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0:00You're on the back. You're on the black
0:01top. Or gravel, whatever you have. The
0:03new shop in the museum.
0:05>> Right. It's all gravel.
0:06>> Yeah, with the awning.
0:08>> That'll have a fence around it. Because
0:10it's going to be a parking lot that
0:12until we get it paved.
0:14You know, it's
0:15it's a National Historical Society
0:18Museum.
0:18>> Yeah, cuz I see that neighbors across
0:20the street is always parking.
0:21>> But they're also very nice people and
0:23they watch the property.
0:26So, well, you got to even park it, but
0:27if you keep it around, you get people
0:29starting to
0:32>> All right. We'll
0:34We'll call this meeting to order.
0:36Um I know Mr. Rubio's on it. It Does
0:39Does it would it buy you if I take over,
0:41Mr. Rubio?
0:45>> That's fine. Go ahead. Thank you.
0:48>> All right. So, um
0:50we'll do a roll call, Miranda.
0:53>> Amy.
0:55On Zoom.
0:56Sherry.
0:57>> Here.
0:59>> Carla.
1:01I didn't receive an email, so I'll mark
1:04that as unexcused. Mike.
1:07>> Here.
1:08>> Laura.
1:11>> Laura.
1:12>> She's
1:13>> I'm here. Can you guys hear me?
1:14>> Yeah.
1:15>> Yeah.
1:15>> Thank you.
1:17>> Jayla.
1:18>> I'm here.
1:19>> Brenda.
1:20>> Here.
1:23>> Chavez.
1:24>> Right here.
1:25>> I am present. Hector.
1:28>> Here.
1:29>> And we also have Tom Dolan and Vanessa
1:31for the record.
1:32>> Hi, everybody.
1:35>> Hi.
1:38>> All right. The active agenda, update
1:40about the park's shade. So, um just to
1:44give you guys an update,
1:46um speaking with Mr. Dolan and he's been
1:47speaking through his
1:49uh engineer. The poles aren't going to
1:51work for what we would like them to be
1:54designed for for the shades.
1:55But, with that being said, the rotary
1:58has
2:00200
2:01and some thousand dollars that they're
2:03willing to help out and put up for shade
2:07for all the parks
2:09um
2:10on their behalf.
2:11So, right now the four parks are
2:14Upland Park,
2:15South Hill Park,
2:17um Kiwanis, and
2:21Oh, what?
2:23Oh, it's
2:23>> Tenenieu?
2:24>> Not Tenenieu. Uh the one closer to Mr.
2:27>> Don Hughes?
2:28>> Yeah. The one closer to uh
2:30>> Don Hughes?
2:30>> Don. Don Hughes.
2:31>> Don Hughes?
2:32>> Don Hughes.
2:33Park.
2:34So, uh I might talk to them and see if
2:38they're willing to do Central Park, cuz
2:41I know that one gets used a lot and both
2:43would there in the summer time with the
2:44pool.
2:46In my In my opinion, that would be the
2:48most logical place for it.
2:50>> Which Rotary is this?
2:51>> That's the most usable.
2:52>> Which Rotary?
2:53>> Excuse me?
2:54>> Which Rotary?
2:55>> Uh Daytime Rotary.
2:57>> Daybreak?
2:58>> Daybreak.
2:59>> Daybreak?
2:59>> Yes.
3:00>> So, then you they chose the downtown
3:03first?
3:03>> Well, they they chose Upland first.
3:06We'll get We'll get Upland going.
3:07>> First?
3:08>> First. Then we'll work on
3:10um
3:11I'm going to see if there's any other
3:13South Hills.
3:14I'll take care of that one. Um and then
3:16I like Like I said, I want to speak to
3:17them and see if they're willing to do um
3:21Central.
3:22>> And then we Don't do the last
3:23>> And leave Leave Don I mean, not to be
3:25the one up in the Kiwanis.
3:28>> Well, there's a lot more business
3:31at Kiwanis than there is at Don Hughes.
3:34>> But I I I And I
3:35>> Depends on the time of the year.
3:37>> Yeah.
3:38So,
3:38>> It's
3:39uh Kiwanis is the one on North Upland.
3:41>> Mhm.
3:41>> And um Don Hughes
3:43>> is on Lincoln Avenue.
3:46>> So, because right now they want to do
3:48Don Hughes and Kiwanis and leave and not
3:51do Central.
3:52>> Oh, we need Central.
3:53>> Yeah.
3:54>> So, that's that's that's going to be my
3:56suggestion to them.
3:58Um if the committee wants something
3:59different,
4:01then I can I take your your
4:04your opinion. But I In my opinion, I
4:06believe Central is the one that needed
4:07it the most, especially during the
4:09summertime.
4:10So, instead of instead of Don Hugh's.
4:13So.
4:14>> And then also Kuanz has a gazebo already
4:17there with a top eating protein for
4:20covers.
4:20>> Well, I mean, then we can do Don Hugh's
4:22and leave Kuanz out.
4:23>> Well, but they don't have
4:25they don't have a cover over the
4:26playground. They have a cover
4:28with tables and
4:29>> doesn't have a cover. Don Hugh's doesn't
4:31>> Yeah.
4:31Okay.
4:32>> I would put it
4:33>> Don Hugh's again?
4:34>> Excuse me?
4:35>> Which one is Don Hugh's?
4:37>> Don Hugh's is over here off of Don
4:39Hugh's is um
4:41off Lincoln.
4:42>> Just before Les Schwab's.
4:43>> By by Les Schwab.
4:45>> Okay. Um yeah, I mean, I I'm kind of
4:48with Hector's logic. I think Central
4:50Park should have a greater priority over
4:52the over that one cuz I noticed Don
4:54Hugh's it it seems like the gist of the
4:56people using that are for the basketball
4:58court. And we have a lot of little ones
5:00actually going to Central Park. And I've
5:02sat there and seen them go like get
5:04turned away because there is no shade.
5:06So, I'm kind of with Hector on that one.
5:09I think that Central kind of has a
5:11little more urgency than per-perhaps the
5:14Don Hugh's for now.
5:16>> But like I said, if the committee wants
5:18something different
5:19>> I think we're good.
5:19>> Yeah.
5:20>> Yeah.
5:20>> I agree with Central.
5:22>> Okay. You want to come take a vote on
5:23it?
5:24>> Yeah.
5:25>> So,
5:26>> the main off which one so
5:27>> So, okay.
5:28Um
5:29to be correct and
5:33I
5:36>> And I don't think we can vote or make a
5:38motion since we
5:40>> I I I think it's more of just kind of
5:42seeing what everybody thinks. Just
5:44so much of a vote. It's more of what do
5:45you guys think? Cuz cuz somebody might
5:47have a different
5:47>> So, so my opinion is
5:50Noble Park
5:51South South No. Central Park, South Hill
5:54Park
5:55Central Park
5:57and Kuanz. Those are my four.
6:00>> And Leavitt, which one is that?
6:01>> Leavitt, Don Hugh's.
6:03>> I agree,
6:04>> I agree with that.
6:06>> Anybody that doesn't disagree?
6:10>> I agree. It's just It would have
6:12Daybreak really wants
6:14something else.
6:15>> That's why I put one there.
6:19>> So,
6:20So, like I said, I'm
6:22I'm willing to go talk to them. I'll
6:23I'll talk to Mr. Haley and and then that
6:25way I can go and present
6:27um my reasoning on why Central Park
6:30should be instead of Downey Park.
6:33Park.
6:34Okay.
6:35So,
6:36that's that. Park budget, I know Mr.
6:39uh Councilman uh uh
6:42Chavez was been asking for this. So, we
6:45have I have printed out and I have been
6:47at the year.
6:49Um
6:50you know,
6:51I printed out all the income coming in
6:54and on
6:57>> Hector, are you with the email us that?
7:01>> Uh
7:02I think Miranda was going to try to
7:05share it on.
7:08And then I can definitely email you
7:09guys.
7:11>> Okay, thank you.
7:12>> Mhm.
7:12>> I think it's loading, so that way I can
7:15Okay, there you go. I can see it.
7:16>> Okay.
7:17If you want me to go to this page right
7:18here. That is
7:21Everybody should have this page on it in
7:23there. Page number
7:25uh didn't really give me page numbers.
7:27Sorry.
7:28>> Is that page five?
7:30>> Mhm. I guess
7:32>> Upper
7:32>> That would be right.
7:33>> Upper right.
7:35>> Right.
7:35>> Upper right.
7:36>> Upper right.
7:37>> This time
7:39>> Oh, no, this one doesn't have one.
7:40>> No, it's towards the end.
7:41>> Yeah. Like the back It should be after
7:44page 10 and before page two.
7:49>> First the back, then the first side.
7:51>> All right, here.
7:53So,
7:53>> Where's the payroll?
7:55>> Yep. So, page 10 on payroll and then
7:58page two. Yep.
7:59>> So, it's this one right here.
8:02>> Yes. There we go.
8:05Did everybody get
8:11Okay.
8:12So, and if you guys see this,
8:15um 2024
8:18uh
8:20total revenue
8:22was
8:25almost 66,624.56.
8:30Okay.
8:31Uh
8:312025
8:34was
8:3536,372.46.
8:40Total
8:41outgoing
8:43in 2024 was 330,591.71.
8:48In 2025, 204,013.19.
8:56>> I remember that we had talked about and
8:58there was some money that was allocated
9:00wrong to
9:02to this. Can you guys let us know what
9:03money was allocated wrong?
9:05>> So, what I have been looking into
9:08is there are
9:12the ARPA money
9:14was supposed to be used for some of the
9:17some of the
9:18uh
9:19repairs that were supposed to get done,
9:20you know what I mean?
9:21Um
9:23unfortunately, that money did not
9:26get done out of the ARPA. It was taken
9:28out of the funding.
9:31Okay?
9:32Um
9:34So,
9:36that that was the pump. That was
9:39I believe
9:42um the paint job that was there
9:44for it. The $70,000.
9:46>> That was the paint that that was the
9:48bathhouse.
9:49>> That was the bathhouse.
9:50>> But you guys got charged $70,000.
9:52>> Yes. 69,800 7.20.
9:55Yeah, on the next page.
9:56>> Yep.
9:57>> I was also told that we had three
10:00um bids for that. Did we have the
10:02>> And that I I looked back and I could not
10:05find anything.
10:06>> I think that I To the truth, I think the
10:10person that was in charge of parking
10:11wrecks just shows that person. That's
10:14That's illegal. I I believe I mean, if
10:16he can't find the head of bids, then
10:18that's what tells us.
10:20>> That's illegal.
10:21>> And that's back but that's back in 2024.
10:23>> Yeah. I can't I can't go do that.
10:26>> Who did that one?
10:27>> It was approved um
10:30They
10:30They brought it to the committee. I
10:32remember cuz we were sitting there in in
10:33the committee center in the committee
10:35center in the hallway and we talked
10:37about it and she had three different
10:39people and she went with the one that
10:41did the lowest bid.
10:43>> That was the lowest bid?
10:44>> Because
10:46whatever
10:48is what I
10:49It was the
10:49>> If I remember right, we They showed us a
10:52bid for the playgrounds. I don't
10:55remember seeing the bid
10:57>> That was a That was a different one.
10:59That was a different meeting.
11:01>> For the painting, I just remember them
11:03telling us that this was the person they
11:05were going with.
11:07>> And then they showed us the colors and I
11:10guess
11:11only two or three people chose the
11:13colors.
11:14And
11:14>> Because we got invited to go down and go
11:17check out the pool, what all needed to
11:19be painted, where we were going to be
11:21painting it, and I remember being told
11:24that we had to go with the contractors
11:27that the city
11:29had already approved.
11:31>> Then it then that's not approved. That's
11:33on our small work process. Okay? If
11:36they're already on our small work
11:37process, then we have to go There's a
11:39certain threshold we have to go They
11:41have to go on that one.
11:43Okay? Had it been more, then we would go
11:45to The next step would be an envelope
11:48bid.
11:49And then after that, it's the silent bid
11:52so we do
11:53you know, come to a a meeting and then
11:56we open them all up with everybody
11:58Everybody has to have the same RFQ.
12:00>> So that money, $70,000, was taken out of
12:04the general fund also or was it used
12:06with the art?
12:06>> No, that would be the general fund.
12:09>> So see, that one shouldn't have been.
12:11And then the pump should have been.
12:13>> I understand.
12:14>> So now we have this figure and the
12:16general public are going to say
12:18how can this be so so high to run this?
12:23So really basically what we've got here
12:25doesn't
12:26isn't the right way and we what are we
12:29doing? Are we finding out where all this
12:32>> We I am working on working on with
12:34Jessica and Vanessa on how we can make
12:37sure that we allocate the money
12:38correctly.
12:39Um I am having got to 2026
12:42um
12:43uh
12:44up to date
12:45uh
12:46allocation expenses.
12:48But we also have to understand back then
12:512024 2025 we had 22 part-time employees.
12:56I don't I cut back to
12:58I think I only had 14.
13:01So I cut back on that. I am seeing where
13:03I can cut back and where I can get some
13:06more. So I am doing where I am doing the
13:09best I can to make sure that we are not
13:11over expending our expenditures.
13:14>> So the money that you guys are looking
13:16for
13:17>> There there's no money we're looking
13:18for.
13:19We know where it We know where it went.
13:21>> Okay.
13:21>> We there's and I can't go back to
13:24what 2024 did 2025. That's That's been
13:29uh audited did whatever they needed to
13:31do. It's closed.
13:32>> But it comes to this big figure then.
13:34>> It does come to that big figure and
13:36that's and that and that's what I have
13:37to work with.
13:39So
13:40like I said I am doing everything I can
13:42to see where I can make it
13:45open. We all know that the pool
13:48is
13:50it's a great thing to have. It really
13:52is. I'm not going to deny it. The kids
13:54love it. When we get kids in there. Can
13:56I promote it more? Yes, I absolutely can
13:58and I plan to do it coming this summer.
14:01You know, I'm going to promote more.
14:02Working with Lisa, you know, I'm not
14:04going to hire a manager. She's going to
14:06be the manager, you know, and this is
14:08going to be part of her other job task.
14:11So there's no compensation or anything
14:13like that.
14:15Um
14:16I have Sandra over there, too, so she
14:17she's going to be helping out, learning
14:19the the ropes and the back. Um
14:22So, that's that's the way we're going
14:23with that. So, we don't have to pay for
14:25a manager,
14:26but we will
14:29think about and it's a question I'll put
14:31I have to bring up to Jessica and
14:33obviously the committee is getting a
14:34couple leads. Um because I do need
14:36somebody there to Vanessa uh sorry, Lisa
14:40and Sandra cannot stay there 24/7.
14:44There are some people I'm going to have
14:45to try to trust.
14:46And that's the biggest thing.
14:48So, we are Lisa and I are already in
14:51talks. We're working on how we can
14:53better this
14:54um
14:57adventure. Cuz it is going to be an
14:58adventure for a little bit.
15:00You know,
15:01um
15:03I wish these statements weren't true,
15:05but they're there.
15:06>> Right.
15:07>> And and there's nothing I can't I can't
15:08go to the past. I have to work with what
15:10I have in the future.
15:11>> Right.
15:11>> Um there are some stuff, you know, we
15:14have that hopefully $500,000 that I'm
15:16getting so I can update the pool. You
15:19know, it needs a good paint job.
15:20>> Sure.
15:21>> needs new caulking in it. I understand
15:23the pool house is something that
15:24everybody wants, but as of right now,
15:27that's not my priority. My priority is
15:29the pool itself.
15:30I know I need to get the pool repainted
15:32in the inside. I need to get a recaulk
15:35because, you know, as talking to my
15:38Mitch,
15:39it there's a lot of cracks in it. So, I
15:41need to get those repaired. Cuz we're
15:43losing a lot of water going out those
15:44cracks.
15:45>> So, we still have funding already.
15:47>> We still have funding.
15:48>> And that's how much?
15:49>> $500,000.
15:50>> $500,000. And then you just picked up
15:53another grant?
15:54>> I picked up another grant.
15:55>> And that's how much?
15:56>> That's $124,000, but that is for South
15:58Hill Park.
16:00>> So, it can only specifically
16:02>> only be for South Hill Park.
16:03>> So,
16:04you went out excuse me, you went out for
16:05that grant for only South Hill Park. You
16:07didn't go for
16:08>> I haven't gone anything out for the park
16:10or central. Okay?
16:12Um
16:12and I am going to go out for another one
16:14for Sunny Gates.
16:15Okay? We're we're thinking of using the
16:18Tina Nogales Park money and putting it
16:21at the Sunny Glen Park to update the the
16:24bathrooms, put soccer fields over there
16:26because that is a place that gets used
16:27quite a bit for soccer. And and it's
16:30it's something that's been out there
16:32that a lot of people like to use.
16:34>> Question really quick, I'm sorry. Are
16:36you renting it out for the soccer
16:38fields?
16:38>> We are renting it out. Yes.
16:40>> Okay.
16:40>> We we we make sure they have their
16:42insurance. We make sure that they do an
16:45event and
16:47an application for the park. Uh anything
16:50that they have to do over there, all the
16:52mobile vendors that they have, they have
16:53to have a mobile vendor license and we
16:55make sure they get come in and sign pick
16:57up one of those.
16:58So, we're doing stuff in the correctly.
17:01It's just we understand, you know, it
17:04it's going to take us time to to dig
17:06this out.
17:06>> Because one thing that I'm looking at
17:07during that is the restrooms are not
17:11suitable during the big tournaments that
17:13they're having.
17:13>> And that's why
17:14>> It's it's really bad.
17:15>> And and that's why I'm moving instead of
17:18the Tina Nogales because I know that
17:20park was supposed to get a new bathroom,
17:23get in
17:25It's it's not even flat. I'd have to
17:26bring in dirt to bring it up. Um
17:30Is it going to be used?
17:32>> Yeah.
17:33>> You know, that's the other thing.
17:34>> It will be used if it was a soccer
17:36field.
17:36>> Even even with the PD there, I hear it's
17:38not because it's only it's next to the
17:40PD. You know, not not you know, it's the
17:43true thing. A lot of people don't like
17:45going where there's police cars. So,
17:47realistically, is that a a choice for us
17:50to do right now?
17:51In my opinion, no. But if the group
17:54decides differently, then I I'm willing
17:56to go with the group. You know, and
17:58that's why I am working towards getting
18:00all of you to Sunny Glen Park because
18:02that we know that park gets used quite a
18:04bit.
18:05You know, and it's taking me time.
18:07Um and you know, Jessica, Vanessa, even
18:11Miranda, and I have been working out
18:13there to make sure that we're all on the
18:14same track, all on the same path that
18:16way. So, you you Capital of the Parks
18:19has been really good to me. They're
18:20working out with me on another RCO grant
18:22that I'm I'm trying to get
18:24get these, you know, parks up to par. We
18:26know that we have parks that are not in
18:29you know, updated.
18:31Um is we just got to understand it's
18:33going to take time. I you know, because
18:37everybody knows
18:39everybody loves a park
18:41but it doesn't generate as very much
18:42money either.
18:44So, you know, that's that's where the
18:45grants come in. That's where, you know,
18:49a lot of people help me out.
18:50>> But are we going to have any saying
18:52grants or anything that you're still
18:54going to push?
18:55Cuz those restrooms at Central Park
18:58and the bath houses
19:00are
19:01well, we went through they're
19:02disgusting.
19:03>> I I understand.
19:04>> How you going to How you open up a park
19:07with a swimming
19:08with those bathrooms the way they look?
19:10They're disgusting.
19:11>> No, I understand. But again
19:14priority. I have to have priority. Are
19:17we willing to get the cracks bigger in
19:19the pool
19:20or are we wanting to put money into the
19:22bath house?
19:22>> Well, no. I I'm just saying is that is
19:25if you're
19:26trying to move money
19:28towards
19:30the county park
19:32then
19:32>> That's from a different grant.
19:34>> So, that grant is a different grant for
19:36that.
19:36>> different grant.
19:37>> Well, we need to figure figure out
19:39somehow some way to do something with
19:41those bath houses and bathrooms.
19:43>> And I'm working on it. It's and it's
19:44like I say, it takes time. It's nothing
19:47I can step I figure through and and get
19:49it the next day. You know, the
19:51application is very long and it is
19:54very strenuous because there's different
19:57avenues that I have to go through.
20:00Um and then remember I I'm only one city
20:03that's competing against
20:05thousands and hundred of thousands of
20:07cities that are going in for
20:08>> And if you don't word it right, you
20:09ain't getting nothing.
20:10>> Correct.
20:11>> Quick question. I believe we have
20:12somebody that's working on grants. Who's
20:13running Who's running the grants what
20:15grants?
20:15>> So, I have Capital Packs has been
20:17helping me
20:18um to write these grants.
20:20Um and my fellow if
20:22>> know we pay them a pretty penny for
20:23that.
20:23>> Yeah.
20:24>> So, they've been helping me,
20:26uh
20:27uh Miss Alberts has been helping me
20:29tremendously with it. And so has Miss,
20:32uh Carbone.
20:33The Capital Path.
20:35So, we've been working very hard on
20:37those and diligently getting them in.
20:39Um, we had one that was due to October
20:4030th, and I was to the last minute, and
20:44we made sure we got it in.
20:45>> Cuz I know I remember asking Pat for
20:48um for the list of the grants that we're
20:50working on. I still haven't received
20:51them, either.
20:52>> Yeah, I can get you those.
20:54I I I
20:55I'll get you those soon.
20:59>> Do I remember years ago we used to have
21:02For all my grants, or yeah. All All my
21:04grants.
21:04>> I want to see a breakdown of the grants.
21:07Because I want to see if it's I mean if
21:08are we are we good with an investment
21:10and somebody doing the grants? And what
21:12is our return for that? For me?
21:14>> Mhm.
21:14>> Um
21:16I know that, um I I am I was talking
21:18with, um
21:19with another council member, and they're
21:22in prosperous, they're working on
21:23grants, and I mean, they're making
21:25they're making some really good money
21:26with that, but
21:28are we feasible with it? Are we if we're
21:30putting all this money into grant
21:31writing, but we're not getting the
21:32return. That's kind of what I'm looking
21:34at.
21:35>> Mhm.
21:35>> So, yeah, I want to get a list of them
21:37and send them.
21:37>> Okay. I will
21:39see what I can dig up on all my grants.
21:42So,
21:44that's where I'm at with everything.
21:45Like I said, I brought all these numbers
21:46to you.
21:47Um, obviously, as you can tell on this
21:50first page here,
21:51uh the telephone one,
21:53uh
21:55these are all everything that we made.
21:58Um, activity swimming pool fee, let's go
22:01back to the topic. So, 2020 August, is
22:04this 2026?
22:06Uh 2026,
22:08uh pool administration 4 to 12,
22:11uh year-to-date, we only made 9,441.
22:15Pool administration for 13 and over, we
22:19made 12,461 dollars.
22:23Oh, no, no, that's this.
22:24>> Yeah, I'm just looking at this.
22:25>> Yeah, I'm sorry.
22:25>> I'm looking at see
22:26>> Yeah. You know how I big numbers
22:29race flag for me and this is one of the
22:32reason why I question this because we
22:34have 25,000 on one and then we have one
22:37one year and this is the one that I was
22:39looking at then we have 712 from 2025.
22:43So when we have 712 and these these
22:45numbers are
22:46huge difference 25,000 difference. This
22:49is one of the one of the reasons I
22:50question it so I'm going through kind of
22:53looking at that.
22:54This is another one. You got 30,000
22:57and you got 4,000.
22:59So what you're saying and then these
23:00numbers are pretty much matched and then
23:02you have a 60,000
23:04and then you have a 15.
23:05>> I had the same questions as Mr. Chavez
23:08cuz I did did tell Hector before that
23:11those were really big jumps of numbers
23:15that way I wanted to see what the 2026
23:18and also Jayla has asked if she can be
23:20excused at 5:00 for basketball practice.
23:25>> Yes Jayla, thank you.
23:27>> Thank you. Thank you. Thank you guys.
23:29Have a good rest of your evening.
23:30>> This was out of office and operating
23:32supplies.
23:33So
23:34That's 2024 though, right?
23:36>> The 25,001 is recreation program fees in
23:392024 that's when there was still a
23:42summer camp going on at the community
23:44center. So when people would pay their
23:45dues that's where we would charge it but
23:48in 2025 I don't believe there was much
23:50going on based out of the community
23:53center. So 2024 we still had summer camp
23:562025 we did not. So that's why there was
23:58a big drop from 25,000 to only 712.
24:06>> So we spent 60,000 for operational?
24:09>> Yeah. So
24:12learning now what happened back then
24:15everybody put everything under office
24:17and operating supplies.
24:19And it wasn't supposed to go under off
24:21office and operating supplies. Okay. As
24:23we know office and operating supplies
24:25are for paper
24:27the paper clips, pens, stuff like that.
24:30Not for any material repairs that got
24:33done. That should have gone under repair
24:35and maintenance.
24:36As you can tell,
24:39that's why this number was high and this
24:41number started going low because in 2025
24:44is when they started allocating them
24:47somewhat and not just putting it all
24:49into office and operating.
24:51>> But if you if you still look at the the
24:53repairs and maintenance, you still have
24:55a 75,000
24:57charge here and then you have a 12,000
25:00difference.
25:00>> The 70 70 69,000 was just the paint.
25:04>> That was where the paints at?
25:05>> Yep.
25:08And then this is where we didn't paint
25:09the building.
25:11>> Well,
25:12>> Yeah.
25:14>> See,
25:15the reason I bring this up is
25:17we go in and we show it to, you know,
25:19somebody does a public records and looks
25:21at this, it's going to it's going to
25:22cause chaos. And they're like, "What did
25:23they" And and and when I look at numbers
25:26like this, it raise red flags for me
25:27because the committee member comes and
25:29asks me, "Why did we put this money here
25:31and not" In fact, I had somebody ask me
25:32about it. And I said, "Well, I'll look
25:34into it." And then when I look at it,
25:35now I know why they asked the question
25:37because I mean, I'm looking at it myself
25:39and I'm like, "I know why you asked the
25:40question. These numbers just don't add
25:41up."
25:42>> Well, I understand.
25:43>> And when this is a red flag for our 26,
25:4627 and on,
25:47>> Correct.
25:48>> then all of a sudden we're going to
25:48start having some issues.
25:50>> What
25:50>> And that's why we're trying to make sure
25:51that we allocate the money where it
25:53needs to be.
25:53>> Correct.
25:54>> Because what happens, we're going to
25:55start taking money out of the general
25:56fund thing and that's going to cause an
25:58issue.
25:58>> Well, all this comes out of general
26:00fund.
26:01>> But we have some that's from the L-Tech,
26:03right?
26:03>> No.
26:03>> No? Okay.
26:04>> No, nothing nothing comes out of L-Tech.
26:10Okay. So, moving forward, that's why I'm
26:13working hard with Finessa and and just
26:15going to make sure
26:17where we spend the money is getting
26:20allocated correctly.
26:21Cuz like I said, my office and operate
26:25operating office and operating supplies
26:27should not be high. I I have anybody
26:29over there at the community
26:31The only time that I should have
26:33anything is if my janitorial staff needs
26:36cleaning supplies.
26:37>> Yeah.
26:37>> Okay? Or the pool once it's open.
26:40But that that should not be. Repair and
26:42maintenance.
26:43Whatever happens at the community center
26:45should come out of that one out of
26:47repair and maintenance. So,
26:49whatever that's broken over there at the
26:51community center is what's coming out of
26:53there. Pool, same thing.
26:54>> We just need to make sure that our
26:56finance director is allocating everyone
26:59is allocating the money where it
27:01actually belongs because in 2024, the
27:05that finance director took the senior
27:07center
27:08and said, "I spent over $17,000."
27:12I had to get my paperwork out and prove
27:15to the council that I've got
27:17Deputy blah blah at that time come in
27:20and I had them prove to him because it's
27:22all volunteerism over there. Even this
27:24past year on the budget, someone put in
27:27there that we had employees. There's no
27:29employees there. I've been volunteering
27:32for 11 years. It's me, you know, I do 40
27:35hours or more sometimes.
27:37But
27:38I don't get no repay other than a thank
27:40you from the seniors and knowing that,
27:42you know, they're there and they're able
27:44to come in and do what they need to do.
27:46You know.
27:47>> And that's what I my thing is just to
27:49moving forward, I think we just need
27:50need to make sure
27:51>> No, and and that's and then we are. We
27:53are like I said, you know, I know
27:56in the past the past.
27:57>> Yeah.
27:57>> We can't fix the past, but we can fix
27:59from here on through.
28:00>> Yeah.
28:01>> And that's
28:02my thing to you guys, my commitment is
28:05to make sure that moving forward we are
28:07doing it correctly and that, you know,
28:09I'm doing the as much as I can to make
28:11sure that our parks are are up to up to
28:14date and safe for all the children.
28:17And there are parks for children,
28:19you know?
28:20So,
28:21um
28:22like I said, you have all of 2026 here.
28:25Um the what came in,
28:27we had the recreation fees. Obviously,
28:29we only made 1884.
28:33Swim lessons, we did make a lot this
28:35year because the the school the school
28:38helped us pay that a lot with their
28:39grants. So, we made $10,440. So, are we
28:44going to put swim lessons back into
28:46without the school? And that's something
28:48I have to
28:50think about and discuss. Is the ratio of
28:53advantage to disadvantage?
28:55Okay, because
28:57it it doesn't take a lot but it does at
28:59the same time.
29:00And then to find out how many people are
29:02actually going to sign up. With that
29:04with that being case, the school had the
29:06program to make it to make it
29:08successful. You know, that was one of
29:10their
29:12you know, good thing that towards the
29:13end you're going to get this as a reward
29:16to make these kids go.
29:18I I know a lot of people are asking for
29:22swim lessons.
29:25But then I looked at the granny's and
29:27granny didn't have nothing.
29:29And they they were they were saying,
29:31"Hey, we're going to do swim lessons."
29:32And
29:34they didn't show up.
29:36And you know,
29:37that makes it hard. And then I have
29:39those and I'm paying out the lifeguards
29:41for being there.
29:42So, that's why I have to really take a
29:44hard look.
29:45Is it going to be the ratio? Is it going
29:47to be good for us or is it going to be
29:48bad for us? Is it going to be put us in
29:50a deeper hole? Those are the those are
29:52the questions I have to ask myself.
29:54>> And through the school they get rides.
29:56So, that probably helped out a lot for
29:58parents to
30:01went from cuz I know there's a lot of
30:03parents that want to put their kid in
30:04swim lessons but they're at work. But
30:06through this program I know a lot of
30:08kids were able to go.
30:11>> So, those are the those are the things
30:13that I have to really think about.
30:14>> But what about the what what did the
30:17money go
30:19from and they pushed that this year?
30:20>> Donut?
30:21>> Donut?
30:22>> Do you know where it went? That was
30:24supposed to be done also like in a
30:27a funding.
30:29>> I I don't know. I know that that that
30:31one's out of
30:32but I'm not sure where it came out of.
30:34>> Are you going to talk?
30:35>> They will number you.
30:40>> And then, this is going to have their
30:43summer program again
30:44at least for 2 more years.
30:46>> 2 years or fiscal?
30:47>> It's going to have a summer program the
30:49same as last
30:50>> So, I don't even know if they get the
30:51grant.
30:53>> Oh,
30:54okay. I'll double-check, but I remember
30:55hearing that they said they had it for 2
30:57more years.
30:57>> So, so one thing is that I don't even
31:00know if it's going to be feasible to
31:01have the swim
31:03lessons if the school's going to already
31:04provide a lot of that for the kids.
31:07>> Well, that's and that's that's the
31:08that's the only reason I did the swim
31:10lessons is because it was for the kids.
31:12I didn't put it out to the public. I
31:14just put it for the school. That was the
31:16only thing That was the
31:18nice thing is that I knew they were
31:20going to be there. They were they were
31:23Johnny-on-the-spot.
31:24And I knew we were going to generate the
31:25money for that.
31:27So, that's where, like I said, I have to
31:30talk to the school.
31:31See if that's something they're willing
31:32to do again. And
31:35then, we can go from there, move
31:36forward.
31:38So,
31:39uh
31:41Like I said,
31:43community event, administration numbers
31:45nothing. People in my office we don't
31:47get nothing.
31:49Another one was the lap pool swims.
31:52Um
31:55There again, it's one of those things
31:56that
31:57is it feasible for us to do?
32:00You know, is there a lot of people that
32:01like to do lap pools? I know I don't
32:04commit when Mr. Eddie came on board, he
32:06was something that he really liked and I
32:07was thinking about it. Um
32:11And it was just going to be him.
32:14To be in the lap pool or him and one
32:16other person.
32:18I I'm been losing that money so much to
32:21have
32:22six lifeguards there for two people.
32:25>> Okay, you have the swim lessons
32:28you know, the pool's so big. Have the
32:30swim lessons and then at the same time
32:33have dedicate two lanes for
32:36>> lap pool
32:37>> the lap pool
32:37>> They use the whole pool.
32:39>> They use the whole pool for me.
32:41Um East to west.
32:43>> How can they use the whole pool?
32:44>> Because they have different grades that
32:46go in.
32:47>> Kindergarten
32:48>> I know. I had actually first through
32:50eighth. I didn't I didn't We didn't do
32:52kindergarten. We did first through
32:54eighth.
32:55And that was the whole pool.
32:57They were spread out.
32:58>> one time?
32:58>> Yes.
33:00>> Cuz I was just thinking, you know, cuz
33:01the way it is, you know, cuz you like
33:03Mike was saying, take just one lane
33:05dedicated for that swimming, maybe two,
33:08and then put the swim lessons all the
33:10way around it, you know.
33:11>> I understand, but I can't put them in
33:13the deep end until they are more
33:15proficient.
33:16Even though they're eighth graders,
33:18we don't know what their
33:19>> know.
33:20>> what their training is on swimming.
33:23So, I try to keep them closer to where
33:27they can touch during that. So, that's
33:29why I said it takes takes the whole
33:30pool.
33:32So,
33:34and like I said, I'm going to I'm going
33:35to work with the school.
33:37And we can see if if, you know, if this
33:40program is going to help, you know, be a
33:42part of it, you know. I'll, I'll, I'll
33:43contact through her and see if we, if
33:45it's going to be something feasible that
33:46they're going to want to do and we can
33:48redo it.
33:49>> What time does the swim less the school
33:51does the swim?
33:52>> They are It was
33:55I think 9:00 to 2:00.
33:57>> 9:00 to 2:00?
33:58>> Mhm.
33:59>> So, maybe lap swim you could do 6:00 to
34:038:00.
34:05>> If I have two two people go in, that's
34:08$8. And I And then I'm being charged,
34:11what's the price for I think it was $14.
34:14So, 14*6 and we only make $8.
34:18>> Okay.
34:20Well, I was just thinking if maybe
34:23as a
34:24>> And that's per hour.
34:25>> Yeah.
34:25>> It's per In my opinion, per hour.
34:27They're just paying just to come in. So,
34:30$8 to come in, but I'm getting paid Say
34:32it was say 6:00 to 8:00.
34:34Now, I'm putting out 6*
34:3614
34:38*2, that's a good chunk of money that
34:40I'm losing out.
34:41Only 120 bucks.
34:42>> Oh, just so.
34:45>> It's nothing.
34:45>> in the bucket.
34:46>> Yeah, it's nothing.
34:48But, you know, that But, that is
34:49something, you know, obviously I can see
34:53um maybe
34:55we can put a survey out there and see
34:57how many people are actually going to
34:58want to do lap swim. Um plus, how many
35:01people are going to come at night?
35:03You know, a lot of the What I've heard
35:06of the lap swimmers were during the
35:07daytime.
35:08>> Yes. That's what I said 6:00 to 8:00
35:10a.m. Not
35:11>> But, I have to swim at that time.
35:13>> Yeah. Oh, okay.
35:14>> So, I can't do that 6:00 to 8:00.
35:17So,
35:20that's that's where we're at with the
35:21money.
35:23>> Yeah.
35:23>> Any other questions I can do my best to
35:25answer?
35:27I said I'm doing my best to make sure
35:29that we're able to get money, make sure
35:31that moving forward I allocate it
35:32correctly.
35:34Um and
35:36you know, make sure that we're on the
35:38positive.
35:39>> What did we decide on the signs that
35:41we're going to put out there?
35:42>> I'm working on those, too.
35:43I'm I'm actually
35:45seeing how much it's going to cost to
35:47get the fiberglass. Um to have that with
35:51our our hours, our days, and then Lisa's
35:55working on putting a
35:57uh
35:58a sign up to say swim event,
36:01but we're going to laminate it here. So,
36:03we're trying to do stuff in house so we
36:05don't have to go outsource it.
36:06>> Would it be I mean, on something like
36:09that wouldn't it be much, much, much
36:11easier just to make, have a banner at
36:14the guy that has the mall, is at the
36:16mall, have a banner made up, so then
36:19during
36:21the when the pool closes we can just
36:22stick the zip ties, put it away, and
36:25we're done.
36:25>> Where am I going to get the money?
36:28>> Cuz you're spending money here with
36:30labor on
36:32>> Cuz you're doing work here, too, so that
36:34I thought I could justify it.
36:36Where am I going to get the money to put
36:38the banner up or pay for the banner?
36:41That's going to put us deeper in the
36:42hole. Not that I'm not saying it's a
36:44good idea. It's not It is a good idea if
36:46I was on the upside.
36:48>> How much is it to do that?
36:50>> To prevent it?
36:51>> Yeah.
36:52>> I I can find out. See how much how big
36:55we need it and then put the Were you
36:56talking about the hours?
36:58hours
36:58>> Whatever you guys are doing.
37:00>> I I think you it's important that we
37:01have the hours of operation.
37:04Okay?
37:05Um we need to have
37:06um
37:07uh uh
37:09>> the days
37:10>> the days that how much it cost
37:12um and even an emergency phone number to
37:15be able to have on there.
37:18>> And the code the
37:21if they had we had the like the QR code
37:23>> Yeah.
37:24>> Because then the then parents can come
37:26right there and just hit it and then
37:27they can take it from there.
37:29Because
37:31I've heard a lot of people say last
37:33summer they can never ever contact
37:37without coming in but they can never
37:39never call and get a person on the
37:42phone.
37:43>> Yeah, they don't answer the phone.
37:44They're like the ones
37:46>> And they shouldn't be answering the
37:48phone there. They should be calling
37:49here.
37:50Cuz I have all the info.
37:51>> Whatever whatever number
37:52>> And that that number got changed. That
37:54got fixed on the should have gone fixed
37:55on the website where
37:56>> Okay. But whatever whatever the number
37:58was,
37:59people still have problems calling it.
38:03>> So, I will I will work on that.
38:05>> So, Mike mentioned this gentleman down
38:07>> Yes, ma'am.
38:08>> Um I do have a friend who's a
38:10photographer um from Prosser and she
38:13does do like senior banners and
38:15different kind of banners.
38:17Um she did some for us for the high
38:19school for when they run out. So, if you
38:23do I can send you that contact. Maybe
38:25she can give us a pretty good price on
38:29like the banner. I don't know how much
38:31each one costs, but I do know from like
38:33Office Depot
38:35um they do they are pretty spendy and I
38:38know what we paid with her wasn't as
38:40spendy.
38:41>> Yeah.
38:41>> That'd be great. I'd greatly appreciate
38:43that.
38:43>> Yeah.
38:44>> That's what I was That's what I was
38:46going to say. Mike mentioned the
38:47gentleman down here. He's expensive. You
38:50go with someone else,
38:51they're more expensive. Office Depot is
38:54reasonable. That's where I make my
38:56banners at in the summertime for the
38:57Lions Club.
38:58>> Let me know when I'm willing to buy the
38:59banner.
39:01I'll pay for the banner.
39:02>> Okay.
39:03>> We just need to know what size
39:07>> What size days? And then And we have to
39:09make sure
39:11the days because of right now I'm only
39:14open Thursday. We're going to the future
39:16right now. Thursday, Friday, Saturday,
39:18Sunday.
39:19Do we want the pool open more?
39:23Well, I mean And if I get the And if I
39:26get the swim lessons back, they're till
39:282:00.
39:30So, that's Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday.
39:34Yeah. Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday. That's
39:36why I was only open Thursday, Friday,
39:38Saturday, Sunday.
39:39>> The reason I wanted to also work on this
39:40is because eventually we're going to be
39:42working our budget, too.
39:43>> No, I understand.
39:43>> And so, I want to make sure that this is
39:45on the budget.
39:46>> So, banners at the mall
39:48>> Mhm.
39:49>> uh
39:51are anywhere under $100 for a 2-ft by
39:543-ft?
39:55>> Okay. Good.
39:56>> And I think I did it at
39:58>> mind, too, there is different kind of
40:01banners that you can use for outside.
40:03Just
40:04uh I know when she asked us to order, uh
40:08there was a different material and how
40:10long they would be used for outside. And
40:13then they charged per bracket cuz I
40:15think it came with four, but if you
40:18wanted additional brackets, they charged
40:20you for more.
40:21>> We just need those grommets I hooks that
40:24they punch in.
40:25>> No, I don't think they did. They did the
40:26lettering to get get the lettering cut.
40:29>> So, my my last banner that I got at
40:31Office Depot was a 4x6
40:35for my 4th of July one and it was $55.
40:39>> Good.
40:40And and I'll I'll
40:42And I'll I'll look into all that and get
40:45get prices for everybody.
40:46>> Like I said, why don't you Did you put
40:48down the QR code?
40:49>> Yeah, QR code.
40:52>> Well, let me know and I'll I'm willing
40:54to buy the bag. So.
40:58So.
40:59>> Thank you.
41:00>> And I think too, I think
41:02I know I've heard some people say last
41:04year
41:05the pool the kids came in, but there
41:09wasn't enough kids. So, I heard and I
41:12was I think this year, maybe last year,
41:15that the lifeguards had everybody
41:16>> to get out of the pool and they closed
41:18the pool because there wasn't enough
41:20kids in there.
41:21>> Mhm.
41:21>> And again again because we're only
41:24making eight, well, I'm paying $6 or
41:27Sorry. What was it? I think one of them
41:29was I think the first session was 12
41:3212 to 2
41:33at six lifeguards.
41:35And then it was
41:382:30 to 5:30.
41:41And then we have family swim. So,
41:44in the long run
41:45are we willing to dish out all that
41:47money for just eight bucks?
41:48>> But in the long run though, it it's no
41:50more different than going to a a
41:53business.
41:54You think they're going to be open and
41:56then all of a sudden there's a sign
41:57saying it's closed for the rest of the
41:58day. But then the next day you go back,
42:01well, they
42:02we didn't have any customers through
42:03after then we closed.
42:05Well, a lot of those people know
42:08that the pool's open cuz their kids are
42:10in there. Then all of a sudden Johnny
42:12has to call and say, "Mom, come and get
42:13me. They closed the pool."
42:16So.
42:16>> that's something that I have to talk to
42:18council about. Is it something that we
42:19want to keep open? Is it something that
42:21we're willing to
42:23pay out to just for two kids?
42:25>> Cuz you start If you start doing that,
42:27they're all going to head to
42:29>> Well, I understand, but again, it's the
42:31whole ratio. I got $2 in there and I'm
42:33paying out so much. Is it Is it
42:36beneficial on on the city?
42:39>> Well, I think if we got designated times
42:43that people actually knew that we were
42:45open
42:46and what the cost is, you'd probably get
42:49more people.
42:50But me personally, this last year was
42:53confusing as to when they were open,
42:56when they weren't open.
42:57>> That's why I want to put that banner up
42:59because a lot of people, that's the
43:00first thing they come to me. When are
43:01you guys open?
43:02>> Yeah.
43:02>> But, the people are gone.
43:03>> But, then again, you put the banner up
43:04and you have the hours and you could be
43:06at the right day and the right time, but
43:08then all of a sudden they close it
43:09within an hour. So, so
43:11>> It does get closed.
43:13>> Yes, I get I need I have that open for
43:15an hour. So, when that when I have two
43:17kids in there, they're for at least an
43:19hour and a half.
43:20And if I don't have
43:21>> Mom has a question.
43:22>> Oh, yes, sir.
43:23>> I have a question.
43:25What do the banners tell you what time
43:27it closes open and
43:28>> Yeah.
43:28>> Yeah, it will tell you these times.
43:30>> I was not about maybe just suggesting,
43:33um
43:34I go to a welding tech, we had a
43:35electronic board
43:37and you go out there and you
43:39punch in what you want it to say and
43:4412:00 to 7:00.
43:45>> That's expensive.
43:47>> Well, not too bad, really. I mean, you
43:49can find one that is going to last you
43:5120 years because all you do is put new
43:54programs in and it's on the board and
43:56it's it continually reads.
43:58>> Kind of like the fire department has a
44:00new back
44:00>> Exactly.
44:01>> Well, yeah,
44:03>> I know if you get one, they do like
44:05special like they give you a deal and
44:08then you can sell ads on there. So, they
44:11are semi expensive, but they're willing
44:14to work with you. It's kind of like how
44:16Pepsi does if you put their name on your
44:19banner, you get the banner for free.
44:22>> Bring a Pepsi machine in at the pool.
44:26>> Got it.
44:27We'll do it.
44:28>> Well, that's that's a great idea and
44:29everything, but with us being
44:33not funding, we don't have the money.
44:36So, if we can do
44:38a banner for under 100 bucks that will
44:40last for a good 3 months instead of
44:42paying $1,200
44:44which will last for 20 years. I I see
44:46the ratio part, but just to start until
44:49we can raise enough money to purchase
44:51the electronic one.
44:52>> And it's something that look into a
44:53grant. Maybe we can find a grant that'd
44:55be able to fund it. You know, it's I
44:57mean, doesn't hurt to look. The worst
44:59they can tell me is no.
45:00>> Yeah.
45:01>> They've got one on the entrance into
45:02Grandview, they've got one on the
45:04entrance into Sunnyside.
45:06>> And I can talk to you, I think it's Mark
45:09who's the owner of those in Texas, and
45:11see if he's willing to put one over here
45:13at our
45:15You know, the worst he can tell me is
45:16no, it's not, you know, beneficial.
45:19>> Or maybe do it from Florida.
45:21>> It's a good idea.
45:22>> Currently, it's on the top in the glass,
45:25right? And it's like lettering that you
45:27can't see. Or it's not glass?
45:29>> No, it's just fake wood. So, and that's
45:31been up since, well, back in like '15,
45:33and it's been the same thing.
45:35So, we do put out the banner that says
45:37lifeguards wanted, but then
45:39when we get a lifeguard, we take it
45:41down.
45:41>> Yeah.
45:42>> But, you know, like I said, we're
45:43working on some stuff to make it more
45:45beneficial. I'm going to be getting the
45:47word out more.
45:49Um we'll work on the billboard.
45:51>> on the on the billboard,
45:53>> And I And I did last year. Um
45:55>> Yeah, I saw that.
45:56Even after the pool was closing,
45:59>> So, um it's something that I'm working
46:01on this year to make sure that I get it
46:03on the billboard there, and right here
46:05at the fire department, cuz they did put
46:06it out for me also. Um
46:09So, I And like I said, I you know, we
46:11are
46:12working diligently to get it
46:15the word out. Um obviously, everybody
46:18else who can spread the word also, you
46:20know, that's great. You know, at our
46:21last year, um the beginning of the fall,
46:24we had people that did some donations.
46:26Um
46:27and this year I will be working starting
46:30earlier to make sure I have those I can
46:32put it out there saying, "Donate a bike,
46:34so-and-so." Um that way they get the
46:37praise, because it is it is cuz if it
46:39wasn't for them, we wouldn't be able to
46:41do what we do now.
46:43So.
46:43>> So, when will you go out for bids on
46:46everything you guys need to do?
46:47>> I still got to make sure I get the money
46:48first.
46:49>> But we have that money already.
46:52>> So, have it allocated. It's sitting
46:54there, but it hasn't been given to me.
46:56But the the letter has not been come
46:58over.
46:58>> But we had one for strictly the pool.
47:01>> We do have one strictly for a pool, but
47:03like I told you guys before, the
47:05application didn't get put in correctly.
47:07That's the one I've been working on for
47:08quite a while.
47:09I haven't sent letters out to the engine
47:11tribal and
47:13they haven't sent anything back, so I'm
47:14guessing they're good with those.
47:15Um we are Justin and I are working with
47:18the Chamber of Commerce to make sure
47:20that money is good to go and we're that
47:22way we can move forward.
47:23>> And where did the money go from? At they
47:26want to do repairs to the bandstand.
47:28>> That money actually went to what I was
47:31told is
47:33the past
47:34interim city manager moved it over to
47:37the parking lot or not the parking lot.
47:39Yes, the parking lot next to where these
47:41eagles at. Now, coming from Mr. Curry,
47:44he stated that the mayor was saying,
47:47"No, we don't want that now." Well, if
47:49that's the case, I need to let
47:52the Commerce know that's not what we
47:55want to do.
47:55>> Because when
47:56>> We did get a letter for that one to say
47:58it was okay that we do that to buy that
48:00that
48:01that lot there, sir.
48:03>> Because when we were all at the pool for
48:06the inspection,
48:07she made the comment that maybe we
48:09shouldn't be trying to purchase that
48:12property and take that money
48:14and put it towards
48:16the bathhouses and the pool.
48:18But that that was just open talk. So,
48:21that's something that you're
48:23may have to get with the mayor and say,
48:24"Hey, when we had that
48:27walk around and see what she says
48:30because I mean
48:32that's what she had said, but she's only
48:33one person. So, and I don't know if you
48:36heard that conversation.
48:38>> Mhm.
48:38>> So, you know, I I don't know where the
48:41city's the I don't know the city owns
48:43that parking lot now?
48:44>> We don't own it yet. We haven't bought
48:46it yet. The money I just got the not the
48:48letter I got just got the letter about 3
48:50months ago saying that we were allowed
48:52they were moving the money over for that
48:54particular
48:55um
48:57but if we need to move it again, and
48:59need to get on it now, but sooner than
49:01later.
49:02>> And then So, then what you're saying
49:04then is that application for the pool
49:06was all mixed up. So, you don't That
49:09money is not
49:10>> That money is allocated to us, but it's
49:12not in our hands.
49:13>> Okay. But we can't go out for bids.
49:15>> We can't go out for bids. I want to make
49:17sure that money's in my hand, and not
49:19put us in a more bigger deficit than we
49:21were already in.
49:22>> Well, do they charge for bids?
49:24>> No.
49:26>> Then why Why can't we ask for a bid?
49:29>> Because remember the bids are only good
49:31for 30 days.
49:32So, after those 30 days,
49:34and I still don't have that money, I'm
49:36going to have to go out for new bids.
49:39So, I
49:40In my opinion, the thing is to wait till
49:42we I make sure I have that money, and
49:43then go out for bids, so I can say this
49:46is what we're going, you know.
49:48>> But you can't count that money that as
49:51cash yet.
49:51>> Correct.
49:53And like but if the committee the
49:54committee wants me to go out for bids
49:56now, I'm more than happy to.
49:58>> if they were good for a year, then I'd
49:59have to say,"Yeah, let's do it."But you
50:01know, like building of a house, I mean,
50:04you get bids to build a house, but
50:06that's different than 30 days. They're
50:08probably good for a year, so who knows?
50:11I don't know how that works.
50:12>> Mhm.
50:14So,
50:17any other questions, comments?
50:19>> I have a question. So, we not on here
50:24for 2026, it says lifeguard class
50:27classes, it says zero, but then in the
50:29previous there's actual numbers on
50:31there. So, did we pay for classes in
50:35previous year, and this year we didn't?
50:37>> Right.
50:38We did.
50:39>> We did.
50:42>> So, for the 2026, was it not inputed
50:45yet, cuz it does say life lifeguard
50:48classes, and it has zero?
50:50>> Because they paid, and we reimbursed. Or
50:54No, no, sorry. We got a lot of returners
50:56who still have lifeguard uh provisions
50:59is their card.
51:01>> Oh, okay. So, then the previous years it
51:04was kind of like everybody was getting
51:06>> new. So this coming up year, depending
51:09on who applies or how many we get
51:11returning,
51:13we may have to pay for five bucks, but
51:15they pay it first and then when when
51:17it's fantastic class, we reimburse them.
51:20We don't we don't pay for it until they
51:22actually pass
51:24because
51:25then it doesn't benefit us.
51:26>> Is that what other pools do?
51:27>> Yes.
51:29>> Okay. Um my question is uh
51:32I didn't get the pool season pass this
51:35year, I believe,
51:36because it was very confusing. They
51:40didn't have a way to give me a card.
51:42>> No, we do have a card machine now. So we
51:45do have that up. We did get that up
51:47towards the mid-season.
51:50Um we're waiting on
51:52the machine to get done or to us to get
51:56the machine.
51:57Um we have it up now. We do so it's very
51:59good that I've been working on it. So we
52:01do have that card. So when there is a
52:03pass, now with that being said,
52:06we do have a waiver that every swimmer
52:08is going to have to sign.
52:10Okay? So we're going to put that on the
52:12website and they have to come in so they
52:15don't have to sign
52:17the waiver every time they go in there
52:19and this is through the W C I A. They're
52:21making everybody in their pool do it.
52:24That
52:26if they sign a waiver, they'll get a
52:28card and then they that way when the
52:30pool staff when they show up and pay,
52:32hey, have you signed the waiver? They
52:34have their card.
52:36And that that being said, it'll say on
52:38there
52:39pool year
52:412027.
52:44So
52:45um if they lose it,
52:48then that's going to be the first one is
52:49obviously the free one with the refund,
52:51but or the the free waiver, the second
52:54one will be five four dollars, you know,
52:57to get redone.
53:02Okay?
53:04Unless to let else has a better idea how
53:06to get that going.
53:08But that's that's something that that
53:09WSCIA, when I had my pool parts audited,
53:14that was something that was coming down
53:16the line that they were willing one
53:18really wanted to push park forward.
53:20>> And that's for all swimmers?
53:21>> That's for all swimmers.
53:29>> Anything else, sir?
53:32>> Yes, sir.
53:33Just a question. It says uh on the
53:35payroll cost summary, you have benefits.
53:39What are the part-time employees?
53:42>> Right here.
53:43>> Yeah, I see that. What is that about?
53:45>> I will have to look into that. I'm not
53:46quite sure because they were
53:47part-timers, they shouldn't have been
53:49paying benefits and we shouldn't have
53:50been paying for them for benefits.
53:52>> Hector, I think that you said last time
53:55cuz I asked that same question, also.
53:57You said that they put in
54:00the employees from the city, they put
54:04their benefits in there. But this was
54:07like a while ago when I did ask you
54:09about that.
54:11>> If there were um like some of Mitch's
54:13employees allocated to benefits for the
54:17pool water, that would be my
54:19function, but I'm not sure
54:20>> Yeah.
54:21>> if that was the case.
54:23>> Yeah, they they were
54:24>> So, these aren't kids.
54:25>> I'm not What page was it?
54:28>> Uh all of them.
54:29>> No, that's that's actually the
54:31employees. No, part-time employees. And
54:33that's what I need to make sure because
54:34we they shouldn't have been paying
54:36>> Oh, I see what you mean.
54:37>> Yeah, they shouldn't have been paying
54:38benefits
54:39because they were part-time. But then
54:42again, I don't know how many hours they
54:43were doing because there's only a
54:44certain amount of hours that part-timers
54:47can do without us paying benefits. So,
54:49back in whenever this was
54:51>> 2014
54:52>> If this was 2014, depending on how many
54:53hours they got, that's when
54:56um
54:57when they
54:58they have to pay benefits. On some of
55:00these.
55:01>> That's 26.
55:02>> No, that's 20 20
55:04Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. That's
55:052014. it in yes, sir.
55:07So,
55:08that's that's why I have to look into
55:11that, see how many hours back then
55:12they've done.
55:13>> Yeah, what's listed?
55:14>> can see Yeah.
55:15>> The hours are listed.
55:16>> Are they listed again?
55:17>> yeah, there's a breakdown.
55:18>> Oh, okay, right there. 311 hours.
55:21And then overtime wages we have there.
55:23>> And that's in 3 months.
55:25>> Holy.
55:28They got one right there that was the
55:30326.
55:32Uh one that was 365 hours.
55:37And that's That was something that I
55:40knew that we can't get over the
55:42part-timers hours there. That's That's
55:44why I broke it up so much to make sure
55:47we were not going over those that
55:49threshold.
55:50>> I just
55:52randomly looked at
55:54one of these and it's $993
55:58since for benefits.
55:59>> Yeah.
56:00>> For 3 months.
56:02>> That and like I said, I I'm looking at
56:04the original one there.
56:05>> That one?
56:08>> What is the difference on the bottom of
56:09the 993?
56:10>> So,
56:11>> 1,000.
56:14>> It wouldn't have looked that bad
56:16overall.
56:19>> So, No, I mean that's something I
56:21definitely look into.
56:22>> Yes, they don't
56:24Well,
56:25very good relation.
56:26>> It's a little bit cool situation.
56:27Really, it's
56:29There's no benefits until you've been
56:30here
56:31>> So, many Yeah.
56:32Yeah.
56:33>> It's going to be just like the national
56:35>> So, you pay like you have to pay the
56:37little
56:38So,
56:38>> See, you do that, but that's the
56:39threshold. That's That's why I try to
56:40keep those hours under those thresholds
56:42so we don't have to pay those.
56:43>> Oh.
56:43>> This is part-timers.
56:45>> Yeah.
56:46Not full-time employees.
56:49>> And what do they do over there,
56:50part-timers?
56:51>> So,
56:52>> Everything.
56:53>> That That
56:53>> They do the same thing. It's just the
56:54amount of hours that they're working.
56:56>> Doing something.
56:57The same thing as what?
56:58>> Uh the lifeguards The lifeguards itself.
57:00>> Oh, it's a lifeguard.
57:01>> Yes.
57:03>> Or the cashiers that are in the front
57:05taking the payments.
57:07>> So, And then I am going to have an
57:09expectation on this one.
57:12Expectation is
57:13you're there during the hours that
57:15you're working.
57:16You clock in. I do not want to see you
57:18guys
57:19sitting around unless you're on your
57:21break.
57:22Other than that, you're going to be out
57:24there. No phones. That was one of the
57:26biggest things I had trouble with is
57:28those phones. Those phones are going to
57:30get put away or they're going to stay in
57:32your car.
57:32>> Yeah, I was going to say over the past 2
57:34years I've noticed that a lot of my
57:35lifeguards have been
57:37>> Yeah. So, that's that's going to be
57:38number one.
57:39Expectation number one. Number two, if
57:42you're up front, lifeguards cannot go to
57:44the front. The only people who are going
57:46to be allowed up front is the
57:47registration people. I'm going to
57:48separate those because there are some
57:50people that don't want to do lifeguard
57:52but want to want a job to do
57:54registration.
57:55You know, so that's that's going to be
57:57we're going to put a piece of string
57:59there that says no lifeguard is in
58:00there. And the cameras are going to keep
58:02an eye on a lot better. You know, I do
58:04have access to those cameras. Make sure
58:06I'm keeping an eye on all of
58:09in the room there that I found a couple
58:11sleeping. That's going to go away.
58:14So,
58:15I asked I asked them what they were
58:17doing.
58:17>> Sounds like high school.
58:18>> They were they said they were just
58:20relaxing. No, there's no relaxing in in
58:22a room with your eyes closed and then
58:24unless you're praying.
58:26Um but I didn't hear anybody say amen.
58:28So,
58:29they're going to be out. Yep.
58:31>> Also, were you going to put that they
58:33are and they were going to clean? Cuz
58:36that was a big thing.
58:37>> That is That is another one. The
58:38cleaning situation is going to be taken
58:40care of that they do the cleaning
58:44at night, the end of the shift. And if
58:47it's between, they they do a quick walk
58:50around.
58:50>> Yeah, you just going to have to do up a
58:52good job description of what is
58:55expected.
58:55>> And like I said, the expectation is
58:57going to be
58:58>> read it and they sign it, then you can
59:00hold them accountable.
59:01>> Exactly.
59:01>> And I think you having Lisa as the pool
59:03manager will really help in that because
59:06it's it's not a child.
59:08>> Correct. Well, young adults. Yeah. Is
59:10that that was the problem we had young
59:12adults in there, and they were all
59:13friends.
59:14And
59:15>> And being on time.
59:16>> Yes, being on time. Remember the time
59:19you come down calm that um
59:21>> I also
59:22>> The thing is it's like I said, you know,
59:24they're all friends, and we and I
59:27understand, you know, I was young, too.
59:29We had friends, but there's a difference
59:31between work and friendship. And some
59:33people can't differentiate the two.
59:36Um
59:36when you're here, you're at work.
59:39When you're off, you're off. Excuse me?
59:41>> What's your average age?
59:43>> Uh right now it's 15 and 1/2. That's the
59:45lowest I can hire. Um I'm thinking of
59:49going at least to 15.
59:51Um
59:52>> What's the oldest?
59:53>> Excuse me, the oldest?
59:54>> The older
59:55>> The older the last one I had was
59:58The last part-time employee was 24 years
1:00:00old.
1:00:01>> So
1:00:01>> Yeah.
1:00:03>> You get a good painter in there and
1:00:04teach him how to paint and save 70,000.
1:00:06>> Yes.
1:00:09So
1:00:09>> Well, look.
1:00:10I'm literally not right on.
1:00:12>> Yeah, you know. We put it to work.
1:00:14So
1:00:15>> The older one that can write is the most
1:00:17important thing.
1:00:18>> Yeah, yeah, yeah. We're we're we're
1:00:19getting the right people.
1:00:21>> Well, did you see what the last painter
1:00:22did? Was it right?
1:00:23>> No.
1:00:23>> It didn't that?
1:00:24>> No. The floors aren't right. The walls
1:00:26aren't right.
1:00:27>> No, you can't paint over that.
1:00:28>> That's one of the reasons I was also
1:00:30upset. 77,000 and you
1:00:32>> Yeah. You can't get that.
1:00:33>> So
1:00:34>> You got to pay for it after that.
1:00:38>> So and then we are working on filling
1:00:40out the the void corners.
1:00:43Um I know last year I had
1:00:46quite a few unhomed or housed people
1:00:49living in there's, and we're thinking of
1:00:52closing those off. Um the other thing
1:00:54we're thinking about doing is putting
1:00:56gates on the bathrooms. So at night
1:00:58time, people cannot just go to the
1:01:00bathroom when it's locked and just
1:01:02defecate all over the ground. So we're
1:01:04we're going to put the doors gated doors
1:01:06on. We're going to think about putting
1:01:07gated doors to lock those up so at night
1:01:10time they can't get back there.
1:01:11>> This is probably a future thought, but
1:01:14um
1:01:15timed
1:01:16codes. I know Plaza has timed codes
1:01:19on their bathrooms. They're like they
1:01:21schedule like they know what time the
1:01:23room is going to be there. So, I don't
1:01:24know. They just go in and schedule when
1:01:26it will be open and it will close at a
1:01:28certain time.
1:01:29>> Yeah.
1:01:29>> I don't know.
1:01:31People will get locked in there.
1:01:33>> Is there something that we could do to
1:01:35put on there for kids? Cuz I know
1:01:38um there was like some kids that were
1:01:40just rude, disrespectful at the pool and
1:01:43they would keep coming. And is there
1:01:45something where we could like maybe
1:01:46trespass them? Like you can't come
1:01:49or I know there was one kid, the mom
1:01:51would just let him run in and they would
1:01:53have the lifeguards or the cashiers run
1:01:56and try to catch him and because he
1:01:57didn't want to pay. And the mom just
1:02:00kind of was like, oh, whatever, just let
1:02:01him run in there.
1:02:03>> Days in. Sorry. Yeah.
1:02:06I I
1:02:07um
1:02:07>> Days in.
1:02:08>> I
1:02:10I can ask, but I'm not sure that we can
1:02:13trespass anybody. I mean, that's
1:02:16Yeah.
1:02:17>> I I just want to
1:02:18>> It is a public pool.
1:02:20>> Yeah, I didn't know what the rules were
1:02:22or what we could do because I mean, if
1:02:24the kids are not acting correctly, well,
1:02:27then, you know,
1:02:29>> We can ask them to leave, but at the
1:02:30same time, if their parents aren't
1:02:32there, I I can't make them because I
1:02:35have to have an adult with them.
1:02:40>> Okay.
1:02:40>> So,
1:02:41yeah.
1:02:43>> I know like at the high school you know,
1:02:44like the football games, like you can't
1:02:46get in unless you have an adult. So, I
1:02:47don't know what the rules
1:02:49>> And if that's the case, then no one's
1:02:51going to the pool. No one knows or
1:02:54follows their kids in there.
1:02:55>> For duct tape.
1:02:57>> So,
1:02:57>> can the lifeguards were they able to put
1:03:00people on time out or are they just
1:03:01solely
1:03:02>> I I The lifeguards cannot touch anybody.
1:03:04>> Well, not touch them, but tell them
1:03:05>> No, no.
1:03:06Yeah, no, we can we can ask them to We
1:03:08can ask them, but
1:03:10if they don't
1:03:10>> Uh-huh.
1:03:11>> you know,
1:03:12>> But for safety purposes, you would think
1:03:15we should have that control, too.
1:03:18To stop them. I mean, it's I know what
1:03:20Then we become the babysitter,
1:03:23but at the same time, if the kids learn
1:03:26the rules, then they're not so apt to
1:03:28act out.
1:03:30>> Correct, but there again,
1:03:32how far do we go with
1:03:35the the the trying to correct it?
1:03:37Um because obviously, like I stated,
1:03:40say one gets hit.
1:03:43The one of the lifeguards gets hit, and
1:03:46it it's a child. You know, how how are
1:03:49we going to correct that?
1:03:50We can tell no, no, no, but
1:03:53you know,
1:03:54we we can't actually physically Oh, we
1:03:56>> Maybe that's when we need to call the PD
1:03:58and have them
1:03:59escort them out.
1:04:00>> And but they're they're liable to say
1:04:01can't
1:04:02technically escort them out.
1:04:05Because who are you going to take them
1:04:05with?
1:04:07If the mom says,"I'm going not going to
1:04:08pick up the kids."
1:04:10>> Yeah, and
1:04:11>> The mom's not going to pick up the kids.
1:04:12>> Then they're babysitting them over there
1:04:13at the
1:04:14>> PD.
1:04:15>> Yeah.
1:04:15>> That's what they're trying to avoid and
1:04:16cause more problems.
1:04:18>> So,
1:04:19>> Just an idea popped out there.
1:04:21>> No, I and I and I I hear everybody's
1:04:22frustration about it cuz trust me, I
1:04:25would have been on the same way as like,
1:04:27"Oh, if you were mine,
1:04:29they'd be gone."
1:04:29>> Well, I'm hoping that that I can be
1:04:31really When I'm in a store and I got you
1:04:33hear that kid going everywhere,
1:04:35screaming, and yelling, everything, I
1:04:37really say out loud,"It's time to take
1:04:39that child home."
1:04:40>> Mhm.
1:04:43>> Sorry.
1:04:44>> So, I want to go back a little bit to
1:04:46when are we going to be starting putting
1:04:47the shades up to the to the
1:04:49>> I will talk to you
1:04:51um
1:04:51Dave Dave Waterbury.
1:04:53>> Okay.
1:04:53>> They break Waterbury and see when
1:04:55they're going to be moving forward, and
1:04:56then I will email everybody.
1:04:58>> But they're asking for a process right
1:05:00now. They cuz they're they want to know
1:05:02what the process is. That was going to
1:05:04>> Talk to him?
1:05:04>> Talk to him on Wednesday morning.
1:05:07And start to work on the process because
1:05:10they don't just go up there and start
1:05:11digging holes. You have a backhoe truck
1:05:13and you have ways to do it and
1:05:15quickly,
1:05:16efficiently. So, I would think that if
1:05:19they're going to donate that money, we
1:05:20can
1:05:21spare a couple of dollars and probably
1:05:22work something.
1:05:23>> They had You know,
1:05:25I don't even know if it's worth doing it
1:05:26this starting it this year, but having
1:05:28it probably March, April of next year.
1:05:30>> Or at least
1:05:31>> Well, they have to go for bids, too, to
1:05:32see where they can find them. Are they
1:05:34don't Are they
1:05:36>> Bids for what?
1:05:37>> To to Well, they'll go look and see
1:05:38which one they're going to go with.
1:05:40Cuz I know some of them were saying that
1:05:41they want to go with the one that's at
1:05:43the Saints at Christian.
1:05:45And they said,"Well, let's let's see how
1:05:46much it's going to cost."And
1:05:47>> They have
1:05:48>> Seriously.
1:05:48>> I know, but they were just working to
1:05:50see
1:05:50how much
1:05:53>> Oh, they already have them.
1:05:53>> Oh, do they have the bids already?
1:05:55>> No, they already have the what they're
1:05:56going to get.
1:05:57>> Oh, do they?
1:05:58>> Yeah, that's what I understood is that I
1:06:00was going to go to Wednesday's meeting
1:06:01cuz
1:06:03they might do something back in the
1:06:04office, but
1:06:07They they had
1:06:08it planned out already, is what I got
1:06:11>> And I'll I'll talk to Mr. Hayes to see
1:06:12he get the, you know, maybe he's
1:06:14correct, maybe I'm just not hearing the
1:06:15whole thing.
1:06:16>> He gives an update on that.
1:06:17>> I'll give you an
1:06:18>> update on it.
1:06:19>> Yeah, those guys don't move. They're
1:06:21>> Yeah.
1:06:21>> I mean, when we did like the shady down
1:06:23on the pathway,
1:06:24>> Mhm.
1:06:25>> it was just everybody can sign up and
1:06:28then you get all your tools and you show
1:06:29up and you put it up and you leave.
1:06:31So, it
1:06:32>> But that was back in the day when people
1:06:34wanted to do something.
1:06:36>> It's like
1:06:37I said Monday, especially for $70,000.
1:06:41>> That's a lot.
1:06:41>> Yeah.
1:06:43Yeah, but see, you're from that
1:06:44generation.
1:06:45>> Yeah, I guess so.
1:06:46Oh, my goodness.
1:06:47>> Okay.
1:06:48>> Yeah, so
1:06:51>> And
1:06:54And in the next meeting, are we good on
1:06:56every other month right now, or does
1:06:58everybody still want to continue on the
1:06:59monthly?
1:07:00>> I think every other month, unless
1:07:01anybody else is different, cuz I mean,
1:07:04one of the reasons is we're not parks
1:07:05are closed a lot of things, so.
1:07:06>> Yeah.
1:07:07And we got holidays coming up.
1:07:09>> I do have one question about the
1:07:10community center.
1:07:11>> Yes, sir.
1:07:12>> What are we doing in regards to opening
1:07:13it?
1:07:14>> So,
1:07:14>> I had Hector call me um
1:07:17uh and asked me go,"Well, we're still
1:07:19park um playing soccer on the tennis
1:07:21courts. It's cold, and your community
1:07:23center is like
1:07:24closed.
1:07:26It's cold, and the community center is
1:07:27closed.
1:07:28>> I was going to ask the same question,
1:07:29cuz my kids are up there right now
1:07:31practicing.
1:07:32>> And he's the one that had the team
1:07:36He I think he minimized a little bit.
1:07:37And I I called him out on it. So, I
1:07:39said, "Hey, you know what, man?
1:07:40There was some damage. It was reported."
1:07:42He goes, "It was minimal damage."
1:07:43Regardless, it was damage.
1:07:45Um but he's wanting to ask He asked me
1:07:48um
1:07:49that hey, what are we doing in regards
1:07:50to the community center?
1:07:52We paid for it. We put it out there.
1:07:55We've given them the the
1:07:58uh the all of the the stuff that they
1:08:00need, insurance and everything, but it's
1:08:01still closed. Why can't we use it?
1:08:03You guys can give it to the pickleball,
1:08:04but don't give it to us. So, tell me
1:08:06what what what are we doing with that?
1:08:08>> So, right now
1:08:10I have many people call.
1:08:12Uh
1:08:13>> When you say uh
1:08:14>> Uh soccer schools will call me. I've had
1:08:16basketball people call me.
1:08:18Um
1:08:19then they wanted to use it.
1:08:20>> Okay.
1:08:21>> Okay. I'm working with the insurance
1:08:23right now to see how we can move
1:08:24forward. I can't I personally the What
1:08:27happened last time is that made the
1:08:28contract, and it came and bit me in the
1:08:30in the behind, and I don't want that
1:08:32again. That was a lesson learned.
1:08:34I have to make sure that I do the proper
1:08:36proper steps. But the thing is is
1:08:39everybody's got to be understandable
1:08:41with the with me opening that community
1:08:43center. It can't be dedicated just to
1:08:45one activity.
1:08:46>> Right.
1:08:47>> And that's the problem right now is
1:08:50and I'm having
1:08:50>> Is anybody using it?
1:08:51>> Right now, pickleball.
1:08:53>> So, pickleball's back in there, but they
1:08:55>> Again, they're dedicated to pickleball.
1:08:57>> But it's it's dedicated to them right
1:08:59now because they're the only people that
1:09:02are that have I'm still bound by their
1:09:05old contract. The I'm finishing it up
1:09:08this year. They are signing waivers.
1:09:10They use it in the morning. They use it
1:09:12sometimes in the afternoons. And that's
1:09:14what I told Lisa. I cannot dedicate it
1:09:16for you to make sure that it's only used
1:09:20for pickleball or pickleball. I have to
1:09:22open it up to everybody. I have a
1:09:24basketball two basketball teams that
1:09:25want use it. And I got called today
1:09:27about another one that wants to use it
1:09:28for practice. They use one day at some
1:09:31church, they want to use one day here.
1:09:33But
1:09:34>> So Javier Javier also talked to me about
1:09:37it and he says, "I'm willing to pay any
1:09:38insurance that the city would want." He
1:09:40goes, "We need to get basketball." He
1:09:42goes, "Because there I had several
1:09:43people already. I have Hector, I have
1:09:45Javier, I have Jose. They've all said,
1:09:47'Hey, why are we Why is it only
1:09:49pickleball?' And
1:09:50it's making it look like we pick and
1:09:52choose who we allow in the
1:09:53>> But does pickleball pay?
1:09:55>> Yes.
1:09:56>> How much?
1:09:56>> They pay $2.
1:09:59>> And then if you have soccer or
1:10:01basketball, what are they going to pay?
1:10:03>> Then that's That's the thing is I got to
1:10:05figure it out. I can't just say,"Oh, I'm
1:10:07going to charge you the amount of what
1:10:09it is for a rental."
1:10:10>> But we have to be equal like we
1:10:11>> Exactly. Exactly. And that's the thing
1:10:13is pickleball understands that I'm I'm
1:10:15only allowing this for this year because
1:10:17this is the final year of the contract.
1:10:19Come next year,
1:10:21it's not going to be $2.
1:10:22>> I got you. So January?
1:10:24>> Yes.
1:10:24>> Okay.
1:10:25>> But what is Did they Excuse me. Did they
1:10:27sign
1:10:28what you're expecting soccer,
1:10:30basketball, all that, all the paperwork,
1:10:33all the insurance? Does pickleball have
1:10:35that?
1:10:36>> Yes.
1:10:37>> So if the if So if a basketball team
1:10:39comes in and says,"Hey, what do you
1:10:40need? Here's everything."And then are
1:10:42they going to be allowed to use it?
1:10:43>> Yes.
1:10:45>> So
1:10:45>> What are they going to be charged?
1:10:46>> That's That's the thing. So what I was
1:10:49told is they were charged $4.
1:10:53Four dollars per person just like
1:10:54pickleball charged $2 per person.
1:10:57Some people would pay, some people
1:10:59wouldn't.
1:11:00But that basketball gym was full.
1:11:04So there again, who do I hold liable for
1:11:07that? Do I hold the person that came to
1:11:09me?
1:11:10>> I mean, I think you could also hold the
1:11:11coaches liable. Say,"Hey, this is
1:11:13>> But no, but this is just pickleball.
1:11:15This is This is just to play just
1:11:17basketball. Adults playing basketball.
1:11:20That's what they wanted to They That's
1:11:21what they wanted.
1:11:22>> I I I I still think we need to have a
1:11:24plan and allowing the community to use
1:11:26it.
1:11:26>> Yeah, and I totally agree with you on
1:11:28that. I'm working on that, but there's
1:11:30there's steps that I have to take care
1:11:31of so so the city does not become liable
1:11:35for any injury that happens there.
1:11:37>> But if they're binding you, if they're
1:11:38paying for the insurance and putting
1:11:40giving you the insurance paperwork and
1:11:41everything,
1:11:43wouldn't that be the liability that
1:11:44takes away from the city if they're the
1:11:46ones that are already paying for the
1:11:47insurance?
1:11:48>> Um there on their sports, yes.
1:11:50But let's say something breaks there or
1:11:53>> Well, well, their insurance their
1:11:55insurance
1:11:57>> Yeah.
1:11:58>> Yeah.
1:11:58>> Have you ever said hey, I'm willing to
1:12:00put any money that they the school the
1:12:02the city wants, we need that place open.
1:12:05It goes they give it to pickleball I
1:12:07No, no, no. They give it to pickleball
1:12:08and they only pick and choose, but we're
1:12:10not able to put and there are we have
1:12:12little kids that want to play
1:12:13basketball, but why aren't we allowed to
1:12:15do it? And so I'm trying to give an
1:12:17explanation to our community letting
1:12:20know what we're doing with that with
1:12:21that community center
1:12:22>> Yeah, cuz it's they're only giving it to
1:12:24pickleball. It's going to ruffle a lot
1:12:26of feathers out there.
1:12:27>> Right, I understand.
1:12:28>> I feel like it's super easier just to
1:12:30rent like the school versus trying to
1:12:32get the community center. Um so it
1:12:35shouldn't be that difficult to be able
1:12:37to rent the community center when you
1:12:40just go into uh this app and you put
1:12:44your request what days you want and the
1:12:46person that's in charge of booking, they
1:12:48approve you or not approve and you have
1:12:51to turn in your insurance. I believe we
1:12:53have to get the insurance that the
1:12:55school district is um wanting. So I
1:12:59don't understand why we're making it so
1:13:01difficult for everybody when we could
1:13:03just do it see how the school does it
1:13:05and apply it to the community center.
1:13:09>> Pickleball has animals.
1:13:11>> Yes, pickleball has a charge. So we're
1:13:12saying
1:13:13>> and also dedicate certain days and time
1:13:16frames for each different event.
1:13:19>> But see the the problem is soccer wants
1:13:21it
1:13:224 in the afternoon to 6:00 and then they
1:13:25take an hour off and then they're going
1:13:26to want it 7:00 to night and they want
1:13:29it Tuesday, Thursday, Friday.
1:13:32And then I have basketball who's going
1:13:33to want it Monday
1:13:36and Monday, Wednesday, Friday.
1:13:39You know, how do I
1:13:40>> The I don't know how to control that.
1:13:42And that's how you where you can
1:13:43allocate. These are the times that are
1:13:45we have available and this is how much
1:13:47it costs. And then if somebody else
1:13:49comes in and says, "Hey, we want to also
1:13:51use it." Okay, you know what? We got to
1:13:52be equal to the whole community.
1:13:54Basketball is going to use it Tuesdays
1:13:56and Wednesdays. You know, soccer is
1:13:58going to use it Thursdays and Fridays.
1:14:00Pickleball is going to use it Mondays.
1:14:01Or this is what's going to happen during
1:14:03the weekends. But what what my message
1:14:05here is I want to make sure that we're
1:14:07fair to our community and fair to every
1:14:09sport that wants to use it. You know, if
1:14:11they're coming in with everything that
1:14:12pickleball has, there's no reason why we
1:14:14cannot allow the other in the the other
1:14:17teams to be able to do it. And that's my
1:14:18only message. I don't want to put
1:14:19barriers for that either because I can
1:14:22hear it back here. It's I'm all the time
1:14:23hearing it. You guys the city only gives
1:14:25this gives it to them. And the city only
1:14:27I mean, I went to a lunch the other day
1:14:29and that's that was my conversation with
1:14:31with some of the coaches is I mean,
1:14:32you're on council and you guys don't do
1:14:34nothing about it. I'm like, "Well, I'll
1:14:36bring it up." And
1:14:37>> And I said I can work towards it and
1:14:39make sure that we're fair on everybody.
1:14:41But, you know, a lot of people get upset
1:14:43at me because I'm not giving them the
1:14:44hours they want. Well, and that's and
1:14:46that's fine with me.
1:14:47>> And that's the thing, Victor. We we
1:14:49can't bend to just any hours. This is
1:14:51what we have available. If you want it,
1:14:53this is what we can do. You can also
1:14:55I understand you cannot bend to
1:14:57everyone, but you can also allocate the
1:14:59days. This is the time that we have and
1:15:01this is the time that's open and this is
1:15:03what we have. And that's all.
1:15:04>> Okay.
1:15:04>> You know, if they're open for it, then
1:15:06they can If not, then hey hey, we
1:15:08allocated it, we opened it and this is
1:15:09what we did. You know, at least we
1:15:11didn't exclude them. We offered it to
1:15:13them and that's all we can do.
1:15:14>> Yeah.
1:15:15>> I know. I'll get that going on tomorrow.
1:15:16>> And talk to them, "Hey, this is what we
1:15:18need from them. You want to pay for the
1:15:20insurance? This is what everything is.
1:15:21Bring me the documentation, we'll open
1:15:23it up and be ready with it."
1:15:24>> Are all of them paper applications or
1:15:26are they like online?
1:15:27>> No, they're paper ones. They're paper
1:15:28applications. Right now, what we're
1:15:30working to get it onto OpenGov, but it
1:15:32is
1:15:33a slow process.
1:15:34>> So, when can we say that we're we're
1:15:36going to be open for that?
1:15:37>> I will make sure it's open by the end of
1:15:39the month.
1:15:40Or no, you know what? I'm I'll make it a
1:15:42priority. I'll give me give me a couple
1:15:44weeks.
1:15:45Give me 2 weeks. By next that this
1:15:47Friday, next Friday, I should get
1:15:49everything ready and we will have dates
1:15:52and times.
1:15:53>> And you don't want one thing that we can
1:15:54also say is it's not that we're picking
1:15:56and choosing. The thing about it is say
1:15:58hey, this is what we can allocate. That
1:16:00if you have a team that wants to rent it
1:16:02for this time, this is what we can do.
1:16:05You know what I mean?
1:16:05>> Yeah, cuz you do soccer and put a age
1:16:08limit in there. You can do basketball,
1:16:10put a age limit in it. And men, women,
1:16:13boys, girls.
1:16:15>> And if you see that there's And if you
1:16:17see that there's some hours that that
1:16:19are open, say we have these hours that
1:16:21are open, but we also
1:16:23The thing about it is we have to be able
1:16:24to put a schedule out of hours that we
1:16:27have available where we can allocate.
1:16:29Now, the only thing that I that I ask is
1:16:31not let a team just rent the whole thing
1:16:34for the whole time because that
1:16:36That defeats the purpose of having a
1:16:37team.
1:16:37>> that's what I tried last time and
1:16:40and I understand that and I did try that
1:16:42last last time and like I said,
1:16:45>> That was my issue with me of running
1:16:47when I ran for council. I said, you know
1:16:49what? I was practicing when I was
1:16:51volunteering, I was practicing on those
1:16:53tennis courts. I don't know how it
1:16:54feels.
1:16:54>> No, I know.
1:16:55>> It was wet, it was cold and I'm like,
1:16:57man, that
1:16:58building is closed. So, I know I can
1:17:00empathize with the coaches.
1:17:01>> So, I I mean, I empathize with them also
1:17:03and I and I will like I said, give me 2
1:17:06weeks and then I'll have this stuff set
1:17:07up.
1:17:08>> And then the fee will be, you know, make
1:17:10it equal.
1:17:11>> Yeah, make it equal. Say hey, you know
1:17:12what? This is what we're charging per
1:17:13team take charge of per team or charging
1:17:14per per head, whatever it is. Hey, how
1:17:16many kids you have in your team? 14
1:17:18kids? Okay, well this is how much we're
1:17:19going to charge you.
1:17:19>> Well, you know, we'll just
1:17:20>> Well, this is how much the team is going
1:17:22to cost.
1:17:24>> Yeah.
1:17:24>> So, do we want I mean, as a committee,
1:17:27do we want to charge team or head?
1:17:29>> Thomas.
1:17:30>> Oh, sorry.
1:17:31>> She just hit me.
1:17:35She voted with the council members.
1:17:36>> Yeah, I'm sorry. I'm sorry.
1:17:39>> You know, this amount of kids, this
1:17:40much. This amount of kids for this much.
1:17:42>> I have that right on my computer, corn
1:17:43border. Yeah.
1:17:44>> No, I I think your best bet is to go
1:17:46down and talk to the school district and
1:17:48because it's all done already.
1:17:49>> Yeah. Well, yeah. Well.
1:17:51>> If you wanted to rent
1:17:53you know, any of their facilities,
1:17:55you go in there and that's how they do
1:17:56it.
1:17:57>> I know groups they get together as
1:17:59coaches and everybody like
1:18:01>> Yeah, and then it's
1:18:03>> themselves.
1:18:04>> So, why would
1:18:04>> I think they are bad groups.
1:18:06>> You have the same situation here.
1:18:08Only we have more time slots than the
1:18:12school because
1:18:13>> You don't have
1:18:14multiple schools, yeah.
1:18:15>> Mhm. You don't have somebody
1:18:17>> I I will I will be talking to them
1:18:18tomorrow. I said they give me till not
1:18:20this Friday, but the following Friday
1:18:21I'll have to do that.
1:18:22>> And put some strict regulations on them.
1:18:23Strict guidelines saying, you know what?
1:18:25If you rented by let's say 6:00, you
1:18:27know what? You need to be out till by
1:18:296:00. Or you know, or you're going to
1:18:31get charged for that next hour. So, you
1:18:33you start putting some regulations on
1:18:35them.
1:18:35>> And those guys that happen
1:18:36>> You know, if you go and talk to the
1:18:37guards and he'll he'll put it on the
1:18:38right path to
1:18:40who to speak with. But he's like the
1:18:42black jacket up there and
1:18:43>> Yeah. No, I'll be talking to him
1:18:44tomorrow.
1:18:44>> he'll take care of a lot of problems for
1:18:45you and he'll he'll speed this up for
1:18:47you because
1:18:49we should be able to just say, you know,
1:18:51you keep talking about pickleball and
1:18:53what generation is that? No wonder they
1:18:55can afford the insurance. They can pay a
1:18:57lot more than two bucks.
1:18:59And, you know, they're out there. They
1:19:01meet all the time. I mean
1:19:03>> No.
1:19:04>> It's an off season. I'll work on it.
1:19:06>> Yeah.
1:19:06>> Yeah, I just you know, and
1:19:09You don't have to
1:19:10You don't have to
1:19:12do this this or these guys or these guys
1:19:14or these guys. You set up a schedule and
1:19:16say this is when this is available.
1:19:18Take it or leave it.
1:19:19>> Yep.
1:19:19>> Or you use the lottery system every two
1:19:21weeks.
1:19:22>> Yeah.
1:19:22>> Yeah.
1:19:23>> We got to figure out and just say, hey,
1:19:25you know what? Bring it out where hey,
1:19:26we want to be to we want to be equal to
1:19:28all, you know, all the teams, all
1:19:30everybody in our community.
1:19:31>> community schedule
1:19:32>> This is the schedule. This is laid out.
1:19:34This is what we have. That's it. You
1:19:36know, I Hey, somebody already took that
1:19:38spot. I'm sorry. That's how that works.
1:19:39>> Raise your prices up there where, you
1:19:41know,
1:19:43Raise your prices up there because
1:19:45these people can afford it.
1:19:46>> For pickleball?
1:19:47>> Yeah.
1:19:48>> That's what I was telling Hector. Maybe
1:19:49we should find out what other cities
1:19:51like Yakima, old places, what they're
1:19:54charging for pickleball.
1:19:59>> As you can see that.
1:20:00But
1:20:01>> Yeah, you could ask Teresa and probably
1:20:03get some really good answers and some
1:20:05guidance on because, you know,
1:20:07that's their setup is pretty good and
1:20:10and it's like if you're not going to be
1:20:12using it,
1:20:13then call because we'll we'll take it
1:20:16off. It's like getting your hair cut.
1:20:18You need
1:20:19You go down there and you say, "Okay,
1:20:20well,"
1:20:21she whips out this book and says, "Okay,
1:20:23it's so I have an opening on Friday
1:20:25morning."
1:20:26Okay, so I'm going to say, "No, I want
1:20:28it today at 2:00.""Well, I'm sorry.
1:20:32You can't have what you want all the
1:20:33time."
1:20:33>> Yeah.
1:20:35>> I just want it open.
1:20:36>> Yeah.
1:20:39>> I I I think we're treating everybody
1:20:41equally. That's just what I what we're
1:20:43doing. I think as a whole, I think
1:20:45that's what that's what our priority
1:20:46should be to everybody.
1:20:47>> All right.
1:20:48>> I know you're getting it started. I can
1:20:50I can probably work down there for the
1:20:51right price.
1:20:53>> For the 70,000?
1:20:55>> I keep saying that and I think, "Wow, I
1:20:57don't have to pay it."
1:20:58>> Well, that was a couple years ago, so
1:21:03>> You can only pay it a 2-day
1:21:05you know, 2-day minimum on the court for
1:21:07court.
1:21:07>> You know, Hector,
1:21:08you know, Hector, thank you for helping
1:21:09us out with this. I know that sometimes
1:21:11I you I I I don't want you to feel that
1:21:13pressure, but at the
1:21:14at the same time, is who else do we talk
1:21:16to about it?
1:21:17>> That's what I'm here for.
1:21:20That Hector, that's everybody calls him.
1:21:21>> And maybe we should meet next month
1:21:23because then
1:21:25you'll have this hopefully in place
1:21:28and then we'll have
1:21:29>> Or we can do email, too.
1:21:31>> I think email
1:21:32>> We can do that.
1:21:35>> So, maybe
1:21:36>> Yeah, I'll get my calendar out.
1:21:38>> You want to talk to Maxwell. He's the
1:21:39one to doing.
1:21:40He's he's the big boss. You know, we can
1:21:42skip everybody else and talk to Max.
1:21:43>> Max can get in there.
1:21:44>> Yeah. Oh, he can get in there.
1:21:46>> Oh, he can get in there.
1:21:46>> Yeah, he'll show you where his office
1:21:47is.
1:21:48>> So, we're coming back in January?
1:21:50>> Park parts getting
1:21:51>> Yeah, we can go We can come back in
1:21:52January.
1:21:53>> I was going to say, I don't know if
1:21:53Maxwell's in. He I think he tore his ACL
1:21:57or something cuz he was playing at the
1:21:59basketball at the Wounded Warrior.
1:22:02>> At the community center?
1:22:03>> No.
1:22:05>> At the high school. I went to the school
1:22:07board meeting and he was in crutches and
1:22:09he was in pain, so he was there.
1:22:10>> Well, get over it.
1:22:14>> With them. I mean, your guys'budget
1:22:15stuff coming up
1:22:17from the park side, from us. I mean, are
1:22:20we just going to watch the city council
1:22:23and listen to what
1:22:25he used for said?
1:22:26I mean, I know right now we're back, but
1:22:29>> You're not important.
1:22:30>> Do you I mean, what do we do? I mean,
1:22:33you put in a request even though
1:22:36um you know, from the budgetary year. Do
1:22:38you put in okay, we allocated this,
1:22:40this, and this, and this?
1:22:42Are we
1:22:43>> So, right now
1:22:45um
1:22:46Mr.
1:22:47>> Mike
1:22:48>> Mike Mr. Bailey is working on that. I
1:22:51need to get something in right now. And
1:22:53that's
1:22:54that's the vote that the council has to
1:22:55make. Um I have my stuff already set up
1:22:59that once
1:23:01everything is voted for, and we have
1:23:04some numbers, and then I am I do have a
1:23:07line item numbers that I will be putting
1:23:09in there. I have line items number four
1:23:12my water department, my sewer
1:23:13department, storm, streets, and parks.
1:23:16I'm allocating so much money for this,
1:23:18but there's certain thresholds I have to
1:23:20stay within. Um
1:23:23with that being said, once I get all
1:23:26that taken care of,
1:23:27I'd be more than happy to bring the
1:23:29parks committee my parks budget. And to
1:23:31show you guys what I allocated for it,
1:23:33how much
1:23:34how we're going to move forward.
1:23:35>> That'd be nice.
1:23:36>> Okay?
1:23:38>> I just asked the council to remember the
1:23:40nonprofits. We know they're going to
1:23:42come and ask in summertime for discounts
1:23:46or or
1:23:47>> So we're working on that, too. That's
1:23:48that's the other part
1:23:50>> I wrote that down for this year.
1:23:52>> Yes.
1:23:53>> What are non-profits?
1:23:57>> Well, all those volunteers.
1:23:58>> Yeah, that's what we are.
1:24:00>> Yeah, but y'all get a statement. So I
1:24:03mean you
1:24:04you get you get a
1:24:06Yeah, there you go.
1:24:08>> But we got to understand that means our
1:24:11budget is going to be not entirely
1:24:12either.
1:24:13So we have we got to keep that in
1:24:15consideration, too, with the non-profit
1:24:17that we're working on.
1:24:19Because we do lose a lot we lose a lot
1:24:21of money.
1:24:22>> Some of them are non-profits.
1:24:23>> Yeah, but you get a statement because
1:24:25for the community, you
1:24:26>> I think all non-profits should pay like
1:24:28a an impact fee of at least minimum of
1:24:312%.
1:24:32>> Does anybody else have anything else?
1:24:35>> It's not Elfa.
1:24:36>> No, I don't have it.
1:24:38>> Okay. Hopefully everybody's good.
1:24:41Um we can adjourn this meeting
1:24:44at
1:24:45>> 5:56
1:24:46>> Not 7:00.
1:24:47>> Are you just going to email us the next
1:24:51meeting or are we scheduling one?
1:24:53>> I think so. Miranda will will Miranda
1:24:55and I will sit down and we'll get it
1:24:56sent out in an email.
1:24:58>> Okay. Thank you.
1:24:59>> Yep.
1:25:00>> We we correct it.
1:25:01>> Thank you guys. Appreciate it.
1:25:03>> Monday.
1:25:03>> And even though I'm not on this
1:25:05committee, I'd be happy to come and
1:25:06complain anytime.
1:25:09>> So thank you everyone. Appreciate it.
1:25:15I'll give it a try on that.
1:25:18>> Yeah, you too.

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