction the wind blows. We're advised
  576. 26:06to just let it burn out, but that could
  577. 26:08take weeks. Our fire department would
  578. 26:10have to stand by 24/7 making sure other
  579. 26:13batteries get cooled down so they don't
  580. 26:16get pushed into place. Serveries will
  581. 26:19not benefit from this proposed battery
  582. 26:21farm. Owners of data centers are the
  583. 26:23target customers.
  584. 26:26data centers are able to pay top dollar
  585. 26:28to keep their systems running. So that
  586. 26:30best flyer handout that we got at the uh
  587. 26:33that promotional uh brainwashing we had
  588. 26:35recently that was best flyer handouts
  589. 26:38that stated best units keep the lights
  590. 26:40on during a storm while sounding cozy
  591. 26:43and nice is false. Soies won't benefit.
  592. 26:46We're not the customer and their claim
  593. 26:49of millions of dollars in tax revenue.
  594. 26:52Nope. They went around and now they're
  595. 26:53applying to uh not pay any property tax
  596. 26:56and they're seeking the pilot and move
  597. 26:58payment and move taxes. They want us to
  598. 27:00accept token payments towards social
  599. 27:02programs. So again, deceit and
  600. 27:05sovereignities would get no offset to
  601. 27:06our ballooning property taxes.
  602. 27:09The master plan is to install 136
  603. 27:12battery units, each the size of a 40ft
  604. 27:14shipping container, up on the hill. So
  605. 27:17that's 13 acres of giant electric boxes
  606. 27:20all alive with electric hump from
  607. 27:23charging or discharging along with a
  608. 27:25sound of noisy relays and compressors
  609. 27:27and fans to keep the battery stable. And
  610. 27:30remember that noise that we have to
  611. 27:33tolerate 24/7 is for the benefit of some
  612. 27:37far away data center
  613. 27:40about that hill that this is going to go
  614. 27:42on. It's the tallest spot in It's the
  615. 27:45tallest spot in the village. Six stories
  616. 27:48higher than the average village
  617. 27:49elevation. Best plants are noisiest at
  618. 27:53night and they get noisier every year,
  619. 27:55getting louder as the systems age and
  620. 27:57lose efficiency. You like opening your
  621. 28:00window on a summer evening and only
  622. 28:02hearing crickets? That may become a
  623. 28:04sweet memory. Up on the hill at that
  624. 28:06elevation, the noise will be everywhere.
  625. 28:10Even if there was a 5% chance of
  626. 28:12problems, why take the chance? There's
  627. 28:15no benefit here, especially for a toxic,
  628. 28:18complex, volatile asset owned by a third
  629. 28:21party. So I ask, why are we even
  630. 28:24entertaining this proposal?
  631. 28:28[applause]
  632. 28:29Board members, board members, you know
  633. 28:32that you're here to serve the public
  634. 28:34good. These best systems are intrusive
  635. 28:36and quite possibly dangerous. We have
  636. 28:39nothing to gain and so much to lose.
  637. 28:41Thank you, [applause]
  638. 28:49>> Ted Moroni.
  639. 28:59>> Hey everyone, my name is Ted. I live in
  640. 29:00the village on Market Street. I work for
  641. 29:03a renewable energy company that operates
  642. 29:04about 100 solar sites across New England
  643. 29:06and New York. We also have about 10
  644. 29:08battery sites in our portfolio. As a
  645. 29:10renewable energy worker and village
  646. 29:12resident, I support efforts to add
  647. 29:14battery storage to the grid to reduce
  648. 29:16pollution, modernize American energy. I
  649. 29:19attended the recent Stop Socrates
  650. 29:21battery storage meeting at the library
  651. 29:22on March 25th and heard many of my
  652. 29:24neighbors concerns that have been voiced
  653. 29:26here again tonight. I believe some of
  654. 29:27these concerns are very valid and should
  655. 29:29be addressed, but others are unfounded.
  656. 29:31I hope my input tonight can help.
  657. 29:33Utility scale batteries provide
  658. 29:35dispatchable power that can be
  659. 29:36discharged [clears throat] when needed
  660. 29:37to stabilize the grid in times of high
  661. 29:39demand as opposed to intermittent power
  662. 29:41from resources such as solar and wind or
  663. 29:43base load power such as nuclear and
  664. 29:45hydro which are always on. The majority
  665. 29:47of dispatchable energy on the grid
  666. 29:49currently comes from oil and natural gas
  667. 29:52fired peaker plants which ramp up
  668. 29:54production as needed. Per the nonprofit
  669. 29:56energy policy group PSSE's 2024
  670. 29:58analysis, 3/4 of New York State's Peaker
  671. 30:01plants are over 30 years old and their
  672. 30:04operation produces significant
  673. 30:05pollution. Batteries produce no
  674. 30:07pollution during operation. Furthermore,
  675. 30:10batteries can charge during times of
  676. 30:11high generation and low demand, allowing
  677. 30:14us to avoid energy waste. For example,
  678. 30:16on a mild spring day, most buildings
  679. 30:18need neither heating nor cooling, which
  680. 30:19is a major source of energy usage, so
  681. 30:21there'd be less demand on the grid that
  682. 30:23day. However, base load energy
  683. 30:25generators such as nuclear and hydro
  684. 30:26running 247 constantly produce energy
  685. 30:29even when there isn't enough demand on
  686. 30:30the grid to make use of that energy.
  687. 30:32Batteries solve this problem by
  688. 30:34capturing excess energy to use later
  689. 30:36when needed. This is a traditional
  690. 30:38market economy supply and demand. They
  691. 30:41buy when it's cheap, they sell when it's
  692. 30:43high. But this is going to happen
  693. 30:45whether it's battery or it's natural gas
  694. 30:47fired plants. This is the market economy
  695. 30:49that that we're operating under here. As
  696. 30:51for this particular battery system
  697. 30:53proposed by Key Capture Energy, I've
  698. 30:55been unable to access the proposal in
  699. 30:56full, so my analysis is based on
  700. 30:58secondary sources and what I've heard
  701. 30:59from my neighbors. It would be great for
  702. 31:01the town to upload a copy of the full
  703. 31:03proposal to their website for public
  704. 31:04review, which seems like transparency is
  705. 31:06a key thing here. For now, from what I
  706. 31:08can tell, there are three deficiencies
  707. 31:09in the proposal. Does not specify an
  708. 31:11emergency response plan. It sidesteps a
  709. 31:13full secret type one review. And the
  710. 31:15direct compensation to our community is
  711. 31:17unclear. My company has an emergency
  712. 31:19response plan we share with the local
  713. 31:20fire department in each of our battery
  714. 31:22projects. The plan lists contact info
  715. 31:24everyone, explains what to do in certain
  716. 31:26situations and whom to call in an event
  717. 31:27such as an fire. To be clear, we have
  718. 31:30never had a fire in any of our battery
  719. 31:31systems. Nonetheless, it is imperative
  720. 31:33that an emergency response plan in
  721. 31:35place. It is negligent to proceed with
  722. 31:37key captures proposal without it. As for
  723. 31:40the environmental impacts, as I said, a
  724. 31:41full secret type one review should be
  725. 31:43conducted and it would be negligent to
  726. 31:45proceed without it. And in additionally,
  727. 31:47the noise the noise concerns in the
  728. 31:48storm water model reviews that should be
  729. 31:50looped in there as well because the
  730. 31:51noise like you said it matters very much
  731. 31:53on proximity and having a decibel
  732. 31:55reading. It must be done at certain
  733. 31:57times of day and at certain distances
  734. 31:59and there are companies that this is
  735. 32:00their whole thing. All they do is noise
  736. 32:01analyses. It's it's a very uh you know
  737. 32:03industry standard practice. Um, I've
  738. 32:06heard different reports about the
  739. 32:07payments key caps will make, whether
  740. 32:08it's direct contribution, property tax
  741. 32:10payments, pilot setups, donations to
  742. 32:13area nonprofits, and I think it's
  743. 32:15negligent for us to proceed if we don't
  744. 32:17completely understand the explicit
  745. 32:19amount they would be paying us and any
  746. 32:20financial penalties if those, you know,
  747. 32:22uh, payments are not fulfilled.
  748. 32:24I believe we should add batteries to the
  749. 32:26grid for the long-term health and
  750. 32:27well-being of our planet and that
  751. 32:29includes our local grid here in so once
  752. 32:31Key Capture has submitted a
  753. 32:32comprehensive emergency response plan,
  754. 32:34committed to a full secret review, and
  755. 32:36contractually confirmed its financial
  756. 32:37contributions to our community, this
  757. 32:38project will have my full support. For
  758. 32:40now, there's still work to be done.
  759. 32:41Thank you for your time.
  760. 32:42>> Thank you. [applause]
  761. 32:54Members of the board, Janelle and I
  762. 32:56signed up to read into the minutes some
  763. 32:59of the Paul Roman's uh statements on
  764. 33:02water and western farm and we would both
  765. 33:05like to wait uh until the end. Can we
  766. 33:07maybe be moved down on the schedule,
  767. 33:11please?
  768. 33:12>> I always go in the order that people
  769. 33:13sign up.
  770. 33:14>> Well, you can do it now.
  771. 33:16>> Okay, I will. I'm sorry to be
  772. 33:17interrupting. Um
  773. 33:20sorry to be interrupted.
  774. 33:21>> It's okay.
  775. 33:22>> Um I will say that um on with respect to
  776. 33:26the best project that there
  777. 33:29two sides seem to be talking past each
  778. 33:31other not and I think that the
  779. 33:33objections raised by um the opponents
  780. 33:36really do need to be addressed but
  781. 33:39that's what the last speaker said also.
  782. 33:42>> Okay. So on behalf of beautiful soies I
  783. 33:46wish to reiterate two points made
  784. 33:47previously by hydraologist Paul Ribbon
  785. 33:50during his recent privilege of the floor
  786. 33:52presentation as well as in public
  787. 33:54comment periods. The first point
  788. 33:56concerning the threat of inevitable
  789. 33:58periods of drought and the devastating
  790. 34:01effect they would have depending on
  791. 34:02severity on the bake of an aquifer is
  792. 34:05thus far undisputed. Mr. Ruben provided
  793. 34:08copious documentation that droughts have
  794. 34:11historically occurred and will occur
  795. 34:12again. This information unavailable at
  796. 34:15the time of the secret public comment
  797. 34:17period
  798. 34:18>> has no rain
  799. 34:19>> last summer must give the town board
  800. 34:21serious pause in its deliberations of
  801. 34:23how much water should be made should be
  802. 34:26made available for any development on
  803. 34:28Winston farm. The second point that the
  804. 34:31document of reasonable use of about 26
  805. 34:33gallons per minute of water from the
  806. 34:35aquifer to Winston Farm use is
  807. 34:37calculated based on the number of its
  808. 34:40843 acres to the total number of acres
  809. 34:43the aquifer can supply water to and the
  810. 34:46amount of water that can be pumped from
  811. 34:47the aquifer. This must also be taken
  812. 34:50into consideration when access to water
  813. 34:52is clarified in a PDD for WY farm. No
  814. 34:56other figure based on hydraologic or
  815. 34:58legal principles has been proposed to
  816. 35:00date. Neither of these points can be
  817. 35:02ignored without compromising the
  818. 35:05obligation to due diligence on the part
  819. 35:07of the town board. And I will be sending
  820. 35:10this um to Miss Stanley for inclusion in
  821. 35:14the minutes um of this meeting. Thank
  822. 35:16you.
  823. 35:20[applause]
  824. 35:24Now it's your move.
  825. 35:26>> Good evening.
  826. 35:28>> Um, yes. I'm also uh going to be
  827. 35:31speaking about a few points about
  828. 35:33Winston Farm and I apologize to uh the
  829. 35:37best
  830. 35:39microphone.
  831. 35:40>> Okay. Can can you I think so. According
  832. 35:44to hydraologist Paul Rubin and other
  833. 35:46members of our community, the owners of
  834. 35:48Winston Farm have not provided any
  835. 35:50detailed breakdown of actual plan
  836. 35:53development components or the quantity
  837. 35:55of groundwater required for each use.
  838. 35:58This singular crucial aspect should give
  839. 36:01our town pause because how can the town
  840. 36:04possibly make any reasonable assessment
  841. 36:07given that the owners have made not one
  842. 36:09single plan? The owners are instead
  843. 36:12looking to get blanket approval for many
  844. 36:15unspecified development components
  845. 36:17through a zoning change. These quote
  846. 36:20uses are compiled in appendix P of the
  847. 36:23DEGIS
  848. 36:25containing a highly objectionable
  849. 36:27laundry list of sunundry fancical
  850. 36:30possible uses. The reasonable use
  851. 36:33doctrine of New York clearly states that
  852. 36:36groundwater does not belong to owners of
  853. 36:39real property but is a natural resource
  854. 36:41entrusted to the state by and for its
  855. 36:45citizens.
  856. 36:46The north south trending Beaverkill
  857. 36:49Bakoben Aquafer covers a little over
  858. 36:527,000 acres and is entirely designated
  859. 36:55as an aquifer protection overlay
  860. 36:57district and as it is establishes the
  861. 37:00town's water rights protects ecosystem
  862. 37:03health protects the town against drought
  863. 37:06and can help to lead the town's careful
  864. 37:08decisions for future growth. The 840
  865. 37:12acres of Winston farm is in the middle
  866. 37:14of the elderly district.
  867. 37:16The Winston farm owners have not
  868. 37:18proposed a master plan for their plan
  869. 37:20development district and do not support
  870. 37:22or comply with the town sovereignty's
  871. 37:25aquifer protection overlay district. So
  872. 37:28with this in mind, are we to simply
  873. 37:30guess what they might do?
  874. 37:32>> It stands to reason alone that owners
  875. 37:35must be forced to produce exacting
  876. 37:37project details along with scientific
  877. 37:40justification for individual project
  878. 37:42component water demands. The town of
  879. 37:45Socrates is obligated to uphold the
  880. 37:47reasonable use doctrine for the aquifers
  881. 37:50overlay protection. It is unethical and
  882. 37:52illegal to permanently dedicate the bulk
  883. 37:55of the available aquifer groundwater
  884. 37:57supply to a single owner or in this case
  885. 38:00three owners to support their
  886. 38:01development schemes and personal profit.
  887. 38:04Groundwater rights are a serious issue
  888. 38:06for Winston. How our town handles
  889. 38:09potential negative impacts on the
  890. 38:12aquafer is key. our ecosystem
  891. 38:14degradation to from ecosystem
  892. 38:18degradation to sustainability to drought
  893. 38:20emergency to contamination risks all
  894. 38:24must be of the highest priority. Thank
  895. 38:26you.
  896. 38:28[applause]
  897. 38:39>> Thank you. Can you hear me?
  898. 38:41>> Yes.
  899. 38:42I've been asked to read a letter from an
  900. 38:44environmentalist who is active in
  901. 38:46Warwick, New York.
  902. 38:48>> Dear members of the town board, my name
  903. 38:50is Camila Melik and I am the chair of
  904. 38:53Protect Orange County. I am writing to
  905. 38:56strongly urge the town of Socrates to
  906. 38:59reject the proposed battery energy
  907. 39:01storage system. Battery storage is
  908. 39:04represented as a green and clean energy
  909. 39:06alternative to fossil fuels. Orange
  910. 39:09County has been under siege by gas
  911. 39:12infrastructure to power the New York
  912. 39:13City grid. So, no community has a
  913. 39:16greater stake in transitioning to green
  914. 39:18energies energy than ours. However, we
  915. 39:21have learned that battery storage is not
  916. 39:24clean or green, but rather merely
  917. 39:26storing more fossil fuel power while
  918. 39:29inherently toxic and volatile and
  919. 39:31industrializing rural communities. It is
  920. 39:35not a climate solution, but climate
  921. 39:37deception. We have already seen
  922. 39:40firsthand what these facilities can do.
  923. 39:42In the town of Warwick, our community
  924. 39:44witnessed a battery fire burned for for
  925. 39:48days. It required prolonged emergency
  926. 39:51response, raised serious concern about
  927. 39:53air quality, and demonstrated just how
  928. 39:56difficult these fires are to contain and
  929. 39:59fully extinguish.
  930. 40:01These are not isolated or hypothetical
  931. 40:04risks. They are real documented events
  932. 40:07happening in communities like ours. I
  933. 40:10was present near the Warwick site two
  934. 40:11weeks after the fire and after being
  935. 40:14there for less than an hour, I
  936. 40:16experienced a metallic taste in my
  937. 40:18mouth. I had to immediately go home and
  938. 40:20rinse my mouth. There were reports that
  939. 40:23workers at the site also became ill.
  940. 40:26When battery systems burn, they can
  941. 40:28release highly toxic substances,
  942. 40:30including hydrogen fluoride, carbon
  943. 40:33monoxide, and fine particulate matter.
  944. 40:36These emissions pose immediate and
  945. 40:38long-term risks to residents, first
  946. 40:40responders, and the environment. Yet,
  947. 40:43despite these known hazards, New York
  948. 40:45State does not currently have adequate
  949. 40:47enforcable regulations to place in to
  950. 40:50fully protect communities or the
  951. 40:52environment from these emissions or
  952. 40:54their impact.
  953. 40:56These systems are inherently volatile.
  954. 40:58Even so-called safer battery chemistries
  955. 41:01can experience thermal runaway for long
  956. 41:04burning and reignition. At the same
  957. 41:07time, local fire departments are often
  958. 41:09not equipped with the specialized
  959. 41:10training, resources, or protective
  960. 41:13equipment needed to safely respond to
  961. 41:15these incidents. This proposal would
  962. 41:18effectively industrialize a rural
  963. 41:20community and impose disproportionate
  964. 41:22risk on loyal local residents.
  965. 41:26The burden of potential fire, toxic
  966. 41:28exposure, and environmental
  967. 41:30contamination falls squarely on the host
  968. 41:32community without meaningful consent and
  969. 41:35without sufficient safeguards. Soy
  970. 41:38should not be asked to accept these
  971. 41:40risks. Thank you.
  972. 41:43[applause]
  973. 41:51Take that.
  974. 41:59Good evening. I'm Pat Sheen. Uh,
  975. 42:02>> first I want to thank Councilman Io. He
  976. 42:05spoke with my son tonight. My son is
  977. 42:07doing his requirement for first class on
  978. 42:09citizenship. So, what a perfect way to
  979. 42:13address citizenship than be here, talk
  980. 42:15to our elected officials and and be here
  981. 42:18for a presentation like this. So, this
  982. 42:20is very great. I thank you and I thank
  983. 42:23the board and uh presentations
  984. 42:24excellent. Uh so I'm Pat Sheen. I'm
  985. 42:27running for New York State Senate. I
  986. 42:28live just south of Soures in Ruby. Uh
  987. 42:32>> you move.
  988. 42:33>> I've been on the record about this since
  989. 42:35the jump. Uh we bear as local residents
  990. 42:39all the costs and really none of the
  991. 42:40benefits. Uh the costs are the property
  992. 42:42value deflation, the fire risks, the
  993. 42:45toxic fumes. Uh the benefits go to data
  994. 42:48centers, AI, New York City. Uh
  995. 42:52New York after the CLCPA
  996. 42:54has really
  997. 42:57funded this through taxpayer dollars. Uh
  998. 43:00they're looking to take away local
  999. 43:02control. We know that uh Naerta is
  1000. 43:05looking to take away your control. The
  1001. 43:08the room here speaks to people's
  1002. 43:09interest in this. And yeah, what do you
  1003. 43:13know? Our elected leaders in Albany
  1004. 43:15don't want our local people to have a
  1005. 43:19say. They want a sighting department in
  1006. 43:21Naerta, an anonymous
  1007. 43:25door up in the Capitol to thumbs up or
  1008. 43:28thumbs down these these projects. This
  1009. 43:31technology, these batteries are already
  1010. 43:34old. Okay, I work for the state.
  1011. 43:36We got new computers. They were like
  1012. 43:38operating in DOSs. This is this is stuff
  1013. 43:41that really does impact people. Barry
  1014. 43:44technology will get there. We're not
  1015. 43:46there yet. Uh The former speaker said,
  1016. 43:50"These are uncommonly horrible." And I
  1017. 43:52wrote that down. And they are, you know,
  1018. 43:54and our elected officials, Sarah
  1019. 43:56Hanesto, Michelle Hinchi, Kathy Hovel,
  1020. 43:59Jen Mezer, who signed on the CL CPA,
  1021. 44:02basically say trust the science. Well, I
  1022. 44:04haven't trusted the science since Mr.
  1023. 44:06Fouchy stood up and said that the first
  1024. 44:08time.
  1025. 44:09>> BATTERIES,
  1026. 44:11[applause]
  1027. 44:12batteries are pollution. They are
  1028. 44:14unrecyclable.
  1029. 44:16And two things I want to point out. If
  1030. 44:19if you recall, Millins wanted to site a
  1031. 44:22recycling plant on 32 just south of
  1032. 44:24Olster County Resource Recovery. The
  1033. 44:27people across the river made all the
  1034. 44:29decisions about that project in Olster
  1035. 44:32County because they had the money and it
  1036. 44:34was going to impact their viewshed.
  1037. 44:36Well, they can't see it from Woodstock.
  1038. 44:38They can't see it from Rybeck. So, we're
  1039. 44:41stuck with it just like the people in
  1040. 44:42the town of Olter. And that is
  1041. 44:46disgraceful.
  1042. 44:48>> My final point on this is these
  1043. 44:52projects, Terra Jan and Key Capture, but
  1044. 44:55the New York State throughway, in this
  1045. 44:56case, New York State throughway and CSX
  1046. 44:58train line.
  1047. 45:00The New York State throughway is an
  1048. 45:02Eisenhower designated national defense
  1049. 45:04highway. It cannot be shut down. So find
  1050. 45:08the stop.
  1051. 45:09>> That's all I have to say. Okay.
  1052. 45:10>> Thank you so much.
  1053. 45:12[applause]
  1054. 45:19Mart.
  1055. 45:21>> Oh, no. I'm I'm not going to speak.
  1056. 45:23>> Okay, fair enough. [clears throat] Thank
  1057. 45:25you for coming,
  1058. 45:27>> Lisa Flanigan.
  1059. 45:36>> Hi, my name is Lisa Flanigan. I'm a
  1060. 45:39resident on John Schultz Road.
  1061. 45:40>> Go. According, this is a quote,
  1062. 45:43according to the US National Renewable
  1063. 45:45Energy Laboratory, the optimal
  1064. 45:47temperature range for lithium ion for
  1065. 45:49batteries like these is between 59° F
  1066. 45:52and 95° F. Rearch shows that an ambient
  1067. 45:56temperature of about 68° is ideal. If a
  1068. 45:59battery operates at 86° F, its lifetime
  1069. 46:02is reduced by 20%. At 104°, the losses
  1070. 46:07in lifetime approach 40%.
  1071. 46:10This is all to say that we know and has
  1072. 46:12been emphasized that thermal management
  1073. 46:15is critical to these. Today's high was
  1074. 46:1886° and it is mid angle. We all know
  1075. 46:22over the past few years that heat waves
  1076. 46:24and deep freezes have been increasingly
  1077. 46:27a part of our lives and we all see it
  1078. 46:29reflected in our energy bills which as
  1079. 46:31we know this will do nothing for.
  1080. 46:36But also, we've seen abrupt swings in
  1081. 46:38temperature in an 24-hour period. At
  1082. 46:42best, a best battery system has a
  1083. 46:44lifespan of
  1084. 46:46>> maybe 12 years, and that goes down by
  1085. 46:4920% and then by 40%. Which means that we
  1086. 46:52have very large disposable batteries,
  1087. 46:55100 acres of which we are planning to
  1088. 46:56build in the backyards of the village of
  1089. 46:59Socrates.
  1090. 47:00They are proposing to build these with
  1091. 47:02actual warehouses. They could they could
  1092. 47:05propose entire buildings with HVAC which
  1093. 47:09with proper fire suppression systems,
  1094. 47:11but they won't because no one's making
  1095. 47:13them do it. There are no regulations to
  1096. 47:15respect. [applause] These developers are
  1097. 47:18very aggressively trying to get these
  1098. 47:20built before the state starts regulating
  1099. 47:22it. And
  1100. 47:24>> yeah, Naerta can be both a pain and a
  1101. 47:27gain and requires so much transparency.
  1102. 47:30And I really want to defend them, but
  1103. 47:31he's not entirely wrong.
  1104. 47:34And the containers they are proposing to
  1105. 47:36put these in are simply steel shipping
  1106. 47:39containers painted a very nice white.
  1107. 47:41Maybe green. It'll blend in more. I
  1108. 47:44don't know. But we've all seen footage
  1109. 47:47of how just a single bicycle battery can
  1110. 47:51take down an apartment building,
  1111. 47:52>> can take down a house.
  1112. 47:55>> The risk that everyone is saying is fine
  1113. 47:58is ridiculous.
  1114. 47:59Additionally, entertaining the best
  1115. 48:01project and the Winston Farms project
  1116. 48:03simultaneously
  1117. 48:05is an insane
  1118. 48:07>> I don't understand how those coexist in
  1119. 48:09terms of looking at water, looking at
  1120. 48:10building, looking at zoning, which
  1121. 48:12apparently is a real flexible term
  1122. 48:15around here. Whether someone is from
  1123. 48:17here or not, there is a pattern of
  1124. 48:20disregard and a lack of transparency
  1125. 48:23that I think eventually someone is going
  1126. 48:25to be found liable for. And I think
  1127. 48:27people are going to suffer for it so
  1128. 48:32[applause]
  1129. 48:36you
  1130. 48:46Steven Schaefer 8 Mind your stream. I'm
  1131. 48:49speaking as a private citizen though I
  1132. 48:51am a member of the conservation advisory
  1133. 48:53commission.
  1134. 48:55Rising demands for electricity make it
  1135. 48:57ever harder to meet the needs of peak
  1136. 49:01hours. For a scarce commodity, utilities
  1137. 49:04have to pay sky-high spot prices to
  1138. 49:07customers. The uptrending price of
  1139. 49:10natural gas also raises bills for
  1140. 49:12electricity even in months that don't
  1141. 49:15see yearly maximal loads.
  1142. 49:18A sensible approach to threaten
  1143. 49:19brownouts and the reality of higher
  1144. 49:21electric bills is to build supply by
  1145. 49:24adding generating capacity of wind and
  1146. 49:27utility scale solar. These are much
  1147. 49:30cheaper to build than base loader plants
  1148. 49:33where the fuel for their operations is
  1149. 49:35literally free. Ideal solution? No, but
  1150. 49:39a good one. Two problems. Wind and solar
  1151. 49:43are variable energy resources. They
  1152. 49:46can't be counted on to meet an upcoming
  1153. 49:48rise in demand. Neither can be easily
  1154. 49:51dialed to dispatch more electricity over
  1155. 49:54the next hour or to ramp down on a day
  1156. 49:57with lots of sun or wind.
  1157. 49:59>> Thus, neither is useful in itself for
  1158. 50:02keeping the second to second balance of
  1159. 50:04supply and demand that the grid requires
  1160. 50:07for smooth operation.
  1161. 50:10If we want future electricity without
  1162. 50:12price spikes, the spectre of brown outs
  1163. 50:14or worse and steadily rising costs of
  1164. 50:17thermal generation, utility scale
  1165. 50:20battery energy storage systems help
  1166. 50:22solve both the drawbacks of wind and
  1167. 50:24solar mentioned above. Bets can store
  1168. 50:28electricity generated by the total
  1169. 50:31capability of base load plants plus
  1170. 50:33variable energy resources to supply the
  1171. 50:36grid for a certain time span exceeds the
  1172. 50:39end user demand over that interval.
  1173. 50:42Best shift energy availability from one
  1174. 50:45part of the day to another for example
  1175. 50:48from midday to the evening ramp up in
  1176. 50:50load. BS can thus on a daily basis tamp
  1177. 50:54down dural rises in hourly net load. A
  1178. 50:58set of fully charged BZ facilities can
  1179. 51:01also take the place of air polluting
  1180. 51:03peaker plants that run just a few days
  1181. 51:05per year. A full B can discharge
  1182. 51:09electricity instantly to stabilize the
  1183. 51:11grid in case of a sudden increase in
  1184. 51:14demand or dip in supply. If low, it can
  1185. 51:18instantly start charging to buffer a
  1186. 51:20surge in kilowatt hours.
  1187. 51:23>> Without best, it will be impossible for
  1188. 51:25New York State to realize the advantages
  1189. 51:28of a grid in which wind and utility
  1190. 51:30scale solar have a major role. Thank
  1191. 51:34you.
  1192. 51:36[applause]
  1193. 51:53Hi, my name is Janet Greenberg and I'm a
  1194. 51:56property owner residing within the
  1195. 51:58[snorts] designated best evacuation and
  1196. 52:00shelter in place radius
  1197. 52:05>> matter.
  1198. 52:07>> [laughter]
  1199. 52:08>> Um, so the following is information that
  1200. 52:11I've not been provided or have not been
  1201. 52:13given easy access to in order to make an
  1202. 52:16informed decision on whether or not to
  1203. 52:18support this best initiative.
  1204. 52:21Whether living within a BES evacuation
  1205. 52:23zone is or will be a required disclosure
  1206. 52:26on real estate transactions for both
  1207. 52:29property sales and rental agreements.
  1208. 52:32and who bears the responsibility for
  1209. 52:34ensuring that disclosure is made to
  1210. 52:36affected residents and prospective
  1211. 52:38buyers or tenants.
  1212. 52:41Whether our local volunteer fire
  1213. 52:43department has been fully briefed on the
  1214. 52:45updated risk and expanded
  1215. 52:47responsibilities that would come with
  1216. 52:49operating in proximity to a vest
  1217. 52:51facility. Excuse me. and whether they
  1218. 52:54have formally agreed to accept those
  1219. 52:56responsibilities.
  1220. 52:58Whether there's any data on firefighter
  1221. 53:00attrition, volunteer or otherwise, in
  1222. 53:03communities that have established best
  1223. 53:05evacuation areas and what the projected
  1224. 53:08impact would be on our already strained
  1225. 53:10volunteer department.
  1226. 53:13any independent analysis or commissioned
  1227. 53:15reports on the trajectory of residential
  1228. 53:18property values in best evacuation areas
  1229. 53:21in comparable communities.
  1230. 53:23Any reports or analysis on the effect of
  1231. 53:26best proximity on commercial
  1232. 53:28storefronts, retail vacancy rates, and
  1233. 53:31local business activity in best
  1234. 53:32evacuation areas.
  1235. 53:35any reports or analysis on the domino
  1236. 53:37effect on town centers and village
  1237. 53:39economies within or adjacent to a best
  1238. 53:42evacuation radius including impacts on
  1239. 53:45local businesses, tourism, community
  1240. 53:48investment and quality of life. Any
  1241. 53:51analysis on the potential decrease in
  1242. 53:53property tax and school tax revenue
  1243. 53:55driven by rapid below market home sales
  1244. 53:58in or adjacent to best evacuation radius
  1245. 54:01and what the projected impact would be
  1246. 54:04on school district funding and municipal
  1247. 54:06services.
  1248. 54:09These points have been previously pre
  1249. 54:12have been raised previously and remain
  1250. 54:13unresolved. No decommissioning plan or
  1251. 54:16financial bond from the developer has
  1252. 54:17been made public. whether affected
  1253. 54:19property owners in the evacuation radius
  1254. 54:22received formal notice in a timely
  1255. 54:24fashion prior to these pending approvals
  1256. 54:27and no documentation of alternative
  1257. 54:29sites considered and why residential
  1258. 54:31proximity was chosen. Um if this
  1259. 54:34information uh should be legally
  1260. 54:36available and made readily available to
  1261. 54:38all citizens that this directly impacts.
  1262. 54:41Thank you so much for your time.
  1263. 54:44[applause]
  1264. 54:48Sam Derrick.
  1265. 55:02>> Hi Samantha Dedric, Kings Highway in
  1266. 55:06Soures. I'm speaking here as a resident
  1267. 55:09of soverees who uses electricity.
  1268. 55:13I think that everyone in this room
  1269. 55:15expects to have it. They expect to go
  1270. 55:17home, turn on the lights, do their wash,
  1271. 55:19take a hot shower. And yes, we have a
  1272. 55:22problem. And yes, we're using more
  1273. 55:24electricity.
  1274. 55:26I think New York is using more power on
  1275. 55:28a daily basis. Some of it goes to data
  1276. 55:31centers. Some of it grows to grow
  1277. 55:33population. Some of it just grows to
  1278. 55:35having more and more devices. How many
  1279. 55:37is enough? None. could never say.
  1280. 55:41[snorts]
  1281. 55:43When I first heard of Bess, I was
  1282. 55:46skeptical,
  1283. 55:47but I've studied many, many aspects of
  1284. 55:50the project, and it's my belief that we
  1285. 55:53need batteries to store the solar, wind,
  1286. 55:56and the water power that we're making in
  1287. 55:58the state of New York.
  1288. 56:01Nobody can say
  1289. 56:03energy out of these batteries is going
  1290. 56:05to a data center. The energy in New York
  1291. 56:08State is one pool. We all use it. Nobody
  1292. 56:12knows where it's going, but anybody who
  1293. 56:15turns on their electricity is using the
  1294. 56:18grid power.
  1295. 56:21ISO discussed the central east
  1296. 56:24constraint which slows down power south
  1297. 56:26of Skinity, which means us in the Hudson
  1298. 56:29Valley and beyond in the south.
  1299. 56:33When we have severe weather
  1300. 56:37and needs for doubling our power and it
  1301. 56:41can't come down, that leaves us out.
  1302. 56:44That leaves us with brownouts.
  1303. 56:49We have to store the sustainable energy
  1304. 56:52that we have to avoid fossil fuel
  1305. 56:54generators from being brought online
  1306. 56:56during times of high use.
  1307. 57:01We all use electricity to charge the
  1308. 57:04batteries that we use in our devices.
  1309. 57:06Batteries are batteries. They're not big
  1310. 57:09monster horrible things. If they were,
  1311. 57:11we wouldn't have cars with them. We
  1312. 57:13wouldn't have phones that we sleep with,
  1313. 57:16we carry in our pockets.
  1314. 57:19I believe the safety issues have been
  1315. 57:21met
  1316. 57:23and the technology is being constantly
  1317. 57:25updated. Batteries are for now the best
  1318. 57:28and most economical way to provide the
  1319. 57:30least expensive power to the most amount
  1320. 57:33of consumers.
  1321. 57:35There is a direct impact on the
  1322. 57:37population if the grid goes down.
  1323. 57:41Thank you.
  1324. 57:43[applause]
  1325. 57:51>> Did you ever heard of magic? Do you guys
  1326. 58:00Hi, my name is Bob Der.
  1327. 58:04>> I have to say that I e echo the
  1328. 58:06sentiments of Dr. Schaefer and my wife
  1329. 58:08Samantha behind me. I can't really say
  1330. 58:11too much more about it. I think it's
  1331. 58:13good to be proactive and go forward and
  1332. 58:15not be reactionary and go back. We need
  1333. 58:18to say yes to best.
  1334. 58:22And I think the people that own Winston
  1335. 58:24Farm, they bought it, they own it, they
  1336. 58:26should be able to do what they want with
  1337. 58:28it. Have a good day.
  1338. 58:30>> Thank you,
  1339. 58:34[applause]
  1340. 58:36Susan.
  1341. 58:46>> Hello. Um, I live on Stallone Road. My
  1342. 58:49name is Susan Weekes. I'm speaking as a
  1343. 58:52citizen of sovereignties and the world.
  1344. 58:57I try to be a good citizen. I try to
  1345. 59:01keep up to date with what's going on in
  1346. 59:03the world. It's very difficult and
  1347. 59:05sometimes extremely depressing. And I've
  1348. 59:08been following climate change since
  1349. 59:09James Hansen, former NASA scientist and
  1350. 59:11a leading climate voice um in climate
  1351. 59:14change since 1988, has been speaking out
  1352. 59:17about it. He did speak up about it. Now
  1353. 59:20I'm reading I follow Bill McGibbon. I
  1354. 59:24don't know if you guys know who he is,
  1355. 59:25but he is one of the one of our climate
  1356. 59:28for one of our climate experts and his
  1357. 59:31main issue is climate change in this um
  1358. 59:35and what's going on. To me, it's an
  1359. 59:36existential pull the microphone down.
  1360. 59:39>> Okay. To me, it's an existential issue.
  1361. 59:41It's a an overriding existential issue
  1362. 59:44that if we don't pay attention to, our
  1363. 59:46head is in the sands. Okay.
  1364. 59:49Um, Bill McGibbon says, "We have one
  1365. 59:51tool to keep CO2 out of the atmosphere,
  1366. 59:54the substitution of clean energy for
  1367. 59:56fossil fuels. Our weapons in this fight
  1368. 59:59are solar panels, wind turbines, and
  1369. 1:00:02batteries. We need to crash them into
  1370. 1:00:05place before these systems of
  1371. 1:00:07accelerating climate change which is
  1372. 1:00:09accelerating really fast now given
  1373. 1:00:10what's going given the climate denial
  1374. 1:00:13that den denial people we have in in
  1375. 1:00:16government now before the generating
  1376. 1:00:19accelerating climate change crashes down
  1377. 1:00:20upon us that is our job now and that's
  1378. 1:00:24building
  1379. 1:00:27um Paul Krugman is someone I also follow
  1380. 1:00:30he is a Nobel Prize winning economist
  1381. 1:00:34Paul Grubin says, "We aren't just
  1382. 1:00:36burning fossil fuels. We are burning our
  1383. 1:00:38future." And I care about the future. I
  1384. 1:00:40care about the future of our children
  1385. 1:00:41and grandchildren. I care about the
  1386. 1:00:43planet we do. Paul Krubman also says,
  1387. 1:00:46"Let me talk uh let me take an optimism
  1388. 1:00:49break and talk about why batteries may
  1389. 1:00:51save the world. The decline in battery
  1390. 1:00:54prices has been incredible. It's like
  1391. 1:00:56nothing anyone has ever seen before. Why
  1392. 1:00:58does this matter?" Remember, this is an
  1393. 1:01:00economist speaking. Cheap battery
  1394. 1:01:02[snorts] storage greatly mitigates the
  1395. 1:01:04problem of intermittency which we have
  1396. 1:01:06with wind and solar.
  1397. 1:01:09>> Um battery performance and safety has
  1398. 1:01:11soared as prices have plunge.
  1399. 1:01:14>> We can expect continuing rapid
  1400. 1:01:17improvement in renewable energy to
  1401. 1:01:19mitigate the remaining risk and improve
  1402. 1:01:22efficiency.
  1403. 1:01:25In other words, I think that it's an
  1404. 1:01:27urgent matter that we accept
  1405. 1:01:30best as one of the tools we have in our
  1406. 1:01:32toolbox to mitigate climate change.
  1407. 1:01:36>> And thank you, Stephen, for your um your
  1408. 1:01:39exposition on that. That was part of my
  1409. 1:01:42part of my reasoning, too.
  1410. 1:01:43>> Others
  1411. 1:01:45over there.
  1412. 1:01:47>> And I I do believe that we need to
  1413. 1:01:49mitigate the risks. Whatever risk might
  1414. 1:01:52be, we need to to have um we have to
  1415. 1:01:55knowledge, we have to have
  1416. 1:01:56understanding, we have to mitigate any
  1417. 1:01:59sound risk, we have to mitigate any
  1418. 1:02:01risks that might occur. But I believe
  1419. 1:02:02that the safety issues have been
  1420. 1:02:04addressed in the new generations of
  1421. 1:02:06batteries
  1422. 1:02:06>> that alarm. Thank you. [applause]
  1423. 1:02:13>> That exhaust the list of speakers who
  1424. 1:02:15signed up. Is there anyone who did not
  1425. 1:02:17have a chance to sign up to address the
  1426. 1:02:19board?
  1427. 1:02:22Okay, move on
  1428. 1:02:25>> to supervisor's comments.
  1429. 1:02:28>> Green and clean is still happening. You
  1430. 1:02:30have time this week to visit the town
  1431. 1:02:34clerk's office, sign up and collect
  1432. 1:02:36bags. You and your neighbors can go out
  1433. 1:02:39uh clean the side of the road or an area
  1434. 1:02:41that has been littered over the winter
  1435. 1:02:43and our transportation employees will
  1436. 1:02:45come out and pick it up on Monday and
  1437. 1:02:47Tuesday. So, a great opportunity to help
  1438. 1:02:51um before the grass gets thick. So, that
  1439. 1:02:54that opportunity exists in the next
  1440. 1:02:55couple days. Please take advantage of
  1441. 1:02:57it. We've I want to compliment the
  1442. 1:02:58community. We've had uh a pretty
  1443. 1:03:01overwhelming interest this year. Great.
  1444. 1:03:03>> A lot of folks signed up.
  1445. 1:03:05>> So, a lot of folks have signed up
  1446. 1:03:07already. Uh you might see the green bags
  1447. 1:03:09on the side of the road,
  1448. 1:03:11>> red bags on the side. Thank you. And uh
  1449. 1:03:14you know, it's an opportunity for you to
  1450. 1:03:15participate as well. All right. As for
  1451. 1:03:18approval of minutes pre-board meeting of
  1452. 1:03:204126, town board meeting of 4126.
  1453. 1:03:24>> Motion.
  1454. 1:03:25>> Thank you. Shino discussion. All those
  1455. 1:03:28in favor say I.
  1456. 1:03:30>> Any opposed? Motion will carry. There's
  1457. 1:03:34for approval of bills.
  1458. 1:03:40>> General fund 135,259.90.
  1459. 1:03:47General outside village $7,5244
  1460. 1:03:52highway $35,93785
  1461. 1:03:57capital projects
  1462. 1:03:59$10,577
  1463. 1:04:02lighting district $139,7342
  1464. 1:04:07sewer operation and maintenance
  1465. 1:04:09$139,2258
  1466. 1:04:14water operation maintenance $1.7 7
  1467. 1:04:18Central Hudson $37,134.92.
  1468. 1:04:22Is there a second?
  1469. 1:04:23>> Second.
  1470. 1:04:24>> Thank you, Mr. Stur. Any discussion?
  1471. 1:04:27Those in favor say I.
  1472. 1:04:29>> I.
  1473. 1:04:29>> I.
  1474. 1:04:30>> Thank you. Any opposed? Motion carries.
  1475. 1:04:33Move on to department head reports.
  1476. 1:04:36Chief SW.
  1477. 1:04:39>> I sent a monthly to Lisa before meeting.
  1478. 1:04:42So I have that staff there from the
  1479. 1:04:43department. Uh we just finished up a
  1480. 1:04:46multi jurisdictional rifle course, a
  1481. 1:04:49breath analysis course
  1482. 1:04:51this week during final practice
  1483. 1:04:53construction.
  1484. 1:04:54We were able to participate in uh groups
  1485. 1:04:57for inclusion last Friday. was a really
  1486. 1:04:59good event with the Tigers Special
  1487. 1:05:02Olympics basketball team that played
  1488. 1:05:03against.
  1489. 1:05:12>> Oh, over the last two weeks, we've been
  1490. 1:05:14changing the touchback readers in the
  1491. 1:05:16mountain district to flex read to make
  1492. 1:05:19it easier to read for us. We can read
  1493. 1:05:22from the vehicle rather than going
  1494. 1:05:24house.
  1495. 1:05:26We're done doing that. We're going to
  1496. 1:05:28continue hydrants in the water district
  1497. 1:05:30and then continue on to
  1498. 1:05:37shout out to you and your staff on the
  1499. 1:05:42>> Mr.
  1500. 1:05:44Good evening. Um, all the plows have
  1501. 1:05:47been taken off the trucks. Um, they've
  1502. 1:05:50been washed. The trucks have been
  1503. 1:05:52thoroughly washed. The tops of the
  1504. 1:05:53trucks, they have went through washers
  1505. 1:05:56to wash the bottom of the trucks. So,
  1506. 1:05:58we're hoping we're pretty much past the
  1507. 1:06:01winter and we don't get any more bad
  1508. 1:06:02weather. Um, Monday we started uh
  1509. 1:06:06plateau mountain road. That road will
  1510. 1:06:10still be closed down for probably
  1511. 1:06:12another four weeks. Um, I've been in
  1512. 1:06:15contact daily with the honor
  1513. 1:06:17superintendent. Uh, they have some bad
  1514. 1:06:20washouts on the road that they are
  1515. 1:06:21addressing. Uh, their washouts are more
  1516. 1:06:25entailed than what we're doing. Uh we're
  1517. 1:06:27milling the road. We're reclaiming the
  1518. 1:06:29road. And then we're going to repave it
  1519. 1:06:32from the bottom of the hill towards the
  1520. 1:06:34town line.
  1521. 1:06:35>> Stupid road.
  1522. 1:06:36>> Um and also on a we have three sweepers
  1523. 1:06:40out um for clean up on yards and uh
  1524. 1:06:44roads and stuff. So most of all the yard
  1525. 1:06:48repairs have been done. We had four
  1526. 1:06:51crews out on that for the last three,
  1527. 1:06:53four weeks. Most of that is done now.
  1528. 1:06:57We also have the sweepers out. Um
  1529. 1:07:00hopefully in another week or two we'll
  1530. 1:07:02have all the rows done
  1531. 1:07:04swept for the first time and then we'll
  1532. 1:07:07go back around and uh the rows that had
  1533. 1:07:10extra heavy stuff on we'll do it. If
  1534. 1:07:13anybody had any roads that wasn't done
  1535. 1:07:16or any yards that they feel wasn't
  1536. 1:07:18addressed properly, please feel free to
  1537. 1:07:20call the office and myself or my
  1538. 1:07:23assistant will come out and look at it
  1539. 1:07:25and I'm sure we will.
  1540. 1:07:28>> Thank you.
  1541. 1:07:30Any missing department heads?
  1542. 1:07:34>> All right, move on to board committee
  1543. 1:07:35reports. Mr. Bar.
  1544. 1:07:37>> Uh yes. Um, April 17th, as I've said
  1545. 1:07:41earlier, uh, the library is having a
  1546. 1:07:43celebrate library day that's coming up,
  1547. 1:07:46I guess, in two days. It's at the
  1548. 1:07:48library at 6 p.m. Um, there will be a
  1549. 1:07:51presentation by just
  1550. 1:07:53>> giving us the history of the SE library.
  1551. 1:07:55It goes back quite a bit further than I
  1552. 1:07:58thought. Uh,
  1553. 1:08:00early 1800s, actually. Um anyway,
  1554. 1:08:04promise to be a really good historical
  1555. 1:08:06lecture and uh there'll be the executive
  1556. 1:08:08director from the Hudson Valley uh
  1557. 1:08:10Library Association there
  1558. 1:08:12>> and Hudson Library System.
  1559. 1:08:14>> Thank you, Tim. Hudson Library System.
  1560. 1:08:17Um I want to say a few words now about
  1561. 1:08:20the uh conservation advisory committee.
  1562. 1:08:25So um the part of the climate smart uh
  1563. 1:08:30task force is the uh repair cafe. Uh the
  1564. 1:08:34repair cafe was u uh held in um
  1565. 1:08:41March 7th. But I just want to say what
  1566. 1:08:43what the great thing that they served 80
  1567. 1:08:45guests. Um they repaired a stunning 121
  1568. 1:08:49items. Um over 26 items. Uh
  1569. 1:08:54that um thanks to the donations from the
  1570. 1:08:57community, they were able to provide
  1571. 1:08:59lunch for the for the people
  1572. 1:09:03repairing items and to buy kits for them
  1573. 1:09:06to help them in in doing that. Uh they
  1574. 1:09:08repaired things such as lamp parts,
  1575. 1:09:11sewing and mending supplies, jewelry um
  1576. 1:09:15uh well these are the kits, jewelry
  1577. 1:09:17repair kits, glues of various kinds. Um
  1578. 1:09:21they repaired everything from uh they
  1579. 1:09:23did knife, scissors, sharpening, leather
  1580. 1:09:25stitching, doll stitching, gluing,
  1581. 1:09:28zippers, a wide variety of things. It
  1582. 1:09:30was a big success. They should be having
  1583. 1:09:32another one sometime in June. Um I heard
  1584. 1:09:35you watch the calendar [snorts] for
  1585. 1:09:38that.
  1586. 1:09:42>> Thank you, Mr. Bar. Mr.
  1587. 1:09:44Hey, the uh last week the TV23 committee
  1588. 1:09:47met uh we have uh a number of applicants
  1589. 1:09:51for the position of the new program
  1590. 1:09:54director. All the committee members
  1591. 1:09:56receive the resumeumés for those
  1592. 1:09:58applications and uh are going to be
  1593. 1:10:01ranking them and then we will be
  1594. 1:10:05conducting interviews within the next
  1595. 1:10:07two weeks, two to three weeks and
  1596. 1:10:09hopefully have a new program director
  1597. 1:10:11for TV23.
  1598. 1:10:13So things are moving along. Uh a special
  1599. 1:10:16thanks again tonight to one of our
  1600. 1:10:18committee members, Mr. Lopez, who is
  1601. 1:10:20filming. Um volunteered to do this. And
  1602. 1:10:24because
  1603. 1:10:27Jorge is here, these meetings are
  1604. 1:10:30available now on the town website and
  1605. 1:10:33people who are not on online or you're
  1606. 1:10:35not here in person, you can access them
  1607. 1:10:38through your computer.
  1608. 1:10:41Um last night the sorghes transportation
  1609. 1:10:44advisory committee met. Uh we have that
  1610. 1:10:47is a committee that's made up of both
  1611. 1:10:49village like TV23 both village and town
  1612. 1:10:52representatives. Uh one of the items
  1613. 1:10:56presented last night was the
  1614. 1:10:58construction by DOT of sidewalks. If you
  1615. 1:11:01were went down towards the Ryan house
  1616. 1:11:05and if you headed down towards South on
  1617. 1:11:07[clears throat] 9W today, you can see
  1618. 1:11:09the beginning of the work for new
  1619. 1:11:11sidewalk walks that do is putting in. Uh
  1620. 1:11:15on the village and town website, there
  1621. 1:11:17is a map showing you the progression of
  1622. 1:11:19the sidewalks. We have not heard yet
  1623. 1:11:22back about our tap side path project,
  1624. 1:11:26but I'm hoping that because DOT is
  1625. 1:11:29putting in sidewalks that the next step
  1626. 1:11:33would be the side path and fingers
  1627. 1:11:36crossed that this would be hopefully
  1628. 1:11:38make our grant application more
  1629. 1:11:41successful. Um, as far as
  1630. 1:11:44>> there are going to be traffic delays
  1631. 1:11:47>> during construction. There are going to
  1632. 1:11:48be traffic delays. Today was the first
  1633. 1:11:51day they kind of experienced that. But
  1634. 1:11:53that project's going to last for a
  1635. 1:11:55while. It's going to go from Seaman Park
  1636. 1:11:57all the way to the church. So, as they
  1637. 1:11:59go through that,
  1638. 1:12:01>> during construction hours, there's going
  1639. 1:12:02to be quite a bit of traffic going.
  1640. 1:12:05>> Yeah. You can you can see the base where
  1641. 1:12:08they digging out to put the the
  1642. 1:12:10sidewalks in. Uh we also learned last
  1643. 1:12:13night that on July 4th, which is going
  1644. 1:12:16to be a big huge celebration here to
  1645. 1:12:18celebrate the 250th anniversary, there
  1646. 1:12:21will be a race uh prior to the parade
  1647. 1:12:26that people can sign up for. Um it's
  1648. 1:12:30just what was it? 5K
  1649. 1:12:33>> and it'll go along the parade route and
  1650. 1:12:38uh you know for people coming into the
  1651. 1:12:40village coming into the town of Sorades
  1652. 1:12:43it's another special event basically for
  1653. 1:12:45Fourth of July. So just keep that in
  1654. 1:12:49mind if you have travel plans to come in
  1655. 1:12:52and see the parade that there will be a
  1656. 1:12:555K going on. I think it starts around
  1657. 1:12:579:00 in the morning. Um the night of
  1658. 1:13:00July 3rd, there will be a food truck
  1659. 1:13:04festival at Cantine Field. There will be
  1660. 1:13:07a band in the large pavilion and there
  1661. 1:13:10will also be craft vendors there to kick
  1662. 1:13:12off the weekend. Also on the weekend,
  1663. 1:13:15the historical society is going to be
  1664. 1:13:17open on the 4th. The American Legion
  1665. 1:13:21will have uh special events going on.
  1666. 1:13:24Legion Hall to showcase the museum which
  1667. 1:13:27is on the second floor of Legion Post
  1668. 1:13:3072. Uh there'll be uh red, white, and
  1669. 1:13:33blue cupcakes and snow cones available
  1670. 1:13:36free of charge on the lawn of the
  1671. 1:13:38Kirsten house and the house will be open
  1672. 1:13:41also for viewing. So
  1673. 1:13:45>> also the big parade. Um, I I think you
  1674. 1:13:48can anticipate more floats and more
  1675. 1:13:51bands to celebrate the upcoming
  1676. 1:13:54anniversary.
  1677. 1:13:56Um,
  1678. 1:13:57there's also uh the arts commission.
  1679. 1:14:01Um, there is there's so much going on
  1680. 1:14:04this Friday night at the um
  1681. 1:14:09across from Mnt Bank. There's going to
  1682. 1:14:11be an art collage, uh, a mural
  1683. 1:14:14presentation, and unfortunately, it's
  1684. 1:14:16the same time as the library program at
  1685. 1:14:196:00. So, you can't say you have nothing
  1686. 1:14:22to do on a Friday night in Sarities.
  1687. 1:14:24There's, you know, go on the website.
  1688. 1:14:26There's so many things happening in the
  1689. 1:14:28village now that spring is here. And the
  1690. 1:14:32art work for the street art will be
  1691. 1:14:36showcased. I believe it's going to be at
  1692. 1:14:38Stone Coney in a couple of weeks. Stay
  1693. 1:14:41just keep track on the website. Uh
  1694. 1:14:45you'll be able to get a sneak preview of
  1695. 1:14:47all of the the new dogs that'll be
  1696. 1:14:49gracing our streets within the next
  1697. 1:14:52month.
  1698. 1:14:55>> Thank you.
  1699. 1:14:55>> Oh, I have one more thing.
  1700. 1:14:57>> Sorry, [laughter]
  1701. 1:14:59>> it's right in front of me. How could I
  1702. 1:15:00forget it? Um you all know what a splash
  1703. 1:15:03pad is. You're probably sick of having
  1704. 1:15:05me talk about every meeting, but we are
  1705. 1:15:07having a Brooks barbecue on Thursday
  1706. 1:15:10night, May 21st from 4 to 7:00 p.m. It's
  1707. 1:15:15going to be at the large pavilion at
  1708. 1:15:16Canheim Field. And if you prepay, it's a
  1709. 1:15:20bargain. It's only $16. And if you pay
  1710. 1:15:23at the door, it's $18. And uh you can
  1711. 1:15:26get your tickets at Town and Country
  1712. 1:15:28Liquors, at Sawyer Savings, uh not
  1713. 1:15:31Sawyer, Sawyer Motors. um village hall
  1714. 1:15:35and town hall and there's posters
  1715. 1:15:39>> that are be all over. It's on the
  1716. 1:15:41website and if you are one of the
  1717. 1:15:45members of the community like my
  1718. 1:15:47daughter who doesn't carry cash, oh mom,
  1719. 1:15:49everything is Venmo. You Venmo
  1720. 1:15:51everything. Um that's the the younger
  1721. 1:15:54generation. That's how they they do
  1722. 1:15:56things. So the Venmo is right on the
  1723. 1:15:59poster. So, if you're a Venmo shopper,
  1724. 1:16:02you can order your barbecue tickets.
  1725. 1:16:04Last year, we sold out. We're committed
  1726. 1:16:07to sell 500 this year. And please
  1727. 1:16:10support the splash pad because I don't
  1728. 1:16:12want to end up having to buy 10 chicken
  1729. 1:16:16dinners and put them in the freezer if
  1730. 1:16:17we can't make our quota. So, uh, if
  1731. 1:16:20you're at the softball field, if you've
  1732. 1:16:22got kids playing games, uh, you know,
  1733. 1:16:26whatever, it's it's great to be able to
  1734. 1:16:28have your softball game. come over to
  1735. 1:16:31the biblian, eat it in, eat in or take
  1736. 1:16:34out and it's for a good cause. We have
  1737. 1:16:37not heard back on our grant application,
  1738. 1:16:39but the committee met on Monday night
  1739. 1:16:42and this is
  1740. 1:16:45>> food truck festival, the Brooks
  1741. 1:16:47Barbecue, and we're also planning an art
  1742. 1:16:50auction the end of August. Bob Sarah
  1743. 1:16:53Casano, who is a very entertaining
  1744. 1:16:55auctioneer, is going to be doing an
  1745. 1:16:57auction. We're going to have it at the
  1746. 1:16:59barn at the Kirstston House and it will
  1747. 1:17:02be art, local artists who will be
  1748. 1:17:04donating their artwork and pieces of
  1749. 1:17:07art. Could be a piece of pottery. So, if
  1750. 1:17:09you know anyone or if you're an artist
  1751. 1:17:11in the audience and you'd like to donate
  1752. 1:17:13and help us raise money for the splash
  1753. 1:17:15pad, um just give me a call.
  1754. 1:17:20>> Thank you.
  1755. 1:17:22>> Uh first report for the animal shelter.
  1756. 1:17:25The new building footings are in as well
  1757. 1:17:27as the foundation walls. Um the
  1758. 1:17:30shelter's taken in a total of 21 intakes
  1759. 1:17:33for March and 20 adoptions. Um for those
  1760. 1:17:38of you who don't know, this time of the
  1761. 1:17:41year is typically considered kitten
  1762. 1:17:42season. Um four of the stray cats that
  1763. 1:17:46they took in were all um pregnant cats
  1764. 1:17:49uh that basically produced 11 more
  1765. 1:17:52kittens. So, I can commend the shelter
  1766. 1:17:55staff, Ellie, Morgan, and Shalon. Um,
  1767. 1:17:58they've basically created a skillful
  1768. 1:18:01group to help uh volunteer and foster
  1769. 1:18:04those um
  1770. 1:18:07kittens and and their mothers um to take
  1771. 1:18:10them out of the shelter and lessen the
  1772. 1:18:12burden of the shelter itself.
  1773. 1:18:16The two fundraising events coming up is
  1774. 1:18:19the Blue Jeans ball on the 23rd at
  1775. 1:18:22Fortune Valley Manor and load them into
  1776. 1:18:24the ambulance with only the push of a
  1777. 1:18:26button.
  1778. 1:18:28Longtime employee Brian Brightop, also a
  1779. 1:18:31volunteer member of the Glasgow Fire
  1780. 1:18:32District, uh will be retiring in the
  1781. 1:18:35near future here. Uh Brian's been a
  1782. 1:18:38pillar to the Diaz ambulance company and
  1783. 1:18:42our emergency service community for many
  1784. 1:18:44years. Um ironically, I had the
  1785. 1:18:47opportunity to work directly handinand
  1786. 1:18:50with Brian yesterday with a very close
  1787. 1:18:52to home major trauma incident. Um you
  1788. 1:18:55know, Brian will pro, you know, be one
  1789. 1:18:57of the ones that will truly be missed.
  1790. 1:19:00uh who's been part of what I consider
  1791. 1:19:02probably the most extraordinary group of
  1792. 1:19:04first responders around. Um
  1793. 1:19:08so I I hope Brian enjoys his retirement
  1794. 1:19:10to its fullest and uh commend him on a
  1795. 1:19:14on a great career.
  1796. 1:19:16There's a blood drive on the 18th from 1
  1797. 1:19:19to 7 at Cedar Grove Firehouse on 32 May
  1798. 1:19:2218th. Um, I urge those who can donate,
  1799. 1:19:26please donate.
  1800. 1:19:29And, uh, the garlic festival planning
  1801. 1:19:31committee is well underway. If you're
  1802. 1:19:33looking to volunteer as a Kuanas member
  1803. 1:19:35and join a great effort, check out the,
  1804. 1:19:38uh, sorry website and, uh, get engaged
  1805. 1:19:41there. That's it.
  1806. 1:19:43>> Thank you, Ambassador.
  1807. 1:19:45>> Is this on?
  1808. 1:19:52Uh I'm reporting on the uh meeting of
  1809. 1:19:55the housing advisory uh committee which
  1810. 1:19:58occurred on April 6. Uh the housing
  1811. 1:20:02advisory committee if you're not
  1812. 1:20:04familiar like already was created under
  1813. 1:20:08county's housing smart communities
  1814. 1:20:09program and it worked to promote
  1815. 1:20:12affordable housing that is tailored to
  1816. 1:20:14the particular needs and context of our
  1817. 1:20:17community. Uh, one of their ongoing
  1818. 1:20:19projects is a community action campaign
  1819. 1:20:21which brings information in a variety of
  1820. 1:20:25uh, venues and opportunities um, about
  1821. 1:20:29affordable housing solutions uh, brings
  1822. 1:20:31that information to our community. Um,
  1823. 1:20:34that's uh relevant now because this
  1824. 1:20:37coming Earth Week, which begins on
  1825. 1:20:39Friday, will feature a tableabling event
  1826. 1:20:42on in addition to a a slew of great
  1827. 1:20:45activities, it'll feature a tableabling
  1828. 1:20:46event on Sunday, April 26th at the
  1829. 1:20:50corner of Maine and Market, uh, where
  1830. 1:20:53along with nonprofit groups tableabling,
  1831. 1:20:56members of the housing advisory
  1832. 1:20:57committee will have a table there from
  1833. 1:20:5910:00 a.m. at 4 p.m. and they look
  1834. 1:21:01forward to sharing information about
  1835. 1:21:04their work and hearing from uh any
  1836. 1:21:06visitors to their table about uh your
  1837. 1:21:10experiences in navigating uh the housing
  1838. 1:21:12market in so anything else you want to
  1839. 1:21:15share or talk about regarding housing.
  1840. 1:21:17Um you can visit the Earth Day Week
  1841. 1:21:19website for the full lineup which is
  1842. 1:21:21soarweek.org
  1843. 1:21:24and that's all from me.
  1844. 1:21:26>> Okay, thank you. All right, we'll move
  1845. 1:21:29on to motions and resolutions. Mr.
  1846. 1:21:31>> Motion to approve the proclamation as on
  1847. 1:21:33file pertaining to May as American
  1848. 1:21:36Legion Popping.
  1849. 1:21:38Second discussion.
  1850. 1:21:41This is an annual event for the American
  1851. 1:21:42Legion.
  1852. 1:21:44You know those feature a very fine young
  1853. 1:21:47lady and they if you can buy a poppy it
  1854. 1:21:50helps the activities over there. Any
  1855. 1:21:53further discussion?
  1856. 1:21:56>> Mr. Bar.
  1857. 1:21:57>> Yes.
  1858. 1:21:57>> Mr.
  1859. 1:21:58Yes.
  1860. 1:21:58>> Mr. Vino,
  1861. 1:21:59>> yes. Mr.
  1862. 1:22:00>> Sper,
  1863. 1:22:01>> yes.
  1864. 1:22:03>> Uh, I move to approve the memorandum of
  1865. 1:22:05agreement as on trial between the town
  1866. 1:22:07of Sardies and the Communications
  1867. 1:22:09Workers of America, CWA.
  1868. 1:22:12>> Second.
  1869. 1:22:13>> Thank you, Mr.
  1870. 1:22:15Discussion. Um, we've this was all
  1871. 1:22:20negotiations have their own story to
  1872. 1:22:22them. Uh, this one was I found very
  1873. 1:22:25unique. Mr. sermon as we partner in
  1874. 1:22:27negotiating. Uh we think we came to a a
  1875. 1:22:31fair agreement with our staff in the
  1876. 1:22:34union. Uh this will extend for four
  1877. 1:22:37years so bring relative peace and uh
  1878. 1:22:41give us the opportunity our budget
  1879. 1:22:42season to know what our labor costs are
  1880. 1:22:45going to look like for the coming year.
  1881. 1:22:48>> Further discussion.
  1882. 1:22:50>> Mr. Bar.
  1883. 1:22:51>> I vote yes.
  1884. 1:22:52>> Mr. Thoren.
  1885. 1:22:53>> Yes.
  1886. 1:22:53>> Mr. Aino.
  1887. 1:22:54>> Yes.
  1888. 1:22:54>> I Oh, sorry. Miss Bassler.
  1889. 1:22:56>> Yes.
  1890. 1:22:57>> I move.
  1891. 1:22:58>> I'd like to make a motion to authorize a
  1892. 1:23:00refund of $200 to Elizabeth Reese
  1893. 1:23:03related to the denial of a zoning board
  1894. 1:23:06of appeals interpretation fee pertaining
  1895. 1:23:09to a proposed battery storage energy
  1896. 1:23:12storage system that would be developed
  1897. 1:23:14uh by Key Capture Energy and located at
  1898. 1:23:177,000 roadies, New York on premises
  1899. 1:23:20owned by excuse me realy holdings. Uh I
  1900. 1:23:24I LLC SPL number 18.1-4-5-100
  1901. 1:23:32second
  1902. 1:23:34>> discussion
  1903. 1:23:36speaker itself
  1904. 1:23:39>> Mr. Bar.
  1905. 1:23:41>> Yes.
  1906. 1:23:41>> Mr. Sto.
  1907. 1:23:42>> Yes.
  1908. 1:23:42>> Mr. Aino.
  1909. 1:23:43>> Yes.
  1910. 1:23:44>> M. Basser.
  1911. 1:23:44>> Yes.
  1912. 1:23:45as
  1913. 1:23:46>> like to make a motion to approve the
  1914. 1:23:48resolution adopting local law number
  1915. 1:23:50three of 2026
  1916. 1:23:53regarding amending chapter 190 of the
  1917. 1:23:56municipal code sewer use law.
  1918. 1:23:59>> Second discussion we held public hearing
  1919. 1:24:02earlier this evening regarding this
  1920. 1:24:03topic modification
  1921. 1:24:06was requested by DEC's best practices.
  1922. 1:24:11We came across a deficiency in
  1923. 1:24:14preparation for grant application.
  1924. 1:24:16Upon adoption of this, we will be
  1925. 1:24:19reflecting what DC prescribes as best
  1926. 1:24:21practice.
  1927. 1:24:22>> Any further discussion?
  1928. 1:24:24>> Mr. Bar,
  1929. 1:24:26>> yes.
  1930. 1:24:26>> Mr. Thur,
  1931. 1:24:27>> yes. Mr.
  1932. 1:24:28>> Yes. Master,
  1933. 1:24:29>> yes.
  1934. 1:24:30>> I vote yes.
  1935. 1:24:32like to make a motion to declare as
  1936. 1:24:34surplus and no longer of use to town
  1937. 1:24:36surgeries
  1938. 1:24:372017
  1939. 1:24:39bin number 1 FM5
  1940. 1:24:43K8B
  1941. 1:24:4485H
  1942. 1:24:46GB8
  1943. 1:24:483315
  1944. 1:24:49as per the recommendation of the
  1945. 1:24:51building department
  1946. 1:24:52>> second discussion
  1947. 1:24:54we were able to replace this vehicle
  1948. 1:24:58with a F-150 Lightning which is the EV
  1949. 1:25:01vehicle Our building department is now
  1950. 1:25:03using that as part of their fleet to go
  1951. 1:25:05to inspection sites. Uh the funding for
  1952. 1:25:08this vehicle came through our climate
  1953. 1:25:12smart task force and a grant that they
  1954. 1:25:15were able to secure giving us $100,000
  1955. 1:25:18to do things that will reduce our carbon
  1956. 1:25:21footprint. So this is a great use and I
  1957. 1:25:24think this vehicle is going to be very
  1958. 1:25:28lasting. Uh the EVs the regenerative
  1959. 1:25:32gring and stuff uh seems to last longer
  1960. 1:25:36and need a little bit less meat and so
  1961. 1:25:38we think this is going to be a great
  1962. 1:25:39addition to the building department and
  1963. 1:25:41look forward to having another
  1964. 1:25:42opportunity to expand our fleet this
  1965. 1:25:45way.
  1966. 1:25:46>> Any further discussion?
  1967. 1:25:48>> Mr. Barino,
  1968. 1:25:52>> yes.
  1969. 1:25:53>> Master,
  1970. 1:25:54>> yes.
  1971. 1:25:55>> Yes. Motion to authorize the building
  1972. 1:25:57inspector to dispose of and award to the
  1973. 1:25:59highest bidder 2017 Ford Explorer bin
  1974. 1:26:02number 1 FM 5K 8B85HGB
  1975. 1:26:0883315
  1976. 1:26:10via auctions international
  1977. 1:26:12>> second [clears throat] discussion
  1978. 1:26:16>> Mr. Bar
  1979. 1:26:19>> yes
  1980. 1:26:19>> Mr.
  1981. 1:26:20Yes.
  1982. 1:26:20>> Miss Fler.
  1983. 1:26:21>> Yes.
  1984. 1:26:22>> Yes. Miss anything?
  1985. 1:26:24>> No.
  1986. 1:26:25>> No. Okay.
  1987. 1:26:26>> Any motion to journ
  1988. 1:26:29discussions? Unfortunately,
  1989. 1:26:32opportunity's been uh a little bit
  1990. 1:26:34rocked by the passing of a number of our
  1991. 1:26:36members. We share their names and uh
  1992. 1:26:39please join us in a brief moment of
  1993. 1:26:41silence.
  1994. 1:26:43Paul Farisana whose family runs bread
  1995. 1:26:46distribution company here in s east.
  1996. 1:26:49Anna Jones whose family has been deeply
  1997. 1:26:53involved in Mount Mar district and many
  1998. 1:26:55athletic organizations here at Cantine
  1999. 1:26:58to include
  2000. 1:27:00their family used to own town hall and
  2001. 1:27:03was a shirt factory. They long
  2002. 1:27:05outstanding members very untimely
  2003. 1:27:07passing. Sarah Joan Grant
  2004. 1:27:10relative of Francel family many people
  2005. 1:27:13know their involvement in the long
  2006. 1:27:15tenure of George Francella Jenner for
  2007. 1:27:19half
  2008. 1:27:20>> Halfway.
  2009. 1:27:22So, uh, she was the mother-in-law of a
  2010. 1:27:26retired police officer, Jeremy Escowski,
  2011. 1:27:28and RJ Macau, who, uh, was deeply
  2012. 1:27:31involved in the Irish community here in
  2013. 1:27:33the Series, but also played an
  2014. 1:27:35instrumental role in helping out at the
  2015. 1:27:38court with some conflict resolution and
  2016. 1:27:40some translation work. Please take a
  2017. 1:27:43moment with us to uh, share their
  2018. 1:27:45memory.
  2019. 1:27:56Okay, thank you. Our next scheduled
  2020. 1:27:58meeting is Wednesday, May 6, 2026.
  2021. 1:28:01Pre-board meeting at 6:30 p.m. Town
  2022. 1:28:03Board meeting at 7:00 p.m. All those in
  2023. 1:28:05favor, say I.
  2024. 1:28:08>> Any opposed?
  2025. 1:28:09>> Motion carries. Thank you all for
  2026. 1:28:11coming.

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