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16 Year Old Brings Back Evidence From the Afterlife That No One Can Explain (NDE Files) — Transcript

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  1. 0:03May 20th, 1967.
  2. 0:05An unremarkable day.
  3. 0:07A 16-year-old girl eats dinner with her
  4. 0:09mother and a friend.
  5. 0:11She starts to feel herself being pulled
  6. 0:14away.
  7. 0:15"Stretched," she said, "like a piece of
  8. 0:18taffy."
  9. 0:19Woozy, she stands up to tell her mother
  10. 0:21she's going to pass out.
  11. 0:23But before she can speak,
  12. 0:25she collapses.
  13. 0:27They put her in the car to go to the
  14. 0:29hospital.
  15. 0:30The nearest one is 20 minutes away.
  16. 0:33They're running out of time. She's
  17. 0:34stopped breathing. Someone calls for
  18. 0:36help. The girl hears sirens, ambulances.
  19. 0:40She's tired. She wants to be done. But
  20. 0:43she realizes something.
  21. 0:45She has to fight.
  22. 0:46She has to fight for her life.
  23. 0:49She tries. She urges herself to hang on,
  24. 0:51to stay.
  25. 0:53But it's just too hard. It's too much.
  26. 0:57She can't do it.
  27. 0:59She surrenders. [music]
  28. 1:13Renee Passero grew up in La Crescenta,
  29. 1:16California.
  30. 1:18It was a town so small they didn't even
  31. 1:20have a post office.
  32. 1:21Everyone knew each other.
  33. 1:23At age four, Renee nearly died of
  34. 1:26scarlet fever.
  35. 1:28The illness lingered for years and kept
  36. 1:30her bedridden. [music]
  37. 1:32But a sweet elderly man who she saw
  38. 1:35around and called her granddaddy kept
  39. 1:37her company.
  40. 1:39When later she identified her granddaddy
  41. 1:41in a photo, she learned that he had died
  42. 1:44before her mother was born.
  43. 1:46Later, her dear friend and cousin
  44. 1:49Nanette appeared to her and told her
  45. 1:51that she had died that day during a
  46. 1:53tonsillectomy.
  47. 1:55Nanette was happy but sad her grieving
  48. 1:57[music] parents.
  49. 1:59Renee told her mother about Nanette.
  50. 2:02Soon after, the phone rang
  51. 2:04>> [music]
  52. 2:04>> and Nanette's mother was on the other
  53. 2:06line
  54. 2:07telling her that Nanette had died.
  55. 2:10At age seven, Renee was diagnosed with
  56. 2:13rheumatic [music] fever.
  57. 2:15Things were worse this time and she
  58. 2:17nearly died.
  59. 2:19Granddaddy came back
  60. 2:20>> [music]
  61. 2:21>> as well as a beautiful, radiant being.
  62. 2:24She felt peace and did not want to get
  63. 2:27better.
  64. 2:28But she had something to learn.
  65. 2:31As I was grieving and bemoaning to my
  66. 2:33granddaddy about being sent back in a
  67. 2:36flash it became clear to me that
  68. 2:38suffering in this life can be a gift.
  69. 2:42Suffering is a catalyst which creates
  70. 2:44for us opportunities to grow
  71. 2:46spiritually.
  72. 2:48It helps us both individually and as a
  73. 2:50society to develop spiritual qualities.
  74. 2:55It's an interesting statement. It sounds
  75. 2:57like a bit of a paradox but it's one
  76. 3:00that strangely enough has been echoed in
  77. 3:02other spiritual experiences.
  78. 3:04It was explained in the greatest detail
  79. 3:06by the [music] 18th century Swedish
  80. 3:08scientist and theologian Emanuel
  81. 3:10Swedenborg
  82. 3:12who encountered [music] the same thing
  83. 3:13in his spiritual experiences.
  84. 3:17Anyone who imagines that the outer self
  85. 3:19can be brought into correspondence
  86. 3:21without inward struggle is mistaken.
  87. 3:25Times of trial are the means for getting
  88. 3:27rid of evil and falsity and replacing
  89. 3:30[music] them with goodness and truth.
  90. 3:33Renee Passero had already glimpsed more
  91. 3:36spiritual truth than most
  92. 3:38and at 16, in the middle of this new
  93. 3:41medical crisis she was about to [music]
  94. 3:43see them fully.
  95. 3:56>> Renee was barely conscious. She heard
  96. 3:58her friend calling to her, shouting,
  97. 4:00"Renee, don't die. Don't die."
  98. 4:03Weak, overwhelmed,
  99. 4:06Renee surrendered.
  100. 4:08She entered a state of peacefulness.
  101. 4:12She became a ball of light and energy
  102. 4:15hovering in the crowd around her body.
  103. 4:18She could feel everything. Every feeling
  104. 4:21that everyone around her was feeling.
  105. 4:23She knew what her mother, her neighbors,
  106. 4:25her friends, and the firemen were
  107. 4:27feeling.
  108. 4:28And she felt it, too.
  109. 4:31She felt so alive, so peaceful.
  110. 4:35Why was everyone so sad?
  111. 4:37Suddenly, she was bumped up higher,
  112. 4:40floating above the scene of her death.
  113. 4:42She felt sad for the people below her
  114. 4:44and tried to tell them she was okay.
  115. 4:48But she was light and energy. She had no
  116. 4:50body, no mouth to communicate with.
  117. 4:54There was nothing she could do.
  118. 4:56So she turned away, floating farther and
  119. 4:59farther away until she could see the
  120. 5:01whole Earth.
  121. 5:04But at the same time, she could see
  122. 5:06every detail, every being [music] and
  123. 5:08molecule on the Earth.
  124. 5:11And she realized the Earth was singing.
  125. 5:15Everything on it, every living being
  126. 5:17>> [music]
  127. 5:17>> had a note to sing.
  128. 5:20All life was part of the song with a
  129. 5:22unique tone to contribute.
  130. 5:26>> At this point,
  131. 5:28I became so enchanted that I was beyond
  132. 5:32being, I think, a self.
  133. 5:35I simply
  134. 5:36>> [music]
  135. 5:36>> was, and it was as if I were singing my
  136. 5:39own note
  137. 5:40>> [music]
  138. 5:40>> in this grand symphony
  139. 5:43of life and existence that's the Earth
  140. 5:45and all of us.
  141. 5:47And I began to sing I am, and it was not
  142. 5:51a statement of ego or self. It was
  143. 5:53really a statement of absolute love that
  144. 5:58that by my being I simply was expressing
  145. 6:01absolute love and connectedness and
  146. 6:04unity and harmony with all of existence.
  147. 6:08And I was adding
  148. 6:09my particular and absolutely unique note
  149. 6:13to this grand
  150. 6:14song of life that reverberated
  151. 6:16throughout all existence.
  152. 6:19>> Swedenborg would agree. He described
  153. 6:22heaven as a grand human.
  154. 6:24One united being where every individual
  155. 6:28plays a crucial role within.
  156. 6:32Heaven, taken in a single all-inclusive
  157. 6:35grasp, reflects a single individual.
  158. 6:39People who love to do good to others,
  159. 6:41not for self-centered reasons, but for
  160. 6:43the sake of the good itself, are in the
  161. 6:46universal human, that is, in heaven.
  162. 6:50As Renee absorbed this new awareness,
  163. 6:52she began to feel an irresistible,
  164. 6:55almost magnetic pull from a radiant,
  165. 6:58beautiful light.
  166. 7:00She didn't resist.
  167. 7:14The light drew her to a tunnel,
  168. 7:17a place of transition [music]
  169. 7:19where she was aware that other beings
  170. 7:20were there with her.
  171. 7:22They were moving, but the movement
  172. 7:24wasn't physical.
  173. 7:26Renee knew they were moved by love.
  174. 7:30She was propelled by her connection to
  175. 7:33and love for God.
  176. 7:36As she approached the end of the tunnel,
  177. 7:38she wondered if she'd be alone.
  178. 7:40Instantly, her uncle Gene appeared.
  179. 7:43He had passed away about a year and a
  180. 7:45half before her.
  181. 7:47She hadn't known him well when he was
  182. 7:48alive, but their reunion was joyful.
  183. 7:52And in this world, she knew him better
  184. 7:53than she ever had,
  185. 7:55being immediately aware of things about
  186. 7:57him she'd never known.
  187. 8:00He was concerned for her mother and
  188. 8:02confused that she was there, but happy
  189. 8:04to see her.
  190. 8:06Again, she felt the pull of the light.
  191. 8:09She perceived a light past her uncle, a
  192. 8:12sea of light, sound, and unconditional
  193. 8:15love.
  194. 8:17It welcomed her.
  195. 8:20>> I was being moved through the sea of
  196. 8:22light on waves of greater and greater
  197. 8:24and increasing love.
  198. 8:27Then again, in an instant, like that, I
  199. 8:30entered the center of the sea of light,
  200. 8:33which was, to me, the essence of all
  201. 8:35essences, the source of all sources, the
  202. 8:38source of all life and all reality and
  203. 8:40existence.
  204. 8:42And with the entering into [music] this
  205. 8:45sun, I can best describe it.
  206. 8:48It was as if I had become the
  207. 8:49quintessential phoenix.
  208. 8:52The entering into this sun really became
  209. 8:54the the instant of dissolution
  210. 8:58of self, the dissolving of
  211. 9:02uh the personal and and separate uh
  212. 9:05uh
  213. 9:06>> [music]
  214. 9:06>> reality that we know to be ourselves.
  215. 9:09And this state of absolute nothingness
  216. 9:13as an individual,
  217. 9:14>> [music]
  218. 9:14>> but this was a state of being in and of,
  219. 9:18and because of the light,
  220. 9:20was, to me, uh
  221. 9:23the apex
  222. 9:24>> [music]
  223. 9:25>> of everything that I could have ever
  224. 9:26hoped for. It was really the desire of
  225. 9:29all desires.
  226. 9:31To be as nothing
  227. 9:33in this loving and [music]
  228. 9:35powerful and incredibly beautiful light.
  229. 9:40It seemed that I existed in that state
  230. 9:43in that [music] state of nothingness
  231. 9:45really for a time beyond time. And yet
  232. 9:49then again, I was gathered together as
  233. 9:51an individual.
  234. 9:53It was as if I had become
  235. 9:56sands upon a shore
  236. 9:58and I was gathered together and and put
  237. 10:00back
  238. 10:01as [music] the individual that I had
  239. 10:03always known as my own consciousness.
  240. 10:06>> The same blissful interplay between
  241. 10:09being [music] a part of the whole and
  242. 10:11being our own person was articulated by
  243. 10:13Swedenborg as well.
  244. 10:15The more closely we are united to the
  245. 10:18Lord, the more clearly we seem to have
  246. 10:21our own identity.
  247. 10:22And yet the more obvious it is to us
  248. 10:25that we belong to the Lord.
  249. 10:27Next, Renee entered her life review, a
  250. 10:31common feature of near-death
  251. 10:32experiences.
  252. 10:34She felt loved and cared for as she
  253. 10:36experienced [music]
  254. 10:37her life again, but this time from the
  255. 10:39perspective of everyone involved in each
  256. 10:42moment simultaneously.
  257. 10:44She was stunned to learn that what
  258. 10:46mattered the most were the small acts of
  259. 10:49kindness. [music]
  260. 10:51>> But the greatest of all of my actions
  261. 10:54were those that were motivated by
  262. 10:56selfless love and the greatest of all of
  263. 10:58those
  264. 10:59was as a teenager I had worked with the
  265. 11:02children every summer and I had taken
  266. 11:06aside a small a young boy who was
  267. 11:09particularly difficult
  268. 11:10>> [music]
  269. 11:10>> and and particularly
  270. 11:13obnoxious and abrasive and
  271. 11:15>> [clears throat]
  272. 11:16>> and usually rejected by the people in
  273. 11:18the camp and the children and the
  274. 11:21counselors and whatnot and I had taken
  275. 11:22him aside one hot summer day and sat him
  276. 11:25on a wall
  277. 11:26and gave him uh
  278. 11:29uh some punch and uh saying to him
  279. 11:33and I simply wanted to express to him
  280. 11:36that he was precious, that he was
  281. 11:37unique, that he was lovable by the very
  282. 11:41by his very existence. I wanted really
  283. 11:44to express
  284. 11:46>> [music]
  285. 11:46>> a sense of selfless love to this child
  286. 11:48who seemed to be uh abandoned and
  287. 11:51rejected and viewed as worthless to all.
  288. 11:55This was an action that no one
  289. 11:57recognized.
  290. 11:59It was an action that I didn't even
  291. 12:01remember
  292. 12:02until uh the near-death experience.
  293. 12:05But this was [music] to have committed
  294. 12:07such an action, to have shown love to
  295. 12:09another individual regardless of their
  296. 12:13deservingness or or their station or the
  297. 12:16recognition of of anyone in this world
  298. 12:19to show for selfless love,
  299. 12:22just an instant of selfless love in our
  300. 12:24in our lives, to have done that, to have
  301. 12:26achieved that, was greater than to have
  302. 12:29If I had had been become president of
  303. 12:31the United States or won the Nobel Peace
  304. 12:34Prize.
  305. 12:36>> Swedenborg called this reliving of our
  306. 12:38events [music] our book of life.
  307. 12:42All our deeds and all our thoughts are
  308. 12:45written on our whole person
  309. 12:47>> [music]
  310. 12:47>> and seem as though they are read from a
  311. 12:48book when they are called out of our
  312. 12:50memory.
  313. 12:52They appear in a kind of image [music]
  314. 12:53when our spirit is looked at in heaven's
  315. 12:56light.
  316. 12:57Swedenborg also placed an emphasis
  317. 12:59[music]
  318. 13:00on love. For him, this is our essential
  319. 13:03quality, the only thing that determines
  320. 13:05our eternal life. [music]
  321. 13:08We do need to recognize, though, that
  322. 13:10volition [music] makes us who we are.
  323. 13:13Love or intent is the actual person. For
  324. 13:16the things that come forth belong to the
  325. 13:18person they come forth from.
  326. 13:22Renee learned what mattered.
  327. 13:24But now she wondered, what comes next?
  328. 13:27For humanity
  329. 13:28>> [music]
  330. 13:29>> and for her."
  331. 13:39Rene pondered the destiny [music] of
  332. 13:41humanity.
  333. 13:43In response to her curiosity, she was
  334. 13:45shown the history of [music] humanity
  335. 13:48from Neanderthals to ancient Rome to the
  336. 13:51Renaissance to today.
  337. 13:53And then, they showed her the future.
  338. 13:57She was told humanity is on the
  339. 13:59precipice of our greatest evolution ever
  340. 14:02in [music] history.
  341. 14:03But, we must choose this development by
  342. 14:06choosing to establish peace,
  343. 14:08unity,
  344. 14:09>> [music]
  345. 14:09>> and harmony.
  346. 14:12The road will be difficult. She saw
  347. 14:14conflict, confusion, chaos.
  348. 14:18Humanity was in denial of its true
  349. 14:20reality,
  350. 14:21>> [music]
  351. 14:21>> its interconnectedness.
  352. 14:23She saw that the suffering caused by
  353. 14:25this denial would have consequences,
  354. 14:28much like denying gravity would.
  355. 14:30But eventually, [music]
  356. 14:31she saw humanity evolve for the better,
  357. 14:34become more united, more connected, and
  358. 14:38more [music] loving.
  359. 14:39She was shown humanity's rebirth
  360. 14:42and the divine gift that is life.
  361. 14:46And now, she would be reborn.
  362. 14:49She did not want to go back.
  363. 14:51>> [music]
  364. 14:51>> She begged to stay as she fell through
  365. 14:53the tunnel.
  366. 14:55She heard the first responders saying,
  367. 14:57"DOA, DOA."
  368. 15:00Dead on arrival.
  369. 15:02They believed her gone.
  370. 15:04She felt the devastation of her mother.
  371. 15:07She watched from above as her body was
  372. 15:09moved to the hospital, her mother
  373. 15:11following close behind.
  374. 15:14A doctor arrived to work on her, but she
  375. 15:16perceived his state and felt his
  376. 15:19disconnection.
  377. 15:21He had just been working to save people
  378. 15:22who had been in motorcycle accidents in
  379. 15:24the mountains.
  380. 15:26He was exhausted and sure that she was
  381. 15:29dead.
  382. 15:30>> [music]
  383. 15:30>> He didn't care about her or show any
  384. 15:32affection. He just sent her to the
  385. 15:34morgue.
  386. 15:36Just then, her personal physician
  387. 15:39arrived.
  388. 15:40He was a gruff country doctor. [music]
  389. 15:42Renee described him as feisty,
  390. 15:45foul-mouthed, and good-hearted.
  391. 15:47He was appalled that they had pronounced
  392. 15:49Renee dead.
  393. 15:50>> [music]
  394. 15:50>> He ordered the nurse to retrieve him
  395. 15:52adrenaline and assist him
  396. 15:54and immediately began chest compressions
  397. 15:56on Renee's body.
  398. 15:58He administered shocks to restart her
  399. 16:00heart.
  400. 16:02Eventually, [music]
  401. 16:03his treatment worked.
  402. 16:05Renee finally returned [music] to her
  403. 16:07body.
  404. 16:09>> The next morning when my personal
  405. 16:11physician came in, he was furious. He
  406. 16:14was absolutely livid. He had thought
  407. 16:16that I had
  408. 16:18had a drink [music]
  409. 16:19or something that I had taken
  410. 16:22being a foolish young teenager, I had
  411. 16:24had a beer or something after taking
  412. 16:27antihistamine and that's what it brought
  413. 16:29on this uh
  414. 16:31tremendous uh shock reaction. So, he
  415. 16:33came
  416. 16:34bursting into my room that morning and
  417. 16:36he said, "What the hell did you do to
  418. 16:38yourself?"
  419. 16:40And I said, I immediately I had been a
  420. 16:42very rather normal, timid 16-year-old
  421. 16:46[music]
  422. 16:46girl, but then I responded right back to
  423. 16:49him and said, "What the hell did you do
  424. 16:51to me? Who do you think you are?"
  425. 16:54>> [music]
  426. 16:55>> I said, "I was dead. I was dead and you
  427. 16:58brought me back. Who do you think you
  428. 17:00are to do that to me?"
  429. 17:03>> Shocked by her distressed reaction, her
  430. 17:05doctor called for a psychiatrist to come
  431. 17:08speak with her.
  432. 17:10The psychiatrist knew Renee did not want
  433. 17:12to live, but she didn't understand why.
  434. 17:16Renee realized that a full explanation
  435. 17:18was the only thing that would keep her
  436. 17:19out of the psych ward.
  437. 17:21So, she explained everything she had
  438. 17:23seen in her NDE.
  439. 17:26She told her about heaven and the love
  440. 17:28there.
  441. 17:29But, the psychiatrist was more
  442. 17:30interested in the details of what
  443. 17:31happened in the ER.
  444. 17:34Renee told her everything. The first
  445. 17:35responders, the doctors exhausted from
  446. 17:38helping motorcycle victims, her own
  447. 17:40doctor showing up and barking orders,
  448. 17:42then finally reviving her.
  449. 17:45The psychiatrist told Renee she was
  450. 17:46going to investigate the details.
  451. 17:50She returned a few hours later,
  452. 17:52pale and subdued.
  453. 17:54Everything Renee had told her was true.
  454. 17:58The details were stunning. The blonde
  455. 18:00nurse, the dark-haired nurse, the young
  456. 18:02exhausted doctor, the possibility of an
  457. 18:05adrenaline shot, all confirmed. [music]
  458. 18:08The psychiatrist was at a loss.
  459. 18:11She suggested Renee speak to someone in
  460. 18:13the clergy about what she had seen,
  461. 18:16or else never talk about it again, even
  462. 18:18with people she knew.
  463. 18:21Swedenborg would have understood why her
  464. 18:23return was so devastating.
  465. 18:25Heaven isn't a distant place that we go
  466. 18:27after death. [music]
  467. 18:28It's a state that we carry within us.
  468. 18:31And once you've felt it fully, the loss
  469. 18:34[music] is real.
  470. 18:36Heaven is within us, and people who have
  471. 18:39heaven within them come into heaven.
  472. 18:41The heaven within us is our
  473. 18:43acknowledgement of the divine and our
  474. 18:45being led by the divine.
  475. 18:50>> [music]
  476. 18:54>> Luckily, Renee Pessaro did not heed the
  477. 18:57psychiatrist's advice. She shared her
  478. 18:59story with millions in teachings and in
  479. 19:02a book she published in 2018, [music]
  480. 19:05Answers from Heaven, The Near-Death
  481. 19:07Experiences of Renee Pessaro.
  482. 19:10She recovered from her near-death
  483. 19:11illness and lived a long and happy life.
  484. 19:14She passed away at 70 years old in
  485. 19:17January of 2020. She was a wife, a mom
  486. 19:20to five children, grandmother to four
  487. 19:22more, and great-grandmother to another
  488. 19:24two.
  489. 19:25She founded and directed several
  490. 19:27charitable organizations and projects
  491. 19:29[music] and was a devout member of the
  492. 19:31Baha'i Faith and community.
  493. 19:33Renee spent her [music] life putting
  494. 19:35what she had learned into practice.
  495. 19:39Swedenborg [music] taught that the
  496. 19:40spiritual world and the natural world
  497. 19:42are united through us.
  498. 19:44We are the bridge between them.
  499. 19:46And the bridge is [music] built from
  500. 19:48love expressed in action.
  501. 19:52Our acts are services in forms to the
  502. 19:54extent that we live according to the
  503. 19:56divine design
  504. 19:58>> [music]
  505. 19:58>> in love for the Lord and in
  506. 19:59thoughtfulness toward our neighbor.
  507. 20:02It is humankind through which the
  508. 20:04natural world is united to the spiritual
  509. 20:06world. We are the means of the union.
  510. 20:10Renee is now presumably in the place she
  511. 20:13described, still the embodiment of
  512. 20:16peace, unity, and love.
  513. 20:20>> Every action
  514. 20:22that one takes is like a stone cast in
  515. 20:25the water.
  516. 20:27And if it's [music] loving,
  517. 20:28that stone, you know, is cast in the
  518. 20:31water and the loving action goes [music]
  519. 20:33out and touches the first person that
  520. 20:35it's intended for, and then it touches
  521. 20:38another person, and then it touches
  522. 20:39another person because [music] that
  523. 20:41person interacts with other people, and
  524. 20:44so on and so on. And every action has a
  525. 20:47reverberating effect upon every single
  526. 20:51one of us on the face of this planet.
  527. 20:54>> What you love and why is the only thing
  528. 20:58the universe is [music] measuring.
  529. 21:01Renee Passero spent a lifetime proving
  530. 21:04it.
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