1301 Lecture 22 Hamilton Econ Progs Part 1 — Transcript
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- 0:03hey 1301 gang
- 0:06okay we got the bill of rights passed
- 0:09constitution established bill of rights
- 0:11added to it
- 0:12now the nation has to face probably its
- 0:15most pressing
- 0:16issue the economic situation
- 0:19in 1790 the united states is 54 million
- 0:24dollars in debt
- 0:2554 million dollars i have no idea what
- 0:27that is in today's money
- 0:2940 million of that the vast majority 40
- 0:32million of it
- 0:33is owed to revolutionary war veterans
- 0:35remember we talked about
- 0:36those ious that these revolutionary war
- 0:38veterans got
- 0:39well a lot of that they haven't been
- 0:40paid yet so 40 million revolutionary war
- 0:43veterans
- 0:4411 million to foreign governments those
- 0:46foreign governments that helped the
- 0:48united states in the revolution like
- 0:49france spain holland
- 0:51et cetera and then 3 million
- 0:53miscellaneous plus
- 0:54plus the state debts are an additional
- 0:5830 million dollars the state's owed 30
- 1:00million dollars
- 1:01well alexander hamilton is given the job
- 1:04he's the secretary of the treasury
- 1:06alexander hamilton secretary of the
- 1:07treasury is given the job
- 1:10of doing something about this national
- 1:12debt
- 1:13he believed it had to be paid if the
- 1:15united states is going to have good
- 1:16credit
- 1:17you got to pay your debts all right so
- 1:22as far as the revolutionary war veterans
- 1:24hamilton believed that these people
- 1:26must be paid
- 1:29but there was a question remember
- 1:33the war ended in 1783 this is 1790
- 1:38seven years these veterans have not been
- 1:41paid
- 1:42they've been holding on to these ious in
- 1:45the meantime
- 1:46speculators have gone around to a lot of
- 1:48these veterans speculators
- 1:54offering to buy these ious
- 1:58at less than face value let's say you
- 2:00have
- 2:01uh you're a revolutionary war veteran
- 2:03you are given an
- 2:04iou for let's say 100 for your con
- 2:08for your service in the continental
- 2:09learning you've been hanging on to that
- 2:11100
- 2:12iou for a long time now
- 2:15speculator comes along and says i will
- 2:17give you 25
- 2:20cash for that iou that you have not been
- 2:24paid for
- 2:2425 cash and you've unloaded this thing
- 2:27for five six years
- 2:2825 cash is looking pretty good to you so
- 2:31a lot of these revolutionary war
- 2:33veterans
- 2:34are selling these ious
- 2:37to these speculators at less than face
- 2:39value
- 2:40they figure they're never going to get
- 2:41paid so now they have their
- 2:43cash however much it is could be 35 50
- 2:46whatever
- 2:47and the speculators of course take a big
- 2:49chance
- 2:51that someday these things might get paid
- 2:53all right so hamilton proposes to pay
- 2:55off those ious
- 2:57however little opposition arises
- 3:00main opposition is led by james madison
- 3:06madison a member of the house of
- 3:07representatives from virginia
- 3:10see hamilton proposes to pay off this 40
- 3:14million dollars
- 3:15to whoever currently holds the ious
- 3:18whoever currently holds the ious whether
- 3:20it be veteran
- 3:22or speculator madison says no
- 3:26no no whoever originally held the ious
- 3:30the veterans those are the people who
- 3:32should get paid
- 3:33so hamilton proposes whoever currently
- 3:35holds the ious
- 3:36be it veteran or speculator madison says
- 3:39no
- 3:40only the veterans should be paid even
- 3:42though they may have sold their
- 3:43their ious they should still be paid
- 3:46well all right
- 3:47eventually hamilton oh by the way
- 3:51hamilton is proposing to pay the value
- 3:53of the iou
- 3:54plus four percent interest all right
- 3:57well on this one hamilton gets his way
- 4:02hamilton gets his way whoever currently
- 4:04holds the ious
- 4:06is going to be paid so if you're one of
- 4:08those speculators
- 4:11who bought an iou for a 100 iou for 25
- 4:16you are not going to get paid 100 face
- 4:18value
- 4:19plus 4 interest 104 that's a
- 4:2279 dollar profit on your 25
- 4:25investment meanwhile the veteran who
- 4:28sold their iou for 25 dollars well i
- 4:30hope he didn't throw that 25
- 4:31away hopefully put it to good use
- 4:33because that's all he's getting
- 4:35all right now another issue
- 4:38state debts so whoever currently holds
- 4:42values they're getting paid
- 4:45state debts hamilton proposes
- 4:48the national government take over the
- 4:50state debts of 30 million dollars
- 4:54and once again madison
- 4:57has some opposition to this and this
- 4:59time he's joined by
- 5:01thomas jefferson secretary of state
- 5:03[Music]
- 5:06if you look at your book on page 298
- 5:08298.
- 5:12to 98 under sectional differences 298
- 5:18one yes
- 5:24under sexual differences hamilton's
- 5:26far-sighted proposals created a storm of
- 5:28controversy
- 5:30and because uh in part because many
- 5:32people then since did not understand the
- 5:34complexities
- 5:35james madison hamilton's close ally in
- 5:38the fight for the new constitution
- 5:39broke with him over the federal
- 5:41government assuming the state debts
- 5:43taking over the state debts
- 5:46madison was troubled that northern
- 5:47states owed far
- 5:49more than southern states four southern
- 5:52states virginia north carolina georgia
- 5:54maryland
- 5:54had already paid off most of their war
- 5:56debts the other states had not been so
- 5:59conscientious
- 6:00so so four states have paid off the bulk
- 6:03of their debts
- 6:05and madison did not think it was fair
- 6:07that those states would pay nothing off
- 6:09or
- 6:09very little should get their whole debt
- 6:12wiped out
- 6:13meanwhile those four states that had
- 6:15paid their debt well they wouldn't get
- 6:16anything
- 6:18well if you look at the next if you look
- 6:20at uh paragraph number four
- 6:23paragraph number four a thomas jefferson
- 6:25intervenes he invites hamilton and
- 6:27madison to a dinner one night
- 6:29and by the end as it says in paragraph
- 6:31four there by the end of the evening
- 6:33they have reached a famous compromise
- 6:35and first they agreed that the national
- 6:38capital will be moved from new york city
- 6:40to philadelphia for the next 10 years
- 6:42and then move to a new site to be built
- 6:44in a 10 mile square federal district
- 6:46district across stride the potomac river
- 6:49sandwiched between the slave states of
- 6:50maryland and virginia
- 6:54and in return hamilton agreed to find
- 6:56the votes in congress to approve the
- 6:57move to exchange
- 6:58in exchange for madison pledging to find
- 7:00the two votes needed to pass the debt
- 7:02assumption plan
- 7:03so this big compromise the constitution
- 7:06provides that a new national
- 7:08capital city will be built and so
- 7:10hamilton agrees
- 7:12that that national capital city will be
- 7:13built on a site along the potomac river
- 7:17kind of the unofficial border between
- 7:18north and south
- 7:20it would be taken land would be taken
- 7:22from the states of maryland and virginia
- 7:24both slave states
- 7:25and the national capital would be built
- 7:27on that land so hamilton is proposing
- 7:30to move the national capital to
- 7:31basically the middle of the country
- 7:33potomac river i said where this city
- 7:36will be built
- 7:37unofficial border between north and
- 7:39south so hamilton's proposing
- 7:41proposing we will build the national
- 7:43capital basically in the middle of the
- 7:44country
- 7:46in the middle of the original 13 states
- 7:48and in return
- 7:50madison will try to deliver the votes
- 7:55what says yeah
- 8:02and hamilton will find the votes to pass
- 8:05the debt
- 8:05so that does happen congress approves of
- 8:09the
- 8:09of the uh national government assuming
- 8:13the 30 million dollars of the state
- 8:15debts
- 8:16and those four states that have paid off
- 8:19their debt
- 8:20well they will get paid for doing that
- 8:22the four states that paid off their debt
- 8:25they will get paid for doing that
- 8:29all right
- 8:37i think that is it for the report on
- 8:39public credit
- 8:42yes that's it for the report on public
- 8:43credit so
- 8:46whoever currently owes the ius will be
- 8:47paid be a veteran or speculator
- 8:50the government the us government will
- 8:51start paying off the 11 million foreign
- 8:53governments and the 3 million
- 8:54miscellaneous
- 8:55and the national government will take
- 8:57over the debts of the states and in
- 8:58return for that
- 9:00the national capital will be moved
- 9:04to the potomac river between maryland
- 9:07and virginia
- 9:09the unofficial the potomac river being
- 9:10the unofficial border
- 9:12between north and south all right now
- 9:16so that's so that's one of hamilton's
- 9:18proposals reporting public credit
- 9:32all of hamilton's proposals are
- 9:34controversial
- 9:36this next one is the most controversial
- 9:39of hamilton's programs
- 9:50hamilton proposes creating a national
- 9:53bank a national bank to be called
- 9:57the bank of the united states
- 10:11bank of the united states the purposes
- 10:15of this bank
- 10:16be a national bank it would be a
- 10:18depository
- 10:19of government money depository one a
- 10:22depository of government money
- 10:24any money coming into the national
- 10:25government through taxes
- 10:27land sales whatever it happens to be it
- 10:29will be deposited
- 10:30into the bank of the united states
- 10:33second
- 10:34the bank will be the instrument by which
- 10:36the government pays the national debt
- 10:40the bank will be the instrument by which
- 10:41the national government pays the
- 10:42national debt
- 10:43you have one of those ious from the
- 10:45revolution you can go to the bank of the
- 10:47united states and get your money
- 10:49back in the united states will pay the
- 10:50foreign governments all right
- 10:52and the third purpose finance economic
- 10:55growth
- 10:56finance the economic growth of the
- 10:58country you want to start a business
- 11:00you want to expand an existing business
- 11:02you can go to the bank of the united
- 11:04states and get
- 11:05a loan for that well all right now
- 11:08i mentioned this is probably the most
- 11:10controversial of
- 11:13hamilton's programs madison
- 11:16and jefferson both oppose it on
- 11:18constitutional grounds
- 11:22madison and jefferson claim that the
- 11:24constitution does not
- 11:25authorize the national government to
- 11:27create such a bank of the united states
- 11:30they say look at the constitution look
- 11:33at the constitution
- 11:35nowhere is the word bank in the
- 11:38constitution
- 11:39and they are correct you read the
- 11:41constitution today
- 11:42you will not find the word bank in the
- 11:44constitution so they said no you can't
- 11:46do it
- 11:47the the constitution does not give the
- 11:49national government the authority
- 11:51to establish such a bank well and
- 11:54they're right the constitution does not
- 11:56say that however
- 11:58hamilton says well yes you won't find
- 12:00the word bank in the constitution
- 12:02but the constitution does
- 12:05does authorize the federal government to
- 12:07establish such a bank
- 12:09you grab your book go to the back to the
- 12:11constitution
- 12:16let's see page page
- 12:18[Music]
- 12:20yes page a85
- 12:24a85
- 12:35page 85 and 86
- 12:39this is article 1 section 8 of the
- 12:41constitution this is
- 12:43article 8 section 1 list the powers
- 12:46of the congress the powers of the
- 12:48congress article 1 section 8.
- 12:52and under article 1 section 8 if you
- 12:53look at the first paragraph
- 12:56look at the first paragraph there the
- 12:59congress shall have the power to land
- 13:01taxes duties imposed and exercises x
- 13:04type
- 13:04x sizes or type of tax to pay the debts
- 13:07so congress should have the power to lay
- 13:08and collect taxes
- 13:10various kinds of taxes congress shall
- 13:12have the power to pay the debt
- 13:14and provide for the general welfare all
- 13:16right
- 13:17so congress collects these taxes
- 13:21where is that money going to be
- 13:22deposited
- 13:25congress is going to pay the debt
- 13:28which government entity is going to do
- 13:30that well
- 13:31hamilton says you have to look at the
- 13:33very last paragraph
- 13:34of article 1 section 8 which is here on
- 13:37page 886
- 13:39last paragraph of article 1 section 8.
- 13:42it says congress
- 13:45congress shall have the power to make
- 13:47all laws
- 13:48which shall be necessary and proper
- 13:51for carrying into execution the
- 13:53foregoing powers
- 13:54in other words congress can make laws
- 13:57that are
- 13:58necessary and proper to carry out
- 14:02the functions of congress such as
- 14:05collecting taxes paying the debt so
- 14:07hamilton argues a bank of the united
- 14:09states
- 14:10is quote necessary and
- 14:14proper to collect taxes
- 14:18to deposit the federal money and to pay
- 14:21the debt
- 14:22yes the word bank isn't in there but
- 14:24this this is known as the necessary
- 14:26and proper clause of the constitution
- 14:29hamilton says the bank is
- 14:30necessary and proper to collect taxes
- 14:35to pay the debt to have a place to
- 14:38deposit
- 14:39the government's money okay
- 14:45hamilton and jefferson they don't like
- 14:47or excuse me
- 14:49hamilton sorry madison and jefferson
- 14:52they're not sold on it now this bank of
- 14:54the united states
- 14:55this is the first major argument
- 15:02this is the first major argument in
- 15:04strict
- 15:08versus loose interpretation of the
- 15:10constitution
- 15:12how do you interpret the constitution
- 15:14strictly if you if you interpret the
- 15:16constitution
- 15:17strictly that means the constitution
- 15:20says this
- 15:20and that's all you can do if the
- 15:22constitution does not specifically grant
- 15:24a power to the government then the
- 15:26government cannot do that power
- 15:28and that's where madison and jefferson
- 15:30are coming from
- 15:31loose interpretation is madison yeah but
- 15:33we have this necessary and proper clause
- 15:35which says the government can do
- 15:36whatever is
- 15:37necessary and proper to carry out its
- 15:39functions like collecting taxes and
- 15:41paying the debts
- 15:42and putting it into a bank of the united
- 15:44states this debate strict versus loose
- 15:46interpretation is still with us today
- 15:49and and people who believe in strict
- 15:50interpretation they say oh well we have
- 15:52to go back
- 15:53to the what the authors of the
- 15:56constitution intended
- 15:57well all right you go back to what the
- 15:59authors of the constitution intended
- 16:01madison helped write the constitution
- 16:04hamilton right
- 16:04helped write the constitution and they
- 16:06could not agree on what it said
- 16:09so i can lead 200 plus years later say
- 16:12well we know that
- 16:14no all right okay well eventually the
- 16:17bank of the united states passes
- 16:18congress
- 16:20and it goes to president washington for
- 16:22his signature you remember under the
- 16:23constitution the president has to
- 16:24approve laws
- 16:27washington is leaning towards vetoing
- 16:30the bank because right now he's leaning
- 16:32towards madison and jefferson
- 16:36unless the constitution specifically
- 16:37says you can do it then you can't do it
- 16:40strict interpretation however he has
- 16:43both sides write an essay
- 16:47defending their position hamilton writes
- 16:49his very long
- 16:50very eloquent essay in defense of his
- 16:54loose interpretation of his necessary
- 16:56improper
- 16:57i've tried to read it i couldn't
- 17:00you ever get insomnia some night read
- 17:02hamilton's defense of the bank of the
- 17:04united states you'll get through like
- 17:05two sentences and you'll go to sleep
- 17:08but it was very eloquent washington read
- 17:10it
- 17:11he was swayed by hamilton's argument and
- 17:14the bank
- 17:15and he signed the law establishing the
- 17:18bank
- 17:18of the united states so it became law
- 17:22in 1791
- 17:25it had a charter to run for 20 years
- 17:28this bank is going to continue to be
- 17:30controversial
- 17:31in american history all right
- 17:35okay but it does pass congress and
- 17:38washington ultimately signs it into law
- 17:41loose versus strict interpretation of
- 17:42the constitution
- 17:44still a controversy voice today
- 17:47all right hamilton's third report
- 17:51third program
- 17:56is his report on manufacturing
- 18:00report on manufacturing
- 18:26sorry
- 18:28now i'm gonna bring this take this one
- 18:30up next time
- 18:31so all right i'm gonna take this one up
- 18:34next time so we'll see you there
- 18:35all right
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