10 Rules of Buying a New Car Without Getting Screwed — Transcript
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- 0:00Buying a car is not just a consumer
- 0:03choice. It's a high lever financial
- 0:05decision that echoes through your
- 0:07budget, your net worth, and your mental
- 0:09bandwidth for years. The average car
- 0:12loan now stretches beyond 70 months. And
- 0:16for many household, it's their second
- 0:17largest expense after housing. So, this
- 0:20isn't just about driving. It's about
- 0:22designing the next 5 years of your
- 0:25financial
- 0:26life. Hello friends, this is Tyler
- 0:29Gardner. welcoming you to another
- 0:30episode of your money guide on the side
- 0:33where it is my job to simplify what
- 0:35seems complex, add nuance to what seems
- 0:37simple, and learn from and alongside
- 0:40some of the brightest minds in money,
- 0:42finance, and investing. So, let's get
- 0:44started and get you one step closer to
- 0:47where you need to be.
- 0:49Today's episode focuses on something
- 0:51that impacts almost every single one of
- 0:54us at some point in our lives. The
- 0:57buying or leasing of a car and how if we
- 1:01don't understand the money and power
- 1:03languages of buying or leasing said car,
- 1:07we will bluntly get screwed. This
- 1:11episode will help you take back the
- 1:12power and learn the financial language
- 1:15that you need to know. But let's get
- 1:18something straight right from the start.
- 1:20This is not one of those episodes from
- 1:22another financial boomer voice where I
- 1:25tell you that you'd be a ding-dong to
- 1:27buy or lease a brand new car. I'm not
- 1:30here to guilt you into endlessly sifting
- 1:33through sketchy ads on Craigslist posted
- 1:35by user 263 Hemi for life or to pretend
- 1:39you should be thrilled driving a
- 1:4112-year-old Civic with no backup camera
- 1:43and three hubcaps. Personally, I love
- 1:47cars. Specifically, I love new cars. And
- 1:52because I myself am a fickle ding-dong,
- 1:55I love leasing new cars. I know, I hear
- 1:59you all saying this guy can't possibly
- 2:01be a financial voice who has any
- 2:04understanding of how finance works, but
- 2:06I'm just letting you know in advance,
- 2:07I've spent real money on cars, and I
- 2:10enjoy them thoroughly. Not because it's
- 2:13the mathematically perfect financial
- 2:15move, but because it genuinely brings me
- 2:19joy. Every time I drive a car I love, I
- 2:22feel better than when I am not driving a
- 2:25car I love. Even though I know this is
- 2:28personal finance sacrilege, including
- 2:30but not limited to how I'm about to
- 2:32present this. I believe buying a car or
- 2:37even leasing a car is a type of
- 2:40investment. It is an investment in my
- 2:43experience. I drive every day. I travel.
- 2:47I take meetings on the road. I take my
- 2:50dogs on car rides just for fun to get
- 2:53them out of the house. And driving a car
- 2:55that is quiet, reliable, and let's be
- 2:58honest, a little fun and maybe even
- 3:01fast. Well, that improves my quality of
- 3:04life in a way that no spreadsheet can
- 3:06fully explain. It is also one of the
- 3:08only things in life that I've decided to
- 3:10spend real money on, so I can usually
- 3:13get away with it without entirely
- 3:15breaking the bank. So, it should be
- 3:16clear, this episode is not about talking
- 3:18you out of buying or leasing a new car.
- 3:22It's about making sure you buy it or
- 3:24lease it the right way with the right
- 3:28knowledge, with strategy, not emotion.
- 3:32Because if you're going to spend real
- 3:34money on something that depreciates, aka
- 3:37not an investment, even though I just
- 3:38said it was, you owe it to yourself to
- 3:41make sure you don't get taken for a ride
- 3:44in the process. And before we jump in to
- 3:47the 10 rules that I have created to help
- 3:49you always get the most bang for your
- 3:51buck at the dealership and to understand
- 3:53all of their endless jargon and
- 3:55nonsense, I have one small favor to ask
- 3:58of you today. If you've been enjoying
- 4:00the show, it would mean a lot to me if
- 4:03you left a quick review. These reviews
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- 4:08this endeavor 100% worthwhile. And if
- 4:11there's something you're not loving
- 4:13about the show or you'd like to see more
- 4:15of, please and always feel free to shoot
- 4:18me a note directly at
- 4:20[email protected].
- 4:23I read every message, even if I can't
- 4:25reply to all of them, and I internalize
- 4:28the feedback quickly. Remember, this
- 4:31show is for you. So, let's make it as
- 4:34great as we can
- 4:35together. Buying a car should feel
- 4:38exciting. For most people, it marks a
- 4:41fresh start, whether you just got a new
- 4:43job, you're growing a family, or you're
- 4:45splurging on a well-earned upgrade. But
- 4:48what should be a straightforward
- 4:50transaction, as all too many of us know,
- 4:53has quietly, well, loudly, become one of
- 4:56the most financially dangerous moments
- 4:58in modern consumer life. According to
- 5:01Kelly Blue Book, the average price of a
- 5:03new car in the US reached
- 5:06$47,000 in 2024. That's not a splurge.
- 5:10That's a down payment on a home, a year
- 5:12of college, or 10 years of compound
- 5:14interest gone in one whimsical
- 5:17afternoon. And it's not just the sticker
- 5:19shock that gets you. It's the back-end
- 5:22financing, the upsells, the
- 5:24depreciation, the insurance products,
- 5:27and the fine print that is designed to
- 5:30make you feel like you're getting a deal
- 5:31when you're actually giving one away.
- 5:34Today's episode is your defense plan.
- 5:37And as always, I have done my best to
- 5:39make this episode about the timeless
- 5:41principles that will be as true today as
- 5:44they will be in 10 years. We'll walk
- 5:46through the 10 most common traps and
- 5:49slip ups people make when buying or
- 5:51leasing a new car and how to avoid every
- 5:55single one of them. From financing hacks
- 5:58to timing strategies to what never to
- 6:01say when you're actually on a dealership
- 6:02lot. This is your guide to walking in
- 6:05prepared and walking out without
- 6:08regrets. Because in a game this
- 6:10expensive, the winner isn't the one with
- 6:12the nicest car. It's the one who didn't
- 6:15get screwed. So, without further ado,
- 6:18the 10 rules of car buying or leasing
- 6:21according to well, me, Tyler, your money
- 6:24guide on the
- 6:25side. Rule number one, never go to a
- 6:30dealership. Email, email, email. The
- 6:35moment you physically step onto a
- 6:37dealership lot, the power dynamic shifts
- 6:41drastically. They have done this
- 6:43thousands of times. You haven't. The
- 6:46salesperson is trained to build rapport,
- 6:49guide the conversation, and keep you at
- 6:51the dealership until you have been
- 6:53grounded down to a fine mess of
- 6:55impatience and anger until you're so
- 6:58ready to leave that you will buy
- 7:00anything they offer at any price just to
- 7:02get your license and keys back. Trust
- 7:04me, I've done that. That's why, without
- 7:08a doubt, and if you learn nothing else
- 7:10from this episode, the smartest way to
- 7:12buy a car starts by not going to a
- 7:15dealership, but by emailing several
- 7:19dealerships. Why? Because email flips
- 7:22the power dynamic. It removes pressure,
- 7:25buys you time, and most importantly,
- 7:28creates a paper trail. You want
- 7:31everything from the start in writing.
- 7:34the VIN number, the out the-do price,
- 7:38that's including taxes, tags, and fees,
- 7:41any applicable rebates, and the exact
- 7:45financing terms. This isn't just about
- 7:47transparency. It's about leverage. When
- 7:50it's in writing, they can't wiggle the
- 7:53numbers later once you get to the
- 7:55dealership. And here's the real
- 7:57advantage. Email lets you shop multiple
- 8:00dealers against each other without
- 8:02driving all over town or falling for one
- 8:05hard cell. Here is the template of the
- 8:08message you are going to send to as many
- 8:11dealers as you'd like. Hello, I'm
- 8:14comparing pricing across local
- 8:17dealerships for insert the exact make
- 8:20and model you'd like. If you can beat
- 8:23this price or offer better terms, please
- 8:25let me know and I will look forward to
- 8:27working with you. Dealers will respond
- 8:31to this type of message. And their
- 8:33response will most likely always be,
- 8:36"Well, hello. We would love to share our
- 8:38prices with you and we think you will be
- 8:40really happy with them. When can you
- 8:42come in to set up a meeting and
- 8:44discuss?" Nope. email back and make it
- 8:48clear that you're not coming in and this
- 8:50is a transaction that will begin and end
- 8:54via email and via paper trail. And if
- 8:57they tell you they don't quote over
- 8:59email, A, that's not true. B, that's not
- 9:03your dealership. Oh yeah, and C, they
- 9:05lost your business. Trust me, I bought
- 9:07my last three cars by doing this. And
- 9:10though many dealerships pretend they
- 9:11won't do this over email, yes, they will
- 9:14and the good ones do. Those are the ones
- 9:17that got my business and hence
- 9:19eliminated all negotiation nonsense when
- 9:21I went to get the car. The competition
- 9:25for your business alone gives you the
- 9:27upper hand. You're no longer the lone
- 9:29buyer walking into their territory. You
- 9:32are now the informed customer, playing
- 9:34them against one another from a position
- 9:36of strength and from a position of
- 9:38emotional detachment, which will always
- 9:41be a good thing when we're making
- 9:43financial
- 9:44decisions. Rule number two, never talk
- 9:49monthly payments. This is the oldest
- 9:52trick in the dealership playbook. Get
- 9:54you and keep you focused on the monthly
- 9:57payment and they control the rest of the
- 10:00math. As I've said in some of my content
- 10:02before, if you were to give me 2 minutes
- 10:04and a financial calculator, I'll have
- 10:07you out the door paying $1 a month for
- 10:09whatever car you want, and I'll still
- 10:13find a way to win because the monthly
- 10:15payment means nothing. And that's too
- 10:18bad because most of us don't walk into a
- 10:20dealership saying, "I want to pay
- 10:23$37,800 for that car." We walk in
- 10:26saying, "I can afford $600 a month." And
- 10:30that's exactly what we end up sharing
- 10:32with the salesman first. And it's
- 10:34exactly how we end up
- 10:36overpaying. According to the Consumer
- 10:38Financial Protection Bureau, dealerships
- 10:41frequently manipulate loan structures to
- 10:43lower the monthly payment while
- 10:44inflating the overall cost through
- 10:46extended loan terms, hidden fees, or
- 10:50padded interest rates. Additionally,
- 10:52dealerships can and do lower the monthly
- 10:55payment by asking for a higher down
- 10:57payment, offering you less for your
- 10:59tradein or by asking for a higher
- 11:02residual payment at the end of the lease
- 11:04term. Let's take a quick look at the
- 11:06math. A $40,000 car at 4.9% over 60
- 11:12months costs you about 752 bucks a
- 11:16month, and you'll end up paying around
- 11:18$45,000 over the life of the loan. But
- 11:21that same car at
- 11:23$650 a month might sound like a deal
- 11:27until you realize the dealer has
- 11:29stretched it to $84 months at a higher
- 11:32rate like
- 11:34$7.9% and now you're paying over
- 11:38$54,600. That's about $9,000 in
- 11:41additional cost all for a lower monthly
- 11:44payment. And that's literally just
- 11:47scratching the surface of ways to get
- 11:48the monthly down. This is why you will
- 11:52always hear car dealers with the
- 11:55following question. What are you looking
- 11:58or able to spend a month? The second you
- 12:01say that number, they win, you lose. And
- 12:04dealers love this model. The longer the
- 12:07term, the more interest they earn and
- 12:10the easier it is to get you to say yes.
- 12:12But you're not buying a payment plan.
- 12:15you're buying a car. Remember, a payment
- 12:18plan is just a delivery method. Your job
- 12:21is to make sure the product itself isn't
- 12:24overpriced. So, keep your eyes on the
- 12:26total number, not the monthly illusion.
- 12:30Rule number three, just say no once
- 12:35you're in the finance room. So, you
- 12:38think the negotiation is over once you
- 12:41agree on the out the-do price. Well, it
- 12:44isn't. It just moves into a different
- 12:46room. One with lower lighting, fewer
- 12:50windows, and a job title you didn't
- 12:53expect. F and I, or finance and
- 12:57insurance. And hint, there's a reason
- 13:00that the finance folks at dealerships
- 13:02are often paid more than anybody else.
- 13:05This is where dealerships make their
- 13:07real money. Not off the car, but off of
- 13:11you and your fear. Once your guard is
- 13:15down and you believe the negotiation is
- 13:18over. According to the National
- 13:20Automobile Dealers Association, FNI
- 13:22products now account for over 25% of
- 13:25total dealership gross profits. That's
- 13:28not a side hustle. That's their business
- 13:31model. And you're getting taken. Here's
- 13:33how it plays out. You're tired, you
- 13:36know, because you made the mistake of
- 13:37going to the dealership, and now you've
- 13:39been there for 6 and 1/2 hours. You've
- 13:41test-driven the car, negotiated the
- 13:43price, maybe even celebrated a bit
- 13:45because you finally locked in a number.
- 13:48Then the finance manager starts sliding
- 13:50papers with small text across the desk.
- 13:52Extended warranties, gap insurance,
- 13:56paint protection plans, theft
- 13:59deterrence, key replacements, vin
- 14:01etching, all sold with urgency and fear
- 14:05tactics. If you think I'm kidding, just
- 14:07say no immediately and see how quickly
- 14:10they try to convince you that you're
- 14:12making the biggest financial mistake of
- 14:14your life and are going to total your
- 14:15brand new car on the way out of the lot.
- 14:18This has happened to me multiple times.
- 14:21Suddenly, your $40,000 car is $44,000
- 14:24and climbing. You've walked into a
- 14:27coffee shop, bought a $4 drink, and left
- 14:29with a
- 14:30$1,200 mug. And note, if you truly want
- 14:34gap insurance, which is the insurance
- 14:36that covers the difference between what
- 14:38you owe and what your car is worth if
- 14:41totaled, which yes, can be a decentsiz
- 14:44gap due to the immediate depreciation of
- 14:46the vehicle when you drive off that lot.
- 14:49Check with your autoinsurer first.
- 14:52Geico, Progressive, State Farm, those
- 14:55companies will often offer gap insurance
- 14:58for a fraction of what the dealer will
- 15:00charge. But they know most people don't
- 15:02go in that prepared. The rule here is
- 15:05simple. If you didn't plan to buy it
- 15:06before you walked in, you don't need to
- 15:09buy it now. Say no clearly and
- 15:12repeatedly. And you're not being rude,
- 15:14even though they will make you think
- 15:16that you are. You're being smart. The
- 15:18FNI office isn't where you protect your
- 15:21car, it's where you need to learn to
- 15:23protect your
- 15:24wallet. Rule number four, buy a car that
- 15:29is already on the lot. Here's a little
- 15:32known truth about how dealerships
- 15:34actually work. And most people do not
- 15:36know this. Every car sitting on their
- 15:40lot is not an asset. It's a liability to
- 15:44the dealership. Because most dealers
- 15:46don't actually own their inventory. They
- 15:49finance it through what's called a floor
- 15:52plan loan, which acrus interest monthly
- 15:55that they have to pay so long as the
- 15:58cars sit on their lot. And just like you
- 16:01don't want to pay interest on your
- 16:02loans, neither do they. According to
- 16:05Automotive News and Cox Automotive,
- 16:08dealers typically pay between 1 and 2%
- 16:11in monthly interest on unsold vehicles.
- 16:14That means a $40,000 car could be
- 16:16costing them $4 to $800 a month just to
- 16:20let it sit. Think about that. When they
- 16:23say they just can't find a way to reduce
- 16:25the car's price by 500 bucks, uh, yes.
- 16:28Yes, they can. And at the right time,
- 16:30yes. Yes, they will. That ticking clock
- 16:33is your negotiating leverage. This is
- 16:36the same as buying a house that's been
- 16:38listed for months. The dealership is not
- 16:41thinking about the same profit margin
- 16:43anymore. They're thinking about how do
- 16:45we stop the bleeding. And if that car is
- 16:48already loaded with options or painted a
- 16:50less popular color, even better. You're
- 16:53their chance to move stale and pricey
- 16:55inventory. So, you can start by asking
- 16:58the salesperson directly, what's been on
- 17:01your lot the longest, which VINs have
- 17:04the most aging days, and do you have any
- 17:07floor plan inventory coming up on its
- 17:1090day deadline? Again, if they're good
- 17:13folks wanting to do good business, and
- 17:15many of them are, they'll tell you
- 17:17because they want to move that
- 17:18inventory. This isn't just about price,
- 17:20it's about motivation. A freshly arrived
- 17:23customordered car has no urgency
- 17:25attached, but one that's been racking up
- 17:28carrying costs for weeks, that's a deal
- 17:30waiting to happen. Rule number five,
- 17:34bring your own financing. But be
- 17:37strategic about this one. Before you
- 17:39step into a dealership, and again, after
- 17:42you've locked in a price via email, get
- 17:45preapproved for an auto loan. It's not
- 17:47just about locking in a good rate. It's
- 17:49about walking into the dealership with
- 17:52leverage. Without preapproval, you're
- 17:54flying blind. Whereas with one, you've
- 17:57set a benchmark and you've done what we
- 18:00need to continue to do by changing the
- 18:02power dynamic. You could start by trying
- 18:05your local credit union or a reputable
- 18:07online lender. According to bank rates
- 18:10auto loan rate tables 2024 credit unions
- 18:13consistently offer interest rates that
- 18:16could be 1 to two percentage points
- 18:18lower than national banks and dealer
- 18:20arranged financing. And here's the quick
- 18:23math for you to consider. On a $40,000
- 18:25loan, the difference between 5 12% and
- 18:287% over 5 years could mean saving 1,200
- 18:31bucks in just interest. That's just for
- 18:34showing up with your own financing. But
- 18:36here's one interesting and nuanced
- 18:39twist. Once you have that preapproval in
- 18:42hand, let the dealer try to beat it. Why
- 18:44not? It's not a trap, it's a tactic.
- 18:47Dealers have access to very captive
- 18:50lenders like Honda Financial or Toyota
- 18:53Financial. And sometimes they're given
- 18:55incentive money from the manufacturer to
- 18:58secure financing inhouse. I once had a
- 19:01dealer ask me straight up if they could
- 19:04beat my 3 and 12% financing, would I
- 19:07finance with them? I said, "Yeah, of
- 19:09course." And they offered 2.9%. And off
- 19:12I went with my new Subaru WRX when I was
- 19:14going through my I wish I was 16 again
- 19:16phase. I told you I love cars. I just
- 19:20felt a little odd in that one at 27
- 19:22years old. If the dealer knows they have
- 19:24to beat your preapproval to earn your
- 19:26business, they might lower the rate,
- 19:28knock money off the car, or throw in at
- 19:31least a couple extras just to win the
- 19:33deal. You've taken what was once their
- 19:36leverage and you've turned it into your
- 19:38own. One key here is to separate the car
- 19:42price from the financing conversation.
- 19:45Lock down the out the-do price first,
- 19:48then talk about how you're going to pay.
- 19:51Whether you go with your preapproval or
- 19:53the dealer's offer, you win either way
- 19:56because you controlled the terms. Rule
- 19:59number six, do the depreciation math.
- 20:04Now, here's where we get into some more
- 20:06of the emotional components behind
- 20:08buying a vehicle. Most people don't buy
- 20:10a car. They buy a feeling. that fresh
- 20:13offthe- smell, the untouched seats, the
- 20:17upgraded trim package. Trust me, I get
- 20:20it because I do it every 3 years. And
- 20:22while that's fine in theory, it comes at
- 20:25a steep, often invisible cost,
- 20:29depreciation. Remember, even though I'm
- 20:32defining the buying or leasing of a car
- 20:34as an investment in experience, it is
- 20:36not, by traditional financial language,
- 20:40in investment because it depreciates
- 20:42immensely the second you drive off the
- 20:44lot. Sometimes as much as 20% in the
- 20:47first year and up to 60% in the first 5
- 20:51years. So, what does that mean in real
- 20:53numbers? A $50,000 SUV might be worth
- 20:56just 20,000 bucks 5 years later, even if
- 20:59you've taken great care of it. That's
- 21:01$30,000 in evaporated asset value. And
- 21:05most buyers never see it coming. They're
- 21:07too focused on the monthly payment, the
- 21:10color, or whether Apple CarPlay comes
- 21:12standard. So, just ask yourself this.
- 21:15Would you invest
- 21:16$50,000 into something guaranteed to be
- 21:20worth $20,000 in 5 years? and if so,
- 21:24what would make it worth it? Now, this
- 21:27also doesn't mean new cars are always a
- 21:29bad deal. Sometimes they make a lot of
- 21:32sense for people. You get a full factory
- 21:34warranty, predictable reliability, and
- 21:37immediate availability of whatever
- 21:39vehicle you might want, especially in
- 21:41tight supply years. If those things
- 21:43matter to you, great. Spending money
- 21:47anytime and always is about values, not
- 21:51dollars. Find what you value, name what
- 21:54you value, spend the money accordingly,
- 21:56or you're going to die with it. So, one
- 21:58strategy is you could look for nearly
- 22:00new models, cars that are 1 or 2 years
- 22:02old with low mileage and clean history.
- 22:05That way, someone else has taken the
- 22:08biggest appreciation hit, and you still
- 22:11get many of the benefits of a relatively
- 22:13new car. That's why most finance experts
- 22:15will tell you that the sweet spot is a
- 22:18three-year-old car that still runs well
- 22:20and has low
- 22:21mileage. Rule number seven, this is a
- 22:25big one. Separate deals always. Because
- 22:30here's one of the biggest mistakes
- 22:31buyers make. Walking into a dealership
- 22:35and saying proudly, "I'm buying a new
- 22:38car. I'm trading in my old one and I
- 22:41need financing." Well, congratulations.
- 22:44You've just handed them control of three
- 22:47profit centers at once. The smarter
- 22:50move, separate every deal completely.
- 22:54We've already been over the importance
- 22:56of starting first and always from
- 22:58negotiating the out the-do price of the
- 23:01new car. That's the full amount,
- 23:03including taxes, tags, and fees. And
- 23:06again, we do that via email. We get it
- 23:09in writing and we lock it in. Now, even
- 23:12via email, do not do not do not mention
- 23:19you have a trade-in. Why? Because just
- 23:22as we saw with ways they can screw you
- 23:24by focusing on monthly payments, if they
- 23:27know you're trading in, they can and
- 23:29often do inflate the value of your car
- 23:33to make you feel good and proud while
- 23:36quietly patting the price of the one
- 23:38you're buying. or worse, they'll lowball
- 23:41your trade completely and act like they
- 23:43gave you a deal elsewhere. It's
- 23:46literally shell game math and you lose
- 23:50every single time. So, we want to start
- 23:52by focusing on one shell at a time. Once
- 23:56you have the OTD price locked in, then
- 24:00go get your financing quote and then
- 24:03finally, if you want, bring up the
- 24:05tradein. This isn't some dink move on
- 24:07your part. It's as crucial as PEMDOS was
- 24:10to your order of operations in high
- 24:12school or middle school math. I don't
- 24:15know how smart you are. Whenever you
- 24:16PEMD dosed last. And what most people
- 24:19miss is you don't have to sell your used
- 24:22car to the dealership. The dealership
- 24:25knows that most people do prefer the
- 24:27ease of offloading the car immediately
- 24:30so that someone else has to deal with it
- 24:32and they capitalize on that. Often,
- 24:35however, you'll get a much better deal
- 24:37selling privately or through a platform
- 24:39like CarMax or Carvana. Even if you do
- 24:42trade it into the dealer, coming in late
- 24:45with that information gives you an edge.
- 24:48It's no longer part of the main
- 24:50negotiation. It's an afterthought you
- 24:52can use to your advantage. And if you
- 24:54ever want to see how true this is, just
- 24:56realize how few dealerships will
- 24:58actually purchase your used car after
- 25:01you've already locked in an out the door
- 25:02price. they no longer have as much of an
- 25:04incentive to do so. Remember,
- 25:06dealerships make money by bundling many
- 25:09deals together. You protect yourself by
- 25:12breaking them
- 25:14apart. Rule number eight, or should I
- 25:17say myth on this one. The myth is that
- 25:22leasing is the worst thing you could
- 25:23ever do with your money. I'm going to
- 25:25show you why leasing can be fine so long
- 25:28as you speak the language. Leasing gets
- 25:31a bad rap in personal finance circles
- 25:33and often for good reason. It's easy to
- 25:36get into, harder to understand, and
- 25:39downright punishing if you break the
- 25:41rules. But if you're the right kind of
- 25:43driver and you understand the math,
- 25:45leasing can actually be a smart
- 25:48financial move. Here's when leasing
- 25:51makes sense. You actually drive fewer
- 25:54than 12,000 m per year. You like driving
- 25:57a new car every 2 to 3 years. That's me
- 26:01and I prefer the nocost exchange at the
- 26:03end of the term versus the hassle of
- 26:05buying and selling a car every few
- 26:07years. Or you're using the car for
- 26:09business and can write off the lease on
- 26:11your taxes. In these cases, leasing can
- 26:15give you predictable costs, full
- 26:17warranty coverage, and no long-term
- 26:19ownership headaches. But you need to
- 26:22speak the language. And here are three
- 26:24terms that you need to know, and most
- 26:26people don't. One, the capitalized cost.
- 26:29It's the sale price of the car. They
- 26:31just call it something different. You
- 26:33can negotiate this just like a purchase,
- 26:36and you should. Number two, the residual
- 26:40value. This is big for leasing. This is
- 26:42what the car is expected to be worth at
- 26:45the lease end. It's what I would pay if
- 26:47I wanted to buy it at the end of the
- 26:49lease. The higher the value is, usually
- 26:52the lower your lease payment is. And
- 26:55number three, and perhaps the most
- 26:57important to me that really most people
- 26:58don't understand, money factor. This is
- 27:02where they get most people. Why on earth
- 27:04do they use language like this? I'd like
- 27:06to say I don't know, but I do know
- 27:08because it's the same in finance to
- 27:10confuse you into making costly mistakes.
- 27:14The money factor is the leases interest
- 27:17rate expressed in pure gibberish. to
- 27:21convert it to an APR, you multiply it by
- 27:242400. So, if you're staring at a money
- 27:26factor of
- 27:280.0025, that's a 6% APR. Leasing, as I
- 27:32noted, isn't always a bad deal. In a
- 27:35high interest rate environment, like
- 27:37we've seen post 2022, lease deals can be
- 27:40artificially sweetened by manufacturers.
- 27:43Automakers even often subsidize leases
- 27:45through their captive finance arms like
- 27:47Toyota Financial, Ford Credit, offering
- 27:50below market money factors or inflated
- 27:54residual values. That means you can pay
- 27:57less monthly because they're eating part
- 27:59of the cost to move inventory. In
- 28:02contrast, loan rates from banks or
- 28:03credit unions might sit at 6 to 9% APR,
- 28:06making traditional financing more
- 28:08expensive. And if you're thinking of
- 28:10paying cash, that's fine. But remember,
- 28:13if the lease is already heavily
- 28:14subsidized, it might actually be cheaper
- 28:17to lease and invest the difference.
- 28:19Especially if your cash is earning 5%
- 28:21plus in a high yield savings account or
- 28:23you have a long time horizon and you're
- 28:25comfortable investing in the markets.
- 28:27Leasing isn't always a bad deal. It just
- 28:29requires real math. You need to compare
- 28:32the total cost of leasing versus the
- 28:34total cost of ownership. And I hope the
- 28:36above terms have given you a sense of
- 28:37how you can do that. Rule number nine,
- 28:41back to the emotional component. Do not
- 28:45do not do not buy a car when you need a
- 28:48car. I know that sounds very
- 28:50counterintuitive. The dealership, even
- 28:53via email, they can smell you coming if
- 28:57you are in the market for a certain car
- 28:59and only that car and you want it right
- 29:02now. The moment you let that emotion
- 29:05take control, you've lost. Urgency
- 29:08becomes your enemy and the dealer's best
- 29:10friend. The more desperate you are, the
- 29:13less they will negotiate. You'll accept
- 29:15a higher price, a worse interest rate
- 29:17just to get the vehicle you want. Again,
- 29:21it's the same in home buying. There's a
- 29:23reason if you work with a buyer's agent
- 29:25that when you go into a home showing,
- 29:27they tell you to shut your mouth. That
- 29:30is why smart car and home buyers plan
- 29:33months in advance. You remove the
- 29:36emotion. I have emails into several
- 29:39dealers right now. I told you I love
- 29:42cars. Asking them to let me know when
- 29:44they can hit a certain price on a
- 29:46certain vehicle that I want. I don't get
- 29:48a lot of bites and that's okay because I
- 29:51don't need a car right now as I still
- 29:52have a year left on my current lease.
- 29:55But if I start now, I cast a wider net
- 29:58and who knows when one dealership might
- 30:00want to move that one vehicle at a
- 30:02certain time. I will outweight them and
- 30:05I'll do it from the comfort of my own
- 30:07home. Also, keep in mind the car you
- 30:09want will always come back around. Don't
- 30:12ever let them tell you this is a limited
- 30:14offer and you'll never see this model
- 30:15again. New models roll in, incentives
- 30:18change, leases get returned. You need to
- 30:21be able to walk away if the deal is not
- 30:24right for you. And we finally made it to
- 30:27rule number 10. don't buy until they
- 30:32need to sell. We've already touched on
- 30:35the fact that cars on the lot cost the
- 30:37dealership money via interest. And you
- 30:40already know you shouldn't buy a car
- 30:42when you need one. But here's the second
- 30:44half of that equation. Wait until they
- 30:48need the sale. Dealerships don't just
- 30:50make money on cars. They make money on
- 30:53hitting certain targets. This isn't a
- 30:56myth. They do have monthly quotas. They
- 30:59do have quarterly incentives. They even
- 31:02have year-end manufacturer bonuses. And
- 31:05when they're behind on those targets,
- 31:07the pressure is on from corporate. And
- 31:09that's when real deals can actually
- 31:11appear. According to JD P's dealer
- 31:14incentive calendar 2023, the best days
- 31:16to buy a car are the following. The last
- 31:19three days of the month, the final week
- 31:22of the year. major holiday weekends like
- 31:26Memorial Day, Labor Day, Fourth of July.
- 31:29And missing those targets doesn't just
- 31:31mean less revenue for dealers. It can
- 31:34mean forfeiting tens of thousands in
- 31:36back-end bonuses. And if selling you a
- 31:39car at a break even price helps them hit
- 31:42their number, they will do it. Again,
- 31:44I've done this and it works. The key is
- 31:48don't be in a hurry. Wait until they're
- 31:51in a hurry. This is when you want to
- 31:53show up, but again, only after doing the
- 31:57homework. Start your email negotiation
- 31:59early. Gather quotes, confirm
- 32:02availability, then walk in at the end of
- 32:04the cycle with your preapproval ready
- 32:06and your trade-in kept to yourself.
- 32:09Here's a quick closing thought for you.
- 32:12Buying a car is not just a consumer
- 32:14choice. It's a high lever financial
- 32:17decision that echoes through your
- 32:19budget, your net worth, and your mental
- 32:21bandwidth for years. The average car
- 32:24loan, wait for this, now stretches
- 32:26beyond 70 months. And for many
- 32:29household, it's their second largest
- 32:31expense after housing. So, this isn't
- 32:33just about driving. It's about designing
- 32:36the next 5 years of your financial life.
- 32:39And unfortunately, for the most part,
- 32:42car dealers have maintained the power in
- 32:44this relationship because most of us
- 32:47have completely normalized always and
- 32:50forever having a car payment. So, let's
- 32:53commit to slowing down, playing the long
- 32:56game, removing the emotions, and making
- 32:59sure we learn the language. Huh, that
- 33:02sounds a lot like investing in finance,
- 33:04too. Again, I will never tell you not to
- 33:07buy a brand new car, but I will always
- 33:10encourage you to spend on what matters
- 33:12most to you and do it in a way where you
- 33:14are from start to finish in full control
- 33:19of your transactions and ultimately your
- 33:23wealth. Thanks for tuning in to your
- 33:25money guide on the side. If you enjoyed
- 33:27today's episode, be sure to visit my
- 33:29website at tylergardner.com for even
- 33:32more helpful resources and insights. And
- 33:34if you are interested in receiving some
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- 33:53official. Until next time, I'm Tyler
- 33:56Gardner, your money guide on the side.
- 33:58And I truly hope this episode got you
- 34:00one step closer to where you need to be.
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