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10 Rules of Buying a New Car Without Getting Screwed — Transcript

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  1. 0:00Buying a car is not just a consumer
  2. 0:03choice. It's a high lever financial
  3. 0:05decision that echoes through your
  4. 0:07budget, your net worth, and your mental
  5. 0:09bandwidth for years. The average car
  6. 0:12loan now stretches beyond 70 months. And
  7. 0:16for many household, it's their second
  8. 0:17largest expense after housing. So, this
  9. 0:20isn't just about driving. It's about
  10. 0:22designing the next 5 years of your
  11. 0:25financial
  12. 0:26life. Hello friends, this is Tyler
  13. 0:29Gardner. welcoming you to another
  14. 0:30episode of your money guide on the side
  15. 0:33where it is my job to simplify what
  16. 0:35seems complex, add nuance to what seems
  17. 0:37simple, and learn from and alongside
  18. 0:40some of the brightest minds in money,
  19. 0:42finance, and investing. So, let's get
  20. 0:44started and get you one step closer to
  21. 0:47where you need to be.
  22. 0:49Today's episode focuses on something
  23. 0:51that impacts almost every single one of
  24. 0:54us at some point in our lives. The
  25. 0:57buying or leasing of a car and how if we
  26. 1:01don't understand the money and power
  27. 1:03languages of buying or leasing said car,
  28. 1:07we will bluntly get screwed. This
  29. 1:11episode will help you take back the
  30. 1:12power and learn the financial language
  31. 1:15that you need to know. But let's get
  32. 1:18something straight right from the start.
  33. 1:20This is not one of those episodes from
  34. 1:22another financial boomer voice where I
  35. 1:25tell you that you'd be a ding-dong to
  36. 1:27buy or lease a brand new car. I'm not
  37. 1:30here to guilt you into endlessly sifting
  38. 1:33through sketchy ads on Craigslist posted
  39. 1:35by user 263 Hemi for life or to pretend
  40. 1:39you should be thrilled driving a
  41. 1:4112-year-old Civic with no backup camera
  42. 1:43and three hubcaps. Personally, I love
  43. 1:47cars. Specifically, I love new cars. And
  44. 1:52because I myself am a fickle ding-dong,
  45. 1:55I love leasing new cars. I know, I hear
  46. 1:59you all saying this guy can't possibly
  47. 2:01be a financial voice who has any
  48. 2:04understanding of how finance works, but
  49. 2:06I'm just letting you know in advance,
  50. 2:07I've spent real money on cars, and I
  51. 2:10enjoy them thoroughly. Not because it's
  52. 2:13the mathematically perfect financial
  53. 2:15move, but because it genuinely brings me
  54. 2:19joy. Every time I drive a car I love, I
  55. 2:22feel better than when I am not driving a
  56. 2:25car I love. Even though I know this is
  57. 2:28personal finance sacrilege, including
  58. 2:30but not limited to how I'm about to
  59. 2:32present this. I believe buying a car or
  60. 2:37even leasing a car is a type of
  61. 2:40investment. It is an investment in my
  62. 2:43experience. I drive every day. I travel.
  63. 2:47I take meetings on the road. I take my
  64. 2:50dogs on car rides just for fun to get
  65. 2:53them out of the house. And driving a car
  66. 2:55that is quiet, reliable, and let's be
  67. 2:58honest, a little fun and maybe even
  68. 3:01fast. Well, that improves my quality of
  69. 3:04life in a way that no spreadsheet can
  70. 3:06fully explain. It is also one of the
  71. 3:08only things in life that I've decided to
  72. 3:10spend real money on, so I can usually
  73. 3:13get away with it without entirely
  74. 3:15breaking the bank. So, it should be
  75. 3:16clear, this episode is not about talking
  76. 3:18you out of buying or leasing a new car.
  77. 3:22It's about making sure you buy it or
  78. 3:24lease it the right way with the right
  79. 3:28knowledge, with strategy, not emotion.
  80. 3:32Because if you're going to spend real
  81. 3:34money on something that depreciates, aka
  82. 3:37not an investment, even though I just
  83. 3:38said it was, you owe it to yourself to
  84. 3:41make sure you don't get taken for a ride
  85. 3:44in the process. And before we jump in to
  86. 3:47the 10 rules that I have created to help
  87. 3:49you always get the most bang for your
  88. 3:51buck at the dealership and to understand
  89. 3:53all of their endless jargon and
  90. 3:55nonsense, I have one small favor to ask
  91. 3:58of you today. If you've been enjoying
  92. 4:00the show, it would mean a lot to me if
  93. 4:03you left a quick review. These reviews
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  95. 4:08this endeavor 100% worthwhile. And if
  96. 4:11there's something you're not loving
  97. 4:13about the show or you'd like to see more
  98. 4:15of, please and always feel free to shoot
  99. 4:18me a note directly at
  100. 4:20[email protected].
  101. 4:23I read every message, even if I can't
  102. 4:25reply to all of them, and I internalize
  103. 4:28the feedback quickly. Remember, this
  104. 4:31show is for you. So, let's make it as
  105. 4:34great as we can
  106. 4:35together. Buying a car should feel
  107. 4:38exciting. For most people, it marks a
  108. 4:41fresh start, whether you just got a new
  109. 4:43job, you're growing a family, or you're
  110. 4:45splurging on a well-earned upgrade. But
  111. 4:48what should be a straightforward
  112. 4:50transaction, as all too many of us know,
  113. 4:53has quietly, well, loudly, become one of
  114. 4:56the most financially dangerous moments
  115. 4:58in modern consumer life. According to
  116. 5:01Kelly Blue Book, the average price of a
  117. 5:03new car in the US reached
  118. 5:06$47,000 in 2024. That's not a splurge.
  119. 5:10That's a down payment on a home, a year
  120. 5:12of college, or 10 years of compound
  121. 5:14interest gone in one whimsical
  122. 5:17afternoon. And it's not just the sticker
  123. 5:19shock that gets you. It's the back-end
  124. 5:22financing, the upsells, the
  125. 5:24depreciation, the insurance products,
  126. 5:27and the fine print that is designed to
  127. 5:30make you feel like you're getting a deal
  128. 5:31when you're actually giving one away.
  129. 5:34Today's episode is your defense plan.
  130. 5:37And as always, I have done my best to
  131. 5:39make this episode about the timeless
  132. 5:41principles that will be as true today as
  133. 5:44they will be in 10 years. We'll walk
  134. 5:46through the 10 most common traps and
  135. 5:49slip ups people make when buying or
  136. 5:51leasing a new car and how to avoid every
  137. 5:55single one of them. From financing hacks
  138. 5:58to timing strategies to what never to
  139. 6:01say when you're actually on a dealership
  140. 6:02lot. This is your guide to walking in
  141. 6:05prepared and walking out without
  142. 6:08regrets. Because in a game this
  143. 6:10expensive, the winner isn't the one with
  144. 6:12the nicest car. It's the one who didn't
  145. 6:15get screwed. So, without further ado,
  146. 6:18the 10 rules of car buying or leasing
  147. 6:21according to well, me, Tyler, your money
  148. 6:24guide on the
  149. 6:25side. Rule number one, never go to a
  150. 6:30dealership. Email, email, email. The
  151. 6:35moment you physically step onto a
  152. 6:37dealership lot, the power dynamic shifts
  153. 6:41drastically. They have done this
  154. 6:43thousands of times. You haven't. The
  155. 6:46salesperson is trained to build rapport,
  156. 6:49guide the conversation, and keep you at
  157. 6:51the dealership until you have been
  158. 6:53grounded down to a fine mess of
  159. 6:55impatience and anger until you're so
  160. 6:58ready to leave that you will buy
  161. 7:00anything they offer at any price just to
  162. 7:02get your license and keys back. Trust
  163. 7:04me, I've done that. That's why, without
  164. 7:08a doubt, and if you learn nothing else
  165. 7:10from this episode, the smartest way to
  166. 7:12buy a car starts by not going to a
  167. 7:15dealership, but by emailing several
  168. 7:19dealerships. Why? Because email flips
  169. 7:22the power dynamic. It removes pressure,
  170. 7:25buys you time, and most importantly,
  171. 7:28creates a paper trail. You want
  172. 7:31everything from the start in writing.
  173. 7:34the VIN number, the out the-do price,
  174. 7:38that's including taxes, tags, and fees,
  175. 7:41any applicable rebates, and the exact
  176. 7:45financing terms. This isn't just about
  177. 7:47transparency. It's about leverage. When
  178. 7:50it's in writing, they can't wiggle the
  179. 7:53numbers later once you get to the
  180. 7:55dealership. And here's the real
  181. 7:57advantage. Email lets you shop multiple
  182. 8:00dealers against each other without
  183. 8:02driving all over town or falling for one
  184. 8:05hard cell. Here is the template of the
  185. 8:08message you are going to send to as many
  186. 8:11dealers as you'd like. Hello, I'm
  187. 8:14comparing pricing across local
  188. 8:17dealerships for insert the exact make
  189. 8:20and model you'd like. If you can beat
  190. 8:23this price or offer better terms, please
  191. 8:25let me know and I will look forward to
  192. 8:27working with you. Dealers will respond
  193. 8:31to this type of message. And their
  194. 8:33response will most likely always be,
  195. 8:36"Well, hello. We would love to share our
  196. 8:38prices with you and we think you will be
  197. 8:40really happy with them. When can you
  198. 8:42come in to set up a meeting and
  199. 8:44discuss?" Nope. email back and make it
  200. 8:48clear that you're not coming in and this
  201. 8:50is a transaction that will begin and end
  202. 8:54via email and via paper trail. And if
  203. 8:57they tell you they don't quote over
  204. 8:59email, A, that's not true. B, that's not
  205. 9:03your dealership. Oh yeah, and C, they
  206. 9:05lost your business. Trust me, I bought
  207. 9:07my last three cars by doing this. And
  208. 9:10though many dealerships pretend they
  209. 9:11won't do this over email, yes, they will
  210. 9:14and the good ones do. Those are the ones
  211. 9:17that got my business and hence
  212. 9:19eliminated all negotiation nonsense when
  213. 9:21I went to get the car. The competition
  214. 9:25for your business alone gives you the
  215. 9:27upper hand. You're no longer the lone
  216. 9:29buyer walking into their territory. You
  217. 9:32are now the informed customer, playing
  218. 9:34them against one another from a position
  219. 9:36of strength and from a position of
  220. 9:38emotional detachment, which will always
  221. 9:41be a good thing when we're making
  222. 9:43financial
  223. 9:44decisions. Rule number two, never talk
  224. 9:49monthly payments. This is the oldest
  225. 9:52trick in the dealership playbook. Get
  226. 9:54you and keep you focused on the monthly
  227. 9:57payment and they control the rest of the
  228. 10:00math. As I've said in some of my content
  229. 10:02before, if you were to give me 2 minutes
  230. 10:04and a financial calculator, I'll have
  231. 10:07you out the door paying $1 a month for
  232. 10:09whatever car you want, and I'll still
  233. 10:13find a way to win because the monthly
  234. 10:15payment means nothing. And that's too
  235. 10:18bad because most of us don't walk into a
  236. 10:20dealership saying, "I want to pay
  237. 10:23$37,800 for that car." We walk in
  238. 10:26saying, "I can afford $600 a month." And
  239. 10:30that's exactly what we end up sharing
  240. 10:32with the salesman first. And it's
  241. 10:34exactly how we end up
  242. 10:36overpaying. According to the Consumer
  243. 10:38Financial Protection Bureau, dealerships
  244. 10:41frequently manipulate loan structures to
  245. 10:43lower the monthly payment while
  246. 10:44inflating the overall cost through
  247. 10:46extended loan terms, hidden fees, or
  248. 10:50padded interest rates. Additionally,
  249. 10:52dealerships can and do lower the monthly
  250. 10:55payment by asking for a higher down
  251. 10:57payment, offering you less for your
  252. 10:59tradein or by asking for a higher
  253. 11:02residual payment at the end of the lease
  254. 11:04term. Let's take a quick look at the
  255. 11:06math. A $40,000 car at 4.9% over 60
  256. 11:12months costs you about 752 bucks a
  257. 11:16month, and you'll end up paying around
  258. 11:18$45,000 over the life of the loan. But
  259. 11:21that same car at
  260. 11:23$650 a month might sound like a deal
  261. 11:27until you realize the dealer has
  262. 11:29stretched it to $84 months at a higher
  263. 11:32rate like
  264. 11:34$7.9% and now you're paying over
  265. 11:38$54,600. That's about $9,000 in
  266. 11:41additional cost all for a lower monthly
  267. 11:44payment. And that's literally just
  268. 11:47scratching the surface of ways to get
  269. 11:48the monthly down. This is why you will
  270. 11:52always hear car dealers with the
  271. 11:55following question. What are you looking
  272. 11:58or able to spend a month? The second you
  273. 12:01say that number, they win, you lose. And
  274. 12:04dealers love this model. The longer the
  275. 12:07term, the more interest they earn and
  276. 12:10the easier it is to get you to say yes.
  277. 12:12But you're not buying a payment plan.
  278. 12:15you're buying a car. Remember, a payment
  279. 12:18plan is just a delivery method. Your job
  280. 12:21is to make sure the product itself isn't
  281. 12:24overpriced. So, keep your eyes on the
  282. 12:26total number, not the monthly illusion.
  283. 12:30Rule number three, just say no once
  284. 12:35you're in the finance room. So, you
  285. 12:38think the negotiation is over once you
  286. 12:41agree on the out the-do price. Well, it
  287. 12:44isn't. It just moves into a different
  288. 12:46room. One with lower lighting, fewer
  289. 12:50windows, and a job title you didn't
  290. 12:53expect. F and I, or finance and
  291. 12:57insurance. And hint, there's a reason
  292. 13:00that the finance folks at dealerships
  293. 13:02are often paid more than anybody else.
  294. 13:05This is where dealerships make their
  295. 13:07real money. Not off the car, but off of
  296. 13:11you and your fear. Once your guard is
  297. 13:15down and you believe the negotiation is
  298. 13:18over. According to the National
  299. 13:20Automobile Dealers Association, FNI
  300. 13:22products now account for over 25% of
  301. 13:25total dealership gross profits. That's
  302. 13:28not a side hustle. That's their business
  303. 13:31model. And you're getting taken. Here's
  304. 13:33how it plays out. You're tired, you
  305. 13:36know, because you made the mistake of
  306. 13:37going to the dealership, and now you've
  307. 13:39been there for 6 and 1/2 hours. You've
  308. 13:41test-driven the car, negotiated the
  309. 13:43price, maybe even celebrated a bit
  310. 13:45because you finally locked in a number.
  311. 13:48Then the finance manager starts sliding
  312. 13:50papers with small text across the desk.
  313. 13:52Extended warranties, gap insurance,
  314. 13:56paint protection plans, theft
  315. 13:59deterrence, key replacements, vin
  316. 14:01etching, all sold with urgency and fear
  317. 14:05tactics. If you think I'm kidding, just
  318. 14:07say no immediately and see how quickly
  319. 14:10they try to convince you that you're
  320. 14:12making the biggest financial mistake of
  321. 14:14your life and are going to total your
  322. 14:15brand new car on the way out of the lot.
  323. 14:18This has happened to me multiple times.
  324. 14:21Suddenly, your $40,000 car is $44,000
  325. 14:24and climbing. You've walked into a
  326. 14:27coffee shop, bought a $4 drink, and left
  327. 14:29with a
  328. 14:30$1,200 mug. And note, if you truly want
  329. 14:34gap insurance, which is the insurance
  330. 14:36that covers the difference between what
  331. 14:38you owe and what your car is worth if
  332. 14:41totaled, which yes, can be a decentsiz
  333. 14:44gap due to the immediate depreciation of
  334. 14:46the vehicle when you drive off that lot.
  335. 14:49Check with your autoinsurer first.
  336. 14:52Geico, Progressive, State Farm, those
  337. 14:55companies will often offer gap insurance
  338. 14:58for a fraction of what the dealer will
  339. 15:00charge. But they know most people don't
  340. 15:02go in that prepared. The rule here is
  341. 15:05simple. If you didn't plan to buy it
  342. 15:06before you walked in, you don't need to
  343. 15:09buy it now. Say no clearly and
  344. 15:12repeatedly. And you're not being rude,
  345. 15:14even though they will make you think
  346. 15:16that you are. You're being smart. The
  347. 15:18FNI office isn't where you protect your
  348. 15:21car, it's where you need to learn to
  349. 15:23protect your
  350. 15:24wallet. Rule number four, buy a car that
  351. 15:29is already on the lot. Here's a little
  352. 15:32known truth about how dealerships
  353. 15:34actually work. And most people do not
  354. 15:36know this. Every car sitting on their
  355. 15:40lot is not an asset. It's a liability to
  356. 15:44the dealership. Because most dealers
  357. 15:46don't actually own their inventory. They
  358. 15:49finance it through what's called a floor
  359. 15:52plan loan, which acrus interest monthly
  360. 15:55that they have to pay so long as the
  361. 15:58cars sit on their lot. And just like you
  362. 16:01don't want to pay interest on your
  363. 16:02loans, neither do they. According to
  364. 16:05Automotive News and Cox Automotive,
  365. 16:08dealers typically pay between 1 and 2%
  366. 16:11in monthly interest on unsold vehicles.
  367. 16:14That means a $40,000 car could be
  368. 16:16costing them $4 to $800 a month just to
  369. 16:20let it sit. Think about that. When they
  370. 16:23say they just can't find a way to reduce
  371. 16:25the car's price by 500 bucks, uh, yes.
  372. 16:28Yes, they can. And at the right time,
  373. 16:30yes. Yes, they will. That ticking clock
  374. 16:33is your negotiating leverage. This is
  375. 16:36the same as buying a house that's been
  376. 16:38listed for months. The dealership is not
  377. 16:41thinking about the same profit margin
  378. 16:43anymore. They're thinking about how do
  379. 16:45we stop the bleeding. And if that car is
  380. 16:48already loaded with options or painted a
  381. 16:50less popular color, even better. You're
  382. 16:53their chance to move stale and pricey
  383. 16:55inventory. So, you can start by asking
  384. 16:58the salesperson directly, what's been on
  385. 17:01your lot the longest, which VINs have
  386. 17:04the most aging days, and do you have any
  387. 17:07floor plan inventory coming up on its
  388. 17:1090day deadline? Again, if they're good
  389. 17:13folks wanting to do good business, and
  390. 17:15many of them are, they'll tell you
  391. 17:17because they want to move that
  392. 17:18inventory. This isn't just about price,
  393. 17:20it's about motivation. A freshly arrived
  394. 17:23customordered car has no urgency
  395. 17:25attached, but one that's been racking up
  396. 17:28carrying costs for weeks, that's a deal
  397. 17:30waiting to happen. Rule number five,
  398. 17:34bring your own financing. But be
  399. 17:37strategic about this one. Before you
  400. 17:39step into a dealership, and again, after
  401. 17:42you've locked in a price via email, get
  402. 17:45preapproved for an auto loan. It's not
  403. 17:47just about locking in a good rate. It's
  404. 17:49about walking into the dealership with
  405. 17:52leverage. Without preapproval, you're
  406. 17:54flying blind. Whereas with one, you've
  407. 17:57set a benchmark and you've done what we
  408. 18:00need to continue to do by changing the
  409. 18:02power dynamic. You could start by trying
  410. 18:05your local credit union or a reputable
  411. 18:07online lender. According to bank rates
  412. 18:10auto loan rate tables 2024 credit unions
  413. 18:13consistently offer interest rates that
  414. 18:16could be 1 to two percentage points
  415. 18:18lower than national banks and dealer
  416. 18:20arranged financing. And here's the quick
  417. 18:23math for you to consider. On a $40,000
  418. 18:25loan, the difference between 5 12% and
  419. 18:287% over 5 years could mean saving 1,200
  420. 18:31bucks in just interest. That's just for
  421. 18:34showing up with your own financing. But
  422. 18:36here's one interesting and nuanced
  423. 18:39twist. Once you have that preapproval in
  424. 18:42hand, let the dealer try to beat it. Why
  425. 18:44not? It's not a trap, it's a tactic.
  426. 18:47Dealers have access to very captive
  427. 18:50lenders like Honda Financial or Toyota
  428. 18:53Financial. And sometimes they're given
  429. 18:55incentive money from the manufacturer to
  430. 18:58secure financing inhouse. I once had a
  431. 19:01dealer ask me straight up if they could
  432. 19:04beat my 3 and 12% financing, would I
  433. 19:07finance with them? I said, "Yeah, of
  434. 19:09course." And they offered 2.9%. And off
  435. 19:12I went with my new Subaru WRX when I was
  436. 19:14going through my I wish I was 16 again
  437. 19:16phase. I told you I love cars. I just
  438. 19:20felt a little odd in that one at 27
  439. 19:22years old. If the dealer knows they have
  440. 19:24to beat your preapproval to earn your
  441. 19:26business, they might lower the rate,
  442. 19:28knock money off the car, or throw in at
  443. 19:31least a couple extras just to win the
  444. 19:33deal. You've taken what was once their
  445. 19:36leverage and you've turned it into your
  446. 19:38own. One key here is to separate the car
  447. 19:42price from the financing conversation.
  448. 19:45Lock down the out the-do price first,
  449. 19:48then talk about how you're going to pay.
  450. 19:51Whether you go with your preapproval or
  451. 19:53the dealer's offer, you win either way
  452. 19:56because you controlled the terms. Rule
  453. 19:59number six, do the depreciation math.
  454. 20:04Now, here's where we get into some more
  455. 20:06of the emotional components behind
  456. 20:08buying a vehicle. Most people don't buy
  457. 20:10a car. They buy a feeling. that fresh
  458. 20:13offthe- smell, the untouched seats, the
  459. 20:17upgraded trim package. Trust me, I get
  460. 20:20it because I do it every 3 years. And
  461. 20:22while that's fine in theory, it comes at
  462. 20:25a steep, often invisible cost,
  463. 20:29depreciation. Remember, even though I'm
  464. 20:32defining the buying or leasing of a car
  465. 20:34as an investment in experience, it is
  466. 20:36not, by traditional financial language,
  467. 20:40in investment because it depreciates
  468. 20:42immensely the second you drive off the
  469. 20:44lot. Sometimes as much as 20% in the
  470. 20:47first year and up to 60% in the first 5
  471. 20:51years. So, what does that mean in real
  472. 20:53numbers? A $50,000 SUV might be worth
  473. 20:56just 20,000 bucks 5 years later, even if
  474. 20:59you've taken great care of it. That's
  475. 21:01$30,000 in evaporated asset value. And
  476. 21:05most buyers never see it coming. They're
  477. 21:07too focused on the monthly payment, the
  478. 21:10color, or whether Apple CarPlay comes
  479. 21:12standard. So, just ask yourself this.
  480. 21:15Would you invest
  481. 21:16$50,000 into something guaranteed to be
  482. 21:20worth $20,000 in 5 years? and if so,
  483. 21:24what would make it worth it? Now, this
  484. 21:27also doesn't mean new cars are always a
  485. 21:29bad deal. Sometimes they make a lot of
  486. 21:32sense for people. You get a full factory
  487. 21:34warranty, predictable reliability, and
  488. 21:37immediate availability of whatever
  489. 21:39vehicle you might want, especially in
  490. 21:41tight supply years. If those things
  491. 21:43matter to you, great. Spending money
  492. 21:47anytime and always is about values, not
  493. 21:51dollars. Find what you value, name what
  494. 21:54you value, spend the money accordingly,
  495. 21:56or you're going to die with it. So, one
  496. 21:58strategy is you could look for nearly
  497. 22:00new models, cars that are 1 or 2 years
  498. 22:02old with low mileage and clean history.
  499. 22:05That way, someone else has taken the
  500. 22:08biggest appreciation hit, and you still
  501. 22:11get many of the benefits of a relatively
  502. 22:13new car. That's why most finance experts
  503. 22:15will tell you that the sweet spot is a
  504. 22:18three-year-old car that still runs well
  505. 22:20and has low
  506. 22:21mileage. Rule number seven, this is a
  507. 22:25big one. Separate deals always. Because
  508. 22:30here's one of the biggest mistakes
  509. 22:31buyers make. Walking into a dealership
  510. 22:35and saying proudly, "I'm buying a new
  511. 22:38car. I'm trading in my old one and I
  512. 22:41need financing." Well, congratulations.
  513. 22:44You've just handed them control of three
  514. 22:47profit centers at once. The smarter
  515. 22:50move, separate every deal completely.
  516. 22:54We've already been over the importance
  517. 22:56of starting first and always from
  518. 22:58negotiating the out the-do price of the
  519. 23:01new car. That's the full amount,
  520. 23:03including taxes, tags, and fees. And
  521. 23:06again, we do that via email. We get it
  522. 23:09in writing and we lock it in. Now, even
  523. 23:12via email, do not do not do not mention
  524. 23:19you have a trade-in. Why? Because just
  525. 23:22as we saw with ways they can screw you
  526. 23:24by focusing on monthly payments, if they
  527. 23:27know you're trading in, they can and
  528. 23:29often do inflate the value of your car
  529. 23:33to make you feel good and proud while
  530. 23:36quietly patting the price of the one
  531. 23:38you're buying. or worse, they'll lowball
  532. 23:41your trade completely and act like they
  533. 23:43gave you a deal elsewhere. It's
  534. 23:46literally shell game math and you lose
  535. 23:50every single time. So, we want to start
  536. 23:52by focusing on one shell at a time. Once
  537. 23:56you have the OTD price locked in, then
  538. 24:00go get your financing quote and then
  539. 24:03finally, if you want, bring up the
  540. 24:05tradein. This isn't some dink move on
  541. 24:07your part. It's as crucial as PEMDOS was
  542. 24:10to your order of operations in high
  543. 24:12school or middle school math. I don't
  544. 24:15know how smart you are. Whenever you
  545. 24:16PEMD dosed last. And what most people
  546. 24:19miss is you don't have to sell your used
  547. 24:22car to the dealership. The dealership
  548. 24:25knows that most people do prefer the
  549. 24:27ease of offloading the car immediately
  550. 24:30so that someone else has to deal with it
  551. 24:32and they capitalize on that. Often,
  552. 24:35however, you'll get a much better deal
  553. 24:37selling privately or through a platform
  554. 24:39like CarMax or Carvana. Even if you do
  555. 24:42trade it into the dealer, coming in late
  556. 24:45with that information gives you an edge.
  557. 24:48It's no longer part of the main
  558. 24:50negotiation. It's an afterthought you
  559. 24:52can use to your advantage. And if you
  560. 24:54ever want to see how true this is, just
  561. 24:56realize how few dealerships will
  562. 24:58actually purchase your used car after
  563. 25:01you've already locked in an out the door
  564. 25:02price. they no longer have as much of an
  565. 25:04incentive to do so. Remember,
  566. 25:06dealerships make money by bundling many
  567. 25:09deals together. You protect yourself by
  568. 25:12breaking them
  569. 25:14apart. Rule number eight, or should I
  570. 25:17say myth on this one. The myth is that
  571. 25:22leasing is the worst thing you could
  572. 25:23ever do with your money. I'm going to
  573. 25:25show you why leasing can be fine so long
  574. 25:28as you speak the language. Leasing gets
  575. 25:31a bad rap in personal finance circles
  576. 25:33and often for good reason. It's easy to
  577. 25:36get into, harder to understand, and
  578. 25:39downright punishing if you break the
  579. 25:41rules. But if you're the right kind of
  580. 25:43driver and you understand the math,
  581. 25:45leasing can actually be a smart
  582. 25:48financial move. Here's when leasing
  583. 25:51makes sense. You actually drive fewer
  584. 25:54than 12,000 m per year. You like driving
  585. 25:57a new car every 2 to 3 years. That's me
  586. 26:01and I prefer the nocost exchange at the
  587. 26:03end of the term versus the hassle of
  588. 26:05buying and selling a car every few
  589. 26:07years. Or you're using the car for
  590. 26:09business and can write off the lease on
  591. 26:11your taxes. In these cases, leasing can
  592. 26:15give you predictable costs, full
  593. 26:17warranty coverage, and no long-term
  594. 26:19ownership headaches. But you need to
  595. 26:22speak the language. And here are three
  596. 26:24terms that you need to know, and most
  597. 26:26people don't. One, the capitalized cost.
  598. 26:29It's the sale price of the car. They
  599. 26:31just call it something different. You
  600. 26:33can negotiate this just like a purchase,
  601. 26:36and you should. Number two, the residual
  602. 26:40value. This is big for leasing. This is
  603. 26:42what the car is expected to be worth at
  604. 26:45the lease end. It's what I would pay if
  605. 26:47I wanted to buy it at the end of the
  606. 26:49lease. The higher the value is, usually
  607. 26:52the lower your lease payment is. And
  608. 26:55number three, and perhaps the most
  609. 26:57important to me that really most people
  610. 26:58don't understand, money factor. This is
  611. 27:02where they get most people. Why on earth
  612. 27:04do they use language like this? I'd like
  613. 27:06to say I don't know, but I do know
  614. 27:08because it's the same in finance to
  615. 27:10confuse you into making costly mistakes.
  616. 27:14The money factor is the leases interest
  617. 27:17rate expressed in pure gibberish. to
  618. 27:21convert it to an APR, you multiply it by
  619. 27:242400. So, if you're staring at a money
  620. 27:26factor of
  621. 27:280.0025, that's a 6% APR. Leasing, as I
  622. 27:32noted, isn't always a bad deal. In a
  623. 27:35high interest rate environment, like
  624. 27:37we've seen post 2022, lease deals can be
  625. 27:40artificially sweetened by manufacturers.
  626. 27:43Automakers even often subsidize leases
  627. 27:45through their captive finance arms like
  628. 27:47Toyota Financial, Ford Credit, offering
  629. 27:50below market money factors or inflated
  630. 27:54residual values. That means you can pay
  631. 27:57less monthly because they're eating part
  632. 27:59of the cost to move inventory. In
  633. 28:02contrast, loan rates from banks or
  634. 28:03credit unions might sit at 6 to 9% APR,
  635. 28:06making traditional financing more
  636. 28:08expensive. And if you're thinking of
  637. 28:10paying cash, that's fine. But remember,
  638. 28:13if the lease is already heavily
  639. 28:14subsidized, it might actually be cheaper
  640. 28:17to lease and invest the difference.
  641. 28:19Especially if your cash is earning 5%
  642. 28:21plus in a high yield savings account or
  643. 28:23you have a long time horizon and you're
  644. 28:25comfortable investing in the markets.
  645. 28:27Leasing isn't always a bad deal. It just
  646. 28:29requires real math. You need to compare
  647. 28:32the total cost of leasing versus the
  648. 28:34total cost of ownership. And I hope the
  649. 28:36above terms have given you a sense of
  650. 28:37how you can do that. Rule number nine,
  651. 28:41back to the emotional component. Do not
  652. 28:45do not do not buy a car when you need a
  653. 28:48car. I know that sounds very
  654. 28:50counterintuitive. The dealership, even
  655. 28:53via email, they can smell you coming if
  656. 28:57you are in the market for a certain car
  657. 28:59and only that car and you want it right
  658. 29:02now. The moment you let that emotion
  659. 29:05take control, you've lost. Urgency
  660. 29:08becomes your enemy and the dealer's best
  661. 29:10friend. The more desperate you are, the
  662. 29:13less they will negotiate. You'll accept
  663. 29:15a higher price, a worse interest rate
  664. 29:17just to get the vehicle you want. Again,
  665. 29:21it's the same in home buying. There's a
  666. 29:23reason if you work with a buyer's agent
  667. 29:25that when you go into a home showing,
  668. 29:27they tell you to shut your mouth. That
  669. 29:30is why smart car and home buyers plan
  670. 29:33months in advance. You remove the
  671. 29:36emotion. I have emails into several
  672. 29:39dealers right now. I told you I love
  673. 29:42cars. Asking them to let me know when
  674. 29:44they can hit a certain price on a
  675. 29:46certain vehicle that I want. I don't get
  676. 29:48a lot of bites and that's okay because I
  677. 29:51don't need a car right now as I still
  678. 29:52have a year left on my current lease.
  679. 29:55But if I start now, I cast a wider net
  680. 29:58and who knows when one dealership might
  681. 30:00want to move that one vehicle at a
  682. 30:02certain time. I will outweight them and
  683. 30:05I'll do it from the comfort of my own
  684. 30:07home. Also, keep in mind the car you
  685. 30:09want will always come back around. Don't
  686. 30:12ever let them tell you this is a limited
  687. 30:14offer and you'll never see this model
  688. 30:15again. New models roll in, incentives
  689. 30:18change, leases get returned. You need to
  690. 30:21be able to walk away if the deal is not
  691. 30:24right for you. And we finally made it to
  692. 30:27rule number 10. don't buy until they
  693. 30:32need to sell. We've already touched on
  694. 30:35the fact that cars on the lot cost the
  695. 30:37dealership money via interest. And you
  696. 30:40already know you shouldn't buy a car
  697. 30:42when you need one. But here's the second
  698. 30:44half of that equation. Wait until they
  699. 30:48need the sale. Dealerships don't just
  700. 30:50make money on cars. They make money on
  701. 30:53hitting certain targets. This isn't a
  702. 30:56myth. They do have monthly quotas. They
  703. 30:59do have quarterly incentives. They even
  704. 31:02have year-end manufacturer bonuses. And
  705. 31:05when they're behind on those targets,
  706. 31:07the pressure is on from corporate. And
  707. 31:09that's when real deals can actually
  708. 31:11appear. According to JD P's dealer
  709. 31:14incentive calendar 2023, the best days
  710. 31:16to buy a car are the following. The last
  711. 31:19three days of the month, the final week
  712. 31:22of the year. major holiday weekends like
  713. 31:26Memorial Day, Labor Day, Fourth of July.
  714. 31:29And missing those targets doesn't just
  715. 31:31mean less revenue for dealers. It can
  716. 31:34mean forfeiting tens of thousands in
  717. 31:36back-end bonuses. And if selling you a
  718. 31:39car at a break even price helps them hit
  719. 31:42their number, they will do it. Again,
  720. 31:44I've done this and it works. The key is
  721. 31:48don't be in a hurry. Wait until they're
  722. 31:51in a hurry. This is when you want to
  723. 31:53show up, but again, only after doing the
  724. 31:57homework. Start your email negotiation
  725. 31:59early. Gather quotes, confirm
  726. 32:02availability, then walk in at the end of
  727. 32:04the cycle with your preapproval ready
  728. 32:06and your trade-in kept to yourself.
  729. 32:09Here's a quick closing thought for you.
  730. 32:12Buying a car is not just a consumer
  731. 32:14choice. It's a high lever financial
  732. 32:17decision that echoes through your
  733. 32:19budget, your net worth, and your mental
  734. 32:21bandwidth for years. The average car
  735. 32:24loan, wait for this, now stretches
  736. 32:26beyond 70 months. And for many
  737. 32:29household, it's their second largest
  738. 32:31expense after housing. So, this isn't
  739. 32:33just about driving. It's about designing
  740. 32:36the next 5 years of your financial life.
  741. 32:39And unfortunately, for the most part,
  742. 32:42car dealers have maintained the power in
  743. 32:44this relationship because most of us
  744. 32:47have completely normalized always and
  745. 32:50forever having a car payment. So, let's
  746. 32:53commit to slowing down, playing the long
  747. 32:56game, removing the emotions, and making
  748. 32:59sure we learn the language. Huh, that
  749. 33:02sounds a lot like investing in finance,
  750. 33:04too. Again, I will never tell you not to
  751. 33:07buy a brand new car, but I will always
  752. 33:10encourage you to spend on what matters
  753. 33:12most to you and do it in a way where you
  754. 33:14are from start to finish in full control
  755. 33:19of your transactions and ultimately your
  756. 33:23wealth. Thanks for tuning in to your
  757. 33:25money guide on the side. If you enjoyed
  758. 33:27today's episode, be sure to visit my
  759. 33:29website at tylergardner.com for even
  760. 33:32more helpful resources and insights. And
  761. 33:34if you are interested in receiving some
  762. 33:36quick and actionable guidance each week,
  763. 33:38don't forget to sign up for my weekly
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  768. 33:48link on my website, tylergardner.com, or
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  770. 33:53official. Until next time, I'm Tyler
  771. 33:56Gardner, your money guide on the side.
  772. 33:58And I truly hope this episode got you
  773. 34:00one step closer to where you need to be.

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